Episode 18 The Housing Enforcers


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Hello? Can you just let me in?

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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live.

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I wouldn't keep my dog there, is the honest truth.

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But for thousands of people across the UK,

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the reality can be more hovel than home.

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The house is falling to bits. There's nothing I can do.

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In the battle for decent housing...

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We've just got conditions that are just appalling.

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I don't know how the people are coping, to be quite honest.

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..it's local housing officers who are on the front line.

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If somebody had've died here,

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you would've been standing in the coroner's court.

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I'm Matt Allwright and I'm back with the housing enforcers.

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-15 people in this house?

-15 people in total living in here.

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I'll be with them as they tackle

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problem properties and slum conditions...

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It really does look a shanty town.

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Yeah, it's not up to standard.

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..as they deal with dodgy landlords, nightmare neighbours

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and everything in between...

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Oh, my God, straight away, there's the smell of dog muck.

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You never know what you're going to find.

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..to help those in need of a happy and healthy home.

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Today, a landlord who's carved up a family house

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ignores council orders to put things right.

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Now they've been partitioned off, this middle room is like a hellhole.

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-There's no lights, no ventilation.

-No, exactly.

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-It's just the worst option, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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A mysterious damp problem puts a family's health in danger.

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It's disgusting. It does leak into the light switch as well.

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So I tell the boys not to turn on the bathroom light at all

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because I don't want them getting electrocuted.

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Housing officers step in to solve a dispute over a tiny kitchen.

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Basically, the kitchen, it doesn't meet

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the kind of ten-square-metre requirement.

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But there's just so much space in the rest of the house.

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It's about if you had all those people trying to cook.

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It's about giving them that extra space.

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And one man and his dog find happiness in a new home.

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Every day is going to be a happy day here, I think.

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Every day will be, definitely.

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Just to know I can just pop down the road

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and see my grandchildren and my children.

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We might not always know it,

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but there are people from every local council

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whose job it is to make sure we have a safe roof over our heads.

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I'm working alongside the men and the women

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who use the law to make sure we don't live in slums,

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but in homes fit to raise a family or enjoy our retirement.

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They can make sure that you have the facilities you need

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as you get older.

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They also have the power to start the process

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that can send a bad landlord to prison or help evict a bad tenant.

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They are...the housing enforcers.

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There's a housing shortage in London,

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so landlords are keen to plug the gap

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by converting family houses into shared homes.

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But in the London borough of Newham,

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the council takes a dim view of properties

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that are unlawfully converted.

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They reckon that a quarter of all rental properties in their patch are shared houses,

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what they call houses of multiple occupation,

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and not all of them have planning permission.

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Housing officer Stephen Pavett is taking me to one of them.

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It's got an unusual history.

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This one has two enforcement notices on it.

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People were collecting scrap metal and storing it at the property.

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So the house itself was being used as a scrap metal dealership or storage?

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Yeah, essentially, by the people who were living there.

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Erm...last time I visited.

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I'd found that the use had ceased as a scrap metal storage,

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but the large home of multiple occupation was still occurring.

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And the choice to go to prosecution would be based upon the level of risk

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that those people are being exposed to?

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Yeah, it is a last resort. We're left with no option

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than to consider prosecuting the owner for this.

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Since April 2015, Newham Council have carried out 400 inspections of shared houses

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and that's resulted in 200 prosecutions or cautions.

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This property's a small terraced house on a quiet residential street.

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Not somewhere you would expect scrap metal to be stored,

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or a large number of people to be living.

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Hello. We're from the planning department from Newham Council.

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We're here today to do an inspection of the property at the moment.

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I want to see all of the house today.

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Yes? OK?

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We need to come in, please.

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Which bed are you sleeping in?

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So we've come into the front room and straight away there are...

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there's one bed, there's a sofa, and there's a mattress.

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And it looks like all three have been slept in.

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But the guy that Steve is speaking to claims just to be a guest

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and not living here at all.

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So in there, Stephen, straight away it looks like we've got three guys sleeping.

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-There's the bed, there's the mattress on the floor and then there's the sofa.

-Sofa, yeah.

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The chap there claims to be a guest and not here long-term.

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-But it just...

-Yeah.

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I mean, he showed me some ID saying he was from...

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that he lives in Barking, which is just down the road.

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-So if he's sleeping here, I find that a bit unusual...

-Mm-hm.

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..to find why he would be sleeping here, if he lives just down the road.

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So, we've got two people currently there,

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the third one's not in.

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But, yeah, it looks like it's occupied by three people in that one room.

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The downstairs of the property has been converted,

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creating an additional windowless room

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in the middle of the ground floor.

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OK, so there's no-one in this room.

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No, there is. There's a chap asleep there.

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He is there, too.

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So you've got another guy asleep here

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and you've got a bed,

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no windows at all.

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You've got rows and rows of suitcases here.

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So this bedroom looks as if it's occupied by at least two individuals, if not more.

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Double and a single.

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So you've got five people so far in these two rooms

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and all the signs of, you know, a large number of people living here.

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I'm only going to find more bedrooms upstairs, I think, when we go up there.

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So let's carry on.

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All of these houses that we see, these terraces,

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used to have big, long living rooms that went all the way through

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for a family to sit in together, with a dining room maybe at the back.

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-That's right.

-And now they're being partitioned off.

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-This middle room is like a hellhole. It's horrible.

-Yes.

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-There's no lights.

-There's no ventilation.

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-There's no ventilation.

-No, exactly.

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It's just... It's the worst option, isn't it?

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Yeah. It's an option where people have no choice.

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They'll end up in this sort of level of accommodation.

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That's what we're seeing.

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So already we've seen the ground floor fully kitted out as bedrooms.

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Yeah.

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And it's not living, communal space at all,

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as you'd expect for a family.

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So I can only think that the rest of the property is going to be of a similar nature.

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While housing officers are more interested in the numbers of people in these small family homes,

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I'm concerned about the deeply unpleasant conditions,

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which also extend to the essential facilities.

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-So this is the downstairs bathroom.

-Yeah.

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We've got a toilet, a sink and shower

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and that's right next to the...

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To the kitchen. Not the best set-up here to have, really, hygienically-wise.

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There's no natural light in this bathroom.

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-Not once the door's shut.

-No.

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Ventilation is very poor.

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It's got a lot of mould and mildew growing.

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The kitchen and the bathroom seem to be in pretty poor condition.

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-The kitchen has a feeling of coming in for some pretty heavy use.

-Yeah.

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And the stove... Obviously, they're not worrying about cleaning particularly.

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All these people and use, again, will attract things like mice, rats.

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Over use of the property, really, and not being cleaned.

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I'm going to open a cupboard and I'm going to see my arch enemy - the cockroach.

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He's long gone.

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Well, no cockroaches, but the poor state of the kitchen

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and mould and mildew in the bathroom,

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coupled with a lot of people living in close proximity,

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is not a good mix.

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And we haven't even ventured upstairs yet.

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It looks as though there are people occupying the upstairs bedrooms.

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I can see things in windows.

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So I think, if we wander up there now and have a look and see if they're awake...

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So five so far on the ground floor.

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Yeah.

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Coming up...

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We discover even more people living upstairs.

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So we've got here two more.

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So that's... I think we're up to seven so far.

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Up to seven people so far, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Damp and mould are among the most common causes of complaint

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to housing departments all over the UK.

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But you don't expect to find them in a modern, purpose-built block of flats like this one.

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In Wolverhampton in the West Midlands,

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mum Kattrina Haney and her two sons moved into a flat here three years ago.

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But since then, she says damp has got steadily worse,

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making electrical sockets dangerous and damaging the family's health.

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OK, well, this started off as a leak.

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Just a damp patch.

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And it's obviously got a lot worser.

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It comes down right into the back of the cupboards.

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It's disgusting and it's in the next one, too.

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The flat is privately owned,

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but leased and managed by a housing association.

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After three years of asking them to help,

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Kattrina finally contacted her local council.

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Housing officer Ravi Phull took up Kattrina's case

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and got in touch with the owner of the flat on her behalf,

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advising them that work needed to be done.

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It started the day I signed my contract, actually.

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It was just a damp patch.

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A little, light faded patch.

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And they says that someone was going to come out and fix it.

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You know, clean it up and repaint it.

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But no-one's ever been since.

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So it's been going on for three years.

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Got worser over the years, obviously.

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And now it's just a state. It's disgusting.

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There's a smell to it. You know, a damp smell.

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Horrible.

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It's disgusting.

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And it's not just the kitchen.

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OK, this is the hallway.

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Obviously, it's all come out into the hallway down the frame.

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All the ceiling is starting to turn black now.

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It does leak into the light switch, as well.

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So I tell the boys not to turn on the bathroom light at all

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because I don't want them getting electrocuted.

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This is the bedroom where I sleep.

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And it's all in the ceiling there, where the flue runs.

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It runs down, straight down the wall.

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As you can see, the wood is coming away from the ceiling,

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and it's mould again.

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This is not only nasty to look at.

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Living in an atmosphere of mould and damp can also be a health hazard,

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affecting the immune system and aggravating asthma attacks -

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something Kattrina's sons already suffer from.

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The dirtiness of it.

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And having two children, it's not hygienic at all,

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especially them having asthma.

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I mean, one's got a chest infection now and has been off school since last week

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and the other one's got tonsillitis.

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So living in this environment is not helping them at all.

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I've complained to the housing association that I rent the property from.

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Someone should have already been out and dealt with it.

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But I've never had an appointment for anybody to come.

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I phoned the council because I think the housing association would listen to them more

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than they'd maybe listen to me.

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And I'd get somewhere a bit more quicker,

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after waiting so long already.

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The council listened to Kattrina.

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But did the landlord and the housing association respond?

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Ravi's arrived at Kattrina's flat to see if the repairs have been done.

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This is a revisit of a property.

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An inspection was carried out.

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Hazards were identified.

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The landlord was written out to

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and we're just doing a re-inspection

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to see how much of the works have been complied with or have been done.

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Ravi wants to know if anything's happened

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since the council stepped in.

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Repairs and maintenance are the responsibility of the landlord.

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But he or she would expect to be alerted to any problems by the housing association,

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who are managing the flat.

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What's been done?

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The boiler's been repaired.

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It was leaking constantly.

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And that's been repaired.

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And the lights in the kitchen.

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What was wrong with the lights in the kitchen? Remind me again.

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Water had leaked into them and they just kept blowing.

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Carrying out these repairs has definitely made a difference.

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But Ravi knows that, unless the source of the problem has been found and dealt with,

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the damp won't go away.

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Has the water stopped leaking?

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Well, I haven't had no leaks, the buckets are empty.

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So the leaks have stopped.

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So did they actually find the cause of the leak and remedy it

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or did it just stop itself?

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-The leaks do stop and carry on and stop and carry on.

-OK.

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Someone did come out,

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says the leak could be from my boiler or the man who lives upstairs.

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-That's what I'm saying, because it's coming from above, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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But all the pipings, because the pipings run...

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-Mine run down and his run down, I think, the man said.

-OK.

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But no-one's actually been out and investigated the leak.

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If the other tenants are having problems, too,

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there could be a serious underlying issue with this building.

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The man upstairs called his agent, because we're with different agencies.

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-He did say that he had a leak in his boiler.

-OK.

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So that could be the cause of what's happened in my kitchen.

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So even though the leak's in his flat...

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Until we go in there, we won't know.

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But there's no hazards. It's creating hazards in your flat, right?

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But then there's downstairs, as well.

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He knocked me and says there is a leak. Have I got something leaking?

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-So you're potentially leaking downstairs.

-Yeah.

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-So there seems to be a systemic problem.

-Yeah.

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-OK. Can we have a look in the other room?

-Yeah.

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Oh, goodness me! OK.

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-It's vile.

-Yeah, OK.

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It's just too much.

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And having two kids, as well, right next to the sink.

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All right. Well, obviously, there is also a concern

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because of the water coming in from upstairs.

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We've also got a concern if it's getting into the electrics,

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which is a even bigger issue, really.

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-I have got a damp patch around my electric box.

-Right.

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But it's not, like, a leak, it's just a patch.

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The bathroom is a similar story to the kitchen.

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Water has been seeping into the electrical sockets.

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Ravi isn't happy about this.

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Nor is she happy about the amount of mould the family are living with.

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It's even crept into Kattrina's bedroom.

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Ravi wants the source found and this flat cleaned up and made safe.

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Damp is the main issue.

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-And it is bad.

-It is bad.

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So what we're now going to do

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is we're going to get on to the next stage -

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to serve notice on the landlord.

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He's going to be charged for that notice, as well,

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because there's a fine that comes with it.

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And if they don't comply with the notice,

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then we will look to prosecute them.

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The council can now make sure

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that action is taken to put things right for Kattrina and her sons.

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There isn't anything else I need to do today.

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But as I said, you know, as soon as possible now,

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what we'll do is we'll serve notice on your landlord.

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This is a major...

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You know, this is a major thing.

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And that you've got it in your bedroom, as well.

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In a bedroom, you can't get away from it.

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-You know, you're spending an X number of hours in that room.

-Sleeping, too.

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Yeah. Whereas, you know, you nip in and out of your bathroom, you nip in and out of the kitchen.

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It affects you mentally having these things in your property,

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which we also do take into account.

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And you'll hear from us.

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-You'll get a copy of all the notices served et cetera, as well.

-OK.

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-Thank you very much for your help.

-All right, no worries.

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It's Ravi's job to make sure that standards in the flat are improved

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to make it a safe environment for all the family.

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She has no hesitation in getting straight on to the housing association and the landlord

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to remind them of their obligations.

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They need to dig a little further into where the leak's coming from,

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if the leak has actually been stopped now.

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The biggest issue now was the damp itself and the mould growth.

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And it is...it's extensive.

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And this is something that the landlord needs to be looking into doing

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and really getting a proper contractor out here

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to make sure that it's not just a case of just patching up visibly whatever is there,

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but to make sure that whatever is going on doesn't recur.

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Kattrina turned to the council for help

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because she says she was unable to get the housing association to do the work.

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She's hoping it won't be long now before the mysterious hidden leak can be located

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and the damp and mould are finally cleaned up for good.

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The agents for the property told us that, under the terms of Miss Harvey's tenancy agreement,

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she should have reported defects straight to them

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but, instead, she reported them to the council.

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When they were told of the issues, they said they inspected the property

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and, as a responsible housing association,

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agreed to repair and to recharge the costs back to the landlord,

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in line with the terms of the lease.

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They also said some repairs had already been done

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and they'd contacted the tenant on several occasions to do more work,

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but had been unable to arrange access to the flat.

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Earlier, housing officer Stephen Pavett

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showed me a terraced house in Newham, East London.

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The council has served two enforcement notices on the landlord

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because the property was being used to store scrap metal

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and it's been unlawfully converted into bedsits.

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I want to see all of the house today.

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Yes? OK?

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Stephen's here to check if the landlord's changed the property back to a single home.

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He reckons that as many as five people were living on the ground floor alone.

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All right, so we've got three doors here.

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Hello. From the planning department. Newham Council.

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I just need to have a quick look around your room, please.

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-Are you living here in this room by yourself?

-Yes.

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Just yourself.

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-How much rent do you pay per month for the room?

-£400.

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£400.

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How long have you lived here?

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-Two or three months.

-Yeah.

-OK.

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What's it like living here? Is it OK or is it...?

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-Yeah?

-Yeah.

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And do you have a tenancy agreement or anything like that that you pay rent to?

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How do you pay your money?

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So you pay the money to someone in the house

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and they pay the money to someone else? OK.

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Thank you.

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It's worrying that this tenant doesn't pay his rent directly to the landlord,

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but to one of the other tenants in the house.

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Another bedroom here.

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But it seems like, from what the other guy was saying,

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-that he's paying his rent to somebody else here.

-Yeah.

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So there's a possibility that it's being sublet?

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It could be that there's a lead tenant here,

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who's got the lease of the property and they're subletting it out

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and renting it out to all these other individuals, who are at the property.

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We won't know that until we do a bit more investigation,

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but that does look like the case.

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Is there sometimes the case

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where actually the owners have no idea what's going on within their property,

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that it's being let out without their knowledge?

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Yeah, it could be that.

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But, you know, it's up to the owners and the landlords to know what's going on in their own property

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and for them to carry out checks if they need to.

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But whichever way you look at it,

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it seems there are still too many people living in this house.

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So we've got here two more.

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So that's... I think we're up to seven so far.

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Up to seven people so far, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's over six people.

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OK, so over six to be a large house of multiple occupation,

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for which a special licence is needed.

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-Planning permission is needed for the planning department.

-Right.

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-They'd also need a licence from the housing department, as well.

-OK.

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So the plus side is we haven't seen any scrap metal here.

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No. But we're here to see all the rooms, but...

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-We've got one more room to go in.

-We've got one more room.

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But, no. I'd safely say that that use is still ceased.

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But we've got the bigger issue, which is this use of a large home of multiple occupation.

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Yeah, we don't know how many people are there on a regular basis.

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-There might be flexible numbers.

-Yeah, coming in and out.

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-Hello. I'm from the planning department from the council.

-Yeah.

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We need to just have a quick look around your room, please.

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Thank you.

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Are you living here at the moment?

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So how long have you lived in here?

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So in this room he's got a couple...

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..and a double bed and that's it.

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So how much rent a month do you pay for the room?

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For which bit, the whole property?

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So are you the gentleman who's got the lease of this property?

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Right. So how much do you actually pay yourself?

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Right, OK.

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The plot thickens.

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The couple in this room

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appear to be looking after the bills for the whole house,

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although the gentleman says that someone else, who left recently, owns the lease to the house.

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It's possible that the owner of the house is unaware

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that his tenant is subletting rooms.

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Is there a tenancy agreement for the property at all, do you know?

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OK.

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All right. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Sorry to disturb you.

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From Stephen's investigations,

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it looks like as many as nine people may be living in this house.

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It's supposed to be a family home,

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but none of them appear to be related to each other.

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One of the things I really like about Newham

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is that it's really straightforward here.

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You know, we could see that there were things wrong with that property,

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you know, in terms of the condition.

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-But actually, this is a planning matter.

-Yes.

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There just shouldn't be that many people living in that way in that house.

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It is simply how many people are occupying the property.

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And it's not a shared home.

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No-one seems to be doing much cleaning.

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So it's a case of the people don't know each other,

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just live in one room and are isolated and that's not what we want.

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It has to go back to a family dwelling and that's all there is about it.

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There's no other use they can use for that property at this stage in Newham.

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So the next step, then.

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Are we looking at a prosecution here?

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Yeah, I've sent letters of warning of a prosecution in the past.

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And this further visit just confirms it's still in breach of our notice.

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Even with the warning of a prosecution,

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the owners still haven't done anything about putting it back to a single family home.

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So we've got nowhere else to go now,

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other than to look to pursuing more proceedings as a prosecution.

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The council have since told us that they didn't find enough evidence

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to prove that the property was still being used as a shared house.

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However, they say they'll keep on visiting

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to make sure that compliance with the enforcement notice continues.

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Defending our right to a safe place to live

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is the job of housing officers right across the UK.

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This is not really an acceptable way of leaving the property behind.

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Do you think?!

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I'm working alongside the men and women that do exactly that.

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-Top marks.

-Yes!

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I'm hitting the streets...

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That's ready to collapse.

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..finding out what's happening on the front line...

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The cistern's in the bath.

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I don't know how they flush it.

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..and learning what it takes to make sure

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a house is fit to be called a home.

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I'm very shocked. This is ridiculous.

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You shouldn't have people living in here.

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With a thriving business economy and tourist trade,

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not to mention thousands of students,

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housing in Oxford is in huge demand.

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So, for landlords, there are rich rewards to be had

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from renting out every available room.

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Housing officer Katherine Coney's job

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is to make sure these homes are fit for purpose.

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So in Oxford, landlords need a licence for any property they're renting to three or more people

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who aren't in the same family.

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The licence comes with conditions designed to make the house a safe and comfortable place to live.

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Katherine is on her way to a shared house,

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where the landlord does have a licence,

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but he's recently increased the number of tenants by adding an extra bedroom.

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-Hi, Jacqui.

-Hi.

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-Hi, I'm Katherine. Nice to meet you, Jacqui.

-Shall we...?

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Katherine is meeting Jacqui Edwards, the landlord's agent.

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With six people now living in the house, instead of five,

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the landlord should also have increased the facilities for his tenants.

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But it seems he's hoping his agent will persuade the council

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he doesn't need to do the work.

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So, obviously, I've come here today

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because the landlord is not happy with what we've asked him to do on the licence.

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So I just need to have a look around the whole property,

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look in the rooms.

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So if we start in the kitchen?

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Yep, that's fine. Just through there.

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The kitchen is at the heart of this dispute.

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Five is the absolute maximum number of people the council will allow

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to share a kitchen of this size.

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Now there are six people in the house, the room just isn't big enough.

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And more bad news for the landlord...

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The facilities are inadequate.

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Five is the magic number.

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When you go from five to six, you need double.

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And then, when you go from ten to 11, you need double.

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So for every group of five, there's an increase in the number of facilities you need.

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You would need to have two cookers.

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Although we do accept the microwave as the second cooker.

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You'd also need two sinks.

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Though, again, we would accept a dishwasher as a second washing facility.

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And we'd also ask for two fridges and freezers,

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as opposed to the one that they've just got here.

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Katherine is here to enforce the rules

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designed to make sure the kitchen is big enough for tenants to cook safely.

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But Jacqui claims the tenants have no complaints

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and doesn't want the landlord to have to pay for improvements.

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It's deadlock.

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So, basically, the kitchen, it doesn't meet the kind of ten-square-metre requirements.

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But there's just so much space in the rest of the house.

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And, like, the tumble dryer, the washing machine are all...

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there's a little utility room over there.

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So I'm struggling to understand what more space in the kitchen would do for everybody.

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Well, it's about if you had all those people trying to cook.

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-It's about giving them that extra space.

-Yeah.

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And so, you know,

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we'd need to fit in a second sink somehow.

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-There is a dishwasher in the utility room.

-OK.

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I know it isn't ideal, but, yeah.

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You know, and the fridge. So it's about trying to fit another one in.

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And there is another fridge in the other room.

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Because I know, if you have an open living room and kitchen area,

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it needs to be 24 square metres.

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The living room is 27 square metres, so there's plenty of space.

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So I struggle to see...

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They don't all cook at the same time.

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There haven't been problems.

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You can't say Jacqui's not trying every angle.

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I do understand where you're coming from,

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but, you know, we do have the kitchen as a sort of a minimum number.

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And while you've obviously got the extra space,

0:28:050:28:08

-it's about having that extra space in here.

-Yep.

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I mean, we could look at the layout

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and whether there's anything that could be done.

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-There might be that possibility.

-Yeah, that would be good.

0:28:180:28:20

It would be interesting to see if you have any thoughts on what we could do to make it work.

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Jacqui is keen to minimise costs to her client, the landlord.

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But pointing out that there is a utility room at the other end of the house

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and that the living room is quite spacious

0:28:340:28:36

doesn't seem to be cutting any ice with Katherine.

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The kitchen is fairly small and compact.

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And so, if you had more people, they would struggle to do the cooking.

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And also, not being able to have the dishwasher and all the facilities in the same room

0:28:470:28:52

doesn't really enable good cooking,

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especially if you've got to go to another room to get your food out of the fridge or freezer.

0:28:540:28:59

Coming up...

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We find out if Jacqui's arguments measure up

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or if Katherine lays down the law.

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So most kitchens have the washing machine and all that stuff in there.

0:29:060:29:09

So that just doesn't even... We can't count any of that space?

0:29:090:29:13

No, you can't count any of that space.

0:29:130:29:15

-That's just the utility space.

-Yeah.

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There's a saying that home is where the heart is.

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But for some people, their home is in one place

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and their heart is somewhere entirely different.

0:29:290:29:32

In Stroud, housing officer Rachel Pugh

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is waiting to welcome a new tenant

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who's taken the huge step of giving up his home

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and moving 200 miles to be closer to the people he loves the most.

0:29:390:29:43

We're meeting Mr Weston today.

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He's relocating from Ipswich to be nearer his family.

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So from being very isolated, he's moving a lot closer

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to everybody and he's really excited about it.

0:29:520:29:55

He might be excited now,

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but still in Ipswich, Pete Weston's decision to up sticks and move

0:29:570:30:00

three-and-a-half hours away from his home

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hasn't been an easy one.

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One of my sons and his girlfriend moved down to Stroud,

0:30:050:30:08

where they'd been given a job.

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Four or five years later, my youngest son, he moved there, as well,

0:30:090:30:12

which then left me here on my own.

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Which was about seven or eight years ago, I think.

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Despite feeling increasingly isolated in his own home

0:30:180:30:22

and with only his dog Saffy for company,

0:30:220:30:24

even pleas from his family to join them

0:30:240:30:27

weren't enough to convince him to pack up his whole life and start again somewhere new.

0:30:270:30:31

They were always saying that I should move down there and I was agreeing,

0:30:320:30:37

but I could never see a way of doing it, for some reason.

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It seemed such a daunting thing to do, to have to move

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after all these years in the same place.

0:30:430:30:45

Despite the fact that your sons from a distance are saying, "It'll be all right, Dad,

0:30:450:30:49

"we'll do everything for you."

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Pete's worries were made worse by health problems

0:30:510:30:53

caused by a medical condition which severely affects his nervous system.

0:30:530:30:58

It causes quite severe muscle spasms

0:30:580:31:01

in the upper back and the legs and feet mostly,

0:31:010:31:04

which can be incredibly painful.

0:31:040:31:07

So doing something like moving, trying to arrange everything,

0:31:080:31:11

think of what needs to be done and when

0:31:110:31:13

is incredibly difficult, it really is.

0:31:130:31:15

I still had this thought in my mind, "It's just too much.

0:31:150:31:18

"I won't be able to do it, I'm better off just staying where I am."

0:31:180:31:22

Which is silly because, behind that, I know I'll be better off with them.

0:31:220:31:28

But finally, Pete found the courage to take the plunge.

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Just six weeks after applying for a place on Stroud District Council's housing list,

0:31:310:31:35

they offered him a new home.

0:31:350:31:37

Now Pete can't wait to have his family just round the corner.

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I haven't seen a great deal of them over the years.

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I mean, my children have been up here with my grandchildren,

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but it's not the same as having lived near them for any length of time.

0:31:490:31:53

So I'm really looking forward to going down there and spending time with them.

0:31:530:31:57

It'll be absolutely brilliant.

0:31:570:31:59

With the big day here,

0:31:590:32:01

it's housing officer Rachel's job to oversee the handover

0:32:010:32:04

and help get the council's newest tenant settled into his new home.

0:32:040:32:08

It was almost ready when he saw it last time.

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And he seemed really pleased.

0:32:120:32:14

So I hope he's going to be thrilled with the final result.

0:32:140:32:17

And I shall be signing a few bits of paper with him, make it all official.

0:32:170:32:21

Pete's all packed up and on the road.

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But the move's happening so quickly, reality hasn't quite sunk in.

0:32:240:32:29

I think once I'm there and I've got the keys and my boys turn up...

0:32:290:32:32

..I will start believing it's actually happening.

0:32:340:32:36

I never had any high hopes

0:32:380:32:40

that I would be able to find anywhere to live down here.

0:32:400:32:43

I certainly didn't expect it to be so easy.

0:32:430:32:47

I'm just overjoyed that I'm going to be three miles away from my granddaughters.

0:32:470:32:52

And my little dog Saffy is absolutely fine

0:32:520:32:54

and I think she's going to love it when we get there.

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I'd say, on a scale of one to ten of being happy at the moment,

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I'm 11.

0:33:010:33:02

I'm beyond happy at this moment.

0:33:020:33:05

Come on, then.

0:33:080:33:10

Good girl.

0:33:100:33:11

This is our new home, Saffy.

0:33:110:33:13

-Hi, Rachel.

-Hello.

0:33:130:33:15

-Hello.

-Nice to see you again.

0:33:150:33:17

-Are you ready?

-I am indeed, yes.

0:33:170:33:19

OK. Let's go.

0:33:190:33:21

I've got butterflies.

0:33:210:33:23

And I'm feeling a little bit nervous at this moment, but...

0:33:230:33:26

-That's all right.

-..but happy and good.

0:33:260:33:28

Pete's only seen his new home once.

0:33:280:33:30

This is the first time since it's been redecorated.

0:33:300:33:34

It looks just as nice as when I came before.

0:33:340:33:37

-Come on in.

-Saffy, you're going the wrong way.

0:33:370:33:40

It's got a new floor everywhere now.

0:33:400:33:41

Oh, my goodness! I wasn't expecting that.

0:33:410:33:43

-So we've gone over all the tiles.

-Oh, yeah. Yep.

0:33:430:33:46

Right, bedroom in here.

0:33:460:33:48

-Yeah. Oh, it's so light.

-Yeah.

0:33:510:33:53

It's so light.

0:33:530:33:55

It's the big windows, makes such a difference.

0:33:550:33:57

Ah! I love it when the light... It's brilliant.

0:33:570:34:00

It's absolutely wonderful.

0:34:010:34:03

It really is.

0:34:030:34:05

It's so light. It's spacious. It's brilliant.

0:34:050:34:08

I love it. I love it.

0:34:080:34:10

-Yeah, it's all just ready to go, isn't it?

-Yep. That's brilliant.

0:34:100:34:14

-So we just need to do the official bit and bobs now.

-OK.

0:34:140:34:17

Get all my paperwork done and then I can hand the keys to you.

0:34:170:34:19

-Yep, wonderful.

-And it's all yours.

0:34:190:34:21

-Shall we go in the kitchen and do that?

-Yep, fine.

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It's not only Pete who's got to get used to some new rules and regulations.

0:34:250:34:28

So with pets, with Saffy,

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-we have a pet policy that we ask you to fill in.

-OK.

0:34:310:34:34

It's just going to ask you for any information you have about her,

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in terms of is she insured, is she chipped, has she been spayed?

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And we keep a file of tenants' pets,

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so that we have all that information to hand, if we ever need it.

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Other than that, we just ask that she doesn't damage the property as far as possible.

0:34:500:34:54

She's not going to do that.

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And she's kept under control at all times.

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As long as you're confident that she's not going to fight with anyone or...

0:34:580:35:02

-Her, have a fight? Oh, my goodness!

-..be a nuisance to anybody or run off.

0:35:020:35:05

-All I need to do first is to check out the local cats and where they are.

-OK.

0:35:050:35:08

Apart from that, she is absolutely fine.

0:35:080:35:11

It might be an idea, perhaps, to keep her on a lead,

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until you've sussed out the cat situation.

0:35:130:35:15

I'll just ask you to sign it now and then it's a done deal.

0:35:150:35:19

If you...

0:35:200:35:21

-Just under your name there.

-OK.

0:35:210:35:24

That's it! It's all official, Mr Weston.

0:35:260:35:28

-So here are your keys.

-Thanks very much, Rachel.

0:35:280:35:30

-And congratulations.

-Thank you.

0:35:300:35:32

I hope you settle in well and, as I say, please ring us if you need anything at all.

0:35:320:35:36

-I will do. That's brilliant.

-OK. I'll leave you to it.

0:35:360:35:38

-Thanks for your help.

-Pleasure.

-That's lovely, thank you.

0:35:380:35:40

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

0:35:400:35:42

Formalities over, Pete can get stuck into the job of moving in.

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And with all three of his sons on hand to do the hard work,

0:35:450:35:48

it seems he and Saffy are planning, well, a more supervisory role.

0:35:480:35:53

I'm looking forward to it immensely.

0:35:530:35:55

I'm looking forward to getting my armchair in.

0:35:550:35:57

I'm looking forward to getting my bed made.

0:35:570:35:59

I'm looking forward to getting my garden chair

0:35:590:36:01

and just sit out here for an hour or two, I think.

0:36:010:36:03

Let my boys do all the work.

0:36:030:36:05

With their dad just minutes down the road now, rather than hours away in Suffolk,

0:36:060:36:10

the whole family think Pete's exactly where he belongs.

0:36:100:36:13

He's going to be back in the bosom of the family. He'll be well-supported here.

0:36:140:36:18

Yeah, a good move. Definitely.

0:36:180:36:19

He's only three miles away from Nicki and Dale's two eldest.

0:36:190:36:25

So, yes. It's perfect for him.

0:36:250:36:27

Perfect for them, as well, I hope.

0:36:280:36:30

I think Grandpa moving by is going to be amazing.

0:36:300:36:34

We'll come to see him every weekend.

0:36:340:36:35

Saff, come here.

0:36:370:36:38

Only a few weeks ago, giving up his home and moving 200 miles

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seemed like an impossible challenge for Pete.

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But thanks to Rachel and Stroud District Council's housing team,

0:36:440:36:47

he can now look forward to a much brighter future.

0:36:470:36:50

That all went very well.

0:36:510:36:53

I've got a happy man and a happy dog in there.

0:36:530:36:55

He's...very emotional.

0:36:550:36:57

He's been on a long journey.

0:36:570:36:59

So I think he's come to a really nice conclusion now

0:36:590:37:02

and he's settled near his family.

0:37:020:37:05

And he said earlier today it was the first time in about seven years

0:37:050:37:08

he's seen all his three sons together in the same place.

0:37:080:37:11

And now they're all together in the same area

0:37:110:37:15

and it'll be really nice for him.

0:37:150:37:17

Yeah, and he seems really pleased. So I'm chuffed.

0:37:170:37:20

Now he's installed,

0:37:200:37:22

Pete's already looking forward to making a new home for himself,

0:37:220:37:25

surrounded by the people he loves most.

0:37:250:37:27

Every day is going to be a happy day here, I think.

0:37:270:37:30

Every day will be, definitely.

0:37:300:37:32

Just to know that I can just pop down the road and see my grandchildren and my children,

0:37:320:37:36

it's going to marvellous, absolutely marvellous.

0:37:360:37:39

I'm relieved. I'm happy. Speechless.

0:37:390:37:41

I... I'm just overcome by it all.

0:37:410:37:43

It is absolutely wonderful.

0:37:440:37:46

Back in Oxford,

0:37:540:37:56

the number of people in this house jumped from five to six

0:37:560:37:59

when an extra bedroom was added.

0:37:590:38:01

The change means the landlord can maximise returns on his investment

0:38:010:38:05

in Oxford's booming property market.

0:38:050:38:07

But he also needs to upgrade facilities.

0:38:090:38:11

Housing officer Katherine Coney

0:38:110:38:12

is explaining the rules to the landlord's agent.

0:38:120:38:15

The kitchen is fairly small and compact.

0:38:160:38:19

And so, if you had more people, they would struggle to do the cooking.

0:38:190:38:23

The landlord's agent, Jacqui Edwards,

0:38:230:38:26

claims the expense of installing extra facilities is unnecessary,

0:38:260:38:30

as the people who live here have been getting along just fine.

0:38:300:38:33

We have had six people using this for, I don't know,

0:38:330:38:37

six, seven months now

0:38:370:38:39

and they've happily been cooking together without any major issues.

0:38:390:38:43

But no matter how well the tenants get along,

0:38:430:38:46

the rules are there for safety and wellbeing.

0:38:460:38:48

And Katherine is there to enforce them.

0:38:480:38:50

It's about having that extra space in here

0:38:500:38:53

to enable them to all cook safely.

0:38:530:38:56

Jacqui concedes the kitchen is too small,

0:38:570:38:59

but is still hoping a separate utility room will make up for the lack of space.

0:38:590:39:04

So most kitchens have kind of the washing machine and all that stuff in there,

0:39:040:39:07

but we've got that out there,

0:39:070:39:09

so that gives them just more general usable space in the kitchen.

0:39:090:39:14

So that just doesn't even... We can't count any of that space?

0:39:140:39:16

No, you can't count any of that space.

0:39:160:39:18

-That's just the utility space.

-Yeah.

0:39:180:39:21

I mean, you could turn this into one big kitchen-diner.

0:39:210:39:26

-Yeah.

-The only thing is, if you did that,

0:39:260:39:28

we would then start asking for further fire precautions

0:39:280:39:31

-throughout the whole of the house...

-Yeah.

0:39:310:39:34

..with fire doors on all of the rooms.

0:39:340:39:36

Because they've got escape windows, so they can get out of the window, if there was a fire.

0:39:360:39:41

Are there any other facilities we could put out here

0:39:410:39:44

that would make it work better?

0:39:440:39:47

So even though we don't...

0:39:470:39:48

They are still two kind of separate rooms.

0:39:480:39:51

Is there any way we could make it work

0:39:510:39:53

without opening up a whole bunch of fire issues?

0:39:530:39:56

As the agent, Jacqui's trying hard to save the landlord money.

0:39:560:40:00

And Katherine is doing her best to find a solution.

0:40:000:40:03

I suppose the only other way round it would be maybe to turn that room over there,

0:40:040:40:09

which has already got a little bit of a worktop,

0:40:090:40:12

-into its own little kitchenette.

-Yeah.

0:40:120:40:14

And then that person would have its own little kitchen facilities

0:40:140:40:18

and the rest of the five would have this.

0:40:180:40:20

So what would there need to be to have a kitchen facility?

0:40:200:40:23

-They would need a sort of dishwasher or a sink.

-Yeah.

0:40:230:40:26

-And the sink in the bathroom...

-Wouldn't count.

-OK.

0:40:260:40:30

Or possibly just widen the work surface a bit more

0:40:300:40:33

and then, I don't know if you know the sort of Baby Belling-type combination ovens

0:40:330:40:37

-that look a bit like a microwave and have the hobs on top.

-Yeah.

0:40:370:40:40

-So just something like that.

-OK.

0:40:400:40:42

And then we would also ask for a heat detector in that room.

0:40:420:40:46

So it would be a bit more than what you needed to do,

0:40:460:40:51

-but that would be the only...

-OK.

0:40:510:40:54

That would be the other way around it, I would say,

0:40:540:40:56

to make one of those rooms into a smaller bed-sitting type unit.

0:40:560:41:00

OK.

0:41:000:41:01

There's nothing we could do out here facility-wise that you can just...

0:41:010:41:05

-No?

-No.

0:41:050:41:06

Yeah. It just seems such a shame, because they do have so much space.

0:41:060:41:10

They do have quite a large space here, yeah.

0:41:100:41:12

And all the bedrooms are big.

0:41:120:41:14

And all the bedrooms are probably large enough.

0:41:140:41:19

There's no avoiding the issue.

0:41:190:41:20

If he wants to keep six tenants, the landlord will have to pay for some alterations.

0:41:200:41:24

But the council is keen to make things as easy as possible.

0:41:240:41:28

What we will do is, if it does have to go to the five,

0:41:280:41:32

we will say, when this current tenancy comes to an end, it's got the double,

0:41:320:41:36

you reduce it to five,

0:41:360:41:38

so you don't have to do anything until that time.

0:41:380:41:41

OK, so, yeah, we're finished here.

0:41:410:41:43

Perfect. So we should hear back from you in a couple of weeks?

0:41:430:41:46

-Hopefully, you should get a notice next week or the week after.

-OK. All right. Perfect.

0:41:460:41:50

-Thank you for coming.

-Thank you, bye.

0:41:500:41:52

Well, as the landlord's just spent money adding the extra bedroom,

0:41:570:42:00

he may not be best pleased with the news.

0:42:000:42:03

We'll have a think about it and have a chat with the owner,

0:42:030:42:06

have a chat with the tenants, as well, to see what they want to do.

0:42:060:42:09

And they'll have to make a decision.

0:42:090:42:11

Katherine has been as flexible as she can,

0:42:110:42:13

but it won't be long before she's back to make sure the landlord is complying with the rules.

0:42:130:42:18

I can understand her frustrations around the fact that there is a very large living room.

0:42:190:42:23

But, unfortunately, we do have a rule that the kitchen has to be a minimum size.

0:42:230:42:29

I've proposed a few solutions that they can think about,

0:42:290:42:31

if they do want to have the six people.

0:42:310:42:33

So, hopefully, we'll be able to resolve that

0:42:350:42:37

and they'll do the work.

0:42:370:42:39

Back at the office,

0:42:420:42:44

the housing team decides to put a time limit in force.

0:42:440:42:46

They issue the landlord with a new licence,

0:42:460:42:49

giving him nine months to comply with the regulations

0:42:490:42:51

and provide extra kitchen facilities for his tenants.

0:42:510:42:55

That's it for today. Join me next time,

0:42:590:43:01

when I'll be learning more about what it takes

0:43:010:43:03

to be a front-line housing officer.

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