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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You told us about the companies you think you get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
If you're paying for good service, you expect a good service | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and a good product, whatever it may be. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
At the end of the day, we expect value for money. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Wool has been pulled over our eyes. I don't think we get a fair price. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I think they should always put the customer first. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
-And no-one could sort that out for you over ten years? -No-one has. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
we're here to find out why you are out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello and welcome once again to Rip Off Britain. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
And if you've ever needed help in sorting out your cash | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
then you've definitely come to the right place | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
because today we'll be looking at some of the things that can go wrong | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
when you're trying to secure your money for the future, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
whether it is for yourself or, indeed, your family. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Now, I know it's not exactly a cheerful business, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
planning for the worst, but mapping out your finances for whatever | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
might crop up, whether it's bad or good, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
can only avoid hassle later on. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
However, you do need to know what you are doing because, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
as we are going to see, there are plenty of people around | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
who may give you what turns out to be very much the wrong advice | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
on what to do with your money. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
And the consequences of that happening can be disastrous. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
But, don't worry, because although there are some stories today | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
that may fill you with utter horror, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
I know they certainly did me, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
and make you think very carefully about your own decisions, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
there is one story that really does prove that, even when things may | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
look at their very bleakest, it is always worth persevering with | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
a complaint and not giving up | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
because this is a tale that ends with | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
what could be the biggest pay-out we have ever heard of. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Coming up, it's Rip Off Britain to the rescue | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
after this man's illness left him unable to work | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
but without the financial support he thought that he'd put in place. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
I feel incredibly angry | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
but helpless at the same time. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
And what would you do if your bank | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
remains utterly convinced that you are dead? | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
I said to him, "I'm on the phone to you now. How can I be deceased?" | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Well, I guess that most of us know there's been something of a | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
revolution in the world of pensions recently with the biggest shake-up | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
that we've seen for decades on how they exactly work. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
The changes have been broadly welcomed by most financial experts | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
because they do give a lot more flexibility | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
on how you support yourself through retirement, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and they maybe even give you an opportunity | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
to cash in your pension early. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
But it's not all good news for anyone planning ahead for the future. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Greater access to our pensions has also opened the doors to | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
plenty of outfits who may try and entice you into taking advantage | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
of what could be described as free pension reviews, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
a one-off investment opportunity or even a legal loophole. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
So, watch out because, as happened in these next cases, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
the money that you have spent your entire working life saving for | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
could vanish overnight | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
and there will be very little you can do to get it back. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
In 2011, Gary Tuff was really struggling financially. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
Having lost his job as a manager at a software business, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
he'd racked up debts of over £30,000 on credit cards and loans, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
and the repayments and interest were getting increasingly unmanageable. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
Over a period of time, financial pressures had grown | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
to a point where it had become clearly evident that something | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
needed to be done to release the pressure. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Gary needed a way out of his problems fast. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
You get to a point where you say, "Enough is enough." | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
So I need to make a fairly significant decision now | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and that's what I did. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
Desperate for a solution, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Gary contacted a company of independent financial advisers. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
They told him about a scheme that seemed to be the answer | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
to his problems, by freeing up money from his pension. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
On the surface, with the amount of monies that it could release, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
it sounded like a very appropriate way to go forward. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Gary was told that, by signing up to a type of what is often called | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
a pension liberation scheme, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
he'd immediately be able to make use of his entire £167,000 pension pot. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:45 | |
Half of it would be invested on his behalf, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
but the scheme, run by a company called Ark Business Consulting, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
apparently allowed Gary to get his hands on the rest. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
£83,000 in a lump sum within just seven days. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
It's almost like someone waving a lottery ticket | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
in front of your face, saying, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
"This is the winning ticket and your money worries are over." | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
So...that's life-changing. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Because, at 47, Gary was too young to cash in his pension pot, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
you normally need to be 55 to do that, the lump sum would be a loan. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
And it seemed that by giving him the money as a loan, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Arc had found a way for people to make use of their pension sooner. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
It sounded plausible to Gary. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But with so much at stake, he wasn't yet completely persuaded. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
I needed convincing that, first of all, this was a legal investment. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
And it was explained to me that this was brand-new, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
that this was literally weeks old, that there was nothing out there. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
It was a loophole being exploited quickly. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Further reassurance came when the financial adviser said | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
that not only was the Arc scheme | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
properly registered with HMRC, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
but 15 of their other clients had also signed up - | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
one of whom was their company director - | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
and Gary was finally swayed. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
All that was left for him to do was sign a contract allowing Arc | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
to withdraw all of his £167,000 pension. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
I was quite convinced that this sounded like it was going to work. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
It apparently was an acceptable way to liberate your pension. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
But the seven days in which Gary was told | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
he would effectively receive half of his pension pot came and went. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
I went on to the internet, searched for the name of the company, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
the investment vehicle, Arc, and I could see that other people | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
had commented in a blog that they had concerns, as well. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
That something had gone, as they said, "smelly". | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
It almost stops you being able to breathe because you think, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
"Oh, my goodness. What's about to happen here?" | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
And it seemed the money he'd invested could be lost, as well. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
When Gary spoke to his financial advisers, the news wasn't good. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
The Arc scheme wasn't the loophole that it first appeared. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
In fact, The Pensions Regulator had decided that the scheme was | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
operating unlawfully. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
That meant no lump sum as it was classed as an unauthorised payment. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
It is as if someone has just taken that lottery ticket | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
and ripped it up in front of your face. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
With his financial advisers declaring | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
that this was nothing to do with them, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Gary turned to The Pensions Regulator | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
in the hope that they would be able to help, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
but what they had to add was even more devastating. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
The loan Ark had taken from his pension pot | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
was taxable at a rate of 55%, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
so not only was Gary facing the prospect of having | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
lost his £167,000, but he also faced the very real | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
possibility that he owed the taxman nearly £46,000. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
To say that that was the most challenging time of my life | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
is not to put too fine a point on it. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Gary's story is depressingly familiar to Sean Browse, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
who investigates pension schemes on behalf of The Pensions Regulator. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
He's currently looking into around 60 similar cases. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
Many other people are encouraged to join these types of schemes. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Yes, they may be given access to a cash sum, but the price | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
they pay for that is being exposed to significant tax penalties. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
They run the risk of their pension funds being | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
invested in highly-risky investments. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Some of the schemes that Sean and his team | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
are investigating were entirely bogus, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
including the one that Jane Hammonds was talked into signing up to. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
In 2013, she invested her £129,000 pension pot | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
into a scheme that was known as Iron Stream, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
but it turned out to be totally fictitious. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I get up and do shift work for a minimum wage, and these guys | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
are probably sitting on yachts somewhere drinking champagne. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Jane has come to meet Sean to see | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
if there's any hope of tracking down her cash. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
What are the chances of me ever seeing any of it again? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
I have to say that the chances are probably quite slim. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
The warning signs are there. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
OK. That's actually just made me feel sick. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
-I'm not surprised. -Um... Yeah. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
We will do all that we can to find this money. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
And if we can't find it, we will do all we can | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
-to go after the people that have spent your money. -Mm. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
It's estimated that up to £1 billion has been lost | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
to pension-liberation schemes like these, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
with most of the cash disappearing into thin air. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
The government has issued stark warnings | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
about such opportunities, saying that most schemes are bogus | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
and that once money is transferred into a scam, it's too late. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Which means that Gary's fears that he's lost his money | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
are, sadly, likely to be correct. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
But what about Gary's money? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
We asked Ark Business Consulting, who ran the scheme in which | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Gary put his £167,000, where exactly has his money gone? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
It told us that's its scheme was taken over by The Pensions Regulator | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
before Gary's funds were received from his pension provider, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
so they have no idea what has happened to his cash, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
and it insisted that everything it did was transparent. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
So we went back to Sean Browse's team, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
who were appointed as trustees of the Ark scheme by The Pensions Regulator. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
They told us that, at the time the scheme was stopped, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
the transfer of Gary's funds was still in progress. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
So, given the recoveries that they've made to date, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
they're optimistic that he will get some of his money back, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
though it might still come with a hefty tax bill. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
And with HM Revenue & Customs reiterating its advice | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
to be wary of any such pension schemes, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
personal finance expert Sarah Pennells has advice to keep in mind | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
if what seems like an opportunity does come along. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
There's a magic age of 55 and, if you're younger than that, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
then you can't, under the rules, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
take money out without either being seriously ill | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
and only having months or a year or so to live, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
or having to pay a large tax charge. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
And for those people who are aged 55 or over, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
there are some companies who are trying to persuade you | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
to put your money into either high-risk, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
high-charge or unregulated investments. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
If a company promises returns that are way above anything | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
that anybody else is offering you, that's often a bad sign. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
If they're a financial advisor, always check the regulator, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
the Financial Conduct Authority's Register, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
because that will tell you whether they are genuinely registered | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and therefore regulated. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
The recent pensions reforms have created new opportunities of | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
which some companies and scammers have been quick to take advantage, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
so the best advice is to steer well clear of any business | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
that links pension reforms to one-off investments, loans or upfront cash. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
Some of them will cold call with recorded messages. Don't respond. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Meanwhile, Gary is still struggling | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
to come to terms with what's happened. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Every day, actually, I ask myself, "How could this have happened?" | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
All of a sudden, you could face the rest of your life without | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
any financial comfort whatsoever, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
so it's a very, very difficult process to manage in your head. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
Now, if you ever become so ill that you're unable to work, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
you're still going to need a way of paying your bills, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
that's why so many of us take out | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
some kind of income-protection insurance | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
to safeguard ourselves if the worst happens and our regular income stops. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Ian Tallach did that several years ago. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
He hoped it was just a precaution | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
and that he'd never need to make a claim on the policy, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
but then he did have to make a claim and his cover didn't pay out. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
Ian was convinced he'd been treated unfairly, so he came to us. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
If you couldn't work due to a serious illness, how would you manage? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Could you survive on savings or on sick pay? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
250,000 people per year have to stop work due to ill health. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
More people insure their pets than their income. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Only around 10% of us have taken out income-protection insurance. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
The cover that, if the worst should happen, is designed to step in | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
and pay a proportion of your earnings so you can still live comfortably. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
In Balnain near Loch Ness, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
former paediatric doctor Ian Tallach is one of those who did take out | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
an income-protection policy when his wife was expecting their first child. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
We thought it was about time that we got responsible | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and started doing something for our future | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
because it wasn't just our future, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
it was the future of our children, as well. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
But in June 2011, a year after taking out the policy, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Ian started to experience a weakness in his right leg. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
I became increasingly aware that my right leg was leaden and, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
er...I was unable to move it. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I began to think that there was something here that would | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
probably need investigated in a hospital setting. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Shortly afterwards, when it was investigated, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
Ian was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis or MS. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
MS is a disease of the central nervous system | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
and affects around 100,000 people in the UK. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
No-one knows the exact cause but, over time, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
it can lead to significant disability. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
In the months following his diagnosis, Ian began to experience | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
difficulties in walking, plus pins and needles in his right arm, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
chronic fatigue and short-term memory problems. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
And he and his family soon had grave concerns | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
about the progression of the disease. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
What I've been told is that additional support of some | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
kind or another will be required, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
whether it's just a walking aid, or perhaps a wheelchair, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:19 | |
but the future is very, very uncertain. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
By June of 2014, Ian's condition had deteriorated | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
so much that he had no choice but to quit his job. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Unable to work, he was initially relieved that he'd taken out | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
that income-protection insurance. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
For almost four years, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
he'd been paying a monthly premium of £66.34 to Friends Life, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
which he'd hoped would give him a monthly income until he turned 60. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
But Ian was in for a real shock when he contacted Friends Life | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
to make what he'd assumed would be a routine claim. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
The company came back to him in February 2015 | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
with the devastating news that it would not be accepting his claim | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
and, therefore, would not be paying out the cover he expected. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
I was extremely distressed. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
It's true to say that my wife | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
and I were both in despair for a length of time. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
I can't even begin to describe how we felt. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
A mixture of sadness, despair, anger, helplessness. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
This has made things extremely difficult for our family. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
So, what was the reason for not paying out? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
The company said it was because | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Ian had failed to tell them about some brief episodes | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
of blurred vision he'd experienced back in 2004 | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
as part of the medical questions routinely asked | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
by most insurers for this type of policy. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Friends Life had asked Ian about his eyesight, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
which included a reference to blurred vision. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Now, blurred vision can be one of the many early symptoms of MS, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
but as these episodes had been fleeting | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
and long before any other problems became apparent, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Ian hadn't considered them to be significant. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
The main reason why I wasn't concerned was that these episodes, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
each of them, spontaneously resolved after about five seconds. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Given that they never impaired my actual forwards vision | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
or my ability to function in any way, they didn't worry me. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
And when, six years later, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
he'd been taking out his policy with Friends Life and telling the company | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
his medical history over the phone, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Ian hadn't given these brief episodes a second's thought, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
so he hadn't mentioned them. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
It was only 13 months later, when the diagnosis of MS was being made, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
that these episodes were brought to mind. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
It didn't help Ian's case that his consultant's report | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
when diagnosing his MS mistakenly said he'd previously | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
experienced blurred vision for several months, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
rather than the few seconds that Ian claimed. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
But in any case, Friends Life now told him | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
that had it known about any episodes of blurred vision, however brief, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
he wouldn't have been eligible for the policy in the first place. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
The key question is whether or not the symptom experienced in 2004 | 0:18:17 | 0:18:24 | |
for which reason this policy has been discredited | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
was material or in any way relevant to MS | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
and the answer is unequivocally no, it's not. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
It has no predictive value at all when it resolves after five seconds. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
I feel incredibly angry, but helpless at the same time. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
Friends Life reneging on this policy | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
means that we do not have financial stability for our children. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
The company did say it would refund | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
the premiums he'd paid over the years. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
But, in despair and worried about his family's future, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
it was at this point that Ian contacted us. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Now, when we got in touch with Friends Life about their decision | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
not to pay out, it was a dramatic change in the company's position. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
The company told us it would now start to pay Ian's claim after all | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and would like to apologise to Ian | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
for any distress caused to him and his family. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
It said that, following a second review of his claim, the insurer | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
"felt that, on balance, it was reasonable" | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
for Ian to have answered the questions the way he did | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
when he took out the policy. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Although it reiterated that, had they had all the information | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
from the outset, the cover available to him might have been limited. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Friends Life stressed that it always follows a | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
"robust claims assessment procedure", | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and is, "committed to paying as many claims as possible". | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
In 2014, paying out more than £265 million | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
in protection claims to over 7,000 people. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
For Ian and his family, given the circumstances, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
it's the best news they could hope for. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
And while his experience is a reminder of just how careful | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
you need to be when buying any sort of health cover, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
particularly one you may depend on in the future, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
when we spoke to Ian again over the internet, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
his utter relief about the company's change of heart was obvious. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
The relief was indescribable whenever it dawned on me | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
that Friends Life were going to pay out in full. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
It was only possible to... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
to continue fighting because of your involvement | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
and the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and the encouragement of the wider family. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
It's really just made a colossal, indescribable amount of difference, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
so thank you. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain - | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
after a talk with one of my sons, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
when is the right time to discuss a future | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
that no-one really wants to think about? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
I guess this is a really odd conversation. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
It's a tricky one because it's almost - who mentions it first? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
For two days only, we came to the heart of the East Midlands. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Welcome to Nottingham. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
It's because you write to us and email us with your consumer problems | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
in your hundreds that we open up our popup shop. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
And, you know, it's not just a great opportunity for us to be able | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
to meet all of you face to face, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
but it means we can also give you on-the-spot advice. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Sadly, for Chloe White, it was a little too late. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
She came to see Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook for advice | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
after bagging what, at first, seemed to be a bargain pair of trainers. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I went online to purchase some and they seemed to be not right. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:05 | |
-So, how much do these trainers normally sell for? -£120. -Oh, right. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
-And how much were these? -£60. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
Did it make you a little bit suspicious that they were cheap? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
It did, but I thought there was a sale. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I'm not an expert in counterfeits, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
but there are issues with the way in which it's finished and things. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
I think your concerns are absolutely right. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
I think these are not genuine trainers. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
If they were over £100 and you paid by credit card, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
you'd have extra rights, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
but because we are £60, it's a matter of contacting the bank, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
but also contact the retailer and try and get your money back. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
So the first thing you need to do is send an email and say you've | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
received the trainers, you're not happy, you want your money back. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
If they'd been sold from a seller in the UK, or in the EU, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
you always have 14 days from when you received the goods | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
that you can cancel your contract and send them back. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Your problem is, if they're outside the EU, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
you don't necessarily have the same laws. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
And Sylvia shared some of her top tips to help prevent Chloe | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and the rest of us from being ripped off when we're shopping online. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Do a lot of research, particularly if it's a company you've not heard of. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Put the name into a search engine, see if there's any adverse reviews. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
If it's got a .co.uk address, don't just assume it's in the UK | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
because anybody can buy that sort of address. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
There's a website called WHOIS | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
and you can actually put the name of the website in, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
and it will tell you where the trader is based. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-So good luck. -Thank you. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I do hope that you'll manage to get your money back on it. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
While some of our experts were helping you in our shop, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
others were out and about in the rest of the shopping centre | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
and its market, where James Daley was dishing out pointers | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
on how to keep down the cost of your home insurance. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
One of the things people are asked when they're buying a home | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
insurance policy is, are you at home in the day? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
They end up saying, "Well, I think I'll say I am at home | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
"because surely that'll make my home insurance cheaper." | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Actually, it doesn't. It can be the opposite | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
because the chance of you being burgled is actually less than | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
the chance of you causing a lot of damage by being at home. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
And technology specialist Jeremy Boone was explaining | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
how responding to the messages you're sent on social media | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
can help you make the most from big name brands. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
-If it's a brand you like, I'd recommend messaging them. -Why? | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
You can get quite a lot of good opportunities through it. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-Like what? -We've had free merchandise, offers for discounts, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
especially clothing retailers. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
There are millions of different retailers you could shop from. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
They chose to speak to you, so they want you to message them back. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
If you tell your friends, they'll message you even more. Trust me. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Meanwhile, at what we call our Gripe Area, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
there was a constant flow of people coming to tell us | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
about the things that get them hot under the collar. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
-ALL: -Oooo! | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
I was hiring a car, booking it for a special event. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
I booked online, but at the last minute, I decided to cancel it. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
And what I didn't know was that, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
when I cancelled it, they kept the fee. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
And so I have basically lost my money | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
without actually booking the car, and I think that's terrible. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
I'm annoyed with the constant phone calls about PPI claims. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
They have all our information, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
even claiming that we've had a loan with the bank, which we never have. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Energy bills are so high. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
It is a rip-off. It's just unfair. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Now, here is an extraordinary situation | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and, to be honest, it's one we have never come across before. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Just imagine how you'd feel if, in spite of being fit and healthy, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
you discover that according to your bank, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
they decided that for the past year, you've been dead. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
A bit far-fetched? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Well, I can promise you that the man who found himself in that position | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
finds that it continues to have an extraordinarily | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
terrible effect on his life, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
so we set out to discover how it is possible that someone who is | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
very clearly very much alive | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
can suddenly be considered to be deceased. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
And why such an obvious error cannot simply be put right. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
It was after a night out with his girlfriend Georgina | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
that 25-year-old legal assistant Ashley Flynn had the first clue | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
that something wasn't quite right with his bank account. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
I went up to Lloyds Bank and put my card in, and the card came back out. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
And it said, "You're unable to draw any money out." | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I came back to you and said, "Can I borrow £40-£50 for my night out?" | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
-And you was, like, "Really?" -How embarrassing. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
With all my friends, as well. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
So the first thing Ashley did on Monday was to contact his bank | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
and ask why his card had been rejected, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
but he couldn't believe the explanation he was given. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
When I rang the bank, the lady on the phone said, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
"Oh, you've been deceased". And I was, like, "Deceased?" | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
She said, "Yes. I've declared you deceased". | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
I said, like, "I'm on the phone to you now, how can I be deceased?" | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
I can't believe you found it funny. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
I did find it funny at first and I was telling my friends at work, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and my manager said to me, "I think you need to go up to the bank". | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
It needed sorting, there and then. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
You don't just get declared deceased for no reason. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
But, for some reason, Lloyds Bank considered Ashley was dead. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
But, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
it seemed this wasn't easily put right. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
When Ashley contacted the bank's fraud team, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
they told him to go back to his local branch with ID | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
to prove that he was actually alive. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
But when he did that, he was again told to contact the fraud team. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
It seemed clear to Ashley that his bank had no idea what to do | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
if a man that they thought was dead suddenly showed up | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
wanting access to his account. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
Nobody could believe it. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
It was at the end of January and I'd just been paid, as well, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
so my whole wage was in there and it froze all my phone bills | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
and all my direct debits. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
Unable to touch his cash, Ashley was in limbo. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
And his bank seemed at a total loss as to how to resolve the situation. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
One of the supervisors at the Lloyds in Scotland said | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
I need to prove that I'm actually declared deceased. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
And I was, like, "Well, it's on your statements. It's on your documents". | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
And he's, like, "It's not. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
"I'm looking at my system now and your account's fully up and active." | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
It's been two weeks now and I'm still classed as deceased. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
My money from my company is still just floating around | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
and I don't actually have access to it, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
so I'm borrowing money off everyone. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
I think that's when we thought it wasn't a joke | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
-and we started to panic. -That was scary. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
We're just two normal people | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
and how are we supposed to go up and prove ourselves | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
and fight against the bank? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
With no way of accessing his own money, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
Ashley asked his boss to pay his salary into Georgina's account. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
My friends used to say, "You're getting pocket money off your girlfriend!" | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
I was, like, "Well, no. I'm declared dead". | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
And they're all laughing, saying, "Of course you are!" | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
I couldn't even treat you without asking you for the bank card. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Oh, no. You'd have to ask your mum. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
On the advice of a friend, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
Ashley took his case to the Financial Ombudsman. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
But because the case was still active with Lloyds Bank, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
who were requesting further proof, that proved a dead-end. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
So to try and sort things out a different way, Ashley and Georgina | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
went to a different bank to open a joint bank account. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
It said, "Oh, no, look, you're dead on the system." | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
The bank manager was shocked and she said, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
"You need to ring the bereavement team". | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
And the bereavement team said, "Well, is he not dead?" | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
They were, like, "No. He's got his driving licence, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
"his passport and some documents in front of us | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
"with his address on and he's not dead." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Ashley was horrified to find that he was considered deceased | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
at more than just his own bank. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
One possible way of checking his personal status was to sign up | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
to a credit-checking service so that he could see | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
if all his creditors considered him to be dead. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
That way, he'd get the evidence | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
needed for the Financial Ombudsman to consider his case. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
That's when we got the first breakthrough. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
The document came through and it said I was deceased. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
And I was, like, "Finally, we've got a leg to stand on." | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
A little bit of evidence to go with us. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Ashley went back to the Financial Ombudsman | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
and, at that point, Lloyds accepted full responsibility. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
The bank was told to remove the information blocking | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
Ashley's credit rating, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
refund the interest and the charges to his account | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
and convert the overdraft into an interest-free loan. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
The compensation in total would be £750, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
but Ashley felt that it didn't go anywhere near making up | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
for all the problems the situation had caused. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Because whilst all this had been going on, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Ashley and Georgina had been trying to get a mortgage. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
But, with Ashley deemed deceased, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
Georgina's father had to come out of retirement | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
and put his name down on the deeds. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
But, because of his age, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
they'd had no choice but to commit to an 18-year mortgage, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
meaning they'd have to pay £300 a month more | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
than if it had been Ashley named on the mortgage. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Why wouldn't they just admit they made a mistake and rectify it? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
Why have they had to spiral it out into such a big thing? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
How has it managed to take so long? | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
If a manager just logged onto the system | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
when we went into the bank and looked at the two forms | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
of identification and just said, "Sorry, this is an error," | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
I wouldn't have even looked at it going any further. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
I would've just been, like, "That's fine." | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
And the nightmare didn't even end | 0:31:56 | 0:31:57 | |
when the bank accepted that Ashley was very much alive. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
That felt like a massive relief, but then, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
when they sent the first documents through saying | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
that you've got 12 months of overdraft charges | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
because you've not paid your overdraft, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
-and then there was, like, £900 worth of... -Charges. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
..charges come through. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
Ashley was not happy. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
He can't see why he should be left with any of the problems | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
that came about during the time that the bank thought he was dead. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Over the past two years, one in three borrowers | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
who've checked their credit reports say they have discovered a mistake. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
So we've asked the British Banking Association | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
for some advice if you find an error. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
What's really important is that when a mistake is made, it's cleared up. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
If you've got to eight weeks and the issue still hasn't been resolved, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
the bank is seeing things differently from you, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
ask for a deadlock letter. Once you've got that letter, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
you can go to the Financial Ombudsman Service. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
That is a really useful, free, impartial service | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
that will take up your complaint and look at it afresh. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
When we contacted Lloyds Bank, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
it told us that it was "very sorry" | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
for the difficulties Ashley has experienced because of its mistake. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
The bank said it's worked with Ashley | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
and the Financial Ombudsman Service to "put things right" | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
and will follow the instructions of the Ombudsman's findings. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
It added that it does feel the level of compensation offered | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
is appropriate. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
But, as Ashley doesn't feel that he can trust his life with his bank, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
he isn't so sure he wants to trust his money with it either, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
so he's going to stick to getting pocket money from Georgina. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
We'd just like Lloyds to rectify their error | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
and put us in the position we were in before. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Not one person has contacted me from Lloyds | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
to give me a reasonable explanation | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
for why they actually declared me as being deceased on the account. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I can't wait for this to be dead and buried. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
Something many of us do our best NOT to think about is | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
what might happen as we get older | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
and we lose the ability to make the right decisions at the right time, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
and maybe no longer have the capacity | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
to manage our money or affairs ourselves. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
So a lot of us - and I have to admit, myself included - | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
avoid having the crucial conversations with family or friends | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
that actually would help us plan ahead | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
for exactly those types of situation. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
But with so many of you writing to us at Rip Off Britain | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
about the problems that can arise as a result, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
it actually got me thinking a little bit more about my own family and future, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
and led to my son Michael and I discussing those difficult | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
but absolutely crucial questions that, quite frankly, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
I shouldn't have put off. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
Family time, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
moments to be treasured and never to be taken for granted. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
But, you know, as we get older, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
how many of us have the foresight to plan ahead | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
for who will be in control of the important decisions | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
should we become unable to think or care for ourselves? | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
If you don't plan for the future, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
apparently things can get very complicated and very expensive. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
So I'm meeting up with one of my sons, Michael, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
to discuss a plan for our family future | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
that, quite frankly, neither of us truly want to talk about. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
I guess this is a really odd conversation to have | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
and, if I'm being truthful, if I wasn't doing Rip Off Britain, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
I probably wouldn't be having the conversation. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
And, equally, it wouldn't be something that I would raise with you. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
It's a... It's a tricky one because it's almost who mentions it first. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
It's funny, really, because as I have never really thought of this before, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
although I'm very practical in all my other financial things, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
very practical, and I think very much in charge of it. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
The sort of conversation I'm about to have with Michael | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
isn't going to be that easy. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
But if you don't have it, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
and leave things to your family to sort out much later, it could end up | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
being a costly and drawn-out process for everybody concerned. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
As it was, indeed, for Jill Hutchison from Bath | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
after her dad James was diagnosed with Alzheimer's back in 2013. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
My dad has three children | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
and during his working life was very successful. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
He loved playing golf. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
He just had a lovely life, really. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
We first started to notice that he was becoming forgetful | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
and he very quickly seemed to not be able to do day-to-day tasks, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:25 | |
so he would be forgetful about where he was | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
and how to get back from where he was. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
And he was also quite forgetful | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
about where he'd left his money, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
what he was doing with his money... | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
And given that he'd always been very careful with that, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
that became a bit concerning. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
But by the time of his diagnosis, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
it was too late for Jill to take charge of her dad's finances | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
and, indeed, his care needs. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
James was no longer deemed legally able to give his consent, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
which forced the family into months of toing and froing, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
gathering evidence from his medical team | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and visiting James's lawyer in Edinburgh, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
in order to convince them that the family | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
should have the right to act in James's interests. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
After my dad was diagnosed, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
we confronted quite a lot of legal difficulties | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
because he was no longer seen to be of sound mind. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
We didn't really know where to go from there | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
and felt that we'd hit a brick wall. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Of course, all of that could have been avoided | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
had James signed a legal document that in England and Wales | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
is called a Lasting Power of Attorney or LPA. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
It means that you're able to nominate someone you trust | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
to handle your affairs IF you become unable to do it yourself. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
Well, it seems pretty clear to me | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
that registering a Lasting Power of Attorney | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
is a truly sensible thing to do | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
in terms of planning for your family's future. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
But then you hit the big question - when are you supposed to do it? | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
When is the right time? | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
And how do you go about it? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
There's a common misconception that | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Lasting Power of Attorney should be made | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
when someone starts to lose mental capacity or, indeed, has lost it | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
and that's completely wrong. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
Because, of course, if you've lost mental capacity, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
you can't make a Lasting Power of Attorney. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
'I've brought Michael along to sit down with solicitor Gary | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
'and find out what all of this really means for our futures.' | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
The correct time to be making Lasting Power of Attorney | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
is when you've got capacity, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
when you feel comfortable about making a choice about your future. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
But who then decides when you don't have capacity? | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
The law says everyone has capacity until it can be proved otherwise. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
Now, I can see the logic of all of that, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
but I must admit, as yet, deep down, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
I don't like the idea of handing over this level of power | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
if there's a chance that anybody could act against my wishes. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
Making a Lasting Power of Attorney | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
is not signing everything over at that point in time. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
It's being sensible and just planning for that day in the future. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
As Jill found out, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
failing to nominate a Lasting Power of Attorney early on | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
can prove time-consuming and frustrating | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
when decisions need to be made. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
In the end, her situation was resolved | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
thanks to the intervention of her dad's consultant, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
who helped the family get the Lasting Power of Attorney | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
that they needed. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
The consultant wrote a letter to the lawyer to say | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
that, as far as he was concerned, my dad was capable of giving | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
that Power of Attorney to us | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
and that was what my dad wanted. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:23 | |
And, in the end, the lawyer agreed. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
You can set up a Lasting Power of Attorney yourself | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
for the £110 that it costs to obtain the document | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
or, if you prefer, leaving it to the experts, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
you can pay a solicitor to set one up for you. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
It's probably around £500, £600 to go and see a solicitor, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
to sit down, have a conversation like this | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
and talk about all the options. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
The other option is to do it yourself. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Lasting Powers of Attorney | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
are supervised by the Office of the Public Guardian. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
You can go on to the OPG website - it's on the gov.uk website - | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
and you can bring up the Lasting Power of Attorney forms | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
and you can literally fill them in online. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
If you don't like doing things online, you can ring up the OPG | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
and they will send you a pack in the post. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Now, if you do decide to do it yourself, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
you must, must remember to register your forms with | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
the Office of the Public Guardian to make it all legal | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
and I'm quite sure my Michael has taken all of this on board. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Well, I didn't really know what Power of Attorney meant. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
I thought I did and I thought it was just about people | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
who were older and potentially with a medical condition like dementia, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
so it's something that I'm definitely going to consider. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
I have to be really honest and say that I have learned a lot | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
through that chat between Gary and Michael, of course. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
But what was really interesting... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
I was only really thinking of somebody in my age bracket and beyond, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
but what I learned is the fact that it is just as important | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
for somebody like Michael, who's young, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
to think about that Power of Attorney. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
And it's certainly given me food for thought. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
I've done my will, I'm looking at inheritance tax, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
and Power of Attorney is next on the list. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
more of your stories. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Confused over your bills | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
or feel you're paying well over the odds? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
It's far too small | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
and it's done on purpose, so that you can't actually read it. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
People will look at it and say, "I can't be bothered reading that." | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
People are buying into this - I did - | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
and are they going to be as awkward with them as they were with me? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
and want to share the mistakes you made with us | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
so that other people don't do the same thing. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
Just fobbed off completely...and very disappointed. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
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Well, as we've just seen, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
battling on even when it looks as if you're getting nowhere | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
really can reap rewards, sometimes in a way that's truly life-changing. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
It just goes to show how important it is to explore | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
every avenue available when it comes to fighting for your rights. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
But of course, as our stories have shown, it can be a very long | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
and drawn-out process with a lot of soul-searching along the way. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
And indeed, there are some situations where, sadly, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
it may turn out that, for whatever reason, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
you didn't make the right decisions. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
But, when that is the case, telling us can | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
at least mean that we make sure that others don't end up | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
getting caught out in the same way. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
So, as ever, if you've got something that you think that we | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
and indeed the entire Rip-Off Britain team should be investigating, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
then please, do get in touch with us, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
because we do really love to hear from you. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
And, whenever possible, we do want to help. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
But I'm afraid that it's on that note that we have to leave you for today, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
because, once again, we've run out of time. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
But, we will be back with lots more of your stories very soon. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
So, until that happens, thanks for joining us today. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
-And from everyone on the Rip-Off team, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. -Goodbye. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 |