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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off,

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch.

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We're all just numbers, aren't we, at the end of the day?

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Profit comes before anything else, and that's all that matters.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money

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and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair.

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Why can't they all just give it you at the price it should be?

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They don't, they just try and charge as much as they can...

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And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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When it comes to actual customer service, it's dreadful.

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So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake,

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we're here to find out why you're out of pocket

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money...

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This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

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where today we're going to be hearing about scams and crimes

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that are not just breathtakingly brazen,

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but also terrifyingly simple.

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And they're all to do with something that's fast becoming a threat that,

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really, every single one of us needs to be on our guard against -

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-ID fraud.

-As we'll see,

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fraudsters sometimes need only the smallest of details about identity

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to commit their crimes.

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And you may have no idea that they've got hold of your personal

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information until it's too late.

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That was what happened in what has to be one of the most jaw-dropping

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cases we've ever featured on this programme.

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And just wait till you hear it. I guarantee that once you have,

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you'll be making checks to ensure the same can't happen to you,

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which, of course, is what today's programme is all about -

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making sure you have everything you need to know to avoid making life

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easier for the criminals, so that all of those valuable

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bits and pieces of your information can't end up in their hands.

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Coming up,

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how fraudsters set out to steal not just this man's identity,

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but also his home -

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and they very nearly got away with it.

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It does still shock me,

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and I just hope that it doesn't happen to other people,

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and other people don't have to go through this.

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And behind the scenes with the police team

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cracking down on the fraudsters who are making fake ID to order.

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You've got hologram features, you've got watermarks,

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you've got UV, you've got cards.

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So they would be mass-producing these upon request for individuals.

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Most of us at some point have probably had an item of post

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go missing, and while it's frustrating,

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you would hope that something lost in the mail

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would have no more serious a consequence

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than perhaps just a bit of inconvenience.

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Sadly, however, that's not always the case, and there are items that,

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well, far from being simply lost,

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have somewhere along the line been deliberately stolen,

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so that someone else can get their hands on your personal details

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and then use them to their advantage.

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Well, we've looked into examples of that on this

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programme before, of course, not least in our last series,

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when we revealed how fraudsters were even attaching fake postboxes

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to people's houses in order to snaffle the mail.

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Well, the mess that those residents had to untangle was bad enough,

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but just wait till you hear about the first-class fraud

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that the man we're about to hear from was exposed to

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when his details were stolen.

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For fraudsters intent on stealing your identity,

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there can be few things quite as valuable as your post.

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And a scam we featured last year, targeting homeowners in Chorlton

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in Greater Manchester, exposed an ingenious way

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they might sometimes get hold of it.

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I noticed stuck to the wall was this metal postbox

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that I'd never seen before,

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and it had a crudely painted house number on it.

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At that moment, we realised that the letterbox had been put up

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to intercept the mail.

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In that letterbox, we had a letter from the TSB,

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saying I'd opened a new account with them and I had negotiated

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an overdraft for £1,000.

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These temporary postboxes had been attached to homes

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purely so that the crooks responsible could collect letters

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relating to accounts or loans that they'd set up fraudulently

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after stealing the identities of the real residents.

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And though in these cases it was spotted before too much damage

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could be done, one way or another, our post and where it's delivered

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can be the gateway to our most valuable details,

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because if fraudsters can get their hands on our bills

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or bank statements, there's no end to the havoc they can cause.

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And here, in the leafy suburbs of Stockport in Cheshire,

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that's something that Minh To has discovered

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after he ended up becoming the victim

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of a particularly audacious scam.

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And the scene of the crime?

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The house where he's lived for nearly 30 years,

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bringing up his family, including daughter Fiona.

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My dad bought the house, I think, a few years before I was born,

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so late '80s, around '88.

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We lived there, growing up, throughout our whole childhood,

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pretty much, so it's always been the family home,

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my dad's always loved it.

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It comes with a lot of land,

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so he's had various animals on the farm there.

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The house is really important to me and my dad.

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Minh's house is his pride and joy,

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and though his children have now grown up and moved out,

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he's never had any intention or desire to go anywhere else himself.

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He's always planned to retire here with his animals.

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It's a bungalow, and I have 11 acres of land in here.

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I have three bedrooms, very comfortable.

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It's warm and it's away from the road.

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But it's the secluded location of this house,

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and more especially where his letterbox used to be located,

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which made Minh the target of criminals.

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Here is...

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It used to be, er, the postbox.

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Minh has now moved his postbox away from the location

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to a place where it's visible from the front door.

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His old one had been completely out of sight,

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and though he believed it was secure,

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in fact criminals had found a way to fish out some of his post.

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And what they did with it is one of the single most shocking scams

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that we've ever come across.

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Because, terrifyingly, a handful of stolen utility bills

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and bank statements was all it took for fraudsters

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to try and steal his entire home from under his nose.

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And it was only by chance that his daughter Fiona,

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an estate agent in a nearby town, uncovered what was going on.

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She got the surprise of her life

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after seeing her father's much-loved home suddenly appear on the market.

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I was in work, and it was a weekend,

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and I was looking at properties that were for sale in the area,

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and I saw it had come up,

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and I knew that he would never try and sell it without telling us,

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or for the price that it was on at.

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And yet, from what Fiona could tell,

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Minh's house was being advertised as being up for sale at an auction,

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in just a few days' time.

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Confused and extremely concerned, she immediately rang her dad.

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I called my dad and I asked him what was going on,

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cos I was really shocked,

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and he said he didn't know what I was talking about at all,

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he didn't understand what was going on.

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He was wondering how it had happened,

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so we had loads of questions, and then he got quite angry,

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cos he just didn't understand how something like this could happen to him.

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Knowing he hadn't put his house up for sale,

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Minh was, understandably, totally bewildered.

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Shocking.

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Terrible feeling.

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And, er... Panicked, really.

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Something going terrible wrong here. Can't figure out... What is it?

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Fiona did some more digging,

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but she couldn't work out how her dad's property had

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come up to be for sale at an auction

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without either his knowledge or permission.

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At first, I thought maybe the estate agent that had marketed it

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hadn't, like, done the correct checks

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in regards to ID and everything.

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But then I thought, if they have done that,

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then we need to make sure that the title deeds are all correct

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and everything's fine with the Land Registry.

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As Fiona investigated further and made checks with the Land Registry,

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things got even worse. She discovered, to her horror,

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that somehow her father was no longer the legal owner.

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The house had been transferred to a complete stranger's name,

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and it was this person,

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who, at least on paper, now appeared to own the property,

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who had given the permission for the house to be listed

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and put up for auction.

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The guide price was £300,000,

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rather less than the property's true value,

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but it's easy to see that a lower price would be likely to gather

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a lot of interest at the auction in just a few days' time.

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Minh had to act fast -

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and called solicitor Paul Citron for help.

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-Hey!

-Hello.

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Hello, Paul.

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I received a telephone call from him, very upset and animated,

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to tell me that his house had been stolen.

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It took me a few seconds to grasp what he was getting at,

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although I have to say that I had never come across something quite

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so blatant and outrageous as the theft of identity,

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leading to the change of ownership of a house.

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It was quite frightening to realise how relatively easy

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it was to commit this fraud.

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Paul managed to put a stop to the sale

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and set about unpicking exactly how this could possibly have happened.

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It quickly became clear that the personal information

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that had been stolen from Minh's postbox was enough

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for criminals to forge the proof of identity that they needed

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to carry out their audacious plan.

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The way in which this fraud started was with a forged passport,

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which showed all your details, your name,

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but instead of a photograph of you,

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there was a photograph of a completely different gentleman.

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It was with a fake passport in Minh's name,

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but showing the face of one of the fraudsters instead,

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that the process of transferring ownership to the house

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to a second fraudster could begin.

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He was also able to introduce himself to a firm of solicitors,

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producing the forged passport,

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and the utility bills to evidence his identity as you.

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With no reason to suspect that anything was amiss,

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and believing, thanks to that fake ID,

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that the request was coming from Minh himself,

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the solicitors had agreed to transfer ownership of the property

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to the name requested.

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And what made this part of the fraud even easier for the criminals

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was the fact that, as Minh had paid off his mortgage

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on the property some time ago,

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there were no banks or building societies involved

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to ask any more awkward questions of the fraudsters.

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So with what seemed like astonishing ease,

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the transfer of deeds from Minh's family home to the criminals

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was complete. To cover their tracks,

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the fraudsters diverted all mail relating to the transfer elsewhere,

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meaning all the time Minh was completely unaware

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that there was anything untoward going on.

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That person then went to the estate agent's and said,

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"I'm the owner of this property now, I've just recently acquired it,

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-"and I want to sell it at auction."

-Simple as that.

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Simple as that, yeah. Frightening, really.

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Had Fiona not spotted the house on the market, quite by fluke,

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and if the property had been sold at auction,

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the whole mess could've got even more complicated still,

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with an unwitting new owner of this house entering the mix,

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by which time the fraudsters, of course,

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would've made off with the cash from the sale -

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and leaving Minh with a very difficult situation to resolve.

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It is quite conceivable that a successful bid

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would have been made for the property at auction,

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and presumably a substantial amount of money paid over

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by way of deposit,

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and indeed the purchase of the property

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by an innocent third party completed.

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Fortunately, however, the fraud was stopped dead in its tracks,

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and the men behind it were arrested.

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Atif Mahmood, on the left,

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and Saeed Ghani both admitted conspiracy to defraud.

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Ghani was sentenced to seven and a half years

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and Mahmood sentenced to two years and nine months behind bars.

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Do you want to come down?

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Now, though their actions may sound unprecedented, in fact,

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the Land Registry has stopped

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254 similar fraudulent applications on properties since 2009.

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And while the stakes were especially high in Minh's case,

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plenty more of us will have had our personal details

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targeted in some way.

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In fact, in March it was reported that cases of identity fraud

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in the UK were at their highest level since records began

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13 years ago, with almost 173,000 cases in 2016 alone.

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That figure includes online frauds and, as happened here,

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cases of people targeted through their post,

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a scenario fraud specialist Tony Blake warned about

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on this programme last year.

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There's been student properties where people's identities

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have been stolen -

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and again, communal areas where mail is just left around.

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Fraudsters are making applications for products,

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whether it be an account, or a loan, or something similar,

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in someone else's name,

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and they're having the mail sent to the genuine person's address.

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Now, they need to intercept that mail

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before the genuine customer even sees it.

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With this type of fraud on the increase,

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many police forces across the country now have dedicated teams

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to investigate cases.

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Detective Chief Inspector Nicky Porter

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leads the economic crime team for Greater Manchester Police.

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So, some of the basic ways will be about just using an implement

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to get inside the box and lift, or scoop the mail out.

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Sometimes, if the box hasn't been emptied regularly,

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the mail will build up, and if it's busting out of the box,

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it's easier for fraudsters to just literally put their hand in

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and grab that mail. And then other means would be

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just by brute force and damaging the lid or the casing to the box.

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So what they're looking for is account numbers -

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particularly useful would be credit cards, PIN numbers,

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erm, people's name and address, dates of birth.

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These are all things that a fraudster can then,

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on a future date, use and exploit.

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So Nicky has this advice

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to make sure it's not your details that the fraudsters

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get their hands on next time.

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I think, generally speaking,

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residents should be very vigilant around

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the presentation of the letterbox at their door.

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If you've got mail sticking out of the postbox,

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then somebody could just come along and grab what might appear

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to be bills or personal information.

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So it's a good thing to make sure

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that you clear that area on a regular basis.

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But many of the people who fall victims to a fraud

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do so without even realising it,

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so Nicky says keeping a close eye on your bank statements

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and checking that your personal information is safe

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-is always sound advice.

-It is wise to just check your account,

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and to go over your statements.

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Sometimes it can be just be small amounts that are taken,

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and people don't realise they've been defrauded,

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or their identity's being used till several months down the line.

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So it's always good to check out

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and keep on top of your statements and your bills.

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It's also really wise to check out anything

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that's been sent through around financial agreements

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that you're unclear about,

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or if you're not sure whether you've actually taken something out,

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then you must challenge this, or contact your bank.

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Back at home in Stockport,

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Minh now keeps a much closer eye on all his personal information,

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but his family remain horrified that this fraud could ever

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have got so far, and indeed, very nearly succeeded.

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You know, it does still shock me,

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and I just hope that it doesn't happen to other people

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and other people don't have to go through this.

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It's still quite unbelievable, as well.

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So there's a big element of it where, you know,

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if I'll be speaking to my friends about it, I still think,

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"I can't believe this has actually happened."

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Your identity is perhaps the most precious possession,

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and it seems that with just the scantest of details,

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criminals can open bank accounts, get loans,

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mortgages or credit cards, all in your name,

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then, of course, leaving you to sort out the mess.

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Well, identity theft

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is now the fastest-growing fraud in the country,

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and since my own identity was forged last year,

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and I feel very vulnerable about that,

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I'm afraid I'm not totally convinced

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that enough is being done to stop it.

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So when I was invited by the ID fraud unit at the UK's

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biggest police force, well, to see if they could convince me

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that they are beating the fraudsters, as you can guess,

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it was an offer I couldn't refuse.

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This footage, which we've shown you before, still chills me to the bone.

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These fraudsters are walking into my bank, intent on stealing my money.

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They have a fake driving licence that has my name and details on it,

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but this woman's photograph and that fake ID was all it took

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to convince bank staff to give them access to my account,

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and subsequently they stole £120,000 of my money.

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Well, after this disturbing and, quite frankly,

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frustrating incident in my case with the bank,

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I have to admit that I'm very, very sceptical

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about what security measures are in place generally

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to stop these criminals getting away with it.

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Because when you're the victim of a crime

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and the criminals, as in my case, are still at large,

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you can't help wonder what the authorities

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are doing to stop all this.

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But here at the Metropolitan Police in London,

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there's a specialist police department called Amberhill,

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and it's this team's job to crack down on criminals producing

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not just fake driving licences,

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but fake passports, security passes, you name it -

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whatever ID is required, criminals will have found a way to forge it.

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In charge here is DCI Gary Miles,

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surrounded by just a fraction of the fake IDs he's collected

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over the last few years.

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It scares the hell out of me, to be blunt about it,

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the fact that it's so easy just to copy anything, so, I mean,

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how big is the industry of people who are making these?

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It's huge. As I say, since we've been running in 2009,

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I think we've disrupted somewhere in the region of about 40 or 50

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factories, as we call them.

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And they are factories that they run.

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They will get loads of different specialist equipment together

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and be generating these documents on a daily basis.

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You've got hologram features, you've got watermarks,

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you've got UV, you've got cards,

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so they would be mass-producing these upon request for individuals.

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Scary stuff. Now, according to Gary,

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almost every major town in the UK has such a factory,

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churning out hundreds of fake documents every single day.

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And the fraudsters go to huge lengths to make sure

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that the fake documents they're making

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look exactly like the real deal.

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Intelligence researcher Gary McManus is showing me the contents

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of this cupboard, just some of the many tools of the trade

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that police have seized from counterfeiters on previous raids.

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Typically, we've got an ID card printer here.

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When you say ID, like for a driving licence or something like that?

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Yes, criminals use a machine like that to print driving licences,

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identity cards,

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bank cards, construction seals cards,

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SIA security industry cards...

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-Everything.

-Near everything.

-And what's this one for?

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This is, erm...

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a piece of machinery which people will use

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if they're in the crafting industry

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for putting corners on to birthday cards and things like that.

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-This is a counterfeit passport.

-Mm-hm.

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It's got very straight edges that... There.

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-All passports should have round edges.

-Oh, right...

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So what they will do is put that in there. That's a corner cutter.

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That will just cut the corner into the passport.

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That's an embossing machine. Blank cards go in one end,

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come through here, they get embossed as they go, turn round here,

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so the numbers will be printed on to those cards.

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So that could be for...?

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Driving licences, National Insurance cards, bank cards.

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Any sort of counterfeit document normally needs some sort of stamp on it,

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so we've got some home-made stamps there from...

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That's an immigration officer's stamp.

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That's a consular stamp.

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I suppose, actually, with foreign passports,

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a lot of foreign documents,

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they would have to have a lot of these?

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-Yes.

-Wouldn't they?

-In order to verify the document.

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And where would you have got all of these?

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-Well...

-From an establishment?

-Yes, we've seized these

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-from what we call document factories.

-Right.

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But in fairness, "factory" is a bit of a misnomer.

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It's usually someone's bedroom, in a flat somewhere.

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With all this kit to help the fraudsters make their fake IDs

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so utterly convincing, it's perhaps no wonder that, on their own,

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bank staff might have difficulty spotting what's genuine

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and what isn't - and I think that's a real concern.

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So, you've been in this department for about six or seven years?

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-Yes, I have.

-Have you seen it just grow enormously during that time?

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Yes, I personally wouldn't trust anybody's identity document

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when I saw it now.

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Gary believes that a lot more needs to be done

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to train people to spot a fraudulent document.

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He says that all too often the emphasis is on verifying

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signatures and photographs,

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which may mean less importance is placed on checking

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whether the actual document itself is genuine.

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What people tend to do with an identity document is verify it,

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not authenticate it, which they should be doing.

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-The people really have to be trained...

-Yes.

-..to identify it,

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whether it's authentic not?

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Yes, across banks, HR departments, councils. Everywhere, really.

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Do you think that's a really lax area?

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Yes, there's only so much... It's a difficult area, really.

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How much training you give to people,

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if that then becomes open knowledge,

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then the fraudsters get to know about it, as well.

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One of this team's document examiners is DC Jane Wright.

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Sometimes you get fraudulent. Sometimes you get counterfeit.

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There's a difference between the two.

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Counterfeit is completely and absolutely created and made up.

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And a fraudulent document is a genuine document,

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but it's been... It's been tampered with,

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they've changed the details or changed an image, or something.

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But Jane can spot a fake a mile off,

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as she demonstrates with this passport.

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First thing is check the quality of the cover.

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The gold blocking... They can't always

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get the quality, if it's a counterfeit.

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Make sure that all the corners are rounded, instead of square.

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Make sure all the paper is aligned

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and it's not falling over the edge or not reaching the edge.

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The end papers, you have a feel and make sure,

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because generally you have a tactile feel to that.

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This are all things that you can do with the naked eye

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and with just feeling.

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Well, I have to say,

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I certainly wish the staff at my bank had put those kinds of tips

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into practice when presented with a fake driving licence.

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Perhaps then they would've been able to stop the fraudsters

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in their tracks, as I'm very pleased to say Gary and his team

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have managed to do a number of times.

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We've stopped hundreds of people

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by arresting them and prosecuting them

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and putting them in front of the courts.

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We've saved £50 or £60 million, erm...

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to various different organisations

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by them being able to identify people using counterfeit documents

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when applying for financial services.

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Are you amazed yourself about the scale and the sophistication,

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the fact when one scam is closed down, another one,

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even more sophisticated, pops its head up?

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I'm not amazed, because it's the professionalism.

0:24:070:24:11

I think generally the public don't actually understand

0:24:110:24:15

the professionalism of these people that are committing these offences.

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On occasions, people can think the victim to be stupid,

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or the victim to be greedy.

0:24:220:24:24

I can categorically say, from what I see from it,

0:24:240:24:27

it's neither the victim being stupid nor the victim being greedy,

0:24:270:24:30

it is the professionalism of the people

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that are committing these offences.

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What's your final word of advice, then,

0:24:340:24:36

on trying to protect your identity,

0:24:360:24:38

or pitfalls maybe that you've witnessed?

0:24:380:24:41

Always have a look at, erm, at the accounts that you have,

0:24:410:24:46

and try and identify where there's strange behaviour going on.

0:24:460:24:50

And as soon as you identify strange behaviour,

0:24:500:24:53

make contact with whatever institution that is,

0:24:530:24:57

and they then should then be able to assist you through it.

0:24:570:25:00

-So act fast, in other words?

-Yes.

0:25:000:25:02

Well, I must say, it's very reassuring to see what Gary

0:25:040:25:07

and his team are doing to try and combat this ever-growing crime.

0:25:070:25:11

But the one thing I've learned from my own very frustrating banking

0:25:110:25:14

experience is that you can never be sure that your details,

0:25:140:25:18

and your account numbers and your amounts of money

0:25:180:25:21

are being kept safe, even within the bank.

0:25:210:25:24

So the advice here is be ever-vigilant,

0:25:240:25:27

do many checks about your own affairs -

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and if you see anything that is even vaguely suspicious, act fast.

0:25:300:25:33

Still to come on Rip-Off Britain,

0:25:430:25:45

are we making it all too easy for the criminals to get hold of

0:25:450:25:48

the information they need to steal our identities?

0:25:480:25:52

Were I an identity thief,

0:25:520:25:54

then this would all be ammunition that I would use to try

0:25:540:25:57

and take some credit out in your name.

0:25:570:25:59

It's quite eye-opening, actually.

0:25:590:26:01

Manchester's Trafford Centre

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was this year's venue for our annual pop-up shop.

0:26:070:26:10

It was a wonderful opportunity

0:26:100:26:11

for us all to be out and about, meeting viewers.

0:26:110:26:14

But alongside the fun was the serious business of helping

0:26:140:26:17

as many of you as we could.

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We have a fairly good track record.

0:26:210:26:22

What am I saying? We have a very good track record.

0:26:220:26:25

As well as tackling your individual problems,

0:26:250:26:28

our experts were out and about in the shopping centre giving advice -

0:26:280:26:32

and Andy Webb from the Money Advice Service was keen to find out

0:26:320:26:35

how much shoppers knew about staying safe when shopping online.

0:26:350:26:39

Do you do online shopping?

0:26:390:26:41

-Yeah, quite often...

-You do. And you?

-Yeah, I do it quite often.

0:26:410:26:44

-What are you looking for online?

-Price, to be honest.

0:26:440:26:46

But are you looking about whether the site is safe?

0:26:460:26:49

Is that something that even enters your mind?

0:26:490:26:51

That's true, it's never really entered my mind.

0:26:510:26:53

The danger is when you buy,

0:26:530:26:55

you might be kind of releasing all your credit card

0:26:550:26:58

or debit card information,

0:26:580:27:00

potentially to scammers, who could then use it to steal your identity,

0:27:000:27:04

or take more money from you.

0:27:040:27:05

-I've kind of got a few websites here I can show you.

-Yeah?

0:27:050:27:08

Have a look at this.

0:27:080:27:09

'Most of us know by now that a padlock symbol

0:27:090:27:12

'should mean that a site is secure.

0:27:120:27:14

'But Andy says there's another important symbol

0:27:140:27:17

'to look out for.'

0:27:170:27:18

The start of the web address, there, most web addresses are "http".

0:27:200:27:24

-Yeah, OK.

-If you're buying online,

0:27:240:27:26

look for the S,

0:27:260:27:28

cos the S stands for "secure". If it's not there,

0:27:280:27:31

for something you're buying, be careful.

0:27:310:27:34

Cos it might not be a legitimate site. It could be dodgy.

0:27:340:27:36

-So, we can be ripped off?

-Yeah, absolutely, you could be.

0:27:360:27:39

So look for things like that. That sounds, erm,

0:27:390:27:42

quite simple, doesn't it? Look for the S. Sometimes though,

0:27:420:27:46

that S doesn't appear until you're at the checkout.

0:27:460:27:49

So just because the S isn't there straightaway,

0:27:490:27:51

it doesn't mean avoid it completely,

0:27:510:27:53

but when you do go through to click, make sure the S is there.

0:27:530:27:57

-Appreciated that.

-Good luck with the shopping.

0:27:570:27:59

Thank you very much...

0:27:590:28:01

A new face on our experts team this year was Aaron Chohan,

0:28:040:28:07

a cyber-crime and fraud solicitor

0:28:070:28:10

who also wanted to help shoppers avoid being scammed.

0:28:100:28:13

Are you concerned about internet fraud?

0:28:140:28:17

-Yes.

-What are your concerns?

0:28:170:28:19

Well, recently I had an issue where money had been taken out of

0:28:190:28:23

my bank account. I have been refunded,

0:28:230:28:25

-but it's made me very wary.

-Well, I'm glad I stopped you,

0:28:250:28:28

because Aaron is an expert on this.

0:28:280:28:30

-Oh, right!

-So he ought to be able to tell you what you might be able

0:28:300:28:34

to do to protect yourselves in future.

0:28:340:28:35

-Oh...

-Yeah, the thing you've got to realise, your online behaviour

0:28:350:28:38

is really a gateway for all of these criminals to try and get your data,

0:28:380:28:41

maybe mimic your identity.

0:28:410:28:43

For example, if you get an e-mail and there's a name that comes up

0:28:430:28:46

saying it's from a local authority or a council,

0:28:460:28:48

you hover over the e-mail name

0:28:480:28:50

and it actually reveals a different sender's name behind it.

0:28:500:28:53

That's interesting, actually, because I received an e-mail

0:28:530:28:57

which I thought was from the Inland Revenue.

0:28:570:28:59

They said I had a tax refund online

0:28:590:29:01

-and I had to put all my information in.

-That is...

0:29:010:29:04

I actually phoned the Inland Revenue, cos I thought,

0:29:040:29:06

I don't actually believe this is true.

0:29:060:29:08

-They did say...

-It is a scam.

0:29:080:29:10

-Yes. Common scam.

-It's an absolute common scam,

0:29:100:29:12

playing people, there's this opportunity to get some money,

0:29:120:29:15

-you think, that's a bit of a bonus, I'll go and get that.

-Well done, you!

-Absolutely.

0:29:150:29:18

But again, it's looking out for the peculiar,

0:29:180:29:20

something which doesn't quite make sense.

0:29:200:29:22

They're brilliant at copying what an e-mail would look like.

0:29:220:29:25

It did look very official, though. I can imagine some people would be

0:29:250:29:28

easily fooled into thinking it was a genuine site,

0:29:280:29:31

because they do look so original, like the original sites.

0:29:310:29:34

All of these things have made you a bit more wary?

0:29:340:29:37

-Yes, very much so.

-You did the right thing,

0:29:370:29:39

phoning them up and checking it out.

0:29:390:29:41

-Do you use social media?

-I do, yes.

0:29:410:29:43

Do you put lots of personal information on it?

0:29:430:29:45

No, I keep it very, to the bare minimum.

0:29:450:29:47

It's true, there's so much of the basic information that's used

0:29:470:29:50

-for bank security we put on our social media accounts.

-Yeah.

0:29:500:29:53

-You know, mother's maiden name...

-Exactly.

0:29:530:29:55

..date of birth, favourite pet or so on.

0:29:550:29:58

It's all very accessible, unless your settings are secure.

0:29:580:30:01

It sounds like you're ahead of the game compared to many,

0:30:010:30:03

which is a great thing to hear.

0:30:030:30:05

-JULIA:

-Well, we're going to be hearing more

0:30:070:30:09

about the dangers of that in our next report.

0:30:090:30:11

But before we leave our pop-up shop,

0:30:110:30:13

let's catch up with some of the things you were sounding off about

0:30:130:30:16

in our Gripe Corner.

0:30:160:30:18

What really annoys me is estate agents charging

0:30:180:30:20

really expensive administration costs.

0:30:200:30:23

What gets my blood boiling is aggressive sales.

0:30:230:30:27

They're calling me at half past eight at night,

0:30:270:30:29

they stop me in the street, they don't take no for an answer,

0:30:290:30:31

I'm getting junk mail through the post. It makes me furious.

0:30:310:30:35

Car insurance. Like, the price of me paying each month

0:30:350:30:38

costs more than the car itself. That needs to be sorted, man - Asap.

0:30:380:30:42

Yeah.

0:30:420:30:43

Now, earlier in the programme we heard about the fraudsters who very

0:30:460:30:49

nearly pulled off an audacious con trick, just by stealing a couple

0:30:490:30:52

of items of post from their victim.

0:30:520:30:55

Perhaps the most shocking aspect of that case was just how little

0:30:550:30:59

information the crooks needed

0:30:590:31:00

for them to get so far with their crimes.

0:31:000:31:03

Well, that got us thinking about how many titbits of information

0:31:030:31:06

we may all be giving away on a daily basis,

0:31:060:31:09

perhaps when we're using social media accounts,

0:31:090:31:11

or when we're on our phones.

0:31:110:31:14

Simply a name and address here,

0:31:140:31:16

a date of birth or maiden name there,

0:31:160:31:18

can lead to all sorts of information being used for any manner of frauds.

0:31:180:31:22

There's no doubt that the internet and social media

0:31:240:31:27

have made the world a smaller place.

0:31:270:31:29

Family on the other side of the globe can see photos of loved ones

0:31:290:31:33

in seconds and staying up-to-date with employers and friends,

0:31:330:31:36

wherever you are, can all happen at the click of a button.

0:31:360:31:40

But there's a more sinister side to this information being on display

0:31:400:31:44

for millions of people to see,

0:31:440:31:46

because the minutiae of your life floating around in cyberspace

0:31:460:31:50

can all too easily be pieced together by criminals

0:31:500:31:53

out to devastate your life.

0:31:530:31:56

Catherine Fotheringham found this out when she had her identity stolen

0:31:560:32:00

by fraudsters using information they found online.

0:32:000:32:04

And it all started with the delivery of an unexpected package.

0:32:040:32:08

I opened the parcel and looked in it, and it was size eight trainers.

0:32:110:32:15

Well, no-one in the family has size eight trainers.

0:32:150:32:17

It was from a company that I didn't know about, that I don't order from.

0:32:170:32:21

So, I rang up the company

0:32:210:32:25

to question the delivery -

0:32:250:32:27

and they said an account had been opened up in my name.

0:32:270:32:30

And I said I hadn't opened up an account,

0:32:300:32:33

and I think this is somebody fraudulently using my name.

0:32:330:32:36

This set off alarm bells for Catherine,

0:32:380:32:40

so she contacted a credit agency to see if her details had been used

0:32:400:32:44

in any other recent financial activities.

0:32:440:32:47

I found out that at least ten other applications for, erm...

0:32:490:32:54

payday loans, store cards, bank accounts,

0:32:540:32:58

had all been opened up in my name.

0:32:580:33:00

When I rang the bank to find out how they'd set up a bank account

0:33:000:33:03

in my name, they said it was set up online

0:33:030:33:06

and there's nothing they could do about it.

0:33:060:33:08

On the account itself,

0:33:080:33:10

it had a £1,000 overdraft facility on it -

0:33:100:33:14

and they could've taken that money.

0:33:140:33:18

Catherine set about cancelling all of these accounts,

0:33:180:33:21

but as she spoke to the various companies' fraud departments,

0:33:210:33:24

they kept coming back with the same question -

0:33:240:33:26

one that gave her a clue to a place where some of her personal details

0:33:260:33:30

could've been found.

0:33:300:33:32

A lot of them asked me, was I a company director?

0:33:340:33:37

I said yes, I was a company director,

0:33:370:33:39

or had I been? I said, "Yes, I am a company director."

0:33:390:33:42

All company directors by law

0:33:420:33:45

have to be registered with Companies House -

0:33:450:33:47

and up until 2015, the Companies House website

0:33:470:33:51

published full names, addresses and dates of birth -

0:33:510:33:54

personal details that could be accessed

0:33:540:33:56

just through a quick internet search.

0:33:560:33:59

Exactly the sort of information Catherine believes

0:33:590:34:02

that could be used by criminals to apply for loans,

0:34:020:34:05

credit and go shopping, all in her name.

0:34:050:34:08

It is worrying, it is concerning.

0:34:080:34:10

I can't change my name, I can't change my date of birth.

0:34:100:34:13

Unless I'm going to move, I can't change my address.

0:34:130:34:17

So, it's really like holding back the tide, ensuring that

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everything's in place and double-checking everything.

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Well, from October 2015, Companies House stopped displaying

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the full date of birth on its website, for precisely the reason

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that it could potentially be used in identity fraud.

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But that was too late for Catherine,

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whose personal details had already been used and abused by criminals -

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and there was nothing she could do about it.

0:34:420:34:45

I changed my company registered premises to a different address,

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but the problem is, historically, it's out there.

0:34:500:34:53

Anything that gets onto the internet,

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there's not much you can do about it.

0:34:550:34:57

So, there's historic information on everybody.

0:34:570:35:00

But of course, it's not just one website that might display personal

0:35:000:35:05

information about us online.

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And sometimes we can make it far too easy for the criminals.

0:35:070:35:11

There were almost four million cases of online fraud last year,

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and experts are warning people to take extra care with all the bits

0:35:150:35:18

and pieces of information they may inadvertently give away -

0:35:180:35:22

and nowhere is that more true than on social media,

0:35:220:35:25

where many of us post personal information

0:35:250:35:27

without thinking where it might end up.

0:35:270:35:29

Indeed, the fraud prevention service Cifas recently produced

0:35:290:35:33

a film to demonstrate the dangers of that.

0:35:330:35:36

It set up a test in a cafe which, for the purposes of the experiment,

0:35:360:35:39

was offering customers a free coffee

0:35:390:35:42

in return for "liking" their shop on Facebook.

0:35:420:35:45

It seems harmless enough, but there's a catch.

0:35:450:35:49

OK, Carly, are you ready for the information on Damien?

0:35:490:35:53

-Yep, I am.

-Mother's maiden name is... BLEEP

0:35:530:35:55

He banks with... BLEEP

0:35:550:35:57

By liking the cafe's page,

0:35:570:35:59

its staff and anyone else who may be looking can glean all sorts

0:35:590:36:04

of information about their customer, pulling together other details

0:36:040:36:07

that had previously been posted on Facebook.

0:36:070:36:10

Yeah, got it.

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Damien, aged 26 and a fitness instructor.

0:36:120:36:14

How do you know all that?

0:36:140:36:15

Ronan goes to UCL? Martin, that went to South Thames College.

0:36:150:36:18

-Assistant psychologist at Great Ormond Street?

-How did you know that?!

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It's a stunt that very effectively illustrates how easy it is

0:36:210:36:26

to get hold of facts that, in the wrong hands,

0:36:260:36:28

could be used to help steal someone's identity.

0:36:280:36:31

Sandra Peaston from Cifas

0:36:330:36:34

believes we're all too relaxed about handing out our information.

0:36:340:36:38

We're not suggesting that people are scared to go online,

0:36:410:36:43

that they're scared to use social media,

0:36:430:36:45

we're just suggesting that they're aware of what they're sharing

0:36:450:36:48

and how they're interacting with that environment.

0:36:480:36:50

It's like, for example, if you've got a bike,

0:36:500:36:52

you shouldn't be scared to use your bike and leave it somewhere.

0:36:520:36:54

We just suggest that you'd use a big lock when you do that.

0:36:540:36:58

That's something technology expert David McClelland

0:36:580:37:01

wholeheartedly agrees with.

0:37:010:37:03

He's long believed that many of us risk sleepwalking into having

0:37:030:37:06

our identities stolen because of our relaxed approach

0:37:060:37:10

to the use of social media accounts.

0:37:100:37:13

Social networking is amazing.

0:37:130:37:14

It connects people all over the world,

0:37:140:37:16

it's great for social life and professional life, as well.

0:37:160:37:19

But the amount of information that we share on these social networks

0:37:190:37:22

can be putting us at risk,

0:37:220:37:24

so it's important we understand the dangers of sharing too much

0:37:240:37:28

of ourselves online.

0:37:280:37:30

To demonstrate, David is going to see just how much

0:37:300:37:34

personal information he can glean from passers-by

0:37:340:37:37

in Sevenoaks, in Kent,

0:37:370:37:39

with just their first and second names to go on.

0:37:390:37:42

How safe do you feel about your online presence?

0:37:450:37:48

I think fairly safe.

0:37:480:37:50

I've sort of done all the safety precautions.

0:37:500:37:52

I'm a teacher, so...

0:37:520:37:54

it's quite important that I hide quite a lot of my stuff.

0:37:540:37:57

Generally, I feel as if I have the ability

0:37:570:37:59

within all of my settings to tighten it up as best I can.

0:37:590:38:02

I try to keep it as impersonal as possible.

0:38:020:38:06

They all reckon they know what they're doing,

0:38:060:38:08

but their confidence rapidly diminishes

0:38:080:38:11

once David does a bit of online digging.

0:38:110:38:13

Some pictures.

0:38:130:38:15

-Mm.

-I'm guessing that might be friends or family just there.

0:38:150:38:17

Let's see what else we've got.

0:38:170:38:19

So, I can see here where you live.

0:38:190:38:22

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

0:38:220:38:24

-Yeah.

-That would've been me aged...

0:38:240:38:27

15, probably?

0:38:270:38:28

By going to this social network, I can find out more about you.

0:38:280:38:32

Yeah, if it's clear that that's my name, yes.

0:38:320:38:35

Oh.

0:38:350:38:36

-Oh, my gosh.

-Is that the university you went to, by any chance?

-Yes.

0:38:360:38:39

How are you feeling about this, by the way?

0:38:390:38:41

Slightly concerned that it's quite THAT obvious.

0:38:410:38:44

Hang on a minute,

0:38:440:38:45

so what you've posted here are some links to another social network

0:38:450:38:49

where I can...watch a video,

0:38:490:38:53

which I presume is of you.

0:38:530:38:55

In a few minutes,

0:38:550:38:56

David has managed to find out information about each of our

0:38:560:38:59

unwitting volunteers that he says would be enough

0:38:590:39:02

to start creating fake identities.

0:39:020:39:05

Were I an identity thief,

0:39:050:39:07

then this would all be ammunition that I would use,

0:39:070:39:10

with some other bits of information,

0:39:100:39:12

to try and take some credit out in your name.

0:39:120:39:15

So, David has these tips that you can do right now

0:39:150:39:18

to make sure you're not inadvertently leaving yourself

0:39:180:39:21

exposed to the fraudsters.

0:39:210:39:23

Social networks

0:39:230:39:24

are making it easier and easier for you to check

0:39:240:39:27

your privacy, to go through a little health check.

0:39:270:39:30

There's a few little screens to see if you're sharing

0:39:300:39:32

your e-mail addresses and phone numbers, dates of birth.

0:39:320:39:35

You can make it so you can change it so no-one else can see that.

0:39:350:39:37

You can test, you can make a change to a setting...

0:39:370:39:40

-Yeah?

-..and test straightaway

0:39:400:39:42

to see if that's giving you the control that you want.

0:39:420:39:44

Fascinating. That's really helpful.

0:39:440:39:46

No, I'll go and wrap that up a bit better.

0:39:460:39:49

HE LAUGHS

0:39:490:39:50

-Pleased to hear it.

-Yeah.

-Thank you very much.

0:39:500:39:52

Thank you very much.

0:39:520:39:54

Speaking to people today, if I'm honest,

0:39:540:39:56

I'm not at all surprised at what we found.

0:39:560:39:58

They thought that they were quite locked down,

0:39:580:40:00

they had control over their online presence on their social networks.

0:40:000:40:03

But having a look, it turns out they weren't.

0:40:030:40:06

Everyone we spoke to was leaking a little bit of information

0:40:060:40:08

that would be fantastic for an identity thief

0:40:080:40:12

to take away and use to piece together that jigsaw,

0:40:120:40:15

to build up that jigsaw that would enable them to do

0:40:150:40:17

anything, take out credit, take out a phone contract, whatever.

0:40:170:40:21

Well, our volunteers will be more cautious from now on.

0:40:210:40:24

But Catherine's already being extra careful online.

0:40:240:40:27

As she can never be fully sure where the fraudsters got her details from

0:40:270:40:31

in the first place,

0:40:310:40:33

she's taking extra steps to monitor whether her ID

0:40:330:40:36

is still being misused by criminals.

0:40:360:40:39

I think it's staying alert,

0:40:390:40:41

watching what's going on with all my accounts,

0:40:410:40:44

watching where information is stored on my Facebook.

0:40:440:40:48

Before, we didn't have the web, so people had kept things close.

0:40:480:40:55

Now it goes out there.

0:40:550:40:57

I think the main thing is not to put too much information

0:40:570:41:01

about yourself out there.

0:41:010:41:04

Cos it doesn't go away, it stays.

0:41:040:41:07

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0:41:130:41:15

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0:41:330:41:36

where there's tonnes of advice and fact sheets full of tips

0:41:360:41:40

on how you can avoid being ripped off.

0:41:400:41:43

Or if you'd like to send us an e-mail,

0:41:430:41:45

then our address is...

0:41:450:41:48

And of course, you can always send a letter to our new address...

0:41:500:41:54

Well, I'm pretty sure that, just like us,

0:42:070:42:09

you will have been utterly horrified at the story

0:42:090:42:13

of how Minh's house was almost stolen away from him,

0:42:130:42:17

right underneath his nose,

0:42:170:42:19

and all because they got hold of just a few pieces of his mail.

0:42:190:42:22

You know, I think we're all going to be making an extra special effort

0:42:220:42:25

to protect our post from now on, and I have to say,

0:42:250:42:28

the shredder is an essential piece of kit in my house.

0:42:280:42:31

-For me, I burn everything.

-Equally staggering, I thought,

0:42:310:42:34

was how easy it is to inadvertently leave yourself at risk

0:42:340:42:38

from ID theft, through even the simplest activity online.

0:42:380:42:41

It really doesn't take much for fraudsters to piece together

0:42:410:42:44

bits of your information and then exploit it for their own advantage.

0:42:440:42:48

So, please do bear in mind all the tips that we've heard today

0:42:480:42:51

on how to stay safe.

0:42:510:42:52

I must say, some of the stories today have just been horrifying.

0:42:520:42:56

And after my own situation,

0:42:560:42:57

although it was terrible to see how much fake ID had been seized

0:42:570:43:01

by the police, it was also reassuring at the same time

0:43:010:43:04

to see just how much is being done to try and tackle the problem.

0:43:040:43:08

Which I hope means that what I experienced

0:43:080:43:10

is a lot less likely to happen to somebody else.

0:43:100:43:13

And at that point is where we've got to leave it for today.

0:43:130:43:15

Thank you so much for your company and from the entire team, bye-bye.

0:43:150:43:19

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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