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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch.

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When you have to call them, it takes ages and somebody else

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answers the phone who pretty much doesn't know what you're saying.

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The customer is not benefiting and, no, I'm not getting value for money.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money

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and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair.

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They don't deserve to be in any form of business whatsoever

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and they just want shutting down.

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And when you've lost out but no-one else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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They took the money out of my account and I don't even know

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who it was that was scamming me.

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So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake...

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We're here to find out why you're out of pocket

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money - this is...

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain where, as always,

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our team is busy reading your letters and e-mails

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to identify those stories that we would like to investigate next.

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And what's interesting about the ones

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that they've found for us today

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is that most of them involve situations that,

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for one reason or another, have left very large groups of people

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feeling thoroughly cheesed off.

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Cheesed off, indeed!

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But it always makes us sit up and take notice

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when more than just a few of you are telling us exactly the same thing.

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Now, in some of these instances,

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that's because there was a special event involved

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with months and months of planning and anticipation,

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not to mention all the saving up.

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But despite all of that, the people we've been talking to

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are adamant that they simply did not get what they paid for.

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And on top of the upset caused by that,

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they weren't having any luck getting their money back, either.

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Well, it's at times like that, of course,

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when we here at Rip-Off Britain try to step in and help.

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But in some of these cases,

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getting the lost money back is only half the battle because,

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as we're going to see, if the big day in question has already passed,

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there's very little that can be done to remedy the situation.

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Coming up - you can leave your hat on, but it wasn't

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so easy keeping the lights on at this outdoor Tom Jones concert.

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So, why haven't disappointed fans had their money back?

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-It was like someone had pulled the plug.

-Everything just went black.

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Boomf!

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And it calls itself the UK's most liked driving school so, why,

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after their lessons were booked and paid for,

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are these drivers not yet on the road?

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This is now six months later and I've given up, really, to be honest.

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I don't think I'm ever going to see the money again.

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Now, there are concerts and there are CONCERTS.

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And for many music fans, the bigger the act

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and the more special the location,

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the more likely it is that they're going to want to snap up a ticket.

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But it seems that one particular and very eagerly anticipated performance

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hit something of a bum note for a lot of the people who had

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forked out to go there and while it's not unusual for any show

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to draw a few complaints, it is less common when the star of the show

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is one of the biggest names in the business.

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Each summer for the last nine years,

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Josephine and Chris from Rennington in Northumberland

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have headed down to nearby Alnwick Castle

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with their friends in the village to enjoy an open-air music concert.

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We take a picnic, we take it into the pastures at Alnwick Castle.

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-It starts round about five o'clock.

-Yeah.

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We have something to eat, and then we dance, we listen to the music,

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and then we all go home on the bus again at ten o'clock.

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It's really good.

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And in 2015, anticipation for the event reached fever pitch

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when it was announced that none other than Tom Jones

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would be performing in the grounds of the castle.

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We were very excited.

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I remember sitting in a cafe and phoning all my friends, going,

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"Tom Jones is coming!

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"We've got to go!"

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# Sex bomb, sex bomb

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# You're my sex bomb

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# And, baby, you can turn me on... #

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And elsewhere, in Amble,

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the prospect of an appearance from the Welsh sex bomb was enough

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to persuade sisters Liz and Joan to part with £45 each

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for their first experience of a concert at Alnwick Castle.

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We just heard about it. "Oh, the atmosphere's brilliant,

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"you should go to one of these concerts."

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We were up for, like, loud music and bopping.

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Joan has problems with her mobility,

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but she still likes to get out as much as possible.

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Even though I've got MS, I don't like it to stop me doing things

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and I do other things like go to football matches at Newcastle

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and things like that, so it was just like, "Let's do it."

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Aye, let's do it.

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Chris spotted in the local newspaper

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that the promoters of this particular concert,

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Loose Cannon Events Management,

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had introduced different rules from those at the concerts

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they'd previously been to at this venue.

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It was by chance we found out

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that no food allowed within the venue area, within the event.

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That meant not just an end to their usual picnic, but,

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as they discovered on the day,

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concert goers couldn't even take in drinking water.

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I had a bottle of water and that was confiscated

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and that was not a good start.

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We even said to the lad on the gate, "Look, it's just water.

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"Do you want to test it?"

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In case he thought we were smuggling gin or something in.

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We were searched as we went in,

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which resulted in huge, huge long queues

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so we were waiting for about an hour to get in,

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so that made a lot of people, before the concert even started,

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really quite frustrated with it.

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And the disappointments continued when they got inside.

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Joan made her way to the front of the stage on her mobility scooter,

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only to be sent to the back of the crowd by the security staff.

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The lady actually said, "This is for standing people only,"

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which wasn't very good, you know.

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So, we had to go to the back and I think we were probably

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nearly as far back as anybody could be.

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Josephine and Chris also found themselves a long way from the stage

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where the sound was so poor,

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they could barely identify the supporting acts.

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Couldn't hear a thing. Couldn't hear a word.

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We didn't know who was on the stage.

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There were no screens at the side of the stage as there had been

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in previous years so we couldn't see the performer on the stage.

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And it didn't get any better when the man himself made his appearance.

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If you asked me what he was wearing,

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I couldn't tell you because we couldn't see.

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-We certainly couldn't have thrown anything on the stage!

-No!

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-Not that we had planned to.

-No.

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No, no!

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# And turn on the lights... #

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And, finally, after about 50 minutes, disaster struck.

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All the power went off.

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-Like if someone had just pulled the plug.

-Everything just went black.

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-Boomf!

-Yeah.

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The generators had blown, plunging everyone into darkness

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and the Welsh crooner was escorted off the stage.

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The manager came on and just said, "The concert is cancelled,"

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and Tom Jones just went out the back door.

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Leaving a crowd of about 8,000 people to make their way

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over the pitch-black fields to the green, green grass of home.

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And then you've got to find your way out, in darkness, to the main gate.

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There are cars moving across the field, there are...

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It was utter chaos.

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There are people carrying picnic equipment, babies, wheelchairs.

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That wasn't ideal for anybody, but especially not on a scooter.

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We did save a few people's lives

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because she had a light on her scooter

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so people were following her.

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Actually, by the time we got out of the pastures,

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we were a bit traumatised, weren't we?

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Local MP Anne-Marie Trevelyan was also at the concert that night

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and she's been campaigning ever since for her fellow music fans

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to get their money back.

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I feel very strongly that the punters who were there

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with their families and kids were short-changed.

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It was not what we all expected,

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it was a partial Tom Jones concert in a very unsafe environment

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with very unsatisfactory service provision

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and that was not what people paid a lot of money to go and see.

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But, unfortunately,

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there is no specific legal definition of how much

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has to go wrong at an event like this before the promoters

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have to refund the entrance fee so in this case,

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they haven't been keen to reimburse disappointed ticket holders.

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There was a proportion of the concert delivered

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and it was deemed that enough of it had been produced and given to us

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as the viewers that they'd met their obligation.

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Now, Tom Jones did put a message on his website apologising

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for the abrupt end to his concert,

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but Anne-Marie and the other disappointed ticket holders

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are in no way blaming him.

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And as the MP has continued her efforts to secure some sort

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of redress, she has managed to get refunds for many of the people

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who bought their tickets using their credit cards

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as, under consumer law, the credit card provider is jointly liable

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if you don't get what you've paid for.

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Several hundred people who I'd been in contact with

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were able eventually to get their money back,

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or a good proportion of it, through their credit card companies.

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But people who didn't pay that way,

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which I'm afraid includes both Josephine and Chris

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and Liz and Joan,

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haven't received a penny back from promoters Loose Cannon.

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The concert went wrong on the night.

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These things happen, but no-one's taking any responsibility.

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No-one's said, "That was my fault.

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"We're going to organise something else,

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"we're going to give you your money back." No-one's said anything.

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And, unfortunately, they still haven't

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because despite us putting all of this

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to the concert promoters Loose Cannon Events Management,

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we didn't receive a response.

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We did, however, also contact Northumberland County Council.

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It told us that it's carried out

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a long and detailed investigation into the organisation,

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licensing and management of the concert and, as a result,

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issued advisory letters to the event organisers

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and a number of other parties

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regarding their responsibilities over any future events.

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But the council went on to say that while it understands

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the frustrations of concert goers...

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That's yet another disappointment for the Tom Jones fans

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who feel so let down and indeed for regular visitors

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to Alnwick Castle, Josephine and Chris, who'd be rather more wary

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of splashing out on similar concerts in the future.

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If they do have another event,

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we're going to have to make sure that we know everything,

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you know, it ticks all the boxes that we want

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before we buy the ticket.

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And while Liz and Joan haven't been put off

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visiting an open-air concert, they will make sure that next time,

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they pay for it in the way that leaves their money protected

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should things go wrong.

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We'll certainly look into going to another one,

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but make sure we get everything right before we go

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and pay on our credit card and we'll get our money back!

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Yeah, cos we didn't.

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Passing your driving test is one of those watershed moments in life

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and that's the case whether you're 17 or 70.

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You've probably spent weeks or months,

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not to mention hundreds of pounds, honing your skills behind the wheel

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before finally taking that nerve-racking test.

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But the people in our next film never even got as far as that

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because the company they chose to learn with,

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which claimed to be the most liked driving school in the business,

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sometimes didn't even give them their first lesson

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and, effectively, just drove off with their cash.

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CAR ENGINE STARTS

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Taking driving lessons can be a nerve-racking experience

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for rookie drivers.

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At the very beginning, even the basics can be hard to master,

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like stopping.

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-I did that too fast.

-So, it needs to be just a bit gentler.

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-Starting again.

-Now, off your brake.

-Off.

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And, of course, learning to control the clutch.

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-ENGINE GROWLS

-Whoa! It's very finicky, yeah.

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All of which 17-year-old Charlie Young is just starting

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to get his head around.

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Come back over to the left a little bit.

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Today is his first-ever driving lesson,

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-as you may have already guessed.

-Clutch up.

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-Straighten up the steering.

-Oh, what have I done there?

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Who knows?

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And like most young men his age, he can't wait to get behind the wheel.

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What appeals about learning to drive

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is the freedom that it provides to, like, do what you want,

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drive where you want with who and it also gives you independence.

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The lessons were a birthday present from Charlie's mum Melanie.

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He just couldn't wait for his birthday to come,

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for his provisional to arrive and just to start learning to drive,

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to get out into the big, wide world and be himself.

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But the lessons Charlie's taking today

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aren't the first ones Melanie forked out for.

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In May, she signed Charlie up with a firm called Drive Dynamics,

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which describes itself as...

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And when Melanie checked out its website, she was impressed.

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It's the competitive prices that draws you in first of all.

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The testimonials all looked really good.

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They post pictures of people who have passed their tests

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and the fact that you can pay for the practical test as well

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and they keep a couple of lessons back out the package for test week

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so you think, "OK, everything's geared up for that test.

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"That's what they're aiming for."

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Melanie paid £378 for 20 lessons and a theory test

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and Drive Dynamics told her a local instructor would be in touch

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in the next five days to book Charlie's first lesson.

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But that call never came,

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despite Melanie e-mailing and phoning the company about the delay.

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Meanwhile, Charlie was getting desperate to start driving.

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So, with no response after more than a week,

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Melanie e-mailed and asked for her money back.

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I didn't want to deal with a company that I had to chase

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for a service that I'd paid for. I heard nothing back.

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I e-mailed them again. A few days later, I telephoned them.

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I spoke to somebody in customer services

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who said that somebody should call me back.

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But Melanie had no joy getting either her refund or the lessons

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she'd paid for despite some very determined efforts.

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I've sent over 90 e-mails now.

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Meanwhile, Charlie was no further down the road to passing his test.

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I am rather disappointed about the situation, because, by just taking

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the money and not providing the lessons in return, it's not right.

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Well, Melanie and Charlie

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are far from the only Drive Dynamics customers we've heard about

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whose lessons never even got into first gear.

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Plenty of other people didn't get them either,

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despite the company being paid upfront -

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among them, Terri Hughes from Derby.

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Like Charlie, she got a course of driving lessons as a present -

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this time for Christmas from her dad.

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She was desperate to expand her small fashion and jewellery business

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and needed to drive in order to meet clients and suppliers.

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It's one thing to just send them an e-mail and say,

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"Hey, look at my collection."

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But it's another thing to actually be there in front of them

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showing them it and being able to answer their questions directly,

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and they can actually feel the fabrics and feel the clothing

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and see the quality of it.

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So, Terri used the money from her dad to book

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a course of ten lessons from Drive Dynamics -

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again after being impressed by the low prices

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and positive reviews she saw on the company's website.

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So, I booked a group of ten lessons with a theory test included.

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I paid straightaway

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and then got an e-mail straightaway from them as well saying,

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"Thank you for booking with us.

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"We'll be in touch with you soon

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"once we've allocated you an instructor."

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Obviously, I was excited, thinking, "Great, I've booked my lessons.

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"They're going to be in touch with me soon, within a few days,

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"and I'll be on the road soon."

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But a week passed with no further word from Drive Dynamics,

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so Terri gave the company a call.

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So, I just said to him,

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"I've booked my lessons and had a confirmation, so I know it's booked.

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"The money has been taken

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"so I was just wondering what's going to happen.

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"When am I going to hear from my instructor?

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"When do I get to book my lessons in?"

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And he just reassured me.

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He said, "Not to worry. It takes a few days for the funds to clear.

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"Once the funds have cleared, we'll be in touch."

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Terri thought that a little odd because she knew the funds

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had cleared already, but she gave Drive Dynamics

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the benefit of the doubt and waited a few more days

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before calling and e-mailing again.

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But the company didn't bother to respond, even when she'd

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abandoned hope of getting the lessons and just wanted a refund.

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This is now six months later and I've given up, really, to be honest.

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I don't think I'm ever going to see the money again.

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Terri felt that Drive Dynamics had washed their hands of her,

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and one possible explanation for why that might be

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can be found in its terms and conditions,

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because, even though customers pay the company directly

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for upcoming lessons, it's claimed that their contracts

0:17:340:17:38

are actually with the independent driving instructor

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Drive Dynamics appoints to teach them,

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and if, for whatever reason,

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those instructors choose not to get in touch,

0:17:450:17:48

the wannabe learner is left high and dry,

0:17:480:17:50

having paid upfront for their lessons.

0:17:500:17:53

I just didn't understand why they wouldn't even tell me

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what was happening with it and what they were doing with my money.

0:17:560:18:00

It was so frustrating.

0:18:000:18:02

When their refund requests went unanswered,

0:18:020:18:04

both Melanie and Terri did a bit of digging into Drive Dynamics.

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Although they'd both checked out the reviews

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on the company's own website,

0:18:100:18:12

neither had looked into the host of mainly negative reviews

0:18:120:18:15

found elsewhere online.

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Since this experience, I have looked online.

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I've looked closer into more reviews and they're awful.

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I wish I had done this before.

0:18:240:18:26

But there's so many people out there that have had bad experiences

0:18:260:18:29

that are also waiting for their money back.

0:18:290:18:31

I wish I had checked with them first,

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because I wouldn't have touched them.

0:18:330:18:35

I was really frustrated with myself

0:18:350:18:38

that I'd stupidly just fallen for the good reviews

0:18:380:18:41

that they had on their own website

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and didn't actually bother to search anywhere else,

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so I blame myself a bit for being so naive.

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When we looked further into Drive Dynamics,

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we found that all isn't quite as it seems, because, for one thing,

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the company that used to operate as Drive Dynamics,

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which was called Kan Kan Ltd, went into liquidation in July 2015,

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because it had too many debts to be a viable company.

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Before it was closed,

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the directors of that business set up a new one

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which also used the trading name Drive Dynamics,

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and it was this new company that Terri and Charlie thought

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they'd be having their lessons with.

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As a business owner myself,

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I would never treat customers the way that they've treated me,

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and I hope that they don't do it in the future.

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But when we contacted Drive Dynamics

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the company was keen to stress

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it had plenty of satisfied drivers, too.

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It told us that, each week, it handles...

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And it works hard to ensure clients get "a first-rate service."

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It's apologised for what it calls the "rare occasions"

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when it doesn't meet expectations,

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but says it's keen to learn from such experiences and

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has rolled out a "a raft of improvements"

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to its aftersales and customer care,

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in order to not just "enhance communications and response times",

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but also "rapidly reduce the timescale for refunds being made".

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And the good news is that both the cases we investigated

0:20:100:20:12

have now received their money back in full.

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Back in Coventry,

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Terri says she'll be using the money to pay for lessons

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with a different company,

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so she can start getting her samples out

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to those all-important trade shows.

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Going ahead in the future with my business...

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I'm still determined to do it.

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Obviously, once I can drive, I'll be going at it as much as I can

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and doing as many events as possible.

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Meanwhile, Charlie is at last getting behind the wheel.

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It might be slow progress, but,

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however long or short the journey, half a mile or a thousand,

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it always starts the same way.

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Charlie, check your mirrors.

0:20:480:20:49

-Check your blind spots.

-No-one's there...

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Over your shoulder. Are we good?

0:20:500:20:52

Signal that we're moving off.

0:20:520:20:54

'I'm happy that I'm finally able to get on to the road'

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and actually start learning how to drive like the rest of my friends.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain...

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The wedding photographer who plenty of newlyweds say

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took money for pictures that she simply has not delivered.

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She can't go around doing this to a number of couples

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and ruining everybody's big day.

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She can't take away memories like that.

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Our pop-up shop is back, and, this time,

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we took our consumer advice clinic to Manchester's Trafford Centre.

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And, of course, our top team of experts pulled out the stops

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to try and solve your problems on the spot.

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-We think we can come up with a solution for you.

-Thank you.

0:21:430:21:46

No problem at all.

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Among those who came in for advice was Jennina.

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She came to see Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook to talk about

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a rather expensive watch that turned out to be faulty.

0:21:550:21:59

Hello, Jennina. How can I help you today?

0:22:000:22:02

I've been having some problems returning my son's watch.

0:22:020:22:05

Jennina had sent the watch off to be repaired, but, six months on,

0:22:050:22:09

it still hasn't been returned,

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leaving her £325 out of pocket.

0:22:110:22:15

It's extremely frustrating.

0:22:150:22:17

I've had numerous conversations over the phone

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and I wasn't getting anywhere.

0:22:190:22:21

-OK. And have you put anything in writing to them yet?

-I have.

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-On many occasions.

-To whom have you addressed the letter?

0:22:240:22:27

-I've just basically e-mailed...

-OK, so you've just done e-mail.

0:22:270:22:31

The problem with e-mails is that anybody picks up an e-mail,

0:22:310:22:34

different people see it, they don't link everything together,

0:22:340:22:37

so what you now need to do is you need to put something in writing.

0:22:370:22:40

Keep a copy of it. Send it recorded delivery, sending it to head office.

0:22:400:22:44

You say exactly what was wrong, when you bought it,

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how much you paid for it, what the problem was,

0:22:460:22:49

and you cannot understand

0:22:490:22:51

how they could possibly not manage to repair this in a reasonable time.

0:22:510:22:55

Send it to the chief executive's office. Go right to the top.

0:22:550:22:58

Sylvia also advised sending a copy of her complaint letter

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to the manufacturer - a high-end designer label -

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to help further her case.

0:23:040:23:06

If you don't get it back and you don't get it repaired,

0:23:060:23:08

then you're going to have to start thinking about whether you can

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pursue them through the courts for the cost of the watch,

0:23:110:23:13

-cos you don't have the watch any more.

-No.

0:23:130:23:15

-That's great advice.

-Do you think that will help?

-I do.

0:23:150:23:17

-Thanks very much.

-All right. Good luck.

-Thank you.

0:23:170:23:20

As always, the best bit of our two days at the shopping centre

0:23:200:23:23

was meeting as many of you as we could.

0:23:230:23:26

Oh, thank you. Do I get all of these?

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Marvellous.

0:23:290:23:30

And when Karen Goodwin heard about our pop-up shop,

0:23:300:23:33

she was keen to book in for some expert advice

0:23:330:23:36

on an expensive purchase that had gone badly wrong.

0:23:360:23:39

On hand to help were solicitor Gary Rycroft

0:23:390:23:42

and Martyn James from the Financial Ombudsman Service.

0:23:420:23:45

So, Karen, I know that you've got a big problem with your kitchen,

0:23:450:23:48

-haven't you?

-Yep.

-Would you like to tell them what happened?

0:23:480:23:51

'Karen had initially been quoted around £5,000 for a new kitchen, including fitting.

0:23:510:23:57

'The cost, however, then spiralled

0:23:570:23:59

'to more than she'd planned to spend.'

0:23:590:24:01

When we went to the showroom to sign up, he said,

0:24:020:24:05

"It's going to cost nearly 9,000."

0:24:050:24:08

But it was a kitchen that we wanted,

0:24:080:24:10

so we decided to go for it on 12 months, interest free...

0:24:100:24:15

'With a credit plan that made the purchase feasible,

0:24:160:24:19

'Karen paid the deposit of £895,

0:24:190:24:21

'and - at first, at least - things went smoothly.'

0:24:210:24:25

They came. They delivered the goods. Perfect.

0:24:250:24:28

But, once they fitted the kitchen, it was just not acceptable.

0:24:280:24:33

All the worktops weren't matching.

0:24:330:24:36

They blamed it on the fitters,

0:24:360:24:38

so they ordered a new lot of worktops,

0:24:380:24:42

and again they didn't match, and then they refitted the worktops,

0:24:420:24:47

and again they didn't match.

0:24:470:24:49

Gosh, how many times was this, then? This is three times?

0:24:490:24:52

I'm on to my fourth lot of worktops and I've still not got it fixed.

0:24:520:24:56

Outrageous, isn't it?

0:24:560:24:57

This has just been a series of disasters, really, hasn't it?

0:24:570:25:01

'But Martyn says that, because Karen entered into

0:25:010:25:03

'a credit arrangement to finance the kitchen,

0:25:030:25:05

'she may have extra rights now that things aren't up to scratch.'

0:25:050:25:09

Often with credit agreements,

0:25:090:25:11

the default setting for many providers of these services

0:25:110:25:14

is to just try to repair and replace,

0:25:140:25:16

but I think sometimes you just need someone pragmatic to step in and go,

0:25:160:25:21

"This isn't working. Let's just call it quits."

0:25:210:25:23

So, let's get on the phone to the credit provider.

0:25:230:25:26

'Gary's also confident that Karen has a good case,

0:25:260:25:30

'and he thinks she may have legal expenses cover

0:25:300:25:32

'through her buildings insurance,

0:25:320:25:34

'which would make pursuing the company through the courts

0:25:340:25:37

'a realistic and affordable option.'

0:25:370:25:40

The legal position seems really, really clear,

0:25:400:25:42

and you've got good evidence here of the fact that you do not have

0:25:420:25:47

a kitchen that is of satisfactory quality,

0:25:470:25:49

so you do have a valid legal claim.

0:25:490:25:53

Yeah, definitely.

0:25:530:25:54

-Lovely to meet you.

-Thank you.

0:25:540:25:56

Since then, the company has agreed to pay for another new worktop,

0:25:560:26:00

and they've reimbursed Karen

0:26:000:26:02

for some damage that the installers caused,

0:26:020:26:05

but, still not completely happy,

0:26:050:26:07

Karen's asked the Financial Ombudsman Service

0:26:070:26:09

to review her case and she's waiting for a final decision.

0:26:090:26:12

Now, in between all the advice at our pop-up shop,

0:26:130:26:16

we always make time for a photo or a chat.

0:26:160:26:18

'But, when we met Steve and Pam, we also seized the opportunity

0:26:210:26:24

'to share some particularly useful tips

0:26:240:26:27

'from Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook.'

0:26:270:26:30

-Can I just ask you both, have you ever bought a second-hand car?

-Yes.

0:26:300:26:34

-When?

-Um, about two weeks ago.

0:26:340:26:36

We actually went to get some new tyres for my car,

0:26:360:26:38

and, while we were waiting for the tyres to be fitted,

0:26:380:26:41

-Pam went and bought a new car.

-Bought a new car?

0:26:410:26:44

THEY LAUGH

0:26:440:26:46

Expensive tyres.

0:26:460:26:48

Do you reckon you know all of your rights

0:26:480:26:50

-with regard to that car and how you bought it?

-No, probably not.

-No.

0:26:500:26:54

Well, you see, this lady is called Sylvia Rook,

0:26:540:26:56

-and she's from Trading Standards.

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:26:560:26:58

-And she knows all the answers.

-How did you pay?

-Debit card.

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I would recommend,

0:27:020:27:03

if you have a credit card, and you can pay it off,

0:27:030:27:06

that you put it on a credit card,

0:27:060:27:07

cos, if you have a problem with the car

0:27:070:27:09

and the garage won't sort it, the credit card company has to.

0:27:090:27:12

Even down to just putting a pound on your credit card,

0:27:120:27:14

the credit card company takes responsibility.

0:27:140:27:16

So, that gives you extra protection...

0:27:160:27:19

I think that's something a lot of people probably don't know.

0:27:190:27:21

They think they have to pay for it all in full.

0:27:210:27:23

-That is very interesting.

-Well, I'm glad we've been able to help.

0:27:230:27:26

Thank you very much.

0:27:260:27:27

Now, it might be a cliche, but - for me, at least -

0:27:300:27:32

it really is true that your wedding day

0:27:320:27:35

is one of the happiest days of your life -

0:27:350:27:37

even if, over the years, you end up having more than one of them -

0:27:370:27:40

and, with the pictures being one of the few parts of the day

0:27:400:27:43

that WILL last forever,

0:27:430:27:44

it's vital that you choose a photographer you trust

0:27:440:27:47

to get it right.

0:27:470:27:48

But when the couple in our next film -

0:27:480:27:50

not to mention the many other brides and grooms we've heard from -

0:27:500:27:53

chose a professional to capture all those memories of their big day,

0:27:530:27:57

I'm afraid the lasting memories they ended up with

0:27:570:28:00

were the opposite of what they'd really hoped for.

0:28:000:28:03

Traditional Asian weddings

0:28:040:28:06

can be some of the most elaborate and colourful marriage ceremonies

0:28:060:28:10

celebrated in the UK,

0:28:100:28:11

but, however wonderful the day itself is,

0:28:110:28:13

most couples are going to want a wedding album

0:28:130:28:16

to look back and relive every detail and every memory,

0:28:160:28:19

especially if that's what they've paid for.

0:28:190:28:22

But that's not how Sarah and Noah say things turned out for them,

0:28:220:28:25

after tying the knot back in 2014 in Stoke-on-Trent.

0:28:250:28:29

We had a guest list of 1,200 people and it was a huge wedding.

0:28:300:28:36

We had people from all over the country.

0:28:360:28:38

The couple were first introduced to each other back in July 2013

0:28:420:28:46

by their parents, and, within three months, the wedding date was booked,

0:28:460:28:50

and Sarah began planning what she hoped would be the perfect day.

0:28:500:28:54

I think, for anybody, their wedding is the biggest day of their life.

0:28:540:28:58

It's something that they absolutely look forward to.

0:28:580:29:01

As you know, any big wedding comes with

0:29:020:29:04

a hefty price tag and paying for a top-notch wedding photographer

0:29:040:29:08

is always one of the costliest parts of any bride's big day.

0:29:080:29:12

I wanted to get the right photographer

0:29:120:29:15

because it's really important to get every moment captured

0:29:150:29:19

and to have somebody who knows how to do the job,

0:29:190:29:21

so you've got those memories forever.

0:29:210:29:24

With such a grand wedding planned,

0:29:240:29:27

it was very important for Sarah that she had a photographer,

0:29:270:29:29

not just of the highest calibre, but who also knew of the intricacies

0:29:290:29:33

of Sarah's and Noah's traditional Muslim ceremony.

0:29:330:29:37

And when they came across Sharan Sandhu online,

0:29:370:29:40

Sarah was convinced that she was spot-on for the job.

0:29:400:29:43

On her website, the portfolios, the pictures,

0:29:440:29:47

the short entries of videos, it really looks like

0:29:470:29:50

it was something that she's very, very good at.

0:29:500:29:53

I was expecting a really high standard service from her.

0:29:530:29:57

The package would include DVDs of highlights

0:29:570:30:00

of both the pre-marriage mehndi and, of course, the wedding itself,

0:30:000:30:04

plus specially printed photo albums, but, of course,

0:30:040:30:07

it would all come at a price.

0:30:070:30:10

Over some negotiation, we agreed to £1,200.

0:30:100:30:13

I thought it was something that, it was certainly dear,

0:30:130:30:16

but I'd get value for my money.

0:30:160:30:19

After months of preparation,

0:30:200:30:22

Sarah and Noah's wedding day finally arrived.

0:30:220:30:25

I was looking my absolute best and my whole family was there

0:30:250:30:28

and everything was perfect.

0:30:280:30:31

The photographer certainly made me feel

0:30:310:30:33

like it's the best day of my life

0:30:330:30:35

and I've got it for a lifetime to look back at and remember.

0:30:350:30:38

Well, that was how things were supposed to work out.

0:30:380:30:41

Sarah just couldn't wait to see the professional pictures from Sharan,

0:30:410:30:44

which she had been promised

0:30:440:30:46

would be uploaded to a website two weeks later,

0:30:460:30:48

so that she and Noah could choose the shots they wanted.

0:30:480:30:51

We thought, "We'll settle down, we'll have a look at the pictures,

0:30:510:30:54

"the videos, see who was there, see what we're looking like,

0:30:540:30:57

"the poses, the food, the lights, everything."

0:30:570:31:00

However, the first hitch came when it took not two weeks,

0:31:000:31:03

but two months, for the photographs to be uploaded.

0:31:030:31:07

She uploaded some pictures onto a website,

0:31:070:31:10

said, "Pick what you want and then I'll send out the albums."

0:31:100:31:14

Finally, Sarah and Noah were able to look back on their wedding day,

0:31:140:31:18

without having to rely on their relatives' snaps.

0:31:180:31:21

The professional photographs brought memories flooding back,

0:31:210:31:23

but the couple say before they had sufficient time to select the ones

0:31:230:31:27

they wanted for their albums, the site simply disappeared.

0:31:270:31:31

So, despite paying £1,200 for three albums and DVDs of the wedding,

0:31:310:31:36

they just didn't have anything to show for it and Sarah says

0:31:360:31:40

when she chased the photographer up, she struggled to get in touch.

0:31:400:31:44

Initially I thought, you know, it... She might be busy with other events.

0:31:440:31:48

I then started to text her, e-mail her, phone her,

0:31:480:31:52

leave voicemails and when she repeatedly failed to contact me,

0:31:520:31:56

I started to get a little bit worried and I thought,

0:31:560:31:59

"Something's going wrong."

0:31:590:32:01

So, frustrated with all the toing and froing,

0:32:010:32:03

Sarah started looking into reviews of the photographer online

0:32:030:32:07

and was alarmed to see other couples

0:32:070:32:09

who appear to have had similar difficulties.

0:32:090:32:12

I found a lot of other couples who were also in the same position as me

0:32:120:32:16

and that's when it started to...

0:32:160:32:18

you know, the questions started to arise.

0:32:180:32:21

Sarah continued to chase Sharan and finally, some months later,

0:32:210:32:25

after more hassles and delays,

0:32:250:32:27

the photographer did send the couple their photos and their wedding DVDs,

0:32:270:32:31

but the photos were on a CD-ROM,

0:32:310:32:33

not the printed albums that Sarah and Noah had paid for,

0:32:330:32:37

and the wedding videos, well, they wouldn't play properly.

0:32:370:32:41

And it wasn't until March 2016,

0:32:410:32:43

two years after the wedding,

0:32:430:32:45

that DVDs that Sarah was able to watch finally arrived

0:32:450:32:49

and, despite the long wait, she was happy to, at last, have something

0:32:490:32:53

to show her family and friends.

0:32:530:32:54

Getting the two DVDs after so long felt as though,

0:32:560:33:01

"At least I've got a video to show."

0:33:010:33:04

But two and a half years after the wedding,

0:33:040:33:06

they still haven't got everything they paid for.

0:33:060:33:08

As yet, there remains no sign of the wedding albums they were promised.

0:33:080:33:13

We still haven't got anything close to what we should have.

0:33:130:33:16

We should never have had this nightmare.

0:33:160:33:19

And, for Sarah, there's another reason why she feels what

0:33:190:33:22

they have just came too late.

0:33:220:33:24

One of the worst things that did happen is that the...

0:33:240:33:28

my videos and the photos, my grandma, my nan,

0:33:280:33:31

were not able to see.

0:33:310:33:32

They were the key people at the wedding as well as my family,

0:33:320:33:36

but it's something that I really would have liked them to see

0:33:360:33:39

before they passed on.

0:33:390:33:41

And, sadly, they didn't.

0:33:410:33:43

We've spoken to several other brides who say they had

0:33:430:33:46

the same erratic service after choosing Sharan Sandhu

0:33:460:33:50

to capture their big day.

0:33:500:33:52

Bejali and her husband Bahrad paid £4,500

0:33:520:33:56

for photos and videos of their wedding,

0:33:560:33:58

but they, too, say they haven't received everything they expected.

0:33:580:34:01

Nosheen and Shazad paid Sharan Sandhu £2,000

0:34:160:34:19

to film and edit their wedding video,

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but it took 15 months and the threat of legal action

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before the photographer handed over the unedited footage.

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When we contacted Sharan Sandhu,

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she disputed most of what her customers had told us

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and totally denied failing

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to deliver photographs and videos to these couples.

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In the case of Sarah and Noah, in particular,

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she told us that she was waiting for the couple to confirm the photos

0:34:430:34:47

they wanted in their albums before the order could be completed.

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But Sarah says the photos were taken down from Sharan Sandhu's website

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before she even had time to choose them.

0:34:560:34:59

Since we filmed with her,

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Sarah told us that she and Sharan have reached an agreement

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and the matter is now resolved,

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but while the photographer's representatives might have hoped

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that that would mean we didn't feature the case,

0:35:100:35:12

we can't forget how angry Sarah was when she first came to us.

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I think that what happened really dampened my mood.

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Being newly wed, you don't want to chase a photographer,

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you want to enjoy your first few months,

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or the year of being married,

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whereas I had to chase her

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and I constantly had it at the back of my mind

0:35:300:35:34

that my images and the videos may never arrive.

0:35:340:35:37

Back at our pop-up shop,

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it certainly felt that this year our team of experts was hearing

0:35:460:35:49

more of your stories than ever before,

0:35:490:35:51

so we can't blame our technology guru David McClelland

0:35:510:35:54

for taking a quick breather.

0:35:540:35:56

David, looks like as if you're having a break.

0:35:570:35:59

Ah, I am, but I tell you what,

0:35:590:36:00

I've not had a rest for the whole of the pop-up shop.

0:36:000:36:03

-Well, that's terrific.

-I don't think we've ever been busier.

-No.

0:36:030:36:06

I certainly haven't been as busy as I have in the last few days.

0:36:060:36:08

What sort of things have people been coming in with?

0:36:080:36:11

A lot of people have been complaining about spam.

0:36:110:36:13

I think this is where we have a real issue. The UK, in particular,

0:36:130:36:17

-is receiving more phishing e-mails, targeted e-mails...

-Why is that?

0:36:170:36:21

-..than any other country at the moment.

-Why do you think that is?

0:36:210:36:23

Your guess is as good as mine, but the facts are absolutely there.

0:36:230:36:27

We are more likely, in Britain, to be targeted by fraudsters

0:36:270:36:30

by any electronic means than any other country.

0:36:300:36:33

And it was exactly those sort of e-mails

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that were worrying Rod and Elaine.

0:36:350:36:37

Rod's seen a huge increase in the spam messages he's getting

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and he's been particularly confused by the ones

0:36:410:36:43

that appear to have been sent by himself.

0:36:430:36:45

I'm getting a heck of a lot of spam, I am. 100 on there.

0:36:450:36:48

You're getting that many?

0:36:480:36:50

And the ones that concern me are the ones that are from me,

0:36:500:36:52

as though I've sent this e-mail and I haven't.

0:36:520:36:55

Any ideas at all about why he's getting spam from himself?

0:36:550:36:59

The reason that the scammers will use your own contact details is

0:36:590:37:02

because if you're receiving that,

0:37:020:37:04

you're more likely to read it if it's from somebody who you know.

0:37:040:37:06

So, it's in the scammers' interest to make the e-mails look

0:37:060:37:09

as familiar as possible.

0:37:090:37:10

And, of course, your own e-mail address

0:37:100:37:12

can be very easy for spammers to track down.

0:37:120:37:14

Unfortunately for you,

0:37:140:37:16

and this is one of the more extreme cases that I've seen,

0:37:160:37:18

your e-mail address appears to have made its way onto a number of lists

0:37:180:37:22

and these lists are shared amongst spam networks

0:37:220:37:25

and, as a result of that, you are being bombarded,

0:37:250:37:29

-it's fair to say, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:37:290:37:31

I was just going to ask you how frustrating you find the situation.

0:37:310:37:35

Well, it's just annoying.

0:37:350:37:37

Certainly something that I would look at if I were you

0:37:370:37:39

is to make sure that the antivirus on your computer is up to date,

0:37:390:37:44

all security patches are up to date,

0:37:440:37:46

because if your computer is infected, it could be exacerbating

0:37:460:37:49

the problem by sending out spam on behalf of these spam networks.

0:37:490:37:53

'David also recommends being doubly sure that your spam filters are on

0:37:530:37:57

'and if that doesn't reduced the amount of junk mail received,

0:37:570:38:01

'well, there is a more drastic measure Rod could take.'

0:38:010:38:04

Try a new e-mail address.

0:38:040:38:05

It's a bit of a pain to tell certain people that you've changed

0:38:050:38:08

e-mail address, but keep both running for a little while

0:38:080:38:11

and eventually gradually move over to the new one.

0:38:110:38:13

'But in the end, David says that like the junk mail

0:38:130:38:16

'that comes through your letterbox, spam e-mails in his inbox

0:38:160:38:19

'may just be something that Rod has to accept.'

0:38:190:38:22

It is a kind of a fact of life, of the age that we live in,

0:38:220:38:24

and the fact that, you know,

0:38:240:38:25

these fraudsters, these scammers, are out there.

0:38:250:38:27

-I hope that's been of some use.

-It really has.

0:38:270:38:29

-Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you.

-Thanks a lot, David.

0:38:290:38:32

-Nice to see you.

-Thank you, Gloria.

0:38:320:38:33

And you can find more of David's tips for keeping your e-mails safe

0:38:340:38:38

on our website. That's...

0:38:380:38:39

Next in for some help was Dave Williams

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who came to see Martyn James from the Financial Ombudsman Service

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about a persistent case of mistaken identity.

0:38:510:38:54

It all started about five and a half years ago

0:38:540:38:58

when I noticed an error in my account

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and then it became evident that I was linked to another person.

0:39:000:39:04

Dave's bank had another customer also called Dave Williams

0:39:040:39:08

with the same date of birth

0:39:080:39:09

and it had inadvertently confused their accounts.

0:39:090:39:13

The trouble was the other Dave Williams's balance

0:39:130:39:15

wasn't quite as healthy as this Dave's, which has had

0:39:150:39:18

a very unfortunate knock-on effect on his credit rating.

0:39:180:39:22

-He's had bad credit...

-Yes.

0:39:230:39:24

..I think from the beginning of the recession cos I could see

0:39:240:39:30

all his finances on my credit file, so, basically,

0:39:300:39:33

alarm bells started ringing.

0:39:330:39:35

Although Dave asked his bank to update his details,

0:39:350:39:38

almost six years on, that original mix-up is still haunting

0:39:380:39:42

his financial records and, most recently,

0:39:420:39:45

it got very serious with debt collectors chasing Dave

0:39:450:39:48

for money that the other Dave Williams apparently owes.

0:39:480:39:51

I was contacting these debt management companies saying,

0:39:520:39:55

"Although my name is David Williams,

0:39:550:39:57

"it's not the David Williams you're looking for."

0:39:570:40:00

Despite many attempts to resolve the problem,

0:40:000:40:02

he's getting desperate and he's concerned that debt collectors

0:40:020:40:06

will start seizing his belongings to repay a debt

0:40:060:40:08

that he just doesn't owe, but Martyn is confident he can help.

0:40:080:40:12

We can deal with the debt collectors really easily,

0:40:120:40:14

the debt managers, don't worry about the impact on your credit rating.

0:40:140:40:18

We can get all of that sorted out.

0:40:180:40:19

The most important thing is to make sure that this stops,

0:40:190:40:21

once and for all.

0:40:210:40:23

We can speak to the credit reference agencies and we can get them

0:40:230:40:26

to put what's known as a letter of disassociation on your file

0:40:260:40:30

and I think we'll also ask them

0:40:300:40:31

to look at the impact that this has had on you.

0:40:310:40:33

This is it. It's just... Well, it's not very good. We're not...

0:40:330:40:37

Myself and my partner and my children

0:40:370:40:39

are not in a really good position because of all this, really.

0:40:390:40:42

I think you've been incredibly reasonable.

0:40:420:40:44

I would be a lot more angry than you are.

0:40:440:40:46

I've had my angry moments, but... it's not getting me nowhere.

0:40:460:40:50

-Well, I'll get onto that first thing.

-All right.

0:40:500:40:52

-Thanks very much for coming in.

-Thank you.

0:40:520:40:54

-And, hopefully, you'll never have to speak to me ever again.

-Yeah.

0:40:540:40:57

Yeah, OK.

0:40:570:40:58

Since we filmed with Dave, there's been some fantastic progress.

0:41:000:41:04

Two of the banks involved with Dave's credit file,

0:41:040:41:06

along with the debt collection agency wrongly chasing him for debts

0:41:060:41:09

he didn't owe,

0:41:090:41:11

have all paid out compensation to the tune of over £1,000 in total.

0:41:110:41:16

And his own bank assures him

0:41:160:41:17

it's done everything it can to make sure this doesn't happen again.

0:41:170:41:22

So, while Dave will still be keeping a very close eye on his credit file,

0:41:220:41:25

he feels much better now that Martyn's team has investigated

0:41:250:41:29

and it's another great result from our pop-up shop.

0:41:290:41:32

If you got a story you'd like us to investigate,

0:41:380:41:40

then you can get in touch with us

0:41:400:41:42

via our Facebook page "BBC Rip Off Britain",

0:41:420:41:45

our website, bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain

0:41:450:41:50

or e-mail...

0:41:500:41:52

..and, of course, you can always send us

0:41:550:41:57

a letter to our postal address, which is...

0:41:570:42:00

Not getting what you paid for is bad enough at the best of times,

0:42:120:42:15

but when you've got so much riding on it,

0:42:150:42:18

like your first driving lesson or a big event

0:42:180:42:20

for which you've got such high hopes,

0:42:200:42:22

well, it really is a kick in the teeth when it goes wrong, isn't it?

0:42:220:42:26

It sure is and when your expectations are so high,

0:42:260:42:29

even if you can get your money back,

0:42:290:42:31

it doesn't really make up for what's gone wrong,

0:42:310:42:33

so if you find yourself in a situation

0:42:330:42:35

like any of the people in today's programme,

0:42:350:42:37

then do please let us know because we all hate it when you lose out,

0:42:370:42:41

but we do, of course, at the same time, hope that we can help.

0:42:410:42:44

So, keep your letters coming.

0:42:440:42:46

We really do appreciate every one of them and who knows?

0:42:460:42:49

It could be your experience

0:42:490:42:50

we're looking into in one of our future programmes.

0:42:500:42:53

For now, though, that's where we have to leave it, so thank you

0:42:530:42:55

very much for your company and we'll see you again very soon.

0:42:550:42:58

-Till then, from all of us, goodbye.

-Bye.

-Goodbye.

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