Episode 6 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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Meet the sheriffs.

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My name is Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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We are here with a High Court order today.

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They work for the High Court, and if a judge says

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you're owed money, it's the sheriffs' job to go and get it.

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-All the keys!

-I'm going to be calling a locksmith.

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They can demand payment on the spot...

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What can you pay us now?

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-You're going to get the cash, are you?

-Are you paying the bill?

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..or remove assets instead.

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You've got 30 minutes to make the payment...

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Or we'll start removing stuff from the building.

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You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence.

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I wouldn't do that if I were you.

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-Don't lie to me.

-No mess tins.

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Every year, sheriffs in England and Wales

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recover unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million.

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Coming up... When Rob and Gerald visit a restaurant, tempers flare...

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We are going to call our community

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and there will be a big fight, do you hear?

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..and they're forced to call the police.

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Right, do me a favour, mate.

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Do not touch my camera, right?

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Steve Flowers splashed out £2,000 on parts for his pride and joy.

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When you speak to the guy, and he's all sort of genial,

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and then you find out that he's just shafted you.

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When Lawrence and Kev hunt down the man who took Steve's money,

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he's not pleased to see our camera.

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A minicab company say they can't pay their debt,

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so Andy and Adie start hunting for assets.

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Anything in the safe?

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We will ask the director to open that up.

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And when Tracy and Adam have a writ for a pharmacy,

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it's their van that needs treatment.

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Somebody's stuck a brick through the van window.

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Restaurants and bars are three times more likely

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than other UK businesses to go bust.

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It's a notoriously difficult industry to be successful in.

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So, it's no surprise that many ventures end up in debt,

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and then find the sheriffs at their doors.

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It's early evening in November.

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And Rob Foster and Gerald Anderson

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are on their way to a fish restaurant.

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Going to the Shepherd's Bush part of London today.

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Looking for a company called Pacific Blue Ocean Ltd.

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The claimants have carried out

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some drainage maintenance for the company,

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and, obviously, haven't been paid.

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The maintenance company took Pacific Blue Ocean Ltd to court

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but they didn't defend it, and the restaurant was ordered to pay up,

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but they still haven't.

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So, now, it's in the hands of Rob and Gerald.

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So, we're there now to enforce the writ

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for the amount of just over £1,000.

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For the sheriffs, a restaurant presents some challenges -

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not least that when they're open,

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they tend to be full of customers

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and there's often no chance

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of a private conversation with the owners.

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Their job is still the same as usual,

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uphold the law by collecting payment or taking control of goods.

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Before that, Rob and Gerald's thoughts turn to their stomachs.

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My favourite, I'd say, is cod and chips with gravy.

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Gravy?! Not entirely sure how people do that, it's got to be curry.

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Certainly not gravy.

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As they approach the address on the writ, Rob spots the business.

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Says it's on our right here.

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There it is, Blue Ocean.

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They head in to tell Pacific Blue Ocean Ltd

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it's time to settle their debt.

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It's 4.50 pm, the restaurant is open,

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and there are already diners at some tables.

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-How do!

-We're enforcement agents from the sheriff's office.

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There's my identification.

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We've got a High Court writ. Is the owner about?

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Can you ring him?

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You're going to have to ring him.

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It doesn't look like that's going to happen very quickly.

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Is he going to call him, is he?

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I'm assuming so. He seems to be making his coffee.

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I need to speak to the owner.

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There's still no sign

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that anyone is going to call the company director, Mr Harid.

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But a woman appears from the back.

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Are you the owner?

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We need to get hold of Mr Harid,

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because it either needs to be paid or we're removing goods.

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She says the restaurant hasn't received any notification

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of the debt and can't deal with it now.

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You've had letters sent out, the court's sent letters out.

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We've sent a notice of enforcement out.

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We've had no response.

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Rob wants the woman to understand how serious the situation is.

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We don't just leave a letter and go.

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We'll take all the assets with us, including the entire kitchen,

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all the machines, all the tables, all the chairs,

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we'll take it with us and then we'll leave them a letter to pay it

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once it's all gone.

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Having just said they don't know about the debt,

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the woman now has more information.

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It hasn't been paid. It hasn't been paid.

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What do you mean he's paid it already?

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Mr Harid. Is he on his way down?

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The most frustrating thing for the sheriffs

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is when a debtor refuses to communicate.

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Rob doesn't want to argue with the front of house staff,

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he just needs to speak to the boss.

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She won't give me an answer what time he's coming down here.

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So no-one's going to answer me if he's on his way down.

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If they can't speak to the boss,

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the only thing the enforcement agents can do

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is start exploring the restaurant.

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Gerald heads behind the bar to check out the stock.

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As long as the owner... Is the owner coming?

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OK, if you've called the owner, then no problem at all.

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Yeah, I'll wait here.

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Sheriffs have a duty to investigate a debtor's premises.

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But the woman isn't happy.

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And their exchange is threatening to cause a scene.

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One of the customers wades in.

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Are you the owner of the business?

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There we are then. I can't discuss it with you.

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All right?

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Don't tell me what rights I've got. I know what rights I've got.

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I have the right to come in here under a High Court writ

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and seize everything in this property.

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Give your lawyer a ring, then.

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The last thing the sheriffs want

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is an argument with the restaurant's diners.

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Rob just wants to speak to the boss.

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Is someone going to call him?

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But it's not going to be the boss that the man's calling.

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Right. There we are. Perfect.

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We'll now call the police because that's a threat of violence.

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All right?

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If you obstruct myself, or my colleague, it is a criminal offence.

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Rob and Gerald can't take any chances.

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Police, please. The occupants of the property have threatened to get

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the community down here now for a big fight.

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With both sides expecting to be vindicated by the police,

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the man calms down and goes back to his supper.

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The police are on the way, all right?

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It's getting a bit heated here at the moment.

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They're not happy that we're here.

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They don't believe we have any authority to be here.

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But the problem is, we are acting within the law.

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There we are. The police are here now.

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Ten minutes after the call, the police arrive.

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Hello, officers. Are you all right?

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We've got a High Court writ to enforce here today.

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At the moment, my intention here is

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to either get payment in this matter, or remove all the goods.

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This gentleman here has been in our faces all evening.

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-OK.

-He's also threatened to call the entire community

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and get them down here and there'll be a big fight.

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I'm taking that as a threat of assault.

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The man, however, is expecting the police

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to tell the sheriffs they can't enforce.

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We need payment now,

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or it's going to escalate and we're going to start removing.

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We are enforcing part of the law.

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The law states that, if it's not paid today,

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I have to take everything away.

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We don't want to do something like that.

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We don't want to do something like that.

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He's still not convinced, but, thanks to the police,

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the imminent threat of a big fight has receded.

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Gerald is concerned there's another flash point coming.

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If they don't pay, and they won't get hold of the boss,

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we're left with no other choice but to remove assets.

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-OK.

-They've obviously said that won't happen.

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-OK.

-They've said it won't happen.

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We're here strictly to prevent any breach of the peace

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and just trying to calm the situation down.

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Just talking to people in a calm manner

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and explaining the situation kind of prevents anything from happening.

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The police let the staff know that if it comes to it,

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they're not going to be stopping the removal of goods.

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And that seems to have an effect.

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How long will it take?

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The boss is now apparently on his way.

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Is he going to pay up? If so,

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I can send him a link to his phone and he can just pay it.

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Just as it looks like Rob's finally making progress,

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another man comes in from the back.

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He's not the boss and he's not come to pay.

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Right, do me a favour, mate.

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Do not touch my camera, right?

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Don't be grabbing or pushing.

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You can wait outside, right?

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The gentleman, it's obviously got a little bit tasty.

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He's been escorted out by the police and now being briefed

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by the police on what he should be doing

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and what he shouldn't be doing -

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ie, he cannot start putting his hands on people.

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The atmosphere in the restaurant is heating up.

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With the man ejected, and with the other diners having left,

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the police officers aren't letting anyone else in.

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So, me and my colleagues have made a decision

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to stop any further people coming in,

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apart from the people here, to provide security for yourself,

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us, and the enforcement agents.

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Customers are now being turned away and the business is empty.

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Later, with the boss still absent, Gerald takes decisive action.

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I've escalated it on to stage two.

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It's now at £1,745.

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Using the County Courts

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to try and recover money you're owed isn't difficult.

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1.5 million money claims

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are paid every year in England and Wales,

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involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship

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to unpaid invoices.

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Claims can be filed online, or by post for a small fee.

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Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence,

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and you may have to attend a court hearing.

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If you're successful,

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the County Court Judgment or CCJ will be issued against the debtor.

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If they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs.

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The sheriffs have an impressive track record

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when it comes to recovering debts for their clients.

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But that doesn't always mean getting payment in full there and then.

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Sometimes they'll give the debtor time to come up with the money.

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In the meantime, they'll take control of items

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that could later be sold to clear the debt.

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It's coming up to 8am,

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and High Court enforcement agents Lawrence Grix

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and Kev McNally are in the van, heading for the south coast.

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We're in sunny Hastings.

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We're going to see Dean Daniel of Weslake Motor Heritage.

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He owes the grand total of £2,944.

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The debt is relating to differential conversion kits for Triumph Stags.

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Weslake Motor Heritage,

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not to be confused with any other company of a similar name,

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manufactures parts for classic British sports cars -

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including the Triumph Stag.

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But the sheriffs' client today

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didn't have a happy experience with the company.

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He paid for this...

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..and never received goods.

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So, eventually, he cancelled and requested a refund,

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which he never got.

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This is the claimant, Steve Flowers,

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a mechanical engineer from Suffolk.

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I've been into classic cars most of my life.

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And this is Steve's pride and joy, a 1976 Triumph Stag.

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V8 engine. Twin heads.

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I've done quite a bit on it myself.

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The engine has all been lightened and balance.

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It's got gas float heads, four barrel carb.

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A lot of people refer to it as a hairdresser's car.

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But Steve doesn't agree, and he should know.

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He's spent the last 12 years lovingly restoring it.

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Now it's almost ready for the open road.

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The engine's perfect.

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Gearbox is great, the rest of the car is great, other than the diff.

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The what?!

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Apparently, the diff, or rear differential,

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transfers engine power to the rear wheels.

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So, it's pretty important as far as performance is concerned.

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This is the diff. This has been the bane of my life.

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It needed replacing but the original part is no longer manufactured

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and Steve didn't want a used one.

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Instead, he found Dean Daniel, trading as Weslake Motor Heritage,

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who said he could provide a new diff, specially modified for a Stag.

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He seemed a nice guy, knew what he was talking about.

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So, £1,500 for the differential, and £500 for the drive shaft.

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He said, "Yeah, I want a deposit of £500."

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Fine.

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It seemed like a fair price to Steve,

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and he paid the £500 deposit.

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They agreed the parts would be ready in time

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for him to drive to a classic car event

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at the Spa Race Track in Belgium that summer.

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Spa is the highlight of my year.

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When you turn up in your car, and it's your car, and you've built it,

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and it's got you there with maybe a minimum amount of oil leaks

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and a minimum amount of water leaks,

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you feel really proud and you think,

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"Yeah, I've done a good job here."

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As the event drew closer,

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Steve started to worry

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that the parts weren't going to arrive in time.

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Then he got the phone call he'd been waiting for.

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He said it was ready. And I said, "Fine."

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He said, "If you transfer the money over..."

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I said, "Yeah, not a problem."

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Steve paid the £1,500 balance,

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but the parts he'd ordered still didn't arrive.

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And then, for the next few months,

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I got promises it was going to be ready,

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and then this wasn't going to happen,

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and that wasn't going to happen.

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The Spa Classic Car Event that Steve was eagerly anticipating

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came and went.

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The Triumph wasn't ready,

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and Steve had to go as a passenger in a friend's car.

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It spoiled my year, really, to be honest.

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When you speak to the guy, and he's all sort of genial,

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and, "Yeah, I can do this and do that,"

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and then you find out that he's just shafted you,

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I got very angry.

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Steve eventually sourced a second-hand differential,

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and got the Stag up and running again.

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But Mr Daniels still had Steve's £2,000, and his order.

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Then cancelled it and I said, "I want my money back, I've had enough.

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"You've messed me around enough."

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But, when his money wasn't returned, Steve took the matter to court.

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And when Mr Daniel didn't contest the case,

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judgment was issued in Steve's favour.

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Even then he didn't get paid.

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He's now upgraded the judgment to the High Court and got a writ.

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I thought, "Right, you ain't going to get away with it.

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"I'm going to get my money back one way or another."

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Back in Hastings,

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Lawrence is looking forward to a job that takes him back

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to his own heady days of sports car ownership.

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I had a Triumph Stag back in the day and I managed to blow my diff.

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Bit of a pig of a job,

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laying on your back with the car on axle stands,

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trying to grapple the diff out from between the chassis rails.

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But I managed it in the end.

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But, yeah, if I could have got a better one, I would.

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It's all double Dutch to Kev.

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But, before he can say anything, they arrive.

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There are plenty of cars on site, but none of them vintage.

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I thought there'd be a garage out here somewhere.

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There's nothing round there.

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Should be here somewhere.

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They head into reception, but there's no-one around.

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High Court enforcement agents have the power

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to enter a commercial premises,

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so Lawrence and Kev head through.

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Where's our one then? That's not what we want, is it?

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No.

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It's not going to be that.

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They can't find Dean Daniel's unit,

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but they do bump into some men in the corridor.

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Looking for Weslake Motor Heritage.

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And, although, at first, they seem to have no idea either...

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Walked through the door. It was open.

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..it turns out one of them is the landlord.

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My name is Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement agent,

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as is my colleague.

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Do you know them?

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So, can you point us in the right direction, please?

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Not here as in gone permanently or temporarily?

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Just not here at the moment.

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If Weslake Motor Heritage and Dean Daniel really aren't here,

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there might not be much the sheriffs can do today.

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Just to make sure, the landlord leads them round,

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and to everyone's surprise, Mr Daniel IS here after all.

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-Dean...

-Yes.

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My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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Yeah, well, come in.

0:17:350:17:36

Why do I need a camera?

0:17:380:17:40

At last, they've found the debtor,

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but he isn't pleased to see the camera,

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so we wait outside.

0:17:450:17:47

Lawrence explains to Mr Daniel

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that he's got a High Court writ in Stephen Flowers's favour,

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that commands him to collect the £2,944 owed.

0:17:530:17:58

Mr Daniels says he is aware of the debt,

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and says that although he doesn't have the money to pay it,

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he has arranged to borrow some from a friend.

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The problem is that the cash injection isn't due to arrive

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for a few more days.

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Lawrence isn't keen to wait and doesn't think Steve will be either.

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He tells Mr Daniel that, if he can't get hold of the money sooner,

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his goods could be removed instead.

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And the unit is full of valuable assets,

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mostly machine tooling and parts.

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As Lawrence contemplates taking control of some of it,

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he can't resist the chance to reminisce with Mr Daniel

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about his own experiences in an old Stag.

0:18:350:18:38

Engines aren't my thing so I'll let him crack on with it.

0:18:390:18:41

Lawrence had to recount a few of his stories from his youth

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about changing head gaskets and whatever else he does,

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crawling around in the nuts and bolts and oil.

0:18:490:18:51

Inside, Lawrence hasn't had any luck

0:18:530:18:55

in hurrying along Mr Daniel's investor.

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With no payment offer on the table,

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it's going to have to be the assets.

0:19:000:19:02

He has got a lot of assets there

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that are definitely going to cover the amount

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we're after by a long shot.

0:19:070:19:08

Probably give him a couple of days to pay, list the assets there,

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and, if we have to, come back and remove them.

0:19:130:19:16

The High Court writ commands the sheriffs

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to either collect payment or take control of goods.

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But taking control doesn't always mean physically removing stuff.

0:19:210:19:25

In this case, Mr Daniel will have to sign a Controlled Goods Agreement,

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or CGA, which will mean his assets technically belong to the court

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and can't be sold or otherwise disposed of.

0:19:350:19:37

But they can remain on the premises,

0:19:380:19:40

giving him time to come up with the money while continuing to trade.

0:19:400:19:45

And, with that agreed, Lawrence and Kev head out.

0:19:450:19:47

This way out, wasn't it?

0:19:500:19:51

They leave with thousands of pounds worth of machinery listed

0:19:520:19:56

and an agreement that payment will follow.

0:19:560:19:58

The job went well. He's a nice enough chap, to be fair.

0:19:580:20:01

Knew all about it, and he's just going to get it sorted.

0:20:010:20:04

So, we listed a few assets down and gave him a couple of days to pay.

0:20:040:20:08

It might seem like the sheriffs let Mr Daniel off the hook,

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but taking control of goods puts them firmly in the driving seat.

0:20:120:20:16

Under the terms of seizure,

0:20:160:20:18

they can force entry to his unit at any time

0:20:180:20:20

and remove them if he doesn't pay up as agreed.

0:20:200:20:24

Going on instinct, he's going to pay that, no problem.

0:20:250:20:27

If not, we'll be back to remove the goods.

0:20:270:20:29

There's plenty of assets to cover the amount we're after.

0:20:290:20:32

Kev's instincts were proved correct

0:20:320:20:34

when Mr Daniel made the payments he promised.

0:20:340:20:38

It's been a triumph for the sheriffs.

0:20:380:20:40

Steve has finally got the money he's owed.

0:20:400:20:44

All my thanks are to Lawrence and Kev.

0:20:440:20:46

I gather Lawrence is a massive car fan,

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and I got the full payment and I'm really, really happy.

0:20:490:20:52

Back in West London, Rob and Gerald are still in Pacific Blue Ocean,

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a restaurant that owes a debt to a drainage firm.

0:21:050:21:08

They'd been trying to get hold of the boss for more than half an hour.

0:21:080:21:12

You're going to have to ring him.

0:21:140:21:15

With customers and staff unhappy with their presence,

0:21:190:21:22

they've had to call the police to calm things down.

0:21:220:21:25

Right, do me a favour, mate, do not touch my camera, right?

0:21:250:21:28

Don't be grabbing and pushing.

0:21:280:21:30

Wait outside. All right?

0:21:300:21:32

The police have closed the doors to prevent any further altercations.

0:21:330:21:37

They've effectively stopped the restaurant from trading.

0:21:370:21:40

The woman now makes an offer.

0:21:400:21:42

No, it needs to be paid in full.

0:21:480:21:49

Unfortunately, with attitude that we've seen today,

0:21:490:21:52

and the aggression we've seen today,

0:21:520:21:55

we're not going to be able to do that.

0:21:550:21:56

It needs to be settled tonight,

0:21:560:21:57

or we'll remove goods to close this file.

0:21:570:21:59

It's... I'm not having either ourselves

0:21:590:22:01

or another officer, or the police,

0:22:010:22:03

having to waste their time by coming back down AGAIN to deal with this.

0:22:030:22:06

It needs to be dealt with now.

0:22:060:22:07

Over half an hour since he first asked,

0:22:080:22:11

Rob finally gets to speak to the director, Mr Harid.

0:22:110:22:15

He now says he's coming down to the restaurant.

0:22:150:22:18

Right, how long are you going to be?

0:22:180:22:19

On your way is not good enough

0:22:190:22:21

because you could phone in another hour's time

0:22:210:22:23

and go, "I'm still on my way, I'm still stuck in traffic,

0:22:230:22:25

"it's going to be another hour." We don't work like that.

0:22:250:22:28

Have you got a smartphone?

0:22:280:22:29

Have you got the internet?

0:22:290:22:31

I can send you a payment link to your phone.

0:22:310:22:33

You go into that link and you can make the payment.

0:22:330:22:36

He says he can't,

0:22:360:22:37

but he will send his card details to a member of staff

0:22:370:22:40

who will make the payment on his behalf.

0:22:400:22:43

We're now hoping that that's going to go through

0:22:430:22:45

and that will resolve things.

0:22:450:22:47

What it's asking you for now is to enter your card number.

0:22:470:22:50

But it's not that simple.

0:22:500:22:52

Looks like it's failed for whatever reason.

0:22:520:22:54

And the next attempt doesn't go through either.

0:22:550:22:59

Despite the restaurant agreeing to pay just moments earlier,

0:22:590:23:02

it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

0:23:020:23:05

That failed for whatever reason.

0:23:050:23:06

I don't think they're entering the right details.

0:23:060:23:09

Rob warns the police that he and Gerald

0:23:090:23:11

might have no choice than to escalate to removal.

0:23:110:23:14

We'll give you a heads up before we start doing that.

0:23:140:23:16

Then we won't just jump into it.

0:23:160:23:18

Before that, he tries to make sure the woman understands

0:23:180:23:21

that if the debt isn't paid very soon,

0:23:210:23:23

then further fees will be added.

0:23:230:23:26

The bill is already nearly twice what they owed

0:23:260:23:28

the drain maintenance company in the first place.

0:23:280:23:32

This is a £600 debt that's gone up to almost £1,200.

0:23:320:23:35

It goes up hugely.

0:23:350:23:37

It can go up to almost £3,000. From £600 to £3,000 - it's huge.

0:23:370:23:42

Rob offers the woman one last chance to pay.

0:23:420:23:45

Either putting the payment through now or time up.

0:23:450:23:49

But, with no money forthcoming,

0:23:490:23:51

the enforcement agents' options have finally run out.

0:23:510:23:54

Can you tell them it's now £1,745?

0:23:560:24:00

I've escalated it on to stage two.

0:24:000:24:02

Escalating the enforcement to stage two

0:24:030:24:05

means Rob and Gerald list the business's assets

0:24:050:24:08

and start preparing for a potential removal.

0:24:080:24:11

What I'm going to start doing now is lugging all the tables and chairs

0:24:120:24:15

and start piling them up at the door here.

0:24:150:24:17

It looks like they really will need to empty the restaurant

0:24:170:24:20

to have any chance of getting the drainage company's money.

0:24:200:24:23

But just then...

0:24:250:24:26

HORN BEEPS

0:24:260:24:27

Is that him in the taxi?

0:24:300:24:32

Right.

0:24:320:24:33

Hello, sir.

0:24:360:24:37

How do?

0:24:380:24:39

To their surprise, he says he's already paid the debt.

0:24:390:24:43

This is the letter, is it?

0:24:430:24:45

What?

0:24:480:24:49

You've had that letter this morning?

0:24:490:24:51

Dated the 25th of July, 2017.

0:24:510:24:54

No, it makes no difference at all.

0:24:540:24:57

This was Tuesday, 25th of July.

0:24:570:24:59

Don't care. Means nothing at all to me -

0:24:590:25:01

you need to pay the amount that we're here for.

0:25:010:25:03

The man's letter is four months old.

0:25:030:25:05

We're enforcing. You've got...

0:25:050:25:07

Sir, this was posted on the 25th of July,

0:25:070:25:10

and you received this letter today?

0:25:100:25:13

What the boss has appears to be the original invoice

0:25:130:25:15

from the drainage company.

0:25:150:25:17

He didn't pay them for their work at the time

0:25:170:25:20

and it's since been through court,

0:25:200:25:22

and then a writ issued for the money.

0:25:220:25:24

He's a little too late.

0:25:240:25:26

The £600 bill has become a £1,750 writ of control at stage two.

0:25:260:25:32

No, you haven't.

0:25:340:25:35

We've got a High Court writ here that says how much you have to pay.

0:25:350:25:38

Our amount needs to be paid, otherwise, I'm taking the lot away.

0:25:380:25:42

You need to agree to pay this now or it's going up another stage.

0:25:420:25:45

He's not happy.

0:25:450:25:47

It was that much when I came here two hours ago.

0:25:480:25:50

It's £1,745.

0:25:500:25:53

Yeah, it was that amount there until 5.30pm.

0:25:530:25:57

It's now 6.45pm.

0:25:570:25:59

So, that there is where I've given you warning.

0:25:590:26:02

That there is the amount that you need to pay.

0:26:020:26:05

£1,745.66.

0:26:050:26:08

With the goods by the door ready for removal,

0:26:080:26:11

Gerald no longer has the appetite for an argument.

0:26:110:26:14

It's time to bring this job to an end.

0:26:140:26:17

Are we going to pay this or not?

0:26:170:26:19

Simple as that. I'm not arguing with you.

0:26:190:26:21

Are you going to put your card into our machine or not?

0:26:210:26:24

You need to answer now or it's going to go to over £2,500...

0:26:250:26:28

-That's the next stage.

-And we remove at further cost.

0:26:280:26:31

Card?

0:26:310:26:32

Thank you.

0:26:340:26:36

And with that, the boss pays the whole stage two fee on a card.

0:26:360:26:39

You're right was to answer your mail and go to court and respond to it.

0:26:410:26:45

You've had plenty of court letters,

0:26:450:26:47

you've had plenty of letters from us.

0:26:470:26:48

Here's your receipt. Thank you, sir.

0:26:480:26:50

-All done.

-Thank you.

0:26:500:26:51

And much to everyone's relief, the sheriffs leave.

0:26:540:26:57

Cheers, gents. Thank you very much, sirs.

0:26:570:26:59

-Cheers.

-Cheers. Thank you.

0:26:590:27:02

The police were a godsend there today.

0:27:020:27:04

I believe if they weren't there,

0:27:040:27:07

we had a very large crowd starting together.

0:27:070:27:11

It's been an exhausting evening for the sheriffs,

0:27:110:27:14

but they've demonstrated that they have the tenacity

0:27:140:27:17

to get their clients the money the court has ordered.

0:27:170:27:20

Unfortunately, situations like this,

0:27:200:27:22

they could have dealt with it much easier, much quicker.

0:27:220:27:24

There was no need for the threats,

0:27:240:27:25

there was no need for wasting the police time in attendance.

0:27:250:27:28

Unfortunately, when someone threatens

0:27:280:27:30

to call the entire community down and there's going to be a big fight,

0:27:300:27:32

we've got to take it seriously.

0:27:320:27:34

A long, drawn-out case,

0:27:340:27:35

but a damn good result was achieved at the end of it.

0:27:350:27:38

Payment in full, all sorted.

0:27:380:27:41

Pacific Blue Ocean Ltd have learned the hard way

0:27:410:27:44

that it's much better to pay their debts

0:27:440:27:46

before the High Court has to get involved.

0:27:460:27:48

When debtors can't pay on the spot...

0:27:580:28:00

Are you going to pay the bill?

0:28:000:28:01

-What do you mean, no?

-..the sheriffs won't always remove assets.

0:28:010:28:06

Goods go for almost a fifth of their true value at auction,

0:28:060:28:09

and it's often better to agree a payment plan.

0:28:090:28:12

Do you reckon you can do £200 a week?

0:28:120:28:14

They'll make a list of assets...

0:28:140:28:17

That's a nice motor.

0:28:170:28:18

-Rice cookers.

-Seven wrist bracelets.

0:28:180:28:21

...and a controlled goods agreement is signed,

0:28:210:28:24

making it an offence for anyone else to remove them.

0:28:240:28:27

You sign it, I sign it...

0:28:270:28:29

The sheriffs will only return to take the goods

0:28:290:28:31

if the debtor fails to make payments.

0:28:310:28:34

I've signed him up for £1,000 a month.

0:28:340:28:36

Providing you stick to that, you won't hear from us again.

0:28:360:28:39

Tracy Lee and Adam Crossley are on their way to Leeds,

0:28:420:28:46

heading to a business that owes a substantial sum of money.

0:28:460:28:50

The writ is against a pharmacy, Khan Pharmacy.

0:28:500:28:54

It's just short of £10,000 we're looking to recover this morning.

0:28:540:28:57

Khan Pharmacy owes the money to a supplier, which hasn't been paid.

0:29:000:29:04

They took the shop to court, but when it didn't enter a defence,

0:29:040:29:08

judgment was made against them.

0:29:080:29:10

When they still didn't pay, the supplier got a writ,

0:29:100:29:13

and today the pharmacy owes £9,096.64.

0:29:130:29:19

Here we are. It's bigger than I expected.

0:29:190:29:22

The premises is large and Tracy and Adam park up round the corner

0:29:220:29:26

and head in, hopeful that the pharmacy

0:29:260:29:28

will have goods to the value of their debt.

0:29:280:29:30

Morning.

0:29:300:29:32

-Morning.

-Is the owner in?

0:29:320:29:34

It's regarding an outstanding debt.

0:29:340:29:35

It's a High Court writ we're here to enforce.

0:29:350:29:38

Who's the proprietor?

0:29:380:29:39

-It's my husband.

-Is Mr Khan about?

0:29:390:29:41

Well, his car's broken down.

0:29:410:29:43

He's running a little bit late.

0:29:430:29:44

Right. Are you able to get him on the telephone?

0:29:440:29:46

-Yeah.

-If you can do that, please.

0:29:460:29:49

She calls her husband and he says he's on his way.

0:29:490:29:52

Meanwhile, Tracy and Adam check out the assets.

0:29:530:29:57

There's a lot of shelves empty.

0:29:570:29:59

Bit sparse, isn't it?

0:29:590:30:00

Some electric toothbrushes up here,

0:30:010:30:03

which I should imagine are retailing at £40, £50 apiece.

0:30:030:30:06

There's not £10,000 worth, is there?

0:30:060:30:08

There are some expensive products here,

0:30:090:30:11

but the sheriffs know they'll make a fraction

0:30:110:30:13

of their retail price at auction.

0:30:130:30:15

The most valuable items are the medicine stocks,

0:30:160:30:19

but, unfortunately for the sheriffs,

0:30:190:30:21

prescription drugs are exempt from seizure by law.

0:30:210:30:24

-Morning.

-Morning, is it Mr Khan?

0:30:260:30:28

-That's me. Yes.

-Hi.

0:30:280:30:30

This is my colleague, Miss Lee.

0:30:300:30:32

We're enforcement agents - High Court enforcement officers.

0:30:320:30:37

We're here to consider an unpaid writ of control.

0:30:370:30:40

And we're here today to enforce it.

0:30:400:30:41

The balance will be paid immediately.

0:30:410:30:43

£9,096.64.

0:30:430:30:45

Can you pay it?

0:30:470:30:48

Why can you not pay it?

0:30:500:30:51

All right. OK.

0:30:530:30:54

Tracy wants Mr Khan to understand the severity

0:30:540:30:58

of what happens if he doesn't pay his debt.

0:30:580:31:00

Mr Khan, there's a writ which gives us the right to remove goods,

0:31:000:31:03

so we are in a position to empty the premises.

0:31:030:31:05

Is there anybody that can help you out with this?

0:31:050:31:08

If he really can't afford to pay, the sheriffs will need to see proof.

0:31:090:31:13

Have you got online banking?

0:31:130:31:15

Do you mind if I can come with you to have a look?

0:31:150:31:17

What you might tell me and what you've got available

0:31:190:31:21

might be two different things. All right.

0:31:210:31:24

Mr Khan takes the sheriffs into his office

0:31:240:31:26

to show them his bank statements.

0:31:260:31:29

It's not good news.

0:31:290:31:31

It's clear that he doesn't have the funds to pay in full.

0:31:310:31:33

He decides he no longer wants the camera in his shop

0:31:350:31:38

and we continue filming from the road.

0:31:380:31:40

Inside, Mr Khan tells Adam he has £300 of his own money

0:31:410:31:46

that he offers to pay towards the debt.

0:31:460:31:48

Given that it stands at more than £9,000,

0:31:490:31:53

300 won't be enough to stop the sheriffs

0:31:530:31:55

taking the shop's stock away with them.

0:31:550:31:57

And that's not all. The pharmacy is not a limited company,

0:31:590:32:02

and Mr Khan is trading as an individual,

0:32:020:32:05

meaning his personal goods are on the line too.

0:32:050:32:09

Although they were told his car was broken down,

0:32:090:32:12

Tracy saw him arrive in one and goes looking for it.

0:32:120:32:16

It's a 540, BMW.

0:32:160:32:18

It's a few years old, so the value of that...

0:32:180:32:21

£1,000 max.

0:32:210:32:23

Mr Khan has said the car belongs to someone else

0:32:230:32:26

and, as it's barely worth the cost of removing it,

0:32:260:32:29

the sheriffs don't press the point.

0:32:290:32:32

Tracy isn't expecting to get the debt settled today.

0:32:320:32:35

We empty the premises today, shut him down,

0:32:350:32:38

the debt's not going to get paid, is it?

0:32:380:32:40

It's looking like it's going to be an arrangement.

0:32:400:32:42

Back in the shop, Adam has reached the same conclusion.

0:32:430:32:47

He's estimated that he might be able to raise £3,000

0:32:470:32:50

by auctioning the shop's goods.

0:32:500:32:52

He explains to Mr Khan that if he can come up with that figure,

0:32:530:32:57

he'll list the goods, but leave them on the premises

0:32:570:33:00

and set up an arrangement to pay the rest of the debt in instalments.

0:33:000:33:03

Before he finishes, he's interrupted.

0:33:050:33:07

Adam, Adam.

0:33:090:33:11

We can if we can get a lump sum paid today.

0:33:110:33:13

-Yes.

-The van's been trashed.

0:33:130:33:15

Somebody's stuck a brick through the van window.

0:33:150:33:17

The passenger window has been smashed

0:33:190:33:21

and Tracy's tablet computer stolen.

0:33:210:33:23

That's a hell of a brick.

0:33:230:33:25

It's a bit of a shock but there's still a job to do.

0:33:250:33:28

Are you ringing the police?

0:33:280:33:30

I'm trying to get this money out of this bloke.

0:33:300:33:32

While Adam heads back in to encourage Mr Khan

0:33:320:33:35

to come up with the money,

0:33:350:33:36

Tracy is left to deal with the van.

0:33:360:33:39

Could I have the police, please?

0:33:390:33:41

Ten minutes later, Adam has finally made some progress.

0:33:420:33:46

It's not yet at his £3,000 target but they're getting close.

0:33:460:33:50

His partner's left to go and try and get some funds.

0:33:510:33:54

She think she's got about £500 available

0:33:540:33:57

in her account, so I think she's going to lend it to him.

0:33:570:34:00

He's got some money coming in on Monday,

0:34:000:34:02

so he wants to make a deferred payment from that

0:34:020:34:05

and then come to an arrangement to pay the balance.

0:34:050:34:07

The police arrive and Tracy shows them the damage.

0:34:090:34:13

The perpetrators have long since fled,

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but the officers collect what evidence they can.

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-SHE SIGHS

-You don't want the brick, then?

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Inside the shop, Mr Khan's partner has returned.

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Adam takes the £500 she's brought from the bank

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and Mr Khan makes a £300 payment online.

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They fill out the control of goods agreement

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and Mr Khan promises to make another payment that evening.

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Tracy, meanwhile, is left to clean out the van.

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Look at this, eh? A woman's work...

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Not happy about this.

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Adam finishes with Mr Khan.

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Have you done a good job in there?

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500 in cash with 300 on a transfer.

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He's going to transfer 1,000 tonight.

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1,000 again on Monday.

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And then he's proposed £800 a month.

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So, £800 in the bank and another 2,000 promised in the next few days.

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It's pretty close to the £3,000 that Adam said he wanted

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and not a bad result,

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considering how little value there was in the available assets.

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Mr Khan admitted that he had not responded to it,

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and I think it's focused his attention today

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that he needs to deal with his creditors.

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He didn't have the funds available so, all in all,

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I think it's a decent result, given the circumstances.

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No.

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The suppliers, who are owed the money,

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accepted the arrangement proposal of £800 a month,

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which, to date, Mr Khan has been paying as agreed.

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Enforcement agents Andy Joryeff and Adie Long are in north-east London

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on their way to a business that hasn't paid a debt.

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Today, we go to Quick Cars UK Ltd in Old Street, London.

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It's a taxi rank and owes roughly around the 2,500 mark.

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The money is owed to an individual who took the cab firm to court.

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They didn't pay what was ordered,

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so the claimant's now got a writ for the money.

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There it is, Quick Cars.

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It's the one with the orange sign.

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The premises looks quite small.

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The sheriffs head in to ask for the £2,413 owing.

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Hello, sir. Do you work for Quick Cars?

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My name is Mr Joryeff.

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I'm an enforcement agent.

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I'm here to enforce...

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..a High Court writ against Quick Cars UK.

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Do you want to give him a call so I can speak to him?

0:37:020:37:05

Excellent. Thank you.

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Whether the man is a dispatcher or a driver waiting for a fare

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isn't clear, but he's not the boss and he leaves them to it.

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We've gained entry into the commercial premises.

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The gentleman that's here now appears to be an employee.

0:37:170:37:20

He says that the director of the company isn't here.

0:37:200:37:23

He's just on the phone to him now.

0:37:230:37:25

While they wait, Adie starts to explore,

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and almost immediately finds the letter

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his own office have sent out,

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warning the business the sheriffs were coming.

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We have got an enforcement notice,

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so he can't deny that he hasn't received that letter off us.

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Sheriffs are entitled to make a diligent search

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of a debtor's premises.

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And, in doing so, Andy's found something interesting.

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This Certificate of Employers' Liability

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for Quick Cars UK.

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The insurance document could prove

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the company is active and trading from here.

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Moments later, the man they spoke to on the way in

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reappears with his boss on the phone.

0:38:040:38:06

Hello, sir. Is this Mr Patel?

0:38:080:38:10

My name is Mr Joryeff.

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I'm an enforcement agent.

0:38:110:38:12

I'm here in order to execute a High Court writ of control.

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The balance is £2,413.34.

0:38:160:38:18

The High Court writ that we have

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commands that we take control of your assets

0:38:200:38:23

to remove for sale at auction.

0:38:230:38:25

The director doesn't dispute they owe the money,

0:38:250:38:27

but says there are so many other debts

0:38:270:38:30

he won't be able to pay it off.

0:38:300:38:31

I understand exactly what you're saying.

0:38:310:38:34

OK. However, the other debts are not my concern today.

0:38:340:38:39

Now I'm here at enforcement stage one.

0:38:390:38:41

Enforcement stage two will incur an extra fee of £594.

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OK?

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It's a lot of money to come up with today,

0:38:480:38:51

but a stage two fee will only add to the company's debt burden.

0:38:510:38:55

Get yourself down here so I can speak to you face-to-face.

0:38:550:38:58

I'm going to have a look around the office area, OK?

0:38:580:39:01

See what assets are here, and then we shall go from there.

0:39:010:39:05

If the sheriffs are to accept a payment plan,

0:39:050:39:08

they need to be convinced that it's in their client's best interests.

0:39:080:39:12

Should the company have assets that could be sold to clear the debt

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immediately, then they won't agree to months of small part-payments.

0:39:140:39:19

He says that he's contacted the office previously,

0:39:200:39:23

advising that he cannot make payment in full.

0:39:230:39:26

He wishes to put forward a payment proposal

0:39:260:39:29

in order to clear the debt via instalments.

0:39:290:39:32

What that proposal is, I don't know.

0:39:320:39:35

He's going to come down to try and get this matter sorted out.

0:39:350:39:38

While they wait for the boss to arrive,

0:39:380:39:40

they resume their search of the office.

0:39:400:39:43

Looking to see if there are any vehicles that are owned

0:39:430:39:47

by the debtor. Looking through some logbooks,

0:39:470:39:50

it seems as if all the drivers own their own cars.

0:39:500:39:53

If they can't find something valuable,

0:39:540:39:56

such as a car that could be sold for the entire amount owed,

0:39:560:40:00

the sheriffs have the option of seizing everything here on paper

0:40:000:40:04

while Quick Cars UK come up with the money.

0:40:040:40:07

There's a possibility that we will enter him

0:40:070:40:09

into a Controlled Goods Agreement today,

0:40:090:40:11

but there is no point wasting time sitting around

0:40:110:40:13

so I am just going to start itemising the assets now.

0:40:130:40:16

There is little of value in the office,

0:40:160:40:18

but there is an intriguing safe under the desk.

0:40:180:40:21

Anything in the safe?

0:40:210:40:22

It's locked. You've got keys for it?

0:40:240:40:26

No keys? The safe is bolted to the floor.

0:40:260:40:29

It is locked. We will ask the director to open that up.

0:40:290:40:33

Andy is hopeful that it will be stuffed with cash,

0:40:330:40:36

but in the meantime, he has found some notes.

0:40:360:40:38

30, 40, 50, 60.

0:40:380:40:41

So £65.

0:40:410:40:42

Depending on what

0:40:420:40:45

the director says when he arrives,

0:40:450:40:47

I'll make a decision then on whether I'm going to take it or not.

0:40:470:40:51

Sheriffs can seize cash they find on a debtor's premises.

0:40:510:40:54

Unlike any other asset, if it belongs to someone else,

0:40:540:40:57

the debtor will have to prove it.

0:40:570:40:59

The sweep of the office is now complete,

0:40:590:41:01

but they will have to wait for the boss to arrive

0:41:010:41:04

to find out what is in the safe.

0:41:040:41:06

If he opens up the safe, and there's plenty of money in there,

0:41:060:41:10

fantastic, job done.

0:41:100:41:11

However, if there isn't, we are just going to have to

0:41:110:41:14

try and apply the pressure with what assets we have here today.

0:41:140:41:17

We have got computer systems, the radio system.

0:41:170:41:21

Without this equipment, I believe they wouldn't be able to trade.

0:41:210:41:24

None of it is worth very much second-hand,

0:41:250:41:28

but would be expensive for the company to replace.

0:41:280:41:31

Andy is hoping the boss would rather pay

0:41:310:41:33

than see his equipment taken away.

0:41:330:41:35

And a little over an hour after the sheriffs walked in, he's here.

0:41:380:41:42

Hello, sir.

0:41:420:41:43

We are asked to leave.

0:41:510:41:53

Inside, Andy continues his examination,

0:41:530:41:57

going through the company's online banking with the boss.

0:41:570:41:59

There is not much there, and when the safe is finally opened,

0:42:010:42:04

there is nothing there either.

0:42:040:42:06

40 minutes later, Andy and Adie are out.

0:42:080:42:11

We have pushed as much as we can.

0:42:120:42:15

We have managed to achieve a Controlled Goods Agreement

0:42:150:42:18

with a £463 payment today.

0:42:180:42:22

Following Andy and Adie's visit,

0:42:220:42:24

Quick Cars UK Limited have been making payments,

0:42:240:42:27

and the debt is now well on the way to being cleared.

0:42:270:42:29

It's another success for the sheriffs

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and another of their clients who will finally get

0:42:320:42:35

what the court has said they're owed.

0:42:350:42:37

Quick Cars UK Limited's director told us

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that when he took over the business...

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He said:

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