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-Meet the sheriffs. -My name's Mr Grix, my colleagues and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-It's to do with a High Court order. -They work for the High Court, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and if it says you're owed money, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
-They can demand payment on the spot. -I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
-How are you going to pay it? -Or remove assets instead. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
The car will be going, unless you can pay it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-I wouldn't do that if I was you. -The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Every year in England and Wales, unpaid debts totalling more | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
than £80 million are recovered by the sheriffs. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
Coming up... Louise Alderson bought a second-hand car which was | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
a deathtrap. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
The back wheels were only holding on by one wheel nut, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
the side impact bars weren't there. I am lucky to be alive. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
But when the sheriffs visit the dealer, it all kicks off. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Lawrence discovers his claimant's not the only one owed money. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Now that you've told me that, if this isn't paid, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
I'm going to be pulling the shutters down and changing the locks. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Ken's got a writ for a multinational giant. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Look at the size of these buildings! It looks like Cape Canaveral. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
And Lawrence gets tired of being messed around by a beautician. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Half an hour later, she's still on her way. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
And I'm being told one thing and then another. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
The sheriffs' success is often down to their ability to take | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
control of a debtor's goods to use as leverage until they pay up. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
A common ruse used by debtors is to claim their stuff belongs to | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
someone else. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
But the sheriffs don't take that at face value, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
and will always do what they can to get to the truth. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Today in the West Midlands, Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild's | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
investigative skills are about to be tested. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
We're going back to a job where we've been to before. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
It's a car pound. When we went before, we left notification of our attendance. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
They haven't responded to our paperwork, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
so we're back here again. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
The debtor deals in second-hand cars, and the claimant in the case | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
is the Louise Alderson, a teacher who came across | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
the company when she was looking for a new car to get her to work. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
My old car had done quite a lot of mileage, it was getting to | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
the point where it probably needed a lot of repair work. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
I was looking for another Ford Fiesta. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
And when I spotted a lovely car advertised in Auto Trader, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
it looked really sporty and really attractive. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
And I'd just got married | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
and my husband said, "Yeah, spoil yourself." | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
So Louise went to have a look... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and was initially underwhelmed by the dealership. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
My first impression was that actually, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
this isn't what I was expecting, it was in the middle of an | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
industrial estate, there was a tip nearby. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
And it didn't have a proper office. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
So I was immediately put off by that, but then when I saw the car | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
and saw how lovely it was, and the man, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
the sales guy I spoke to, he came across as very friendly and | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
very genuine, very honest, so that changed my mind. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
The Fiesta was £6,000, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
reduced to £5,000 with the part exchange of her old car. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
She took out a loan to pay for it, and drove it away. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
But it wasn't long before she experienced the first sign of trouble. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
About ten miles, maybe 15 miles away, on the way home, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
the engine warning light came on. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
So I pulled over, phoned them up and said this is what's happened, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
and he basically said, "Turn the engine off and turn it back | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
"on again, and I assure you it won't come back on." And it didn't. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
But when the same thing happened the following day, Louise began | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
to get worried and took the car to a Ford specialist to check it over. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
They found that the car had been badly repaired | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
following an accident. And there was a catalogue of problems. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
The welding had been done incorrectly, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
the brake pipe was severely bent. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
The fan... The wiring for the brakes was actually hanging into the fan, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
and all of the electrics, most of them, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
had been disconnected, so it didn't even have air conditioning. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It was a shock. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
A, I was very emotionally upset, and B, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I'd just spent the money, couldn't afford, needed a car for | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
work and was thinking, "What on earth am I going to do?" | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
What she did was get straight on the phone to the dealers. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
They told me that the actual owner was away...abroad at the time. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:43 | |
And we'd have to wait until the following Monday until he was back. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
That Monday came and went, no call. I phoned them. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
They still said, "Oh, no, he's still not here, you'll have to wait." | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And it was a continuum of that, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
my husband tried to ring them and speak to them as well. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
However, they just kept fobbing me off. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Frustrated, Louise called Trading Standards. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
They sent out an independent vehicle inspector, who found even more | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
problems with the car. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
The back wheels were only holding on by one wheel nut. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
He found there had been other damage, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
the side impact bars weren't there. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
He actually said I was very lucky to be alive. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
And that's how I do feel, that I am lucky to be alive. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Yet even with this damning verdict on the car's dangerous condition, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
the garage still wouldn't commit to giving her a refund. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
It was just a continuum of, "Where's the car, we want the car, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
"meet the car, we'll send somebody out to get the car." | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
But never at any point promising to actually pay for it | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
at the same time as well. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
And my husband and I had decided that the one thing that we were | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
adamant about not happening was for that car to go back on the road. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
So, Louise pursued the dealership through the county courts. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
They didn't defend the case, and she was awarded a default judgment, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
requiring the company to pay her back, plus costs. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
They didn't, and now Louise has turned to the sheriffs as | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
a last resort. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
The whole thing has been such an ordeal, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I've had sleepless nights, I've been ill through it. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
All I can hope is that the sheriffs can get some money back for | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
this for me, because if they can't do it, nobody can. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Last time the sheriffs visited the dealership, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
they found a large lot full of vehicles. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
However, it was locked up and no-one was around, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
so all they could do was leave a letter. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Today, they're back, and it already looks more promising. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-It's open. -Are you ready? | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
So it is open, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
we're going to go straight in now and hopefully confront these people. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Again, there are plenty of cars in the yard, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
and this time the sheriffs have no problem finding someone to speak to. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-Good morning. -How are you? -Not too bad, mate. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-He'll explain it. -Hello, sir, Mr Wild. -Sheriff one, sheriff two. -Is the boss about? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-He is not here at the moment. -Can he be contacted? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
We need to get him on the phone, basically. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
They don't seem surprised to see the sheriffs, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and manage to get the company director on the phone. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
It's to do with the High Court writ that's been issued against | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
the company for £8,627.07, as it stands at the moment. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
Obviously they've sent us out, they've sent us out to execute this court writ today. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
And it sounds like he's making all the noises Craig likes to hear. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
Right. Brilliant. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
-Lovely. -Sounds positive. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
It seems that it could be... he's just sorting it out. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Maybe he got the letter before. So, it could be getting sorted. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Actually, the situation isn't quite as straightforward as Tommy is hoping. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
The director doesn't want to pay, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and says the sheriffs can't touch the cars here. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
He's saying that all the stock belongs to another limited company, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
and they're supplying us now more documentation for the cars here. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
In other words, none of the assets here belong to the debtor. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
If so, then the sheriffs will more than likely have to leave | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
empty-handed, but they're not going to just take his word for it. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
So what we need to do, we'll just make a list now. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-If we can tick them off. -OK. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
There may be dozens of cars here, but the sheriffs plan to | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
check every single one against the paperwork the director provides. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
So they start noting the registration numbers of the cars. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
DY09. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
FG56. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
FG56. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
WP07. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
It's like a maze getting through here, a maze of cars. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
It's going to take some time, but as they only need to find a few | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
decent cars belonging to the debtor company, it might be worth it. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Just when they're getting stuck in, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Craig's interrupted by a phone call from his office. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
The director has sent in some paperwork as promised, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
but it only serves to convince the sheriffs they're on the right track. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
We've had an e-mail in straight away from the director, but they only | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
list two cars, which I don't think are even here, to be fair. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
Meanwhile, perhaps unsure themselves of what stock is here, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
the employees are making a list of their own. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
They're taking their own lists. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
If they can supply the evidence that it was bought and paid for by | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
a third-party company, rather than our company, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
then we'll be satisfied with that and then we'll walk away. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
If they can't supply that, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
then clearly we'll take it to the next level. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Later, tempers flare as the sheriffs up the ante. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Mind that egg. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
Your cameraman! | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
If this balance isn't paid, then we are instructed to remove these vehicles. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Using the county courts to try to recover money you're owed | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
isn't difficult. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
1.5 million money claims are made every year in England and Wales, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship to unpaid invoices. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
And you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
If you're successful, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
a County Court Judgment, or CCJ, will be issued against the debtor. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
And if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The sheriffs are often called upon to visit companies | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
with cash-flow problems who are struggling to pay their bills. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Jobs like these can be tricky, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
as the sheriffs are tasked with getting payments for their clients, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
but they'd rather not put anyone out of business in the process. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
This morning, enforcement agent Lawrence Grix is visiting | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
a company in Kent. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
We're in the Garden of England today, just near Tonbridge. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
Going to a company called MetCon Sustainable Building Systems. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
It looks like, basically, they haven't paid one of their suppliers. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
MetCon Sustainable Building Ltd has been taken to court by | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
a supplier which sold them some steel. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
They didn't defend the case, and so a default judgment was awarded. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
MetCon now owes £5,934. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
It is a trading address. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
And it's a limited company, so hopefully there'll be some assets there. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
And we'll be able to get this resolved. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
But as he pulls up outside the premises, Lawrence is disappointed. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
First impressions, it doesn't look like they've got a lot here, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
to be honest. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
There's a pick-up that's sign-written. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Lawrence, however, is never one to prejudge a situation... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
and heads inside in search of a manager. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Hello there, sir. Is this MetCon Sustainable Building Systems? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Lawrence is ushered through to a warehouse. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Who's in charge at the moment? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Where he explains to the staff the purpose of his visit. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
I'm asking who's in charge here at the moment. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
I've got a High Court writ against this company. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Pretty soon he's handed the director on the phone. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
The director, it seems, knows all about the debt. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
He says the company owes money to a number of people and is | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
trying to agree a repayment plan. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
You've sent a proposal for a company voluntary arrangement? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
You say you have got an insolvency practitioner involved, yeah? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Right, so have you sent the proposal to all your other creditors? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
The business has applied for what's known as | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
a company voluntary arrangement. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
That's a legally binding agreement which helps a company with | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
cash-flow problems gradually pay off its debts while continuing to trade. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Such an arrangement would prevent Lawrence enforcing today. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
But it has to be approved by 75% of the company's creditors first, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
and that hasn't yet happened. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
Now that you've told me that, it actually doesn't put you in | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
a better position, it puts you in a worse position. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
It means I've got to act today to secure this debt for our claimant. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
The company may owe money to a number of parties, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
but Lawrence is working for only one of them. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
What I'm going to do, because there's so much stuff here, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and it's difficult to remove, I am now going to call | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
a locksmith and I'm going to secure the premises. I'm going to change the locks, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
secure the premises and take control of goods on the premises. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
That's my only option. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Unless, of course, the director is able to pay instead. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
The amount due is £5,934.69. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:50 | |
If I end up having to secure the premises, basically there's | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
going to be another £1,800 plus VAT go onto that. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
OK, then, sir. Thanks, bye-bye. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Apparently he'd sent a letter to our creditor proposing an | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
arrangement last Friday. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
But they've sent the same letter to all the different creditors, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
which basically, from my point of view, escalates it, because it | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
now means that I've got to protect our creditor's interest. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
And that means getting paid first before anyone else gets | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
a slice of the pie. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
It might seem like Lawrence's threat of bringing down the shutters | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
is going nuclear, but it seems to be working. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
He said give him 20 minutes, so I think he's now focused his | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
mind a little bit and he's going to try and come up with the money. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
20 minutes later, the director does indeed call back. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
This time asking for bank details. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Right, it's NatWest bank. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
But just as it appears to be heading in the right direction, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
progress stalls. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
No payment is made, and the director keeps asking for more time. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Another hour passes, and Lawrence is running out of patience. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
I got the gentleman here to phone the director again, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
and he said, "Give him another 15 minutes." | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
It's been another 15 minutes, he's trying him again now. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
He's also tried to get a shareholder, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
who apparently is the money man, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
but he's not answering his phone at the moment. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
Not been able to get him, no? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Although the company seem keen to pay, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Lawrence is once again forced to consider his options. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
But while he could carry out his threat of securing the premises, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
he's not confident it would result in getting his claimant's money. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
There's not much in the way of assets here, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
it's mainly raw materials, and the preformed bits of building | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
that they've already made, which, really, would only be worth scrap value. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
There is a machine for folding the steel, folds it into a | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
three-quarter box, which apparently they're about £200,000 new. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
Well, obviously this isn't new, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
and unless there's somebody who specifically wants to buy it, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
we'd probably be looking at scrap value for it, to be honest. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
There is the sign-written pick-up, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
but the rest of the vehicles here appear to belong to the staff. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
-So that white Transit's yours as well, is it? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
But then, finally, Lawrence gets another call. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
-This time from the company's shareholder. -Hello, sir. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Lawrence is hoping he will understand the urgency of the situation. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
I've been here since 11:45, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
so I think I've been more than patient so far. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
I have got to execute this writ to its fullest NOW. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
If this isn't paid, I'm going to be pulling the shutters down and | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
changing the locks to secure all the assets on site, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
and we will then conduct an on-site auction. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
It doesn't matter where you are in the world, sir, if you've got | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
the funds to make a payment, it can be done from anywhere. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
That's me. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
I'm the good-looking one with the goatee beard. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
It seems the message has sunk in. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
He's on holiday in Cornwall at the moment. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
You could actually hear seagulls in the background when I spoke to him. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
So he said he's not in a position to actually deal with it himself. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
But he's going to phone his daughter. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
I'm a bit more confident there's going to be some money coming now. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
He apologised for the delay. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
I'll give him a few more minutes just to make a couple of phone calls. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
He's seen the programme, so he knows how it works! | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
So, yeah, hopefully it's going to get resolved shortly. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
It does. Lawrence soon confirms with his office that a payment has been made. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
Brilliant, cheers. Bye. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
I shall issue you a receipt. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
My favourite bit. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
We got paid in full in the end. Good job, really. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
No aggression, everybody here was amicable. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
There you go. Thanks very much. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
I'm pleased, certainly for the guys here, that I didn't have to... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
didn't have to lock the doors, which obviously is one of the main | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
reasons, I think, it got paid, because they wanted to keep | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
the business going and keep the guys employed, so that's it. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
We're out of here. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Cheers, mate. See you later. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
And you. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Lawrence is on his way, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
and the steel supplier who hadn't been paid has now got its money. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
MetCon Sustainable Building Systems Ltd's application to enter a | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
company voluntary arrangement with its creditors has now been successful. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
In the West Midlands, Tommy and Craig are at a used-car dealers | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
who owe just over £8,500 to Louise Alderson, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
who bought a car from them which was too dangerous to drive. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
The boss of the business claims all the cars on the forecourt | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
today belong to another company. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
But he's not here, and so far has e-mailed through paperwork for just two of them. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:51 | |
Now Craig's office have rung to say he's sent two more. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
So he's supplied those four. But no others yet. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
So those four are obviously exempt. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Sheriffs are entitled to do a diligent search of | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
a debtor's premises. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
While they wait for the paperwork to trickle in, Craig has a look | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
through the filing cabinet to see if he can speed the process up. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
The first thing he finds is a sales ledger. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
The Renault Megane, right there - £2,560. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Good price... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
for you. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
MAN LAUGHS | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
It's not long before he discovers some more interesting information - | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
logbooks and sales invoices. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
One immediately catches his attention. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
This document here says "purchased from the third-party company", | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
and this is for a Subaru that's outside, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
but it's only an 02 plate, and we're after 8,000 quid. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
There's some of these other vehicles as well. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
The document shows that one of the cars outside was bought FROM | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
the very company the sheriffs were told owns everything here. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Something isn't stacking up. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Before long, Craig's identified a number of other vehicles too, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
and the sheriffs step outside the cabin to confer in private. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
-We've got an '09 Renault Clio. These are all here. -Mm-hm. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
The logbooks are in there and the keys are in there as well, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
so the game might be up soon. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Seize this paperwork, then, yeah? They ain't having it back. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Craig reckons if these vehicles don't belong to the other company, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and they're up for sale in the debtor's yard, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
then they must belong to the debtor. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Confident they're onto a winner, Tommy takes all the keys and | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
documents he can from the cabin and locks them in his van. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Craig calls up the director and gets straight to the point. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
My office have instructed me to let you know that, obviously, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
if this balance isn't paid, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
then we're instructed to remove these vehicles. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
The director still claims the vehicles belong to someone else. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Sir, I'm not here to argue. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
If you can't provide evidence - | 0:20:55 | 0:20:56 | |
further evidence, because we've got the evidence here - | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
these vehicles will be removed today. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Unless, of course, he's willing to pay. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
OK, so the choice is yours. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
The balance stands at £8,627.07. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
I need an answer from you, and if you want to pay this bill or not. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
That'll be a no, then, yeah? Right. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
It looks like this is about to become a removal job, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
and just as they start making the calls, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
a third man arrives in the office. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
-Hello, my friend. -I don't want no camera in here. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
You've got to get out. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
-No, no, no. -We're here for the, erm... | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
I don't want no camera in my face, mate, so get out, please. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Yeah, yeah... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
Although it's not clear who he is, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
one thing that is certain is he's not pleased to see us. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
He tells the cameraman to leave, but then follows him to the road | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and unleashes an extraordinary tirade of abuse. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-White -BLEEP. -Listen, yeah? You dirty -BLEEP. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
You feel me? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
-I'll smack your head all over the floor, you white -BLEEP. BLEEP! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Have that for the BBC. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
-BLEEP -dirty -BLEEP. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Feel me? You know what? | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
-Dirty -BLEEP! | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Pleased with himself, he heads back to the hut | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
and, shortly afterwards, drives off... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Out my way, mate! | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
..but not without once again making known his feelings | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
towards the camera. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
Don't film me, mate. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
And he's not done yet - | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
ten minutes later, the same man is back, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
this time with a friend in tow, and armed. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
With eggs. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
All right, all right... Lads... | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-MEN LAUGH -That man got egged! | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
The men run off, still hurling abuse. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Yeah, you're on camera, mate! | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
MAN YELLS INDISTINCTLY | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
As they leave, one throws a rock. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-Come on, then, you -BLEEP! | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
What connection, if any, they have to the dealership is unclear, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
and the salesman left behind takes a very different approach. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Are you OK? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Tommy, meanwhile, is unfazed. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
We've just been attacked with eggs, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
and they're trying to film it and stuff, so just... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
They look like young lads being idiots, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
but we're going to get the police here now, cos assault's happened. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
It's a bit unfortunate, but part of the job. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
The cameraman's coat's come off worse for wear, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
but luckily no-one's hurt... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
More of it's on your head, mate. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
..and the men have vanished by the time the police arrive. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Are you all right? It's just that they've ran off. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
-They jumped our cameraman, basically... -OK. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
..smashed eggs on him, started throwing rocks at him. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
-A rock just skimmed his head. -OK. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
-And we got you... Obviously, we called you guys. -All right. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
After speaking to our cameraman, the police head into the cabin. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
They're just going to make a bit of an investigation. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
There was threats made of...that they were going to petrol-bomb us, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
and that they were going to come back, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
so obviously we have to take these things seriously, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
especially the fact they were throwing rocks. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Craig, meanwhile, has made some progress - | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
a friend of the director arrived during the disturbance on the road. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
He's now leaving, but it seems he wants to get the debt paid. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Luckily for us, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
a friend arrived and managed to talk round the situation to him, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
and it's more cost-effective to pay it now and challenge it later, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
which is exactly what he's going to try and do, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
so, as we speak now, the money's on its way. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
We'll be about another half an hour, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
so we're just getting the receipt ready, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
so, as soon as it turns up, we can count it and be on our way. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Satisfied the situation has calmed down, the police leave, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
and soon word comes through that the money is ready for collection. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
One of the salesmen goes to pick it up. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
When he returns 45 minutes later, the sheriffs are expectant. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Oh, look, he's got an envelope. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
-Have we got it? Yeah? -There we go. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Have you got the money? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-No money? -No. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
-No money at all? -No, man. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
-Well, where did you go? -TOMMY LAUGHS | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
The man has returned empty-handed. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
That's wasting our time, now - it's as simple as that. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
He said he was going to get the money. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Quite what has caused the apparent change of heart isn't clear, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
but Craig no longer cares, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and once again gets the director on the phone. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Your man's come back without the money, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
so my office has just told us to start removing the vehicles now. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
There's six vehicles to have away. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
No problem, then, sir. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Done now? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
"Do so as you wish," he said, so that's fine by me. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
All right, then, Tommy-boy, let's get these cars done now, shall we? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Later, the job goes right up to the wire, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
as the company makes more promises of payment. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Here we go. He's back. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Is it...? Have you got the cash now, then? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Let's have a look at it. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:44 | |
When debtors can't pay on the spot... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I'm assuming that you haven't got £5,000. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
..the sheriffs won't always remove assets to get your money. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
Goods go for about a fifth of their true value at auction, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and it's often better to agree to a payment plan. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
If you can come up with half of it today... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Do you reckon you can do 200 a week? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
They'll make a list of assets... | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
They've got an ice machine, bar-chilling cabinets... | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Television, PlayStation... | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
..and a controlled goods agreement is signed, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
making it an offence for anyone else to remove them... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
When you sign the form, it acts as security. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
..and the sheriffs will only return to take the goods if the debtor | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
fails to make payments. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I've signed him up for £1,000 a month. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Providing you stick to that, you won't hear from us again. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Cases the sheriffs take on come in all shapes and sizes. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
Debts start at £600, but can reach well into the millions, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
and the debtors are anything from one man and his dog | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
to huge corporations. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
For enforcement agent Ken Warby, today's first job is the latter. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Well, this morning, we are off to a company called Procter & Gamble - | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
huge company, soaps and toothpastes and suchlike, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
distributing to many of the big superstores. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
To be specific, Ken's writ is for a division of the corporation | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
called Procter & Gamble Product Supply UK Limited, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
which owes a man £3,108 in legal costs... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
..but Ken's not fazed by the company's stature. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I prefer the bigger companies, actually. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Yeah. They look after you. Usually got... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
They usually offer you a cup of tea. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
They also shouldn't have a problem coming up with a few grand, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
but how straightforward it'll be is likely to boil down to what | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
exactly is at the address he's been given, which is in Essex. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
I think this is an office premises we're going to visit, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
so there should be some assets there. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
I would imagine, a company of this size, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
they will have a head office that would do any payments, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
so I wouldn't imagine the payment would probably come from here. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
But as Ken approaches his destination, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
it becomes clear it's not what he was expecting. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
"P&G London". | 0:28:13 | 0:28:14 | |
I think we're going in the right direction. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Instead of a small office with a car park, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
his sat nav has led him to a sprawling industrial site. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Look at the size of these buildings! Look at the size of them! | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
They all seem to be Procter & Gamble, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
and Ken's got no idea where he's going. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
There's no signs up or anything. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
Where would the office be? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
It's got to be around here somewhere. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
I... I can smell soap. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Eventually, he's directed to a car park outside a chemical plant. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
It looks like Cape Canaveral. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
What kind of assets he could possibly remove from | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
a place like this isn't clear. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Still, he tracks down reception and heads in, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
but before he can utter a word... | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Erm... No, sir. Can you turn that off? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
..our cameraman's asked to leave. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Inside, Ken begins the task of retrieving the claimant's money. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
He knows all too well that turning up unannounced at the doors | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
of huge companies often causes confusion. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Half the battle is usually finding someone on site who knows | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
about the debt or has the authorisation to make a payment. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
This time, Ken gets lucky, and the reception staff manage to | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
track someone down who knows about the case - | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
even better, they agree to pay it. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
So far, so good - | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
only, it turns out not to be that simple. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Two hours after walking in, Ken comes back out empty-handed. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
They've tried to make the payment by American Express. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Unfortunately, we don't take American Express, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
and they are the only cards that they've got on the premises. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
So we've had to wait around for the office to contact their head office, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:57 | |
that isn't here, to make a bank transfer or an alternative card. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
Hopefully they'll do it. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Ken's hardly worried about the company's ability to pay. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Although the name on his writ is for one of its UK subsidiaries, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Procter & Gamble is an American multinational giant, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
with a turnover running into many billions of pounds, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
but, after being here two hours, Ken would rather not have to wait | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
much longer for payment, and he doesn't have to. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
The head office have been able to access another card, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
not an Amex card, and the payment's gone through. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
It all went smoothly, really. I didn't have to raise my voice. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
They knew from the off that they owed the money. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
And that means Ken never had to seriously consider removing | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
assets from the chemical plant, although he did threaten it. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
I told them my intentions were to list items and have them removed. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
It's not going to happen for a small debt | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
for a company of this size. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
If it was, it would end up a right soap story. Excuse the pun. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
Back in the south-east, Lawrence is in the van, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
on his way to enforce another debt. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
He's looking for a businesswoman who, it seems, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
hasn't paid some of her invoices. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
We're in west London. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
We've got a writ against a lady called Nara Simonyan, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
trading as Nara Health & Beauty, so we're off to a beauty parlour. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
It looks quite big. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:20 | |
The lady owes £2,200 or thereabouts, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
and it's for multimedia marketing which she hasn't paid for. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
The marketing firm has taken Miss Simonyan to court, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
and when she didn't defend the case, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
awarded a judgment against her by default. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
She now owes a grand total of £2,201. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
Lawrence pulls up outside the salon and goes in. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Hello there. Good morning. I'm looking for Nara Simonyan. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
She's not in yet. Are you able to get her on the phone at all? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
I'll show you some identification as well. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
My name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
I've got a High Court writ to execute against Nara, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
so it's vital that I speak to her. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
The staff member manages to get through to | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Miss Simonyan straight away, and Laurence is handed the phone. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
Thank you. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Hello there. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
I've got a High Court writ today against you. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
I believe it's for unpaid multimedia marketing. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
OK, I'm here today to take control of goods to the value of £2201.10. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:42 | |
Yes, goods which can be removed and sold at auction. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
You're going to do that now, yeah? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
OK. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Thank you. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:57 | |
So far, so good. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Well, she's immediately said, "Oh, don't take anything. I'll pay." | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
She said it might take about half an hour, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:05 | |
and then she's going to let them know here | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
once she's made the payment. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
-She said she's going to contact you when she's done it... -OK. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
..and I'll be able to check with my office. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
It looks like a textbook job, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
but several minutes later there seems to be a change of plan. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Is she coming here now, is she? | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
So, how far...? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Oh, she's really close, is she? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Not as far as I'm concerned - I've got a High Court writ. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Miss Simonyan's belief that the matter is still in court is | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
a worrying development for Lawrence, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
especially when, after another 30 minutes waiting around, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
there's no sign of either the debtor or the money. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
A half-hour later, she's still on her way, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
it's going to be 15 minutes, and the case is back in court. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
It's... | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
No, it doesn't... It doesn't bode well. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I don't like being told one thing and then another. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
And soon the staff weighed in, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
saying the matter is still in dispute, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and they don't think their boss should have to pay. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Lawrence tries to set them straight. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
The judgment was entered. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
She didn't pay it, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
so they've transferred it to the High Court for enforcement purposes. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
It's not still in the court. It's not still in the court. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
There is a High Court writ. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
She may have a hearing at the court, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
but whatever she's done to get that hearing hasn't affected the writ. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Lawrence is beginning to wonder whether Miss Simonyan | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
really is going to pay, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
and starts to consider his options in case she doesn't. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Yeah, I know, I'm just having a look round. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
I'm not removing anything yet. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
But she said, initially, she was making the payment, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
and now she's coming here, so... | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
In an effort to lighten the mood, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:58 | |
the staff offer to do Lawrence's nails while he waits, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
but he's not convinced he needs their help. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
I cut my fingernails regularly, with my teeth. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Besides, there may not be time to rectify the damage done by | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
Lawrence's hand-care techniques. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
All right. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
Apparently, the debtor is actually in the bank now. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
So...hopefully she's making the payment. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
She is, and soon confirmation comes through in the form of | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
a photo of the paying-in slip. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
-Looks clear enough. Are you able to text that to me? -Yeah. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
Ms Simonyan has paid the £2,200 owing | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
and Lawrence makes a hasty retreat... | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Goodbye. -Bye. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
..before anyone can suggest a facial. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
That went quite smoothly in the end, really. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
There was a phone call saying she was on her way and the case | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
was back in court, et cetera, et cetera, so, for a while, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
I thought she was coming down to have an argument rather than pay | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
but then it turns out she was in the bank all along. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Texted over a photo of the paying-in slip to one of her friends | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
in there and the payment was in. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
The marketing company whose invoices went unpaid will now get | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
the money they're owed. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
Back in the West Midlands, Tommy and Craig are still at the car dealers. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
They've been there for four hours hoping to collect more than | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
£8,500 on behalf of a customer, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Louise Alderson, who was sold a dangerous second-hand car. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
It's been a very tense day. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
We've been pelted with eggs... | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
MEN LAUGH | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
..and rocks... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
..by two young men whose connection to the garage is unclear. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Don't film me, mate! | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
Meanwhile, the boss finally agreed to pay, before his courier | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
turned up without the cash. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
-No money. -No. -No money at all? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
Enough is enough. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
And the sheriffs have now ordered low loaders to come and remove | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
a total of six cars from the yard. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
So, the money hasn't arrived, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
I think what they're trying to do is just blag for time, I think. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
I spoke to my office, they're organising the transport | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
now and then we'll take it from there. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Tommy parks the van in the entrance to prevent anyone from trying to | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
shut the gates. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
As he does so, he spots a car waiting in the street outside. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
-I think them lads are back here. -In that car, are they? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
I think that's them, yeah. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
It's not clear who's in the car or what, if anything, they plan to do. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Either way, it is clear the tension of this job is getting to everyone. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
No money has arrived and it's cold. Freezing. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
I need to go home, I need to lie down. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
But after another chat with his boss, the man says they're | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
struggling to raise the money and comes forward with an offer. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
-OK. -Yes, my friend? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Is there no possibility at all you can take half the money now | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
and take the other half on a bank transfer or something? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I can't help you, my friend. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
After four tense hours here, and with a bunch of cars they could | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
remove, the sheriffs are in no mood whatsoever to do a half-price deal. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
I don't really believe what they're saying, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
especially the way they've messed us around now. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
It's going to go to removal so we're looking to get the six cars gone. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
The car outside, at least, has gone without any further mischief. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
The prospect of vehicles being imminently removed is definitely | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-making the company's attempts to raise the cash more urgent. -Hello? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
The problem is, now that six low loaders are on the way, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
they'll have to pay for those too. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
-250 plus the VAT times six. -Six... | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
-1,800 quid, isn't it? -Yeah. Just coming up 1,800 quid. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
-How long has he got before... -Done. The truck's on the way. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
It's kind of too late, isn't it, now? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
You had the chance over an hour ago. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
What can you do? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
They don't want to pay the extra fees, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
and in an effort to get the removal called off, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
again promise that someone's on the way with cash. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
He's going to be back in 15 minutes maximum. Cancel it, yes? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
-I can't cancel it. -No, no... You have to. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
I can't. How long have we been here? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
-I know, I know, I know, I understand that. -I ain't cancelling it. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
I'm not cancelling it at all. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Craig is no longer interested in promises, only payment. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
As far as he's concerned, it's just a case of waiting to see | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
which turns up first, the removal trucks or the money. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Here we go, he's back. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It's the staff member who was sent for the money the last time | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
but came back empty-handed. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
What's going to happen now? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Is it... Have you got the cash there now? How much have you got? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
-Got £8,927. -Let's have a look at it. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
He says he's come back with £300 more than the sheriffs asked for at | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
the beginning of the day. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
But that's now not enough, because of the extra fees. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Craig calls his office. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Lawrence, there's a whole bundle of cash here now, which is 8,900 quid. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:24 | |
How much do we need to call this all to a halt? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
According to Lawrence, so far only one removal truck has | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
actually set off, so they'll settle for just one cancellation fee. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
Yeah, cheers, mate. Ta-ra, goodbye. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Which means, provided the cash adds up, this job might finally be over. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
44 20s... | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13... | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
All looking good so far. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
The gentleman has paid, at the moment, £8,900. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
And with the contents of the salesman's pocket... | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
-I've got 70 as well. -Thank you, my friend. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
..they've come up with enough to satisfy the writ and the sheriffs. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
The tow trucks are called off, Craig finishes writing out the receipt | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
he started two hours ago and Tommy gives back their keys and paperwork. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
They've earned these back now. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
All your keys and all the logbooks. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Take care of yourself. Yeah, sorry about any misunderstanding. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
-No, it's fine. -Sorry about the... | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
I do apologise and have a safe journey home. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-Yeah, and you, you take care of yourself, mate. -OK. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
It's taken all day, but with the job finally in the bag, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
the sheriffs are all smiles. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
So, a massive ordeal for us today, bit of drama with the police, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
but finally we won the battle. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
It ended up being exactly what we wanted in the end. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
The debtor company later appealed the judgment against them | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
but a judge rejected their case | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
and Louise was finally given back her money. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
If the sheriffs were here now, I'd give them all a big hug and a | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
kiss because they've done an amazing job. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
I never thought anyone would be able to get the money, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
it's just fantastic news. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
And it didn't end there. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Trading Standards subsequently prosecuted the business for | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
misdescribing the Fiesta in their advert and for selling Louise | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
a dangerous and unroadworthy vehicle. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
They were fined a total of £7,500. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
The best outcome was that the car had a destruction order on it | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
and therefore that car will never get back on the road. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
For Louise, it's the end of a long ordeal. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
I'm absolutely relieved, and now it's over, yes, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
maybe I can start to relax and look forward to | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
one day buying a new car when I feel more confident about doing so. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 |