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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling totally | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
ripped off and you've contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies that you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
If I walk in somewhere and they treat me badly, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
then I walk and I will never go in again. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
You've paid for a service and you expect it to be | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
the service that you've paid for. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
And when you've lost out and no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
As a customer you've got to be more savvy in terms of what you're | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
buying, and make sure it's something you want or need | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
and not something that they're trying to trick you into getting. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
we're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
the series that sets out to make sure that whatever you're | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
spending your money on, you are spending it wisely. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
And that's not always easy to do in a world where technology is evolving so fast | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
it can be hard to keep up with both the opportunities and the dangers. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
You are so right there, Julia, because so many of us now spend | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
such a large part of our everyday lives on the internet that we don't | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
always stop to question exactly what it is we're going to find there. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
We might jump into what seems like an opportunity without fully | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
understanding exactly how it works or, even worse, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
we make the mistake of handing over our personal details to | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
someone that we really should have kept them well away from. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
I must say, not a position you want to be in. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
But it is safe to say that we're not always as internet savvy | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
as we might like to think we are, certainly in my case. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
And as you'll see from a test we've done, that could mean | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
putting your own security and private information at risk. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
So today, we're going to be doing our very best to help you | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
through some of the thorny situations that you can get yourself | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
into online, as well as visiting a part of the internet that's | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
the absolute last place that you want any of your details | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
to end up on. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Coming up, the secrets of the darkest parts of the web | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
where criminal gangs have found ways to take full advantage | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
of your personal information. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
So, not only is it easier than robbing a bank, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
you end up with more money than if you'd robbed a bank? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
If you do this well, you can make hundreds of millions. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
And the shopping site that promises bargains - and fun. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
So why do so many of you say you've ended up with neither? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
You start then to really get into bid, bid, bid. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:42 | |
I feel like I've been mugged by the invisible man. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
An increasing number of the stories that we investigate here | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
at Rip-Off Britain involve criminals who are making fraudulent use | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
of your personal details, which of course has led many of you to | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
wonder exactly how it is they get that information in the first place. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
Well, as we're about to find out, there is | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
a murky side to the internet where anything can be traded and where | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
right now, this very second, someone could be putting together | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
all of your personal information and for the right price, selling it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
If you've ever felt like you're drowning in all those passwords | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
that you need to remember when you're online, then you're not alone. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
New research confirms that now we all have so many different | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
accounts for shops, banks or simply logging onto your e-mails, that we | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
often forget almost half of the passwords that we've set up for them. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Maybe that's why so many of us still often stick to the same one, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
or something very similar. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
But if that makes OUR lives easier, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
it does exactly the same for the fraudsters, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
making it much simpler for THEM to intercept our details | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and use them in identity fraud, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
a crime which is very much on the rise. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
It doesn't matter how meticulous you are in trying to protect | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
all your personal data, if a criminal is determined enough, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
they will find it and then use that information against you | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
and rip you off. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Cases of identity fraud have increased by a third | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
in the last year. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
But that doesn't mean that we're all getting the message | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
when it comes to online security. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Do you have the same password for everything? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I've got to admit, yes. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
-And Pin number! -You realise how dangerous that is? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-BOTH: Yes. We do. -But if they don't know, it's OK. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
-But they're going to find it, that's the thing. -Are they? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-Do you guys use the internet a lot for buying stuff? -Yes. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Yeah, all the time. -You do? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
So how do you protect your Pin numbers and your passwords? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
I'm quite high security with my cards. I have different savings. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
So when I buy something, I transfer it over to another account. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
If I told you that it was possible for hackers to get your e-mail, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
account number, your passwords, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
your Pin numbers, your credit card numbers, on the web, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and sell that information to crooks who can then use it to | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
access your accounts, your money, what would you say? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
-They'd be very disappointed. -LAUGHING: -Why's that? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Because I ain't got nothing in there. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
ANGELA LAUGHS | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
Except they can steal your identity and use that | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
to put you in debt. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Oh, that would be great if they could steal my identity, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
the taxman would get hold of them instead of me! | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
'If only it were that simple! | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
'But, in fact, the crooks behind identity theft | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
'can buy and sell your information in a place where it's almost | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
'impossible for them to be found. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
'Usually known as the "dark web", | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
'it's one of the most sinister parts of the internet | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
'and it doesn't show up on search engines. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
'So crimes are committed and information traded | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
'without the people behind it all being easily traced. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
'So I've come to find out more about it from | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
'identity theft expert Darren Innes. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
'He runs a website called HasMyIdentityBeenStolen.com | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
'where you can check if your personal details | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
'are amongst those that have been stolen | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
'and then put on sale on the dark web.' | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Darren, exactly what is the dark web? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
It sounds really sinister. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
I think the best way to explain the dark web | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
is if you imagine the internet as an iceberg. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Traditionally we see about 4% of the internet through normal | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
search engines - so Google, Safari etc. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
96% of the internet is hidden by password-protected websites. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
In that 96% there's a belief there's a lot of criminality happening. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
What exactly are the criminals doing down there in that bit of the iceberg? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
Um, well, anything. There are sites where you can go on and buy drugs | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
and have them delivered. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
You can even, they believe, find a hit man, if you want one, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
on the dark web. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
What we're concerned about is the amount of identities | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
that are up for sale on the dark web. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
So they're getting this information... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Once they've got it, what are they doing with it? Are they using it themselves? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Um, they sell it between gangs. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
So one gang may find your e-mail and password | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
and then they'll sell it to another organisation, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
who'll then use it to start doing things like phishing e-mails | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
where they try to get data off you, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
or they'll use researchers to find things like your date of birth, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
where you live, that kind of information. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
They build that up over a period of time. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
That process can take up to two years. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
But in that time they'll build a complete financial | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-and personal profile of you... -Yeah. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
..accessing exactly what kind of information? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Um, credit card numbers... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Um, your date of birth, electoral roll, secret answers. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
So a common one is your mother's maiden name. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
'Darren's company estimates that it has over 600 million | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
'records in their database | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
'and they're adding a whopping 300,000 more every day.' | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
Presumably the criminals are going to be always one step ahead | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
of the law enforcement agencies? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Well, bizarrely they generally are. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
The faster we come up with a way of preventing something, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
they've already thought of the next step. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
'Darren then showed me a site on the dark web | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
'where criminals are making use of the data that they've stolen. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
'I'm looking at what first appears to be a normal shopping site | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
'but I soon realise that what's on sale here | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
'isn't what you'd find at the supermarket.' | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
What you are looking at here is a typical carding site. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
What I mean by a carding site is a site that is selling credit | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
card data from around the world. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
It just looks like any normal website that you'd go on | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and buy goods and services. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
And they're cheap! | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
They're selling a credit card for £2.50! | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
This is extraordinary. You've got every country in the world here. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Yeah, I know. It truly is shocking. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
The thing that I found most amazing when I started looking at this | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
was that if you buy the data and it doesn't work within a couple | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
of hours, the criminal will give you the money back | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
for trying to use that credit card. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
It is a very organised business. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-So it's honour among thieves? -Absolutely. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
ANGELA GASPS | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
It is shocking. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
'When major criminals have finished using stolen credit card details | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
'sites like this one trade the information on | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
'so that minor criminals can use it to buy low-cost items, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
'usually online. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
'Darren's used the information from such sites to compile | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
'a database of people whose e-mail addresses have been compromised. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
'And while his is just one of the services where you | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
'can buy solutions to keep your details safe, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
'you can also check for free if your details are on Darren's system | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
'and currently doing the rounds of the dark web. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
'So, obviously, I was keen to know if my details were at risk.' | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It's going to have sent notification to your e-mail account, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
so only you can see this data. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
You have to own that e-mail account for it to tell you. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
What a criminal will do often is take over your e-mail account, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
or try to. We need to keep it very, very secure. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
It'll send a notification to your e-mail address | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
and then it will tell you what data has been up for sale - if any. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
So you've got to be careful with what you put on this | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
because people might hack into this and pass it on? | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Yeah, we have to be very, very careful. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
The last thing we want to do is to aid the criminal | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
in the abuse that they take. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
'So, for me, it was good news.' | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
As you can see, it's come up now and what it's saying is | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
that there is no data on you on the internet at the moment. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Phew! That's a relief, I can tell you. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
But I'm going to go home and change all my passwords! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
Yes, it's a good idea. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
'Well, at least, criminal gangs don't seem to have got at my details | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
'but, unfortunately, the same can't be said for many others. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
'A few simple actions can help to protect your online security, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
'notably keeping your passwords safe and changing them regularly. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
'But nothing is foolproof and, later in the programme, we are | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
'going to be unpicking some of the crimes that use information | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
'from the dark web and trying to track down who's behind them.' | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Next an online shopping site that's already had its knuckles | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
rapped by the authorities but, even so, it's still prompting | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
a number of complaints to our inbox on the programme. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
That's despite it being a place that not only promises | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
that you'll "bag a bargain," | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
but that the whole process is what they describe as "fun shopping". | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
I'm afraid, for some of you, it may have started out that way | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
but fun is not at all how things have ended up. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
'50% off... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
'Last chance to buy... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
'Sale of the century. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
'Well, there can't be many of us who don't love to bag a bargain. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
'These days it isn't necessarily the high street where we | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
'go to find the best deals. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
'Many shoppers head straight online | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
'and a good chunk of those will log on to one of the online | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
'auction sites where the thrill of searching out the best price is | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
'combined with the excitement of trying to beat other people to get it. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
'Best known, of course, these days is eBay, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
'which last year had a staggering 157 million users worldwide. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
'But plenty of other companies have muscled in on the same territory. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
'And, with one of them, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
'not everybody ended up with quite what they bargained for. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
'Paul Taylor from Northamptonshire is no stranger | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
'to how auction sites usually work. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
'So he was delighted when he spotted one that seemed the perfect | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
'place to look for a new phone for his son.' | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
I thought a really nice thing to do was to get him an upgrade to | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
his existing phone and get him the latest smartphone that's available. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Now I'm used to bidding sites and auction sites. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
I've been doing it for several years myself | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
so when I saw the advert I thought, "Wow, this is great." | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
'The advert Paul had seen was from a company called MadBid, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
'which describes itself as the number one discount auction website. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
-Delivery. -Perfect! | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
'It advertises high-end electrical goods like computers, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
'mobile phones and TVs but at real rock-bottom prices. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
'In fact, the ad suggested savings of up to 80% off | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
'what you pay on the high street. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
'So Paul went to the MadBid site to find out what he had to do next.' | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
I opened the laptop, logged on to the MadBid site | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
and started following the instructions. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
'Ah, but MadBid doesn't work in quite the same | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
'way as the auction sites which Paul had used before. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
'On most of them, bids are free and you only pay the price of an item | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
'if you win it. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
'On MadBid, you have to pay to place each bid | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
'and, what's more, each bid is on a timer. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
'If the timer runs out and you're the last bidder, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
'the item is yours for the closing price. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
'If somebody else then places a bid, well, the clock starts again. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
'The timer just keeps on ticking until everybody bows out. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
'So, in order to win the item, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
'you need to be prepared to pay to bid until the timer finally stops. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
'It may sound complicated but MadBid calls it "fun shopping". | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
'Paul fancied his chances so purchased a package | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
'of bidding credits for £27.99 so that he could start playing.' | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
I strongly believed at this point that I was purchasing tokens to bid | 0:14:02 | 0:14:08 | |
against an item but the tokens weren't going to be | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
of monetary value. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
They were just tokens for bidding, it was some kind of game that | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
you played where you put a coin in and it worked. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
'Paul would only later realise that things aren't quite that simple. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
'But, assuming they were, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
'he soon spotted the make and model of telephone that he was | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
'looking for, which had a starting price of just £1.50.' | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
I was so excited. I've got an opportunity so I started bidding. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:39 | |
'Before he knew it, Paul had entered into an | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
'out-and-out bidding war to win the phone.' | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
You start then to really get into bid, bid, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
bid and it becomes very addictive. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Bid, bid, bid... | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
'But what Paul didn't realise was that each time | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
'he placed a bid money would come out of the £27.99 credit | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
'package that he had bought at the start.' | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
I suddenly went to bid again and it wouldn't let me bid. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
Then I got a message come up saying I've got no more credits. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
So I started then to sit back and really question, "What have | 0:15:15 | 0:15:21 | |
"I just done? Have I just blown the money or is it somewhere?" | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
'Paul had used up all of his £27.99 credit. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
'If he wanted to carry on bidding, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
'he would have to buy more of those credits.' | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
I quickly realised that the process of MadBid was that money was | 0:15:36 | 0:15:43 | |
used to purchase the tokens which were actual monetary value | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
and every time you bid, you lost that monetary value. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
'It was only at this point, as Paul began to look into the terms | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
'and conditions of the website more thoroughly, that he | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
'understood the unusual way MadBid works. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
'The £27.99 that he spent on credit hadn't disappeared completely. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:08 | |
'It was still in his MadBid account but the only way | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
'he could now touch it was by using it to put towards buying | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
'items being sold on the site at full price, rather than | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
'the discounted prices which had been the only reason | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
'he'd wanted to shop there in the first place. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
'Which might not be so bad, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
'if MadBid's full prices were always competitive, but they're not. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
'You can usually buy the same goods for the same, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
'or even lower price, on more conventional shopping sites. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
'But, for Paul, with his money now locked into his MadBid account, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
'that was no longer an option.' | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Shocking was the word I'd use for my stark realisation | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
that I felt that I had done something really stupid. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
'Well, we've been contacted by a number of other people who | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
'feel exactly the same way as Paul. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
'They don't think the way in which MadBid works is made clear | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
'enough on the website.' | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
I didn't realise that you were actually paying to bid. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
'And that is the key complaint from everyone | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
'who's been in touch about MadBid. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
'They simply hadn't appreciated that you pay to bid or that, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
'if you don't win an item, any money you've spent on bids is not | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
'directly returned but can only be used on full-price purchases.' | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
By the time you've found out what's actually going on, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
you've run out of money. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
'Indeed, in 2014 the Advertising Standards Authority | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
'agreed that the MadBid advertisement it looked at was | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
'not sufficiently clear that there was a cost associated with each bid, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
'saying that consumers would not immediately understand | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
'the nature of the service. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
'MadBid has since changed the wording of that particular ad. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
'But the ASA's concerns certainly mirror the experience of the people | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
'we've heard from, although they all told us | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
'it was through different ads that they first learned of MadBid | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
'and the offers you'll apparently find there. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
'When we asked financial journalist James Daley to take a look | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
'at the MadBid site, he had sympathy for those who'd been confused.' | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
MadBid describes itself as a discount auction site. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
In fact, even the number one fun shopping site. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
In reality, it's more of a gambling site than anything else | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
because the chances of you getting a great deal are completely unknown. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
So here we are on the home page of MadBid | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
and there are loads of great offers here | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
but nowhere does it say exactly how you get those and what the cost | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
is of ending up buying the credits to bid on these items. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
It's very hard to find anywhere about how much one click, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
one bid is going to cost you and the truth is that it varies. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
It's so untransparent. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
It's very easy for customers to throw away money here. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
'But when we contacted MadBid.com the company completely | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
'rejected any criticism of how it works. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
'It stressed that Paul has not lost the £27.99 he spent on credits, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
'reiterating that although he can't get a monetary refund, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
'like all customers who don't win at auction, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
'his credits were converted into earned discount vouchers | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
'which can be redeemed against purchases from MadBid's | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
'online shop and are valid for 365 days. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
'The company insisted that its terms | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
'and conditions are well structured and everything is clearly defined | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
'in detail with a video tutorial demonstrating exactly how it works. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
'Then it went on to point out that any customer who buys credit | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
'and then decides not to bid at all is entitled to a full refund | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
'and it added that its advertising meets all necessary criteria. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
'Even so, Paul and the others we've heard from say much the same thing, by the way. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
'They still believe although the information is in the company's terms and conditions, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
'it isn't clear enough and if he had understood how it worked, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
'Paul's adamant that he would never have signed up.' | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
I strongly feel that I've been ripped off. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Yeah, you know, the words that I used to my partner | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
when she came home that night was I feel like I've been mugged... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
..by the invisible man. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
'Still to come on Rip-off Britain, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
'how safe is the free Wi-Fi we use when we're out and about?' | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
I think people should be very concerned | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
when using a public Wi-Fi hotspot to access the internet. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
It's about sacrificing convenience for security. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
'We're on the road again with our Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
'This year we've come to the heart of the East Midlands, to | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
'one of the biggest shopping centres in Nottingham.' | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
There's a whole wonderful world of consumer advice waiting for you. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
'For the fifth year running we've brought our team of experts | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
'with us, ready to give face-to-face consumer advice - all with the aim | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
'of stopping as many of you as possible from being ripped off.' | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
-Edwina, meet Cynthia. -Good morning. -Nice to meet you. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
'Edwina Seddon was keen to talk to trading standards expert | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
'Sylvia Rook about a deposit she paid for building work that was never done.' | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
We arranged for a drive to be fitted at our property | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
and signed a contract on the 1st December last year. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
They agreed that they would do it in March of this year. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
In February, they rang my husband and asked for a deposit of £480. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
They never mentioned that it was non-refundable | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
and they haven't done the work. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
They haven't communicated with us and when I did manage to speak | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
to them, I just got a lot of twaddle, really. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
With the law, the Consumer Contracts regulations, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
it says you've got the right to cancel the contract 14 days after | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
the goods have been delivered and the goods would be the concrete. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
You can cancel a contract if you want. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
If you've got their name and their registered office address, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-then it's a matter of writing them a letter. -I've done that. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
I sent them a letter two weeks today giving them 14 days to reply. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:19 | |
-They haven't, as yet, replied. -What you need to do then is send them | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
a "letter before action" saying that you want the full refund | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
of your £400 within the next seven days or you will | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-pursue them through the small claims court. -How much will that cost? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
It's a sliding fee. I think it's around about £70 | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
but that's the way to try and get your money back, is to now take them through the courts. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Well, I will take it to the limit because I think it's disgusting. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
I'll take it to the highest court in the land if I have to. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
'Immediately after coming to see us, Edwina acted on Sylvia's advice | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
'and issued a letter before action to the company involved. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
'They didn't reply so now she's taking action through the small claims court. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
'Right in the heart of the shopping centre we set up what | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
'we call our gripe area, where you came along to tell us | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
'about all the things that really get your goat.' | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
I hate bad customer service | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
because I work in the customer service industry myself | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and I'm really helpful and really polite | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
and I expect to be treated how I treat other people. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
What really annoys me is when you buy things from the shop, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
you bring the thing back, they say it's non-refundable. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I'm annoyed about council tax. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
We pay £290 a month and we get nothing in our village for it. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
'And we set our experts loose to share their tips | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
'with passing shoppers. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
'Finance expert Sarah Pennells wanted to see how up to date | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
'we might be on the information that companies can get on our finances.' | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
Have you ever done anything like get hold of a copy of your credit report to see what's on there? | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
-No. -Would you be interested in seeing it at all | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
-or is there a reason...? -No, I'd rather not. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Well, a credit report isn't just a record of whether you've repaid your credit card. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
You said you'd rather not see what's on your credit report. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
-Absolutely. Maybe the loans that I've had? -OK. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
-You've paid them off OK in the past? -Yeah. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Because if you've paid something off and there hasn't been a problem, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
then it could stay on your credit report for about | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
-up to two, three, four years. -Right. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
It is worth getting hold of your credit report. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
And the reason is, companies are looking at it all the time, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
-if you ever apply for credit. They'll be checking it. -Right. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
And you may as well make sure it's correct | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
because there might be a mistake on it. You can get it for £2. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
It's a legal right that everybody has. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
You can do it online or you can do it by post. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
You can get hold of a copy of your credit report and there's no other fee. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
'Sarah's put together a fact sheet full of great tips on how to | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
'give your finances a simple makeover. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
'You can find it on our website... | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
'..along with plenty of advice from the rest of our team of experts.' | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
For many of us, I guess staying connected to the internet has | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
become an essential part of our lives. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Not just at home or at work, but when we're out and about, as well. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Smartphones and tablets have made that really easy, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
especially as these days so many of the places we visit, like cafes, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
pubs or hotels, will offer free Wi-Fi for customers, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
so wherever we are we can quickly log on. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
But is it always a good idea to connect to those networks? Because it | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
could be that some of them aren't as safe, or even as genuine, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
as you might think. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Our technology expert, David McClelland, has been conducting | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
an experiment and the results may make you think twice before you | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
sign up to the first free Wi-Fi you see. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
'Public Wi-Fi is everywhere - in hotels, shops, cafes and beyond. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
'But while it may be a convenient way to log on when we're out and about, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
'how do we know if those connections are trustworthy?' | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
The bus stop where I wait has a free Wi-Fi area for, like, 30 minutes. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
So I'm waiting for my bus, it's really good | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
cos you can go on your phone and it doesn't cost you a penny. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Even if they don't have a passcode, I'd always test them out | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
and if they work I will use them. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
Often the shops that you go in, you kind of choose those | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
specifically because they have maybe got free Wi-Fi. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
'But free doesn't necessarily mean secure. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
'And internet security specialists, like our technology expert | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
'David McClelland, are worried that some Wi-Fi hotspots can be | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
'abused by cybercriminals.' | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
I think people are drawn to public Wi-Fi | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
because we all love a free lunch | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
and we're also very mindful of not going over our monthly data | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
allowance in our service plans because that can be quite expensive. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
The problem is, increasingly we're sacrificing security | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
for convenience and while we're drinking a coffee or maybe | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
having a cake in a coffee shop, it could well be that | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
hackers are snacking on our personal details as we do so. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
'David's convinced that fraudsters may already be setting up fake | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
'Wi-Fi hotspots that could give them access to all your online details, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
'and to prove how easily we might fall for it, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
'he's set up his own free public Wi-Fi hotspot in a busy cafe.' | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
We're in a coffee shop in London where we've set up | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
a wireless network. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:29 | |
This is a spoof wireless network, just with this little box here. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
It's broadcasting a hotspot that you might find in a normal coffee shop for free Wi-Fi. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
We're waiting to see how many people connect to this over the | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
couple of hours or so that we're here. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
'David's network is simply called Free Wi-Fi | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
'and anyone coming into the cafe will have the option of selecting it. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
'But with no information about who is providing the Wi-Fi connection, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
'these coffee shop customers can't be certain whether it's a | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
'legitimate connection or a scammer watching their every move. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
'Luckily, in this case, as soon as anyone logs on, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
'they'll get a message explaining what we're doing.' | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
It's just an experiment, we're not collecting any personal details. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
There is a Rip-Off Britain pop-up page that comes up here instead. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
It helps to illustrate just how easily people are willing to | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
log on to a network without any idea whatsoever what it actually is. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
Oh! | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
Someone's just connected. Oh, gosh, yeah. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
It's all kicking off here. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
'While David waits to see how many unsuspecting customers will be | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
'tempted by his free Wi-Fi, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:39 | |
'he's going to meet Rip-Off Britain viewer Joey Steele, who e-mailed us | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
'because he's worried about how safe the public networks he uses are. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
'Joey thinks he takes all the right steps to protect himself | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
'but is he right?' | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
I'm connecting to loads of different Wi-Fi hotspots and free public ones. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
Am I putting myself at more risk using the different ones? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
It doesn't matter whether you're connecting to a wireless network | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
that a hacker has set up or whether you're connecting to | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
a genuine network from a cafe like this, both of them are vulnerable. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
So what makes it so unsafe? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
You run the risk of a hacker doing the digital equivalent | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
of eavesdropping, basically. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
'And those ever more sophisticated scammers can find plenty of ways to | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
'take advantage of even the simplest details they get hold of in this way.' | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
In the right hands, somebody can use those bits of information | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
against you as an identity theft, or an identity fraud attack. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
'And it's not just your smartphone that's vulnerable to | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
'attacks like this, laptop computers, or tablets, are just as viable | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
'to hackers looking to get hold of your information. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
'One simple piece of advice | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
'if you're surfing the internet using Wi-Fi is to look | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
'out for the websites whose addresses begin with the letters https. | 0:29:54 | 0:30:00 | |
'The "s" stands for secure. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
'Banks and many shops now use them and you'll know you're safe | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
'because you'll see a little padlock sign by the address. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
'That's just one of the tips Joey's going to keep in mind.' | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
I think that I'm going to not connect to Wi-Fi networks | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
automatically. That's probably the biggest thing | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
because if I don't know that I'm connecting to them, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
I don't know that I'm putting myself at risk. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
'Back inside, the fake network David set up has been | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
'running for just an hour but we have already had quite a few | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
'coffee shop customers attempting to log on.' | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
In real time right now, I'm seeing people logging on to this | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
spoof network that we've created, trying to visit web pages. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
It's very exciting. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
It's like watching some real drama unfold in real time. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
'And when we approached some of the customers who had tried to | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
'log on to our network, it was clear they really weren't aware | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
'why it could be so risky.' | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Are you aware of the fact that when you're logging onto these | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
networks, potentially, people might be able to eavesdrop, to snoop | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
in on the data that you're sending and receiving over the internet? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Um, marginally, I guess. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
Although generally I only really log on in coffee shops | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
and on what I presume as being "their" networks. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
So what will you do differently now you're a bit more | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
aware of the risks of public Wi-Fi? | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
Most likely just make sure that the network I'm connecting to | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
is in fact the network of the establishment that I'm in. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
'Throughout the afternoon there was a steady stream of other | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
'customers falling for our fake free Wi-Fi.' | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
The experiment's finished, we've been here for four hours | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
and in that time we've had 15 different connection | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
attempts onto our fake wireless hotspot. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
That's 15 people who potentially might be surrendering their private | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
and personal information to hackers and scammers. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
'So is there anything more the providers of public | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
'Wi-Fi could be doing to help protect us? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
'We contacted the top three coffee shop chains, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
'Caffe Nero, Starbucks and Costa, to see what they do to ensure | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
'their Wi-Fi networks are secure. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
'Caffe Nero chose not to comment. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
'The others said that they put preventative measures in place | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
'and monitor against any risks | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
'and they reiterated David's advice to only use secure websites. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
'Starbucks, along with BT, which provides the chain's Wi-Fi, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
'told us by its very nature public Wi-Fi always carries | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
'a potential risk if unsecured websites are being used. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
'They said that they have planned upgrades later this year to | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
'further improve Wi-Fi security in their outlets. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
'Costa, with their Wi-Fi provider O2, told us that their | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
'public Wi-Fi network has a personalised welcome page | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
'when users sign in so that users can be confident | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
'they're connected to a fully monitored and secure service. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
'But David believes that some public Wi-Fi providers could do more to | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
'warn users that their connection may not be as secure as you might think. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
'He also feels that we ourselves should be more careful | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
'when going online, whether we're on the go or at home.' | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
If you've got an unencrypted network that you're running at home, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
then you run the risk of hackers being able to see what you're sending | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
and receiving over the internet. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
If I were a cybercriminal, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
I would be able to use this data to steal money from people, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
to perform all kinds of identity theft, identity fraud - | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
it's really serious stuff. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
'Luckily for us, David's put together some tips on using Wi-Fi safely | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
'and you can find them on our website.' | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Earlier in the programme we heard about the dark web, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
the secret corners of the internet where fraudsters | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
and criminals can buy and sell stolen information and identities. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
Now although my information appears not to be there, there are at least | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
five million people whose personal and valuable information IS. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
In fact, no sooner had we finished filming | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
with identity theft expert Darren Innes than he called us back | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
to tell us that he believed he had intercepted | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
a potential fraud involving stolen credit card details | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
that were being used to buy very expensive goods. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
Darren had picked up what he thought were suspicious patterns | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
of activity on one of the websites on the dark web. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
What he'd noticed was that several different e-mail addresses | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
were being used to order goods that were apparently all being | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
delivered to one home address. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
You don't find different individuals with the same e-mail address, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
that's a statistical improbability, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
so that was the immediate flag for us. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
If you find a pattern within your data, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
it's pretty straightforward to realise that that is | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
a criminal group who are receiving goods that they will sell on | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
to other individuals with a view to making money. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
Darren suspected that whoever was | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
using these different e-mail addresses | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
was ordering goods using stolen credit card details, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
and then getting them delivered to what's known as a "drop house". | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
When they take over your identity, they replace your address | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
with a particular address that they control. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Your goods are then delivered, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
after goods have been paid for with your credit card, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
to that address, and the criminal then has possession of them. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
Normally they're typical high-value items, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
so they could be high-value clothing, electrical goods, | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
anything that the criminal can pass on quickly | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
and make their money out of it. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
If he's right, this kind of criminal activity is particularly hard | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
to track, as anything that is carried out on the dark web | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
leaves little or no footprint, so once the criminal has bought | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
the stolen details, they're virtually impossible to find. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
In this case, we have no idea of telling who the actual criminal is. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
What we can tell is, it's most likely to be | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
a gang of criminals operating out of the same address. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
So they're getting deliveries of goods on a regular basis that | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
then they go on to sell. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
A lot of gangs will be operating internationally, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
so they may be sitting in a country in Africa or Eastern Europe | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
defrauding us, carrying out the technology piece of this, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
the ordering of the goods, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
and then they will have one or two people in the UK that receive | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
those goods and then either sell them on or put them | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
in a container and ship them to another country. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
To check whether Darren's intelligence was right, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
we contacted the customer whose credit card details had been stolen. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
They confirmed to us that they | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
had also just been made aware of the fraud by their | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
credit card company, so in the nick of time, the fraud had been stopped. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
But we wanted to know more about who lived at the address | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
to which the goods were apparently being delivered, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
and whether they really had links with criminals using the dark web. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
So we've come up with a ruse to try and find out. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
We're going to send an empty parcel to the same address that was | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
being used by the spate of orders that Darren spotted. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
But we'll address it to the name of a person | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
that we know does NOT live there. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
So the question is, will whoever IS there accept it, or come clean | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
that it isn't for them? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Well, Darren is pretty confident about what | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
he thinks is going to happen. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
The person will probably not even think about it and just sign | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
the goods, but when you question them, they'll most likely play dumb. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Is he right? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
Well, posing as a delivery man, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
one of our team is making up the parcel. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
OK, what I'm about to do is write a fake name, make up a fake name, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
write that on the box | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
and then attempt to give it to the people living in the house. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
So the fake name is now on the box | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
and I'm going to attempt to deliver it. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Hello, mate, got a package for you. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-WOMAN: -Oh, thank you. -Yep, all right. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
So the person at the house happily accepted a parcel that was | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
not for them, but in case that was simply an honest mistake, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
we're going to deliver a second parcel, and this time we've | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
addressed it to Julia Somerville, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
and we know she doesn't live there. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
So, what will whoever answers the door say when we ask if she does? | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
Hello. Got a package, does this person live here? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah? -Thanks. -OK, no problem. Thank you. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
The person who answered the door not only accepted the parcel, but also | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
falsely claimed that the addressee WAS someone who lived there. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
We knew this wasn't true, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
so went back to the house for an explanation. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
-'Scuse me, hi, do you live here? -No, I don't. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
-Hello, we're from BBC's Rip-Off Britain, we'd like... -No, thanks. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
We'd like to know why you've accepted two parcels for made-up names. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:35 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:39:35 | 0:39:36 | |
So we've just come back from the house, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
and the occupants didn't have too much to say for themselves. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
They accepted two parcels with names that we clearly made up, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
and they slammed the door on us. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
Now, the fact that our parcels were accepted doesn't | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
actually prove any link to the fraudulent orders | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
that Darren spotted. But it is enough | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
to get his alarm bells ringing. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
By the very nature, that they're signing for a set | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
of goods that they didn't pay for, leads on to them being suspicious. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
And it remains the case that, for whatever reason | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
and whoever did it, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:14 | |
some of the goods delivered to this address were ordered illegally, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
using personal details bought and sold on the dark web. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
So Darren has advice to make sure that, the next time, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
it's not your information being stolen and used this way. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
The bottom line is, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
we have to be responsible for our own personal data. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
We have to change our password regularly, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
we have to look at our credit file and see | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
if there's been anybody trying to access it, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
we do need to take note of our bank account statements and see | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
if there's been activity on there that we're not aware of. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
That is really the only way that we're going to prevent this. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
and we'd especially like to hear from you | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
if you've had a problem on holiday or while travelling at home or abroad. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
So, if you feel let down by your airline, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
disappointed that the hotel looked very different from the | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
glossy photos in the brochure, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
or maybe you're angry about hidden charges | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
that weren't clear when you booked... | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
..you can write to us, at... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Or send us an e-mail, to... | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
Well, I must say, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
I've personally learned a lot from today's programme. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
These days, almost everything we do seems to be online, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
but as we've seen, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
the moment we use the internet we leave digital footprints | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
right across the web, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
so it truly is important to take a moment to think about | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
exactly what information you're providing | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
and who you're giving it to. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
Yes, when you've pressed that send key, you can't get it back. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Well, everyone we've heard from today is now a little bit more | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
sceptical about where they click and what they actually do online, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
so fingers crossed you too will think twice about going onto | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
a site that might not be all you think it is, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
or works a little bit differently from the way you've assumed. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
So, before you sign up to anything, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
don't just click OK to all of those terms and conditions, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
make sure that you read them over before, because if things | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
go wrong, it's much more difficult to put things right afterwards. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
And, as we saw in that last test in the cafe, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
just think very carefully about how | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
and where you connect to the internet, particularly | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
if you're out and about, because you never know who might be watching. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Well, we're delighted that you chose to watch us today, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
and we hope you'll do it again, but for today, that's it. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
We will be back with more of your stories very soon, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
but for now, from all of us, bye-bye. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 | |
-Bye-bye. -Goodbye. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:03 |