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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
We're all just numbers, aren't we, at the end of the day? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Profit comes before anything else, and that's all that matters. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Why can't they all just give it you at the price it should be? | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
They don't, they just try and charge as much as they can... | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
When it comes to actual customer service, it's dreadful. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
we're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Your stories, your money... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
where today we're going to be hearing about scams and crimes | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
that are not just breathtakingly brazen, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
but also terrifyingly simple. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
And they're all to do with something that's fast becoming a threat that, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
really, every single one of us needs to be on our guard against - | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
-ID fraud. -As we'll see, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
fraudsters sometimes need only the smallest of details about identity | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
to commit their crimes. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
And you may have no idea that they've got hold of your personal | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
information until it's too late. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
That was what happened in what has to be one of the most jaw-dropping | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
cases we've ever featured on this programme. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
And just wait till you hear it. I guarantee that once you have, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
you'll be making checks to ensure the same can't happen to you, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
which, of course, is what today's programme is all about - | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
making sure you have everything you need to know to avoid making life | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
easier for the criminals, so that all of those valuable | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
bits and pieces of your information can't end up in their hands. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Coming up, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
how fraudsters set out to steal not just this man's identity, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
but also his home - | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
and they very nearly got away with it. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
It does still shock me, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
and I just hope that it doesn't happen to other people, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and other people don't have to go through this. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
And behind the scenes with the police team | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
cracking down on the fraudsters who are making fake ID to order. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
You've got hologram features, you've got watermarks, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
you've got UV, you've got cards. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
So they would be mass-producing these upon request for individuals. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Most of us at some point have probably had an item of post | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
go missing, and while it's frustrating, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
you would hope that something lost in the mail | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
would have no more serious a consequence | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
than perhaps just a bit of inconvenience. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Sadly, however, that's not always the case, and there are items that, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
well, far from being simply lost, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
have somewhere along the line been deliberately stolen, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
so that someone else can get their hands on your personal details | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
and then use them to their advantage. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Well, we've looked into examples of that on this | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
programme before, of course, not least in our last series, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
when we revealed how fraudsters were even attaching fake postboxes | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
to people's houses in order to snaffle the mail. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Well, the mess that those residents had to untangle was bad enough, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
but just wait till you hear about the first-class fraud | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
that the man we're about to hear from was exposed to | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
when his details were stolen. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
For fraudsters intent on stealing your identity, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
there can be few things quite as valuable as your post. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
And a scam we featured last year, targeting homeowners in Chorlton | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
in Greater Manchester, exposed an ingenious way | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
they might sometimes get hold of it. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
I noticed stuck to the wall was this metal postbox | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
that I'd never seen before, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
and it had a crudely painted house number on it. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
At that moment, we realised that the letterbox had been put up | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
to intercept the mail. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
In that letterbox, we had a letter from the TSB, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
saying I'd opened a new account with them and I had negotiated | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
an overdraft for £1,000. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
These temporary postboxes had been attached to homes | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
purely so that the crooks responsible could collect letters | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
relating to accounts or loans that they'd set up fraudulently | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
after stealing the identities of the real residents. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
And though in these cases it was spotted before too much damage | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
could be done, one way or another, our post and where it's delivered | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
can be the gateway to our most valuable details, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
because if fraudsters can get their hands on our bills | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
or bank statements, there's no end to the havoc they can cause. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
And here, in the leafy suburbs of Stockport in Cheshire, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
that's something that Minh To has discovered | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
after he ended up becoming the victim | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
of a particularly audacious scam. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
And the scene of the crime? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
The house where he's lived for nearly 30 years, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
bringing up his family, including daughter Fiona. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
My dad bought the house, I think, a few years before I was born, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
so late '80s, around '88. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
We lived there, growing up, throughout our whole childhood, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
pretty much, so it's always been the family home, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
my dad's always loved it. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
It comes with a lot of land, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
so he's had various animals on the farm there. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
The house is really important to me and my dad. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Minh's house is his pride and joy, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and though his children have now grown up and moved out, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
he's never had any intention or desire to go anywhere else himself. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
He's always planned to retire here with his animals. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
It's a bungalow, and I have 11 acres of land in here. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
I have three bedrooms, very comfortable. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
It's warm and it's away from the road. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
But it's the secluded location of this house, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
and more especially where his letterbox used to be located, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
which made Minh the target of criminals. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Here is... | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
It used to be, er, the postbox. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Minh has now moved his postbox away from the location | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
to a place where it's visible from the front door. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
His old one had been completely out of sight, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
and though he believed it was secure, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
in fact criminals had found a way to fish out some of his post. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
And what they did with it is one of the single most shocking scams | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
that we've ever come across. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Because, terrifyingly, a handful of stolen utility bills | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
and bank statements was all it took for fraudsters | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
to try and steal his entire home from under his nose. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
And it was only by chance that his daughter Fiona, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
an estate agent in a nearby town, uncovered what was going on. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
She got the surprise of her life | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
after seeing her father's much-loved home suddenly appear on the market. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
I was in work, and it was a weekend, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and I was looking at properties that were for sale in the area, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
and I saw it had come up, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
and I knew that he would never try and sell it without telling us, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
or for the price that it was on at. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
And yet, from what Fiona could tell, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Minh's house was being advertised as being up for sale at an auction, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
in just a few days' time. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Confused and extremely concerned, she immediately rang her dad. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
I called my dad and I asked him what was going on, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
cos I was really shocked, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
and he said he didn't know what I was talking about at all, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
he didn't understand what was going on. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
He was wondering how it had happened, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
so we had loads of questions, and then he got quite angry, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
cos he just didn't understand how something like this could happen to him. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
Knowing he hadn't put his house up for sale, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Minh was, understandably, totally bewildered. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Shocking. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Terrible feeling. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
And, er... Panicked, really. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Something going terrible wrong here. Can't figure out... What is it? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Fiona did some more digging, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
but she couldn't work out how her dad's property had | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
come up to be for sale at an auction | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
without either his knowledge or permission. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
At first, I thought maybe the estate agent that had marketed it | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
hadn't, like, done the correct checks | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
in regards to ID and everything. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
But then I thought, if they have done that, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
then we need to make sure that the title deeds are all correct | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and everything's fine with the Land Registry. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
As Fiona investigated further and made checks with the Land Registry, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
things got even worse. She discovered, to her horror, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
that somehow her father was no longer the legal owner. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
The house had been transferred to a complete stranger's name, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
and it was this person, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
who, at least on paper, now appeared to own the property, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
who had given the permission for the house to be listed | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
and put up for auction. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
The guide price was £300,000, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
rather less than the property's true value, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
but it's easy to see that a lower price would be likely to gather | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
a lot of interest at the auction in just a few days' time. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Minh had to act fast - | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
and called solicitor Paul Citron for help. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
-Hey! -Hello. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Hello, Paul. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
I received a telephone call from him, very upset and animated, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
to tell me that his house had been stolen. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
It took me a few seconds to grasp what he was getting at, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
although I have to say that I had never come across something quite | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
so blatant and outrageous as the theft of identity, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
leading to the change of ownership of a house. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
It was quite frightening to realise how relatively easy | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
it was to commit this fraud. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
Paul managed to put a stop to the sale | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
and set about unpicking exactly how this could possibly have happened. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
It quickly became clear that the personal information | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
that had been stolen from Minh's postbox was enough | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
for criminals to forge the proof of identity that they needed | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
to carry out their audacious plan. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
The way in which this fraud started was with a forged passport, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
which showed all your details, your name, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
but instead of a photograph of you, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
there was a photograph of a completely different gentleman. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
It was with a fake passport in Minh's name, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
but showing the face of one of the fraudsters instead, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
that the process of transferring ownership to the house | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
to a second fraudster could begin. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
He was also able to introduce himself to a firm of solicitors, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
producing the forged passport, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and the utility bills to evidence his identity as you. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
With no reason to suspect that anything was amiss, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
and believing, thanks to that fake ID, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
that the request was coming from Minh himself, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
the solicitors had agreed to transfer ownership of the property | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
to the name requested. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
And what made this part of the fraud even easier for the criminals | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
was the fact that, as Minh had paid off his mortgage | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
on the property some time ago, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
there were no banks or building societies involved | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
to ask any more awkward questions of the fraudsters. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
So with what seemed like astonishing ease, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
the transfer of deeds from Minh's family home to the criminals | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
was complete. To cover their tracks, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
the fraudsters diverted all mail relating to the transfer elsewhere, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
meaning all the time Minh was completely unaware | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
that there was anything untoward going on. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
That person then went to the estate agent's and said, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
"I'm the owner of this property now, I've just recently acquired it, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-"and I want to sell it at auction." -Simple as that. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
Simple as that, yeah. Frightening, really. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Had Fiona not spotted the house on the market, quite by fluke, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
and if the property had been sold at auction, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
the whole mess could've got even more complicated still, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
with an unwitting new owner of this house entering the mix, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
by which time the fraudsters, of course, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
would've made off with the cash from the sale - | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
and leaving Minh with a very difficult situation to resolve. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
It is quite conceivable that a successful bid | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
would have been made for the property at auction, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
and presumably a substantial amount of money paid over | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
by way of deposit, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
and indeed the purchase of the property | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
by an innocent third party completed. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Fortunately, however, the fraud was stopped dead in its tracks, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
and the men behind it were arrested. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Atif Mahmood, on the left, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
and Saeed Ghani both admitted conspiracy to defraud. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Ghani was sentenced to seven and a half years | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and Mahmood sentenced to two years and nine months behind bars. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Do you want to come down? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Now, though their actions may sound unprecedented, in fact, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
the Land Registry has stopped | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
254 similar fraudulent applications on properties since 2009. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:47 | |
And while the stakes were especially high in Minh's case, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
plenty more of us will have had our personal details | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
targeted in some way. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
In fact, in March it was reported that cases of identity fraud | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
in the UK were at their highest level since records began | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
13 years ago, with almost 173,000 cases in 2016 alone. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
That figure includes online frauds and, as happened here, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
cases of people targeted through their post, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
a scenario fraud specialist Tony Blake warned about | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
on this programme last year. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
There's been student properties where people's identities | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
have been stolen - | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
and again, communal areas where mail is just left around. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Fraudsters are making applications for products, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
whether it be an account, or a loan, or something similar, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
in someone else's name, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
and they're having the mail sent to the genuine person's address. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Now, they need to intercept that mail | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
before the genuine customer even sees it. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
With this type of fraud on the increase, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
many police forces across the country now have dedicated teams | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
to investigate cases. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
Detective Chief Inspector Nicky Porter | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
leads the economic crime team for Greater Manchester Police. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
So, some of the basic ways will be about just using an implement | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
to get inside the box and lift, or scoop the mail out. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Sometimes, if the box hasn't been emptied regularly, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
the mail will build up, and if it's busting out of the box, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
it's easier for fraudsters to just literally put their hand in | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and grab that mail. And then other means would be | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
just by brute force and damaging the lid or the casing to the box. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
So what they're looking for is account numbers - | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
particularly useful would be credit cards, PIN numbers, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
erm, people's name and address, dates of birth. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
These are all things that a fraudster can then, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
on a future date, use and exploit. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
So Nicky has this advice | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
to make sure it's not your details that the fraudsters | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
get their hands on next time. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
I think, generally speaking, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
residents should be very vigilant around | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
the presentation of the letterbox at their door. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
If you've got mail sticking out of the postbox, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
then somebody could just come along and grab what might appear | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
to be bills or personal information. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
So it's a good thing to make sure | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
that you clear that area on a regular basis. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
But many of the people who fall victims to a fraud | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
do so without even realising it, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
so Nicky says keeping a close eye on your bank statements | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
and checking that your personal information is safe | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-is always sound advice. -It is wise to just check your account, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
and to go over your statements. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Sometimes it can be just be small amounts that are taken, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
and people don't realise they've been defrauded, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
or their identity's being used till several months down the line. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
So it's always good to check out | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
and keep on top of your statements and your bills. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
It's also really wise to check out anything | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
that's been sent through around financial agreements | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
that you're unclear about, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
or if you're not sure whether you've actually taken something out, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
then you must challenge this, or contact your bank. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Back at home in Stockport, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Minh now keeps a much closer eye on all his personal information, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
but his family remain horrified that this fraud could ever | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
have got so far, and indeed, very nearly succeeded. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
You know, it does still shock me, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
and I just hope that it doesn't happen to other people | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
and other people don't have to go through this. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
It's still quite unbelievable, as well. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
So there's a big element of it where, you know, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
if I'll be speaking to my friends about it, I still think, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
"I can't believe this has actually happened." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Your identity is perhaps the most precious possession, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
and it seems that with just the scantest of details, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
criminals can open bank accounts, get loans, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
mortgages or credit cards, all in your name, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
then, of course, leaving you to sort out the mess. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Well, identity theft | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
is now the fastest-growing fraud in the country, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and since my own identity was forged last year, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
and I feel very vulnerable about that, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
I'm afraid I'm not totally convinced | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
that enough is being done to stop it. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
So when I was invited by the ID fraud unit at the UK's | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
biggest police force, well, to see if they could convince me | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
that they are beating the fraudsters, as you can guess, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
it was an offer I couldn't refuse. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
This footage, which we've shown you before, still chills me to the bone. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
These fraudsters are walking into my bank, intent on stealing my money. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
They have a fake driving licence that has my name and details on it, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
but this woman's photograph and that fake ID was all it took | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
to convince bank staff to give them access to my account, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
and subsequently they stole £120,000 of my money. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
Well, after this disturbing and, quite frankly, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
frustrating incident in my case with the bank, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
I have to admit that I'm very, very sceptical | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
about what security measures are in place generally | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
to stop these criminals getting away with it. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Because when you're the victim of a crime | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and the criminals, as in my case, are still at large, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
you can't help wonder what the authorities | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
are doing to stop all this. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
But here at the Metropolitan Police in London, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
there's a specialist police department called Amberhill, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
and it's this team's job to crack down on criminals producing | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
not just fake driving licences, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
but fake passports, security passes, you name it - | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
whatever ID is required, criminals will have found a way to forge it. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
In charge here is DCI Gary Miles, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
surrounded by just a fraction of the fake IDs he's collected | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
over the last few years. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
It scares the hell out of me, to be blunt about it, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
the fact that it's so easy just to copy anything, so, I mean, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
how big is the industry of people who are making these? | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
It's huge. As I say, since we've been running in 2009, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
I think we've disrupted somewhere in the region of about 40 or 50 | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
factories, as we call them. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
And they are factories that they run. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
They will get loads of different specialist equipment together | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
and be generating these documents on a daily basis. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
You've got hologram features, you've got watermarks, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
you've got UV, you've got cards, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
so they would be mass-producing these upon request for individuals. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
Scary stuff. Now, according to Gary, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
almost every major town in the UK has such a factory, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
churning out hundreds of fake documents every single day. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
And the fraudsters go to huge lengths to make sure | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
that the fake documents they're making | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
look exactly like the real deal. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Intelligence researcher Gary McManus is showing me the contents | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
of this cupboard, just some of the many tools of the trade | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
that police have seized from counterfeiters on previous raids. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Typically, we've got an ID card printer here. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
When you say ID, like for a driving licence or something like that? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Yes, criminals use a machine like that to print driving licences, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
identity cards, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
bank cards, construction seals cards, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
SIA security industry cards... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-Everything. -Near everything. -And what's this one for? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
This is, erm... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
a piece of machinery which people will use | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
if they're in the crafting industry | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
for putting corners on to birthday cards and things like that. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-This is a counterfeit passport. -Mm-hm. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
It's got very straight edges that... There. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
-All passports should have round edges. -Oh, right... | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
So what they will do is put that in there. That's a corner cutter. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
That will just cut the corner into the passport. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
That's an embossing machine. Blank cards go in one end, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
come through here, they get embossed as they go, turn round here, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
so the numbers will be printed on to those cards. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
So that could be for...? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
Driving licences, National Insurance cards, bank cards. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Any sort of counterfeit document normally needs some sort of stamp on it, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
so we've got some home-made stamps there from... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
That's an immigration officer's stamp. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
That's a consular stamp. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
I suppose, actually, with foreign passports, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
a lot of foreign documents, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
they would have to have a lot of these? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
-Yes. -Wouldn't they? -In order to verify the document. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
And where would you have got all of these? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
-Well... -From an establishment? -Yes, we've seized these | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
-from what we call document factories. -Right. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
But in fairness, "factory" is a bit of a misnomer. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
It's usually someone's bedroom, in a flat somewhere. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
With all this kit to help the fraudsters make their fake IDs | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
so utterly convincing, it's perhaps no wonder that, on their own, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
bank staff might have difficulty spotting what's genuine | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
and what isn't - and I think that's a real concern. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
So, you've been in this department for about six or seven years? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
-Yes, I have. -Have you seen it just grow enormously during that time? | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
Yes, I personally wouldn't trust anybody's identity document | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
when I saw it now. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
Gary believes that a lot more needs to be done | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
to train people to spot a fraudulent document. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
He says that all too often the emphasis is on verifying | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
signatures and photographs, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
which may mean less importance is placed on checking | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
whether the actual document itself is genuine. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
What people tend to do with an identity document is verify it, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
not authenticate it, which they should be doing. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
-The people really have to be trained... -Yes. -..to identify it, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
whether it's authentic not? | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Yes, across banks, HR departments, councils. Everywhere, really. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Do you think that's a really lax area? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Yes, there's only so much... It's a difficult area, really. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
How much training you give to people, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
if that then becomes open knowledge, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
then the fraudsters get to know about it, as well. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
One of this team's document examiners is DC Jane Wright. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
Sometimes you get fraudulent. Sometimes you get counterfeit. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
There's a difference between the two. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Counterfeit is completely and absolutely created and made up. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
And a fraudulent document is a genuine document, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
but it's been... It's been tampered with, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
they've changed the details or changed an image, or something. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
But Jane can spot a fake a mile off, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
as she demonstrates with this passport. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
First thing is check the quality of the cover. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
The gold blocking... They can't always | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
get the quality, if it's a counterfeit. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Make sure that all the corners are rounded, instead of square. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Make sure all the paper is aligned | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
and it's not falling over the edge or not reaching the edge. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
The end papers, you have a feel and make sure, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
because generally you have a tactile feel to that. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
This are all things that you can do with the naked eye | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
and with just feeling. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Well, I have to say, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I certainly wish the staff at my bank had put those kinds of tips | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
into practice when presented with a fake driving licence. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Perhaps then they would've been able to stop the fraudsters | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
in their tracks, as I'm very pleased to say Gary and his team | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
have managed to do a number of times. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
We've stopped hundreds of people | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
by arresting them and prosecuting them | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
and putting them in front of the courts. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
We've saved £50 or £60 million, erm... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
to various different organisations | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
by them being able to identify people using counterfeit documents | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
when applying for financial services. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Are you amazed yourself about the scale and the sophistication, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
the fact when one scam is closed down, another one, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
even more sophisticated, pops its head up? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
I'm not amazed, because it's the professionalism. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
I think generally the public don't actually understand | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
the professionalism of these people that are committing these offences. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
On occasions, people can think the victim to be stupid, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
or the victim to be greedy. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
I can categorically say, from what I see from it, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
it's neither the victim being stupid nor the victim being greedy, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
it is the professionalism of the people | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
that are committing these offences. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
What's your final word of advice, then, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
on trying to protect your identity, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
or pitfalls maybe that you've witnessed? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Always have a look at, erm, at the accounts that you have, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
and try and identify where there's strange behaviour going on. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
And as soon as you identify strange behaviour, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
make contact with whatever institution that is, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and they then should then be able to assist you through it. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
-So act fast, in other words? -Yes. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
Well, I must say, it's very reassuring to see what Gary | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
and his team are doing to try and combat this ever-growing crime. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
But the one thing I've learned from my own very frustrating banking | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
experience is that you can never be sure that your details, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
and your account numbers and your amounts of money | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
are being kept safe, even within the bank. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
So the advice here is be ever-vigilant, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
do many checks about your own affairs - | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and if you see anything that is even vaguely suspicious, act fast. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
are we making it all too easy for the criminals to get hold of | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
the information they need to steal our identities? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Were I an identity thief, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
then this would all be ammunition that I would use to try | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
and take some credit out in your name. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
It's quite eye-opening, actually. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Manchester's Trafford Centre | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
was this year's venue for our annual pop-up shop. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
It was a wonderful opportunity | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
for us all to be out and about, meeting viewers. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
But alongside the fun was the serious business of helping | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
as many of you as we could. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
We have a fairly good track record. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
What am I saying? We have a very good track record. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
As well as tackling your individual problems, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
our experts were out and about in the shopping centre giving advice - | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
and Andy Webb from the Money Advice Service was keen to find out | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
how much shoppers knew about staying safe when shopping online. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
Do you do online shopping? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
-Yeah, quite often... -You do. And you? -Yeah, I do it quite often. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
-What are you looking for online? -Price, to be honest. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
But are you looking about whether the site is safe? | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Is that something that even enters your mind? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
That's true, it's never really entered my mind. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
The danger is when you buy, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
you might be kind of releasing all your credit card | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
or debit card information, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
potentially to scammers, who could then use it to steal your identity, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
or take more money from you. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:05 | |
-I've kind of got a few websites here I can show you. -Yeah? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Have a look at this. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
'Most of us know by now that a padlock symbol | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
'should mean that a site is secure. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
'But Andy says there's another important symbol | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
'to look out for.' | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
The start of the web address, there, most web addresses are "http". | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
-Yeah, OK. -If you're buying online, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
look for the S, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
cos the S stands for "secure". If it's not there, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
for something you're buying, be careful. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Cos it might not be a legitimate site. It could be dodgy. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
-So, we can be ripped off? -Yeah, absolutely, you could be. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
So look for things like that. That sounds, erm, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
quite simple, doesn't it? Look for the S. Sometimes though, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
that S doesn't appear until you're at the checkout. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
So just because the S isn't there straightaway, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
it doesn't mean avoid it completely, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
but when you do go through to click, make sure the S is there. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
-Appreciated that. -Good luck with the shopping. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Thank you very much... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
A new face on our experts team this year was Aaron Chohan, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
a cyber-crime and fraud solicitor | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
who also wanted to help shoppers avoid being scammed. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
Are you concerned about internet fraud? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
-Yes. -What are your concerns? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Well, recently I had an issue where money had been taken out of | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
my bank account. I have been refunded, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
-but it's made me very wary. -Well, I'm glad I stopped you, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
because Aaron is an expert on this. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
-Oh, right! -So he ought to be able to tell you what you might be able | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
to do to protect yourselves in future. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:35 | |
-Oh... -Yeah, the thing you've got to realise, your online behaviour | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
is really a gateway for all of these criminals to try and get your data, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
maybe mimic your identity. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
For example, if you get an e-mail and there's a name that comes up | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
saying it's from a local authority or a council, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
you hover over the e-mail name | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
and it actually reveals a different sender's name behind it. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
That's interesting, actually, because I received an e-mail | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
which I thought was from the Inland Revenue. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
They said I had a tax refund online | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
-and I had to put all my information in. -That is... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
I actually phoned the Inland Revenue, cos I thought, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
I don't actually believe this is true. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
-They did say... -It is a scam. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-Yes. Common scam. -It's an absolute common scam, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
playing people, there's this opportunity to get some money, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
-you think, that's a bit of a bonus, I'll go and get that. -Well done, you! -Absolutely. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
But again, it's looking out for the peculiar, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
something which doesn't quite make sense. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
They're brilliant at copying what an e-mail would look like. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
It did look very official, though. I can imagine some people would be | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
easily fooled into thinking it was a genuine site, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
because they do look so original, like the original sites. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
All of these things have made you a bit more wary? | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
-Yes, very much so. -You did the right thing, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
phoning them up and checking it out. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
-Do you use social media? -I do, yes. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Do you put lots of personal information on it? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
No, I keep it very, to the bare minimum. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
It's true, there's so much of the basic information that's used | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-for bank security we put on our social media accounts. -Yeah. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-You know, mother's maiden name... -Exactly. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
..date of birth, favourite pet or so on. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
It's all very accessible, unless your settings are secure. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
It sounds like you're ahead of the game compared to many, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
which is a great thing to hear. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
-JULIA: -Well, we're going to be hearing more | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
about the dangers of that in our next report. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
But before we leave our pop-up shop, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
let's catch up with some of the things you were sounding off about | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
in our Gripe Corner. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
What really annoys me is estate agents charging | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
really expensive administration costs. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
What gets my blood boiling is aggressive sales. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
They're calling me at half past eight at night, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
they stop me in the street, they don't take no for an answer, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
I'm getting junk mail through the post. It makes me furious. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
Car insurance. Like, the price of me paying each month | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
costs more than the car itself. That needs to be sorted, man - Asap. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
Now, earlier in the programme we heard about the fraudsters who very | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
nearly pulled off an audacious con trick, just by stealing a couple | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
of items of post from their victim. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Perhaps the most shocking aspect of that case was just how little | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
information the crooks needed | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
for them to get so far with their crimes. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Well, that got us thinking about how many titbits of information | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
we may all be giving away on a daily basis, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
perhaps when we're using social media accounts, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
or when we're on our phones. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Simply a name and address here, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
a date of birth or maiden name there, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
can lead to all sorts of information being used for any manner of frauds. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
There's no doubt that the internet and social media | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
have made the world a smaller place. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Family on the other side of the globe can see photos of loved ones | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
in seconds and staying up-to-date with employers and friends, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
wherever you are, can all happen at the click of a button. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
But there's a more sinister side to this information being on display | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
for millions of people to see, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
because the minutiae of your life floating around in cyberspace | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
can all too easily be pieced together by criminals | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
out to devastate your life. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Catherine Fotheringham found this out when she had her identity stolen | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
by fraudsters using information they found online. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
And it all started with the delivery of an unexpected package. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
I opened the parcel and looked in it, and it was size eight trainers. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
Well, no-one in the family has size eight trainers. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
It was from a company that I didn't know about, that I don't order from. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
So, I rang up the company | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
to question the delivery - | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
and they said an account had been opened up in my name. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
And I said I hadn't opened up an account, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and I think this is somebody fraudulently using my name. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
This set off alarm bells for Catherine, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
so she contacted a credit agency to see if her details had been used | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
in any other recent financial activities. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
I found out that at least ten other applications for, erm... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
payday loans, store cards, bank accounts, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
had all been opened up in my name. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
When I rang the bank to find out how they'd set up a bank account | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
in my name, they said it was set up online | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
and there's nothing they could do about it. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
On the account itself, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
it had a £1,000 overdraft facility on it - | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
and they could've taken that money. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Catherine set about cancelling all of these accounts, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
but as she spoke to the various companies' fraud departments, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
they kept coming back with the same question - | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
one that gave her a clue to a place where some of her personal details | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
could've been found. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
A lot of them asked me, was I a company director? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
I said yes, I was a company director, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
or had I been? I said, "Yes, I am a company director." | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
All company directors by law | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
have to be registered with Companies House - | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
and up until 2015, the Companies House website | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
published full names, addresses and dates of birth - | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
personal details that could be accessed | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
just through a quick internet search. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Exactly the sort of information Catherine believes | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
that could be used by criminals to apply for loans, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
credit and go shopping, all in her name. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
It is worrying, it is concerning. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
I can't change my name, I can't change my date of birth. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Unless I'm going to move, I can't change my address. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
So, it's really like holding back the tide, ensuring that | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
everything's in place and double-checking everything. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Well, from October 2015, Companies House stopped displaying | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
the full date of birth on its website, for precisely the reason | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
that it could potentially be used in identity fraud. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
But that was too late for Catherine, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
whose personal details had already been used and abused by criminals - | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
and there was nothing she could do about it. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
I changed my company registered premises to a different address, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
but the problem is, historically, it's out there. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Anything that gets onto the internet, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
there's not much you can do about it. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
So, there's historic information on everybody. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
But of course, it's not just one website that might display personal | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
information about us online. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
And sometimes we can make it far too easy for the criminals. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
There were almost four million cases of online fraud last year, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
and experts are warning people to take extra care with all the bits | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
and pieces of information they may inadvertently give away - | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
and nowhere is that more true than on social media, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
where many of us post personal information | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
without thinking where it might end up. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Indeed, the fraud prevention service Cifas recently produced | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
a film to demonstrate the dangers of that. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
It set up a test in a cafe which, for the purposes of the experiment, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
was offering customers a free coffee | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
in return for "liking" their shop on Facebook. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
It seems harmless enough, but there's a catch. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
OK, Carly, are you ready for the information on Damien? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-Yep, I am. -Mother's maiden name is... BLEEP | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
He banks with... BLEEP | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
By liking the cafe's page, | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
its staff and anyone else who may be looking can glean all sorts | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
of information about their customer, pulling together other details | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
that had previously been posted on Facebook. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
Yeah, got it. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
Damien, aged 26 and a fitness instructor. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
How do you know all that? | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
Ronan goes to UCL? Martin, that went to South Thames College. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-Assistant psychologist at Great Ormond Street? -How did you know that?! | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
It's a stunt that very effectively illustrates how easy it is | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
to get hold of facts that, in the wrong hands, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
could be used to help steal someone's identity. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Sandra Peaston from Cifas | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
believes we're all too relaxed about handing out our information. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
We're not suggesting that people are scared to go online, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
that they're scared to use social media, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
we're just suggesting that they're aware of what they're sharing | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
and how they're interacting with that environment. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
It's like, for example, if you've got a bike, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
you shouldn't be scared to use your bike and leave it somewhere. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
We just suggest that you'd use a big lock when you do that. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
That's something technology expert David McClelland | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
wholeheartedly agrees with. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
He's long believed that many of us risk sleepwalking into having | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
our identities stolen because of our relaxed approach | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
to the use of social media accounts. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Social networking is amazing. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
It connects people all over the world, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
it's great for social life and professional life, as well. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
But the amount of information that we share on these social networks | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
can be putting us at risk, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
so it's important we understand the dangers of sharing too much | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
of ourselves online. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
To demonstrate, David is going to see just how much | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
personal information he can glean from passers-by | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
in Sevenoaks, in Kent, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
with just their first and second names to go on. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
How safe do you feel about your online presence? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
I think fairly safe. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
I've sort of done all the safety precautions. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
I'm a teacher, so... | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
it's quite important that I hide quite a lot of my stuff. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Generally, I feel as if I have the ability | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
within all of my settings to tighten it up as best I can. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
I try to keep it as impersonal as possible. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
They all reckon they know what they're doing, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
but their confidence rapidly diminishes | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
once David does a bit of online digging. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Some pictures. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
-Mm. -I'm guessing that might be friends or family just there. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Let's see what else we've got. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
So, I can see here where you live. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Oh, yeah. Yeah. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-Yeah. -That would've been me aged... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
15, probably? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
By going to this social network, I can find out more about you. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
Yeah, if it's clear that that's my name, yes. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Oh. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
-Oh, my gosh. -Is that the university you went to, by any chance? -Yes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
How are you feeling about this, by the way? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Slightly concerned that it's quite THAT obvious. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
Hang on a minute, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
so what you've posted here are some links to another social network | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
where I can...watch a video, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
which I presume is of you. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
In a few minutes, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
David has managed to find out information about each of our | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
unwitting volunteers that he says would be enough | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
to start creating fake identities. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Were I an identity thief, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
then this would all be ammunition that I would use, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
with some other bits of information, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
to try and take some credit out in your name. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
So, David has these tips that you can do right now | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
to make sure you're not inadvertently leaving yourself | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
exposed to the fraudsters. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Social networks | 0:39:23 | 0:39:24 | |
are making it easier and easier for you to check | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
your privacy, to go through a little health check. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
There's a few little screens to see if you're sharing | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
your e-mail addresses and phone numbers, dates of birth. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
You can make it so you can change it so no-one else can see that. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
You can test, you can make a change to a setting... | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
-Yeah? -..and test straightaway | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
to see if that's giving you the control that you want. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
Fascinating. That's really helpful. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
No, I'll go and wrap that up a bit better. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
-Pleased to hear it. -Yeah. -Thank you very much. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Speaking to people today, if I'm honest, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
I'm not at all surprised at what we found. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
They thought that they were quite locked down, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
they had control over their online presence on their social networks. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
But having a look, it turns out they weren't. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
Everyone we spoke to was leaking a little bit of information | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
that would be fantastic for an identity thief | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
to take away and use to piece together that jigsaw, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
to build up that jigsaw that would enable them to do | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
anything, take out credit, take out a phone contract, whatever. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Well, our volunteers will be more cautious from now on. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
But Catherine's already being extra careful online. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
As she can never be fully sure where the fraudsters got her details from | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
in the first place, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
she's taking extra steps to monitor whether her ID | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
is still being misused by criminals. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I think it's staying alert, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
watching what's going on with all my accounts, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
watching where information is stored on my Facebook. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Before, we didn't have the web, so people had kept things close. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:55 | |
Now it goes out there. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
I think the main thing is not to put too much information | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
about yourself out there. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Cos it doesn't go away, it stays. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-GLORIA: -If you have a story you'd like us to investigate, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
then we now have even more ways you can get in touch. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
You can join in with the conversation on our Facebook page - | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
just look for BBC Rip Off Britain. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
As well as the most up-to-date news, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
you'll also find exclusive behind-the-scenes clips and pictures | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
from the show. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Or you can log onto our website, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
where there's tonnes of advice and fact sheets full of tips | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
on how you can avoid being ripped off. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Or if you'd like to send us an e-mail, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
then our address is... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
And of course, you can always send a letter to our new address... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
Well, I'm pretty sure that, just like us, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
you will have been utterly horrified at the story | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
of how Minh's house was almost stolen away from him, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
right underneath his nose, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and all because they got hold of just a few pieces of his mail. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
You know, I think we're all going to be making an extra special effort | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
to protect our post from now on, and I have to say, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
the shredder is an essential piece of kit in my house. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
-For me, I burn everything. -Equally staggering, I thought, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
was how easy it is to inadvertently leave yourself at risk | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
from ID theft, through even the simplest activity online. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
It really doesn't take much for fraudsters to piece together | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
bits of your information and then exploit it for their own advantage. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
So, please do bear in mind all the tips that we've heard today | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
on how to stay safe. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
I must say, some of the stories today have just been horrifying. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
And after my own situation, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
although it was terrible to see how much fake ID had been seized | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
by the police, it was also reassuring at the same time | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
to see just how much is being done to try and tackle the problem. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
Which I hope means that what I experienced | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
is a lot less likely to happen to somebody else. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
And at that point is where we've got to leave it for today. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
Thank you so much for your company and from the entire team, bye-bye. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
-Goodbye. -Goodbye. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:20 |