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Meet the sheriffs. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
It's to do with a High Court order. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
They work for the High Court, and if it says you're owed money, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
I'm here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
They can demand payment on the spot... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
How are you going to pay it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
..or remove assets instead. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
The car will be going unless you can pay it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
I wouldn't do that if I were you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
Every year, in England and Wales, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
are recovered by the sheriffs. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
Coming up, a budding property developer's lost out | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
after squatters took over his building. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
We have subsidised the squatters, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
approximately £20,000. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
When the sheriffs tried to evict them, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
they get more than they bargained for. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Didn't see all that, did you? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
There's confusion when Tommy and Craig chase money | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
owed by a clothing manufacturer... | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
..only their story doesn't check out. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
It transpires the arrangement they had in place, they've defaulted on. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
A locksmith's done a botched job on Pete Mullany's door. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
The mechanism was the wrong one. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
The whole frame and everything was damaged. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
It was a bit of a disaster. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
The boss of the company responsible doesn't want to cooperate. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
But can Ken change his mind? | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
That's what I like to see, plenty of stock in the shop. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
And Lawrence and Kev are on the hunt for a stables manager | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
who owes money. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
Hello? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
No sign of anybody, is there? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
The place is deserted, but can they get the debtor's attention? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
HORN BEEPS | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Return to the stables immediately please, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
so that we can deal with this. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
This morning, enforcement agent Ken Warby | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
is in his usual North London patch. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
He's heading to a shop in Barnet, in pursuit of an unpaid debt. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
On the face of it, it looks like a run-of-the-mill job, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
but he's about to be reminded | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
that it takes some people longer than others | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
to come to terms with the realities of High Court enforcement. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
We are going to visit a company called All Service For You. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
I believe they're a security company. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
To be precise, All Service For You Ltd | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
is a locksmiths, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
and their debt of more than £2,000 all began | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
with a surprisingly simple problem, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
a broken lock on the front door | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
of Pete Mullany's family home in Stockport. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
The locks themselves wasn't shutting properly, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
such that when you shut the door, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
it was just slightly sticking out a bit, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
so the locks had probably been in there 20 years, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
and they just needed replacing. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Pete and his wife called around locksmiths for quotes, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
before settling on All Service For You, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
thinking it was a local company. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
It wasn't until we found out a little bit further on in the process | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
that the company was based in London, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and they'd outsourced it to local contractors to pick up the deal. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
So it wasn't kind of what we were hoping for. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
And when a workman came to fix the lock, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
it didn't exactly go as planned. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
It's a composite door with its own unique locking mechanism, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
and the mechanism that he put in was the wrong one, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
so as a result, there was loads of holes everywhere, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
which had been filled in with Polyfilla. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
The door was slightly damaged, as well, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
and at the bottom, didn't shut properly. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
You could actually see the light coming through, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
the wind blowing through into the hallway. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
So all told, it was a bit of a disaster. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
At first, it looked like All Service For You | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
were keen to help and sent someone else out | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
to fix the problem, only HE fared no better. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
He himself had to, in parts in the door, lathe down the door, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
and as a consequence of lathing down the door, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
he actually splintered all the door, so the damage got worse. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
This time, when the Mullanys tried to complain, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
they found the company was less responsive. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Calls and messages went unanswered and in the end, they just gave up, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
until several months later, when events spurred Pete into action. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
I went to slam the door and the actual splinter | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
started to come away, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
and that's when I realised that this job wasn't good enough. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
So what I did, I did two things, really. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I checked the original invoice that we got for the locks. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
They'd put one-year warranty, so I thought I was within that one year, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
so still within my rights to do something about it. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
So I contacted them and asked them to ring me, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
sent all the pictures again, and as usual, they never got back. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Pete decided he wasn't going to take it lying down, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
and following guidance given him by Citizens' Advice, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
got a second opinion. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
I contacted a local master locksmith. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
He came round, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
and originally, we'd been looking at this as to settle the damage | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
for the lock, but it was him who pointed out | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
that the whole doorframe and everything was damaged, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and suddenly, it ramped up from just replacing the locks | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
to actually the whole door and the whole frame. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Pete made a claim against All Service For You Ltd | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
through the County Courts, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
and when they didn't offer a defence, he won a default judgment. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
But weeks down the line, there's still no sign of his money. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
I've still not received any correspondence from the defendant | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
as to whether he's paying this money, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
so I'm getting pretty desperate and I'm just thinking, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
"What do I need to do?" | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
More than anything, we need to get that door sorted. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Three daughters in the house, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
my constant fear is that someone could break that door down. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
When it rains heavily, we're always scared about ingress of water | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
coming into the house. When it's windy, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
you can hear it whistling through the bottom of the door. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Desperate to get his money, and with the law on his side, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Pete's escalated the case to the High Court | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and called in the sheriffs. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I'm hoping that they are going to get that money for me, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
because this has been a mega process, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and it just feels like if it falls at the last step, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
I'll be absolutely devastated. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
In Barnet, Ken's on his way to the shop | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
where All Service For You are thought to trade. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Since Pete enlisted the sheriffs' help to get his money back, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
there have been further legal developments, but Ken is undeterred. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
I know that there was an application... | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
..to get the judgment set aside, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
which has recently been thrown out of court, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
so we are good to go on it. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
As he reaches the address, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
it seems the name of the shop doesn't quite match | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
the name on his writ. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
37, All Time Security... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
But it's probably just a trading name for the same business, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and Ken likes what he sees. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Walk straight in the shop front, that should be easy enough. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Little does Ken know the extent to which his patience will be tested, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
but he does at least find a nice place for the car. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
That's a good little spot. It's free... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
..and it's literally over the road. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Time for Ken to discover whether the company's planning | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-to finally pay up for Pete's door. -Hello. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
All Service For You Ltd? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
Yes. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I need to speak to the person in charge. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
It's the right company, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
and the woman behind the desk quickly finds the manager. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
My name is Mr Warby. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
OK. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
This is regarding a judgment from an individual called Mr Pete Mullany. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
I think you know about it, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
because I think you tried to get the judgment set aside. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
OK. And what was the outcome? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
The sheriffs are used to arguing with people | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
who think their cases are still ongoing, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
but as this man's appeal was rejected yesterday, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
he should know exactly where he stands. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-Yes. -So far, so good. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Or maybe not. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
The man believes that his intention to appeal again | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
means he doesn't have to pay, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
but that's not what the law says. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
The locksmiths were ordered to pay Mr Mullany nearly two months ago, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
and this man's attempt to get the judgment overturned has failed. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
The situation's this... | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
These now have a High Court judgment against you, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
so I'm here for the full balance. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
After costs, it's now £2,311, that's what I'm here for. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
The man now says he's willing to pay the original judgment debt, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
without costs and fees, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
but the time to pay this lower figure has long gone. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
The amount with Sheriffs' fees currently stands at £2,311.50. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
Yeah... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
At this point, our camera is asked to leave. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Inside, Ken attempts to explain to the manager | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
that he needs to find more than two grand pretty quickly, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
or else goods will be removed from the shop. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
But the man doesn't like what he's hearing and closes the shutters, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
trapping Ken inside. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
Ken follows protocol and calls the police. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
For 25 minutes, the discussion continues behind closed doors, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
until eventually, the shutters reopen. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
The boss thinks he's found a loophole in Ken's paperwork | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
and wants to show us. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
The address on the writ is the company's registered office, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
not here, where they are trading from. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Thinking he's onto a winner, the boss lets us back in. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
But he's barking up the wrong tree. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Sheriffs can attend anywhere the debtor resides | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
or carries out a trade or business. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Yeah, we're instructed by the client to attend here, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
so that is an extension for the writ. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
To be here. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
The manager seems to think it's unreasonable for the claimant | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
to want the money he's legally owed. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Ken decides the easiest thing is to just wait for backup. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
I want it done amicably, OK? I want the police here, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
just so they can let you know because you won't take it from me, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
that we are within our rights to be here, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
and that we can remove goods from here. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Maybe you'll have it from the police officer, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
and if he then can't convince you, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I'll call up the van and we'll remove goods. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Later, as he starts listing goods for potential removal... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
I can go wherever I want, mate. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
..Ken gets locked in again. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
Using the county courts to try to recover money you're owed | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
isn't difficult. 1.5 million money claims | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
are made every year in England and Wales, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
to unpaid invoices. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
If you're successful, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
a County Court Judgment or CCJ will be issued against the debtor. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
And if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
It's 6am in Brixton, South London. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
All right, I'll give out a couple of copies of the writ. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Under the cover of darkness, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
the sheriffs are quietly preparing to carry out an eviction | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
on a group of squatters. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
They've taken over a nearby commercial premises, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and it's the job of team leader Mark King | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
to take it back for the owner. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
The client has said there is potentially | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
up to 15 people in there. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
We'll give them the opportunity to get their stuff together. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
If they don't, or they mess about or become aggressive or anything, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
they'll just be removed from the property. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
The building is owned by Julien Gressier. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
He works in the fashion industry but with a background in architecture, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
also has a sideline in small-scale property development. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
For me, it's about doing something that I like doing | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
and trying to make a living, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
while creating homes which are desperately needed, you know, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
in the UK and in London. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
The property in question is a commercial building, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
which, until recently, was used to sell car parts. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
But Julien is hoping to develop it | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
into a mix of residential and commercial units. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
It is currently a large warehouse on two floors, probably 1930s built, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:14 | |
industrial to some extent, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
which is very much part of the DNA of the building | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
which we want to retain. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
However, shortly after buying it at auction, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Julien was informed that squatters had moved in. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
As the building had been empty for a few months, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
at first he was sympathetic, and went to speak to them. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
They were keen on some sort of deal whereby they stay in the place, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
look after it, and it wouldn't deteriorate any further. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
To some extent, we were probably open to discussion, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
but I think came a point where we fairly quickly realised | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
that they were taking the mickey, if you can use that! | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
The squatters are preventing access to the building | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
which Julien needs to progress the works, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
and because he was unable to persuade them to leave, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
he's embarking on the legal process of getting them removed. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
He's ploughed all his savings into this project, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
and reckons the squatters' intervention | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
has cost him a small fortune. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
We are paying, every month. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
Business rates are probably about £3,000 a month on the place. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
We were potentially looking at doing short-term rentals | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
for photo shoots and things like that | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
which would have recovered some of these costs, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
which, again, now is not possible at all. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Overall... | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
We have subsidised the squatters by approximately £20,000. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Julien has now obtained a writ of possession from the courts, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
which means he can legally evict the squatters, but even so, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
he's made one last-ditch effort to get them to leave peacefully. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
We were saying, "Look, we've got now all the paperwork in place, | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
"tomorrow, we can get the team to literally throw you out. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
"We thought we'd come, you know, it would save us some money, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
"save you some hassle, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"let's come to some agreement maybe next week or something. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
"You know, you can move out without having to go through that." | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
They were very much defiant. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
I think by now I feel that I'm probably being a bit naive and... | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
And they're just, you know, taking advantage. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
It's now down to the sheriffs to finish the job. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
Julien's sure that one way or another, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
he'll get the property back, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
but he's worried about what state it might be in. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
The squatters have now been in the property for nearly a month, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
a month and a half, maybe nearly two months? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
We have been told by neighbours | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
that there are approximately 30 people in there, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
dogs as well, so we don't know how bad it's going to be. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
While the squatters are asleep, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
the sheriffs are getting ready to make their move. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Team leader Mark King is no stranger to the tricks | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
squatters can employ to keep the authorities out, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
so he's doing a recce with locksmith Andy | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
to find out what they might be up against, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
and it doesn't look good. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Just had a look, all the shutters around the front and the side | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
are padlocked or locked up. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Don't look like they're being used. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
There are two doors which are both locked, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
but they're barricaded on the inside. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Barricaded doors are bad news for the sheriffs. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
They want to gain access quickly and quietly | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
before the squatters are awake and can cause any trouble. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So Mark needs to choose which of the doors | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
he thinks will be the easiest for the team to force open. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Just get the door open. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
He opts for one which he thinks the squatters might be using | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
to go in and out themselves, and gives the go-ahead. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Knock it in. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
The door is putting up a fight, but persistence pays off. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
And with a bit of elbow grease, the sheriffs manage to prise it open. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
All right. Hold on, hold on. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
What's behind it, though, is going to be much more of a problem. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
That ain't the way they're coming in, then. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
The doorway's thoroughly barricaded. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
The sheriffs throw everything at it they can. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
Someone else give it a go. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
But they've lost the element of surprise, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
so Mark might as well appeal to the squatters directly. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Right, listen, fellas. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
We're enforcement officers with a High Court writ. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
We're coming in. You need to start packing up your stuff, yeah? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
What the sheriffs don't want is to give the squatters enough time | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
to create any more obstacles... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
..especially as the heavily fortified barricade | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
they're already up against isn't showing any signs of budging. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Keep going at that one. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Mark can't afford to waste any more time, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
so turns his attention to the shutters instead. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
That doesn't prove to be much easier, but eventually, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
they managed to force a gap just wide enough to squeeze through. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-All right, we're in, we're in. -Go, go, go. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Once inside, they set about waking everyone up and moving them out. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
Right, you need to pack your stuff straightaway. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
You've got ten minutes. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
All right, fella, get your stuff packed up. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
You need to leave, yeah? | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
Half-asleep squatters aren't the easiest to get motivated. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
And it's not only people that need to leave. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
We've got dogs, yeah. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-Yeah, three upstairs. -All right. OK. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
As the squatters slowly start to get their possessions together, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Mark reviews his tactical entry. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
We chose the wrong door, really, didn't we?! | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
But you can't, you can't tell until you get inside. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
I mean, we would have got through that eventually. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Either way, they're in, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and it seems like the squatters accept the game's up. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
They were throwing stuff against the door first off, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
but once we're in, they're just packing up, aren't they? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Because they know what's happening. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
The sheriffs' priority now | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
is to try to get the squatters to remove as many of their possessions | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
as possible, preferably quickly. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Well, ideally... | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
..we don't want them to be here too long, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
because the longer we're here, the more it's costing the client, but... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
..on the other hand, we want them to take their possessions, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
because if they've got their stuff, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
then they're not going to want to get back in here. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
And this group certainly has a lot of stuff. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
While the squatters' possessions pile up on the pavement outside, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
Mark has a look around the premises. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
He's seen worse, but like many squatted premises, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
it's been left in a bit of a state. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
One of their bedrooms, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
which is probably some old office or something. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Normally, they take their mattresses with them, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
but they've not bothered this time. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
So far, things are all going smoothly enough. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Just when it looks like this eviction | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
might pass without incident, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
the mood starts to change. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Just come and go, get your stuff, if you carry on, listen, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
if you carry on playing up, yeah, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
it's going to affect other people getting their stuff, OK? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Come and get your stuff as you need to, and that's it. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Another of the squatters isn't keen on having their 15 minutes of fame, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
and is obstructing our cameraman. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-Just leave her alone. -No, I'm in the street, you're not police, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
you do your job, this is a public highway. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Yeah, it's a public highway. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
When the sheriffs step in, tempers flare. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Don't touch me, not in a public place, don't touch me. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
I'm not touching anything. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
Not touching anything. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Hey, hey, hey, hey! | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Look, just calm down, fellas. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-Do you want to get arrested? -Why? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Do you want to get arrested? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
-We're in the street. -Well then, stop. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
You don't want to make things worse for everyone else out here. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
The squatters are becoming more and more agitated. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
The situation is starting to turn ugly. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Watch me! Hey, hey, hey! | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Try and burn me again with it, and I will chuck it. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-No. -You don't... You are grabbing me. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
You just tried to burn me with your cigarette. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Don't grab me. This woman is grabbing me. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
I'm not doing anything. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
No-one else to go back in now. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
No-one goes in now, Rupert. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
What? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
Take a step back. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
-What? -Take a step back, take a step back. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
No-one's going back in there because she's messing about. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Enough is enough. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
With some of the squatters getting aggressive, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
the sheriffs take the decision not to let anyone else back in. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Whatever possessions are inside will have to be left behind. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
So it's now all the more important the building's well and truly secured, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
so they don't break back in later. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Locksmith Andy's already on the case, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
and there is at least one door where the job's been done for him. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
Yeah, a bit of barricading from the front. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
So I don't think Andy will do anything with that, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
because it's as good as it's going to be. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
As the new locks go on, the squatters start to disperse. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
But just as it appears that the tensions have been defused, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
one man who was causing trouble earlier comes back for more... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
A MAN SHOUTS | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
..kicking our cameraman in the shins as a parting shot. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
We don't care. You're not welcome. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
He's just doing his job. Leave him alone. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
That's the last we see of him, though, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
and as the final stragglers head on their way, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
the sheriffs' work is done. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
All the locks have been changed. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
All the padlocks, exterior locks, door locks, everything. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
The property's secure. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
Um... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
just got to sign vacant possession to the client, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and then it's time for breakfast. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
The property is now back in the hands of the owner, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
and, a few weeks later, we're catching up with him. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Julien says the damage turned out to be far worse | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
than he had feared. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
You had the alarm system that they ripped out, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
you had the copper pipes, which were pretty much running all across, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
that they nicked. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
You know, chopped them off, sold for scrap, I guess. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
The worst was actually all the rubbish that we had to get rid of. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
That was probably about £3,000 to get rid of it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
But with the clear-up complete, the space is now usable once more. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
It's being hired for photo shoots as planned, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
while the details of the redevelopment are finalised. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Julien is relieved to have his project back on track. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
I'm really happy I got the place back. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
It was pretty much two months of delay, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
but it's now behind us. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
I have to thank the sheriffs very much | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
for their...for their help. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
And for giving us the space back, really. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Goods and services must meet expectations, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
or else the buyer is usually entitled to their money back. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Much of the sheriffs' work concerns cases like these, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
and while they might feel they've seen it all, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
there are still jobs that throw up surprises. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
In the South-east, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and Kev McNally are heading into the countryside. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
We are in Horsham in West Sussex today. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
We're going to West Sussex Livery. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
The debt is relating to... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
Is that a wind-up? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
What is the debt relating to? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Kev can barely believe it, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
but the dispute began with the purchase of some | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
horse semen, as Lawrence explains. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Apparently, our claimant's mare, um, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
was due to be impregnated by the debtor's stallion. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
I don't know if it was artificial or if they actually covered the mare. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
But the mare didn't get pregnant. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Test results on the stallion's semen revealed it was substandard, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
and was therefore unlikely to result in a pregnancy. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
This is basically the money she paid for the... | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
..for the duff semen. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
It may not be your typical case, but the law works the same nonetheless. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
After the mare's owner was refused a refund, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
she took West Sussex Livery to court - and won. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
That was six months ago, and with costs and fees, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
the stables now owes £2,273. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Kev reckons he's got a pretty good idea of what assets | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
they're likely to find. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
There's going to be stuff to remove at a stables, you presume. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
I suppose, potentially, horses but, in reality, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
that's not going to be happening. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
But if that's the only asset they've got, we have to take it. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
We're not going to take any horses. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
As they approach the location the claimant's given them, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Lawrence realises they've got a problem. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
Access to the stables seems to be through a neighbouring farm, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
and the sheriffs aren't entitled to just go wherever they like. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
The stables are out the back here. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
But we can't cross third-party premises to get into | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
where we're going. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
We can't cross somebody else's land. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
At least not without their permission. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
The sheriffs pull up outside a back entrance to the farm | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
and try their luck. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
See, it's shut. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
The sheriffs might have stumbled at the first fence. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
If they were to get into the property improperly, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
any subsequent action they take could be overturned by a judge. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
Here, go on, hop up. Just... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
pull yourself up and have a butchers. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
But the law doesn't stop them from taking a look. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
-The door's open here. -Oh, what, the door into the building? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
There's someone... The door's open here. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Is it? Hello?! | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
There's no answer. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
But Kev's pretty sure they're in the right place. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I did see one of the horses' heads sticking out. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
I'm not sure if it was the, uh, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
the horse in question. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
From his elevated position, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
Kev has also spotted a track which might be another way in. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
They get back in the van and go and look for a second entrance. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
If we go out of the lane, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
turn left back the way we came... | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
-Yeah. -Oh, this is it, Yeah, look, look, look. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
This is exactly where we were knocking. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
They've found it, and it doesn't look like they'll have any problem | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
getting in after all. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
That gate will open. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
-Shall I go in that way? -Yes, please, mate, yeah. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Having finally found the premises, they head in to look for the owner, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
a woman called Anne Hawes. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Hello? | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Hello? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
-Hello? -Anybody around? | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
But the only signs of life are either equine... | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Horses. Big heads. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
..or canine. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
There's dogs here. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Hello, pups. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
They might be cute but the sheriffs didn't come here for puppies. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
-Hello? -There's no sign of anybody, is there? | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Deserted. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Where is everyone, Lawrence? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
-Don't know, mate. -Do you not think that's odd? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Someone has been here recently. Everything's open, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
there's half a dozen horses and the stables are clearly working. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Whether they've made themselves scarce after seeing the sheriffs | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
arrive, or just popped out for lunch, without making contact, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
there's not much Lawrence and Kev can do. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Feel like we're in the Walking Dead. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I can't believe there's nobody here. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
They're in a sticky situation. The animals and equipment here | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
could well belong to clients of the stables, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
and there's no way of knowing what, if anything, belongs to the debtor. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
-I don't think anyone's here, Lawrence. -I don't. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Lawrence has a number for the woman | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
who runs the place, but gets no answer. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
This is a message for Anne Hawes. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
My name is Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
I've got a High Court writ against West Sussex Livery. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
I'm actually at the stables at the moment. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Would you be able to ring me back, please, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
or return to the stables immediately, please, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
so that we can deal with this? Thank you. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Kev makes a final desperate plea to get someone's attention. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
HE BEEPS HORN | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
But even that goes unheard. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
It appears deserted but you wouldn't expect them to just disappear, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
so we're just going to sit here for a little while in case somebody | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
comes back. Or as is sometimes the case, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
on jobs like this, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
the first thing you know is the police turn up. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
People put in a call to the police saying "Oh, there's people on my | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
"land, there's people doing this, people doing that." | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
After waiting it out, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
there's still no sign of either the police or the debtor. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
And eventually, they have to call it a day. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
They take down the registration numbers of the vehicles here | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
so that they can run some checks. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
Lawrence prepares some paperwork, and with nowhere better to leave it, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Kev tucks it under the gate latch as they leave. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Anyone getting in is seeing that. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
The job might seem like it's a bit of a 'mare but, in fact, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
it turns out to be quite the opposite. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
While the sheriffs never managed to meet Ms Hawes in person, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
the paperwork does have the desired effect. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Shortly after their visit, she paid the £2,273 owing, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
and the claimant has finally got their money back. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
If you've won a County Court Judgment and haven't been paid, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
for £66, you can get the case transferred up to the High Court, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
My job is to collect in full or remove goods. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
They've got special powers of entry. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
And there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
£1.6 million. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
If they're successful, they'll recover your money and costs | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
from the debtor. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
Have you got the cash now, then? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
As well as their own fees, which are set by the government. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
-She's paid, the judgment is settled. -Thank you very much. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
If the sheriffs can't get your money, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Back in Barnet, Sheriff Ken Warby is still in a high-street locksmiths - | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
All Service For You Ltd - | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
trying to convince the boss to pay up £2,311. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
He says he's happy to pay the original court award, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
but not the extra fees incurred after he didn't pay and the case was | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
transferred to the sheriffs. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
He's adamant he's not going to pay our charges at all. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
He'll pay the debt, he's not going to pay our charges. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
He's spoken to his solicitor. His solicitor has advised him to pay. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
But he's still not having it, he's just being very stubborn. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
The police are still on their way because he says no-one's going | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
to be removing goods from here. Hopefully, when the police turn up, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
they will advise him that we can remove goods from here | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
and he'll pay the debt in full. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Sorry, sir. I'm going to have to crack on with this. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
So your charges will now apply, OK? You have been warned. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Ken calls for a removal truck... | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
meaning even more fees. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
And he begins to make an inventory of assets in the shop. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
But the boss isn't being very helpful. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
Let's start with the key machine over there. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
So, show me proof it's not yours. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
OK. And the stock, for example? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
OK. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
Not really, not if we can help it. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:55 | |
You sure have. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
Ken's not sure of a door lock's auction value, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
but he's likely to need a lot of them to get close to the value of | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
the debt. So he needs to list everything he can find. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
Only the boss isn't happy with him looking around. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
I can go wherever I want, mate. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
It's under the same roof. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
The man once again sends our camera outside... | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
..locks the doors and closes the shutters. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Ken puts another call in to the police. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
And they arrive shortly afterwards. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
Hello? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
Hello, it's the police. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Can you open the door, please? Thank you. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
The police are let in, and it's still a relatively good-natured | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
atmosphere inside. But as the boss continues to repeat | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
the same arguments Ken's been listening to for the past two and a half hours, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
patience is wearing thin. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
The eventual sight of the removal truck is welcome relief. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
Ken's hoping that will provide the incentive for the boss to pay. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
Come in when you're ready, mate. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
With a police escort, Ken and the removals man get to work. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
But even when faced with the prospect of an almost completely | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
empty store, the boss still doesn't cave in. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Now the police have arrived, now the removal guy's arrived, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
he's now claiming that there's other companies in here that own | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
certain things, so we're looking for invoices and stuff on that now as proof. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
It's looking at the moment like he's not going to pay it. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
He's digging his heels in, so I'm going to have to do the same. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
And so the excruciating task of comparing thousands of locks and | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
parts against individual receipts continues. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Finally, as the first box of his stuff is set down in the lorry, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
the boss reaches for his credit card and pays in full. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
The saga is finally over. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
He thought as soon as the police turn up that we would have to go. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
I started listing stuff inside, the guy turned up to remove them, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
and his bottle went. I knew he would pay in the end. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Despite a judge rejecting his appeal, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
the man is still convinced he's in the right. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
He says Mr Mullany tried to get the damage done to his door fixed after | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
their standard guarantee had expired. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
But he's not helped himself. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
By failing to pay when he was ordered to after the first court hearing, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
and again when Ken turned up this morning, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
his final bill is more than double the original judgment. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
He ended up paying a whopping... | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Drumroll... | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
£3,993.52. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
He's had full fees on there. Stupid, really, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
because all that could have been avoided. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
All he wanted to do was pay the debt. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
He didn't want to pay any of our charges at all. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
And the upshot was, he's ended up paying a hell of a lot more than | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
what I originally went in there for, to the tune of over £1,500. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
The boss might be wishing today had panned out differently, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
but back in Stockport, his customer, Pete Mullany, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
is more than happy with the outcome. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
I'm just over the moon, really relieved. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
The main thing now is to get this door repaired. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
If I'm honest with you, I would have done the door before but I genuinely | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
thought it might be used as evidence at some point. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
But I'm already intending to get a lad that I know quite well to come | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
and fix the door. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
I think everyone has a good laugh at it when they come in | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
now and see the state that it's in at the minute. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
While Ken's been embroiled in a stand-off at the locksmiths, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
in the Midlands, enforcement agents Craig Wild and Tommy Coyle have a | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
very different kind of job on their hands. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
They've got another writ of control for a company | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
which has fallen behind with payments to a supplier. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
We're in Leicester today. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Off to see a company called Freedom Clothing Ltd. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
The amount of money that's outstanding, just short of £11,000. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Freedom Clothing Ltd owes a debt to Jerseytex Ltd, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
who've gone to court to get their money. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Freedom Clothing didn't defend the case, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
so a default judgment was awarded against them. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
They now owe £10,909. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Tommy and Craig are on their way to collect. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
If they can find the place. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
Here we are, then. What are we looking for? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Freedom Clothing Ltd. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-It's number eight. -Is it? -Yeah. It's number eight. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
But when they can't find it, Craig has another look at the writ. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
-We're looking for number... -Nine. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
-Eh? -It's back there, behind us now. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
Despite Craig's best efforts, the sheriffs locate the premises. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
We're there, kid. We're there, kid. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
There's parking right outside as well. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
-Drop it here. -I'm dropping it under here, yeah. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
I think the gate's to the right, uh, to the left, mate, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
-we just saw. The back door. -Is this it? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Are you all right? Is it Freedom Clothing Ltd? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
-Yeah. -Enforcement agent. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Tommy heads to the office to tell the boss it's time to pay up. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
-You all right, guys? Yeah. -It's to do with a High Court order. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
-Yeah. -In the company name. -Yes. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
It's regarding Jerseytex Ltd, that's the creditor. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
You can speak to them... At the moment... | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
You paid it in full to them, did you? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
Yeah, at the moment, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
it's been issued as a High Court order and they've instructed us... | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-I can... -By all means, yeah. If you want to call them. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
There seems to be some confusion, but our camera is asked to leave | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
before Tommy can make sense of the man's story. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Inside, the company insists that they have an agreement with their | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
creditor and that they don't have to pay the sheriffs. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
But they're not going to just take his word for it. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
We haven't been notified of any arrangements. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
If it hasn't been paid and the claimant says that there's no | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
arrangement in place, then our instructions are to carry on. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
It's a small sort of textile workshop, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
with probably about 10-15 machines at the back. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
If they haven't got the funds, then we will be looking to remove it. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
Whatever arrangement Freedom Clothing Ltd might think | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
they have to clear their debt, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
from experience, the sheriffs know that in most cases like these, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
they've been called out because the debtor has failed to keep up with | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
payments. And sure enough, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
that's exactly what seems to have happened here. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
Director's on the phone to the claimant because he's claiming he | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
had some sort of arrangement in place. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
Tommy's spoken to the claimant and it transpired that the arrangement | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
they had in place, they've defaulted on, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
so they want us to carry on. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Their High Court writ means the sheriffs can now insist the debt's | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
paid off in full. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Given the valuable assets in the unit, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
and the company's previous failure to keep up with promised payments, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
they don't plan to settle for anything less. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
He's struggling to try and raise the money. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
And in my view, he hasn't made sufficient efforts at the moment. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
He's focusing his energies on trying to go back onto an arrangement | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
plan. Once we've actually focused his mind, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
I'm sure he'll actually be able to get the money together. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
The threat of his machines being removed soon does the trick. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
The boss provides evidence of a £2,500 payment | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
that he's already made, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
and once that's deducted from the bill, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
he manages to come up with the rest of the money. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
Yeah, it went pretty well. The gentleman was quite cooperative. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
He had already made a payment. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
It was just ironing out and making sure we could see evidence of that | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
payment he had already made to the claimant. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
If he could produce that, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
we actually had a quick conversation with the claimant as well, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
we verified this, but they specify the payment needs to be paid in full | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
and he needs to deal with ourselves. And that's what he did. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
He paid the balance in full. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Which was a £5,500 transfer and £3,000 in cash. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
The supplier will now get the money they're owed. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 |