Episode 2 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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-Meet the sheriffs.

-My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I

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-are enforcement agents.

-It's to do with a High Court order.

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They work for the High Court, and if it says you're owed money,

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it's their job to go and get it.

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I'm here for £6,072.18.

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They can demand payment on the spot...

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I'm here for the full balance.

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-How are you going to pay it?

-..or remove assets instead.

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The car will be going unless you can pay it.

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You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence.

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I wouldn't do that if I were you.

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The door needs to stay open.

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Every year in England and Wales,

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unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million

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are recovered by the sheriffs.

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Coming up, a locksmith's done a botched job on Pete Mullany's door.

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The mechanism was the wrong one.

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The whole frame and everything was damaged.

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It was a bit of a disaster.

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The boss of the company responsible doesn't want to cooperate.

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But can Ken change his mind?

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That's what I like to see, plenty of stock in the shop.

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The Sheriffs take on a group of squatters in the heart

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of central London.

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SHOUTING Devil worship! Devil worship!

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In 30 minutes' time, you are going to be leaving this property.

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A steel company owes money to a former employee.

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When Dean didn't pay the final wage, I found it more than unfair.

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So Tommy and Craig go looking for the boss.

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Is it him?

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And Lawrence puts the squeeze on a finance company

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which hasn't paid its rent.

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You had a turnover... Last time you submitted books of 1.8 million.

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So I can't believe that you can't come up with £16,000.

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This morning, enforcement agent Ken Warby

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is in his usual North London patch.

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He's heading to a shop in Barnet, in pursuit of an unpaid debt.

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On the face of it, it looks like a run-of-the-mill job,

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but he's about to be reminded

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that it takes some people longer than others

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to come to terms with the realities of High Court enforcement.

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We are going to visit a company called All Service For You.

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I believe they're a security company.

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To be precise, All Service For You Ltd

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is a locksmiths,

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and their debt of more than £2,000 all began

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with a surprisingly simple problem -

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a broken lock on the front door

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of Pete Mullany's family home in Stockport.

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The locks had probably been in there 20 years,

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and they just needed replacing.

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Pete and his wife called around locksmiths for quotes,

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before settling on All Service For You,

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thinking it was a local company.

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It wasn't until we found out a little bit further on in the process

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that the company was based in London,

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and they'd outsourced it to local contractors to pick up the deal.

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So it wasn't kind of what we were hoping for.

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And when a workman came to fix the lock,

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it didn't exactly go as planned.

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It's a composite door with its own unique locking mechanism,

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and the mechanism that he put in was the wrong one,

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so as a result, there was loads of holes everywhere,

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which had been filled in with Polyfilla.

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The door was slightly damaged, as well,

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and at the bottom, didn't shut properly.

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You could actually see the light coming through,

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the wind blowing through into the hallway.

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So all told, it was a bit of a disaster.

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When the Mullanys tried to complain,

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calls and messages went unanswered, and in the end, they just gave up,

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until several months later, when events spurred Pete into action.

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I went to slam the door and the actual splinter

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started to come away,

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and that's when I realised that this job wasn't good enough.

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I checked the original invoice that we got for the locks.

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They'd put one-year warranty, so I thought I was within that one year,

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so still within my rights to do something about it.

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So I contacted them, sent all the pictures again,

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and as usual, they never got back.

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Pete decided he wasn't going to take it lying down,

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and following guidance given him by Citizens' Advice,

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got a second opinion.

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I contacted a local master locksmith.

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It was him who pointed out

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that the whole doorframe and everything was damaged,

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and suddenly, it ramped up from just replacing the locks

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to actually the whole door and the whole frame.

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Pete made a claim against All Service For You Ltd

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through the County Courts,

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and when they didn't offer a defence, he won a default judgment.

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But weeks down the line, there's still no sign of his money.

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I've still not received any correspondence from the defendant

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as to whether he's paying this money,

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so I'm getting pretty desperate and I'm just thinking,

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"What do I need to do?"

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More than anything, we need to get that door sorted.

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Three daughters in the house,

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my constant fear is that someone could break that door down.

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This has been a mega process,

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and it just feels like if it falls at the last step,

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I'll be absolutely devastated.

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In Barnet, Ken's on his way to the shop

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where All Service For You are thought to trade.

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Since Pete enlisted the sheriffs' help to get his money back,

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there have been further legal developments, but Ken is undeterred.

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I know that there was an application...

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..to get the judgment set aside,

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which has recently been thrown out of court,

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so we are good to go on it.

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As he reaches the address,

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it seems the name of the shop doesn't quite match

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the name on his writ.

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37, All Time Security...

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But it's probably just a trading name for the same business,

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and Ken likes what he sees.

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Walk straight in the shop front, that should be easy enough.

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Time for Ken to discover whether the company's planning

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-to finally pay up for Pete's door.

-Hello.

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My name is Mr Warby.

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This is regarding a judgment from an individual called Mr Pete Mullany.

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I think you know about it,

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because I think you tried to get the judgment set aside.

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OK. And what was the outcome?

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The sheriffs are used to arguing with people

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who think their cases are still ongoing,

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but as this man's appeal was rejected yesterday,

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he should know exactly where he stands.

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-Yes.

-So far, so good.

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Or maybe not.

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The situation's this...

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These now have a High Court judgment against you,

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so I'm here for the full balance.

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After costs, it's now £2,311, that's what I'm here for.

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The man now says he's willing to pay the original judgment debt,

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without costs and fees,

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but the time to pay this lower figure has long gone.

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The amount with Sheriffs' fees currently stands at £2,311.50.

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Yeah...

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At this point, our camera is asked to leave.

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Inside, Ken attempts to explain to the manager

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that he needs to find more than two grand pretty quickly,

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or else goods will be removed from the shop.

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But the man doesn't like what he's hearing and closes the shutters,

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trapping Ken inside.

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Ken follows protocol and calls the police.

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For 25 minutes, the discussion continues behind closed doors,

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until eventually, the shutters reopen.

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The boss thinks he's found a loophole in Ken's paperwork

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and wants to show us.

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The address on the writ is the company's registered office,

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not here, where they are trading from.

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Thinking he's onto a winner, the boss lets us back in.

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But he's barking up the wrong tree.

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Sheriffs can attend anywhere the debtor resides

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or carries out a trade or business.

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Yeah, we're instructed by the client to attend here,

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so that is an extension for the writ.

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To be here.

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The manager seems to think it's unreasonable for the claimant

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to want the money he's legally owed.

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Ken decides the easiest thing is to just wait for backup.

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I want it done amicably, OK? I want the police here,

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just so they can let you know, because you won't take it from me,

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that we are within our rights to be here,

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and that we can remove goods from here.

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Maybe you'll have it from the police officer,

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and if he then can't convince you,

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I'll call up the van and we'll remove goods.

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Later, as he starts listing goods for potential removal...

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I can go wherever I want, mate.

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..Ken gets locked in again.

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Using the County Courts to try to recover money you're owed

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isn't difficult. 1.5 million money claims

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are made every year in England and Wales,

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involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship

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to unpaid invoices.

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Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee.

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Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence,

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and you may have to attend a court hearing.

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If you're successful,

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a County Court Judgment or CCJ will be issued against the debtor.

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And if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs.

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While most of their workload involves unpaid debts,

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High Court enforcement agents can also act in cases of unlawful

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occupation of land or property, commonly known as squatting.

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And early this morning, the sheriffs are gathering

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in a car park in Camden in central London to enforce one of these jobs.

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It's got a double gate roughly there. Yeah, a single gate there.

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The double gate is where we are going to go in.

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Under the guidance of team leader Mark King, they are here to

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evict a group of squatters who've set up camp

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on a nearby plot of land.

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I'm not sure what it was originally,

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maybe a garden centre or something like that.

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I believe the people were allowed in to stay there, first off,

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but for whatever reason, the client now wants the land back.

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The squatters are thought to have been there for at least two years.

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The owner of the land has been unable to persuade them

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to leave peacefully and so now has obtained a writ of possession

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authorising the sheriffs to get the site back for him.

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We're looking at about 30, possibly 40 people in there.

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Not sure until we get there, to be honest.

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Could be that they have all gone. We will see when we get round there.

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Are you by gate three?

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Everybody ready, yeah?

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-And once they are all in position...

-Are we all set?

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-..it is time to go in.

-Yeah, let's go. All right.

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But before they rouse the occupants,

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they want to be sure they've got the whole ground covered.

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The tents are going to be over down the side there.

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So you go and sort it out, give us a shout once you're round there.

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Once the site is secure,

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they issue the wake-up call that is every squatter's worst nightmare.

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-High Court writ enforcement!

-High Court writ enforcement!

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-Time to wake up.

-High Court enforcement.

-Good morning, mate.

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-High Court writ enforcement!

-Are you all right?

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You need to pack your stuff up, you need to vacate, OK?

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Quick as you can, please. Thank you.

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The dazed occupants have been caught off-guard.

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Pack your stuff up as quick as you can.

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And at first glance, it doesn't look like they are

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planning to cause any trouble.

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But the sheriffs aren't going to be letting their guard down

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until they know exactly what they are dealing with.

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-How many have we got, do you think?

-I don't know yet.

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They are all over the place.

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Enforcement!

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Up in the attic on this bit.

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The site is littered with makeshift structures,

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so it is hard to know where people might be,

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and the last thing the sheriffs want is any surprises.

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Open the door, mate.

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-I'm packing up, brother.

-All right, OK.

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-If you can just leave the door open.

-Yeah.

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Yeah? This fella here is going to stay with you.

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Just make sure that you are getting on with it, yeah?

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-How long do we have, brother?

-Going to give you about an hour. OK?

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All right? Thank you.

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At first, it seems the squatters are cooperative, if a little eccentric.

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They are quite happy, most of them.

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They are sort of free spirits, aren't they, I suppose?

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I suppose that's what you would call them.

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But Mark might have spoken too soon,

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as one occupant seems to be dragging his heels.

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Have you got all your stuff?

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I've got it here somewhere, but I'm not very happy about this.

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Oh, I'm sorry that I've upset you, but get on with it.

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-Have you got a family at home?

-Yeah.

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-Yeah?

-They are all in bed at the moment.

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-They are safe.

-Yeah, just get on with it, mate.

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I said I will pack it up already,

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and I'm going to pick it up and leave.

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Rather than standing around and arguing, can you actually...?

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I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you friendly.

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If you carry on, you will be removed from the site.

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No-one was expecting the squatters to be pleased, but the sheriffs

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need to be on the lookout for tempers running out of control.

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There's an element of wounded pride,

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so, you know, you can almost expect them to...

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..push back a little bit, but just how far?

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One man who has been living in a tent in the yard

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is refusing to pack his things.

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I know that this documentation is unlawful.

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I've studied law for three decades and I, unfortunately,

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know the entire legal system of your country

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is now in such gross fraud that we've stood away from it.

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Take a breath, take a breath.

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It's a High Court writ, OK? Stamped by the court.

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You want to exile me from the land that I've built for the last

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-three years, which we found abandoned...

-It's not your land.

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-It doesn't belong to you.

-It's God's.

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But a philosophical debate isn't on the sheriff's agenda.

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At 5.50,

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that's in 30 minutes' time, OK,

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you are going to be leaving this property.

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If you want to take your things with you, you need to start packing up.

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-You've got 30 minutes.

-How do I live?

-You've got 30 minutes.

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The sheriffs can use reasonable force if necessary,

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but it is a situation they would rather avoid,

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so Mark is hoping his ultimatum will have the desired effect.

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I've explained to him what he needs to do.

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He's not really listening,

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so I've given him 30 minutes to start to pack up.

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If he's starting to pack up within those 30 minutes, fine.

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We will see at 5.50 what happens.

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Later, can the sheriffs persuade the man to leave peacefully?

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The projected image that this man is sending to me

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is absolutely despicable. You know I read minds, don't you?

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And I read yours and it is not pleasant. Please take it away.

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Enforcement agents Craig Wilde and Tommy Coyle are in the van

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and on the motorway before the sun is up.

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They've got a High Court writ for more than £12,000 against

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a member of the public and they are on their way to his home address.

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It's early in the morning. Going to see Mr Jason Holdsworth.

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It is in relation to a boat that Mr Holdsworth sold on eBay,

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which wasn't apparently fit for purpose.

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Mr Holdsworth sold the boat to Valerie Hull.

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She and her partner had their hearts set on owning a boat,

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and after months of deliberation, they decided to take the plunge.

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We had retired, it seemed a good idea to be able to go to

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the marina and have some leisure time on this boat.

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I'm not certain we will ever go out to sea on it,

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but it just was a nice way of relaxing

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and enjoying our retirement.

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When they found what they thought was a good deal online

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for a Crownline 250 CR, they leapt at the opportunity.

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The pictures of it were beautiful. It was in excellent condition.

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Couldn't see any fault with it.

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And at £10,000, it seemed like a really good buy.

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The seller was Jason Holdsworth and he invited them

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-to his house to talk it over.

-It was a very amenable chat.

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He was lively, polite, welcomed us into his home.

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But there was one problem - Mr Holdsworth said

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he needed a quick sale.

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He said that where it was moored, which was Cardiff Yacht Club,

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he was having to pay £150 a week for it to stay there.

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It was too far away to go and see it at short notice,

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so fearful of losing out,

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Valerie and her partner agreed a blind purchase.

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And the arrangement was the next day, just after nine o'clock,

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I would put the money into his bank account by bank transfer,

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and he would pay for having it delivered to Tewkesbury.

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But no sooner had Valerie stumped up the cash,

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Mr Holdsworth called to change the arrangement.

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An hour later, I got a phone call from Mr Holdsworth saying

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we couldn't have the boat Thursday, now it would be the following week.

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And we were a little bit perplexed because we thought in that

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time limit, we could have actually gone to Cardiff and looked at it.

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But we didn't see the point.

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I had already put the money in his bank account, so we just left it.

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The boat was delivered the following week,

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but Valerie was in for a shock. First, there was the delivery.

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The company that had towed it there

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asked for the fee for taking it and we said that was a part of the deal.

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It was a free tow. He went, "No, he hasn't paid us."

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And then there was the boat itself.

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It's damp, it's musty.

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Inside the fridge, it was rusty.

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The front leather seats were actually torn.

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And the engine, in the engine bay, was rusty.

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There was every indication that it had gone underwater

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at some point in its life.

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I just said, "This is just not right."

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It didn't even have a propeller and it couldn't be put in the water.

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An engineer came and did a report for us and he said,

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"This engine is rusty, it is not going to turn.

0:18:120:18:16

"It is never going to be any good.

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"And quite frankly, my advice is to try and get your money back

0:18:180:18:23

"because it is not going to do anything, this boat, at all."

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The couple began trying to get their money back from Mr Holdsworth.

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They had hoped that he would be responsive, but it wasn't to be.

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We did try various things.

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We went through all the right sequences,

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but even when we rang him on his mobile, he ignored us.

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He just cut us off.

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I don't even know whether he thinks in his own mind

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he did anything wrong.

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Court was the only option, and the couple won their case

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when Jason didn't attend.

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But he still hasn't paid them back and in the meantime,

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they are forking out more than £300 a month

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in mooring fees when they don't even have a usable boat.

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It is heartbreaking, really. We are pensioners.

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It is an incredible amount of money to lose.

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All we can do now is leave it with the sheriffs and keep our

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fingers crossed and hope that they will be able to do something for us.

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Tommy and Craig are on the outskirts of Birmingham.

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More than 60 miles from the nearest coastline,

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it is an unlikely location to find a boat dealer.

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Nevertheless, it appears to be where Mr Holdsworth lives.

0:19:320:19:35

They think they're on the right road,

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but there is no sign of any boat conveniently sitting on a driveway.

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Also, all the houses here just seem to have numbers

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when they've only been given a name.

0:19:450:19:47

Can't see it, mate. I think it is back there.

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-But Craig thinks he has worked it out.

-It's this one here.

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So, they pull up and try their luck.

0:19:530:19:55

Hello, sir.

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Sorry to disturb you. I'm trying to find a property called The Stables.

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Any idea?

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But the man says that this isn't it and he's not Jason.

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You are not him, no, and this isn't The Stables? Right.

0:20:100:20:13

But something tells Craig that the man knows more than he's letting on.

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On the back of your jacket, it has got Holdsworth.

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And that's not all.

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So, is Jason your son, is he, or something?

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And this is The Stables, yeah?

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Down the bottom there, on the brick.

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Craig is right on the money.

0:20:330:20:34

The man shows him ID.

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Fantastic.

0:20:370:20:38

And he is indeed Jason's father.

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He says Jason doesn't live here and he'll try to get him on the phone.

0:20:410:20:44

A bit early for him, I suppose, innit?

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What do you do yourself?

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Construction.

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Oh, right, yeah. New builds.

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Craig is not getting far with his small talk

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and Mr Holdsworth senior heads off for a meeting,

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leaving the sheriffs alone on the driveway.

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Just as they wonder what to do next, Jason appears on foot.

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-You all right?

-Hello, mate. Jason is it?

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I'm Mr Wilde.

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Not too bad.

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It's to do with a High Court writ.

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A court order for...

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..Valerie Hull.

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She has obviously took a court order against you.

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For some boat or something you sold her on.

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Jason clearly knows all about the case

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and invites the sheriffs in to explain.

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The balance stands at the moment at just over £12,000.

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What, it's gone up by £2,000?

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At the moment, you've incurred £1,200 enforcement fees,

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£535 judgment costs and £129 interest.

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It's more bad news for Jason.

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Sheriffs don't work for free and by not paying the court order

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when it was due, the bill has gone up.

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Are you in a position to pay that?

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No. Well, what happens with the boat that she's got of mine?

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It is worth £12, £15,000.

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The order that I got at the moment

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is just to recover the money from you.

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When he didn't defend the case in court,

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Ms Hull was granted a default judgment,

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and Jason lost his chance to ask for the return of the boat

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to be included on the order.

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Craig doesn't do boat delivery.

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He's just here for the money owed.

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All right, well, can I pay that this weekend?

0:22:290:22:31

You can... We have to collect that today.

0:22:310:22:35

-Um...

-We can...

-What time?

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I can, yeah -

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I'm just waiting for some money to come through from another boat today

0:22:380:22:42

-which is 12.5.

-Right.

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But he hasn't paid yet this morning.

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-Right, OK.

-I can pay it, but like I said,

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-I even checked this morning, it hasn't come through yet.

-Right.

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As soon as that's in, I'll pay the balance, that's fine.

0:22:500:22:52

Can't I pay £1,000 now and then pay the rest shortly?

0:22:520:22:55

The Stables is where you live,

0:22:550:22:57

-which is further just down the lane, is it?

-Yes.

0:22:570:22:59

-Have you got a vehicle?

-Yeah, I've got two cars.

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If I can list something now, you sign the form,

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it acts as security.

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Provided Jason's vehicles are worth enough,

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then a control of goods agreement could be the answer.

0:23:100:23:13

It would effectively give the sheriffs ownership of the cars

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until the debt is paid off.

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Jason's house is close by,

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and on arrival, the sheriffs see just what they want on the driveway.

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There's his Jag there.

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INAUDIBLE

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Range Rover. And the pick-up behind. That'll do.

0:23:290:23:33

Only one of the cars is on finance, and the other two will do nicely,

0:23:330:23:38

so Craig gets straight down to business.

0:23:380:23:41

The two vehicles for security,

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if I can get you to sign

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-and, er, print your name there for me.

-Sure.

0:23:450:23:49

The deal is done, but Jason isn't particularly happy about it.

0:23:490:23:54

He still says there was nothing wrong with the boat he sold Ms Hull.

0:23:540:23:57

What I think happened is they found out it's going to be £5,000 a year

0:23:570:24:00

to keep the boat in the water,

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and they didn't want the boat any more,

0:24:020:24:04

so they basically... I said,

0:24:040:24:05

"Look, if you want to bring the boat back to the yard,

0:24:050:24:08

"get it delivered back to the yard on a trailer,

0:24:080:24:10

"then we can have a look at refunding your money,"

0:24:100:24:13

didn't hear anything back for a few months,

0:24:130:24:15

and then got the court letter saying that I owed £7,500.

0:24:150:24:19

I rang my solicitor, she dealt with it all, they've sent me a letter

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which I haven't received.

0:24:230:24:24

-OK, lovely.

-Cheers.

0:24:240:24:27

-Cheers, guys.

-See you. Take care.

0:24:270:24:29

Nevertheless, the court made its decision

0:24:290:24:32

and Jason must now pay his debt in full.

0:24:320:24:35

The sheriffs are confident he will.

0:24:350:24:37

I think they've got the money all day long,

0:24:370:24:40

they're going to pay, ten o'clock, in full.

0:24:400:24:42

Clearly, he signed control of the goods, of his vehicles, over to the court,

0:24:420:24:45

so if they don't pay, we'll be back this afternoon to remove them.

0:24:450:24:48

Mr Holdsworth did indeed settle his bill later in the day

0:24:480:24:52

and Valerie has finally got her money back.

0:24:520:24:56

Absolutely brilliant.

0:24:560:24:58

We can now carry on with our retirement,

0:24:580:25:01

hopefully look forward to getting back on the water,

0:25:010:25:04

with another boat, new boat.

0:25:040:25:06

We're just so happy that we've got the money back.

0:25:060:25:08

And she has some words of advice for any other prospective boat buyers.

0:25:080:25:12

Don't do what we did. Always go and view something like this before you purchase it.

0:25:120:25:17

That's a definite,

0:25:170:25:18

but if you do get in the same position,

0:25:180:25:21

don't give up.

0:25:210:25:22

Back in Barnet, Sheriff Ken Warby is still in a high-street locksmiths -

0:25:310:25:36

All Service For You Ltd -

0:25:360:25:37

trying to convince the boss to pay up £2,311.

0:25:370:25:43

He says he's happy to pay the original court award,

0:25:430:25:46

but not the extra fees incurred

0:25:460:25:48

after he didn't pay and the case was transferred to the sheriffs.

0:25:480:25:51

He's spoken to his solicitor. His solicitor has advised him to pay.

0:25:510:25:54

He's still not having it, he's just being very stubborn.

0:25:540:25:57

The police are still on their way because he says no-one's going

0:25:570:25:59

to be removing goods from here. Hopefully, when the police turn up,

0:25:590:26:02

they will advise him that we can remove goods from here

0:26:020:26:05

and he'll pay the debt in full.

0:26:050:26:07

Sorry, sir. I'm going to have to crack on with this.

0:26:140:26:16

So your charges will now apply, OK? You have been warned.

0:26:160:26:19

Ken calls for a removal truck...

0:26:200:26:22

meaning even more fees.

0:26:220:26:24

And he begins to make an inventory of assets in the shop.

0:26:240:26:27

But the boss isn't being very helpful.

0:26:270:26:29

Let's start with the key machine over there.

0:26:350:26:38

So, show me proof it's not yours.

0:26:410:26:43

OK. And the stock, for example?

0:26:470:26:49

OK.

0:26:510:26:52

Not really, not if we can help it.

0:26:540:26:56

You sure have.

0:26:580:26:59

Ken's not sure of a door lock's auction value,

0:27:010:27:04

but he's likely to need a lot of them to get close to the value of

0:27:040:27:07

the debt. So he needs to list everything he can find.

0:27:070:27:11

Only the boss isn't happy with him looking around.

0:27:110:27:14

I can go wherever I want, mate.

0:27:140:27:15

It's under the same roof.

0:27:190:27:21

The man once again sends our camera outside...

0:27:230:27:26

..locks the doors and closes the shutters.

0:27:320:27:35

Ken puts another call in to the police.

0:27:360:27:39

And they arrive shortly afterwards.

0:27:400:27:43

Hello?

0:27:480:27:49

Hello, it's the police.

0:27:510:27:53

Can you open the door, please? Thank you.

0:27:530:27:55

The police are let in,

0:27:570:27:58

and it's still a relatively good-natured atmosphere inside.

0:27:580:28:02

But as the boss continues to repeat the same arguments Ken's been

0:28:020:28:06

listening to for the past two and a half hours,

0:28:060:28:08

patience is wearing thin.

0:28:080:28:10

The eventual sight of the removal truck is welcome relief.

0:28:110:28:15

Ken's hoping that will provide the incentive for the boss to pay.

0:28:150:28:19

Come in when you're ready, mate.

0:28:200:28:23

With a police escort, Ken and the removals man get to work.

0:28:230:28:26

But even when faced with the prospect of an almost completely

0:28:270:28:30

empty store, the boss still doesn't cave in.

0:28:300:28:34

Now the police have arrived, now the removal guy's arrived,

0:28:360:28:40

he's now claiming that there's other companies in here

0:28:400:28:43

that own certain things, so we're looking for invoices and stuff

0:28:430:28:46

on that now as proof.

0:28:460:28:48

It's looking at the moment like he's not going to pay it.

0:28:480:28:50

He's digging his heels in, so I'm going to have to do the same.

0:28:500:28:53

And so the excruciating task of comparing thousands of locks

0:28:530:28:57

and parts against individual receipts continues.

0:28:570:29:00

Finally, as the first box of his stuff is set down in the lorry,

0:29:010:29:05

the boss reaches for his credit card and pays in full.

0:29:050:29:09

The saga is finally over.

0:29:090:29:11

The guy turned up to remove them,

0:29:110:29:13

and his bottle went. I knew he'd pay in the end.

0:29:130:29:16

Despite a judge rejecting his appeal,

0:29:220:29:24

the man is still convinced he's in the right.

0:29:240:29:27

He says Mr Mullany tried to get the damage done to his door fixed

0:29:270:29:31

after their standard guarantee had expired.

0:29:310:29:33

But he's not helped himself.

0:29:460:29:49

By failing to pay when he was ordered to

0:29:490:29:51

after the first court hearing,

0:29:510:29:52

and again when Ken turned up this morning,

0:29:520:29:55

his final bill is more than double the original judgment.

0:29:550:30:00

He's ended up paying a hell of a lot more than

0:30:000:30:03

what I originally went in there for, to the tune of over £1,500.

0:30:030:30:08

The boss might be wishing today had panned out differently,

0:30:080:30:12

but back in Stockport, his customer, Pete Mullany,

0:30:120:30:15

is more than happy with the outcome.

0:30:150:30:17

I'm just over the moon, really relieved.

0:30:170:30:20

The main thing now is to get this door repaired.

0:30:210:30:24

I think everyone has a good laugh at it when they come in now

0:30:240:30:27

and see the state that it's in at the minute.

0:30:270:30:29

When a business which is still trading owes money,

0:30:380:30:41

more often than not, a single visit

0:30:410:30:43

from the sheriffs is enough to get payment.

0:30:430:30:46

But on other occasions,

0:30:460:30:48

the sheriffs can find themselves

0:30:480:30:50

banging on the door time after time to get their claimant's money.

0:30:500:30:54

In the Midlands, enforcement agents Craig Wild and Tommy Coyle

0:30:540:30:57

are about to be given the runaround by a steel tubing company.

0:30:570:31:00

So we're off to Wolverhampton today.

0:31:000:31:02

We're off to go and see a company called Infinity Tubes Ltd.

0:31:020:31:06

Infinity Tubes Ltd owe just over £2,300.

0:31:060:31:11

They were taken to court

0:31:110:31:12

by army gunner turned salesman Paul Warren from Blackburn.

0:31:120:31:16

He'd been looking for a new job

0:31:160:31:19

when a recruitment company put him in touch with the Midlands start-up.

0:31:190:31:22

Infinity Tubes was looking to be a specialist in ERW.

0:31:240:31:28

ERW is an electro-resistant welded tube,

0:31:280:31:31

for example, an exhaust.

0:31:310:31:33

It's a strong but very lightweight product.

0:31:330:31:36

The downside to it is it's very, very cheap,

0:31:360:31:40

and you have to sell a lot of it,

0:31:400:31:42

and I mean...

0:31:420:31:43

tens of tonnes of it to get a good return on it.

0:31:430:31:47

With 13 years of sales experience in the steel industry,

0:31:470:31:52

Paul had built up a long list of customer contacts

0:31:520:31:55

and thought he could be just the man for the job.

0:31:550:31:58

I drove down to Birmingham,

0:31:580:32:00

met with them once,

0:32:000:32:02

and I said, "Yeah, I'll give it a shot, I'll see what I can do for you."

0:32:020:32:06

Paul started working from home for the company.

0:32:060:32:09

However, it wasn't long before it became clear Infinity Tubes

0:32:090:32:13

still had a lot of work to do

0:32:130:32:15

before he was going to be able to deliver the sales they needed.

0:32:150:32:19

I soon realised, within a week,

0:32:190:32:22

ten days, they really weren't geared up,

0:32:220:32:25

and I explained to them, "You haven't even got

0:32:250:32:27

"a computer system - you don't even have an e-mail!"

0:32:270:32:30

And they said, "Well, whatever you need, tell us."

0:32:300:32:32

I said, "I need price lists,

0:32:320:32:34

"I can't go into customers without price lists,"

0:32:340:32:36

so he wouldn't supply the documentation and the prices

0:32:360:32:40

that I needed to seal the deal.

0:32:400:32:42

Paul only stayed a few weeks before resigning,

0:32:420:32:46

working out his notice period and returning the company car.

0:32:460:32:50

But to his surprise, his final week's wages,

0:32:500:32:52

along with some expenses and holiday pay, didn't show up.

0:32:520:32:57

I rung him, wouldn't answer, rung him, wouldn't answer,

0:32:570:33:00

I texted him and said, "Can you please pay me the wage?"

0:33:000:33:03

The text back I got was, "Give me your customer list and we'll pay you the wage."

0:33:030:33:07

So customer lists are bread and butter.

0:33:070:33:09

They're everything, they're your worth.

0:33:090:33:12

Paul refused, and the money never came.

0:33:120:33:16

I found it more than unfair.

0:33:160:33:18

We've got bills to pay, it was Christmas,

0:33:180:33:21

and suddenly we defaulted on two payments out of our bank

0:33:210:33:24

because we thought, we didn't even give it two thoughts

0:33:240:33:27

that we weren't going to get paid.

0:33:270:33:29

Mr Shilvock, meanwhile, was showing no signs of budging.

0:33:290:33:33

So I said, "OK, then, I'll see you in court."

0:33:330:33:35

Paul filed a claim online,

0:33:350:33:37

and as is standard practice,

0:33:370:33:39

the court initially offered mediation between the two parties.

0:33:390:33:43

Paul agreed to accept a part-payment

0:33:430:33:45

in order to bring the matter to a close,

0:33:450:33:47

and it looked like they had a deal.

0:33:470:33:50

We were notified by the magistrates that he's agreed and we've agreed

0:33:500:33:53

and then, with about two days to go,

0:33:530:33:56

he suddenly said no, he weren't going to.

0:33:560:33:59

He wasn't paying a penny.

0:33:590:34:00

So instead, Paul had his day in court.

0:34:000:34:04

Mr Shilvock never showed up, and Paul won a judgment by default.

0:34:040:34:09

Four weeks later, when he still hadn't been paid,

0:34:090:34:13

something on the television caught his attention.

0:34:130:34:16

I were sat here and on the TV was your programme.

0:34:160:34:20

I went, "Hang on...

0:34:200:34:22

"They're sheriffs."

0:34:220:34:24

And my wife said, "Why don't we use the sheriffs?"

0:34:240:34:27

I've got a lot of faith in it

0:34:270:34:29

that this will put an end to it, hopefully.

0:34:290:34:32

Back in Wolverhampton, Tommy and Craig are approaching

0:34:390:34:42

the address they've been given for the company.

0:34:420:34:45

That's the Central Trading Estate in there -

0:34:450:34:47

unit 25 we're after, matey boy.

0:34:470:34:49

But as they turn into the site, they get their first inkling

0:34:490:34:52

that this job isn't going to be straightforward.

0:34:520:34:55

There you go, Infinity Welding Limited.

0:34:550:34:58

It's not quite the name they were expecting to see.

0:34:580:35:01

Look at that, mate.

0:35:010:35:03

Although Infinity Welding Limited's likely to be a connected company,

0:35:030:35:07

the sheriffs would only be able to remove assets here

0:35:070:35:10

if they're owned by the named debtor, Infinity Tubes Limited.

0:35:100:35:15

But for now, ownership is the least of their problems.

0:35:150:35:17

The unit is shut, and looks like it's been abandoned.

0:35:170:35:21

It's not looking good at all. It should be open by now.

0:35:210:35:24

With the debtor no longer present and no sign of any assets,

0:35:240:35:28

there's nothing more the sheriffs can do here.

0:35:280:35:31

Unfortunately for Mr Warren at the moment,

0:35:310:35:33

it's a case where we would have to look to trace the company

0:35:330:35:35

to another address, if they're still trading, and pursue it later on.

0:35:350:35:39

The sheriffs call it quits for now,

0:35:420:35:44

but a few weeks later, they are once again back on the road.

0:35:440:35:48

The directors of the company are Dean and Debbie Shilvock.

0:35:480:35:52

The sheriffs have run a trace on the names

0:35:520:35:54

and it's come back with a residential address.

0:35:540:35:57

-It looks like there's somebody home.

-Someone there?

-Top-floor window.

0:35:570:36:01

-Hello, sir.

-All right.

-Dean and Debbie Shilvock.

0:36:010:36:05

Is that yourself? Mr Wilde from the Sheriffs Office.

0:36:050:36:07

What's that for?

0:36:070:36:09

With a High Court writ.

0:36:090:36:10

It's Dean Shilvock, one of the directors of Infinity Tubes Limited.

0:36:100:36:15

He doesn't want our camera on his drive

0:36:150:36:18

so we have to leave while Craig explains he's here to collect

0:36:180:36:21

just over two grand.

0:36:210:36:23

Mr Shilvock and his wife say they are willing to pay, but in stages.

0:36:250:36:29

As it's unlikely there are assets here

0:36:290:36:31

belonging to the debtor company,

0:36:310:36:33

the sheriffs have little leverage, and it's an offer

0:36:330:36:36

they are willing to consider.

0:36:360:36:38

We'll forward that on to the claimant.

0:36:380:36:40

It's down to him whether he wants to accept it or not.

0:36:400:36:43

But just when it looks like a done deal,

0:36:430:36:46

Dean offers to go one step further

0:36:460:36:48

and pay in full the following day.

0:36:480:36:51

Craig can hardly believe his luck.

0:36:510:36:53

The website's there, all self-explanatory.

0:36:530:36:57

Put your reference number in, and then put your debit card in

0:36:570:37:00

and it will give you an authorisation code.

0:37:000:37:03

All right? Cheers.

0:37:030:37:04

-Thanks, guys.

-Bye-bye.

0:37:040:37:06

I think that went pretty well. for a home address at least.

0:37:060:37:08

We'll give them the benefit of the doubt, we'll give them 24 hours

0:37:080:37:11

to pay the bill, and if they do, happy days.

0:37:110:37:13

But later on, Craig and Tommy are forced to come knocking once more.

0:37:130:37:19

In London, the sheriffs are at a squat in Camden Town.

0:37:250:37:29

Morning!

0:37:290:37:30

The man who owns the land originally allowed the squatters to stay

0:37:300:37:34

but now wants it back. As expected, they are not best pleased.

0:37:340:37:37

You will be removed.

0:37:390:37:41

Physically.

0:37:410:37:42

And outside, another man isn't cooperating either.

0:37:420:37:45

You know I read minds, don't you, and I read yours

0:37:450:37:47

and it's not pleasant. Please, take it away.

0:37:470:37:50

We'll keep hanging in with him, keep playing his game

0:37:500:37:52

for a little while, and eventually enough will be enough

0:37:520:37:55

where he may have to be helped off site.

0:37:550:37:58

And he's not the only squatter sailing close to the wind.

0:37:580:38:01

If you touch me, sir, and you want to remove me, I don't know

0:38:010:38:05

if that's the best thing to do

0:38:050:38:06

because obviously you don't have any powers.

0:38:060:38:09

I do have power to do that.

0:38:090:38:10

And as the man continues to be obstructive, enough is enough.

0:38:100:38:14

I don't respond to you. Don't touch me, don't touch me!

0:38:140:38:18

You're going to get your stuff.

0:38:180:38:20

Don't touch me!

0:38:220:38:23

I haven't said anything to you, I haven't done anything to you.

0:38:230:38:26

You're going, mate. You're too gobby.

0:38:280:38:30

I'm not too gobby. What's going on here?

0:38:300:38:32

You've had the opportunity.

0:38:320:38:33

He's stopped complying with what he should be doing.

0:38:330:38:36

He's just standing around being an issue.

0:38:360:38:39

If he just carries on like that, the others are going to start

0:38:410:38:45

going along with his view.

0:38:450:38:47

Meanwhile, back inside the squat,

0:38:500:38:52

the sheriffs are still battling with the man in the tent

0:38:520:38:55

who now says he's ill.

0:38:550:38:57

-Are you unwell?

-Yes, I am.

0:38:570:39:00

Seriously unwell, I really have been for the last three years.

0:39:000:39:02

Do you want me to get you an ambulance?

0:39:020:39:04

I don't know what's going to happen. You may as well get me a nurse.

0:39:040:39:07

I live in a tent in a garden, not out of choice but out of force

0:39:070:39:10

because you people threw me out of my last life

0:39:100:39:12

because I challenged the system and refused to wear a name.

0:39:120:39:16

But the sheriffs have held it all now, so after 45 minutes

0:39:160:39:19

of arguing and endless excuses, the man is given some assistance.

0:39:190:39:23

I have done nothing to these people.

0:39:230:39:26

They are now depriving me from any ability to live.

0:39:260:39:29

Put him down gently, Steve.

0:39:290:39:32

I have my rights!

0:39:320:39:35

With the troublemakers now off the site,

0:39:350:39:37

the sheriffs need to chivvy the rest of the squatters along.

0:39:370:39:40

I can see you've got your breakfast. Have you got everything else?

0:39:400:39:43

-Are you taking the bike?

-It's mine. Yeah.

0:39:430:39:45

After being on the site for three years,

0:39:450:39:48

some of the squatters have a lot of possessions.

0:39:480:39:50

Luckily, they've also got a couple of vans,

0:39:500:39:53

which is making the process a bit easier.

0:39:530:39:56

Think we've got about half out at the moment.

0:39:560:39:58

The majority have been OK.

0:39:580:40:00

It's just a couple that have had to be removed

0:40:000:40:02

because they're not doing what we've asked them to do.

0:40:020:40:06

Meanwhile, the police have arrived, at the request of

0:40:060:40:09

one of the squatters,

0:40:090:40:10

who is convinced that the eviction is illegal.

0:40:100:40:13

But once the police see the sheriffs' paperwork,

0:40:130:40:16

it becomes clear to them

0:40:160:40:17

it's the squatters who are on the wrong side of the law.

0:40:170:40:19

OK, we'll go and hang out the front

0:40:190:40:21

and just make sure no-one's getting in the property.

0:40:210:40:23

-Thank you.

-OK?

0:40:230:40:26

As the final squatters gather their belongings and leave,

0:40:260:40:29

the temperature again starts to rise.

0:40:290:40:31

HE SHRIEKS

0:40:310:40:33

# Garden community!

0:40:330:40:35

# Garden community Garden community! #

0:40:350:40:39

The squatters are gathering outside and making themselves heard.

0:40:390:40:42

SHOUTING

0:40:420:40:46

Not that the sheriffs are worried.

0:40:460:40:48

I think it's a case of "much sound and fury doth signify nothing".

0:40:480:40:51

And with the site confirmed as clear of squatters, attention turns to

0:40:530:40:56

making sure they don't get back in and securing the site for the owner.

0:40:560:41:00

It's going to be a difficult place to secure up.

0:41:000:41:02

Ideally, they're going to want security guards here,

0:41:020:41:06

but whether he chooses that or not...

0:41:060:41:08

If he doesn't, they'll probably be back in straight away.

0:41:080:41:10

The other thing the sheriffs can do

0:41:100:41:12

is make sure there's nothing much to come back to.

0:41:120:41:15

As long as their makeshift homes are still standing,

0:41:150:41:18

this site will continue to be a draw for the squatters,

0:41:180:41:21

so the owner has asked the sheriffs to remove them.

0:41:210:41:24

SHOUTING

0:41:240:41:25

Unsurprisingly, it only winds the squatters up more.

0:41:250:41:29

Please stop destroying my home!

0:41:290:41:32

My belongings are inside!

0:41:330:41:36

SHOUTING

0:41:360:41:39

Why are you destroying our garden?

0:41:390:41:41

Why are you destroying our beautiful garden?

0:41:410:41:45

But the time has now come for the squatters to move on,

0:41:450:41:48

and Mark is confident they will.

0:41:480:41:50

There's still people coming back and forwards.

0:41:500:41:52

They've got stuff in there which we are letting them on to get,

0:41:520:41:55

escorting them on, and they're all outside still,

0:41:550:41:58

all being very verbal. But as the day goes on, they'll peter out.

0:41:580:42:05

Thanks to the sheriffs,

0:42:050:42:07

the land is back in the hands of its rightful owner.

0:42:070:42:10

In the Midlands, Tommy and Craig are on the road again chasing

0:42:150:42:19

an outstanding debt, owed by steel company Infinity Tubes Ltd.

0:42:190:42:23

It owes more than £2,000

0:42:230:42:25

after being taken to court by former employee Paul Warren.

0:42:250:42:29

The sheriffs have already visited

0:42:290:42:31

the company's former business premises...

0:42:310:42:33

There you go, Infinity Welding Ltd!

0:42:330:42:35

..and the directors' home.

0:42:350:42:37

But today they find themselves making a return visit.

0:42:370:42:40

We're going to go and see Mr and Mrs Shilvock, who we've been to before.

0:42:400:42:44

They said they'll pay.

0:42:440:42:46

We gave them seven days to produce the payment,

0:42:460:42:50

which Mr Shilvock said he would do the following day.

0:42:500:42:52

Our office have informed us that that hasn't happened,

0:42:520:42:55

so we're off today to see why it hasn't happened.

0:42:550:42:59

The sheriffs pull up at the address and head in.

0:42:590:43:02

KNOCK ON DOOR

0:43:050:43:06

Hiya, Debbie.

0:43:060:43:08

Company director Debbie Shilvock has answered the door, but

0:43:080:43:12

she isn't happy about the sheriffs turning up here for a second time.

0:43:120:43:15

The main bone of contention she's just mentioned then

0:43:150:43:18

is because it's a limited company

0:43:180:43:19

we shouldn't be attending the home address.

0:43:190:43:21

However, two factors in that -

0:43:210:43:23

A, we haven't got the new company address,

0:43:230:43:25

because they've moved from the old address.

0:43:250:43:28

And the second factor is, with a court order,

0:43:290:43:32

we can go anywhere in England and Wales where we can find

0:43:320:43:34

the assets of the defendant, in this particular case a limited company.

0:43:340:43:38

Company assets like the office desk, computer, printer, laptop,

0:43:380:43:41

it could all be in there.

0:43:410:43:43

Probably not, because they've got another premises

0:43:430:43:45

they trade out of, but it doesn't stop us from coming here legally.

0:43:450:43:49

The sheriffs can attend anywhere a debtor carries out a trade

0:43:490:43:52

or business in order to get paid.

0:43:520:43:55

With Debbie's husband and co-director Dean now apparently

0:43:550:43:58

on his way, they're hoping that's what's about to happen.

0:43:580:44:01

We're going to wait for her husband to come here and try

0:44:020:44:05

and elicit the payment from the husband,

0:44:050:44:07

who was quite keen last time to try and get it resolved.

0:44:070:44:10

So, erm, I can't understand why they haven't paid it.

0:44:100:44:13

Ten minutes later, Dean pulls up.

0:44:140:44:17

Perhaps he can explain why, more than four months after the court

0:44:170:44:20

ruled against Infinity Tubes Ltd,

0:44:200:44:22

the company still hasn't settled its debt.

0:44:220:44:25

Hiya, Dean.

0:44:260:44:28

Mr Shilvock heads inside with the sheriffs, where he explains that

0:44:280:44:31

he believes the court's decision was unfair and wants to challenge it.

0:44:310:44:36

Craig explains that, while he can appeal,

0:44:360:44:38

for now the bill needs paying. Soon Tommy emerges with news.

0:44:380:44:43

Yeah, we've had a conversation with them. They're looking to pay us.

0:44:430:44:46

They are going back to court, but we explained it's not going to go away.

0:44:460:44:50

We've come back for a second time now.

0:44:500:44:52

So they've agreed to pay it, so it's getting the card machine,

0:44:520:44:55

going to facilitate the payment.

0:44:550:44:57

Tommy goes back inside, where, sure enough, the bill is settled in full.

0:44:570:45:00

But while Tommy heads back to the van,

0:45:020:45:04

Craig appears to have got distracted.

0:45:040:45:07

I bet when it fires up you wake all the neighbours up, Dean.

0:45:070:45:09

Dean's Ford Mustang has caught his eye

0:45:090:45:12

and its proud owner is more than happy to show it off.

0:45:120:45:16

-Oh, looking at the car now.

-Five-litre.

0:45:160:45:18

Oh, look, it's kicked in now, look. Yeah.

0:45:190:45:22

Longest ever conversation with our Craig.

0:45:220:45:24

I bet you want to book yourself into a track, don't you?

0:45:240:45:27

THEY LAUGH

0:45:270:45:29

A Mustang's a nice bit of kit. Lovely bit of kit. I like my motors.

0:45:290:45:33

Very, very nippy. And Dean quite likes it, as well, obviously.

0:45:330:45:37

As for the debt, Craig's satisfied with the day's outcome.

0:45:370:45:41

They've done the decent and right thing by paying it in full.

0:45:410:45:45

In fact, Infinity Tubes Ltd never did go back to court.

0:45:450:45:49

And in Blackburn, Paul Warren has finally got the money he's owed.

0:45:490:45:53

The sheriffs have contacted us,

0:45:530:45:55

saying that they've recovered the full money from Infinity Tubes,

0:45:550:45:58

which is fantastic for us. It's been a long journey, in our eyes.

0:45:580:46:02

We never thought that we'd get to this day, but we are.

0:46:020:46:05

It's a great result and a big, big weight off our minds. Fantastic.

0:46:050:46:09

In the capital, Lawrence and Kev are slogging through

0:46:150:46:18

the mid-morning traffic on their way to collect another unpaid debt.

0:46:180:46:22

We're in central London, actually, just near Earl's Court.

0:46:220:46:25

We're going to see Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd.

0:46:250:46:29

I think it's some sort of finance company.

0:46:290:46:31

They owe £16,251.

0:46:310:46:35

Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd

0:46:390:46:41

was taken to court by their landlord for unpaid rent.

0:46:410:46:44

The company defended the case in court but lost

0:46:440:46:48

and was ordered to pay their debt plus costs.

0:46:480:46:51

Six months later, it still hasn't done so.

0:46:510:46:54

Now it's down to the sheriffs to collect.

0:46:540:46:57

It's a tough one to call, this.

0:46:570:46:58

It's going to be an office, we're in the middle of London.

0:46:580:47:01

At a guess, you'd say they're not going to have too many assets.

0:47:010:47:04

It's quite a lot of money we're after, as well, but...

0:47:040:47:07

ever hopeful.

0:47:070:47:09

There it is, there.

0:47:090:47:12

-Yeah.

-It's like one of these money express places.

0:47:120:47:14

Well, at least there should be some cash on site.

0:47:150:47:18

Whether it'll stretch to £16,000 is another matter.

0:47:180:47:22

The sheriffs are about to find out.

0:47:220:47:25

Morning. I'm looking for Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd.

0:47:340:47:37

Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd?

0:47:380:47:40

Bizarrely, despite branding everywhere which suggests they're

0:47:400:47:44

in the right place, the cashier says that's not who he works for.

0:47:440:47:48

Is there anyone here from them, then?

0:47:480:47:50

No? This is their registered office.

0:47:500:47:53

The man thinks it isn't, so Lawrence sets him straight.

0:47:530:47:56

-There you are. It says so on this door.

-It says there on the door.

0:47:560:47:59

It does.

0:48:010:48:03

So, have you got contact with them upstairs?

0:48:030:48:05

There's no buzzer, no intercom?

0:48:050:48:07

KNOCKS ON DOOR

0:48:070:48:10

The cashier doesn't seem to know very much.

0:48:100:48:12

But there is one thing he's sure of.

0:48:120:48:14

-There's no-one there.

-There's nobody there. How do you know?

0:48:150:48:20

You've never seen it open. What time do you get here in the morning?

0:48:200:48:23

Nine thirty, yeah. What time do you leave?

0:48:230:48:26

Five thirty. And you've never seen anybody come in or out the door?

0:48:260:48:30

They are getting some answers at last,

0:48:300:48:32

even if they're not very useful. Lawrence tries a different tack.

0:48:320:48:36

I've got a number on the file... so I'm going to give it a ring.

0:48:360:48:42

Hello there. My name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent.

0:48:420:48:45

I'm looking for Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd.

0:48:450:48:48

Right, I'm basically here with a High Court writ which orders me

0:48:480:48:52

to take control of the goods of the company which can be

0:48:520:48:54

sold at auction to clear a debt.

0:48:540:48:57

And as this is commercial premises,

0:48:570:48:59

I can force entry with a locksmith, if necessary...

0:48:590:49:02

..to search for company assets and remove them.

0:49:030:49:06

It seems to do the trick.

0:49:060:49:08

Yeah, if somebody wants to come here

0:49:080:49:10

and pay in cash, yes, that's fine. Bye-bye.

0:49:100:49:13

She's asked for half an hour to get it sorted.

0:49:140:49:17

So who knows?

0:49:190:49:21

From what had seemed like a bit of a dead end,

0:49:210:49:24

suddenly this job's looking up.

0:49:240:49:26

A few minutes later, the cashier beckons Lawrence over.

0:49:260:49:30

Call from head office. And...have your number, please?

0:49:300:49:35

Whose head office is this? Yours?

0:49:350:49:37

Or the company I'm looking for?

0:49:380:49:40

Once again, communication is difficult.

0:49:400:49:43

Oh, whatever. I don't know why you don't speak into that microphone.

0:49:430:49:46

I might be able to hear you.

0:49:460:49:48

One way or another, though, head office does get through.

0:49:480:49:51

PHONE RINGS

0:49:510:49:53

Hello. Mr Grix speaking.

0:49:530:49:55

Hello there.

0:49:570:49:59

No, it needs to be full payment. I can't believe that a company

0:49:590:50:01

such as yourselves can't rustle up £16,000, to be honest.

0:50:010:50:05

Well, you had a turnover last time

0:50:060:50:08

you submitted your books of 1.8 million.

0:50:080:50:10

So I can't believe that you can't come up with £16,000.

0:50:120:50:14

I know what you're saying, it's short notice, but it's not

0:50:140:50:17

short notice, because it's been all through the County Court,

0:50:170:50:20

we've sent a notice of enforcement,

0:50:200:50:22

there's been plenty of paperwork to do with this,

0:50:220:50:24

but somebody's either ignored it or buried their heads in the sand,

0:50:240:50:29

and it's now crunch day. OK?

0:50:290:50:31

Bye-bye.

0:50:320:50:34

She's spoken to somebody, and they can pay half the money now

0:50:350:50:39

and the balance on Friday.

0:50:390:50:40

Erm, but at the moment, I've said no to that, because they've

0:50:400:50:43

managed to come up with half the money very, very quickly.

0:50:430:50:47

And we'll see what she comes back with in half an hour.

0:50:470:50:50

In fact, he only has to wait a few minutes for an improved offer.

0:50:500:50:54

-PHONE RINGS

-Hello, Mr Grix speaking.

0:50:540:50:58

It's not for the full amount, but it's enough.

0:50:590:51:02

Yeah, if you make that by immediate payment and just give me a buzz

0:51:020:51:05

when it's done, providing the balance hits the account

0:51:050:51:07

by close of business Friday, then that'll be the matter dealt with.

0:51:070:51:11

OK? Thanks. Bye-bye.

0:51:120:51:14

Going to make a £10,000 payment in the next couple of minutes

0:51:160:51:19

and then the balance on Friday. It's Wednesday, so I can live with that.

0:51:190:51:24

Lawrence soon gets confirmation

0:51:240:51:26

that the first payment's been made...

0:51:260:51:28

-£10,000 is in.

-..leaves a receipt...

0:51:280:51:30

They know I'm leaving it with you,

0:51:300:51:32

and I'm presuming somebody will come and collect it at some point.

0:51:320:51:35

..and is on his way, pleasantly surprised.

0:51:350:51:38

They offered half the debt initially.

0:51:380:51:40

I insisted on full payment.

0:51:400:51:42

They came back sort of ten minutes later with an offer of £10,000.

0:51:420:51:46

And, really, in the situation where I hadn't even got into the office

0:51:460:51:50

and it looks like they don't even use the office so I'd have to

0:51:500:51:53

use locksmiths to get in, I think that's a pretty good result, really.

0:51:530:51:57

Berkeley Credit and Guarantee Ltd later made the second payment,

0:51:570:52:02

and their landlord finally got the money they were owed.

0:52:020:52:04

If you've won a County Court judgment and haven't been paid,

0:52:090:52:12

for £66 you can get the case transferred up to the High Court,

0:52:120:52:16

which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs.

0:52:160:52:20

My job is to collect in full or remove goods.

0:52:200:52:24

They've got special powers of entry.

0:52:240:52:27

We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid.

0:52:270:52:30

And there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue.

0:52:300:52:33

£1.6 million.

0:52:330:52:36

If they're successful, they'll recover your money

0:52:360:52:39

and costs from the debtor...

0:52:390:52:41

You've got the cash now, then?

0:52:410:52:42

..as well as their own fees, which are set by the Government.

0:52:420:52:45

-She's paid, the judgment is settled.

-Thank you very much.

0:52:450:52:49

If the sheriffs can't get your money,

0:52:490:52:51

they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT.

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In the south-east, Lawrence and Kev are on their way to collect

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money owed by a car dealer's.

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We're going to Walton Motors. It's a 4x4 showroom. A family-run business.

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This debt was incurred. It's a refund for a car.

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The claimant wasn't happy with the vehicle

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they'd bought from Walton Motors and so took them to court.

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When the dealership didn't defend the case,

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judgment was found against them and they were ordered to refund him.

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But two months on, they haven't done so.

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They owe £6,045.

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So we're going to go and get that.

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This won't be the first time Lawrence has been to the dealer's.

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I bought an Isuzu Trooper off them years ago.

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To be fair, I never had any trouble with it.

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He's hoping today's visit will also be plain sailing.

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Hell, look at that. They've obviously expanded, haven't they?

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Not only that, but they now seem to have a large stock

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of one of car buff Lawrence's favourite motors.

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They're obviously specialising in Land Rovers now.

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You're going to love this, as well, ain't you?

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It's like you've died and gone to Heaven.

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-Yeah.

-And there's another reason to be cheerful.

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The large number of cars bodes well for getting paid.

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But will it be without any argument?

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-Hiya.

-Morning. You're in charge at the moment, yeah?

-Not really.

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Well, you'll do.

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My name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent.

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We're ordered out today to take control of goods to clear a debt.

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The boss isn't here, but the staff quickly get him on the phone.

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-Morning, sir.

-And Lawrence doesn't beat around the bush.

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My colleague and I are here today

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with a High Court writ against Walton Motors.

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We're ordered here to take control of goods

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to the value of £6,045.14...

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and the only way to prevent further action is pay in full.

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At first, it doesn't seem to be ringing any bells with the boss,

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-so Lawrence tries to jog his memory.

-He bought a car from you, basically.

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There's a note on my file that says he's still got the car

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and he wants to give it back, but obviously he's not going to

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until you settle this judgment, sir.

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But that's not something we get involved with.

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We're ordered out because you haven't paid it.

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Courts can demand the return of goods in exchange for a refund,

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only in this case no such conditions were applied.

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But just as Lawrence thinks he might have a battle on his hands,

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the mood changes.

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Yes, we are. Yeah.

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The man has seen the sheriffs on the telly.

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I'm the fat, bald one with the goatee beard.

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And my colleague, who's always working with me, he's here, as well.

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With the boss fully in the picture,

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conversation quickly turns to methods of payment.

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We've got a Chip and Pin machine here.

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Or you can go online and pay with a card.

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All right. Cheers. Bye-bye.

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He's going to ring back in a minute.

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Things are moving in the right direction.

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Kev's sizing up the assets on the forecourt, just in case.

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But he's pretty confident of getting the matter resolved.

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It sounds like he's just going to pay online

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and then try and get the vehicle back.

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Sure enough, a few minutes later, the boss is back on the phone.

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Hello, sir.

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The payment's gone through, so with the bill settled,

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Lawrence offers some friendly advice

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about retrieving the vehicle from the claimant.

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I would say probably within about 48 hours,

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you'd be safe to give him a ring and say, "Look, it's been paid.

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"What about having me car back?"

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Cheers. Bye.

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The man has paid the full £6,045 outstanding.

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-Thank you very much. We'll leave you in peace.

-Cheers.

-Cheers, guys.

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That went very smoothly. They got the owner on the phone,

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paid it on the card ten minutes later. Job done.

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Back in the van...

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Let's get some food.

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Yeah, it's already in the sat nav, mate.

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The claimant will now get back the money the court says he's owed.

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He'll have to come to an agreement with the garage

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about the return of the car.

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Walton Motors told us:

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