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Hello, and welcome to a brand new series - Watchdog Daily. We're with

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you live every morning for the next four weeks. We'll be taking on the

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companies whose service, value and promises don't measure up. Fighting

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your corner and getting you a better deal. This morning Admiral,

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Aviva and Halifax. Insure your car with any of them? Better check

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before you renew. HSBC, Barclays and Natwest. Giving wrong advice -

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are they on the wrong side of the law? And the truth about low-cost

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airlines. How Easyjet and Ryanair could cost you more than travelling

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with BA. Also on today's programme: A quick question, you have a the

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money in the house. On the trail of a scammer, we join the Consumer

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cops as they try to un mask a conman, determined to trick a coup

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out of thousands of pounds. First, insurance companies.

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Peoplups for new customers have gone to an 18 - month low, but for

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the new customers it could abdifferent story. Some drivers

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have seen payments rocket. As Rani Price reports, this is just

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one problem that they could face. Rolling on a policy from one year

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to the next is meant to make your life easier. Giving a company your

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loyalty should ensure you get the best service and the best price,

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but not cording to these drivers. I've been with the Halifax for a

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year. The premium was �79. The following year it came up to over

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�3,000. If I had let it go through with automatic renewal, I would

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have been out of pocket by �340 a month. A five-time increase to what

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I was paying previously. .For Daniel Woolley, the increase

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was higher. Renewing his car insurance with Aviva would have

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caused his premium to soar to a whopping �7,329.

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. What shocked me is that the insurance would have gone up on

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moopbl basis to over �600 a month - - monthly it would have gone

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automatically without me doing anything.

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Luckily, he did do something. When he called Aviva to complain, they

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reduced it to just �2,099. I could not understand how they

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could just drop it by �5,000. If it was so easy to drop it, why not

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send me the lower figure in the first place? Mark Croucher had a

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similar experience with add add. The premium last year was �709.

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This year the renewal quote came in at �1022. That is too much to pay

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for car insurance. I started to shop around.

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Mark Croucher found he got the cover cheaper, at just �168 for a

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whole year's insurance, that name of that company? Admiral, but he

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had to sign up as a new customer to qualify.

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After being a loyal customer for Admiral for a couple of years, I

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expect the policy to be better. If I let the policy renew itself it

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would have been I would have been out of pocket. Loyalty does not

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mean anything. So is it clear, staying loyal to

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the same insurance company year in, year out, does not always pay, but

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if you ditch the auto renewal policy and switch provider, check

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the small print. Frank Elswood was with Admiral when they offered him

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a higher renewal premium. He decided to go elsewhere.

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Admiral had taken the money from my bank account and sent an insurance

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policy through that meant that I had insured the car twice. Frank

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was caught out by a law, that allowed Admiral to continue taking

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from his account until he contacted them. Frank was still left with �47

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out of pocket. So when his daughter wanted to switch from Admiral he

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was determined no to the repeat it We sent an e-mail. We are getting

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wise to what they do now. The e- mail stateed that we were not

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renewing insurance with Admiral, but despite that, Admiral carried

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on with their attempts to take his money.

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I have had four letters so far, the last one telling us they were about

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to put it with the collection agency it is so frustrating. When

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you are getting debt collection letters it is the time, the effort,

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the stress that goes with it to sort this out when I don't feel I

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have done anything wrong. Renewal premium increases to make

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your eyes water. You think that your insurance is

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renewed, then it is not. For these drivers car insurance renewals have

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been nothing but trouble. So, unhappy customers. So what have

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the companies said about it? They have all apologised to the various

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customers featured. Admiral say that Mark Croucher's quote was high

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then reduced as they assess new and old customers independently, but

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they are working on changing the system to stop this happening. They

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say they would have refunded the fees associated with Frank

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Elswood's policy if they had been provided with details, but they are

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waiving the �127.76 on his daughter's policy and say they

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would have done so see er, had he sent them more information.

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They send renewal quotes in advance so, customers are given the

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opportunity to cancel. Aviva blame the processor -- processing error

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in Daniel Woolley's payment. They immediately paid it back when he

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called them. They say they still give quality car insurance at a

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competitive price. Later on I'm speaking with the head

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of the Association of British Insurers. They represent the

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companies talked about in this field if you wish to comment or

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report on any of the day's other stories please get in touch.

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Now, throughout the series we are following the UK's so-called

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Consumer Cops. Society of Motor Manufacturers & Traders officers

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who operate in all areas of the country frfplt investigating car-

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clocking garages, to prosecuting loan sharks. Their work is varied

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and immense. This week, Shefalia Oza joins the team with one of the

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heaviest work loads. Welcome to the West Midlands it borders

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Warwickshire to the east, Worcestershire to the south and

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Staffordshire to the north and the west. It is also home to the second

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UK city, Birmingham. So no wonder that the so-called Consumer Cops

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are busy. All this week I'll be showing you

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just how busy. Pull over here now! Following

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officers as they crack down on counterfeit crime. We are with them

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as they hunt for illicit alcohol. Can we have the truth now? You said

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there was no more vodka in here. We also discovered the shocking

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truth about the illegal jewellery trade. Seen them confront the

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travel agents who they believe are breaking the law.

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What about this USB. It is going back! And you can see what the

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Society of Motor Manufacturers & Traders officers, to do to keep at

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the sharp end of things. For a region of 5.5 million people, the

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main area of consumer protection, the prevention of so-called

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doorstep crime. Sandwell, north-west of Birmingham,

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has had its share from dodgy roofers to shady double-glazing

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salesmen. Today the team are out with Sandwell's resident PC pl Mr

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Drew on a neighbourhood inspection. The reason to do the neighbourhood

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patrols is one if is reassurance for the community, that someone is

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out there looking out for the rogues, protecting the interests of

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the consumers. Two, if we it is better for to us catch them in the

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act! This neighbourhood is a known doorstep crime hot spot.

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Anyone seen working here can expect I don't know if you are aware that

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this is a no-trader zone. So we do regular inspections. So anyone

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working on the property we stop and have a word with them. I work for a

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company. The officers are satisfied that

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this man is legitimate, but it turns out that the client has past

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experience of rogue traders. Someone ripped her off �500.

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Victims of rogue trade remembers targeted repeatedly. The criminals

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have ways of letting each other know which houses are vulnerable to

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scams. They would put markers on the house,

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such as chalking a symbol by the house that would absign to other

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rogues to show it is an easy target. Now it is known that they will sell

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on details of the houses to other rogues.

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That is called a sucker list. A lot of the time, once they have been

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targeted again it may not be by the same person, but a vast array of

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different people. Back in the neighbourhood, Mark

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catches up with a lady who had dealings with a serious rogue. She

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was nearly conned into paying this man, Mr O'Brien, �3,000 for roofing

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work. I felt I was foolish. I was annoyed

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as I had been taken in like that. I am not usually so gullible, but

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just at that time I was vulnerable. I had lost my husband. I didn't

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have anyone to do the work. So I didn't know quite where to turn.

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Oh, dear. Luckily, Mrs Simpson did not hand

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over money, but many did. Including a victim who payed a whops �90,000

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for a job worth just �1,9 hundreds. Following a lengthy investigation,

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O'Brien and his gang were jailed for a total of 15 years.

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I am not usually vindictive, but I was pleased about that. They had

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defrauded so many people. Today we have seen no other such

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criminals at work in the neighbourhood, but only constant

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vigilance will keep it that way. I'm so, in some ways disappointed

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we have not caught anyone in the act, but on the other side it is

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good. Maybe the rogue trader zones and the routine neighbourhood

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inspections are putting them off from coming to Sandwell. We can

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only hope. Sadly, the chances of keeping all

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rogues off the streets are slim. We discovered this when covering a

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neighbourhood team tracking down a conartist, trying to concouple from

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�3,500. First more from Rani Price. Lots of you have been in touch

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about our story on car insurance and auto renewal quotes. Andrew

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told us his monthly premiums went up to �535 a month when his

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insurance was renewed. He called the provider, it was reduced to

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just �380. Others missed the renewal and were stung with

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cancellation charges. You can contact us throughout the programme

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about any of the subjects that we are covering. The details of how to

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do so are on the screens now. Have you bought a gym membership, a

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magazine subscription or loan and given credit card details? The

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arrangement may seem convenient, but it can be difficult to get out

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By law, should the banks cancel if they request it? Not according to

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Telephone banking, online accounts and mobile phone app, s. We can

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check balances and make payments 24 hours a day, seven day as week.

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Giving us time to plan and control the money in our accounts, but

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people are struggling with continuous payment authority. Or

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CPA. Mr Finn banks with the Co-op. I was checking the bank account. I

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found a couple of transactions that I did not recognise. I rang the

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bank to find out who they were and what the transactions were, what

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they involved. Then the bank told me that they were continuous

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authority transactions from a company that I had subscribed to.

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These are deals that you agree to on the phone or online. Sometimes

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face-to-face. Basically, you are agreeing to them taking a future

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payment from your credit or debit card. It is not to pay for

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something now, but to pay for it in the future. Like a magazine

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subscription or next year's car insurance or a pay day loan.

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are setting up permission to take money from your account

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indefinitely. It is crucial to have the power to stop them.

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David tried to do that. I had never heard of the companies.

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I did not know how to contact them, but the bank said it was up to me

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to cancel them. I -- they didn't have the authority to do so.

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But EU directives say that the co Co-op and all other banks can halt

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the payments. All you have to do is to tell the

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bank or card provider to stop.it under the law it must do that the

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law is absolutely clear. It has been clear since November, 2009.

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David did I manage to track down the company, the CPA was cancelled,

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but other views complained that their banks refused to stop the

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continuous payments going out. So who is not playing by the rules?

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Who is playing by the rules? Over the course of a day, Mystery

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Shoppers made three kales to nine UK retail banking providers. The

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ske asked was this: I have a continuous payment authority? It is

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a regular instalment coming from the card. I was wondering if the

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bank could cancel that? The correct answer is "yes", but what advice

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were the banks giving? First Lloyds? You cancel it through the

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company. Any debit card payments, you have to cancel it with the

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company. .No! The bank can and should cancel

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it straight away. In fact, on two out of three calls made to Lloyds,

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the advice given to the Mystery Shoppers was incorrect. Next up,

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Halifax. The same question, three different answers. This adviser got

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it right. You can just ring us. Go online if

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you use the online banking or do it in the branch.

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But as for the other two... block transactions to certain

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companies, but there would abreason for that.

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Not true! You don't have to give a reason at all.

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That's the thing. You can only cancel it via the company.

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Wrong again it can be cancelled through the bank. As for NatWest,

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Barclays and Santander... Cancel it with the company first of all.

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the card details they authorise it as a transactions, we could not

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stop.that you have authorised them to take the payments from the

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account. I think that you have to ring them to cancel it with them.

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Each gave incorrect advice on one out of three owe cations, but the

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worst performer on the test was HSBC. All three advisers on all

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three calls gave wrong information. What I suggest you do is get in

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contact with the company first of all. That is something you have to

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speak to the company about. It is a recurring transaction it would be

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difficult to cancel it you have to do it with them.

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In total we were given wrong advice in 11 out of the 27 calls. One

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adviser at RBS could not help. We would not say over the telephone,

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but a branch could look at it to see what they can do for you.

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Two nat West and Santander had advisers who did not know what a

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CPA was... Well, what I have heard, yeah, it is one of those they keep

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taking out, you cannot cancel it. would not know how to do that.

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Really? Some banks clearly need to acquaint themselves with the rules.

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If the bank does not stop the payments coming out it has to

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refund you with any future payments and any charges that may be incured

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if one sends you overdrawn. The charges must be refunded. The law

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is absolutely clear about that. So rather worrying results there.

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What did the banks say about it all? Well, RBS, Barclays, nat West,

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Halifax all apologised and reminded staff of proper procedure. As have

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Santander who have taken action to ensure that they give customers the

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right information. HSBC are working to improve the processes. They add

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that customers can cancel continuous payments and say they

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will refund payments taken after the cancellation date.

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The Co-op apologised to Mr Finn for the inconvenience kased and will be

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addressing the issues -- caused. And most banks advised customers to

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inform the merchant that the payment has been cancelled.

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Earlier we saw Sandwell trading -- Society of Motor Manufacturers &

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Traders officers in an attempt to catch con membership in the act. We

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joined people in Dudley, when they attempted to intervene a couple

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trying to give away thousands to a conman.

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The investigation teams work is wide and varied.

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What are you doing? Dropping off the leaflets.

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While on patrol they will talk to anyone that they see canvassing in

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the area. We have stopped you because you are

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leafletting. They examine the leaflets and the fliers to ensure

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that the contact details are genuine.

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It has a unit address. Traders don't use this. There is no

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postcode on the address either. For the officers here, this work is

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routine, but before returning to the office they receive a report of

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a rapid response call. There has been a skaul with regards

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to a vulnerable -- a call with regards to a vulnerable consumer

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with regards to winning a lottery. This is a trademark of a scammer.

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The officers have to get all of the details of this.

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You received a phone call? Yes, the first man to give me a name was a

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Mr James Blake from New York City. From Madison Avenue. I was told I

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had won �200,000, on filling in the back of a chocolate wrapper.

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I don't remember it. About a year ago. We went to or were contacted

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by a Mr James Baker. Who, I am led to believe, was in Heathrow. He was

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a customs officer. But, as is the case, there was a

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catch to receiving this �200,000. Did you have to send them a cheque?

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Yes, I did. I sent a cheque for �900. It was

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something to do with transporting a lot of money into the country you

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have to pay some sort of legal tax. I didn't catch it or understand it

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properly. So, have you sent the cheque off?

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Yes. The couple had handed over �900 and

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were now asked to pay a further amount in order to get their

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winnings. They have asked for �2,600. That is why I was to the

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bank to find out how to get it done. For the team this begins to sound

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like a serious scam. Dudley's principal Trading Standards officer

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arrives to break the news to the couple. Is there a problem?

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think you are being robbed, to be blunt. You have not won a prize at

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all. Somebody is telling you lies to send the money.

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He is coming here to deliver the winnings and then he pace you?

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is right. I could have gotten the bank to pay

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the money, but I started to get nervous it was �2,600.

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You are right to be nervous, I think that they are robbing you.

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for get the winnings? Yes, forget the holiday! It would keep going on,

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until you had no money left. That is what they do. Roger wanted to

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forget it in the start. I thought, I if -- if I have won something, I

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want it. I was sceptical. Everything that he has told you

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there is false it is fiction.. more I listened to what he said,

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the mother I was suspicious. It has upset me to think that I was

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foolish enough to fall for it. We are certain that this is a

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criminal scam. I think that everyone who has attended the

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property has been affected by what they have seen it is a very sad

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situation. Older people grew up in times when the scams were not as

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prolific as they are now. They are trusting. They take things on face

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value. They can be easy targets for criminal scammers. Scammers who

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have absolutely no morals. They are the lowest of the low. They will

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keep coming and keep coming until they take all of their money.

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a sad story. There is more to come. After meeting that couple, the

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officers persuaded them to take part in an operation to catch those

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responsible. That led to remarkable phone calls, as you will see later

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on. Now, though, we are returning to the car insurance. We have seen

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how some of the biggest companies are penalising loyal customers for

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drivers who let them renew insurance automatically, but then

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offering lower rates if they leave and come bass as -- back as new

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customers. How do they justify it? So, I am joined by Malcolm Tarling

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from the Association of British Insurers. Why is this happening?

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The insurers don't do this as a ruse to sneak high premiums in the

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back door. They are doing it to ensure that the customers are

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insured when the policy comes up for renewal. If they don't, then

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you could have me here sitting on the seat trying to justify a

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process where they are not insured. True, but Mark Croucher, his

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premium went up so much, then he goes back as a new customer, he has

:26:49.:26:54.

his insurance offered as a -- at a lower rate. It does not make sense?

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They do not want to penalise good customers, but they have to attract

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new customers. That is what they are there for.

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But there is penalising and chen charging old customers a huge

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amount more? Absolutely. You have to check that a cheaper premium

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reflects the cover. So a cheaper premium could come at a price in

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that there is a higher excess. You may find also that the existing

:27:23.:27:27.

cover provides benefits for legal expenses that a new policy, coming

:27:27.:27:32.

in at a cheaper price does not do. Some people will think that the

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companies are just thinking that perhaps the customers will not

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notice? Automatic renewals are made clear on the renewal notice that

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the customers receives, two to three weeks before the policy is up

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for renewal. Insurers have to make it clear. You have to read that to

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notice and check. If it is automatically renewed you have

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three weeks to shop around. Make a decision, vote with your feet.

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Motorinsurance is competitive. Take advantage of that

:28:03.:28:05.

Malcolm Tarling, thank you very much.

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Lots more of you have been in touch about the story and are unhappy

:28:10.:28:15.

with the treatment you are receiving at the hands of insurers.

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Dawn said: I phoned to cancel my ins. I -- insurance, I made a

:28:22.:28:28.

complaint. Heather said: It took six phone

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calls to cancel my insurance. Now, booking a holiday. Who do you

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book with? I would say budget airlines. You expect them to be

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lower than the normal airlines budget airline speaks for itself.

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Maybe, but does budget mean cheaper? Well, Doctor John Haigh

:28:49.:28:59.
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has been investigating for you. He is our inhouse expert.

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Which kind of airline is cheapest for a family of four going on

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holiday? Will it be budget like easyJet? Or Ryanair? Or will it be

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non-budget like British Airways? Often.the budget airlines do work

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out cheaper. Especially if you are travelling alone with no luggage,

:29:24.:29:28.

but what about a family of four? Obviously with kids it is likely

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that each of you will have 20 kilograms of baggage that must be

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checked in and you will want to sit together so you have to reserve the

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seats it is also nice to have a meal on the flight as well.

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Well, miniature sandwiches would be ridiculous! Let's dot maths! We

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looked at a return flight from London to Malaga at the end of

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November, staying for a week. Paying with a debit card, the fare

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for four people including taxes and Simple enough? The budgets were

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cheaper, but then add in the Ryanair is edging ahead. What about

:30:40.:30:49.
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And finally, a bite to eat? British Airways supply a free inflight meal.

:31:04.:31:14.
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All much these extra costs mean that the total cost of flying with

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Ryanair is a sky-high � 614.72. EasyJet, �554.92. On British

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Airways, well, that is a grounded � 540.646789 the budgets are not so

:31:40.:31:46.

budget friendly now! Of course, it is not going to be cheaper with BA

:31:46.:31:52.

all of the time. We checked eight return flights from London to

:31:52.:31:58.

Malaga over an eight-week period. BA was cheaper than easyJet on one

:31:58.:32:02.

occasion, but they were cheaper than Ryanair on six out of the

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eight occasions. It just goes to show it is always worth doing the

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maths. Before you go, we have found that

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even if you don't book a seat, take any bags or have a meal, easyJet

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can be more xexive than BA for the flights.

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-- expensive. Take this flight from London to

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Amsterdam. Paying with a debit card, the flight with BA is � 384.

:32:40.:32:50.
:32:50.:32:50.

But with easy -- easyJet � 460.92. So easyJet was �apmore. Before you

:32:50.:32:55.

have even started. Not how I define the word budget.

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So, what has been the response from budget airlines? Ryanair were keen

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to point out that their fares were the cheapest. EasyJet say that the

:33:07.:33:11.

Amsterdam example was not representative. That the average

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fare was �50 and 99.99% are cheaper than �200. They say that they offer

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fantastic value and this month are introducing allocated seating on

:33:23.:33:27.

all flights. So families sit together most of the time. BA say

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that they strive to provide the best value for money for the

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customers. For more information on the story or brush up on your maths,

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find out more on the website: Now, back to the unfolding

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financial scam in the West Midlands. Earlier we heard how a couple have

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received a call, saying that they won over �200,000, but had to pay a

:33:51.:33:56.

�900 fee for the winnings to be imported from abroad. After that,

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they were told they had to pay a further �2,600 in taxes before

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collecting the money. Shefalia Oza takes up the story now.

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Well, after that second demand for payment, the couple became

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suspicious and called in the Trading Standards Officers to

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investigate. They confirmed it was a scam, but they managed to

:34:20.:34:24.

persuade the coup toll play along in order to find out more about the

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thieves' identities. Here is what happened next.

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It is 9.toam at Sandwell Trading Standards. PC Drew sets off to the

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couple's home. Theres with a phone call at 10.00am.

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We are seeing if a cheque is to be delivered. To see if it happens. We

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are then in a position to react to So, we are here on time? Yes.

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It looks or sounds too good to be true, then it is.

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So, the wait begins. Then 45 minutes later. The voice of a

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fraudster... Hello! This is Mr Baker calling on

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contacting you on behalf of the customs in London. Obviously today

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is the day of your delivery for the I shall be here.

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The first call is over. It is time for a debrief.

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He does believe that I have the cheque here for �2,600. That is

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what he is interested in. He wants the money. He wants to get his

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hands on that. You have to say that when you give

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the curer your money, that you get your cheque. He will probably say

:36:08.:36:11.

that they need the cheque to clear before they can release the cheque

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 52 seconds

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It turns out that PC Drew was right. The conman is saying before the

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couple receive the so-called winnings, they have to send off the

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cheque for �2,600, but there are no winnings.

:37:26.:37:36.
:37:36.:37:39.

Hello? Another call. This time the mysterious James Baker employs a

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:37:49.:38:00.

classic fraudster's tactic. He has good reason for wanting his

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would-be victim to keep quiet. Telling anyone he is handing over

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:38:16.:38:41.

cash, could alert them to the scam. Thank you very much.

:38:41.:38:45.

Goodbye. If you had won money there would be

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no reason to pay up-front at all. They are asking for this money now

:38:50.:38:56.

in an envelope in cash. If it were a genuine company, there would be

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none of this. We want to call a halt to this now it will not go

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further in relation to you. It is wrong for him to pester you in the

:39:06.:39:09.

way that they are. The officers have heard enough to

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be convinced that this is part of a large-scale fraud. They are now to

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lies with the police in the area, to -- liaise with the police in the

:39:19.:39:25.

area to work out who the criminals are and where they are op.rating

:39:25.:39:35.
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from. Meanwhile, it is time for this victim to say enough is enough.

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Do not ring me again. Is there a chance of getting my �900, please?

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The fraudster appears taken aback by the victim's response, but he

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quickly composes himself and has a last attempt at persuading him to

:40:16.:40:26.
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part with another �2,of00. I'm going to ring off. I do not

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want you to ring me again, please. Thank you very much.

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He said he feels sorry for me! is finished now, as far as I'm

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concerned. So, the matter for this couple is finally put to bed.

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They've been conned out of �900, but it could have been so much more.

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It is a shame that people feel that they can prey on people in their

:41:14.:41:19.

pngs abl age and fleece them from money -- pension abl age. Fleece

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them of this money. There are lines of inquiry to follow up.

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Well, Chris King from the Dudley Trading Standards joins me now. We

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saw you protecting that couple. Have you any updates on this

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scammer? We have been unable to find the scammer in this case. The

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police have followed a trail of several victims across the country.

:41:45.:41:50.

As we fear at thetime, the scammer has given false details. He is not

:41:50.:41:55.

resident in the UK. It make it is difficult for us to follow the

:41:55.:41:59.

trail further. We have to stress that the names

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given out in the call, that they were fake. That the man had no

:42:03.:42:07.

connection to the HMRC or the American Government, but we could

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hear how convincing the scam was. How easy is it for people to be

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taken in by this? It is very easy. The people are plausible. Very good

:42:16.:42:20.

at what they do. They are looking for older people, vulnerable people

:42:20.:42:25.

to target in their scams. How much can people lose? I came

:42:25.:42:32.

across someone who lost �9,000, but we have already heard of people

:42:32.:42:36.

losing over half a million pounds to the scammers.

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My goodness. Thank you very much.

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An awful story there, Shefalia Oza. Thank you very much to everyone who

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has been in touch with us today. That is all that we have time for

:42:45.:42:48.

this morning. The deliveries that don't arrive

:42:48.:42:51.

and the ones that do but like this. We investigate Yodel. Plus, foreign

:42:51.:42:57.

currency. Does getting the best exchange deal depend on your post

:42:57.:43:00.

code? And on patrol with the Consumer Cops as they bring down a

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