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Hello and welcome to Watchdog Daily. We are with you live for the next | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
45 minutes. This morning, buying gift vouchers for Christmas? We but | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
some of the most popular to the test of find out what they already | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
worth. See him, steaks, big penalties. How | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
some airlines are penalising customers for the smallest booking | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
errors. And why Boots can no longer say | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
these pills help cut the carbohydrates. | :00:52. | :01:02. | |
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Also today... You owe me 700 -- �3,700! | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
The Consumer Cops to track down those accused dealing in debt | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
collection and violence. First, gift vouchers, one of the | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
most popular Christmas presents and a perfect option when you cannot | :01:17. | :01:23. | |
think what to buy. Or are they? Judging by your complaints and Anna | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
instigation by mystery shoppers from us, it seems some vouchers | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
could be a better present for the companies than for your family and | :01:31. | :01:41. | |
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friends. We will spend an estimated �4.4 | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
billion on gift vouchers this year, so a family and friends can | :01:48. | :01:56. | |
exchange them for clothes, of books, music. But 6% of the money, that is | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
�264 million, will go on spend. We lose them and forget to exchange | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
them before they expire. And then a rather vouchers so riddled with | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
restrictions they are hardly worth using. Some can even end up costing | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
us more. When I retired from work last year my colleagues gave me | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
about us to spend. �50 worth of Jet2 vouchers. They knew I would | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
spend a year travelling and they thought that would come in useful | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
in some of my plans. When I came in May this year to book for flights | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
online and I looked at the small print, it said you had to phone | :02:31. | :02:38. | |
their customer service desk on a number. Yes, Jet2 would not let | :02:38. | :02:45. | |
Rosie redeem the voucher online. She had to call them. The flight | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
prices had approach in our increased. The bottom line, without | :02:49. | :02:57. | |
a voucher, she could have booked through the website for... �219.96. | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
Whatever was I had �50 worth of vouchers I would have to spent -- | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
and I would have to spend �180 in order to get �50, so when net loss | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
to me of �130 for having to book through the help desk. I know my | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
friend but a lot of effort into having a collection for me and | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
thought into what would be good but unfortunately I have not been able | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
to use them so I feel they have been let down. You would expect you | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
could redeem them online given they are an online company. So if one | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
company can put expensive restrictions on, what about the | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
others? Time to find out. Over two days, our mystery shopper has | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
studied the terms and conditions on several of the most popular gift | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
vouchers and cards. Unlike cash, they can have a very limited life | :03:45. | :03:51. | |
span. In the industry, the expiry date is in fact part of the way the | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
business works and if they have an expiry date innings after a certain | :03:55. | :04:02. | |
length of time, that money can go into their account. -- it means. | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
Otherwise they have to keep it in case you turn up 12 years later. | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
Some companies are prepared -- prepared to do this. Like John | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
Lewis and BhS. But others have time limit. The most popular period is | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
24 months but look carefully. one from Dorothy Perkins is another | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
good example because this expires 24 months from the date of purchase. | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
That is used for mind it is not 24 months after you open your | :04:29. | :04:39. | |
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Christmas present. - -- that is used for because. The cards you get | :04:43. | :04:52. | |
now usually do have an expiry date. Some companies have uneven it shot | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
-- even short expiry time. With Selfridges, it is only 12 months. | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
Can I ask why it has this time limit? I think it is the shop | :05:01. | :05:07. | |
policy. Selfridges also restrict your choice of how to spend the | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
money. The store stocks thousands of products but if you want to use | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
your card to buy these they will not let you. And why are they these | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
restrictions? I don't know, it doesn't even make sense, to be | :05:20. | :05:30. | |
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We also found restrictions on the House of Fraser gift voucher. You | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
are unable to use this to buy a large kitchen appliances or | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
Montgomerie made-to-measure curtains, accessories and fabrics. | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
The gift card sort of says, you know you like computer games or | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
clothing or a particular retailer, so they give you the gift card. It | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
is better for the giver but not necessarily for the receiver, | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
because what the recipient wants his flexibility and nothing is as | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
flexible as cash. But in some cases, a gift card is not such a good deal | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
for the giver either. Take the one from Ticketmaster. If you are | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
buying one to give to somebody else, you could be charged �2.50 on top | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
of the value of the card. Ryanair also slapped on an additional | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
purchase fee of �6. And be careful if you are buying tolled vouchers | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
because they will charge that �6 for every badger. -- buying | :06:35. | :06:45. | |
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So given all of those findings, what should you give to the person | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
who is so difficult to buy for? Introducing the limit this gift | :06:59. | :07:07. | |
solution... Expiry? Never! Project choice -- product choice? None. It | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
is the one universally accepted gift voucher. No wonder they say | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
cash is king! A lot of responses to that report | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
but the most succinct a ball is from Michael O'Leary's Ryanair, | :07:19. | :07:29. | |
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So now you know. Festival, Jet2 said they are sorry | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
Rosie Healey had problems making her booking. -- first of all. They | :07:42. | :07:49. | |
said their terms and conditions make sure everything is exactly the | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
same on the website. Ticketmaster told us that �2.50 fee is not | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
specific to the gift card. It is a standard fee online and they can | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
see the details before they make the payment. It also runs promotion | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
where delivery is free. And finally, Selfridges. They say they always on | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
a gift cards even after their expiry. It no longer sells paper | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
vouchers but any old ones still in circulation will also still be | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
honoured in store. Moving on to the restrictions and what you can buy | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
with the card. Selfridges has removed them except for the Wedding | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
Shop, where customers can renew redeem them in store. The company | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
has updated the website and is briefing all staff on the gift card | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
policy. If you would like to comment on that or any of today's | :08:35. | :08:43. | |
stories, here's a reminder. This is that email address or you can send | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
us a text. If you want to join the discussion on Twitter, this is the | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
address and hash track. Since the credit crunch struck four | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
years ago, getting a loan from a bank has become hard if not | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
impossible for many. It has helped fuel an explosion in pay-day | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
lending - short-term loans offered at huge rates of interest. Even | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
worse, some have turned to unlicensed lenders who demand | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
extortionate repayments, often with threats and violence. Loan sharks | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
have become such a big problem that there are now specially-trained | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
Consumer Cops who track down the illegal lenders and, where possible, | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
prosecute. A Louise Hulland is in Liverpool. | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
Yes, it may be hard to believe but the number of UK households using | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
loan sharks is believed to be upwards of 300,000 was up here on | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
Merseyside they have their fair share of lenders and a little later | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
I will show you what happened when the Illegal Money Lending Team | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
Tocher Didier suspect in a dawn raid. But first we have been | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
finding out how ruthless loan sharks can be. -- tracked down a | :09:49. | :09:57. | |
suspect. You have nine saved messages. First | :09:57. | :10:07. | |
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save message... I am just about Menacing and intimidating. The | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
voice of a loan shark demanding payment for one of his victims. And | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
an operating outside the law, charging eye-watering levels of | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
interest. Alone shock technically it is somebody who does not have a | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
credit -- consumer credit licence but actually they are a criminal | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
who fundamentally goes out to which people off and make their lives a | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
misery. Loan sharks are in it purely for the money. They are not | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
there to provide any community service or lend money responsibly. | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
They are not there to help anybody out. It is purely greed and | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
criminal activity linked to greed. Jackie Kennedy oversees the work of | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
the National Illegal Money Lending Team. Over the last eight years she | :10:56. | :11:04. | |
has witnessed the tactics of the shocks up close. -- the loan sharks. | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
They will regularly leave threatening voice mails. It is | :11:08. | :11:18. | |
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typical - the bad language, the Complete power relationship. | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
Completely trying to frighten the person who has picked up a | :11:25. | :11:33. | |
voicemail. That is, I'm afraid, typical of how many of them operate. | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
We have had kidnapped on the streets, threats to kill, children | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
taken from school, animals kidnapped. We have had people raped | :11:42. | :11:50. | |
associated to loans. The impact is this -- disproportionate because it | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
is massive to a family and community. They must be stopped. | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
this is not easy. Officers rely on victims but in their fears aside | :11:59. | :12:05. | |
and coming forward with information. Victims like Mike. It started when | :12:05. | :12:12. | |
I had just turned 17. I bought a car. And he was known to everybody | :12:12. | :12:20. | |
in the area. A friend of the family as well. We went to school with him. | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
So obviously been a friend, the best people to go to, you would | :12:27. | :12:34. | |
think. I bought a car for �250 and started paying �8 a week. After a | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
couple of weeks, the payments increased and he wanted more. And | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
then it went from 30 to 50 to 70. And then obviously because I was | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
using money to pay him instead of buying through Gas and Electric, | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
paying the rent, I had to borrow more money off him to cover them | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
and he put interest on top. I couldn't pay you one week and he | :13:01. | :13:07. | |
would double what I owed. His spiralled out of control. -- pay | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
him one week. So many people are embarrassed they have got into debt | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
with a loan shark and so many people are intimidated and | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
frightened as well. Mike is not a typical. They don't come to the | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
team until they're absolutely at the end of their tether. He was | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
going to hit me, start taking stuff out of the house, which she did do. | :13:29. | :13:38. | |
The PlayStations, he took the car, and one occasion where I was ill | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
and I was on the sofa... He just started laying into me in front of | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
the kids. He borrowed �250 and think he repaid Simon Danczuk | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
�90,000 after seven years. An astounding amount of money! -- I | :13:54. | :14:03. | |
think he repaid a total of �90,000. I was living on my arm up -- on | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
Mars bars just to repay him. Me and my wife, obviously because we lost | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
the house, we were arguing and splitting up. Then I had a heart | :14:13. | :14:20. | |
attack. Because of all the stress because I couldn't pay him. I lost | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
two jobs at the same time. Everything was a result of... The | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
loan shark. It just wasn't a life. And think Mike had just come to the | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
end of the road. He had considered committing suicide several times. | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
He knew his family, he couldn't give them holidays. And he suddenly | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
realised that, you know, this cannot go on. It came tour point | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
where you wasn't just threatening me, he was threatening my wife, | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
threatening my kids and that was the final straw. What was amazing | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
is just how brave and courageous he was. To finally, after all that | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
time, 17, 18 years, to think, enough is enough. And I have got | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
nothing but praise for Mike. And the other victims who have come | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
forward and given evidence against people who are basically bullies. | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
They operate through power and control and fundamentally they are | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
criminals. Once I had sat down with the team I have repaid �90,000 over | :15:22. | :15:30. | |
the period of 17 years. 17 years of sheer hell! Jackie and her | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
colleagues did track down the man who terrorised Mike and although he | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
was later prosecuted and jailed, there are plenty of others just | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
like him and they are still out there. I think it is a big problem | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
and a big problem nationally. I think we are really starting to | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
make an impact and we have prosecuted over 200 loan sharks. | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
That is fantastic. We have secured custodial sentences of about 134 | :15:57. | :16:03. | |
years. And �40 million of debt has been written off. So it is is | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
typical problem. But we are trying to raise awareness and get | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
communities more empowered to avoid them falling into the hands of loan | :16:10. | :16:18. | |
Later, we will see how the Illegal Money-lending Team helped bring | :16:18. | :16:23. | |
this loan shark to justice after terrorising one set of victims in | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
Manchester. A criminal so ruthless he took charge of their benefit | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
groups -- benefit books to make sure they met as a man's. Before | :16:30. | :16:38. | |
that, news about Boots. -- met his demands. The company has been | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
advertising this product, pharmaceutical car control. | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
According to the information, it can cut the amount of carbohydrate | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
so absorbed by up to 66% the company claimed their claim -- | :16:54. | :17:01. | |
claim was based on two studies. But it was discovered the results of | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
the second study was inappropriate and inconclusive. Boots argued that | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
the studies backed up their claims but the ASA disagreed, describing | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
the at as misleading and said it must not run again in its current | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
form. Boots have since told us that the ruling applied to the previous | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
version of the product and they had already taken the decision to | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
change the competition -- composition and their claims. | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
Winter holidays are approaching and the travel companies are attempting | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
us with flights to the sun. But if you are about to book, be careful. | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
Some airlines are hitting passengers with penalty charges for | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
making the simplest mistake on their booking forms. | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
Flying, stressful enough, but along with the queues, delays and | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
surcharges, passengers complain to us about a new problem. The sky- | :17:49. | :17:59. | |
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high cost of making a... Graham booked two flights from Paris to | :17:59. | :18:09. | |
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4th -- to Paris through Air France. They need to have the name the same | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
as what is printed on the passport, which is Andrew. I had an e-mail to | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
remind me that there was a mistake. One small error that led to a very | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
large bill. I phoned up a helpline and spoke to lastminute .com and | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
they insisted I had to pay �85 to change the letter. Frankly, it was | :18:29. | :18:36. | |
out rages. Graham had to pay �40.20 Air France and �45 to lastminute | :18:36. | :18:43. | |
.com. Why so much? The airline says it is really important that we put | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
pay penalties on two people who want to change the name. That is | :18:46. | :18:53. | |
because otherwise what would happen is that Simon Calder would book a | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
flight one year ahead for a Christmas trip, pay �1,000, and | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
then three days beforehand, sell it to someone else, change the name | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
and charge them �2,000, therefore doubling his money. But the vast | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
majority of cases are nothing to do with that, just simple mistakes. | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
Simple mistakes there can be expensive. Even more so when you | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
book your trip using a third party. It is bad enough if you make a | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
mistake on a name and you have gone direct to the airline, but if you | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
have gone through an agent, the complications can be much more | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
extreme. The airline and the agent are passing from one to another, | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
and neither of them want to do anything except charge you hundreds | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
of pounds for an innocent mistake. Caroline booked flights to South | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
Africa through the online charnel agent -- travel agent, Expedia, in | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
May, but then she realised her passport was in her maiden name. | :19:46. | :19:52. | |
Simple and straightforward to put right? No. I contacted Expedia and | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
they explained to me that I would need to discuss this with EMI, the | :19:56. | :20:03. | |
airline. -- BMI. I called the EMI and they said it was completely | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
fine and I could go to the check-in desk and they said that would be | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
fine. Except it wasn't. When the itinerary arrived, she found she | :20:11. | :20:17. | |
was not travelling with BMI but with a South African Airways. They | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
have an entirely different policy when it comes to correcting such a | :20:20. | :20:27. | |
simple mistakes. Six days before I flew, Expedia advised that the only | :20:27. | :20:33. | |
way to rectify my booking was to cancel the booking in my married | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
name and book again in my maiden name. Because South African Airways | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
insist that your ticket must match your passport, Caroline had no | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
option but to buy any flight. With one week to go before departure, | :20:45. | :20:53. | |
that flight now cost �3,100. If for any reason someone had indicated to | :20:53. | :20:58. | |
me that South African Airlines was the airline, I would have rung them | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
and clarified that issue as soon as possible for stop so far, we have | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
heard from passengers penalised because of mistakes they themselves | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
have made, but what if he believed the error is not down to you? | :21:11. | :21:18. | |
you have booked with Ryanair, like Melanie, then apparently, tough. | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
were travelling to see my grandparents and it was just a | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
week's holiday, which was also a relaxation for me because I was | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
recovering from brain surgery. We were printed out boarding passes | :21:31. | :21:41. | |
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and the name read a series of random letters. I call them one by | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
a realised -- when I realised and because it was out of hours, it was | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
�1 a minute. We spent the next two days explaining the problem and | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
making them understand that it was not to change a name, it was to | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
correct a mistake that they had made. They were saying that we have | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
made the mistake. The family were quoted an additional �110 each way | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
to change their boarding names. That was a total of �440. �212 more | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
than the original flight cost. Melanie and her mother could simply | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
not afford it and so had to cancel the trip. It was frustrating | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
because we only get to see our grandparents once a year. Now we | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
have to wait until next summer. Most of us would be reasonable | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
enough to say, well, made a mistake, silly me, I will have to pay �40 | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
for that. But I am detecting that many airlines are using this as a | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
revenue-raising opportunity, and absolutely squeezing the traveller. | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
It is simply not fair for a start I am sure the airlines would not say | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
that. What do they say? | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
Firstly, they say they make their policy clear to passengers and | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
recommend that people check their details carefully. Ryanair has told | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
us that the website does not load or -- preload or amend any details | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
entered by passengers during a booking. They say that having | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
looked at the family's case, they believe they applied the charge | :23:13. | :23:19. | |
correctly. As for the �85 for Graham's colleague's tickets, | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
lastminute .com say they clearly stipulate their fees. It is | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
entirely at the mercy of their line, therefore they cannot make changes | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
to a booking without authorisation. Meanwhile, Air France have told us | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
they only apply an administration fee to tickets when purchased by a | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
travel agent to cover the extra processing costs. Tickets purchased | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
direct to the airline have no fee. South African Airlines has | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
apologised to the problems -- for the problems that Caroline | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
experience but say that in this heightened time of security, they | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
cannot accept tickets in which a passenger's name does not match | :23:56. | :24:04. | |
that on that the passport. -- that on the passport. Finally, Expedia | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
say they abide by airline Postle -- airline policies that will | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
intervene on a passenger's behalf. They say the flight was a code- | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
share agreement between EMI and South African Airways. They say | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
that a Expedia did not profit from Earlier, we heard that a loan shark | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
using intimidation and violence extracted around �90,000 from a man | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
who started out owing just to London for �2. That illegal lender | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
was later prosecuted but while taking action against the Sharks is | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
Krishan, stopping people getting involved in the first place is even | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
more important. -- taking action against the Sharks is crucial. | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
That is what the consumer or cops are trying to do. | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
Runcorn, home to 61,000 people. An industrial town with high | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
unemployment and a known haunt of on licensed moneylenders, which is | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
why today officers are leaflet in these estates. | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
-- Lisa 10. It has been targeted in the past. We're trying to make sure | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
the people do not use loan sharks in the future. It tends to be | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
close-knit communities that borrow from loan sharks, which is a | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
problem in terms of enforcement because people do not want to come | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
forward and talk about it. It gives the loan shark a in -- and in | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
because they are part of the community. The leaflets warn | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
residents of the dangers, and ask those of information about them -- | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
about loan sharks to come forward. There is a massive fear factor in | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
being seen as a grass. People have no idea this is an illegal activity. | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
They have no idea that Brian who is lending everybody money on the | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
estate needs a licence to do so. Sometimes a leaflet through the | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
door is what it takes for people to think, hang on, this sounds like me. | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
We offer a 247 service. Quite often, my team are dealing with calls in | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
the evening and weekend, because they are scared, because they have | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
concerns about court and they think they have seen a car following them | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
than the street. Most of the time, they have not and it is just that | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
they had been living in fear for that long. Any member of the public | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
that has come forward and stood up and be counted is very brave and | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
courageous. They are the people that are making the difference. | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
When we launched this project, everybody said that people would | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
not come to court but they do. They know when enough is enough and they | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
stand up and be counted. That is fantastic. We could not do it | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
without them. It was a tip-off from a brave member of the public that | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
leads to Jackie and her team for tracking down this loan shark. | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
Winston Mills, who four or five years terrorise those who owed him | :26:41. | :26:49. | |
money. -- a four or five years. would take their Post Office card | :26:50. | :26:56. | |
and intimidate them into repayment. A one group targeted were | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
vulnerable adults living in a block of flats in Manchester. One of the | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
relatives brought in to our attention and told us how he | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
operated. Armed with this information, trading standards | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
officers were able to track his movements, gathering evidence of | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
how he collected his payments. You can see from the CCTV footage | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
that clearly the loan shark is in complete control. That woman has | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
gone, collected her benefits, her and her mother's benefits, and he | :27:25. | :27:31. | |
has taken all the money and given her one note back. Clearly, the | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
evidence was presented, including the CCTV, resulted in the judge | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
saying that this was ruthless exploitation of a vulnerable person. | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
We share his view. Winston Mills was sentenced to 14 months in | :27:44. | :27:50. | |
prison. A loan shark no longer able to bully and intimidate the | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
vulnerable. Back to those gift cards and | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
vouchers that millions of us will be buying as Christmas presents | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
this year. Earlier, are a mystery shopper has put a few of the most | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
popular under the microscope, finding expiry periods of just 12 | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
months and some of them coming with restrictions on how they could be | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
redeemed. All in all, a good case for giving cash rather than cards | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
and vouchers. Andrew Johnson from the UK Gift Card & Voucher | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
Association joins me. Good morning. Cash is simple. At least it doesn't | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
have an expiry date. Giving cash shows that you have put no thought | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
into the gift. If you buy the right voucher from the right store, | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
you're on a winner. But it might be cold, but at least it runs -- it | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
does not run out. Why the expiry dates? It is down to accounting. | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
The retailer may not take revenue from a gift card at the time that | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
you buy it. It is only seen when you redeem the voucher. | :28:47. | :28:52. | |
Consequently, it stays on their books as a liability and that | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
liability for good accountancy practice needs to be cleared. | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
some stories do not have one. John Lewis, be a chance. Why do some | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
need them? It might be down to their accountant. -- BhS. It might | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
be down to young customers, so that it can be taken off their | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
liabilities. There is a lot of money wasted by the people buying | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
these vouchers. Something like �264 million goes unused. Would it not | :29:19. | :29:24. | |
be simpler if it was streamlined? What is really important is that | :29:24. | :29:26. | |
you were deemed gift cards and vouchers as soon as possible when | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
you get them. Research shows that on average you will redeem within | :29:32. | :29:36. | |
the first three months. If you do not, you may never do it. Retailers | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
want you in the stories. On average, we will spend 40% of the value that | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
we have on Get Carter vouchers. And you may buy a gift card or voucher | :29:45. | :29:51. | |
for a friend, and that friend may not like the store. Retailers see | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
it as a way of getting new customers. We have found out that | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
the most important thing is reading the small print because that can | :29:58. | :30:03. | |
make a difference. You do need to read the small print. It is usually | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
on the card and will also be on the retailer's website. The bottom line, | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
using vouchers are better than cash? Are absolutely. If you give | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
cash, it might be wasted on your electricity bill. By a gift card, | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
so the person can buy something they really want. And make sure to | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
readers of print. Time for a quick update on your e- | :30:26. | :30:36. | |
:30:36. | :30:41. | ||
Back to the gift cards and vouchers. My sister saw a weekend dinner date | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
online for a very good price. But she could not redeem the match as I | :30:46. | :30:55. | |
gave her online. Cash from now on! David says his airline told him he | :30:55. | :31:02. | |
had to put "Mr" at the start of his name and his wife had to Brit "Mrs" | :31:02. | :31:10. | |
at the start of her name. -- had to put. All for �200! | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
Many companies on the High Street have gone into administration and | :31:14. | :31:24. | |
:31:24. | :31:31. | ||
they could be more next year. Where When a company is insolvent and | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
eventually goes bust, the call or usually appoint an administrator to | :31:35. | :31:43. | |
handle the company's affairs. -- the court will usually a point. The | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
account will stay open and the shot was stay open in the next few weeks | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
to sell off stock. There are some great -- great clearance bargains | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
to be had but the whole process leaves many consumers high and dry. | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
A sci-fi border a product online from a company that has gone bust | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
will I still receive my product? -- so if I bought? For if you placed | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
an order with a company that has gone into liquidation you should | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
contact the retailer to find out the status of your order. If they | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
say your purchase is completed and packaged and ready to be dispatched, | :32:20. | :32:24. | |
they should be able to complete your order. But if they say your | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
goods are not ready for despatch you should contact the | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
administrator. Details of that should be readily available from | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
the retailer's website or in the press. But if you have trouble | :32:34. | :32:41. | |
finding out the information, contact the Companies House. Write | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
to the administrator giving him all of the information about your order. | :32:45. | :32:50. | |
But unfortunately, if he -- even if you have done all of that there is | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
no guarantee you will get all or even any of your money back because | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
it will depend how much money the company has and how many people are | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
making a claim. It is likely you will be at the bottom of a very | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
long list. What harm my rights to get my money back on my credit | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
card? -- what are my rights? will depend how much you have spent. | :33:10. | :33:16. | |
If you have spent between �100.30 �1,000 there is a good chance | :33:16. | :33:24. | |
you'll get your money back. -- between �100.30 �1,000 or stop if I | :33:24. | :33:30. | |
have bought something that needs returning, what can I do? | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
policy is unlikely to be upheld once the company has gone into | :33:34. | :33:38. | |
administration but if the shop is still open it is worth going in to | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
speak to staff about having a replacement. If they cannot give | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
you a replacement or if the store is closed you will have to place | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
the claim with the administrator. If I had a gift card or voucher | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
from a store that has gone bust, is the voucher now useless? This is | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
similar to where you have placed an order. You have parted with your | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
money but you don't yet have any goods. If the shop has been taken | :34:05. | :34:11. | |
over by another company the voucher may not be valid. And before you go, | :34:11. | :34:16. | |
remember, it is not just shops that can go under. If your bank were to | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
go under, do not worry. Your savings will be protected under | :34:20. | :34:26. | |
financial services compensation scheme up to �85,000. | :34:26. | :34:31. | |
Venky's. If you have had problems with a company and would like tips | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
on writing and effective letter of complaint, go to the website. -- | :34:35. | :34:42. | |
Venky's. Back to the north-west and a | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
crackdown on illegal lending. Trading Standards Officers are | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
cracking down and closing in on Ali gone under they believe is | :34:49. | :34:56. | |
operating in the Merseyside region. 6am and it is an early start for | :34:56. | :35:01. | |
Tony from the National Illegal Money Lending Team. This morning we | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
are going to a property in Merseyside where we have a warrant. | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
We have information of a potential illegal moneylender who has been | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
operating. It's a big operation than usual, with nine members of | :35:14. | :35:21. | |
the team onside, along with police back-up. We will have offices who | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
will be there to secure the initial entry. -- officers. And then search | :35:26. | :35:33. | |
teams who will be there to assist. We no evidence with illegal money | :35:33. | :35:37. | |
lenders can be obscured in the most unlikely places and they will be | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
experienced to know the sort of places where information like this | :35:40. | :35:47. | |
can be hidden. We never know how the records are being kept for | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
loans. It can be anything from a scrap of paper to a well documented | :35:51. | :35:56. | |
books. Any suspicious items will be removed of further investigation. | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
Any evidence of loan-sharking will almost certainly result in arrest | :36:00. | :36:05. | |
and later, prosecution. Loan- sharking is right up there with | :36:05. | :36:14. | |
some of the most hideous forms of criminality because the people they | :36:14. | :36:20. | |
target are particularly vulnerable and I don't care what anybody says. | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
When people say, it is just a community service, it isn't. These | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
people all about profiteering and extortion, and that is what we see | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
day-in, day-out. Some of the stories we hear of the way people | :36:34. | :36:43. | |
have been taken advantage of, it is really sad. It is a sad indictment | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
of what... This activity is all about. It is all about control, | :36:47. | :36:52. | |
powerful stop it is all about bullying. And it is all about | :36:52. | :36:58. | |
profiteering on the backs of people who can least afford it. When the | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
team is in position, two police officers Abridge the suspect's | :37:02. | :37:11. | |
property. -- approach. At the moment, no answers are potentially | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
we are considering whether to enter the property by force. One of the | :37:17. | :37:24. | |
officers' heads around the back of the house. After 10 minutes, still | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
no answer. Either nobody is in... Or somebody is inside and doesn't | :37:30. | :37:36. | |
want to answer. In accordance with the warrant, the team decides to | :37:36. | :37:46. | |
:37:46. | :37:47. | ||
enter by force. The house is, in fact, occupied, and the suspect | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
claims not to have heard the offices at the door. It is now time | :37:51. | :37:59. | |
for Tony's team to get to work. have got a suspect in the house at | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
the moment and we are going to see whether or not we find any evidence | :38:03. | :38:10. | |
of what has been going on and then potentially, if any evidence is | :38:10. | :38:20. | |
:38:20. | :38:22. | ||
found, then perhaps an arrest later After an hour of searching the | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
property, the subject is taken away for questioning. -- the suspect. | :38:27. | :38:33. | |
For the next two hours, the team conducts a search of the house. | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
search is very methodical. We searched each room, one by one and | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
each potential evidence -- the potential evidence is back and tact. | :38:42. | :38:50. | |
There are some interesting bits get and seized. It will be getting | :38:50. | :39:00. | |
:39:00. | :39:01. | ||
taken away. The suspect's car is also searched. And after three | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
hours of meticulous investigation, Tony and the team emerge with | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
evidence including paperwork and various electronic items such as | :39:08. | :39:14. | |
mobile phones. Normally the evidence will shine | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
through, if they have been carrying on illegal activity. From our | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
perspective, it has gone really well today. But it is going to be a | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
long day. There will be tired officers at the end of it. This is | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
just the beginning of the investigation, one of many | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
operations to rid the streets of loan sharks. I am with Tony quickly | :39:36. | :39:42. | |
he Wysall leading the operation. Have you got any updates? -- Tony | :39:42. | :39:48. | |
quickly who you saw. The subjects are -- the suspects are taking out | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
further it -- we're taking a further inquiries. We will not make | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
a decision until we have all the information in front of us. And | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
then we will decide, making a full choice as to the most appropriate | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
action for stomp we have seen that a lot of your job is building | :40:03. | :40:09. | |
awareness that loan sharks are operating. How can we spot one? | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
of the main attributes is the fact that it is normally through word of | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
mouth. Then there is no paperwork. Also, they keep full control of | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
what is happening, so we have seen loan sharks that can charge | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
hundreds of thousands of% -- hundreds of thousands of % on a | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
small pill that get out of control very quickly. -- small bill. If you | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
currently have a debt to somebody and you are unsure as to whether or | :40:39. | :40:46. | |
not they are a loan shark, contact the team. Debts to loan sharks are | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
enforceable, and we have seen occasions were loan sharks will | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
cause fear and intimidation to enforce it. If someone is in debt | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
to a loan shark, how can they get help? Run the team. Speak to an | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
investigator. We will support you through the process. That is what | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
we're here for. -- ring the team. We need the help from the public, | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
and we need them to be brave enough to pick up the phone and speak to | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
one of our officers. We will help them through that process. It is | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
important because loan for charts profiteer on the backs of some of | :41:20. | :41:27. | |
the Most Honourable Members of Our community. -- loan sharks. -- most | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
vulnerable members of our community. Give us a ring. If you were in debt | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
to a loan shark and you need some help, the information will be on | :41:35. | :41:42. | |
screen now. Another busy day in the mail room. | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
What are people saying? Loss of you getting in touch about | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
gift vouchers and complaining about expiry dates. One viewer says he | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
was given a voucher that was only valid for four months. Many of you | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
were clearly moved by that report on the loan shark victim who paid | :41:59. | :42:05. | |
�90,000 for �250. And that is all we have time for | :42:05. | :42:15. | |
this morning. Tomorrow, Esure, and Liverpool Victoria, changing | :42:15. | :42:22. | |
details on your policy could cost you. And mortgages, credit cards, | :42:23. | :42:26. |