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-Meet the sheriffs. -Let's go and introduce ourselves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
-We're High Court enforcement officers. -We're here to execute a High Court writ. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
They're the men whose job it is to get you your money back. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
I'm not waiting any more. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
If you've been to court but still not been paid what you're owed... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
-Why don't you just tell me who you are? -This is an absolute crock. You need to pay this. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
The High Court Enforcement Officers are charged by law to | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
recover what a court says is rightfully yours. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
I've seized your car, sir. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
You can either let us through the door, or we'll go through the window. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
It's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
I've collected 42 grand. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Coming up - Myrna Torres paid £2,450 | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
for a healthcare qualification from a London college, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
but got nothing for her money AND was kicked out of the country. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
She was really in tears every day, asking, begging them for help, and they wouldn't help her. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
Can the sheriffs get her life back on track? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
You need to pay, otherwise we're going to be removing goods. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
This Yorkshire jeweller mis-sold an engagement ring. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Sheriff Pete goes to show them that diamonds aren't forever. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
Your attitude towards me isn't acceptable. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I'm going to take the items with me. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
And the careless removals company... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
It just got increasingly difficult to get any communication | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
going with them at all. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
The sheriffs go in search of redress. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
We need some kind of proof of ownership or we'll be taking it. It's as simple as that. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
As another day dawns in West Yorkshire, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
in his van and on his way to work is Sheriff Pete Spencer. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Today, he's off to see | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
if he can bring a happy ending to a love story - gone wrong. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
This morning we're going to a jeweller's in Brighouse, West Yorkshire. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Total amount we're looking for is £6,813.87. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:12 | |
The client Pete's on his way to help | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
bought an engagement ring for £4,100 from Fine Design Products Ltd, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
trading as Kingston Diamond Merchants. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
But the ring they came away with was a different weight, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
colour and clarity to the one they were originally sold. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
They went to court and the judge agreed the jeweller | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
misrepresented the ring he sold them, and awarded in their favour. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
It's now Pete's job to make love's young dream come true | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
and get the unhappy couple their money back. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
And if Kingston Diamond Merchants won't pay up, Pete's happy to | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
show them why diamonds are a sheriff's best friend. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
Hopefully he'll have goods in the shop, which we will seize on entry | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
and remove if need be, to secure the outstanding debt - | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
or collect the payment in full | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
which hopefully we will be able to do today. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Sheriffs like early starts, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
but arriving at 9am, Pete might be a bit TOO early. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
The shop's yet to open. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Pete manages to grab a quick word with the shop staff. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
What time do you open? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
Half past? | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I'll wait half an hour, it's OK. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
What she said through the window is the owner's not here till Friday | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
and they're not willing to deal with it, seemingly, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
but I'm sure they'll be on the phone now to the owner | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
to let them know somebody's outside. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
He needs to be getting himself down here, really, because we are looking | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
for full payment today, or to remove items from within the jeweller's. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
Pete takes it on trust that the jewellers will | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
open their doors to him. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
But if they don't, it won't keep him out. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
We can force entry if need be with it being commercial premises, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
but it is a last resort to force entry. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Hopefully they'll see sense and open the door. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
And the moment the doors do open, Pete's first through them. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Good morning. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
While Pete explains his visit to the staff, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
we're asked to stay outside the premises. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
I'm an enforcement officer. I've got a High Court writ. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It's £6,813.87 today as we speak, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
so I've come to collect the total amount due today, or seize goods. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
Moments later, the shop staff get owner Mr Kingston on the phone. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
He wants to know why he's had no warning | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
he was about to be visited by a sheriff. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
It's a High Court writ. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
I definitely don't have to serve any warrant on you prior to my arrival. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
I'll just explain, I've got a live High Court writ, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
which means I can attend here today without prior notice | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
to collect the outstanding amount or seize goods. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Pete warns Mr Kingston that if he doesn't pay up, he can remove goods. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Mr Kingston continues to argue with him, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
and the more he does so, the more Pete's bill rises. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
I think you're just delaying tactics, to be fair. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Yes, but I'm here now - that's the only problem. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Well, at the moment, I'm into the next hour so I've got to charge you. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Mr Kingston says he's waiting for the infamous ring | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
to be returned before he'll consider paying up. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
But as the judgment states that the newlyweds don't need to | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
return the ring until they get their money back, this won't stop | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Pete enforcing the writ and doing his bit to stop trouble in paradise. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
The case of him returning the ring | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
isn't anything to do with me collecting this money. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
It's not relevant whatsoever. That's something... | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
That's up to you. At the end of the day, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
best thing is pay it, you've got 14 days | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
to put a claim in against it and then you sort it from there. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
If the shop owner won't pay, Pete will have no choice | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
but to remove some products from the store. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
He lets Mr Kingston know this, but the shop owner doesn't seem | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
bothered by his threat, and it's not long before Pete's had enough. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
Because of your attitude, I'm not going to leave items on site now. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
I was going to ring our office and see if they'd allow me | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
to seize items on paperwork and leave them on site but I'm not going | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
to do that now, due to your attitude. I'm going to take the items with me. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Your attitude towards me isn't acceptable. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
With no payment forthcoming or likely today, Pete decides to | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
take decisive action and asks staff to round up some rocks. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
I'm going to take approximately £28,000 worth of goods today. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
I've got to take quadruple the amount on the levy. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Under the orders of an officer of the High Court, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
they have little choice but to say "I do". | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
With the stones now in his hands, Pete's in a hurry to get away. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
He might have all the collateral he needs, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
but he's also now got himself a security situation | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
in case any potential robbers have been keeping an eye on him. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
So we've moved away from the premises now. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
I'm just making sure nobody's following us or anything like that. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Obviously, once we're in the vehicle, it's a safe vehicle - | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
it locks us in the vehicle. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
I'm just going to pull into a safe place, and then we can discuss | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
what's happened in there and the way we're moving forward with that case. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
In a secret location, Pete talks us through what the shop have | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
told him the diamonds are worth, and what happens next. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Those particular diamonds there have got a retail value, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
from what they're telling me, of £10,000, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
and the trade value on those is £3,000. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
That's a picture of the four diamonds which are one-carat | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
stones each, and they're retailing at £15,000, trade value of £5,000. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
In this bag, you see, the diamonds - | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
I've asked them, each individual one I've photographed has | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
actually gone in there. I've asked the shop and I've witnessed them | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
to seal that bag there and actually sign over the seal. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I've no reason to go into that bag until it's returned to them | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
or until it goes into auction to sell. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
£28,000 of precious stones might mean different things to | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
different people. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
To Pete, however, they're just part of the job. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Doesn't make any difference to me. It's just a bag, isn't it? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
What happens to the diamonds is now up to Mr Kingston. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
He's got 14 days to pay the sheriffs the £6,000 he owes. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
If he does, they'll give the stones back. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
If he doesn't, they'll auction the diamonds | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
and give the proceeds to their client, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
who might finally be able to buy the engagement ring they dreamt of. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
Someone else looking to the sheriffs for help is solicitor | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Sherali Lakhani. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Today, he's using the internet to talk to one of his clients, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Myrna Torres. | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
Hello, Myrna. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
She should be in the UK, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
but she's currently 7,000 miles away in the Philippines, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
and all because a British college took thousands of pounds | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
of her savings, only to breach the contract they agreed with her. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Myrna came to the UK four years ago to study | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
so she could become a professional health carer. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Her first two-year course went well. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
She made friends here who were all | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
warm to her and she loved the atmosphere. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
She was very happy here. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
But when she enrolled in a further course at William Shakespeare College in South London, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
things didn't go to plan. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
The college was contractually obliged to supply Myrna with | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
the form she needed to get a study visa, known as a CAS form. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
They gave her one, but when she sent it to the Home Office, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
it was rejected. | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
It turned out William Shakespeare College | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
wasn't a government-registered sponsor. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
The college had been taken over by another school, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
A&S Training College, who WERE a registered sponsor. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
Surely they could give her the CAS form she needed? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
The college refused to give her a new letter and she kept going back | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
and they kept telling her, "We'll do it next week, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
"the week after, or do it tomorrow." They refused to give her the money | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
back and they really wouldn't do anything about it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
She was really in tears every day, asking, begging them for help, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
and they wouldn't help her. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
It was a desperate situation for Myrna. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
She'd paid 75% of her first year's fees - £2,450. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
She hoped the qualification would mean | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
she could eventually earn the money back. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
But whatever she tried, A&S still wouldn't supply a CAS form. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
She was at risk of having to leave the UK. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
She lost all her confidence. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
All she could do is cry every time you talked to her. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
She was thinking that she's not only lost the money | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
but having also lost any future she may have had in this country. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:08 | |
Sherali did everything he could to try | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and get A&S to provide Myrna with the accreditation she needed. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
They just ignored all our letters. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
I sent them by e-mails, faxes, post, recorded delivery. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
All means - they just did not even acknowledge any of the letters. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Over three months we wrote to them | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
and we didn't get any response from them. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
No CAS form meant no visa for Myrna. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
She was forced to leave the UK without the qualifications | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
she had set her heart on. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
She was telling me that her family was probably in debt | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
because they had to borrow in order to give her | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
the monies for her to study and she felt that she's let | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
everyone down and she was feeling that she was the one at fault - | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
she's done something wrong. In fact she hadn't done anything wrong, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
it was just that she fell victim to circumstances here. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Desperate to get Myrna some redress for the money she'd | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
spent for nothing, Sherali took A&S Training College to court. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
It was a clear-cut case. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
All we were asking for was a confirmation on a piece | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
of paper, required under the law, and they were not just providing it. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
A&S Training College didn't contest the case, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
and the judge awarded in Myrna's favour. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Despite this, the college has still yet to pay back a penny. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
If Myrna can get her money back, she still has a chance | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
of returning to the UK to complete her studies at a different college. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Determined they are going to get Myrna what she's owed, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
sheriffs Marc Newton and Tony Smith | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
arrive at A&S Training College in North London. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
It may be a school day, but that's not enough to put off the sheriffs. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
They head straight to reception, High Court writ in hand. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
You all right? How you doing? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
It's about a High Court writ that's been issued against you, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
from Miriam Moncala Torres. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
It's against who? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
A&S Training College. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
Right, OK. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
It originally went to the county court in May of this year. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
OK, let me just call head office. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No problem. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
The man's hoping head office knows more about the case than he does. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
And when he speaks to them, they tell him | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
they think they've got a reason why they don't have to pay. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
They've had a name change. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
A&S Training College is the old trading name of the college. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
So we're now Park Royal College. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
All your stuff out in the foyer's still got A&S Training on it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Well, that's an old trading name. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
We've now switched to Park Royal College Ltd. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Right, you're going to need to | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
provide us with some proof of all this. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Umm, yeah... They need proof of the change to Park Royal College. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
I'm just going down to look at stuff on the front wall. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
The head office continues to insist they're a new company, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
but Tony's not won over that easily. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
Well, A&S Training College doesn't exist any more as a trading company. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
Well, what's all the stuff you've got in the hall | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
as you come into reception? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
Everything on that wall is A&S Training College. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Well, we switched to Park Royal College. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
You need to show proof of that like liability insurance or | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
a Companies House certificate. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
I mean I can go into anywhere and they can tell me the name's changed. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Unless you show me proof, it means nothing. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
If Park Royal College Ltd is a different company, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
they will no longer be responsible for A&S's debt, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
and Marc and Tony will have to leave empty-handed. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
While Marc calls the office to ask them to make further checks | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
on A&S, Tony tries to convince them that they do owe the money. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
But you are A&S Training College? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
You're Park Royal College? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
But all the stuff in reception is for A&S Training College. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Well, I'm looking at your timetables on the walls here | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and they're saying the 2012 to 2013, A&S Training College. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
It's all over the walls in this office as well. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Well, you need to prove to me that it's changed. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
You need to get a Companies House certificate or a liability insurance. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
I'm not being funny but a liability insurance certificate | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
should be on the wall, especially with what you do for a living. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
Having called his own office, Marc's got good news. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
It's just a change of name so it doesn't matter. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
It's on the wall, isn't it? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
It's a Companies House certificate to say it's not a new company, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
it's changed its name to this company, so they're still liable. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Park Royal College is still the same registered company | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
as A&S Training College. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
They may have changed their name, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
but they're still liable for the debts. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Marc rams home the point. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
It's just been a change of name. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
It's just a change of name. It's just a change of name. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
No, it's just a change of names. It's a change of names. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Well, you need to pay, otherwise we're going to be removing goods. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Tony gets listing company assets that the Sheriffs will seize | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
and sell if the college won't pay up - | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
something the employees don't like one bit. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
I really don't think you have to... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Well, we do, cos unfortunately we have to do that | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
whether it's paid or not. We still do it. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
It's a process, is it? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
It's a process. They have to price it up. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I'm not pricing it up, I'm listing it. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
We're listing it, we're not pricing it up. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
While the employees try to sort out what to do, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
the Sheriffs look at assets elsewhere in the building. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
The computers aren't high-value items, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
but there are more than enough of them to seize to pay off the debt. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
Marc and Tony have been at the college for 40 minutes | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
and they're no nearer to being paid, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
as the college officials are still disputing payment. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Marc's rapidly losing patience. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
We'll give them 30 minutes or so, and then if we don't get anywhere | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
after that, we'll start geeing them up | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
to start removing goods basically. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
Moments later, the employee comes back. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
He insists the college knows nothing about the case, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and that they want to get the judgment annulled. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
We had no knowledge of this. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Genuinely, we have no knowledge of this case. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
But obviously we're going to be defending that. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
But Marc knows only too well, at this late stage | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
an appeal isn't going to stop them enforcing the writ. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
The thing is, at this stage, it's a live writ. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
So it would need to be paid today or we will remove goods. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
Whether he said he'll defend it, it's entirely up to him. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
He can do that, but today it will need to be dealt with. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
Faced with having Marc publicly removing office furniture, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
the college finally gives up and agrees to pay. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Do you guys want us to transfer to your account? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Yeah. You do. It's on the bottom of that paperwork. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-Can we do that? -As long as you're on the faster system, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
cos we have to sit here until it's gone through. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
You need to do this now... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
Now. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Cos it'll start going up. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
If payment goes through, it'll be a big score for Marc. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
He checks with the office to see if the bank transfer has been made. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
I just need to check the bank to see if some money's gone in, please? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Thank you. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
OK, lovely. Thank you. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
It's a bull's-eye for Marc and Tony, whose persistence has paid | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
dividends for themselves, and more importantly, for Myrna. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
The college meanwhile are keen to give their side of the story. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
We didn't know there was a judgment against, you know. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
If we knew about it, we would have contested it. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
We've got to look at what the judgment says. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
She wasn't provided with a letter. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
But if her visa was refused by UKBA we can't keep her in the college, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
which is against the law of the land. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
We'll look into the detail and see what happens. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Marc is understandably delighted at getting the result | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
he wanted for Myrna. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
We got there eventually. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
It took a while, but we got paid in full which was a good result. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
We've got the money which is a lot better than us having to remove | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
all the computers, cos they weren't easy to get to, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
and it would've taken a while, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
it would send the bill through the roof, to be honest. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
It would've doubled the price of the bill by the time | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
we'd started taking that out of there. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Most importantly, the result means | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Myrna finally getting the £2,736 she's owed. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I'd like to share the good news | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
that we have recovered your money from the college. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
GIGGLES | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
A&S Training College reiterated to us they knew nothing of Myrna's | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
legal claim or the court judgment until visited by the sheriffs. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Had they known about it, they say they would have contested | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
the case, as they insist there was no breach of contract. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Marc and Tony work for this High Court enforcement company | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
in South London. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
They enforce over 1,000 High Court writs every month and recover | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
over £24 million of money rightfully owed to their clients every year. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
Hiya. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
Good morning, sir. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
My name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Only Sheriffs can execute High Court writs and it gives them more powers | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
than County Court bailiffs to enter properties and seize assets. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
We have a High Court writ. We're here today to remove that vehicle. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
If no payment is forthcoming, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Sheriffs can seize goods to auction to pay off debts, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
although removing goods is rare, happening in less than 1% of cases. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
This is New York... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
..near Boston...in Lincolnshire. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
It may not have Manhattan's skyline, but for Keith and Chris Peberdy | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
it was the dream life in the country they wanted after deciding | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
to move from their home of 20 years in Dorset. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
I fell in love with it as soon as I saw it. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
We put in an offer the following day and luckily for us it was accepted. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Unfortunately, this move was also the start of their troubles. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Once the Peberdys decided to move house, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
they knew it was going to be no small task. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
We'd been in our old house for 20 years, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
so we had a lot of furniture, stuff in the garage. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
Looking round for a removals company, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
they wanted a firm that would take the stress out of the ordeal. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
And after searching online, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
they found local Dorset firm Christchurch Removals. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
Chris spoke to the company boss, John Green. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
He was very convincing that he would do a very good job | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
and take care of our possessions, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
so we went with him. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
It's the biggest mistake we made. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
At first, the 170-mile move went well. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
The Peberdys were quite happy with the way the company | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
packed their stuff and moved it out of their Dorset home. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
But when they got to their new New York house, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
the removers started to look anything but professional. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
There was a reproduction Victorian bedroom chair, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
which was badly scratched. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
The top was snapped off of a garden parasol. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Mr Green told me that I could glue it together. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
There was some shelving that was broken. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
A concrete planter, that was smashed. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Our dining room table was scratched very badly. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Upset about the damage, the Peberdys paid £900 | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
to have their table restored, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
which, with the other estimated repair costs, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
left them wanting just over £1,000 from Christchurch Removals. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
Keith then got in touch with company boss John Green. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
First of all, we put our complaint in writing | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
to Christchurch Removals along with an estimate for the damage to | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
the table, which was the major item. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
And I don't think there was any response at all from them. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
And it just got increasingly difficult to get any communication | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
going with them at all. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
After a month of trying to get in contact, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Mr Green agreed to come to New York and inspect the damage. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
But Mr Green didn't want to resolve the problem, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
and no refund of any sort was forthcoming. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
Nine months on from their move, insulted at how they'd been treated | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
and still without any sign of compensation, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
the Peberdys felt they had no choice | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
but to take Christchurch Removals to court. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
The company told the court their insurers were dealing with | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
the issue, but unimpressed by this defence, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
the judge awarded £1,085 in the Peberdys' favour. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
Since then, there's been no sign of any payment, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
so Chris and Keith have had to call on the help of the sheriffs. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
And on their way to Christchurch in Dorset to try and get | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
their money back are sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
We'll see if there's any vehicles on the driveway when we get there. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Potentially block the driveway or clamp any vehicles. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
And then we'll give it a knock. and just take it from there, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
see if we can get somebody to answer the door. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
It's just gone six in the morning when they arrive at the company | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
address, which also happens to be owner Mr Green's home. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
It's that one with the Transit on the drive. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
No sooner have they arrived than Lawrence spots a potentially | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
seizable van on the driveway of the house they've come to visit. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Kev parks across the driveway to make sure it's going nowhere fast. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
Looks like they've got a dog. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Brilliant (!) I'm not getting bitten again. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Gate's locked. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Sheriffs are legally allowed to climb gates or perimeter walls | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and fences to gain entry - even at residential addresses. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
Luckily, today, Lawrence manages to find the handle. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
You got the front door there? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
Give it the bailiff knock. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
There we go. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
Lawrence's knock has the desired effect, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
as a bleary-eyed member of the Green family comes to the door. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
I'm here today to execute a High Court writ | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
against Christchurch Removals. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
The man says there's no-one else in but him. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Nobody lives here, just you? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
So who's Christchurch Removals? Is that your mum and dad, is it? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
Right. And the van out the front, is that Christchurch Removals' van? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
You've no idea? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
You don't work for them. It's not your van? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
The son says his parents run the business and that they're away. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Are you able to get one of them on the phone? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
You must be able to contact them. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
If something happens you need to be able to contact them, don't you? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Well, something's happened. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Well, I've woke you up, you can wake them up. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Because at the moment we're here to seize goods to clear this | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
particular debt that we've got, which as it's looking at the moment | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
is going to be the van out the front. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
You've just said it's not yours. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
It relates potentially to a removals business, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
so we're going to be looking to seize that vehicle, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
so you need to get your parents on the phone. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I've woken you up. It's only fair you wake them up. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
The man says he knows his rights | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
and that Lawrence has to get off the property. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
No, I don't. So you clearly don't know your rights. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Getting the door slammed in their faces | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
brings the discussion to an end. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
If he's to get any money back for the Peberdys, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
Lawrence will need to get in touch with the owners, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
and to do that, he needs their son to help him make contact. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
Lawrence turns his attention to the van on the drive. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
It could become a useful bargaining chip to lure the son back out. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
It's definitely used for work. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
Yeah? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
What is there, stuff in the front? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
TomTom, street atlas, there's webbing strap. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Time to clamp the van. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Stick a clamp on it, sit in the van. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Yeah? OK. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
Usually, seeing the clamp go on is enough to get debtors to pay up. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
But today, there's a problem. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Lawrence, where's it supposed to be? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Oh, you're joking me? Oh, you're having a laugh. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
It should be there, shouldn't it? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
That's not right. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
With no clamp and no debtor to talk to, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
Lawrence and Kev are limited in what they can do. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
They decide to wait it out until either the office opens | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
so they can check on the ownership of the van, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
and potentially get it towed, or the debtor agrees to talk to them. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
But this is potentially worst-case scenario with a residential address. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
Really, we need to be in dialogue... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
..and then we can establish who is the owner of the vehicle | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
and whether we can actually take it or not. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
It's a 200-mile round trip for the Sheriffs, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and the chances of getting any money seem to be fading. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Until suddenly... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
There he is. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
..the son re-emerges. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Worried that the van's going to be seized, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
he wants to show Lawrence paperwork which he thinks proves | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
the van's owned personally by his father, not Christchurch Removals. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
As this quite clearly states, this document is not proof of ownership. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
We need some kind of proof of ownership or we'll be taking it. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
It's as simple as that. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
If we have to take a vehicle, you'll be liable for more money, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
so the best way to deal with it is get it paid. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
You need to get him on the phone. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
That's what phones are for, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
for contacting people when they're not around. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Getting somewhere, slowly. Maybe. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Well, he's dealing with it now. That's the thing. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
He's actively dealing with it, which is what you need. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Finally, after another wait, the son emerges prepared to pay up. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
Did you get in touch with them? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
I phoned them up and they said just pay it, so... | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
As it's not a huge amount of money as well, you know. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
It's best to get these things sorted. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
Locked out of a residential property and with no clamp, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
at one point all wasn't looking good for Lawrence and Kev, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
so they're understandably delighted to have got a paid-in-full. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Bosh! | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
You've just met the A-Team! | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Absolutely blinding start to the day. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
A residential for what was potentially a non-entity - | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
that's as good as it gets on that one. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
It's another triumph for the sheriffs. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
A paid-in-full for them | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
and, for the Peberdys, finally a letter in the post. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
-Oh, we've got the cheque! -Brilliant. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
It says we have made a payment to you of £1,222.59 | 0:30:57 | 0:31:03 | |
in full payment of the above matter. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
-Oh, that's good. -Yeah. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
We weren't sure at any stage whether we were going to get paid or not. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
We're just happy that it's all over and we can get on with our lives now. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Boss John Green told us the Peberdys refused an offer | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
from the company's insurers. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
He said he had now retired | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
and that Christchurch Removals was no longer trading. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Today, Lawrence and Kev are staying close to their South London roots. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
They've got an appointment with a Sidcup mortgage advisor | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
who owes money to a former client. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
We're at a residential address but apparently it is a commercial | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
property with various companies working from it. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
We're looking for an S Williams, we're looking for £2,241.32. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
The lady they're on their way to help is Janet Folds. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
When she tried to take out a mortgage to buy a new home | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
for her elderly father George, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
she thought it would make both of their lives easier. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
Instead, it's seen her out of pocket, forced to go to court | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
and left relying on the sheriffs for help. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Janet's father George is 87 and not in the best of health. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
He's worked all his life, but he's always been disabled. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
From the Second World War, he's got three bullet wounds, I believe. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
He's always been in pain. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
He can't manoeuvre his leg or his shoulder, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
and arthritis has set in, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
and he's also got a heart condition, he's got anaemia, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:46 | |
and he's in quite a bad way, really. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
And the stairs in his house are too difficult to get up and down. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
To make live easier for George, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Janet decided to move him out of his old house and find a new flat, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
which had the facilities he would need in his old age. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
She found just the place in Lewisham, South London. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
She took George to see it. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
He was over the moon with it, and it would've been ideal for him. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
The new flat was going to cost more than selling George's existing | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
one would raise. They'd need a mortgage to cover the difference, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and looking around for someone who could arrange one, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
Janet was recommended Stewart Williams. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
She went to meet with him and was impressed. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
I've got to say, it looked very professional - and so did he. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Erm, everything in the office pointed at the fact that | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
he was what he said he was. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
And a successful one at that. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
He said "This should be no problem at all but I'll need some money | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
"from you straightaway." | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
My father supplied the money, put it into my account, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
and I gave him a cheque there and then. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
He said, "Not to worry, you've got the mortgage." | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
With Mr Williams' fee paid and the mortgage in the pipeline, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
Janet and George thought they could relax. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
But a few weeks after paying the £1,500, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Janet received some bad news. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
The buyer for her father's house pulled out, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
which put her whole flat purchase in jeopardy. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
She got back in touch with Mr Williams. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
And he suggested that my brother could buy my dad's house... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:24 | |
which sounded a bit odd. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
He said, well, if he buys that, you can keep that, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
keep the house, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
your father goes into the flat and the house can be let. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
So he said, right, I want another £2,000. First words out of his mouth. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
Thinking it their best option, Janet agreed to Mr Williams' plan | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
of making two property purchases. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Using George's money, she paid the additional £2,000 fees | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
Mr Williams asked for. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Days then weeks went by, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
and there was no sign of any mortgage. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Janet got back in touch with Mr Williams, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
who gave her some bad news. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
Because there were now two mortgages needed, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
one would have to be buy-to-let, but no mortgage company would allow | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Janet's family to take out the riskier buy-to-let mortgage. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
He said, "I'm afraid we have got a problem, yeah." | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
He said, "You can't have the mortgages." | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Just like that. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
But I thought he would've told me that in the beginning, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
but it was purely money. That's what he could see. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
And me, like a fool, I let him have it. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Janet then had to tell George that she'd had to pull out | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
of the purchase of the flat he'd fallen in love with. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
My dad was so... He even packed. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
And he was virtually living as if he was going to move tomorrow. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
So I couldn't stand it no more. That night I've had to get him home, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
me and my sister told him. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
And he was gutted. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Worse still, Mr Williams was refusing to give back any part | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
of the £3,500 fees Janet and George had given him. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
Despite the fact they'd followed his advice and he had been unable | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
to get them a mortgage, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
he said these fees were non-refundable. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Well, I said to him, "What happens now then?" | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
Thinking that he was going to say, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
"We'll give you some of it back," or just indicate something, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
so he said - nothing. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
And he looked at me as if I was asking something really strange. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
And by now, I was getting up. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
"No," he said. "That's the end of it. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
"You've got no mortgages. There is no mortgage." | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
And I just sort of walked out a bit dumbstruck, really, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
and it wasn't until I got outside | 0:36:29 | 0:36:30 | |
and thought what I really felt about him | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
that I've made my mind up, one way or the other I was going to | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
get the money back, whatever way it took! | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
Determined not to let Mr Williams get away with her father's money, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
Janet investigated legal action. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
She took out a county court action against him. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
To Janet's surprise, Mr Williams admitted liability | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
and agreed to pay her what she was owed. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
He admitted the whole amount and said, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
"but my defence is he's in financial difficulty," | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
and I thought, right. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
They said, "He's asked you for time to pay." | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
So, I wrote back and said, "How long will this be?" | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
So they said, "He'll send you £2,000 within 14 days, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
"and the rest he'll pay in February of this year." | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Mr Williams paid Janet the first £2,000. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
But after that - nothing. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
And now, nine months on, she's still waiting for her money. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
With nowhere left to turn, her last hope now rests with the sheriffs. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
Guided by their trusty sat nav, they arrive at the address | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
named on the writ, park up and prepare for action. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
There's just one problem. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
We're looking for S Williams, no? | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
This isn't the right house. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
Stupid sat nav. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
The couple at the door tell them the address they need | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
is actually around the corner. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Why do I get the blame for the sat nav being wrong? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
No, I said stupid sat nav. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
It seems they mistook the sheriffs for something quite different. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
They guessed we were bailiffs straightaway. What was that about? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
No, they said, "What have we won?" | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-What have we done? -No, "What have we won?"! | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
They thought we were Lottery? | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Two minutes in the van and they find the address they're after nearby. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Time to try again. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
But will this house be the office they're after? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Hello, I'm looking for an S Williams? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
-I'm a bit worried about the... -Yeah. -Cos she's loitering. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Yeah, go and have a word with her. Show her your ID. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Worried about getting a parking ticket, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Kev goes looking for a parking space | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
while Lawrence goes into the office upstairs | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
to introduce himself to the man who buzzed him in. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Hello. It was you that buzzed me in, yeah? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I'm looking for Mr S Williams. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
No, I appreciate that. So you don't know of a Mr Williams here? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Mr Grix, an enforcement officer. If you can get him on the phone | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
and just tell him there's an enforcement officer here for him. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
As the somewhat surprised office administrator goes to call | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Mr Williams with the news he has a visitor, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
Kev returns, having had no luck finding somewhere to park. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
If you want to keep an eye on the van. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
-Are you all right? -Yeah, I'll shout if I need you. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Lawrence will now have to try and get Janet her money back | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
without his partner's help. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
He tries to find out a bit more about where Mr Williams might be. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Is he out at a client's, is he? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Is that far away? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
Perhaps he needs to come here and sort it out then. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
He decides it's time to bypass the man in the office | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
and talk to the broker directly. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Can Lawrence persuade him to come down and pay up? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
Hello, Sir. My name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
I'm here to execute a High Court writ on behalf of our claimant, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
J Folds? | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
We're here today to seize goods to the value of £2,241.32. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
If you wish to prevent further action, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
you need to pay that amount in full. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
OK. Cheers. Bye-bye. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
That was a lot easier than expected. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
He knows who she is. He's not happy about her! | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
But he's going to the bank to get the money out, I believe. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
He said he'd go and get the cash out now. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
But a sheriff as experienced as Lawrence knows until | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
the money's in his hand, nothing's guaranteed. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
What I have to do, I have to seize goods within here, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
that's what I'm sent out for today, is to seize goods. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
We're not here for the money. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
We're here to seize goods he should've paid at the CCJ stage. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
He didn't, for whatever reason. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
What do you want to do then? > | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
I just have to list everything down. It won't take me long. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
To keep the pressure up, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
he gets on with listing all the goods in the office. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Is that a shredder, is it? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
If any of these belong to Stewart Williams, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
and he gets cold feet about paying up, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
they can then be removed and sold to pay his debt. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
No, no, it's all right. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
As Lawrence finishes listing assets, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
Stewart Williams calls to say he's minutes away. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
But he's also heard about our camera and wants us out of the office. Now. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
A few minutes later, Mr Williams arrives and goes in to speak | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
to Lawrence, who's ready with the figure he's there to collect. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
But will Mr Williams agree to pay? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
£2,241.32. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Yeah. £1.32. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
Stewart Williams hands over the full amount owed - in cash. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
Cash. Nil balance. And just sign and print for me. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
There you go. There's your receipt. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
I'll leave you in peace. Cheers. Bye-bye. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
It's the perfect result for Lawrence and great news for Janet, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
and her father, George. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
He paid in full? Bosh! | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Bish, bash. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
Finally, they'll now get back their money - in full. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
It's all in there. The guy knew about the debt. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
He didn't want the aggravation so he went and got the money and paid it. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
We're done and dusted and that's the end of it. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
This is a letter from the sheriffs to say that they successfully got | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
my money back. I feel good now to know that we've got it back for | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
my dad. I'd like to have been there when they went in there. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
It's just satisfying knowing that I've got this back. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
I hope other people do what I've done. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
A few days after Pete removed £28,000 of diamonds from | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
Kingston Diamond Merchants, owner Mr Kingston paid the £6,000 debt. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
The diamonds have now been returned to him and the couple | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
he mis-sold an engagement ring to have been paid in full. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 |