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If you're owed money but aren't getting paid, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
it's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are Enforcement Agents. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm here to issue a High Court writ. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the courts. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
They're Enforcement Agents of the High Court. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
And if a court's ruled in your favour, they're on your side. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
If the debtor doesn't want to pay... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
You currently owe £9,461.80. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
If you don't come to the door, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
we'll have to remove the vehicle off the drive. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Whether it's a small company... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
-Can I speak to the person in charge please? -..or a household name... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
We're here to see someone from G4S. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm not going anywhere, you get him to come in here. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
We're not going to be waiting around like that, it needs to be done now. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
I just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
Coming up, Claire Yew wasn't paid her rent by a lettings agent. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
He owed me about six months rent. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
That was quite hard for me and my family because | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
I still had to pay the mortgage. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
The sheriffs have an ultimatum for the manager. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
I'm going to have to insist on half payment or I remove the goods. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Lawrence and Kev visit a technology company... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
We are High Court Enforcement Agents. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
We've got a High Court writ against SBE Ltd. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
..which sets the alarm bells ringing. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
ALARM BLARES | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Mandy Springer was sold a car with a dangerous flaw. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
This was the one where the wheel came off. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
My grandson and I definitely could have been killed that day. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
But the car dealers who sold it to her | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
aren't keen to pay for the repairs. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
£1,140.62 pays us, gets her paid, and we're gone. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Uh, no. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
And Ken is made to wait at the Post Office's headquarters. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
I'm starting to lose my patience now. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
I'm just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Sheriff Ken Warby is in east London | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
on his way to a lettings agent in Whitechapel. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Our claimant was letting a property through them | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
and the debtor has not released the money to our claimant. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
We're going for approximately £8,500, including sheriff fees. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
The lettings agent is called Hometrader Properties. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
They owe money to full-time mum Claire Yew, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
who found herself in dispute with the company | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
after deciding to buy a house to rent out. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
I was looking for a house for a buy-to-let investment, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
so I wanted somewhere as close to London as possible. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
She managed to find what she thought would be | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
an ideal property in Plaistow - | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
not too far from Central London, but still affordable. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
It is actually a three-bed terraced house | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
with two receptions and a basement, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
so one reception can be used as a bedroom as well. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
And it's close to all the amenities, the hospital and public transport. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Her offer on the property was accepted | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
and the sale went through quickly. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
As there was already a tenant living there, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
the seller made a suggestion. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
The vendor discussed with me and said, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
"Well, they have been good tenants," and he said, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
"Currently, I've got a guaranteed rent contract | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
"with the managing agent and they pay me every month no problem, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
"so why don't we just keep the tenant and save all the hassle?" | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
The tenancy had been managed by Hometrader Properties, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
and its agent confirmed they'd be willing for Claire | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
to keep the existing tenant on the same terms. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
They would get the guaranteed rent of 1,300 every month, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
so it doesn't matter whether the tenants pay or not. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
Since they organised everything for me and made it easy for me | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
and they told me that we don't have to pay anything, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
I thought, "Well, why not?" | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
For the first few months, the rent was paid as promised, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
but then payments began to be delayed, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
with the man at Hometraders saying there were problems | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
with tenants' housing benefit. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
He told me that because the tenant is on housing benefits, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
the tenant's rent is actually paid by the council, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
and apparently, the tenant did some part-time job over December | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
and she didn't put in some paperwork and, I don't know, some red tape. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
So, anyway, they claimed that | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
the council had stopped giving them the rent. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
And despite Claire's contract saying the rent would be guaranteed | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
no matter what, payments continued to lag behind. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
It just dragged on and on and on, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and they kept telling me the same thing - | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
that it's not sorted out yet and, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
"We're actually paying you out of my own money." | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
That's what he told me. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
Although Hometrader Properties did make some payments, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
the arrears continued to mount up. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
He owed me about 9,000, which is about six months' rent. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
That was quite hard for me and my family because | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
I still had to pay the mortgage that was going on all this time, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
so I had to save up and stinge on certain aspects of our life | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
so that I would be able to pay for the mortgage | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
in order not to have the house repossessed. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
Claire decided the only way to stop the situation getting worse | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
was to get the problem tenant evicted. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
In the meantime, the agents made occasional payments, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
but nowhere near what she was owed. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
He told me, "Don't worry. I'm not going to cheat your money." | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Then the tenant leaves. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
"It'll be sorted out once the tenant leaves, right?" | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
So, the tenant left. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
I went to see him and said, "OK, now the tenant has left, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
"can I have my payment, please?" | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
And he started to give me more excuses. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
"Just give me two weeks, I promise. Three weeks. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
"We'll give you a payment in three weeks' time." | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
So, I tried calling him so many times. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Just to speak to him, I have to call, like, ten times a day | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
just to catch him, and then he'll say, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
"Oh, I'll call you back tomorrow. I'll check this out." | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
And he never calls me back, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
so that's when I decided to take him to court. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
But while she was going through the court process, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Claire received some surprising news. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
The council called me up to find out why I evicted the tenant | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
because the tenant was a bit upset, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and I told her it's because the agent hasn't paid the rent | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
for six months. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
That's when I found out | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
that the council had been paying the rent | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
but it's just that, every month, they just deducted a little bit, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
so that's when I found out | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
that he actually had the money all this time. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Claire won her case in court | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
after the agents didn't enter a defence. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
The judge ordered them to pay back the money they owed to Claire. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
He still didn't do anything. There was no response from him. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
That's when I decided to escalate the case to the sheriffs | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
cos I've seen them on TV and they do really well. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
They are my only hope of recovering the money for me. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
In east London, Ken is on his way to Hometrader Properties | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
to get Claire's money back. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
It's a large sum, but will there be enough assets to cover it? | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
There can be assets to seize at an estate agents, yeah. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Computers, printers. There's not usually a great deal, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
but there's still usually a bit of office equipment there. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Right, I've found the place - it's there - but there's no parking, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
surprise, surprise. You've got to watch the wardens. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
They come out of the cracks of the pavement and do you. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I usually have it on me Bromleys pretty quick, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
and get to my car before I get a ticket. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
On your what, Ken? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
Bromley-by-Bows - toes. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
Spoken like a true Cockney. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
The next rhyming slang we'll need is the one for pay up. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
-Knock-knock. Hello. -Hello. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Hi there. Can I speak to the person in charge, please? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Is that yourself, sir? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
My name's Mr Warby from the Court's Sheriffs Office. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
This is regarding a judgment against Hometrader Properties. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
The man doesn't seem to recognise the details of the case, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
but another staff member does. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
Well, we're here as a result of | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
a writ of control from the High Court. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Ken shows his writ, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
but the man says the matter is still in dispute | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
and he asks our cameraman to leave. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Inside, the boss tells Ken | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
that he is contesting the court's decision | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
and so he doesn't want to pay. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
He says the matter is being dealt with | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
by his solicitor, Mr Haque, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
and as his office is only next door, he asks Ken to come and see him, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
but they don't get very far. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
After you. After you. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
After you, I insist. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
-You get him to come in here. -The boss refused to leave first, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
making Ken suspicious it's a ruse to lock him out of the shop. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
I've changed my mind. I want to see him in here. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Mr Haque does come to the agents. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Our camera is invited back in to record the conversation. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Ken's now had a chance to survey the assets in the office, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
and there's not much, so he offers a deal. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Total stands at 8,496.60. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
What I'm prepared to do today is accept half this payment | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
from your client and give 14 days to pay the balance. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
OK? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
What I've done is I've taken a list, an inventory, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
of assets at this address, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and providing I get a signed writ of control, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
I'll give you that 14 days. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
Mr Haque says the court lost his client's paperwork, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
so he wants 14 days to make a new application | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
to challenge the judgment. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
But the courts have issued Ken with a live writ, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
which needs to be paid and no excuses. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
As it stands at the moment, I'm here with this writ of control | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and I'm going to have to insist on half payment. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
I think I'm being more than reasonable. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
The choice is your client either pays half of it | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
or I call up a removal van | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
and remove the goods on my list. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
You can make a complaint, sir, if that's what you want to do. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Mr Haque's refusing to back down. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Instead, he wants to make a complaint. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
Ken gets the office on the phone, but it's his turn to speak first. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
-Hello, Jack. It's Ken. -OVER PHONE: -'Hello.' | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Require a removal van, if possible. It's general office equipment. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
Ken's ramped up the pressure, but Mr Haque's come out fighting. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
OK, this is Jackie. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Mr Haque wrongly believes that Ken is exceeding his powers. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
The office asks him to put his concerns in writing. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Thanks. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
Mr Haque leaves and our camera is again asked to step outside. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
While the boss mulls over the offer of half payment, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Ken continues to list the assets in the office, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
but in the end, removing them isn't necessary. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Realising that the sheriffs have the law on their side, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
the boss gives in. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
They paid me half after some argument, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
and I've got a controlled goods agreement | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
for them to pay the balance within 14 days. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
The job went well. I listed the items in there. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
If they were to go at auction, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
you probably wouldn't get much more than a grand for them anyway. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
And as for their solicitor Mr Haque's objections, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Ken isn't the least bit worried. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
He seems to think that they should have 14 days | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
before they have to pay any money whatsoever. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
I did tell him it was down to my discretion | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and I wanted half payment there and then, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
which is what I got. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Sure enough, Hometrader paid the final balance | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
and Claire Yew has got back the money she was owed. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
I'm very happy about this cos I never expected anyone | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
to be able to recover the money from him, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
but they managed to do it, so I'm very, very thankful to them. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
The manager of Hometrader Properties says that... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
He says he paid for maintenance work on the property | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
for which Ms Yew has never been charged. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And he says that the lettings agent | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
covered the legal costs | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
of the eviction totalling £1,280. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
If you've been ripped off | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
and the person or company responsible refuses to pay you back, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
the first step is to make a claim in the County Court. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
It's simple to do this online. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
For a small fee, depending on the size of the claim, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
the court will review the evidence, and if it finds in your favour, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
the debtor will be ordered to pay up. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
If they don't, then for a further £60, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
the High Court will grant a writ | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
If they're successful, you get all your money back. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
are heading to Ashford in Kent. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
We are going to SBE Ltd. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
We're looking for a total of £2,325 today. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Our claimant is Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
The cleaning company successfully took SBE Ltd to the County Court | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
over an unpaid invoice. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
After the debt still wasn't settled, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
they've now transferred up to the High Court and got a writ. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
The sheriffs don't know much about the details of the case, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
but it does gives the pair the opportunity | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
to reflect on their own cleaning abilities. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
I am quite tidy, actually, yeah. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
I'm afraid my cleaning doesn't come up to scratch at home. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
My garage is always tidy, everything's in its place. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
That's my domain and people aren't allowed in there. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
And it's not just Lawrence's garage that's spic-and-span. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
In the van, too, his orderliness has impressed Kev. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
We've got a first-aid kit, we've got a hammer around here | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
just in case the van turns upside down | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
and we need to smash a windscreen to get out. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
-Doesn't have to be my van, does it? -In case of a werewolf. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Could come across an accident at the side of the road | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
and somebody needs busting out their car. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
If the apocalypse was to hit now, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
we'd be all right in this van, that's all I'm saying. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
There's everything in here you'd ever need. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
LAWRENCE CHUCKLES | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Fortunately, the apocalypse hasn't arrived | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
by the time they reach the business' premises. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
There it is. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
They don't know what SBE Ltd does, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
or whether there'll be any assets to take. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
The signs on the building don't give much away. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
"Global Electronic Service Logistics Management." | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Whatever that means. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
But they'll soon find out. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
-Oh, good morning. -Morning. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Name's Mr Grix... My colleague and I are Enforcement Agents. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
We've got a High Court writ to execute against SBE Ltd, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
so we probably need to speak to somebody in legal or accounts. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
But before reception can call anyone, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
a woman comes down the stairs. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
-Hi, there. -Oh, hello. -We are High Court Enforcement Agents. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
We've got a High Court writ against SBE Ltd on behalf of | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
We are here today to take control of goods to the value of £2,325.53. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
Unfortunately, the bottom line is we have a High Court writ which | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
commands us to come here and take control of goods to clear the debt. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
And the only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-Pay. Transfer. -Transfer. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
The woman takes them upstairs but our camera is asked to leave. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Inside, things start to get complicated. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
They've been joined by the managing director | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
and it seems the company isn't willing to just pay up after all. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
The sheriffs have also realised there's a factory | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
at the back of the building, full of potential assets, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
only the MD won't let them in. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
When Lawrence demands access, the staff set off the alarms. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
ALARM BLARES | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Moments later, the police arrive. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
What should have been a simple job | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
has turned into a headache for the sheriffs. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
After explaining themselves to the officers, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Kev comes outside to fill us in on what's been happening. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Yeah, it's a big old company. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Out the back, the workings of the factory, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
they're repairing mobile phones. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
There are machines and other assets worth thousands. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
No wonder the managing director doesn't want to let the sheriffs in. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
But it seems light-footed Lawrence has managed to give the MD the slip. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Lawrence, in his nimbleness, went through a door | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and we were into the workshop. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
With the sheriffs listing assets in the back, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
it was game over for SBE Ltd. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
We're back dealing with the lady we were initially dealing with. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
She's got her debit card and she's going to be paying. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
So, we've got the card machine here, going to go in there, get payment, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
full payment, and we should be on our way soon. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Kev heads back in with the machine | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
and true to their word, the company finally pay up. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Debtor's assets are the leverage sheriffs need to get paid | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
and they have the right to explore a premises to find them. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
We were dealing with it quite sensibly | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
and calmly initially with the young lady, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
but then the managing director came down and started getting himself | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
involved telling us we couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
We were required to stay in reception. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
We said we weren't going to so he instructed the receptionist to press | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
the panic alarm but I managed to nip through a door | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
when somebody went through it so the young lady came back | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and said she would pay it on her card. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
And that's what happened. So, we got paid in full. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
And with that, the sheriffs head off to the next job. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
The cleaning company will now get the £2,325 they were owed. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
It's 10am and Lawrence and Kev are in Windsor, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
on the trail of a second-hand car salesman with a debt. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
This morning, we are going to see a Mr Howard Brigman, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
trading as Primavera Cars. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
He owes £1,140. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
This is expenses incurred | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
four days after the purchase of a Land Rover Freelander | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and the wheel fell off it. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Not ideal. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
No, it's not good to have a wheel fall off any vehicle, really. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
So, yeah. That's who we're after now. We're a couple of miles away. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
Lawrence and Kev are working on behalf of Mandy Springer. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
She was driving with her grandchild Dante in the car | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
when the incident happened. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
She'd only just bought the Land Rover from a local dealer | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
she'd found on the internet called Primavera Cars. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
The salesman seemed fairly helpful, he was quite a friendly fellow | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
and he didn't seem to know very much about the car, actually. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
When I was asking him, "Had the car been serviced?" He said, "Oh, no." | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
Nevertheless, it seemed to be what she was looking for. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
My husband and I looked over the car, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
we did pop the bonnet as well, we looked underneath for any | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
kind of mysterious rusting | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
and you know, it seemed sound to look at. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
The Land Rover had a new MOT and Mandy negotiated a discount | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
to pay for a service she'd arrange later. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Thinking she had a good deal, she paid £3,600 and drove it away. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
Only a few days later, disaster struck. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
I'd come off the motorway and as I pressed the brake, the car shook, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
I just about held it... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
..and you could hear | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
something, like, it snapped. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
I was very fortunate that the guy behind me | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
didn't actually smash into me. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
Another guy came out and was knocking on the window, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
shouting, "Your wheel's come off the car!" | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
The wheel had come almost completely detached | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
and the car was stranded in the middle of the road. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
We're in two lanes of traffic because the car had slightly swerved | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
into the other lane, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
so we could have been hit by any car coming down. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
I think my grandson and I definitely could have been killed that day. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
It wasn't safe to stay in the car, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
so Mandy took 22-month-old Dante onto the verge | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
and called Primavera Cars. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
There was no footway to stand, so we were standing in brambles. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I was trying to get help from the garage. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
In the end, it was kind of like I was just arguing | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
and wasting my time. He refused to help me. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
He didn't care, he didn't care at all. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
So Mandy called the police who helped recover the car. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
But Primavera wouldn't take it back. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
They said, "No," they didn't want to help at all. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Instead, it was delivered to a Land Rover specialist. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
When he examined it, Mandy was shocked by what he found. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
He gave me four of these, these are spacers. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
I didn't know anything about spacers until he told me. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
It's to make the wheels look bigger, make the car look bulkier, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
so maybe a boy racer might have stuff like this on their cars. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
The spacer sits between the hub and the wheel, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
and on this one, four of the five connecting bolts had failed. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
This was the one where the wheel came off, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
it was just by the grace of God that that one held on. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Using wheel spacers isn't illegal in the UK, but should be declared | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
to insurance companies as an after-market modification. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Mandy feels she ought to have been warned. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
These should have been taken off the car prior to them selling it. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
They should have known about these. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Mandy took Howard Brigman to court. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
He didn't defend the case and was ordered to pay her back | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
the money she spent on fixing the car and her costs. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Brigman offered to pay Mandy by bank transfer, but she was worried. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
I didn't trust their actions at all. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
There was no way I was going to give them my bank details. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Wary of giving out her details, Mandy said she wanted a cheque, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
one of the other payment methods recommended by the court. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
But Brigman refused. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
At one point, they called me eight times in one day, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
kept calling and calling and saying, "We want your bank details. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
"If you don't give us your bank details, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
"we're going to issue a counter action against you." | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
They could have made payment at any time and they refused to do it. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
And then there were the text messages. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
"I'm still not happy about the way this has played out | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
"and I would suggest you receive adequate training in car mechanics | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
"before checking the vehicle over yourself in future instances." | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
So I thought... | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
..at the end of the day, you sold a car to somebody, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
it could have killed them. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
In fact, the law makes it clear that the dealer is | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
responsible for the vehicle being fit for purpose. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
With the garage apparently unwilling to send her the cheque she wanted, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Mandy was left with little choice. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
I had seen The Sheriff on telly before. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Never thought in a million years that I'd have to use them. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
I was angry enough and I did want something to be done. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
I did want my money back. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
And so now Lawrence and Kev are on their way to get it for her. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
Since Mandy bought her car, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
Howard Brigman has joined forces with a new business partner | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
and they now trade as Primavera Cars Ltd, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
operating from the same address as before. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Howard Brigman's partner is on site | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
and he seems to know all about the case. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
Hello, there. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Yeah, good thank you. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
-Yeah. -Yes. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
Right, well she's sent us out with a High Court writ. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
£1,140.62 pays us, gets her paid and we're gone. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Lawrence isn't here to run messages around and it's now too late for | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
the car dealer to make a payment directly to Mandy. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Right, problem being she's now transferred it to the | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
High Court for enforcement purposes. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
What you need to seek is independent legal advice, we're not here | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
to advise you. We're here to obviously execute the writ | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
on behalf of our claimant. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
The man doesn't want to pay the costs of the sheriffs' visit. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
But like it or not, the full amount is what he'll need to come up with. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
We hold the money for 14 days, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
it doesn't get disbursed straight away, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
so that gives you 14 days to get legal advice. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Then if we're ordered to pay back the money, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
we pay back the money, simple as that. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
But at the moment, we've got a High Court writ | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
that says this has got to be paid. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
The man doesn't want our camera in his office and we're asked to leave. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
He doesn't protest much longer however, and Kev soon comes out. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
Spoke to the guy. He knows all about it, to be fair. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
He's going to make payment now, so I've got the card machine, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
brought the van up and he's going to pay and off we go. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
The man does indeed pay | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
and he invites our camera back in to tell his side of the story. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
He says he thought the accident might have happened | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
because a friend of Mandy's had given the car a once over. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
She said that, "Two days ago, my brother-in-law, who's a mechanic, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
"was looking over the car," and all that, "and found some bits." | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
Anyway, and then she said the wheel came off two days after that. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
I said, "Well, sounds like something that he's probably done, then." | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
He says Primavera offered to look at the car, but Mandy refused. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
They didn't defend the case because they didn't receive the paperwork. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
And he says, following the judgment, they tried to pay | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
but the disagreements over the payment method was the problem. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
She wanted a cheque. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
We kept asking for, e-mails asking her, for her sort code | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
and account number, so we could pay it. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
Cos we want evidence to show that we've done it. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
So we know it's been paid, so we can go to the court and let them know | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
that it's all been done. Cos we don't want this going any further. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Mandy was under no obligation to give out her details | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
and cheque is one of the payment methods recommended by the courts. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Refusing to send one has now cost Primavera Cars, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
though the man has come up with a way to make sure | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
he gets his money's worth. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
We'll do a selfie. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
That was about as easy a job as you'll ever get, to be honest. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
The gentleman saw us, recognised us, invited us into the office, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
he knew exactly what case it was about. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
He's not overly happy that he's got our fees on top now, but he was half | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
expecting a visit from us anyway | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
and just paid us straightaway on a card. So... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
all in all another successful case for our client. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Back in Reading, it's the news Mandy's been waiting for. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
It's been a really good result. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
I'm pleased that I did get in contact with the sheriffs cos | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
they've helped take the stress out of a stressful situation. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
So I'm really pleased. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
I just sincerely hope that doesn't happen again to somebody else. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
From multinationals to dodgy car dealers, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
for the sheriffs, it's all the same. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
And on the edge of London's financial district, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Enforcement Agent Ken Warby is looking for a household name. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
We're going to see Post Office Ltd. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
They are the debtors. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
The claimant is a small-time landlord, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
who owns a shop which provided postal services. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
When the sub-postmaster left, fixtures and fittings | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
belonging to the Post Office were left behind for months, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
which the landlord claims prevented him from renting the property out. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
He took the company to court for storage costs, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
and won a default judgment after the company didn't defend the case. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:37 | |
Now it's down to Ken to get more than £11,000 owed. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
That's our building on the left there, I think, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
where the scaffolding is outside. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
But there's no parking outside - | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
and a road closure sends him on a long detour. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
You couldn't make this up. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
By the time he's found somewhere to park, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
he's got a mile-long walk back to the Post Office. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Just trying to find the job now! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
When he gets there, the offices look like a building site. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Nevertheless, this is the address on the writ, so Ken heads in. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
Hi there, sorry to bother you, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I want to speak to someone at the Post Office Ltd. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
They're not here any more? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
The man says the building is being converted into a hotel. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
It took us 20 minutes to walk from the car to here | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and they're not here. Wonderful. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Satisfied that the Post Office Ltd have moved out, Ken leaves. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
And the claimant won't get their money today. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
There's nothing we can do there because it's totally empty. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
They've got no forwarding information on the company. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
They've set up somewhere else around here, I'm sure they will have. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
So we'll just have to find them and go from there. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
It's not quite as simple as finding the new office and marching in. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
The sheriffs are legally obliged | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
to give debtors seven days' notice of their arrival. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
And it's now looking like the letter they sent | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
would have gone to the wrong address. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
A couple of weeks later, though, and Ken is back on the hunt. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Just like last time, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
there's been no response to the letter the sheriffs have sent. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
But Ken has a theory. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
Must have got lost in the post. Don't know. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
This time, he finds a spot nearby and heads straight in. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
But our cameraman isn't allowed to follow him. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
We continue filming from the street | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
while Ken explains he's there to collect more than £11,000. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
He's then left to sit in reception | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
while the staff try to figure out what's going on. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
A succession of different people come to talk to him, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
but so far none of them have offered any payment. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
The woman dealing with it in the legal department | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
has left me sitting in reception for the best part of an hour. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
They are contacting other people at a different legal department, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
I believe somewhere in Bolton. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
I'm getting a bit bored. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Ken goes back inside, where the waiting game continues. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
After more conversations with the staff, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
the Post Office still haven't agreed to pay up. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Ken could demand to go upstairs | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
and start making a list of assets to take away. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
He doesn't want to escalate the situation unless it's necessary, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
but after three hours, that moment's getting closer. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
I'm starting to lose my patience now. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
I'm just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
If they don't, then I'm just going to march around their offices, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
list their items, call up a van with a view to remove their goods. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
So that's where we are at the moment. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
The waiting might be getting on his nerves, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
but to recover 11 grand, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Ken would have to remove a lot of office equipment. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
So, on this occasion, playing the long game | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
is the best way to get a result. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
It's quite frustrating cos they've got about six magazines in there | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and I've read them cover to cover so far. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
But that's this job, sometimes - | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
you have to wait around quite a long time for payments. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Sure enough, the Mexican standoff soon reaches its finale. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
The Post Office Ltd appears to be on the brink of paying up. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
But before the deal is sealed, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Ken has to evade some additional expenses of his own. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
..but I'm about to take my seat and get in the audience. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Payment is imminent, but I just need to relocate this car, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
otherwise I'll get a ticket. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
With his car safe from traffic wardens, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Ken makes his way back to Post Office's HQ. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
This time, he only has to wait another ten minutes. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Right, well, after just over four hours of waiting, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
the sheriff finally got his man. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
£11,947.42, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
exactly what I came for to begin with. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Great result, and claimant has got his money. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
It's been a long day, but it was worth it. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Ken's persistence and patience | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
have got the claimant back the money they were owed. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
The Post Office Ltd subsequently applied | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
to have the judgment against them set aside, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
but discontinued their appeal. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
The Post Office told us... | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
And they... | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Sheriffs are now officially known as High Court Enforcement Agents, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
and they'll collect the money you're owed. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
My job is to collect in full or remove goods. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
They've got more powers of entry than bailiffs. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
We don't have to take any notice of your security protocols, I'm afraid. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
And there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
£1.6 million. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
Their fees are set by the government, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
which debtors have to pay on top of what they already owe. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Thank you very much. See you later. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
If the sheriffs can't recover any of your money, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
there's a fee of £75 plus VAT. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
It's just gone midday and Lawrence and Kev are in Putney, South London, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
looking to recoup another unpaid debt. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
We are going to WP&E Hospitality Ltd. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
Looking for £3,805. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
Our client is Fish! Kitchen Ltd. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
I believe this is for the supplying of fish. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
They didn't pay for their fish. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
WP&E Hospitality Ltd trade as The Lobster House, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
a fish and seafood restaurant on the Thames. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Lawrence is always excited about going out for lunch. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, I believe this fish restaurant we're going to | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
is quite a nice PLAICE. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
Wah, wah, waaah. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
But don't CARP on about it, will you? | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
It's not the first time the sheriffs have visited a restaurant. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
It's a business that's famously hard to make a success of, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
as the claimant in this case also knows all too well. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
Tony Allan is himself a chef with two restaurants | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
going by the name of The Fish! Kitchen, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
but he originally built up his business as a fish supplier. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
I was so disillusioned with the fact... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
what I was getting in restaurants as a chef, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
and I thought I could do a lot better. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
Tony started buying better fish at the docks | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
and selling it to chefs he knew. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Within a few years, he was supplying 600 restaurants. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
And at one point, he had his own TV show with Giorgio Locatelli. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
But he's since scaled-down the wholesale side of the business, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
preferring instead to source fish just for his own restaurants | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
and his fishmongers next door. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I wasn't interested in supplying restaurants. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
For years, I was perhaps waiting anything from 30 to 90 days | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
for our revenue to come back, our money to come in. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
We do a couple of local restaurants that pay | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
when they come in and take their produce. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
But, really, we are a retail supplier. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
But he recently got reeled back in to the wholesale trade | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
when WP&E Hospitality Ltd came knocking on his door. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
When they opened The Lobster House, the director, Mr Ling, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
decided he wanted Tony to supply him and to pick his brains for advice. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
The owner of the restaurant came in to see me. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
I could see that he needed help. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
We're not just fishmongers, I have restaurants of my own. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I've had a lot of experience in planning menus, balancing menus. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
He appealed to my better nature. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
You know, he met me next-door, he really wanted to buy off us. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
I looked at this as a one-off, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
and I wanted him to succeed, because we would've carried | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
on supplying him, we would've had a good business relationship. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
And I thought I was helping him out, really. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Initially, WP&E Hospitality Ltd paid in cash. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
But soon, they wanted credit. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
After three or four months, he then phoned me | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
and said could he have an account, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
I think we've built up enough trust. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
At the same time, however, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Tony noticed not everything was hunky-dory with the new restaurant. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
He was buying very sporadically. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
And then I had a look at the stuff they were buying, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
it didn't match the menu. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
I could see that the chefs were changing, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
the voices on the answerphone were completely different. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
And that sent the alarm bells ringing, really. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Tony had seen the writing on the wall. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
And soon after, he was reminded why he didn't want to supply | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
restaurants in the first place. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
We hadn't been paid for two months, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
and I asked him to come in to see me. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
I explained to him, "I can't really supply you any more." | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
And he said, "OK, I'll send you a cheque." He never did. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
I phoned him two or three times, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
I even went over to the restaurant to see him. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
I spoke to Chris, my finance director, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
and I said to him that, "We've got to take legal action." | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Before that, Chris tried to sort the matter out himself, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
but he had no more luck than Tony. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
It was very frustrating. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 | |
We had to make several phone calls, send e-mails, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
none of which were replied to. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
When I did actually finally get to speak to the defendant, | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
he indicated that there wasn't any more money in the business | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
and that he was looking for further funding from abroad, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
which was due within a month or two. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
At this point, The Lobster House owed over £2,500. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Before the case went to court, WP&E Hospitality Ltd had | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
one last chance to reach an agreement with Tony and Chris. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
We had mediation beforehand and he offered between £800, £900. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
£900, you know, I could've taken that. But it's not the money. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
Normally, it would be the money, not the principle. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
But this time it was the principle | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
for the amount of time and effort I put in to help the man. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
After Tony declined the offer, the case was heard in court. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Fish! Kitchen won and WP&E Hospitality | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
was ordered to pay the full amount. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Only Tony hasn't seen a penny. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
And now the best we can hope for | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
is that the sheriffs actually produce. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
They've got a very difficult job on this one. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
But if anyone can get his money back, it's Lawrence and Kev, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
and they're headed to The Lobster House, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
hoping to meet its director Mr Ling. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
-That's it. -The Lobster House? -Yes. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
The building is unmistakable. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
But peering through the window, it doesn't look promising. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
-They're not open anyway. -It's being refurbed. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
The front entrance is locked. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
But around the back, someone comes to the door. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
Hello there. My name's Mr Grix. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
-My colleague and I are Enforcement Agents. -All right. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
We've got a High Court writ against WP&E Hospitality Ltd, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
trading as The Lobster House. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
The woman says The Lobster House have moved out. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
She's currently setting up a new Mediterranean restaurant. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
Have you not been here long? | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
So are you a new company, are you? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Yeah, sure, cheers. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
Given they only moved out recently, Lawrence needs to make sure that | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
none of WP&E Hospitality Ltd's goods are still on the premises. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
You rent the building, but you've bought all the fixtures | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
-and fittings, have you? -Yes. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
So who was that money to? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
So he's basically sold you the bits and pieces and moved out? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
The woman hasn't got paperwork to hand to prove what she's saying, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
but Lawrence is happy enough. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
I completely believe what you're saying. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
And you can see it is being refurbished. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
As he will still need to see proof, he asked the woman to send | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
her paperwork through to the sheriffs' office | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
and he has got some advice for the new restaurant. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
Once you've got this paperwork together, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
have them all to hand so that | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
if you do get any more Enforcement Agents coming round for | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
-whatever debt, you can say, "Look, this is us, we took over then." -OK. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-And they'll be gone quicker than us. -OK. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
-OK? -See you later, have a good day. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
With no debtor and no assets, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
there is nothing more the sheriffs can do today. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
They don't give up easily, though. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
And six weeks later, Kev's been able to dredge up some new information. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
I did a bit of research, I've come up with this new address for them. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
So we'll go here today, | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
see if we can have more luck here than we did before. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
It's another nibble on the line, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
but the sheriffs know from experience | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
not to get their hopes up. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
If the restaurant has shut, the company could well | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
be in financial trouble, and the new address might not bear any fruit. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
It's more likely to be a director's home address | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
or a registered office. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:47 | |
If they've gone from the trading address, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
it's unlikely you'll find assets anywhere else. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
They arrive at the address, but it is not obvious how to get in. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
Luckily, a man in a neighbouring unit has arrived at the same time. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
-Looking for 1B. -Oh, that's upstairs. -That's upstairs, is it? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
-Is that through that door there, is it? -It is. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
-Are you just about to open that? -I am. -Excellent news for us. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
Lovely. Cheers. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Having charmed his way in, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:19 | |
Lawrence makes his way to the 1B office. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
Morning. Hi there, I'm looking for WP&E Hospitality Ltd. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
You are an office acting for them? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
In what capacity? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
So, what's the name of your business, sir? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
The man says this is just WP&E Hospitality Ltd's | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
registered address and that he runs a separate company. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
Lawrence isn't yet convinced that he has nothing to do with the debt. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
Are the two companies connected at all? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
So are you a director of both companies? | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
Right. Now we're getting somewhere. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
It's Mr Ling, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
the man Tony said he helped with The Lobster House's menus. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
We are here today with a High Court writ | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
-on behalf of Fish! Kitchen Ltd... -Yeah. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
..we are ordered to take control of goods to the value of £3,851.78. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
You're responsible, sir. So how would you like to pay? | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Have you got cash here or would you like to pay on a card? | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
Bank transfer? | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
But Mr Ling doesn't want to pay. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
Yes. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:33 | |
So, you haven't had the money for the restaurant yet? | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
Right, so you're telling me the company's got no money? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
Right, well, I'll have to take control of assets then. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
Just as Lawrence feared, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
Mr Ling says that WP&E Hospitality is broke. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
What's more, he claims it doesn't own anything in this office. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
Lawrence will need to see proof. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
If you can't prove today that it belongs to FM Europe Ltd, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
we will be taking it. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
Everything can go - cupboards, desks, chairs, computers... | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Mr Ling starts to look through his receipts. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
But the sheriffs don't really want the stuff here | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
as its value wouldn't cover the cost of removing it. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
They're hoping the threat will convince him to pay up. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
It seems, however, that Mr Ling genuinely can't. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
He shows Lawrence the company's bank statement. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
All right, OK. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:33 | |
So you can't come up with any funds today? | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Right. So now we come back... | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
Mr Ling says he's expecting some money to come in | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
from the sale of the restaurant in the next couple of weeks. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
Lawrence isn't going to waste his afternoon emptying this tiny office, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
so instead, he lists the goods and Mr Ling promises to pay | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
when his money comes through. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
Right, this is your control goods agreement. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
OK, so the agreement is payment in full by the 14th of December. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
-Yeah, right. -OK? So you need to sign, print and date that. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
OK? Bye-bye. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
And with that, they head for home. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
There was no assets there, that's the biggest trouble you've got. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
It would never be worth removing for a job like that, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
so there's not a lot you can do. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
We saw his bank account. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
So it's sort of hitting your head | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
against a brick wall on that one a little bit. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
The only thing we can hope for is that when he does get his money | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
for the sale of the restaurant, that he pays then. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
What happened to the money from | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
the sale of the restaurant though is unclear. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Shortly after the sheriffs' visit, WP&E Hospitality Ltd went | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
into liquidation and Mr Ling hasn't settled the debt to Fish! Kitchen. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
We won't be receiving our money. And, obviously, we're disappointed. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
But I think, myself and Chris, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
are resigning to the fact that we wasn't going to get paid. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
One of those things in business. These things happen all the time. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
Put a line under this now and move on. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
In the north-east, sheriff Chris Pearson | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
is on his way to a very different kind of job. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
He's going to see a seller of upmarket bathrooms | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
who's got a debt to pay. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
We're off to Stockton-on-Tees to see a company called Envy Homes. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
Envy Homes owes £2,286 | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
after falling behind | 0:48:42 | 0:48:43 | |
with payments to a supplier - | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
City Distribution Ltd. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
The company was taken to court. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
It didn't defend the case and judgment was found against it. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
Chris has been told it's a small, one-man company, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
and on arrival, is pleasantly surprised. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Envy Homes. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
Ah, looks more than a one-man band to me. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
If it's a company, they normally have assets | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
and it's normally straightforward. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
Fingers crossed that's how it's going to be here. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
It's a large showroom full of stock. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
But despite it being the middle of the day, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
there doesn't seem to be anyone in. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
Just as he's trying to reach the debtor by phone, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-a man arrives. -How are you doing? Is this your premises, sir? | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
-It is, yes. -Yeah, all right. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
I've got a High Court writ to do with City Distribution Ltd. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
You've got a balance at the minute of £2,285.61. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
I haven't got all that sort of money at the moment, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
but I dare say I could have, like, half of it within a couple of days. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Yeah, you need to get it right now. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
We're actually here to take control of your goods. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
-I'll see what I can do. -No problem, I'll hang fire. No problem. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
The man goes inside to see if he can raise the money, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
and for the time being at least, Chris is happy to wait. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
I'll give him time to make a few phone calls. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
I'm sure the threat of us going in there | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
and taking his stock, I think that's going to be more than enough | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
to get him to get the funds for us. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
And while the boss does what he has to do, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
Chris is doing a bit of window-shopping. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
I like that mirror. See the mirror? I know it's just a standard mirror, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
but the effect of it's nice, isn't it? | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
The boss has called some friends to try to borrow the money, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
and while he waits to hear back, tells Chris what's gone on. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
I always paid them. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
I had problems before, but I always cleared my debts OK. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
-But just this year, it's just killed it. -Right. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
It's just dead and so I couldn't pay the first month. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
Then the second month hit and I just said, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
"Look, I'm sorry, I'm still struggling." | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
I just assumed they'd realise business would be bad | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
and they would just take it easy. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:43 | |
I didn't expect you guys to turn up, put it that way. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
But the County judgment was issued against the business | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
more than two months ago and it should have been settled. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
Now faced with a demand for immediate payment, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
it's not clear whether he's going to be able | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
to get the money together. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
I don't know who he's phoning, what's happening, to be honest. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
If he can't get the money, there's plenty of assets for us | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
to take control of, so we're fine there. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
I can give him as long as he needs, really. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
He seems a genuine guy, he's trying to sort things out, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
so try and give him a bit of extra time. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
Time to check out the bathtubs. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
Very nice. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:20 | |
I don't think I can afford these prices, though. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
Bit expensive in here. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
We're more B&Q type people, to be honest. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
Meanwhile... | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
..the boss has called in a couple of favours | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
and some friends have dropped by with the cash. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
It looks like Chris is home and dry, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
but when he counts the money, there seems to be a problem. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
-How much did you say was there? -It should be exactly... | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
Well, the exact amount. Is it off, is it? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
Absolutely. It's quite a way off. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
You're 520 short, by the looks of it. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
The man had told Chris it was the right amount to the penny, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
yet more than £500 seems to be missing. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
-Could you give me five minutes? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
I'll see what I can sort out cos I don't know why... | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
Just when it looked like the job was in the bag, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
everything's been thrown into doubt. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
If the man doesn't have the cash, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
then Chris might have to take goods after all. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
But luckily, it turns out to be a simple mistake. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
Right, located, mate. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | |
There was some in the back of the drawer. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
Check it over, but it's definitely right now. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
Yeah, that's right there. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
-Well done, mate. Brilliant. Thank you. -OK. -Thanks for your help. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
Cheers. Appreciate that. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
At the end of the day, I wasn't planning on going anywhere. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
As you can see, my showroom's still here, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
but the company decided to basically go forward | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
and put a County Court Judgment against the company | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
to get the money back. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
But, as I said, you can only pay it if you've got it. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
Until you guys turned up today, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:51 | |
I thought they'd just given me a bit of a breathing space | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
to try and get some money together. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
The man's supplier has finally got the money they were owed, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
and Chris is just glad to see the matter resolved | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
in the best way possible. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
He's a genuine guy, pretty nice guy, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
so I'm happy for him that he got the money together, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
rather than having to tip him out, take all the gear. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
Home improvement businesses often end up with sheriffs at their doors. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
And while Chris has been checking out bathrooms in Stockton, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
Ken's now on his way to a kitchen fitters in London. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
His destination is Daler Kitchens Ltd, who were taken to court | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
by an unhappy customer. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
The company contested the case, but judgment was awarded against them | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
and they were ordered to pay the customer back. They haven't. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
So it's now down to Ken to try to collect nearly £11,000. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
Here we are. Daler Kitchens and Bedrooms. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Writ in hand, Ken heads inside. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
Hello. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
-Daler Kitchens Ltd. -Yeah. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:08 | |
Are you the person in charge? | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
The woman in the shop is just a junior member of staff. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
She gets the manager on the phone | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
and Ken explains the purpose of his visit. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
Hello. Yes, Mr Warby speaking. I'm here regarding | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
a writ of control against Daler Kitchens Ltd. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
Is that your company, sir? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
You got the name over your shop front. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Ken explains that he's here to collect nearly £11,000, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
including costs. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
We're here to collect in full, or remove goods. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
This is your solicitor saying... | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
Do you mind getting your solicitor to give me a call? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
The man says he's applying to appeal the court's decision. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
This hasn't been stopped because | 0:54:53 | 0:54:54 | |
I'm here with a writ of control from the High Court, so... | 0:54:54 | 0:54:59 | |
Let me speak to your solicitor. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
In the meantime, I'll be getting on with my inventory. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
All right. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:05 | |
He clearly doesn't want to pay, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
so Ken begins making a list of the assets in the building. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
If the manager doesn't change his tune, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
then Ken will have no choice but to remove it. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
And when Daler Kitchens' solicitor soon calls, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
it's Ken that's giving him a lesson in the law. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
We've got a stamped in the High Court, writ of control. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
So, unfortunately for your client, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
this kind of trumps any application that might have been made thus far. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:33 | |
The solicitor wants more time, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
but Ken thinks they've had long enough already. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
I can't give these people any time. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
A notice of enforcement was sent to this address | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
and it's gone unanswered, and that's why we're here now. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
But with the goods in the shop not worth much to Ken, he offers a deal. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
Providing they pay the balance within 14 days, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
I would be willing to get a signed control goods agreement, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
but I am going to need at least 50% of this debt paid now. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
We're talking £5,500. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
The solicitor agrees to put the offer to the shop's owner. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
If he doesn't accept the deal, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
then Ken's next call will be to the removals company. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
He's still waiting to hear back when another woman involved in | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
the business arrives at the scene and takes over. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
She asks our camera to leave, while Ken stays inside to try to get her | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
to pay at least half of the 11 grand owed. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
45 minutes later, he's on his way. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
See you later. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
After much deliberation, they have now paid me £1,000 in cash, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
and £4,500 by card | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
and signed a controlled goods agreement to pay | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
the balance within 14 days. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
The total goods in there... | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
would fetch, I would imagine, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
less than £2,000, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
so that is a good result. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
Daler Kitchens Ltd later paid the other £5,500, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
and the customer who had been refused a refund | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
finally got their money back. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 |