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Hello and welcome to Watchdog Daily. We are with you live for the next | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
40 minutes, taking on businesses big and small. This morning, beware | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
of energy companies bearing gifts. The special deals that could cost | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
you even more. Boots, Tesco, Cow & Gate, the bereaved mums who have | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
tried to leave their mailing lists. Why won't they let them? Getting | :00:58. | :01:04. | |
texts like these? Don't believe all the promises. It's disgusting and | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
I'm not overexaggerating. There's sewage. The smell is awful. | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
perils of booking a holiday with an unlicenced agent. We join the | :01:15. | :01:24. | |
consumer cops taking on the cowboys of the travel trade. First, gas and | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
electricity prices, as winter closes in and we start turning up | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
the heat, five of the six biggest energy providers have decided to | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
raise their prices by up to 10%. The good news, the regulator has | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
stepped in to help the consumer. The bad news, it's unlikely to stop | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
those soaring fuel bills. What sort of action are the Government and | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
Ofgem promising? They say they'll force suppliers to simplify tariffs | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
and tell customers about their cheapest deals, but that won't | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
happen until next summer at the earliest. Until then, we have been | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
advised yet again to shop around for the best deal. It's certainly | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
true you can cut your bills by switching suppliers, but watch out | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
for some of those eye-catching deals, because although they do | :02:10. | :02:20. | |
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look tempting, they could leave you paying more. It's the age-old trick | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
of the sales trade and almost energy supplier has cottoned on. | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
Throw in something special to make us think we're getting a great deal. | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
What do customers think? Are they tempted by the added extras? If it | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
was a case of choosing between two that were the same price and one | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
offered you a perk, yeah, you'll go for that, because everyone's trying | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
to get a bargain and save money where they can. So, yes, you would. | :02:58. | :03:03. | |
I get confused about what is the best deal and what's not. I think | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
there's some kind of catch. Why are they offering a perk? Some of the | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
offers are tempting, but you could end up paying more with a tariff | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
with perks, than if you were to get the cheapest deal and pay exactly | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
the same extras. How much more? Our teams have been dog the sums. Offer | :03:23. | :03:30. | |
the course -- doing the sums. Offer over the course of one day we | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
checked all the tariffs for one address in west London. They found | :03:34. | :03:41. | |
the cheapest overall tariff on the day and that was firstewe tillity. | :03:41. | :03:48. | |
-- first utility. Then donations to charity, or fee vouchers, then they | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
took to the street to ask the public what they thought of the | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
various offers. Looking at all of this on the table, what would you | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
go for? Not the I save one. They don't offer anything. What about | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
that one? I with probably go for the cancer research one, because | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
everyone's affected by it and it's obviously a great way to donate | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
money. Tesco club card vouchers. first glance, the offers were | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
attractive, but would anyone change their mind after they found out | :04:25. | :04:34. | |
what each tariff actually cost? Let's take a look. Firstutility, | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
the cheapest tariff was �1 account 054 for the year, as long as you | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
didn't want to switch within the first three months and it came with | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
no perks. Would any of the other tariffs work out to be better value | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
when you took their perks into account? To find out, we worked out | :04:51. | :04:57. | |
the monetary value of each reward. For npower, they were �45 worth of | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
football vouchers. For Scottish Power, it was a �15 charity | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
donation. E.On offered �94 worth of Tesco clubcard points and as for | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
the energy monitors from British Gas and Southern Electric, they can | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
be bought for �30 each. With detucted the monetary value of the | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
reward -- deducted the monetary value of the ward from the annual | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
costs. Would any of them work out to be better value than the | :05:23. | :05:33. | |
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cheapest available tariff? First up, npower, this tariff would have left | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
us �51-62 worse off, even taking the vouchers into account. It was a | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
similar story with Scottish Power. They'll make a �15 donation to | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
charity, but opting for that tariff over the firstutility, would have | :05:47. | :05:55. | |
left us �55.55 worse off, even with the charity donation. You would be | :05:55. | :06:05. | |
worse off. �55.55 per year. What do you think? That's quite a lot. | :06:05. | :06:12. | |
Quite a lot. Yeah. I would probably go for the cheapest and give up the | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
�15 myself. The others tried to encourage to sign up with the | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
promise of free energy monitors, but they are only worth �30, so the | :06:19. | :06:29. | |
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British Gas deal would have left us �41 poorer. You would be worse off | :06:30. | :06:38. | |
taking into account the energy monitors. We would have been a | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
massive �186.56 worse or with Southern Electric, but there is one | :06:41. | :06:49. | |
deal that did work out to be better. E.On's tariff comes with Tesco | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
vouchers and worked out to be �7.01 better value. Great, as long as you | :06:54. | :07:02. | |
like shopping in Tesco. While some tariffs with added extras might | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
seem tempting, it's always worth checking how much the rewards are | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
worth, because the chances are you'll get a better deal without | :07:08. | :07:15. | |
them. Worth doing the maths for. Rani Price is in the mail room. | :07:15. | :07:22. | |
What do the companies have to say? Five energy suppliers, four | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
responses. Npower haven't provided us with one. British Gas say they | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
strive to offer the best deals and they can assist customers with | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
cutting bills and energy monitors can save the average household �125 | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
a year. E.On say they believe in complete clarity and are doing all | :07:38. | :07:45. | |
they can to make choosing the best tariff, simple fair and transparent. | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
Southern Electric they are dramatically simplifying tariffs | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
and offer three. Anyone choosing an optional extra won't pay further | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
costs. Customers will get support and advice to cut their energy use. | :07:59. | :08:05. | |
Finally, Scottish Power, they say unlike the firstutility product, | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
theirs comes with a small discount for standard prices. They say it's | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
good value, comes with no termination fee and has the | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
donation to a good cause. All the companies say that the price rises | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
are down to the extra costs associated with fuel efficiency and | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
transporting and buying energy. Meanwhile, if you would like to | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
comment on any of that, or any of today's other stories, he's a | :08:28. | :08:38. | |
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reminder of how to do so. Send an e-mail: Or text us: start your | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
message with the letters WD. If you want to join the discussion on | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
Twitter, the address and hash tag is on the screen. Have you booked | :08:48. | :08:55. | |
next summer's holiday yet? If so, you're probably recognising this | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
sign. At ol stands for Air Travel Organiers' Licensing. By law -- | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
ATOL stands for Air Travel Organiers' Licensing by law, all | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
companies must be bound by this, so you are not left out of pocket. It | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
means that the Civil Aviation Authority has inspected the company | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
to make sure its business is sound, but how much operators are flouting | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
the law and putting tourists at risk by operating outside the | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
scheme? Let's join Shefali Oza, who is following Trading Standards | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
officers in the West Midlands for us this week. Welcome to Birmingham. | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
Home to an international airport that handles around nine million | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
passengers every year. The overwhelming majority of | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
holidaymakers who depart from here will enjoy the peace of mind you | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
get when booking with an ATOL- registered company, but as we've | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
discovered, there are rogue operators in this part of the | :09:46. | :09:53. | |
country who show a disregard for the travelling public. The ATOL | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
scheme was set up in the 70s when foreign, package holidays were | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
relatively new. Some tour companies collapsed, leaving customers, when | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
had paid their money, little or no comeback, prompting the Government | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
of the day to give holidaymakers greater protection. The scheme's | :10:08. | :10:16. | |
been a big success. But companies who don't add deer can expect to be | :10:16. | :10:26. | |
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pun -- adeer, can expect to be punished. You may not display ATOL | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
logos when you do not hold a licence. That is a criminal offence. | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
We can bring prosecutions against firms who do do that. Recently, the | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
officers who help police the scheme in Birmingham have been busy. The | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
city is among the most ledgically diverse in the UK and each year | :10:49. | :10:59. | |
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thousands of local Muslims take part in the pilgrimage to Mecca. | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
Lots of companies have recently strung up. The hard package, what | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
they should have, is where they're staying, flight details, where | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
their flying from. The price, and what tends to happen, they are | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
promised all these verbally and when they get there it's often that | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
they are actually squatting other people in one room and they don't | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
get the hotel they were promised. Sometimes when they are promised | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
direct flights that's not often the case. Some of the companies | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
response are not ATOL registered when they should be. Today, in the | :11:32. | :11:42. | |
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run-up to the hath, trading standard officer Mohammed is on an | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
intelligence-gathering exercise. will go into some supermarkets and | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
other places where they've been advertising and pick up a leaflet | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
and see what they're claiming. keeping an eye out for any | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
suspicious-looking billboard ads, like this one, which doesn't | :11:59. | :12:08. | |
display the ATOL sign. Next, he goes in search of leaflet at the | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
local mosque. He finds one, but it has no logo. He calls the number | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
posing as a potential customer. just saw your advert in the local | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
mosque. And food and direct flight and everything included? OK. Are | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
you ATOL protected so if there's a problem I'm not going to get any | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
hassle or nothing? Are you ATOL protected? It's not a problem then? | :12:35. | :12:41. | |
OK, then, brother, thank you very much. I asked him on two occasions | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
if he's ATOL protected, but erefused to answer that question. | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
With that company added to his list, he moves on to supermarkets and | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
other stores where hath tour companies advertise. By the end of | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
the trip he's picked up ten leaflets. Now, it's back to the | :12:57. | :13:07. | |
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office to make more inquiries about them all. -- first of all, this | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
company that displays the ATOL logo wrongly, which he soon establishes. | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
This company does not hold a licence, so therefore the leaflet | :13:17. | :13:25. | |
breaches the trademark, but breaches other protections. | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
Although test possible for a company to act on behalf of another | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
company who is ATOL registered and still display the logo, it needs to | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
be made clear who that ATOL licenced operator is, otherwise | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
it's misleading. Next, a company whose leaflets have no logos at all. | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
Is the owner operating legally? I've just asked mim straight out | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
are you ATOL registered? -- him straight out, are you ATOL | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
registered. First he didn't answered, then he said, "Yeah, we | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
are all ATOL registered. You can't go to Mecca without being ATOL | :14:02. | :14:12. | |
ledge terd." Time for a quick check -- reg terd." Time for a quick | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
check: There's nothing on the database, contrary to what he just | :14:15. | :14:23. | |
told me over the phone. Tariq and his team can now planning | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
enforcement action. We have a few offences today which we'll have to | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
put together and start visiting the traders in the next few days. | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
find out what happens when he goes to visit them later, but if you | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
want to know what happens if you do book with a non-ATOL-registered | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
company, this is the so-called four-star trip that cost one family | :14:46. | :14:56. | |
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Bucks macro, Tesco, Cow & Gate, all keen to sign you up to their | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
mailing lists and membership schemes. The more they know about | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
your shopping habits and lifestyle, the more they can target you with | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
offers you are likely to buy. But what if you want to leave their | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
schemes? It can be difficult, and for one group of customers, | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
extremely distressing. Junk mail, and wanted texts and | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
spam e-mail. They are the marketing message has none of us want to | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
receive. Then there are those we do want to hear about. A half-price | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
special offers, latest product releases and up-to-date information | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
on what is hard and what is not. To get these come many of us willingly | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
subscribed to company mailing lists. I signed up after my 12 week it | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
scanned to Boots and other companies, hoping to take advantage | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
of their two-for-one offers, and to learn about breast feeding and get | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
money off vouchers for the future. I also wanted about us and advice | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
on everything, down to mattresses, bottles and sterilises and what | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
formula to feed him. I was just after freebies, really! Direct | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
mailings from trusted companies such as Boots and Tesco are | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
extremely helpful for new mums. But for these women they became | :16:20. | :16:29. | |
incredibly Anbar come and upsetting. I went into labour at 23 weeks and | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
four days prematurely. I had an infection. The infection was all | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
within Siena as well. A mother would do anything to save her child | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
but there was nothing I could do. My son was diagnosed at birth with | :16:43. | :16:51. | |
a very rare and severe heart defect. Sadly, he only lived for 29 days. | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
When Lisa and Tanya lost their babies they were members of the | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
Boots parenting club, both receiving monthly e-mails and | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
leaflets from the company. I was inundated with various e-mails, | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
from weekly updates of how big she would have been was I still | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
pregnant, they just carried on and on. I just wanted them to stop. | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
This should have been straightforward because according | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
to the e-mails, if you wish to unsubscribe from the parenting Club | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
newsletter, you just need to click on a link within it. Doing so takes | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
you to a web page with ask you to confirm the decision. Both Laysan | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
and Tanya are adamant they did this, get the message has kept coming. | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
husband called the call centres between October and 5th May times | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
in total, to ask them to unsubscribe and stop sending me | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
these updates. Each time they said they would stop them but they kept | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
on coming. I tried several times, about eight times, to unsubscribe | :17:48. | :17:53. | |
through them -- to them through the e-mail system. I also sent an e- | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
mail to the customer-service department asking if I could be | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
removed from their mailing list. Still be post and e-mails kept | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
coming. It took six months but the e-mails to Tanya finally stopped. A | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
relief... But only a temporary one. In May this year I suddenly | :18:11. | :18:18. | |
received an e-mail from Boots again saying, your baby is 17 months old. | :18:18. | :18:26. | |
The company had obviously kept my details. Lisa finally lost | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
confidence in their ability to handle her complaint properly and | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
has since gone to the head of the company. I found the Co emo and I | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
e-mailed personally, appealing to him as a human being to help stop | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
this. I asked him to acknowledge my e-mail. I've never heard anything | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
from him since. She also wrote to the chief executive. But while the | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
mailings from that company have now stopped, she still receives | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
leaflets from Tesco. With Tesco, I tried to unsubscribe about five | :18:56. | :19:04. | |
times. My mother phoned the customer-service line after giving | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
them... That's still didn't help, so she went into the local store | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
and spoke to the manager. But two years later, I'm now getting tabla | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
magazines. For Samantha, whose baby was stillborn, it is Cow & Gate who | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
won't leave her alone. She tried to unsubscribe from the mailing list | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
in September 2011. A year on, the e-mails keep coming. Every Mumbai | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
receive an e-mail through from Cow & Gate. I've tried to unsubscribe | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
many times. I've done it through the e-mail link. When that hasn't | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
work, I've tried going on to their main website and e-mailing them | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
through their contact us button. It hasn't worked. Companies like these | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
spent millions on direct marketing every year, in a bid to reach | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
potential customers and get them on to their mailing lists. But | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
shouldn't they be putting at least some of that effort into making | :19:56. | :20:02. | |
sure - - into making sure their systems work? Individuals have a | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
right to object to receiving marketing communications. They have | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
a right to object to processing where that would cause them | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
unwarranted damage and distress. They also can be protected against | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
unfair processing. The Information Commission office is there to help | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
where it has been contravened. If people have asked an organisation | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
to stop sending these communications and they haven't | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
done it, contact the information Commission office. Life as a | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
bereaved mother is so hard on a day-to-day basis anyway, let alone | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
when you are getting the constant reminders through the post and e- | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
mails. We don't need that constant reminder. We know, we don't need a | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
written in black and white. Heartbreaking. One thing to lose | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
the baby but to be reminded of it week after week by these marketing | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
e-mails. They just couldn't get them to stop. It is not something | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
you'd imagine when you sign up to these e-mails, but they were so | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
brave to share their stories. hope it does stop now. What have | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
the company said? All three have expressed their deepest apologies | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
and say they are truly sorry to those families. Cow & Gate say | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
there are systems in place for people who want to unsubscribe. | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
They clearly didn't work for Samantha Kirby and they are | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
investigating why. They are looking at all additional measures they | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
should take. Tesco say they've made should Tanya perjure -- Tanya | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
Pledger won't receive any more e- mails and have taken steps to | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
prevent this happening again to any of their customers. Tanya was also | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
a customer of Boots, which has blamed the system upgrade resulting | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
in a technical error which led to some unsubscribe customers | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
receiving unwanted e-mails. They are confident his has been | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
rectified but are continuing to review this process. If you have | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
been affected by this issue and would like details of organisations | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
which offer advice and support, called the BBC Action Line to hear | :21:54. | :22:02. | |
a recorded information. The number is on screen. Lines are open 24 | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
hours and are free from a land like Auster mobile operators will charge. | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
We are heading back to Birmingham where the consumer cops are | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
clamping down on travel companies operating without proper licences. | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
It's a big problem in the Midlands, especially among those companies | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
serving the regions large Muslim population. | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
In recent days, the officer has been gathering intelligence on | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
businesses he suspects false to claim to be part of the UK tour | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
operator's ATOL scheme. There's nothing on the Civil Aviation | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
database to say that they are ATOL registered, contrary to what he | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
just told me on the phone. The ATOL scheme ensures protection for | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
travellers and companies providing flight based holidays overseas must | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
by law be part of it. Although it only protects you have a company | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
goes bust or if you are stranded abroad, it should give you the | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
peace of mind that they are doing things by the book. So booking but | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
then none ATOL protect said to operator is fraught with problems. | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
In 2009, Mohammed bought a trip to Saudi Arabia where he and his | :23:10. | :23:17. | |
family were taking part in an Islamic pilgrimage. The company had | :23:17. | :23:23. | |
Kellett -- had claimed to be at -- ATOL registered. We were assured we | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
would have a good experience, forsake journey and would stay | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
comfortable. The reality could not have been more different. Despite | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
paying �10,000, the trip was a disaster. A disaster his daughter | :23:37. | :23:43. | |
has captured on camera. The area we are staying in has got a sanitation | :23:43. | :23:53. | |
:23:53. | :23:53. | ||
problem. It is actually disgusting. There is sewage. The smell of | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
sewage. It is worlds apart from the area we were meant to be staying at. | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
Rubbish everywhere, dirt, stray cats, anything you can think of is | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
here. The company had made a series of false promises to the family. | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
The hotel wasn't four-star and there weren't separate rooms for | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
parents and children. This is the room we are staying in for four | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
people. It is me, my sister, my mum and dad that are staying in the | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
same room. It isn't ideal. It is a small room, very, very basic. | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
There's no natural light. You can see where the curtains are, that's | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
the window but it doesn't open so there's no natural light. There is | :24:44. | :24:52. | |
a fridge in here but every time you open the fridge there is a | :24:52. | :24:59. | |
cockroach which runs out of the fridge. The worst is the bathroom. | :24:59. | :25:07. | |
Bathroom nightmare! The shower is basically on top of the toilet, it | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
is disgusting. There is one tiny window which doesn't open. It is | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
just really awful, awful conditions to living. The family asked the | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
company to move them, even offering to pay extra. But with the | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
pilgrimage on, everywhere else was booked so they have to stay here | :25:25. | :25:32. | |
for almost three weeks. We've just had a delivery of dinner. This is | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
how it is delivered every day in carrier bags. Obviously there is a | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
hygiene problem again. We have the same food every single day, we | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
haven't got a choice. The travel agent promised that the food would | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
be all-inclusive. But when we got here the food was not included. The | :25:51. | :25:57. | |
complaint and then now we get a delivery of basically street food. | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
There is oar macro of us in this tiny room and we have to eat on the | :26:01. | :26:10. | |
floor. On arriving home, the family showed their evidence to trading | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
standards who agreed to investigate. 21 months later, the boss of the | :26:14. | :26:21. | |
travel agency appeared in court charged with fraud, along with a | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
number of other offences including unauthorised use of the ATOL logo. | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
In December 2011, he was jailed for 15 months. Birmingham Trading | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
Standards is at the forefront of the enforcement. We will continue | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
doing what we do best, which is protect the consumers of Birmingham | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
and prosecute where appropriate. is now well weeks since Tariq | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
started collecting intelligence on suspect travel agencies. Today, he | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
and his team are ready to confront the traders. We've had a few | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
complaints about certain individuals. We will make sure they | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
are complying with consumer protection and regulations, and the | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
package travel rates as well. Should you come across any | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
documentation or evidence that breaches this legislation, sees | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
them, back them, tag them and we'll be discussing the matter further | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
with the operator concerned. first visit is to a company that's | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
been circulating advertising leaflets saying they are ATOL | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
registered, even though the company isn't. And from Birmingham trading | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
standards. We've come here to do a routine inspection. You are | :27:30. | :27:38. | |
claiming to be ATOL. We've got statements, you are not licensed. | :27:38. | :27:45. | |
What is your comment on that? What relationship are you with the | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
owner? You are his son. We will issue a notice. We are going to | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
carry out an inspection. Anything that is infringing, we are going to | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
take it and then we'll have a chat with your dad when he gets back. | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
You are giving out leaflets and are saying that you are ATOL registered. | :28:02. | :28:08. | |
That is fraud. We will discuss it with your dad. Carrick speaks to | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
the owner of the business on the phone. He claims the business is | :28:12. | :28:15. | |
ATOL registered but through a different company. As that is not | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
what is written on the leaflet, further enquiries are needed. | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
are going to have a look around, we've got the powers to do that. If | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
you abstract as it is an offence to obstruct an officer. We will take | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
your computer. We can do that. We will take it and get it examined. | :28:34. | :28:44. | |
:28:44. | :28:46. | ||
We will get it back to you. Put that back. Put it back. It doesn't | :28:46. | :28:51. | |
matter, it was in the computer. Put it back. Thank you very much. | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
officers leave. Computer and now memory stick in hand. They also | :28:56. | :29:00. | |
plan to question the owner of the business when he returns. | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
Find out what happens later on. How many of you have had a text or | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
phone call recently offering to get to compensation from the banks or | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
missold payment protection insurance? If you have, you are not | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
alone. A new report from the Citizen's Advice Bureau says nine | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
out of 10 of us are sick of being pestered by claims management | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
companies. What is more, if you are tempted to use such companies, | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
watch out because you can end up far worse off than if you'd handle | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
the claim yourself. Look at what happened to one viewer, Linda | :29:31. | :29:41. | |
:29:41. | :29:46. | ||
The company cold called me and they persuaded me had -- I had enough | :29:46. | :29:53. | |
money back. I was charged �750 and I had one successful claim and it | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
was �795. After paying the company the High Commission fees and VAT I | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
was left with just over �500 and I still have two outstanding claims | :30:02. | :30:07. | |
which I'm waiting to hear from and they are ignoring my calls. I'm | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
over �200 out of pocket. It's been two years and they told me it would | :30:11. | :30:17. | |
take six months maximum to get any many back. I have paid more money | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
to the claims company than what I have received back from the one PPI | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
claim I did have. Basically, I should never have trusted them in | :30:23. | :30:33. | |
the beginning. What they did was unfair. I'm joined by Gillian guy, | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
Chief Executive of the Citizens Advice Bureau. She is �200 out of | :30:36. | :30:42. | |
pocket and she was persuaded to do this? It's not untypical. We have | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
had 5,000 calls to our helpline since April about claims management | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
companies. The way that people get persuaded is that it comes to them | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
direct on their mobile phone or on their land line at home and tells | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
them they have a claim without investigating whether they do. It's | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
quite tempting to go for it. Then they have to pay upfront fees. They | :31:02. | :31:10. | |
may have to pay a Fiat the end and never get compensation, so it's not | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
-- Fiat the end and never get compensation, so it's not unusual. | :31:13. | :31:18. | |
Nine out of ten people? Massive numbers. It won't be unfamiliar to | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
people, because I haven't met anyone who hasn't been conducted. I | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
get daily complaints asking what we're doing about it. When you | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
think the banks have set aside �10 billion to deal with this, the | :31:30. | :31:35. | |
companies are making huge amounts of money? Potentially, a quarter of | :31:35. | :31:40. | |
that. They often charge 25% upfront. They sometimes take money from the | :31:40. | :31:44. | |
compensation too. How are they allowed to get away with it? Thraif | :31:44. | :31:51. | |
been allowed because originally, observe -- They've been allowed to | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
get away with it, because originally the banks weren't quick | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
enough. There was a gap in the market to come into this and then | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
are now burdening the banks with about 50% of bogus claims, so the | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
banks have an excuse for not having dealt with them. If you think you | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
really have a genuine claim. You don't have to go through the | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
companies. The most important thing is that it's free to make a claim. | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
The compensation should be all yours and not saird. The easy way | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
to do that is to -- shared. The easy way to do that is to write to | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
your bank. We have template letters on the website. You send it off and | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
you will be told whether you have a claim and you get to keep the | :32:33. | :32:39. | |
compensation. Thank you very much. Over now to Rani Price. Lots of you | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
have been emailing in, but I should point out that the Claims Standards | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
Council have told us they recognise there are options to make PPI | :32:46. | :32:51. | |
claims for free. They say if people choose a management company they | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
can make sure it's signed up to an industry Code of Conduct and they | :32:56. | :33:01. | |
along with professionals say they support a call for a ban on upfront | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
fees and while non-compliant companies should be penalised, | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
there are a lot that operate within the rules. They say they are | :33:08. | :33:11. | |
committed to increasing professionalism and level of | :33:11. | :33:16. | |
services by regulated claims management companies. Also, a big | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
reaction to our story about the bereaved mothers and those | :33:20. | :33:30. | |
:33:30. | :33:31. | ||
marketing e-mails. Now, we have some e-mails here. People are | :33:31. | :33:36. | |
unable to unsubscribe to emailing lists. Lorna says she is still | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
getting company e-mails after losing her baby son eight months | :33:40. | :33:44. | |
ago. Despite trying to unsubscribe many times, that is. Helen says | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
that this happens to her seven months after losing her baby son. | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
It's appalling, she says, a really sensitive topic. Thank you for | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
getting in touch. Back now to Birmingham, where rogue travel | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
agents have been operating without proper licences. Earlier, we saw a | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
raid on the offices of one company, who had falsely claimed to be part | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
of the travel industry's ATOL scheme and as Shefali Oza other | :34:09. | :34:15. | |
companies in the city are also in for some surprise visits. There are | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
around 140,000 Muslims living in Birmingham. Their religion requires | :34:19. | :34:27. | |
them to take part in the annual pilgrimage to Mecca, the Hajj. | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
Companies offering packages regularly hand out leaflets outside | :34:32. | :34:39. | |
the moss -- mosques. Leaflets that do not carry the ATOL logo are of | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
special interests to Trading Standards teams. I need to speak to | :34:43. | :34:49. | |
you about your leaflets. It's not going to take very long. Today, | :34:49. | :34:52. | |
officer Hannah Davies is visiting a man whose company literature | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
doesn't display the logo. According to his company his company is | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
merging with another that is apparently ATOL registered. If you | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
don't understand them, then phone me up and I'll go through them with | :35:02. | :35:08. | |
you. What you have to understand is if you put a leaflet like this out | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
and it doesn't say that you are acting for an agent with somebody | :35:13. | :35:23. | |
:35:23. | :35:25. | ||
with an ATOL. Pick them up. How many did you have printed? I go | :35:25. | :35:32. | |
myself to pick up. Are they at the mosque? All right. OK. Thank you. | :35:32. | :35:38. | |
Goodbye. He's now said he'll go to the mosque and pick up all the | :35:38. | :35:44. | |
leaflets and he'll not do it again. Well, we'll see what happens, | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
because I'll check in the mosques or my colleague will do and isle | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
confirm in writing and probably look to take this further. The team | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
later check the mosques and the leaflets had been removed. During | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
earlier intelligence gathering, Hannah's colleague spotted this | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
banner from another company, offering Hajj tour packages. This | :36:05. | :36:12. | |
too didn't display the ATOL logo. Posing as a customer, he has since | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
phoned the company and been assured by the owner he's registered with | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
the scheme, but he isn't. This means he's breaking the law by | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
taking any money from potential customers. He's expecting me to | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
meet up with him in the next hour and bring a deposit of �5,000. He's | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
not supposed to handle any money or if she is, that should go straight | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
to an ATOL-bonded licencee. I don't believe for one minute he's going | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
to hand that money over to anyone else. The trader thinks he's going | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
to get �5,000, but instead of collecting money, he's going to | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
face some serious questions. He's caging about where to meet and he's | :36:52. | :37:01. | |
not given me a door number. Hello, there. I'm Mr Tariq. I'm from | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
Trading Standards. We just need to talk about your sign. You told me | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
you are ATOL registered, right and I've checked up and you're not. | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
Let's take for argument's sake you're not, who do you do your ATOL | :37:15. | :37:25. | |
:37:25. | :37:30. | ||
booking with? Why is it not on the poster then? Why? If you're taking | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
money? You were about to take �5,000 from me. One second. You | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
were about to take �5,000 off me. Right, you know the ATOL | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
requirements, the CAA requirements. What would you have done with the | :37:43. | :37:50. | |
money? What receipt would you have given me? No you don't. You've got | :37:50. | :38:00. | |
your own company. That's my different one, but I work for them. | :38:00. | :38:10. | |
:38:10. | :38:12. | ||
Excuse me. As you can see, that's what you get for your �3,500. | :38:12. | :38:19. | |
There's nothing on the actual manner to say that it's ATOL | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
registered or there is any other company involved. I was about to | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
hand him �5,000. What receipt would I get? I got the door slammed in my | :38:27. | :38:34. | |
face. We'll be taking the matter up further and we'll call him for a | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
PACE interview. Should he fail to come in, I'll report him for legal | :38:38. | :38:47. | |
consideration. Since we filmed that, tar reek here has been continuing | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
his investigation -- Tariq here has been continuing the investigations. | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
How do things stand? The tour operators, we have been gathering | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
evidence, so what we are doing now is waiting for the man to return | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
back from Hajj and call him in for a PACE interview and put the | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
allegations to him and the evidence. Depending on what they say, further | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
action may or may not be taken. This year's season has finished and | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
people are returning. Have things gone well? Not really. There's room | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
for improvement. We received a lot of complaints from the public where | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
they've been allegedly ripped off and promised five-star hotels or | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
four-star hotels and direct flights, and none of that happened. What we | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
tend to do is get the complaints from the members of the public and | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
put the allegations to the tour operators and if there's any | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
breaches of the package regulations or fraud we'll pursue further. | :39:40. | :39:46. | |
Thank you very much for talking to us. Shefali Oza will be back | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
tomorrow. Right now, if you want to make sure you are protected on an | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
upcoming holiday, or you've returned from one where things | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
weren't quite as promised, you need to know your stuff, like James | :40:01. | :40:10. | |
:40:11. | :40:13. | ||
Daley. The good news is that from 1st October knowing whether or not | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
you're protected is much easier. By law, every ATOL-protected provider | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
needs to issue you with one of these when you book a holiday. It's | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
a certificate of protection. The other advantage of a certificate is | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
that it contains a unique reference number, so if you need to claim you | :40:31. | :40:39. | |
bring that up. It means if the company goes bust before you leave | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
you'll get your money back if it's protected. But if your holiday | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
company goes bust while you're away, ATOL won't leave you stranded, but | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
get you home as no extra cost. What if you haven't booked a package | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
holiday? Fear not, ATOL may also cover you if you booked flight and | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
accommodation separately and car hire from the same provider. ATOL | :41:01. | :41:08. | |
calls this is the flight plus. Under this, if part of the holiday | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
goes bust, then the seller must replace that holiday or provide a | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
refund. Careful though, airlines are exempt from this, so if you | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
book a hotel through an airline website you wouldn't be covered. | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
What happens if you book the flight and accommodation through separate | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
companies? Well, in that situation ATOL won't protect you. However, | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
your travel insurance might. It's important to check you've got a | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
policy that covers what the industry calls supplier failure. | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
Check the small print. You might also want to book your holiday on a | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
credit card to give you extra protection. What if your holiday | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
isn't quite as you expected? You know, building work, facilities | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
promised that didn't exist? Under the regulations, your holiday needs | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
to be provided as described, whether that's regarding location, | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
cleanliness or the facilities. If you're not happy, report problems | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
as soon as they happen and ask to fill in a written complaints form | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
and take photographs of anything you're unhappy with. You should | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
make a complaint to whichever company gave you your protection, | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
whether it's the tour operator or travel agent, but remember you have | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
a duty to give them a chance to put things right. One last thing, if | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
you are taking out insurance, whether or not you've booked a | :42:26. | :42:34. | |
holiday with an ATOL-protected provider, do so and have happy | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
holidays. To find out more about checking the small print for | :42:38. | :42:45. | |
yourself, check out the links on our website. We've had some big | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
talking points today. To find out what you're responding to here Rani | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
Price. We are getting loads of e- mails about that story on merge | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
companies. Offering perks and incentives to new customers there. | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
But a lot of you are unhappy they offer nothing to existing, loyal | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
customers and more rebeefed mums have been in touch. Quoch thank you | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
for highlighting this. These companies -- "Thank you for | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
highlighting this. The companies don't understand the pain they | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
cause." Thank you. Private parking companies, could drivers still get | :43:18. | :43:23. |