Episode 15 The Housing Enforcers


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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live...

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I worry about the fire risk here.

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..but for thousands of people across Britain,

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the reality can be more hovel than home.

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How many months ago was it we had this place cleaned?

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The whole of that bit goes black with mould.

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Hello?

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In the battle between tenants and landlords...

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-It's your fault, not the dog's fault.

-This is what you get.

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I don't care.

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-..it's local housing officers...

-What's causing that smell?

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..who are on the front line.

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The son's come out with baseball bats and knives on occasions.

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I'm Matt Allwright...

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-A lot of this problem is caused by the dogs.

-Yeah.

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-That's your responsibility.

-Yeah.

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..and I'm back on the job,

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once again, joining the ranks of the housing enforcers.

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It's got that mouse smell.

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They're tackling problem properties...

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This feels like an accident waiting to happen.

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..dealing with the consequences of nightmare neighbours...

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So, I need to tell you that you are committing an offence

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under the Housing Act.

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..and doing their best to help those in need.

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Good old Will.

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Today, I uncover one family in a housing crisis.

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Do you have a toilet in there?

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There's no toilet attached?

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Blood isn't thicker than water,

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as two housing officers find a family dispute

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has made one property uninhabitable.

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Yeah, handle's come off and he's put it on upside down, back to front.

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-Is the Sellotape a part of the feature?

-Yeah.

-Oh, right, excellent.

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And I get an insight into the pressure some landlords face

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as they try and manage their business.

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There's drugs paraphernalia.

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Yeah, we've got our suspicions as to what they're up to,

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but you couldn't prove anything.

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They've smashed the door to pieces.

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I don't know what that is on the floor.

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They say an Englishman's home is his castle

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but if that place is rented,

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it's the job of housing officers

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to make sure it's a decent place to live.

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They keep an eye on landlords

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to make sure the property is up to scratch

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and on some tenants to make sure

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they're keeping their half of the bargain.

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Newham, east London.

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It's a vibrant, multicultural borough,

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but according to council figures,

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it's not always somewhere people choose to stay.

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They have one of the highest percentages turnover of residents

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moving out of the borough after 12 months.

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Unable to afford expensive rents, many tenants who do stay

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find themselves living in unlicensed houses of multiple occupancy,

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single-family homes

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that are unlawfully rented out as individual rooms.

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I'm with planning officers Ellen Nicholson and Tiffany Mallen,

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heading to a property,

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which just a few months ago was home to 17 people,

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resulting in a landlord being served with a council closure order.

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Ooh, look.

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Clearly some changes have taken place here recently.

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Internal doors with locks have been removed.

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Tenants in shared accommodation often fit locks to their doors,

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so this could be a sign the property has been returned to a family home...

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but we need to know for sure.

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Is it OK if we just have a quick look around?

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An array of tradesmen's equipment

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suggests the landlord is doing up the place.

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The question is, as what?

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So, the work's taking place right now,

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but then if this work is turning this into a house

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of multiple occupation,

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then this is a good time to stop it, isn't it?

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We probably won't be able to tell

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whether it's going to be a house of multiple occupation

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or a family home. Obviously, we can see whether

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-they're turning it into flats or not if they've put a kitchen in.

-Yeah.

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With so much work going on, and the apparent lack of any facilities,

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you'd think the house would be empty,

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but we're in for a shock.

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-Hi.

-Hello.

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Are you living here?

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Yeah?

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Is it you and your family?

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There are still tenants here.

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The mum doesn't want to be identified.

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OK, do you mind if we have a quick look in the rooms?

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Yeah, is that OK?

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Sleeping?

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The tenant, her mother-in-law, daughter and partner

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should have moved out four months ago,

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but despite the council's order,

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and the landlord serving them with an eviction notice,

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they haven't left.

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How long have you been living here for?

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-Two years?

-OK.

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Two years is a long time to be crammed in to a house

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with 13 strangers.

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Naheeda is the partner of the woman we've just met.

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What were the conditions like?

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When did that change?

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When the council came, and the council noticed these things,

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they got the proof that there are 17 people living in this house.

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Photographs taken by the tenants show just how bad this place was.

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Overcrowded, unhygienic and riddled with damp.

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So you're living in the house like this, but the council comes in,

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they notice it and they demand changes.

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Now we're seeing the changes take place.

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-You're still here.

-I'm still here.

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And you're the only ones still in the house,

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-and you've been asked to leave several times?

-Yes.

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Naheeda came to the UK as a student

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and, although he can't claim benefits, he is allowed to work.

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But because the Home Office have kept his passport

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while he applies for an extension to his work visa,

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he currently has no ID and no way out of these conditions.

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Are you without a toilet? Do you have a toilet in there?

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What are you going to do? Are you looking for somewhere else to live?

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I am looking for somewhere but it is not easy, you know?

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Because everywhere is very difficult to get a house.

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Coming up, I find out what life is like for a family of four

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living in just one room.

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Who wants to live like this? Who?

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Every relationship has its ups and downs,

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but for many of the four million tenants living in privately

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rented accommodation across Britain, maintaining a good relationship

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with their landlord can be trickier than most.

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And when disputes do arise,

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it's all too easy for things to spiral out of control.

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In Clacton, housing officers Rob Goswell and Grant Fenton-Jones

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have had a call from a tenant, whose fears about the dangerous

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state of her home have led to a total breakdown in relations

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with her landlord.

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The complaint is no back door, which means the house is

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open to the elements for 24 hours a day. And, supposedly, we've got

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-a boiler that is connected up with an extension lead.

-Oh, right.

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The tenant claims the landlord's failure to maintain the house

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is putting her five young children at risk,

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but there's an added complication to the relationship.

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The landlord's the father

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of the lady who is the tenant in the property.

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It appears that there's been a breakdown

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in communications between both.

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The tenant, who doesn't want to be identified,

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has applied to the council to be rehoused.

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While she waits, Rob and Grant need to inspect the property to

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work out what needs to be done to make it safe.

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Right, just before we move on,

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I've just noticed you're missing your balustrade here.

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Yeah, my dad brought a sofa in, took the old one out and

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took them down to get in, broke a couple of them,

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said he'd replace them, but that's been about a year.

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-You need to have some sort of support going up and down the stairs.

-Yeah, I know.

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With three children under five living in the house,

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the lack of banisters is an accident waiting to happen,

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so it's not a great start.

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Another apparent amateur repair job has turned what should have

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been a simple fix into a safety issue.

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This handle came loose, so he took the door handle from here

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and put it like this one that goes round.

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So we changed the handles round and, because it

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didn't lock, he had a bright idea to put that on that.

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-To screw it shut.

-That's came out.

-Yeah.

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As one door closes, dangerously, another is open, permanently.

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-A completely missing door.

-It was really tight as well.

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I literally just nudged it with my bum and, as I nudged it,

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the whole thing just went, only the one door, literally just fell off.

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He was here, he witnessed the whole thing.

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He offered to go off halves to pay it and we fell out,

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and this is what he left me with.

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If she caused the damage,

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fixing the broken door is the tenant's responsibility,

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unless, as she claims, it happened as a result of the father's

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failure to maintain it properly. It's a grey area.

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But whoever's responsible, the breakdown in their relationship

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has left them with a serious problem.

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We're thinking quite a risk of entry by intruders,

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so we'll need to have this obviously reinstated.

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I've got five kids here and even my eldest, she's 11,

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and I've got one that's nine, and they're scared here. They hate it.

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Difficulty in securing the property from intruders is another

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category one hazard.

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From the roof down, the whole place is in a terrible state of disrepair.

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See this floodlight here, there's exposed wiring there.

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There's quite a bit really.

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But the electrics outside are the least of Grant's concerns.

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Inside, he's uncovered an even bigger problem

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that could prove fatal.

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All the back boxes are broken,

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so technically you could put your fingers right in there

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and touch the lives wires.

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So I'm rather concerned with children about with that like that.

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There's three of those.

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See all the Sellotape here, look.

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The exposed wiring could be a deathtrap,

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so it's yet another category one hazard.

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It's starting to look like sticky tape is the only thing

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holding this place together.

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And upstairs, it seems some bright spark has used an equally

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slapdash approach to fixing the broken boiler.

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It's been installed fairly well, but it appears there was a fault

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with it at some point,

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and somebody, cos of that reason,

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has disconnected the electrics here, wired it directly to a plug,

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an extension lead, and rigged it up and plugged it into the ring main.

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A boiler that's had its electricity supply cut then taped up

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and left live is obviously not good news for anybody.

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Added to the fact that extension leads can overheat, well,

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this boiler's just dangerous.

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It's a heck of a steep staircase, innit?

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Everywhere they turn, there is a serious threat to the

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welfare of the tenant and her children,

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even in the converted attic.

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I don't know whether it's been done with building regs or not.

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I know. It's hard to tell, isn't it?

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I'll check the records.

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Inspection complete. The danger to the family is overwhelming.

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The thing that immediately strikes me

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is the little children running around under four,

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with exposed conductors in socket outlets.

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The room upstairs has not been converted with building regs

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so it's in a pretty bad way.

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The situation would be bad enough

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if it was a simple landlord-tenant dispute,

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but the fact is they're dealing with a family at war.

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I would hazard a guess that...

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Some of it is due to...

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I would imagine, looking at it, some of it is tenant damage.

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And the father is probably fed up with replacing bits and pieces,

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or doing repairs there,

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and he's got to the point where he's given up.

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Although part of the damage to the property is down to the tenant,

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it isn't safe for the family to carry on living there.

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With so many category one hazards putting the family at risk,

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the council has issued an emergency prohibition order

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on the property and moved the family into a new home.

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Father and daughter are still not on speaking terms.

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Back in Newham, the council ordered

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the closure of a property which was unlawfully housing 17 tenants.

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The landlord's now refurbishing the place but, despite being served

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with an eviction notice two months ago, one family of four remains.

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But they're crammed into a single room with no heating or even

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basic facilities.

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How do you make this work? Because this seems to be, to me,

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-a very difficult space for four people to live in.

-I know, yeah.

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I need to manage it because I don't have any other option.

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So you've got one double bed here for three adults

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and then the cot for your daughter.

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So what are the sleeping arrangements?

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My daughter is in the cot and my wife and my mum are in the bed,

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and I'm on the floor.

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-So you go on the floor?

-Yes.

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Dad Naheeda came to the UK as a student.

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And although the Home Office is holding his passport while

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he applies for an extended visa, he is currently allowed to work.

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-Are you working at the moment?

-I'm working in retail.

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So you do a supermarket shift after sleeping on the floor here.

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How does it work in terms of baths, showers, that kind of thing?

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What do you do here?

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I forget these things, to be honest, because you see the house condition.

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-Yeah.

-If you're looking for this, you can't do anything.

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-So you've got no way...

-No way. No other option.

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Who wants to live like this? Who?

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I think the answer is nobody...

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least of all a family with a child.

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What's the main thing that is preventing you from moving

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somewhere else?

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The money is still not enough because,

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if I look for the many houses, and they say, "You have no passport."

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-We have passport in the Home Office.

-Right.

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So you have to accept somewhere like this,

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-where they don't ask those questions?

-Yes.

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So even if they do manage to scrape together enough money,

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without the necessary ID,

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Naheeda and the family could end up in another room in another

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unlicensed house of multiple occupancy.

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Thank you so much for talking to us. I really appreciate it.

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This is a complicated story.

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It's not the housing team's role to deal with passport issues,

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but Tiffany has found out even more about this family's situation.

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From what he was saying, the landlord did serve the notice

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and, from what I gather from him,

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is that they are living here rent-free.

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The landlord's taken the steps he needs to take to evict his tenants,

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but obviously they've got nowhere to go.

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So he's given them the notice to quit...

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According to him, I don't know, but this is what the tenant said.

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-And then two months have elapsed?

-Yeah.

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So they've given them the time to find somewhere new to live

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and he's still here.

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I mean, really, the tenant should have moved out in that time.

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At this point, there's no breach that we can see occurring,

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but we'll keep it open and probably come back in a couple of months and

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see if it's rented out, and see what he's doing with it at that point.

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Obviously we've only got one side of this story

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and that's from the tenant.

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They've been served with an eviction notice,

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but they're still here, over two months after that was served.

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Now, as for my friends in the planning department,

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what they can see is that what's taking place

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is what should be taking place - work is being done.

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For me, I'm looking at four people living in one room

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without a toilet, without a working kitchen, without heating,

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and I'm thinking, "How's that come about?"

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Clearly this is one property that the council needs to keep

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an eye on, so it's gone on to their list of homes to revisit.

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The good news is, though, since we met Naheeda and his family,

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they've managed to find accommodation elsewhere.

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They're the kind of scenes I've grown used to in rented properties

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up and down the country -

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mess, rubbish, smell.

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I don't even know what that is.

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It must be terrible to rent a place like this,

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but imagine if you own it

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and you're landed with the job of clearing it up.

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So often I've heard the perspective of the tenant.

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Now I'm keen to hear from the other side.

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So I've come to Sandwell, to a landlord steering group that's

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operated by the local council.

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I think it's pretty important for all of us

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to be aware of what our properties are being used for.

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It's a platform for local landlords to have a voice.

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It's here I meet Tommy Billingham.

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He owns 30 rental properties in the area.

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If you do get a bad tenant, someone who lets you down on the rent,

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what difference does that make to your finances?

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It makes a massive, massive difference because on a normal

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buy-to-let property you probably earn, over 12 months,

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£1,500, £2,000 tops.

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-That's profit?

-Profit, yeah, out of one house.

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If you've got one bad tenant

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and they don't pay rent for a few months, trash the place,

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leave owing money, that could cost you £5-6,000 easy

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and that's three years' profit for that one house.

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And also that could be putting other people at risk.

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Because if you can't pay your bills and your mortgage,

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the bank will just come along, repossess your whole portfolio,

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kick everyone out.

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So it seems one bad tenant can cause problems for more than just

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the landlord. It can put other renters' homes at risk.

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If you've had a dodgy tenant, you'll certainly know all about it.

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Tommy's inspecting one of his properties

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that has just been vacated.

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I think they left about two weeks ago,

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but they didn't give me any notice.

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I only found out about it yesterday that they've actually left.

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It's not a pretty sight.

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So, the kitchen, the kitchen door's broken

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and they've scraped all the skirting boards off, so they need replacing.

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It smells of rotten food and dog.

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I don't know what that is on the floor.

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I haven't... I haven't got down there to smell it.

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Yeah, the bath hasn't even been emptied.

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However long that's been there I'm not sure.

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I have to just keep reminding myself it is a business,

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even though it still hurts.

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It may be part of the job for a landlord,

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but it's certainly not fun.

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Later, in Sandwell, I'll see for myself the impact of a problem tenant.

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This is literally how it's been left?

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That's how they left it.

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If you're renting a house, a flat or even just a room to somebody,

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that makes you a landlord,

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which means you are required by law to provide a decent

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and safe standard of accommodation.

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In Stafford, housing officer Chris Butcher wants to make sure

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landlords take their responsibilities

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to their tenants seriously.

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We're pretty lucky in Stafford. Most landlords want to work with us

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and want to provide good quality accommodation.

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Good landlords have to pay their way and undertake repairs,

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and apply for licences.

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It's only fair that we take action against bad landlords who seek

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to make profit by giving poor conditions to their tenants.

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Chris is checking up on a property which was converted into bedsits

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without having the correct licence.

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To make matters worse, the landlord tried to cram even more

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rooms into the house by installing dodgy chipboard partition walls.

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Chris ordered these to be removed

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and for a suitable fire alarm system to be fitted,

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but in the months since his last inspection

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it seems nothing's changed.

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I'm certainly very concerned that no works have taken place,

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so far that I can see.

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This is a wall that the landlord's put up to divide what used to be,

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presumably, the living room to create an extra bedroom

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and there's somebody living in here.

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It's not really very stable, there's gaps around the top.

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This wouldn't really help in case of fire and, at present,

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there is no real smoke alarms.

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There's not really a good lock on the door, so anyone could

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sort of access, get in and out, they could just undo these.

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So I'm really quite worried about it.

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The landlord hasn't complied with the council's improvement order.

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That's not just bad news for Chris, it must be pretty

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frustrating for the five tenants still living here too.

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When you have more than two people who are not related

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and share facilities -

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so a group of students or just people who are renting rooms -

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this is called a house of multiple occupation.

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And there are some laws in place designed to ensure those

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people are safe in their homes,

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and they are around fire safety and disrepair.

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It's clear this house in multiple occupation isn't safe

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and therefore not fit for purpose.

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So this is obviously the bedroom.

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You can see the construction isn't really anything to make up about.

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This is just some studs that have been created.

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Here's the key meter for the electricity.

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The problem is that it's inside a potentially locked bedroom.

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It's just not in an ideal position.

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You can see that there's these portable heaters, so there's no real

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heating in here apart from this portable and lots of trailing plugs.

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So, that's not great, at all.

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Hazards like those chipboard partitions and the ropey heater

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make having a decent smoke alarm system especially important.

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So what I've got is a battery-powered alarm,

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so it means that it's not interlinked with the rest of the house.

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The only time that will go off is

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when smoke has come from one of the other rooms,

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and there's a real risk that they'll have a very serious fire occur

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before residents and occupants know that it's happened.

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I would expect them to have interlinked,

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mains-wired smoke detectors throughout.

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By law, landlords have to keep their rented properties safe

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and free from health hazards.

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It appears that might not be happening here.

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These stairs might be fine

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if you were just accessing the loft for storage in your home,

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but there's no hand rail around the sides.

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Each of the steps are in a different position -

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it makes it quite difficult to get up and down safely.

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On Chris' last inspection, this loft space was empty.

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But, judging by the new bed and the belongings, the landlord hasn't

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just ignored the improvement order,

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they've brought even more tenants in.

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The first thing is that there's no smoke alarm up here,

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which I would expect considering that this is in the loft.

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There is no form of fixed heating.

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I can see a plug-in heater on that side of the room.

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It's just not suitable as a bedroom. It's not been kitted out for it.

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I think the next thing to do is to go talk with

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the landlord about what his intention is.

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Whether he intends to apply for a licence and get building works

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done to make this safe and secure

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or, more likely, for him to stop using it as a bedroom

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and get it properly shut off.

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It's quite a list,

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but it sounds like the council's demands are the final

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straw for the landlord.

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Because a few weeks later, Chris has some news.

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I think the landlord's decided that running bedsits

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wasn't really for them.

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It's not really their main line of work,

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so they decided to move in themselves,

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which I think is probably a very good idea.

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I'll visit again in a couple of months' time, just to make sure

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they've done what they've said they are going to do,

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but I'm pretty confident that it's going to be OK.

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In my role as a wannabe housing officer,

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I've been hearing the private landlords' take on things.

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Before you realise that it's gone bad ways,

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you're thousands of pounds down in lost rent.

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And here in Sandwell in the West Midlands,

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someone who knows the realities of being a professional landlord

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is bedsit big shot Jim Haliburton.

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-Hi, Jim. How are you?

-Hello, Matt.

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-Good to see you.

-Is this the place here?

-That's it.

-Let's have a look.

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You go in.

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Jim is a buy-to-let HMO mogul,

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with an incredible 160 rental properties on his books,

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the majority of which are rented out by unemployed tenants.

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In fact, Jim even runs courses teaching others the economics and

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practicalities of putting multiple tenants into a single property.

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Not all landlords will take on tenants that receive housing benefits.

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And I'm here to see a property of his that's just been vacated.

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So what's the story here?

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There's obviously... I mean, there's drugs paraphernalia.

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Yeah, I think they were definitely into drugs.

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This is not natural behaviour from tenants,

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and it only represents a very small minority of who my tenants are,

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but it goes to show how disruptive drugs are.

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If you put drugs in your body,

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you obviously don't care about yourself

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and you're certainly not going to care about the landlord's property.

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How often would you say from your tenants, your DSS tenants,

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you end up with this kind of situation?

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An unsatisfactory end to the tenancy.

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I've got 480 unemployed tenants

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and we've probably got less than 1% who are a problem.

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But these 1% cause enormous problems.

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I've had properties that have been completely stripped of all

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copper and materials. They cause problems to other tenants,

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but it's part and parcel of what you do.

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From what you're saying, it sounds like you're saying, if you're going

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to house people at that end of the market,

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this is the natural by-product,

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which you can mitigate as much as possible and try and learn from.

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Don't be a landlord if this is going to upset you

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because you won't hack it.

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So problem tenants are an occupational hazard, says Jim.

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He also says that the majority of his properties

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and tenants cause him no problems at all,

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as we see with his next flat, which is basic but clean.

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Yes, I'd like to provide lovely properties in the country

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with lovely gardens and fountains etc.

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But, unfortunately, the reality is, what can people afford?

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Who is going to house these other people?

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Who is going to house the people who want that accommodation?

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They choose to live there.

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There is a real place for enforcement

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and I find it a bit concerning that you don't see that.

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I can't change the world.

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The enforcement's here.

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I'm entitled to my view.

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I think the market regulates itself pretty well from my experience

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and I couldn't get away with giving substandard properties.

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If the property was damp and cold,

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the tenants would just get up and go.

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They will not stay in that kind of accommodation.

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If it wasn't for the council coming in and looking

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at the state that they're living in, and doing something about it...

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And closing the property down.

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..and dealing with it, one way or the other, then that problem...

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That's just not the case.

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The way of dealing with it is to close the property down.

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It's not, it's not.

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No, it's not because they will do, the majority of housing officers

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I've worked with will do anything to avoid evictions.

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What they will do is they will deal with the landlord wherever possible,

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when the landlord is present, and try and make it liveable, habitable,

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even in the short-term.

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-Lovely to meet you, Jim.

-My pleasure.

-Take care.

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-Safe journey home.

-Cheers.

-Bye.

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So, one of the West Midlands' biggest landlords

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and a self-professed leading light in how to run a HMO - that's bedsits

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to you and me - is saying, yes, he's providing a valuable service,

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providing accommodation for people who wouldn't

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be able to find it elsewhere. That's fine.

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But he's also saying that he doesn't feel the need for enforcement.

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There doesn't need to be a man from the council checking that

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he's adhering to basic standards because,

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if the tenants didn't like it,

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they'd get up and they'd find somewhere else to live.

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All very well and good, as long as those tenants have got

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other options, other places they can live.

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We've seen far too many people who don't have any other options.

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That's it for today. Join me, next time, on the front line

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with Britain's housing officers.

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