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-Meet the sheriffs. -My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-It's to do with a High Court order. -They work for the High Court, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and if it says you're owed money, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
They can demand payment on the spot... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
How are you going to pay it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
..or remove assets instead. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
The car will be going, unless you can pay it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-I wouldn't do that if I was you. -The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Every year in England and Wales, unpaid debts totalling more | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
than £80 million are recovered by the sheriffs. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
Louise Alderson thought she'd bought herself the perfect second-hand car, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
but it was a deathtrap. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
The back wheels were only holding on by one wheel nut, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
the side impact bars weren't there. I am lucky to be alive. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
But when the sheriffs visit the dealer, it all kicks off. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
A budding property developer's lost out | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
after squatters took over his building. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
We have subsidised the squatters by approximately £20,000. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
When the sheriffs try to evict them, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
they get more than they bargained for. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Didn't see all that, did you? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
At a demolition company, Lawrence eyes up some seriously heavy goods. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
We've been sent to this address today, sir, to take control | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
of goods, which at the moment is the excavators and the crusher. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Ken's got a writ for a multinational giant. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
Look at the size of these buildings! It looks like Cape Canaveral. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
The sheriffs' success is often down to their ability to take | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
control of the debtor's goods to use as leverage until they get paid, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
but debtors often claim their assets belong to someone else. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
The sheriffs won't take that at face value, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and will always do what they can to get to the truth. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Today, in the West Midlands, Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild's | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
investigative skills are about to be tested. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
We're going back to a job where... We've been to before. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
It's a car pound. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
When we went before, we left notification of our attendance. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
They haven't responded to our paperwork, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
so we're back here again. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
The debtor deals in second-hand cars, and the claimant in the case | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
is Louise Alderson, a teacher who came across | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
the company when she was looking for a new car to get her to work. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
My old car had done quite a lot of mileage, and it was getting to | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
the point where it probably needed a lot of repair work. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
I was looking for another Ford Fiesta. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
And when I spotted a lovely car advertised in Auto Trader, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
it looked really sporty and really attractive. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And I'd just got married | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
and my husband said, "Yeah, spoil yourself." | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
So Louise went to have a look... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
and was initially underwhelmed by the dealership. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
My first impression was that, actually, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
this isn't what I was expecting. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
It was in the middle of an industrial estate, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
there was a tip nearby, and it didn't have a proper office. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
So I was immediately put off by that, but then when I saw the car | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
and saw how lovely it was, and the man, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
the sales guy I spoke to, he came across as very friendly and | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
very genuine, very honest, so that changed my mind. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
The Fiesta was £6,000, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
reduced to £5,000 with the part exchange of her old car. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
She took out a loan to pay for it, and drove it away. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
But it wasn't long before she experienced | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
the first sign of trouble. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
About ten miles, maybe 15 miles away, on the way home, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
the engine warning light came on. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
So I pulled over, phoned them up and said this is what's happened, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and he basically said, "Turn the engine off and turn it back | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
"on again, and I assure you it won't come back on." And it didn't. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
But when the same thing happened the following day, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Louise was very worried and so she took the car to a Ford specialist | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
to check it over. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
They discovered the truth about Louise's new car - | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
it had been badly repaired after an accident | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and it had some serious problems. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
The welding had been done incorrectly, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
the brake pipe was severely bent. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
The fan... The wiring for the brakes was actually hanging into the fan, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and all of the electrics, most of them, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
had been disconnected, so it didn't even have air conditioning. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
It was a shock. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
A, I was very emotionally upset, and B, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I'd just spent the money, couldn't afford, needed a car for | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
work and was thinking, "What on earth am I going to do?" | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
What she did was get straight on the phone to the dealers. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
They told me that the actual owner was away...abroad at the time. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:55 | |
And we'd have to wait until the following Monday until he was back. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
That Monday came and went, no call. I phoned them. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
They still said, "Oh, no, he's still not here, you'll have to wait." | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
And it was a continuum of that, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
my husband tried to ring them and speak to them as well. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
However, they just kept fobbing me off. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Frustrated, Louise called Trading Standards. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
They sent out an independent vehicle inspector, who found even more | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
problems with the car. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
The back wheels were only holding on by one wheel nut. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
He found there had been other damage, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
the side impact bars weren't there. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
He actually said I was very lucky to be alive. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
And that's how I do feel, that I am lucky to be alive. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Yet even with this damning verdict on the car's dangerous condition, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
the garage still wouldn't commit to giving her a refund. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
It was just a continuum of, "Where's the car, we want the car, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
"meet the car, we'll send somebody out to get the car." | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
But never at any point promising to actually pay for it | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
at the same time as well. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
And my husband and I had decided that the one thing that we were | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
adamant about not happening was for that car to go back on the road. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
So, Louise pursued the dealership through the County Courts. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
They didn't defend the case, and she was awarded a default judgment, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
requiring the company to pay her back, plus costs. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
They didn't, and now Louise has turned to the sheriffs as | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
a last resort. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
The whole thing has been such an ordeal, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:23 | |
I've had sleepless nights, I've been ill through it. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
All I can hope is that the sheriffs can get some money back for | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
this for me, because if they can't do it, nobody can. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
The last time the sheriffs visited the dealership, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
they found a large lot full of vehicles, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
but it was locked up and no-one was around, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
so all they could do was leave a letter. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Today, they're back, and things look a lot more promising. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-It's open. -Are you ready? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Again, there are plenty of cars in the yard, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
and this time the sheriffs have no problem finding someone to speak to. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Is the boss about? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
-He's not here at the moment, mate. -Can he be contacted? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
We need to get him on the phone, basically. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
They don't seem surprised to see the sheriffs, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
and manage to get the company director on the phone. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
It's to do with the High Court writ that's been issued against | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
the company for £8,627.07, as it stands at the moment. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
Obviously they've sent us out, they've sent us out to execute this court writ today. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
And it sounds like he's making all the noises Craig likes to hear. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Right. Brilliant. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-Lovely. -Sounds positive. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
It seems that it could be... he's just sorting it out. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Maybe he got the letter before. So, it could be getting sorted. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
Actually, the situation isn't quite as straightforward | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
as Tommy is hoping. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
The director doesn't want to pay, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
and says the sheriffs can't touch the cars here. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
He's saying that all the stock belongs to another limited company, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
and they're supplying us now more documentation for the cars here. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
In other words, none of the assets here belong to the debtor. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
If so, then the sheriffs will more than likely have to leave | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
empty-handed, but they're not going to just take his word for it. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
So what we need to do, we'll just make a list now. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
-If we can tick them off. -OK. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
There may be dozens of cars here, but the sheriffs plan to | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
check every single one against the paperwork the director provides. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
So they start noting the registration numbers of the cars. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
DY09. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
FG56. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
FG56. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
WP07. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
It's like a maze getting through here, a maze of cars. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
It's going to take some time, but as they only need to find a few | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
decent cars belonging to the debtor company, it might be worth it. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Just when they're getting stuck in, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Craig's interrupted by a phone call from his office. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
The director has sent in some paperwork as promised, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
but all it does is convince the sheriffs they're on the right track. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
We've had an e-mail in straight away from the director, but they only | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
list two cars, which I don't think are even here, to be fair. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Meanwhile, perhaps unsure themselves of what stock is here, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
the employees are making a list of their own. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
They're taking their own lists. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
If they can supply the evidence that it was bought and paid for by | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
a third-party company, rather than our company, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
then we'll be satisfied with that and then we'll walk away. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
If they can't supply that, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
then clearly we'll take it to the next level. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Later, tempers flare as the sheriffs up the ante. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Mind that egg. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Your cameraman! | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
If this balance isn't paid, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
then we're instructed to remove these vehicles. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Using the County Courts to try to recover money you're owed | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
isn't difficult. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
1.5 million money claims are made every year in England and Wales, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
to unpaid invoices. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
If you're successful, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
a County Court Judgment, or CCJ, will be issued against the debtor, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
and if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
Enforcing a writ often requires the sheriffs to draw on all | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
their powers of persuasion and negotiation, but these tactics | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
work best when the debtor is willing to engage in a meaningful dialogue. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
Sometimes debtors simply don't want to play ball. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
In the south-east today, sheriffs Laurence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
are about to demonstrate that it's sheer persistence | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
that pays off. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
This morning we are on our way to Pyecombe in West Sussex, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
just outside Brighton. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
We're going to see Wealden Haulage & Demolition Limited, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and this debt is relating to... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
tipper hire charges, crushed concrete haulage and muck away. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
In other words, waste disposal services | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
supplied by another company, who haven't been paid. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Wealden Haulage & Demolition Limited were taken to court | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
and didn't offer a defence, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
so judgment was entered by default. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Three months later and they still haven't paid, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
but the sheriffs are hoping to finally make sure they do. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
They owe a total of £16,335. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
They actually operate off a farm, so we're going to go there. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
As they turn in to the address, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
they immediately set eyes on a haulage truck. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
This is the right place, isn't it? | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
They head past the farm shop and up the track towards a house. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Hello. Hello, you two. Hello. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-Morning, sir. -Hello. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
I'm looking for Wealden Haulage & Demolition Limited. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-That's me. -That's you. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
It's Markus Saich, the company director. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
We have a High Court writ to execute against | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Wealden Haulage & Demolition. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-The amount outstanding today is £16,335.99. -Right. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
We're ordered out to take control of | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
goods to that value to clear the debt... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
-Right. -..and the only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Yeah, but I've applied to the court to have that set aside, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
and I'm waiting to hear back, so... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
-Right. An application doesn't stop enforcement, sir. -I've... | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-I've been told it does. -By a solicitor? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah? No, it doesn't. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
Is this your private residence or is the business actually run from here? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
-The business is run from down there. This is my private residence. -Right. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
I'm assuming you don't want goods removed. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
No, I don't know what goods you ARE going to remove, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
cos there isn't anything here that isn't on HP. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
But before Lawrence can probe for details, Mr Saich simply walks off. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
It's a bizarre turn of events, but Lawrence isn't fazed. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
I'm just going to make a note of some registrations | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
and then we'll go down to where the business is run from, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
because we're more likely to find some assets down there, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
I would think. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
The sheriffs get in the van, and drive back to the farm shop | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
where it looked like Mr Saich was headed. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
As they approach, Kevin thinks he spots movement inside. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
-He's in there. -What, in the shop? -Yeah. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
-Is that where he is, is he? -Yeah. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:37 | |
But any hopes that they may have found Mr Saich soon evaporate. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
No, it's shut. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
The farm shop is locked, and there's no sign of anyone inside. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
There was someone in there, 100%, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
and there's no-one else around, is there? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
No. They might be in an office at the back or something. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Lawrence has a nose around, but there's no other way in, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
and still no sign of Mr Saich. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Their best option now to get the debt paid is to identify some | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
company assets, which on paper should be straightforward. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
They've got fixed assets of 674 grand, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
or they did have in November 15, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
so they've got a hell of a lot of assets. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
The problem is, not many of them seem to be here. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
We've got four-by-fours and things outside the house, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
which he's turned round and said are all on finance, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
but whether they belong to the company or not... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
There's also this tipper... | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
That truck's what we'd need, really. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
..but it's massive. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
-We can't clamp it, can we? -No. Definitely. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
I don't think there is a clamp on the market that will | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
get on the wheel of one of those, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
cos that would have to go on an articulated low loader, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
or possibly be dragged, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
but if you're going to drag it, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
you've got to take all the driveshafts out. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
It's a pig of a job. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
It's too much for now, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
and, importantly, if the debtor's appeal is successful, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
the sheriffs wouldn't be able to recover the costs. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
So, with no assets, and Mr Saich unwilling to cooperate, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
this time the sheriffs will have to call it quits, for now. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
But we'll check out all the vehicle registrations, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and if any of them do come back to the company | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
and they're clear of finance, we can come back and take them. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
So, at the moment, I'm just going to leave paperwork, and that's that. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
Later, the saga continues, when the sheriffs | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
pay Wealden Haulage & Demolition another visit. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
It's 6am in Brixton, south London. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
All right, I'll give out a couple of copies of the writ. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Under the cover of darkness, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
the sheriffs are quietly preparing to carry out an eviction | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
on a group of squatters. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
They've taken over a nearby commercial premises, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
and it's the job of team leader Mark King | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
to take it back for the owner. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
The client has said there is potentially | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
up to 15 people in there. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
We'll give them the opportunity to get their stuff together. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
If they don't, or they mess about or become aggressive or anything, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
they'll just be removed from the property. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
The building is owned by Julien Gressier. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
He works in the fashion industry, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
but, with a background in architecture, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
also has a sideline in small-scale property development. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
For me, it's about doing something that I like doing | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
and trying to make a living, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
while creating homes which are desperately needed, you know, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
in the UK and in London. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
The property in question is a commercial building, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
which, until recently, was used to sell car parts. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
However, shortly after buying it at auction, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Julien was informed that squatters had moved in. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
As the building had been empty for a few months, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
at first he was sympathetic, and went to speak to them. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
They were keen on some sort of deal whereby they stay in the place, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
look after it, and it wouldn't deteriorate any further. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
To some extent, we were probably open to discussion, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
but I think came a point where we fairly quickly realised | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
that they were taking the mickey, if you can use that! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
The squatters are preventing access to the building | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
which Julien needs to progress the works, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
and because he was unable to persuade them to leave, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
he's embarking on the legal process of getting them removed. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
We are paying, every month. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
Business rates are probably about £3,000 a month. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
So, overall... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
we have subsidised the squatters by approximately £20,000. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
Julien has now obtained a writ of possession from the courts, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
which means he can legally evict the squatters. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
It's now down to the sheriffs to finish the job. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
Julien's sure that one way or another, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
he'll get the property back, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
but he's worried about what state it might be in. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
The squatters have now been in the property for nearly a month, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
a month and a half, maybe nearly two months? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
We have been told by neighbours | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
that there are approximately 30 people in there, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
dogs as well, so we don't know how bad it's going to be. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
While the squatters are asleep, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
the sheriffs are getting ready to make their move. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
Team leader Mark King is no stranger to the tricks | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
squatters can employ to keep the authorities out, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
so he's doing a recce with locksmith Andy | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
to find out what they might be up against, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
and it doesn't look good. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
Just had a look, all the shutters around the front and the side | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
are padlocked or locked up. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Don't look like they're being used. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
There are two doors which are both locked, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
but they're barricaded on the inside. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Barricaded doors are bad news for the sheriffs. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
They want to gain access quickly and quietly | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
before the squatters are awake and can cause any trouble. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
So Mark needs to choose which of the doors | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
he thinks will be the easiest for the team to force open. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Just get the door open. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
He opts for one which he thinks the squatters might be using | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
to go in and out themselves, and gives the go-ahead. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Knock it in. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:28 | |
The door is putting up a fight, but persistence pays off. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
And with a bit of elbow grease, the sheriffs manage to prise it open. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
All right. Hold on, hold on. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
What's behind it, though, is going to be much more of a problem. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
That ain't the way they're coming in, then. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
The doorway's thoroughly barricaded. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
The sheriffs throw everything at it they can. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Someone else give it a go. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
But they've lost the element of surprise, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
so Mark might as well appeal to the squatters directly. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Right, listen, fellas. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
We're enforcement officers with a High Court writ. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
We're coming in. You need to start packing up your stuff, yeah? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
What the sheriffs don't want is to give the squatters enough time | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
to create any more obstacles... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
..especially as the heavily-fortified barricade | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
they're already up against isn't showing any signs of budging. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
Keep going at that one. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
Mark can't afford to waste any more time, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
so turns his attention to the shutters instead. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
That doesn't prove to be much easier, but eventually, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
they manage to force a gap just wide enough to squeeze through. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-All right, we're in, we're in. -Go, go, go. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Once inside, they set about waking everyone up and moving them out. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Right, you need to pack your stuff straightaway. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
You've got ten minutes. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
All right, fella, get your stuff packed up. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
You need to leave, yeah? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Half-asleep squatters aren't the easiest to get motivated. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
And it's not only people that need to leave. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
We've got dogs, yeah. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
-Yeah, three upstairs. -All right. OK. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
As the squatters slowly start to get their possessions together, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Mark reviews his tactical entry. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
We chose the wrong door, really, didn't we?! | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
But you can't, you can't tell until you get inside. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
I mean, we would have got through that eventually. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Either way, they're in, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
and it seems like the squatters accept the game's up. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
They were throwing stuff against the door first off, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
but once we were in, they're just packing up, aren't they? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Because they know what's happening. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
The sheriffs' priority now | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
is to try to get the squatters to remove as many of their possessions | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
as possible, preferably quickly. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Well, ideally... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
..we don't want them to be here too long, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
because the longer we're here, the more it's costing the client, but... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
..on the other hand, we want them to take their possessions, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
because if they've got their stuff, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
then they're not going to want to get back in here. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
And this group certainly has a lot of stuff. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
While the squatters' possessions pile up on the pavement outside, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Mark has a look around the premises. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
He's seen worse, but like many squatted properties, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
it's been left in a bit of a state. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
One of their bedrooms, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
which is probably some old office or something. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
Normally, they take their mattresses with them, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
but they've not bothered this time. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
So far, things are all going smoothly enough. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Just when it looks like this eviction | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
might pass without incident, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
the mood starts to change. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Just come and go, get your stuff, if you carry on, listen, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
if you carry on playing up, yeah, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
it's going to affect other people getting their stuff, OK? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Come and get your stuff as you need to, and that's it. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Another of the squatters isn't keen on having their 15 minutes of fame, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
and is obstructing our cameraman. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
-Just leave her alone. -No, I'm in the street, you're not police, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
you do your job, this is a public highway. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Yeah, it's a public highway. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
When the sheriffs step in, tempers flare. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Don't touch me, not in a public place, don't touch me. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I'm not touching anything. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
Not touching anything. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Hey, hey, hey, hey! | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Look, just calm down, fellas. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Do you want to get arrested? -Why? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Do you want to get arrested? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
-We're in the street. -Well then, stop. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
You're going to make things worse for everyone else out here. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
The squatters are becoming more and more agitated. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
The situation is starting to turn ugly. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Watch me! Hey, hey, hey! | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
Try and burn me again with it, and I will chuck it. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
-No. -You don't... You are grabbing me. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
You just tried to burn me with your cigarette. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
Don't grab me. This woman is grabbing me. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
I'm not doing anything. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
No-one else to go back in now. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
No-one goes in now, Rupert. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
What? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Take a step back. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
-What? -Take a step back, take a step back. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
No-one's going back in there cos she's messing about. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
For the sheriffs, enough is enough. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
With some of the squatters getting aggressive, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
the decision is taken not to let any of them back inside. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
So whatever possessions are still in the building will have to be left behind. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
So it's now all the more important the building's well and truly secured, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
so they don't break back in later. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Locksmith Andy's already on the case, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and there is at least one door where the job's been done for him. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Yeah, a bit of barricading from the front. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
So I don't think Andy will do anything with that, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
because it's as good as it's going to be. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
As the new locks go on, the squatters start to disperse. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
But just as it appears that the tensions have been defused, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
one man who was causing trouble earlier comes back for more... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
A MAN SHOUTS | 0:25:06 | 0:25:07 | |
..kicking our cameraman in the shins as a parting shot. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
We don't care. You're not welcome. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
He's just doing his job. Leave him alone. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
That's the last we see of him, though, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
and as the final stragglers head on their way, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
the sheriffs' work is done. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
All the locks have been changed. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
All the padlocks, exterior locks, door locks, everything. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
The property's secure. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:30 | |
Um... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
just got to sign vacant possession to the client, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
and then it's time for breakfast. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
The property is now back in the hands of the owner, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and, a few weeks later, we're catching up with him. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Julien says the damage turned out to be far worse | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
than he had feared. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
You had the alarm system that they ripped out... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
..you had the copper pipes, which were pretty much running all across, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
that they nicked. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
You know, chopped them off, sold for scrap, I guess. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
The worst was actually all the rubbish that we had to get rid of. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
That was probably about £3,000 to get rid of it. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
But with the clear-up complete, the space is now usable once more. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
Julien is relieved to have his project back on track. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
I'm really happy I got the place back. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
It was pretty much two months of delay, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
but it's now behind us. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
I have to thank the sheriffs very much | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
for their...for their help. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
And giving us the space back, really. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Tommy and Craig are at a used-car dealer's in the West Midlands | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
which owes just over £8,500 to Louise Alderson. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
She bought a car from them which was too dangerous to drive. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
The boss of the business claims all the cars on the forecourt | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
today belong to another company. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
But he's not here, and so far has e-mailed through paperwork for just two of them. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
Now Craig's office have rung to say he's sent two more. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
So he's supplied those four. But no others yet. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
So those four are obviously exempt. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Sheriffs are entitled to do a diligent search of | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
a debtor's premises. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
While they wait for the paperwork to trickle in, Craig has a look | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
through the filing cabinet to see if he can speed the process up. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
The first thing he finds is a sales ledger. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
The Renault Megane, right there - £2,560. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Good price... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
for you. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
MAN LAUGHS | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
It's not long before he discovers some more interesting information - | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
logbooks and sales invoices. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
One immediately catches his attention. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
This document here says "purchased from the third-party company", | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
and this is for a Subaru that's outside, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
but it's only an '02 plate, and we're after 8,000 quid. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
There's some of these other vehicles as well. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
The document shows that one of the cars outside was bought FROM | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
the very company the sheriffs were told owns everything here. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
Something isn't stacking up. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
Before long, Craig's identified a number of other vehicles too, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
and the sheriffs step outside the cabin to confer in private. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
-We've got an '09 Renault Clio. These are all here. -Mm-hm. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
The logbooks are in there and the keys are in there as well, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
so the game might be up soon. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Seize this paperwork, then, yeah? They ain't having it back. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Craig reckons if these vehicles don't belong to the other company, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
and they're up for sale in the debtor's yard, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
then they must belong to the debtor. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Confident they're onto a winner, Tommy takes all the keys and | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
documents he can from the cabin and locks them in his van. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Craig calls up the director and gets straight to the point. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
My office have instructed me to let you know that, obviously, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
if this balance isn't paid, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
then we're instructed to remove these vehicles. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
The director still claims the vehicles belong to someone else. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Sir, I'm not here to argue. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
If you can't provide evidence - | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
further evidence, because we've got the evidence here - | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
these vehicles will be removed today. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Unless, of course, he's willing to pay. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
OK, so the choice is yours. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
The balance stands at £8,627.07. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
I need an answer from you, and if you want to pay this bill or not. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
That'll be a no, then, yeah? Right. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
It looks like this is about to become a removal job, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
and just as they start making the calls, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
a third man arrives in the office. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
-Hello, my friend. -I don't want no camera in here. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
You've got to get out. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
-No, no, no. -We're here for the, erm... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
I don't want no camera in my face, mate, so get out, please. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
Yeah, yeah... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
Although it's not clear who he is, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
one thing that is certain is he's not pleased to see us. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
He tells the cameraman to leave, but then follows him to the road | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
and unleashes an extraordinary tirade of abuse. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
-White -BLEEP. -Listen, yeah? You dirty -BLEEP. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
-You film me, I'll smack your head all over the floor, you white -BLEEP. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
BLEEP! | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Have that for the BBC. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
-BLEEP -dirty -BLEEP. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
Film me? You know what? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
-Dirty -BLEEP! | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
Pleased with himself, he heads back to the hut | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
and, shortly afterwards, drives off... | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Out my way, mate! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
..but not without once again making known his feelings | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
towards the camera. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Don't film me, mate. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:36 | |
And he's not done yet - | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
ten minutes later, the same man is back, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
this time with a friend in tow, and armed... | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
with eggs. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
All right, all right... Lads... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
-MEN LAUGH -That man got egged! | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
The men run off, still hurling abuse. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
Yeah, you're on camera, mate! | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
MAN YELLS INDISTINCTLY | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
As they leave, one throws a rock. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
-Come on, then, you -BLEEP! | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
What connection, if any, they have to the dealership is unclear, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
and the salesman left behind takes a very different approach. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
Are you OK? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
Tommy, meanwhile, is unfazed. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
We've just been attacked with eggs, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
and they're trying to film it and stuff, so just... | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
They look like young lads being idiots, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
but we're going to get the police here now, cos assault's happened. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
It's a bit unfortunate, but part of the job. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
The cameraman's coat's come off worse for wear, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
but luckily no-one's hurt... | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
More of it's on your head, mate. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
..and the men have vanished by the time the police arrive. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Are you all right? It's just that they've ran off. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
-They jumped our cameraman, basically... -OK. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
..smashed eggs on him, started throwing rocks at him. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
-A rock just skimmed his head. -OK. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:51 | |
-And we got you... Obviously, we called you guys. -All right. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
After speaking to our cameraman, the police head into the cabin. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
They're just going to make a bit of an investigation. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
There was threats made of...that they were going to petrol-bomb us, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
and that they were going to come back, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
so obviously we have to take these things seriously, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
especially the fact they were throwing rocks. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Craig, meanwhile, has made some progress - | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
a friend of the director arrived during the disturbance on the road. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
He's now leaving, but it seems he wants to get the debt paid. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Luckily for us, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
a friend arrived and managed to talk round the situation to him, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
and it's more cost-effective to pay it now and challenge it later, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
which is exactly what he's going to try and do, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
so, as we speak now, the money's on its way. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
We'll be about another half an hour, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
so we're just getting the receipt ready, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
so, as soon as it turns up, we can count it and be on our way. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Satisfied the situation has calmed down, the police leave, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
and soon word comes through that the money is ready for collection. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
One of the salesmen goes to pick it up. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
When he returns 45 minutes later, the sheriffs are expectant. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
Oh, look, he's got an envelope. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
-Have we got it? Yeah? -There we go. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Have you got the money? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-No money? -No. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
-No money at all? -No, man. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
-Well, where did you go? -TOMMY LAUGHS | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
The man has returned empty-handed. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
That's wasting our time, now - it's as simple as that. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
He said he was going to get the money. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Quite what has caused the apparent change of heart isn't clear, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
but Craig no longer cares, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
and once again gets the director on the phone. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Your man's come back without the money, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
so my office has just told us to start removing the vehicles now. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
There's six vehicles to have away. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
No problem, then, sir. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Done now? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
"Do so as you wish," he said, so that's fine by me. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
All right, then, Tommy-boy, let's get these cars done now, shall we? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Later, the job goes right up to the wire, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
as the company makes more promises of payment. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Here we go. He's back. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
Is it...? Have you got the cash now, then? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
Let's have a look at it. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
Lawrence and Kev are back on the trail of a debt | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
owed by a company called Wealden Haulage & Demolition Ltd. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
They previously visited the company's registered address, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
-which was on a farm. -This is the right place, isn't it? | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
But the director, Markus Saich, was far from helpful. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
And the only real asset there wasn't going anywhere in a hurry. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
That would have to go on an articulated low loader. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Or possibly be dragged. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
Other vehicles seen at the site have now been confirmed as being | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
on finance, and further contact with Mr Saich hasn't come to much. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
The director did contact me, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
saying that there was an order from the court stopping enforcement. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
But despite repeated requests, he hasn't provided that. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
So as far as we're concerned, this writ is still live. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
So far, they've had the doors shut in their face at every turn. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
But the sheriffs don't give up easily, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
and now they've got a new lead - | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
a tip-off of a site where Wealden might be operating. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
So they're going there in the hope of collecting the £19,000 now owing. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
On arrival, it appears to be | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
some kind of aggregate processing facility. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
There aren't any signs mentioning the debtor company, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
but Lawrence spots a man working on the site and tries his luck. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
Morning. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
Looking for Wealden Haulage & Demolition. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
That's you. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Wealden Haulage & Demolition. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
We're ordered here today to take control of goods, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
which by the looks of it is the excavator and the crusher. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
Are you able to get him on the phone? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
The man said it's the right place | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
and the machines they expected to see are here. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
So far, so good. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Until Lawrence is handed the phone. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
Good morning, sir. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
Was it you I met at the other address, at your house? | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
It is indeed the company director, Markus Saich. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
We've been sent to this address today, sir, to take control | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
of goods, which at the moment is the excavators and the crusher. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Once again, Lawrence is told everything is on finance. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
Have you got paperwork to that effect? | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Are you able to get that to us? | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
You're not. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
Mr Saich says if Lawrence wants the paperwork, he can come and get it. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
Right, well, I'm not coming there, sir, because I'm here, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
and I'm going to be taking these goods into control. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
I can't take them into control at your other premises, can I? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
But not only is Mr Saich refusing to bring the documents | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
the sheriffs need to see, he's now once again claiming that | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
enforcement action has been stopped by the court. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Lawrence is sceptical. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
You told me weeks ago, sir, there was | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
an order from the court stopping execution. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
I've asked you repeatedly for that and you haven't provided it. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
It hasn't been stopped until you find out what's going on. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
I have a live writ. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
OK, then, sir, call the police. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
It would be far more helpful if you have... Oh, there you go. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Actually, it would be a good thing if the police turn up now. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
That might prompt him to get down here, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
and that would be better for us. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
It's one of the ways in which we can progress this one at the moment. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Otherwise, Mr Saich's reluctance to cooperate is once again | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
leaving the sheriffs in a tricky position. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
If the machinery really doesn't belong to Wealden Haulage | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
& Demolition Ltd, then removing it would be a very expensive mistake. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
But it doesn't sound like the director's going to help them | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
put the ownership beyond doubt. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
The director of the company doesn't really want to speak to us. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Whenever you get a job where you can't establish some | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
kind of sensible dialogue, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
it's really awkward to get any kind of resolution, one way or the other. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
If the vehicles are leased from somebody, just give us | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
the paperwork and we can go away! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
As it is, the sheriffs will have to work it out for themselves, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
so they head inside the yard for a closer look. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
But as they do, the worker present asks our camera to leave | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
and shuts the gates behind him. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Seeing the chain go on, Lawrence gives the man a warning. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
I know that obviously your boss is telling you to do things, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
but I just have to advise you, from your point of view, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
it is a criminal offence to obstruct us, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
so I'm just advising you on a personal level, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
because if you do anything... I wouldn't want you doing anything | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
that puts you personally in jeopardy | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
because you're following your boss's instructions. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
The employee goes back to work while the sheriffs have a nose around. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
However, their exploration of the site reveals | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
nothing besides the huge amounts of concrete, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and no further clues to the ownership of the machines. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
There's a building next to the yard with another company's name | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
over the door, so Kev heads in to ask what, if anything, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
they can tell the sheriffs about the crusher and the diggers. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
He soon returns with news. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
-That crusher's financed and it's owned by this lot. -Yeah. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
He got his boss on the phone and he was like, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
"Yeah, no, no, it's definitely ours." | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-And they've got no reason to... -No. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Meanwhile, Lawrence has made a discovery of his own - | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
one of the two diggers has broken down on top of a pile of aggregate. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
They began the day hoping to walk out of here with nearly £20,000, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
but that now looks like a tall order. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
# Don't know where we're going, got no way of knowing | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
# Driving on the road to nowhere. # | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
because the one digger is immobile with a knackered engine, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
the crusher we've already confirmed belongs to somebody else | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
and the digger's in use, and we can't take | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
something into control if it's actually in use at the time. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
And he's still adamant it's leased from somebody. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
More than two hours after they arrived, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
and with no sign of the police, Lawrence eventually gets | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
a call from the debtor's solicitor, who's only just been instructed. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
They say they'll need a few days to collect the relevant paperwork. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Frustrated, but with no leverage to demand payment, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
Lawrence has no choice but to agree. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
If you're actually going to cooperate, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
which I imagine you will, and deal with this in a sensible manner | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
rather than just being obstructive like your client, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
I'll give you till close of business on Monday to get | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
the paperwork over, and then I'm quite happy to leave it. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Otherwise I will be back and I will remove it. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
But the sheriffs never need to return. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Following filming, Wealden Haulage & Demolition Ltd paid | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
just over £19,000, clearing their debt in full. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
The people who hadn't been paid have now got the money they were owed. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Back in the West Midlands, Tommy and Craig are still at the car dealer's. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
They've been there for four hours hoping to collect more than | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
£8,500 on behalf of a customer, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Louise Alderson, who was sold a dangerous second-hand car. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
It's been a very tense day. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
We've been pelted with eggs... | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
MEN LAUGH | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
..and rocks... | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
..by two young men whose connection to the garage is unclear. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Don't film me, mate! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Meanwhile, the boss finally agreed to pay, before his courier | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
turned up without the cash. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
-No money. -No. -No money at all? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
So, the money hasn't arrived. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
I spoke to my office, they're organising the transport now | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
and then we'll take it from there. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Tommy parks the van in the entrance to prevent anyone from trying to | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
shut the gates. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
It's going to go to removal, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
so we're looking to get the six cars gone. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
The prospect of vehicles being imminently removed is definitely | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
-making the company's attempts to raise the cash more urgent. -Hello? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
The problem is, now that six low loaders are on the way, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
they'll have to pay for those, too. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
-250 plus the VAT times six. -Six... | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
-1,800 quid, isn't it? -Yeah. Just gone up 1,800 quid. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-How long has he got before... -Done. The truck's on the way. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
It's kind of too late, isn't it, now? | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
You had the chance over an hour ago. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
What can you do? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
They don't want to pay the extra fees, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
and in an effort to get the removal called off, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
again promise that someone's on the way with cash. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
He's going to be back in 15 minutes maximum. Cancel it, yes? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
-I can't cancel it. -No, no... You have to. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
I can't. How long have we been here? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
-I know, I know, I know, I understand that. -I ain't cancelling it. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
I'm not cancelling it at all. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Craig is no longer interested in promises, only payment. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
As far as he's concerned, it's just a case of waiting to see | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
which turns up first, the removal trucks or the money. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Here we go, he's back. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
It's the staff member who was sent for the money the last time, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
but came back empty-handed. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
What's going to happen now? | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
Is it... Have you got the cash there now? How much have you got? | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
-Got £8,927. -Let's have a look at it. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
He says he's come back with £300 more than the sheriffs asked for | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
at the beginning of the day. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
But that's now not enough, because of the extra fees. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
Craig calls his office. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
Lawrence, there's a whole bundle of cash here now, which is 8,900 quid. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:35 | |
How much do we need to call this all to a halt? | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
According to Lawrence, so far only one removal truck has | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
actually set off, so they'll settle for just one cancellation fee. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
Yeah, cheers, mate. Ta-ra, goodbye. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:48 | |
Which means, provided the cash adds up, this job might finally be over. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
44 twenties... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13... | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
All looking good so far. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
The gentleman has paid, at the moment, £8,900. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
And with the contents of the salesman's pocket... | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
-I've got 70 as well. -Thank you, my friend. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
..they've come up with enough to satisfy the writ and the sheriffs. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
It's taken all day, but with the job finally in the bag, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
the sheriffs are all smiles. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
So, a massive ordeal for us today, bit of drama with the police, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
but finally we won the battle. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
It ended up being exactly what we wanted in the end. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
The debtor company later appealed the judgment against them, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
but a judge rejected their case | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
and Louise was finally given back her money. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
If the sheriffs were here now, I'd give them all a big hug and a | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
kiss because they've done an amazing job. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
I never thought anyone would be able to get the money, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
it's just fantastic news. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
And it didn't end there. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
Trading Standards subsequently prosecuted the business for | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
misdescribing the Fiesta in their advert and for selling Louise | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
a dangerous and unroadworthy vehicle. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
They were fined a total of £7,500. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
For Louise, it's the end of a long ordeal. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:15 | |
Now it's over, yeah, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
maybe I can start to relax and look forward to | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
one day buying a new car when I feel more confident about doing so. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:24 | |
When debtors can't pay on the spot... | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
I'm assuming that you haven't got £5,000. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
..the sheriffs won't always remove assets to get your money. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
Goods go for about a fifth of their true value at auction, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
and it's often better to agree to a payment plan. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
If you can come up with half of it today... | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
Do you reckon you can do 200 a week? | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
They'll make a list of assets... | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
They've got an ice machine, bar-chilling cabinets... | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
Television, PlayStation... | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
..and a controlled goods agreement is signed, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
making it an offence for anyone else to remove them... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
When you sign the form, it acts as security. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
..and the sheriffs will only return to take the goods if the debtor | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
fails to make payments. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
I've signed him up for £1,000 a month. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Providing you stick to that, you won't hear from us again. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
The sheriffs' cases come in all shapes and sizes. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
Debts start at £600, but can reach well into the millions. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
The debtors can be anything from one man and his dog | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
to giant corporations. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
For enforcement agent Ken Warby, his first job of the day | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
is against one of the big boys, a household name. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
This morning, we are off to a company called Procter & Gamble - | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
huge company, soaps and toothpastes and suchlike. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
To be specific, Ken's writ is for a division of the corporation | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
called Procter & Gamble Product Supply UK Limited, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
which owes a man £3,108 in legal costs. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
I think this is an office premises we're going to visit, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
so there should be some assets there. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
I would imagine, a company of this size, | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
they will have a head office that would do any payments, | 0:47:17 | 0:47:22 | |
so I wouldn't imagine the payment would probably come from here. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
But as Ken approaches his destination, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
it becomes clear it's not what he was expecting. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
"P&G London". | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
I think we're going in the right direction. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
Instead of a small office with a car park, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
his sat nav has led him to a sprawling industrial site. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
Look at the size of these buildings! Look at the size of them! | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
They all seem to be Procter & Gamble, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
and Ken's got no idea where he's going. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
There's no signs up or anything. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
Where would the office be? | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
It's got to be around here somewhere. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I... I can smell soap. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Eventually, he's directed to a car park outside a chemical plant. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
It looks like Cape Canaveral. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
What kind of assets he could possibly remove from | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
a place like this isn't clear. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Still, he tracks down reception and heads in. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
But before he can utter a word... | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Erm... No, sir. Can you turn that off? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
..our cameraman's asked to leave. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
Inside, Ken begins the task of retrieving the claimant's money. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
He knows all too well that turning up unannounced at the doors | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
of huge companies often causes confusion. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
Half the battle is usually finding someone on site who knows | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
about the debt or has the authorisation to make a payment. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
This time, Ken gets lucky, and the reception staff manage to | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
track someone down who knows about the case - | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
even better, they agree to pay it. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
So far, so good - | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
only, it turns out not to be that simple. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Two hours after walking in, Ken comes back out empty-handed. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
They've tried to make the payment by American Express. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
Unfortunately, we don't take American Express, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
and they are the only cards that they've got on the premises. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
So we've had to wait around for the office to contact their head office, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:16 | |
that isn't here, to make a bank transfer or an alternative card. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
Hopefully they'll do it. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
Ken's hardly worried about the company's ability to pay. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
Although the name on his writ is for one of its UK subsidiaries, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
Procter & Gamble is an American multinational giant, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
with a turnover running into many billions of pounds. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
But, after being here two hours, Ken would rather not have to wait | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
much longer for payment, and he doesn't have to. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
The head office have been able to access another card, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
not an Amex card, and the payment's gone through. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
It all went smoothly, really. I didn't have to raise my voice. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
They knew from the off that they owed the money. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
And that means Ken never had to seriously consider removing | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
assets from the chemical plant, although he did threaten it. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
I told them my intentions were to list items and have them removed. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
It's not going to happen for a small debt | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
for a company of this size. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
If it was, it would end up a right soap story. Excuse the pun. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Enforcement agent Tommy Coyle is in the East Midlands | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
with a potentially tough away fixture on his hands. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
We're on our way to Corby today. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
We're visiting Corby Town Football Club. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
I think they're quite a small club. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
There's previously been an agent visit the property. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
I spoke to a Steve, who's the chairman, who promised payment. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
The payments have not been forthcoming. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
Corby Town FC has been taken to court for unpaid invoices | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
by a company which has done groundwork on the pitch. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
The club didn't defend the case and judgment was issued by default. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:57 | |
It owes... | 0:50:57 | 0:50:58 | |
Tommy's not much of a football fan but today he's hoping to | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
kick off a successful enforcement for his client. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Hopefully they'll have some assets there. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
Could be a small bar, could be some minivans. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
Could be some trophies, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:15 | |
but I don't know how many trophies Corby Town have won recently. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
Thankfully, it's not match day. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
"Welcome to Corby Town FC". | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
Although Tommy has no trouble getting into the grounds, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
finding anyone to talk to might be another matter. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
But he soon navigates his way into some kind of clubhouse, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
where a team talk appears to be underway. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
HE KNOCKS | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
-Hiya, you all right? -Is the chairman about? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Could you give him a call for me? It's quite urgent. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:49 | |
Tommy's stumbled on the club's youth academy, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
and the man in charge offers to get the chairman on the phone. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
Is it? | 0:51:58 | 0:51:59 | |
-I don't know what else I can do. -Is there anyone else you can call? | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
Cos the problem I have, I'm literally here, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
I'm going to start listing assets down straight away. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
Once I've listed everything down, I literally could be getting | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
contractors here and start removing stuff. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
News that an enforcement agent is planning to remove | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
the contents of the clubhouse soon gets through to the right person. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
-You all right? -Chairman on the phone. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
-Is this Steve, is it? -Steve, yeah. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:26 | |
But club chairman Steve Noble hasn't called up to make a payment, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
he instead has a different take on events. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
What you're saying is he's willing to pay all the cost... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
He's talking about a deal he's come to with the claimant. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
I appreciate what you're saying, but unless I'm instructed | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
by a court, I have to carry on in my actions today. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
All right, speak to you in a bit. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Chairman seems to think that he's come to an agreement with | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
the claimant, the claimant was going to pay our cost directly to us | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
and then they were going to come to an agreement between theirselves. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
I've got no notes of that. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
And a quick call to Tommy's office suggests that | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
while the claimant may be willing to accept a payment schedule, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
he wants any such deal to be arranged through the sheriffs. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
Oh, right, OK, so it's not what he said, then. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
In the meantime, Tommy's search for assets continues. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
In the bar, there's some alcohol. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Limited wet stock. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
And a modest collection of silverware. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
Three cups up there. One large one there. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
So I'll make a note of them. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
Though the first aid room turns out to be of more interest. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
Oh, here we go. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
Resuscitating machine, electronic one. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
You just put the paddles on, start her up, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
and it saves your life, basically. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
They're really good bits of kit. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
Tommy knows how to use one from his days in the Marines. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
I was FA2 trained. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
So I could do a bit of first aid, | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
stop you bleeding out if you got shot. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
Hopefully, that won't be necessary today. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
Tommy takes the kit to the van and tries to reach the chairman again | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
to see if he's going to come up with the money. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
Hello, Mr Noble, it's the enforcement agent. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
But it's not the news he wanted. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
The chairman still wants to come to an arrangement, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
but without putting any money upfront. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
Without making that payment now, we're not going to be able to | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
facilitate anything other than removing what we can. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
We won't just come, leave a letter and then not return. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
I'm sent back to enforce it | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
and I won't leave here today without payment or taking stuff with me. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:39 | |
If you're telling me it's impossible to make any kind of payment today, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
then, kind of, our conversation's going to come to an end, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
cos I'm just going to have to carry on what I'm going to do here. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
It looks like removal is Tommy's only option, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
and he takes his search for assets pitch-side. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
Two goalposts. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
Which, believe it or not, could be removed, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
although they're not as useful as what's in the outbuildings. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
Ah, that's the one. Exactly what I'm looking for. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
Something with a bit of monetary value. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
I'll have the keys as well. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
But before he can get too carried away, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
he's interrupted by a groundsman. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
Ain't they? | 0:55:22 | 0:55:23 | |
Whose are they? | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
They're yours? | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
Have you got any evidence of that? Who are you? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
In terms of assets, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
the football club isn't proving to be rich pickings. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
Tommy's running out of places to look | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
and thoughts wander to Sheriffs FC. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
I'll be a forward, Kev on the wing. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
We'll have Wild in defence with Ken, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
Alan in goal. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
Grixy will be our manager. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:53 | |
Tommy returns to the van to start organising the removal, | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
but is interrupted by another phone call. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
Let's just get this right, then - | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
you hold the lease for the grounds here. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
And the building, yeah. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
There's been a late substitution and a new player is on the pitch. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
It's the landlord, who's got wind that the club's goalposts, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
among other things, might be about to be removed. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
It sounds like he could be willing to make a payment. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
OK, sir. All right, speak to you in a bit. Bye. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
He's willing to pay on their behalf the 3,000, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
and he'll have it paid by midday tomorrow. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
With limited assets here and other multiple claims | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
over their ownership, it's a deal Tommy's prepared to agree to. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
The landlord soon arrives at the club, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
where he meets with Tommy off camera. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
A controlled goods agreement is signed for the assets | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
listed down and Tommy leaves satisfied. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
With the complexities we had then | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
and the amount of third-party claims, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
and with the property being leased by somebody else, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
I think it's a good result, getting the CGA, £1,500 per month, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
with the £3,000 paid tomorrow. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
The £3,000 arrived as promised and the company which did | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
the work on the pitch has started to receive its money. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 |