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Welcome to Watchdog Daily. We're with you, live, for the next 45

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minutes, taking on the companies, big and small, whose service, value

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and promises fail to measure up. This morning: the deliveries that

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don't arrive and the ones that do. But like this, thanks yodel. Plus,

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the Post Office, Thomas Cooke, different post codes, different

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exchange rates for holiday cash and easyJet baggage charges, same

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airport, same destination, four different prices. Also on the

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programme: on patrol with the Consumer Cops as they bring down a

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counterfeit trading ring. You are under arrest.

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First, yodel, one of the UK's biggest curiour companies, if you

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have ordered a product online, chances are they have brought it to

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your door, or maybe they haven't. We've had complaints about non-

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deliveries and when parcels have turned up, you've been amazed at

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the way they're sometimes handled. Yodel make big claims about their

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service. Rani Price has been putting these to the test. Ushering

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in a delivery revolution a detailed understanding of customer needs.

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With most delivery services stubbornly refusing to change their

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ways, we saw an opportunity to do things differently.

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Nice quotes, Yodel, far nices than the ones we've been hearing about

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your service. From customers like jor jet, the teaching assistant who

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ordered a jacket on Sports Direct by Amazon Payments. She paid the

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money. Received the delivery instructions. But Never received

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the coat. She wasn't at home and nor was anyone else, so who had

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signed for it? According to Yodel's online tracking information someone

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called Floyd. She is adamant she doesn't know anyone called Floyd.

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don't know anyone called floit. I was disappointed never to receive

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the coat. -- employed. contacted the delivery company who

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refused to believe her. When I rang Yodel, they said there was nothing

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they could do. I was annoyed they weren't listening and didn't want

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to answer questions. Luckily Am zn Payments did believe her and give

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her a refund. -- Amazon. For zap yodel it was a case of her word

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against theirs. But what if you could prove they were not telling

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the truth. -- Yodel. Angela could, she oordered two pay stations from

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ACE for her twin daughter's birthdays. I ordered them, we

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decided to order them well in advance to give us enough time for

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their birthdays. The delivery day came and went but still no sign of

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the Nintendos. So Angela turned detective. I checked my e-mails to

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see where the deliveries were, because I hadn't heard anything.

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And when I checked one apparently had been delivered and signed for

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and the other one was still stuck in warehouse somewhere. I checked

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online on Yodel's tracking website. It said it was delivered at 11.00am

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on 119 October. Luckily, Angela had a secret weapon.

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Yes, a CCTV camera. It monitors all comings and goings throughout the

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day. And it was clear, no delivery van, no delivery man, and no

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Nintendo. When I checked and discovered that

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we were obviously having a problem, with them being delivered, my heart

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sank because they are not cheap. And then it was a case of - well

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their birthday is just a few days away and what are we going to do

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with presents I've already paid for and how am I going to get

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substitutes? As Angela could prove that she didn't receive the parcel,

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ACE have since refunded her but once again, no thanks to Yodel. So

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that's non-delivery. But what if your parcel does actually arrive?

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Well one viewer has caught that on camera, too. Rob is a man who loves

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lenses. He works with them, holidays with them and even has

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them on the side of his house. reason we have CCTV is for the

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safety of the property and with the job I do, we've go the equipment

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here and it's come in useful with the incident we've had with Yodel

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recently. Rob ordered a new router from Virgin media in March. The

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good news, it arrived early. The bad news... When we returned home

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we came to the front door to find a note through the letterbox with

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Yodel on it. So we assumed we'd missed the parcel. But when we

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actually read it, it said the parcel had been left in a safe

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place. So where was the safe place where they'd left this fragile

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piece of technical equipment? Here, over the fence and on top of the

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bin. Yodel later apologised, admitting this wasn't the way the

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parcel should have been delivered but four weeks later, Rob ordered

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another piece of fragile kit, this time from Amazon. I ordered 3 D

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video cameras. As somebody who relies on these tools for my living,

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I obviously take care of my goods. You are but it turns out Amazon

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also used Yodel as their courier, which despite their earlier apoll

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r ji, delivered his video camera like this -- apology.

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Ye, over the fence on to the bin and on to the concrete floor.

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sent this film to Yodel. They once again apologised. With this

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incident happening twice within a month and despite promises of the

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fact that this wouldn't happen, it leaves me to believe that this

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problem runs deeper than just, you know, a single courier that it not

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doing his job properly. As to whether it'll happen again, I don't

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no. The suppliers we used that delivered the products with Yodel I

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hadn't used since. Well Rani is up in the mailroom looking through

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phonecalls and texts. What did Yodel say? They say they

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investigate complaints and do not tolerate poor service. They

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delivered more than 170 million packages last year and as with any

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operation with that size they are occasional issues. They apologise

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for these and promise appropriate and robust action to prevent any

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repetition. They say they're committed to training and have

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undergone reorganisation and restructure to ensure customer

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service standards. Stkpwhraipbt retailers who are featured -- and

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the retailers who use, Yodel, what do they say? We have spoken to

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Virgin and Express Deliveries o who run the ACE website. They apologise

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for concern they say they take customer service and feedback

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seriously. If you would like to comment, here is a reminder of how

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Or you can join the discussion on twitter. The address and hashtag

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are on the screen. All this week our cameras are following the work

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of Trading Standards officers in the Midlands. Yesterday we saw how

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the team prevented one elderly couple from handing over �2,6thound

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lottery skaerms. Today we are back with the so-called Consumer Cops. -

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- �2,600 to Lottery scammers. The UK economy may have had a tough

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time in the last few years but one section that has been booming is

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the counterfeit industry from. Bogus perfumes and cosmetics to

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DVDs and clothes, there are plenty of goods being knocked-off and sold

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to unsuspected customers but counterfeiting has a more sinister

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side. Experts believe some of the proceeds can be used to fund

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organised crime, which makes it a top priority for Sandwell Trading

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Standards working behind the scenes to seek out the goods and remove

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them from sale. It is market day here in Sandwell. From tracksuits

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to toys, a huge variety of products are on sale. Trading Standards

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officers Tone, and Samantha only have eyes for some and within

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moments, they spot some Trading Standards, doing a quick inspection.

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That's counterfeit. Seize them. It's a registered

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trademark. You haven't got permission to use this, have you?.

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You can't put them in the bin I will seize them. At first glance

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this Superman lighter could be authentic but the officers don't

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believe it is. Using the branged of a well-known company without

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permission is illegal. -- branding. If a trader is caught doing it,

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they could end newspaper prison for up to ten years and or face an

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unlimited fine. -- could end up in prison.

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I'll have to seize these, OK. What we have got here is a mobile phone

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case beg the Jack Daniels logo which is a registered trademark.

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Again, this would be in breach of the Trade Marks Act. I have to have

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this one as well. This one? need a licence to replicate any of

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the brands and he just said to me that he doesn't have a licence. I'm

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going to go back and submit them to the appropriate registered trade

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marks and get it confirmed whether they are counterfeit or no. I know

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from personal experience they will be. Tone has been trained to

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recognise counterfeit goods. He looks out for what price the

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product is being sold for. Fakes are cheaper than the real thing. He

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looks at the product being sold and its quality. Does it look like the

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type of product the brand would be endorsing? And finally, is he

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surprised by the type of shop and stall the goods are being sold from.

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In this case he is certain the litters and phone cases are fake.

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-- the lighters. They were quite frightened, as you can see from the

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reaction. According to the stall holder, that stall belonged to his

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brother. His brother is on holiday and he is helping out. He is not

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happy with his brother. It is quite a small amount compared it other

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seizures we have done but npbls we caused disruption to the

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counterfeiters. -- but nonetheless. They are about to cause trouble

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elsewhere as they spotted another stall selling suspect fakes.

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Unfortunately for Tone and Samantha, this market trading isn't quite so

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willing to co-operate. I'm going to take them away now, seize them off

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yourself. It doesn't matter, it is against

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It is a mistake but we need to seize them. That's the law, I'm

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afraid. The trader is desperate to persuade Tone not to remove his

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products but he has a job to do. Whether it is a mistake or not we

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have to seize them. I'm not going to get into a debate with you. I

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don't what you pay to the council. We are going to take it off you.

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Are you going to stop us? Are you going to stop me taking the

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items off you? OK, that's fair enough. Tone, and

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Samantha hand the trader a list of what they have seized. They tell

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him they can use this when trying to get the money back from the

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supplier. That was quite a hostile environment. Thankfully we don't

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usually get it. I'm not really sure what more you can do, really, to

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try to make the situation better. Considering it is a fairly small

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amount, the chances are we will advise caution but it depends what

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else comes out of any investigation. Next time, you know what to do.

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have to go back and do a search on the two traders. Now if they have

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been advised before and this is the second time we will be looking to

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take the matter further. If it is the first offence, it is likely

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we'll offer advice on this occasion. Well, following that seizure all

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the goods were confirmed as fakes. The team are currently trying to

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identify the suppliers of one of the branded lighters and

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investigations are continuing. A successful sting, then, but for

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officers in neighbouring Birmingham, things aren't often as

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straightforward as savally reports later on.

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-- sav alley. Before that anup date from Rani. A reaction to our story

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on Yodel. Many of you e-mailing in with your experiences. We will

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check them out but Dan from Blackpool has told us he went into

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his bank to cancel a regular payment for online subscription

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service but was told it couldn't be cancelled. The - he was told he had

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to cancel it with the company direct. Dan said it was only

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because he got angry that they finally agreed to cancel it.

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Another viewer emailed in to say he was told by his bank, that the only

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way to cancel his regular payment was to cancel his card and order a

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new one. They are responses from yesterday's stories. Remember,

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banks are obliged by law to cancel a payment if you request it. Don't

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take no for an answer. Think being going abroad at Christmas? What

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about holiday cash? With the likes of Post Office, Travelex and IEC

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offering attractive rates, it's hard to work out where is best to

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exchange your pound sterling for foreign currency. Even more

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confusingly, some of those companies even offer different

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rates at different branches as our mystery shoppers have been finding

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The foreign currency exchange market is a volatile and fast

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moving world when no two seconds are the same. Rates change

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constantly as does the growing number of outlets available. If you

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want to avoid the worst deals, plan ahead. If you have to much money

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and you do not know quite what to do with it, here is an easy

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solution. Take it to and airport bureau de change. They will help

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themselves to your wallet. You will get an atrocious rate. That is the

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worst thing you can do. The best thing to do is to shop around.

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Buying currency outside the airport has its problems. Donald went to

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buy �400 worth of euros from his local High Street. I went to the

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post office and saw an exchange rate of 1.23 euros. I thought that

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looked good and exchanged my �400. The woman at the counter gave me

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just 460 euros, approximately, which was less than the exchange

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rate on the outside. I thought they had short changed me a little bit.

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I went and checked and saw that on the board it noted there was a

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minimum exchange of �1,000 to get you �1.23. The more money you

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exchange, the better the rate. That is true of the Post Office and most

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high street rivals. You need to look out for that when converting

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your sterling. Our team compared the rates of seven of the biggest

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currency exchange providers in the UK. Because rates fluctuate

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constantly, they had to do this on one single day. Each asked the same

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question. Can you help me with an exchange rate? I have �500 sterling

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and need to convert it euros. Corp gave me 605 euros. Thomas Cook

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gave me 598 euros. Thomson will give me 560 euros. The best offer

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was a ICE. The worst was Travelex. That is a difference of up to 39

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euros, depending on which company you choose to buy it from.

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Different exchange rates from different companies are to be

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expected. What about various branches of the same company?

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Thomson ING Glasgow offered 613 euros. In London, they offered 600

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euros - 13 euros less in London. The same wave ICE. -- with. Thomas

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Coke in Birmingham and Cardiff, 607.50 euros. They only our third

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573 in Manchester, 33 euros less. It is a bit like petrol. In a

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competitor and you will find that prices are very good. If you go

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somewhere there Rab one or two petrol stations, they will probably

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charge more. How do you explain differences within the same cities?

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Take Thomas Cook. In Marble Arch in London, we were offered 600 euros

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for �500 sterling. In Islington, it was 590 euros. And ICE, in

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Shepherd's Bridge, they offered 600 euros. At Earls Court, they offered

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13 euros more. I think there are still some people around who

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believed the exchange rate is handed down by God or government

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and that is the bait and it applies everywhere. It does not. -- the

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rate. You have to be in good consume and make sure you stretch

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fallible holiday cash as far as you can. There are vast discrepancies.

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-- valuable holiday cash. Among the most confusing of the providers was

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at the Post Office. One recalled the central number to find a debate

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in Manchester and sub Hanton that day, we were told... 118. --

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Southampton. When speaking to the branches, we be given a different

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rate. 120. We sent our shoppers on a whirlwind trip around the UK.

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Actually, they would have been better off staying where they were.

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They went as far afield as Edinburgh as -- and Southampton but

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the best rate was in Camden in London. They got 603 euros for �500.

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The worst deal was a few miles down the road in Auld which, whether

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Post Office offered just 590 euros. It depends on many things -

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including your own local post code. Interesting stuff there. And some

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interesting responses, too. Travelex now say one of their

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branches in London got their information wrong when talking to

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our mystery shoppers. When trying to change our �500,we should have

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been quoted 577 euros - not 573. They may offer a price match

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Senna's if you find a better deal elsewhere. Most companies accept

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that they offer better rates to customers ordering online. And say

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the varying rates on offer in branches are due to local

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competition and operational costs. The Post Office say they do offer

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different exchange rates depending on the amount of money purchased

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but they make this clear on all their ads. Staff are also trained

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to advise customers of the best rates available. Joining me now,

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Richard Lloyd from Which? Were you surprised? Most people are shocked

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to learn that if you go to the same outlet you can be charged a

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different amount. It is a postcode lottery. It is unfair on busy

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people trying to get ready for their holidays. We do not have much

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time to shop around. It is really confusing, isn't it? Not only

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differences between outlets in different parts of the country that

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differences between online and in store purchases. We have found a

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great difference of 5% on foreign currency by buying online or buying

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it in a different part of the country. We gave our shoppers quite

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a bit of time to check out the deals. What is the quickest way to

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find out the best deals? Do not leave it to the airport, till the

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last minute. Go online and check the rates on a price comparison

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site and find out the best deal available. Use that when you go in

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store and challenge the supplier and get a better deal. You say do

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not leave it to you get to the airport. Lots of people leave it

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later than that and take their credit cards and debit cards. Is

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that more expensive? It is easy to get money out from a cash machine

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overseas. You will be hit with a fee and a less good exchange rate

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by doing it that way. You need to check the small print with your

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card provider before doing that. Just shop around and try to get the

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best deal before you head for the airport. We are talking petrol

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prices. The average amount we pay for petrol and diesel still falls

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within 4p of the record prices. It is currently 138.9 pence for

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unleaded. It is no wonder that fuel prices have risen a fan to beat the

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number one consumer concern right now. -- -- have risen again to beat

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the number one consumer concern. There have been hints that the

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Chancellor is reconsidering his plans for raising the fuel duty.

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Diesel is selling in some parts for 156.9 pence a litre pulls that they

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are the most expensive prices we have heard about. -- a litre. Biddy

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tells of how to do that are on your screens now. -- at the details.

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are returning to Birmingham now, where Trading Standards officers

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are trying to stem the tide of fake goods coming in to the UK.

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Birmingham, like most cities, has long been a counterfeiting hot-spot.

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But those who take part in the trade are increasingly coming under

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surveillance and can expect their goods to be seized. It is 11am in

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the second largest city in Britain. Trading standards investigators

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have a market trader in their sights - a dealer who is known to

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them. We have spotted the guy before in the past. That case is

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ongoing. It has come to our attention again - allegedly selling

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counterfeit goods again. We are visiting again. If it is

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counterfeit, we will seize it and do with it as a criminal matter.

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Adam is leading today's team. They need to do some surveillance before

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they move in. They have gone past the store and there are three white

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males around it. The dealers are suspicious. This group seems to

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know it is being watched. As we passed, they began to pack away. It

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does not give us the opportunity to arrange any police assistance. We

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will have to deal with it ourselves was de a female officer goes on

:26:13.:26:18.

ahead. By the time Adam arrives, she has identified a number of

:26:18.:26:28.

suspect items. I have got the seats for these. It will be the usual

:26:28.:26:34.

sort of visit. -- receipts. The book goes through your stock and

:26:34.:26:44.
:26:44.:26:45.

have a look. Anything we think is counterfeit, we will advise you.

:26:45.:26:49.

Trading standards believe there could be more goods inside a van

:26:49.:26:57.

which is just about to be driven off by one of the suspected

:26:57.:27:05.

accomplices. Pull over! The ban has gone. The other than was associated

:27:05.:27:10.

with the stall. My colleagues tried to block the vehicle. The parking

:27:10.:27:17.

was not the best and he did manage to get it out and away. There is

:27:17.:27:24.

still a pile of suspected fakes on the stall. These include big brand

:27:24.:27:30.

names. We are sending off samples for examination. If they are

:27:30.:27:33.

counterfeit, you will be interviewed and able to give your

:27:33.:27:40.

side of the story. Just what is his side of the story? I was trying to

:27:40.:27:47.

pay my bills. I am not a Mastermind criminal, or anything like that. I

:27:47.:27:57.
:27:57.:27:57.

have got bills to pay. I am just taking no money. It is ridiculous.

:27:57.:28:03.

I appreciate your co-operation. Later examination confirmed that

:28:03.:28:07.

Giggs seized were all fake. The officers will take investigations

:28:07.:28:12.

forward to the interview stage. Trading standards officers may be

:28:12.:28:17.

the first line of defence against counterfeiters but they also rely

:28:17.:28:25.

on the play's full back-up, especially when arrests are to be

:28:25.:28:34.

made. -- at the police for back-up. How much I your headphones? �10.

:28:34.:28:43.

�10, thank you. Nick is with two undercover police officers. He

:28:43.:28:48.

comes across suspect designer Audere beer. Let go back and buy

:28:48.:28:58.
:28:58.:29:00.

some headphones. -- Road audio ear. They are labelled as Beats. The

:29:00.:29:05.

low-price here means they are almost certainly break. It is time

:29:05.:29:14.

to break cover. -- fake. We are from trading standards and we will

:29:14.:29:24.
:29:24.:29:35.

He has been arrested and he is bailed for that. He will have to

:29:35.:29:42.

come back at a date in the future. Rather than taking him into custody.

:29:42.:29:51.

We still have inquiries to make as to the legitimacy of the headphones.

:29:51.:29:54.

We have since learned from the manufacturer, Beats, that the

:29:54.:29:57.

headphones you saw there are counterfeit. The suspect is on bail

:29:57.:30:00.

and due to be interviewed later this week. We'll have more on those

:30:00.:30:04.

counterfeit seizures later in the programme. Now, if you saw our item

:30:04.:30:07.

on budget airlines yesterday, where we revealed that flying with them

:30:07.:30:09.

can sometimes work out more expensive than with a mainstream

:30:09.:30:13.

carrier, then you'll be interested in this - easyJet baggage charges.

:30:13.:30:17.

We checked the price of checking in a bag on ten return flights to

:30:17.:30:19.

Malaga. Same bag. Same weight. Departing from the same airport -

:30:19.:30:23.

London Gatwick. At the same times. And on the same day of the week.

:30:23.:30:27.

But the cost of checking in the bag was different. Why? Because of the

:30:27.:30:37.
:30:37.:30:38.

dates we wanted to fly. Just look We started on invest 3, checking in

:30:38.:30:43.

a bag would cost �29. A we can later, the same flight, it goes up

:30:43.:30:48.

to �30. Then we monitored it to December 8th. It drops down to �28

:30:48.:30:52.

and then what would happen if you want to check in the bag on a flit

:30:52.:30:57.

to malgo in the run-up to Christmas, well easyJet rack up their prices

:30:57.:31:04.

to a whopping �32, per bag, each way. I understand why the flights

:31:04.:31:09.

go up, more people want to travel before Christmas.

:31:09.:31:14.

But the weight is the same of the bag. They said prices vary because

:31:14.:31:18.

of the seasonality. They didn't explain why but said their charges

:31:18.:31:22.

are competitive and passengers can take their baggage on it the cabin

:31:22.:31:26.

for free, that's of course if it fits into the luggage gauge. Thank

:31:26.:31:30.

you very much. If you spot any other strange and confusing airline

:31:30.:31:35.

charges, please let us know. We'd love to hear from you. Earlier we

:31:35.:31:42.

saw how the delifry company -- delivery company Yodel has

:31:42.:31:47.

frustrated people with services, but what do you do if they fail to

:31:47.:31:57.
:31:57.:31:58.

deliver. Today's professor expert, Margaret Griffiths has the answers.

:31:58.:32:06.

The delivery arrives but it's not quite what I wanted.

:32:06.:32:10.

Never fear, there is something called a Distance Selling

:32:10.:32:14.

reregulation and because I bought this online, I can cancel my order

:32:14.:32:18.

any time from the time I placed the order until seven working days

:32:18.:32:22.

after the goods have arrived. So I can get my money back. I can even

:32:22.:32:26.

take the goods out of the packaging and examine them closely, just like

:32:26.:32:30.

I would in the shop and still get my money back.

:32:30.:32:33.

But I need to be careful because there are a couple of items to

:32:33.:32:38.

which the regulations don't apply. They don't apply to CDs, DVDs and

:32:38.:32:41.

software, where the seal on the packaging has been broken and they

:32:41.:32:47.

don't apply to perishable gods such as food or anything which has been

:32:47.:32:54.

tailor-made or personalised. Now what if your product turns up but,

:32:54.:32:59.

oh, it's broken? Well, never fear because under a different piece of

:32:59.:33:05.

legislation called the Sale of Gods Act the goods are supposed to be of

:33:05.:33:08.

satisfactory quality and fit for purpose which clearly this isn't.

:33:08.:33:12.

Who do I contact? The delivery company or the retailer? Even if

:33:12.:33:16.

you think it might be the delivery company that has broken the item,

:33:16.:33:20.

your contract is with the retailer. You should contact them. It's their

:33:20.:33:23.

responsibility to make sure the goods have arrived safely and in

:33:23.:33:26.

one piece. If they don't, it's up to them to replace them or give you

:33:27.:33:30.

a refund. Then it's up to the retailer to pay for the goods to be

:33:30.:33:34.

returned. Next, what if the goods you have

:33:34.:33:38.

ordered don't arrive at all? Yes, frustrating. Now if you have made

:33:38.:33:43.

an agreement that the goods are going to be delivered between say

:33:43.:33:48.

3-5 and they don't turn up, nothing, then the retailer has breached the

:33:48.:33:50.

contract because you had made time of the essence the contract and

:33:50.:33:54.

they have failed to deliver on time. But don't forget, your contract is

:33:54.:33:59.

with the retailer and not with the delivery company. So it's the

:33:59.:34:03.

retailer you should contact. Now you have, of course, going to need

:34:03.:34:07.

it make an alternative delivery time and it's not unreasonable for

:34:07.:34:10.

you to expect the retailer to deliver the goods at a time that's

:34:10.:34:14.

suitable to you and if, by any chance, you are going to be out of

:34:14.:34:17.

pocket because, for example, you are going to have to take ub un-

:34:17.:34:21.

paid time off work, then -- un-paid time off work, it is reasonable to

:34:21.:34:26.

expect the retailer will refund you for your losses, and that's what is

:34:26.:34:31.

known as consequential loss. It is fair to say it may be more hassle

:34:31.:34:35.

than the worth of it. This has caused inconvenience. One more

:34:35.:34:39.

thing, if you have ordered the goods online and you are fed up of

:34:39.:34:44.

waiting for them, you can of course cancel them under distance selling

:34:44.:34:47.

regulations. Couldn't be clearer, could it? Now if you want more

:34:47.:34:52.

nfrgs on that story, including help -- more information, including

:34:52.:34:57.

writing effective letters of complaint, go to our website:

:34:57.:34:59.

Back now to the Consumer Cops trying to combat counterfeiting

:34:59.:35:03.

rings in the West Midlands. So far they've seized clothes and audio

:35:03.:35:08.

equipment all being sold under fake designer names. But the big money

:35:08.:35:16.

often lies in other products. In Staffordshire, police and

:35:16.:35:18.

Trading Standards officers are preparing for a joint operation at

:35:18.:35:26.

a local car boot sale. ! Nick is going to be in a plain

:35:26.:35:31.

van with the specials. If the van is in line of sight I'll raise my

:35:31.:35:38.

hands in the air so you can see me, Nick can shout, "Go, go, go", you

:35:38.:35:43.

can burst out and we will be stood adjacent to the stalls so we can

:35:43.:35:48.

grab hold of a few bodies. This is the car boot sale in Staffordshire,

:35:48.:35:56.

home to around 100 sellers, more than 1,000 buyers and on previous

:35:56.:35:59.

experience, a number of counterfeit dealers.

:35:59.:36:03.

The police are in charge but relying on Trading Standards

:36:03.:36:08.

investigatorings to feed back intelligence. Very soon they do.

:36:08.:36:13.

The trading standers officers have recognised somebody selling from a

:36:13.:36:20.

small hold all. He has been followed back to a white van and he

:36:20.:36:24.

has been seen to re-stock from that white van. So we're going to call a

:36:24.:36:31.

strike in the next minute or two. Sean waits to hear from the team on

:36:31.:36:36.

the grounds confirm more stock is being loaded from the van. As soon

:36:36.:36:44.

as they do, they give the order to strike. You sunshine are under

:36:44.:36:49.

arrest. Snuer under arrest on suspicion of selling counterfeit

:36:49.:36:55.

DVDs. You do not have to saying anything, when questioned but what

:36:55.:37:01.

you d say may be given in evidence. Have Have a walk over here,

:37:01.:37:06.

sunshine. Is it your van? Yeah. What happened we called the strike.

:37:07.:37:11.

The specials got here earlier than we managed, unfortunately giving

:37:11.:37:15.

them an opportunity to run away them. Didn't get very far. PC Smith

:37:15.:37:19.

and myself managed to detain him. The others are being detained. We

:37:19.:37:22.

believe they're connected to the same stall. They have set up with

:37:22.:37:26.

the strike it. Looks like we have got about four arrested and a lot

:37:26.:37:32.

of stock, so a good hit. They are all the latest Hollywood

:37:32.:37:36.

blockbuster releases. So just what we thought we were going to get, to

:37:36.:37:39.

be honest, the usual stuff. A lot of them are still in the cinemas

:37:39.:37:47.

now, not been released on DVD form at. It also looks like we've got

:37:47.:37:55.

headphones. -- form at. The DVDs are 100% counterfeit. We've had

:37:55.:38:00.

training and it is hard to tell. We have to send it off for testing for

:38:00.:38:03.

fullness of continuity and evidence but we know it is counterfeit.

:38:03.:38:08.

there is also an expected bonus for the investigation team. As well as

:38:08.:38:11.

DVDs, there is this. Tobacco, which is non-duty paid tobacco. Whale

:38:11.:38:20.

pass this on to our colleagues at HM Revenue and Customs to deal with.

:38:20.:38:25.

Duncan has done a search of the van and we've uncovered a lot more non-

:38:25.:38:29.

duty paid tobacco being sold. Counterfeiting can be a lucrative

:38:29.:38:35.

business. After an hour or two on site these dealers seem to be doing

:38:35.:38:38.

very well. All the money out of your pocket. Potentially there is

:38:38.:38:43.

up to �1,000 which why that has been seized under a PACE.

:38:43.:38:46.

Potentially proceeds of crime, in relation it the fact we believe he

:38:46.:38:50.

is involved in the selling of the counterfeit DVDs and other

:38:50.:38:53.

counterfeit items we've recovered from the van. Seven men are

:38:53.:38:57.

arrested as a result of today's raids. While such operations don't

:38:57.:39:00.

always work out so well, this has proved to be a satisfying day's

:39:00.:39:05.

work. We've managed to secure the maximum

:39:05.:39:09.

amount of stock we could. On a personal level it was a really good

:39:09.:39:13.

job. It's always good working with Staffordshire police. As a rough

:39:13.:39:18.

estimate I would say we've got �80,000 worth of disks and then we

:39:18.:39:24.

have a large cardboard box full of cigarettes and lots of hand-rolling

:39:24.:39:27.

tobacco pouches. We are in the region and over �100,000 worth of

:39:27.:39:33.

stock we've seized this morning. Well, here is all of the stock,

:39:33.:39:36.

locked away in the Trading Standards evidence room. With me is

:39:36.:39:40.

Nick who we saw in the film there. Bring us up-to-dit with the

:39:40.:39:44.

investigation and where it is at? - - up-to-date. All the people arrest

:39:44.:39:49.

ready still on bail. We've sent the DVDs off for analysis with the

:39:49.:39:53.

trademark holders and they have come back as counterfeit. The

:39:53.:39:56.

tobacco wasn't counterfeit but it was non-duty paid. So at the

:39:56.:39:59.

conclusion of our investigation we'll send it off to our colleagues

:39:59.:40:04.

at Customs and Excise. As you have said the suspects are on bill and

:40:04.:40:07.

awaiting investigation. We won't know what happens to them for

:40:07.:40:12.

sometime. -- on bail. But what are the penalties for people trading in

:40:12.:40:16.

counterfeit goods? There is a range of penalties, we can just have

:40:16.:40:19.

forfeit tour of the items where we take the items off and any cash.

:40:19.:40:25.

They can be issued with cautions. They can be given community orders

:40:25.:40:29.

or community service. And then, major cases, they can actually

:40:29.:40:33.

receive custodial sentences. suppose most of us can see why

:40:33.:40:35.

trading fakes would be bad for the manufacturers of the genuine

:40:35.:40:39.

products because of the loss financially but what are the issues

:40:39.:40:46.

for consumers? Why should we avoid the temp taifgs bagging a bargain-

:40:46.:40:52.

price product if we think it is fake -- temptation. Obviously they

:40:52.:40:56.

haven't gone through rigorous safety testing and there is the

:40:56.:41:00.

implications that purchasing items like this goes on to fund criminal

:41:00.:41:03.

gangs and criminal activities and you cannot take your item back if

:41:03.:41:08.

there is fault or if you no longer want it. You can't go through

:41:08.:41:11.

legitimate channels. A lot of people go to car boot sales this

:41:11.:41:16.

weekend and no doubt they'll be going this weekend. Do you have

:41:16.:41:21.

tips as to how they can spot a fake? Look for the pricing. If it

:41:21.:41:27.

is massively under-priced for what you would expect. Also look at the

:41:27.:41:32.

text in the packaging, if there is spelling mistakes and grammatical

:41:32.:41:35.

errors, that would indicate it is counterfeit. A dead give-away.

:41:35.:41:38.

Thank you very much. Lots of you getting in touch with us this

:41:38.:41:43.

morning. Thank you very much. Let's go to Rani. Thank you. Some more e-

:41:43.:41:49.

mails on Yodel. A few of you saying you have CCTshr. V. We will be

:41:49.:41:53.

looking at some. -- CCTV. Lots getting in touch about exchange

:41:53.:41:56.

rates. James says it is shocking that different branches of the same

:41:56.:42:01.

company offer you different rates especially when they are a few

:42:01.:42:08.

miles apart. Another viewer told us she went to Turkey. The rates for

:42:08.:42:12.

Turkish liria here were terrible. She took the sterling with her and

:42:12.:42:17.

got a better reaction in court and a lot of unhappy diesel drivers out

:42:17.:42:21.

there. Why is it more expensive than petrol? It used to be the

:42:21.:42:24.

other way around and it is still cheaper in many other countries.

:42:24.:42:28.

Thank you so much for getting in touch. Please keep them coming in.

:42:28.:42:33.

That's all we have time for this morning. Tomorrow: beware of the

:42:33.:42:36.

energy company's bearing gifts. The special deals that could cost you

:42:36.:42:41.

more. Boots, Tesco, could you and gate,

:42:41.:42:47.

easy to join their marketing schemes. -- Cow & Gate. For some,

:42:47.:42:51.

seemingly impossible to leave. And the perils of booking a holiday

:42:51.:42:56.

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