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Openreach keeping you at arm's length. Pensions, think you know

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where your nest egg. Claiming insurance after the storm. National

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Express, McDonald's and I will be asking the Energy Secretary how bad

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does it have to get before the Government acts on the fuel bills.

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It's Watchdog, the programme you cannot afford to miss.

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Good evening. Welcome to Watchdog, we are live as usual for the next 60

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minutes. Tonight, Openreach, responsible for nearly all the

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country's Broadband and land lines. When things go wrong, it is almost

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impossible to get hold of them. I reckon we have probably called 200

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to 300 times. We are stranded, totally, and we just don't know

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where to turn next. Also the big six energy giants tell the Government,

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price increases aren't our fault. I will be asking the Energy Secretary

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Ed Davey what's he doing to stop our bills rising. Claiming for damage

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caused by this week's extreme weather. And Cash for Phones, they

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promised money for old mobiles in good condition, so why do they keep

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finding fault that no-one else can see?

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Tonight's Rogue Traders has the opposite problem. His handiwork is

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there for all to see and it's not pretty. Simon Slade of Monster

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Movers, we paid hymn to clear our house of unwanted junk and look

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where our sofa ended up. There is our fridge. Sadly for South Wales,

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it is fly-typical, so let's have a clear-up in a while. First,

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Openreach, it is owned by BT but runs separately. Openreach is

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responsible for keeping the vast majority of our Broadband and land

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lines working. And as well as BT, Talk Talk and skip, are entirely

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relying on it. When a fault happens these providers say they can't order

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Openreach to fix it. What hope for the customer.

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Openreach, the company's slogan sums up their task perfectly "keeping the

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nation connected". It is a massive job and one that

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comes with great responsibility. Because if you need a line installed

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or repaired, most of the time Openreach are the only ones who can

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do it for you. Meaning if anything goes wrong, you are entirely at

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their mercy. And things do go wrong a lot of the time. You have told us

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how you have been let down by the company leaving you no phone and

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Broadband, sometimes for weeks, if not months. That is what happened to

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Talk Talk customer Angela Jones. Both services failed completely in

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August. They informed me first of all that within 48 hours they would

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carry out some tests. And then hopefully the phone line would be

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fixed. But nothing changed. Using her mobile Angela called Talk Talk

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repeatedly. They told her the problem wasn't with them, but with

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the line that goes into her house. And that meant it was the

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responsibility of Openreach. That's where the real problem begins,

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because Openreach have a unique approach to customer service. They

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don't have any. The company won't let you complain to them directly.

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As customers, you can't contact them at all. It is set down in law that

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customers can only deal with their providers, not Openreach itself.

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Which means Angela had no choice but to keep ringing Talk Talk to find

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out about Openreach's progress. I didn't feel we were getting

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anywhere. Every time I saw an Openreach ban in the area I wanted

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to ask them, are you coming to fix my phone. Because it was just so

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frustrating. After a month, Openreach finally sent out an

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engineer, but he didn't have good news. He told her that cabling had

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decayed and the repair job would be a long one. Powerless to do

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anything, Angela had no choice but to sit and wait. But what she didn't

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know was that she wasn't the only one waiting on Openreach. I didn't

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realise how many other people were affected, until I was gardening on

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the front and bumped into a few neighbours and happened to mention

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to them, have you got any problems with your phone or internet and they

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said yes. Each family had their own story. Broadband went down, children

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at home, homework. It was difficult. When I tried phoning my number, you

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got an unobtainable phone. If people were ringing the business and

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getting that, they are thinking what's happened to you. With my

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girls both doing degrees at the moment, they couldn't e-mail their

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lecturers. It was quite stressful. Didn't get any phone and didn't get

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internet. Our older age group, we don't use mobiles, we rely on the

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land line. A wide array of service providers serve the residents and

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all said exactly the same thing- they were powerless to do anything

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because Openreach was to blame. Around 14 families on this street

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were without a phone connection or Broadband for two months. Imagine

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how frustrating that would be. Families unable to communicate with

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loved ones, people unable to run businesses and some elderly on this

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street cut off from the outside world. Eventually the residents

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decided enough was enough. Unable to contact the company themselves, they

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put together a petition and took it to their local MP, Labouring fox. He

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took the case on -- Liam Fox. He took the case on and it did the

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trick. After two months without land lines or Broadband, the repyre work

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was carried out and their service was returned. But what about those

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people who haven't got the time or political collateral to take

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Openreach on. Do they get treated differently. According to xheshz

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like Darren, they -- customers like Darren, they do. He's now been

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without a reliable phone or Broadband connection for four

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months. But even though BT and Openreach are part of the same

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company, it isn't easier to get answers. I have to go through BT. I

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can't go through Openreach because they are separate contracted company

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to BT and I am not allowed to talk to them. It makes it so frustrating,

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I can't tell them the problems we have here rather than going through

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somebody in a call centre somewhere. I reckon we have probably called up

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to 300 times, we have had six engineer visits, only three

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attended. They came back to us and said there was a break in the line

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out on the main road. Nobody has come out and replaced the cable.

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Openreach have told BT they are waiting for council permission to

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work on the road before repairs can take place. But to Darren this feels

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like just another excuse. It is disgraceful, because I am told by BT

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I have to pay for my Broadband, I have to pay for my telephone line

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and I get nothing. And there are many other people across the country

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who are just as unhappy with the level of service they receive from

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Openreach. At one point last year it took the company 27 days on average

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to install a new line. There may be some glimmer of hope. Ofcom has

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launched a review of Openreach's quality of service and is expected

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to impose tougher standards on the company. This report which is due to

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conclude next year was prompted not by complaints made from customers,

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but from other service providers. They were sick of having to come up

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with excuses about problems that only Openreach could sort out. The

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hope is this tougher stance from Ofcom will ensure more is done for

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customers like Darren and the street affected in ports head, to hold

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Openreach to their promise of keeping the nation connected.

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Until then, most of us remain totally dependent on Openreach doing

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their job. BT Openreach are a faceless organisation. We are

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stranded, totally, and we just don't know where to turn next. Ricky

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Boleto reporting. Openreach say they would like to apologise to all of

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the people featured in our report. It says it recognises it took far

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too long to resolve the faults and appreciates that losing telephone

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and internet is a considerable inconvenience. It says its engineers

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carry out more than 160,000 jobs a week and each takes on average just

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over three days, but complex cases longer. Because of our report,

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Openreach says it has carried out a full investigation will improve the

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services they provide to all communication providers and their

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customers. I haven't the foggiest idea what that actually means.

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If you want to comment on that or any other story you think we should

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be aware of, please get in touch: National Express, why does getting

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off the coach a stop earlier cost more than staying on until the end?

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I see Rogue Traders as a life-long quest, we find it, film it, flaunt

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it. So far this series we have seen the flat fee fraudsters of Finchley,

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the hire car catastrophe of Kent. But so far nothing from Wales. Well,

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that is another thing we intend to put right.

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Monster, yes I am off on a monster hunt to Cardiff. We all know about

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dragons but Wales has no end of forgotten mythical creatures.

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For instance, the Afanc, described as a crocodile, beaver or dwarf like

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creature. It was rendered helpless by a beautiful maiden and fell

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asleep on her lap, but while it slept her fellow villagers chained

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it to her lap, and it was so enraged the thrashing killed her. It is all

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true of course. Why do I tell you this? The dragon may not have been

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seen for a while but there is another monster loose in the value

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ice, Simon -- valleys. Simon Slade. He offers house clearance and

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revolves to pick-ups and deliveries. The name of his company- Monster

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Movers of Cardiff. You see, monsters, we don't just throw this

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stuff together. For a fee Slade will clear unwanted junk from your house.

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The trouble is he has a nasty habit of dumping it in the countryside.

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That's right, Simon Slade is a fly tipper. Cardiff Council has been on

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his trail for quite some time and though he's been summoned to appear

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in front of them three times, he's only shown up once. Even then he

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refused to say anything. Catching fly tippers in the act is

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notoriously difficult. That, my friends, is where we come in. It

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does feel as though we need to know whether tonight Slade is top of the

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drops. If only we had some way of monitoring his movements. Like a

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tracker. We have got ourselves GPS trackers,

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a team of handy researchers and a house in the fly tippers favourite

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place, the countryside. We hastily assemble a pile of furniture and

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junk. We then ask Simon Slade and Monster Movers to take it away from

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us. Before he arrives we also cover all the objects with smart water.

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Although it is naked to the invisible eye, it contains a unique

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fingerprint that means it is uniquely identifiable and it shines

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under a UV light. They quickly get to work filling

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their van with our items. In order to carry other people's

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unwanted stuff a trader must hold a waste carrier's licence, but Slade

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doesn't have one. He's immediately breaking the law by taking away our

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trash. As for the cost of the job: As Simon says, he can make money

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from selling some of the items on, so he agrees to take it all away for

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?45. With that, they head off. Meanwhile

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our team jump straight on their laptops and start monitoring the

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trackers to watch where they go. It isn't into town where they might be

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able to sell the items on. Instead they head for a narrow road away

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from our house about a mile and they stop. They don't move for the next

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35 minutes. Are they having the world's longest fag break? Have they

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decided the van needs a wash. The team decides to check it out. They

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follow the signal down this road. By an even darker looking wood. The

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trackers still haven't moved. So are they just going to find Simon parked

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up on his van. Or is something else waiting for the team around the

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corner? That is what you call a cliff hanger. Simon Slade is a man

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in a van, but what exactly is his plan. Has he disposed of our rubbish

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correctly or left the Welsh countryside looking like a graveyard

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for unwanted goods. Last week we reported on how

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complicate it had can be to find the best deals on train tickets. Now

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it's the turn of coaches. We have noticed that on certain routes run

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by National Express, it can be cheaper to travel all the way to the

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final destination, than it is to get off at the same bus a couple of

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stops earlier. In other words the further you travel the less they

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charge. I use National Express to go to

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Heathrow, but this summer I had to go to the centre of London and I

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found myself on the same coach I use to go to Heathrow, it continues to

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London Victoria coach station. But the price was a great deal less, and

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that seemed strange. When I had to book a ticket to go to Heathrow in

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October I checked and indeed it is ?11. 70 if I want to get off at

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Heathrow but only ?7. 90 if I am happy to sit on into the centre of

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London. I couldn't understand that. I contracted National Express and

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asked why. She couldn't answer that. You have other examples. I tried to

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book some tickets last Friday for journeys on Monday. If you want to

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travel from London toe Thetford, you need the NX491, that terminates at

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Norwich. A single costs ?16. 80. If you stayed on the same bus to its

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final destination, you would be charged ?14. 4.70. Why is it called

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NX491? That's ?2. Ten cheaper for travelling further.

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It doesn't make any sense at all. Try this second example. If you want

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to travel from Bristol to London, the bus stops at Earl's Court and

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London Victoria. A ticket to Earl's Court earlier stop ?18. 8.90. But

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three miles further up the road and you half your cost to just ?9. You

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may as well pay to do the whole journey. If you wanted to take the

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NX538 a coach from Birmingham to Hamilton near Glasgow, the cheapest

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ticket we could find was ?54. 70. The price to go one step further on

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the same bus was ?14. 50. How do they explain it all. We asked

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them to explain it. It offers promotional online only low price

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deals. It offers no ex-planation why

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travelling further on the same journey should cost any less. The

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moral of the story is, always check because it could be cheaper to get a

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ticket for a long journey and jump off.

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Next energy bills. ScottishPower are the fourth company to announce it is

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raising gas and electricity prices. The big six appeared in front of the

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House of Commons Select Committee yesterday and blamed the Government

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and increased cost of wholesale fuels. Meanwhile the boss of one of

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the smaller energy companies claimed wholesale prices have gone down so

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there is no excuse for hefty price rises. As we showed last week,

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switching suppliers can save money. Bill from the Isle of Wight did it

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after watching the show. Over the next 12 months his bills will be

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?245 cheaper. Julia North-Lewis from Stroud will be ?566 better off by

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switching and best of all, Sean from Bedfordshire set to save about

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?1,000. He and his family of six were with npower, putting them back

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to one of the standard tariffs he's moved to a fix tariff with

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ScottishPower, cutting ?944 off his bill. That's what we can do for

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ourselves. With me now the Energy Secretary Ed Davey. It looks as if

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the Government's a bit of a chocolate teapot standing by,

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watching this happen. The scandal unfold. How bad does it have to get

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before you do something. We have been doing a lot. We are try to go

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help particular customers get money off their bills. We have introduced

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the warm home discount taking ?135 directly off bills of two million

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low income people. I have been pushing competition in our energy

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bill to make sure in the wholesale markets and retail markets we are

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pushing prices down as much as we can. I want to do more and tomorrow

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in the House of Commons in the annual energy statement, I will be

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announcing that we will do an annual competition assessment to make sure

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these big six feel the pressure of competition, so the switching that

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you saw and savings people can make by switching, that you have shown,

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that more people can benefit. How long will the competition test

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testing take to come to fruition? The first competition assessment

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which I will announce tomorrow will report in spring next year. The

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point is this winter, four million households are not going to be able

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to pay their bill. Last year winter deaths were 20,000, likely to be

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increased this year. John Major says a windfall tax, Ed Miliband says I

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will freeze prices if I come in. People need something to happen now.

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Well, they do and I am very worried about energy bills. When I became

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Secretary of State I made it one of my priorities to do a lot. I haven't

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mentioned collective switching, enabling people to pool their

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purchasing power and people are using these now and making big

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sayings, like the people who you showed earlier. Those are things

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people can do now. If people want to get tip building society how they

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can save energy and -- tips about how they can save energy, we have a

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helpline, open from 9am to 8pm, people can get that advice and I

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believe it can help people. When the big six appeared for the Commons

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Select Committee yesterday, they bamboozled their way through saying

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everything was transparent. But it is not. One of the MPs said he

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wasn't any the wiser. Have you got a grip on what they really make? I

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think there needs to be more transparency in the big six. Do you

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actually know? Tomorrow I am going to be announcing we are going to

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have much more transparency. I have asked the independent regulator off

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gem to do a study into the financial transparency to make

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recommendations. Nobody has any face left in off gem was they have done

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nothing over the last few years. How can you do anything if you don't

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really know the maths of what's happening in those private

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companies? With new lead leadership, new framework in our energy bill to

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make sure off gem are tougher, we have given them tougher powers so

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they can act. For example, if an energy company rips you off and they

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are fined, in the past those fines used to go to the Exchequer. In the

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future, they will go to the consumer, they will get the benefit.

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We are talking action, but I am not complacent. We need to do more. I

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share people's concerns that the big six need to feel the pressure of

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competition and be far more transparent. We are not going to

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allow them get away with hiding things from people, from parliament

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and ministers. The energy companies are now responsible for helping

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vulnerable people. You have asked them to explain how they are going

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to go about that. That is exactly the problem. It is the tail wagging

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the dog. You have to ask them. They are a law on to themselves. We tell

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them, there's something called the energy company obligation. We are

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forcing them through that to put any energy efficiency into the poorest

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people's homes. Tackling fuel poverty, we are making them do it

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through laws. That is what we should do. These energy companies are here

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to serve us, and we are going to use all the power at our disposal to

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make that happen. Why don't you have a full audit, so you really, really

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know if they are ripping us off and how much they are ripping us off.

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That is what I am announcing tomorrow. This trarns porncy report.

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-- transparency report. We have a basis to make sure that they can't

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be this hiding that we have seen. I wrote myself to the Chief Executive

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of the big six recently because they were try to go blame the Government,

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always blaming someone else. We can do more, I am not complacent. You

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have taken time. From day one, I have been on this case. We have got

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these collective switching, something that actually people

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haven't heard much about. The big energy saving network, helping

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people in the communities. Thank you.

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Still to come, ?3 billion of unclaimed pension money is sitting

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there. Back to Wales and Simon Slade's company Monster Movers. Not

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to be confused with monsters of the same name.

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We have paid him to take away a load of household furniture and he's

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promised either to sell it all on or take it to a licenced tip. Except,

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we know he hasn't. Because we have tracked his van. Who needs Tonto

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when you have one of these. The tracker is hidden inside the sofa

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and fridge and have led us to this road less than a mile away from our

:25:16.:25:19.

stooge house. They were driven straight here and haven't budged for

:25:20.:25:24.

over 35 minutes, so what has he been up to. We get our answer as we move

:25:25.:25:28.

around the corner. That's our sofa, dumped by the side

:25:29.:25:40.

of the road. After investigation we find our fridge thrown in the

:25:41.:25:46.

bushes, too. A UV torch reveals, reveals the smart water we poured

:25:47.:25:50.

over them. There is no doubt. He came straight here from our house

:25:51.:25:52.

and dumped them shortly after picking them up. Let's take a look

:25:53.:25:59.

at the bigger picture. Fly-tipping is a real problem in this part of

:26:00.:26:04.

Wales. Take a look at this place. These fly tips aren't Simon Slade's

:26:05.:26:08.

handiwork but they are typical of quite a few sites in the area. They

:26:09.:26:13.

should be areas of outstanding natural beauty, not full of things

:26:14.:26:18.

people don't want any more. This is Gary Evans, he runs an action group

:26:19.:26:22.

tasked with putting a stop to it. The thing that a lot of people end

:26:23.:26:27.

up saying when we do stories about fly tip something that councils seem

:26:28.:26:30.

to be making it more and more difficult and more expensive to get

:26:31.:26:40.

rid of things. Over 80 civic sites in Wales and they accept waste.

:26:41.:26:45.

However unlike members of the public, traders like Simon Slade,

:26:46.:26:48.

who have a commercial vehicle, have to pay to dump other people's waste

:26:49.:26:54.

at the tip. If you are employing somebody to get rid of waste, it is

:26:55.:26:58.

going to cost you money. Householders should know if somebody

:26:59.:27:01.

comes to take their waste away for them, they should be a registered

:27:02.:27:05.

waste carrier and taking it to a licenced facility. If you don't ask

:27:06.:27:11.

the trader whether you have a licence and rubbish is traced back

:27:12.:27:15.

to you, you could be held liable. If somebody says I can get rid of that

:27:16.:27:19.

waist for you for ?20, be suspicious. And suspicious we are.

:27:20.:27:24.

But we need to put Simon Slade to the test a second time. That's one

:27:25.:27:31.

fridge, and one sofa. Dumped in the middle of nowhere and going rusty

:27:32.:27:36.

and soggy, until we come and clear it up. Although usually it would be

:27:37.:27:40.

the council doing the same with your money. But we are nice like that.

:27:41.:27:45.

It's only one example. That one was a little bit country. The next one

:27:46.:27:52.

will be rock'n'roll. We are heading to the big city, Cardiff Central, we

:27:53.:28:04.

have new stooges, Phil and Elaine, like a TV couple. They invite

:28:05.:28:10.

Monster Movers to carry out another house clearance. This time we up the

:28:11.:28:20.

ante and give him loads more stuff. Including on old mattress, and

:28:21.:28:23.

broken fridge. If he plans to dispose of all this stuff legally he

:28:24.:28:26.

is going to have to take it to a tip. And if he is going to do that

:28:27.:28:30.

he should charge us a realistic sum of money. Once again we cover our

:28:31.:28:33.

stuff with smart water. Once again we place two trackers

:28:34.:28:45.

amongst the items so we can monitor their journey. The whole team is

:28:46.:28:50.

ready to roll. All we need now is Simon Slade.

:28:51.:29:18.

A clear statement of intent for Simon Slade, he will either steal or

:29:19.:29:22.

dispose of it properly. He should charge us far more than

:29:23.:29:34.

the ?45 he did the job for last time. How much do you want, fella?

:29:35.:29:41.

That doesn't bode well, there is no way a second hand shop will take

:29:42.:29:46.

this old rubbish. If he takes the stuff to the tip, he will be making

:29:47.:29:48.

a loss. As soon as he leaves the team hits

:29:49.:30:02.

the laptops again and picks up the signal made by our trackers. His

:30:03.:30:07.

first stop is at a local second hand shop, presumably attempting to sell

:30:08.:30:11.

as much of the stuff as he can. But he clearly isn't able to sell all

:30:12.:30:14.

our items because our trackers are soon on the move again. We lose our

:30:15.:30:19.

signal for a few hours, so while we wait for it to kick in we retire for

:30:20.:30:23.

the day. Then all of a sudden, the signal comes back and we know where

:30:24.:30:29.

our stuff is. It leads us down one of the side streets beloved of fly

:30:30.:30:34.

tippers and there, sure enough, a familiar sight awaits. Blocking the

:30:35.:30:40.

road, a mattress and sofa bed, Simon Slade promised us he would be

:30:41.:30:45.

selling or taking to the tip. The UV light can't v hide the green mark of

:30:46.:30:50.

shame. We return to the site to see the fly

:30:51.:30:55.

tip in daylight and what becomes clear is that our mattress and sofa

:30:56.:30:59.

are lying in the gap directly between someone's house and their

:31:00.:31:02.

garage. It is hardly a good look for the neighbourhood. And it will be up

:31:03.:31:06.

to the council and our taxes to get it cleared. All because Simon Slade

:31:07.:31:11.

was too laysy to do it himself. It turns out Slade is a country mouse

:31:12.:31:16.

and a city mouse. He doesn't care where weather he is ruining the

:31:17.:31:20.

Welsh countryside or Wales's number one city. It's time to catch up with

:31:21.:31:25.

the skipper of this team of tippers. Prepare to be moved.

:31:26.:31:29.

We have had enough of Simon Slade and his rubbish so we are going to

:31:30.:31:35.

call him out to make one last house-call and it is an address

:31:36.:31:38.

where I happen to be a temporary resident. When I say hello, will he

:31:39.:31:44.

clean up or clear out? Before that, mobile phones,

:31:45.:31:48.

technology is changing by the minute. New handsets released daily.

:31:49.:31:53.

Once you have upgraded what do you do with your old phone? Leave it in

:31:54.:31:58.

a drawer, and people at home I am sure tend to do the same. Look at

:31:59.:32:03.

all these phones, do you recognise them? Long since forgotten models. I

:32:04.:32:10.

am going to pick out one here, a Nokia, no touch screen, can't pick

:32:11.:32:15.

up e-mails, can't take photographs of anyone. Just to make phone calls,

:32:16.:32:21.

how embarrassing. Do you recognise that? I had one of those, the 84

:32:22.:32:28.

election, following Mrs Thatcher. You don't have to keep any of these

:32:29.:32:34.

in a drawer. Companies are now offer to go buy your old phone and claim

:32:35.:32:38.

the better the condition the more they will pay. One of the biggest

:32:39.:32:42.

operators is Cash for Phones. Here is the ad. Go online, find your

:32:43.:32:48.

phone and send it to us in the free post envelope. Get paid by cheque or

:32:49.:32:53.

direct bank transfer. It's all in the name. It sounds so simple but

:32:54.:32:58.

from what you have been telling us, dealing with Cash for Phones is

:32:59.:33:01.

anything but. This is Pip Wilson. She decided to use the company to

:33:02.:33:05.

trade in her old iPhone four. She filled in all the details on the

:33:06.:33:10.

website and was told they would give her ?130, if the phone was in

:33:11.:33:14.

working order. It was. She sent it off. I was really careful to wrap it

:33:15.:33:21.

up in bubble wrap, I couldn't see any scratches on it, and it was as

:33:22.:33:26.

new as far as I was concerned. Cash for Phones took a different view.

:33:27.:33:31.

After a week, pip received an e-mail telling her having examined her

:33:32.:33:33.

phone they were changing their offer. They said it was only worth

:33:34.:33:39.

?47 because it had excessive scratching on the screen which it

:33:40.:33:43.

definitely didn't have. I just feel really angry with the way Cash for

:33:44.:33:47.

Phones have treated me and the way they operate. I just think it is

:33:48.:33:51.

appalling. Pip didn't want to accept such a dramatically lower price so

:33:52.:33:55.

instead wrote to Cash for Phones and asked them to return her handset. I

:33:56.:34:00.

paid for the return postage and then seven days later still hadn't

:34:01.:34:03.

received the phone back. Hadn't heard anything. I then emailed them

:34:04.:34:08.

through their contact form on their website. Didn't get any response, so

:34:09.:34:14.

I was just complete completely of stumped. Cash for Phones obviously

:34:15.:34:19.

didn't want to lose her business, because rather than returning her

:34:20.:34:24.

phone they contacted her with a new improved offer, raising their price

:34:25.:34:31.

up to ?110. Delighted Pip agreed but her story doesn't end there. As far

:34:32.:34:35.

as I was concerned I had accepted their new offer. And the money would

:34:36.:34:39.

be paid into my account within a few days. I waited for a month and I am

:34:40.:34:44.

still waiting. I haven't heard anything and just waiting for them

:34:45.:34:49.

to pay the money into my account. I bet you know what is going on. All

:34:50.:34:55.

we know Pip's story isn't a one-off. We have thousands of complaints from

:34:56.:35:00.

people. They sent off what they thought was a perfectly decent

:35:01.:35:05.

phone, only for the company to lower the offer. By which stage Cash for

:35:06.:35:11.

Phones have your phone, you over a barrel. As we saw with Pip, you can

:35:12.:35:17.

turn down the offer but it charges you to send your phone back. We put

:35:18.:35:22.

Cash for Phones to the test. We took an iPhone four and went on to the

:35:23.:35:26.

website to find out how much they would give us. Here is what

:35:27.:35:31.

happened. The company quoted us ?105. 50 and told us they would make

:35:32.:35:35.

the final offer once they received the phone and had the opportunity to

:35:36.:35:38.

assess its condition. Before we sent it off, we wanted to be sure that we

:35:39.:35:43.

knew what kind of state it was in. We asked three mobile phone

:35:44.:35:48.

specialists to check it over for us. It looks like a perfectly decent

:35:49.:35:58.

example of hand iPhone. Pretty good continue. It was a beautiful,

:35:59.:36:06.

reliable, phone that behaved flawlessly. We even took it to a lab

:36:07.:36:14.

and ransom diagnostic tests. Phone doctors are mobile repair

:36:15.:36:16.

specialists, what did they make of it? There is no excessive scuffing

:36:17.:36:22.

or scratching, no major wear and tear. It couldn't really be any

:36:23.:36:31.

clearer. Our iPhone four is in excellent condition. There should be

:36:32.:36:34.

no reason for Cash for Phones to offer us anything other than the

:36:35.:36:41.

?105. 50 they quoted us. We sent it off and waited. A few days later the

:36:42.:36:45.

same thing that happened to Pip and hundreds of others Watchdog viewers

:36:46.:36:51.

happened to us as well. Cash for Phones dropped their offer to just

:36:52.:36:57.

?42. 2.20. Their ex-planation, excessive wear and tear. Even though

:36:58.:37:02.

not one of our four experts could find a single thing wrong with our

:37:03.:37:06.

phone. We returned to the lab to get the reaction to what Cash for Phones

:37:07.:37:11.

told us. Someone is telling a few porkies I think. There's no

:37:12.:37:18.

excessive wear and tear. No obvious signs of liquid damage or kroergs. I

:37:19.:37:25.

think -- corrosion. That is not an honest appraisal. What a surprise.

:37:26.:37:30.

The company told us it receives up to 10,000 phones every week, a

:37:31.:37:33.

routine test procedure is run on them all. Due to the large volume

:37:34.:37:41.

volumes errors do occur. Cash for Phones apologised to Pip Wilson and

:37:42.:37:45.

have resolved the situation, paying her ?110 she was offered and says

:37:46.:37:49.

the diagnosis of excessive wear and tear on our phone was mistakenly

:37:50.:37:53.

made by a Treonee. Very professional. Next pensions, a

:37:54.:37:58.

staggering one in four of us doesn't know where our money has ended up.

:37:59.:38:05.

People are likely to work for a number of organisations. Some

:38:06.:38:08.

employers offer their own pension scheme. If these different pots of

:38:09.:38:13.

money aren't consolidated it is easy to lose track of who has got your

:38:14.:38:18.

cash. You would think that getting your

:38:19.:38:23.

hands on your pension would be a relatively simple process. After

:38:24.:38:27.

all, it is yours. But it seems keeping track of it is no longer the

:38:28.:38:33.

easy task it once was. I have come to Chester to meet a man trying to

:38:34.:38:37.

locate his pension fund for nearly a year. Even though he has been

:38:38.:38:42.

searching all this time, he still is no closer to finding out where his

:38:43.:38:50.

retirement one is. Mike works here at the riverside campus of the

:38:51.:38:55.

university. When I knew it was a pension story, I was expecting an

:38:56.:38:58.

older man than you. You are fit and well, are you? I am fit and well,

:38:59.:39:03.

yes. How old are you? 53. What made you think about tracing your pension

:39:04.:39:08.

fund? With a new job I have taken up, there was a good pension fund,

:39:09.:39:12.

and what I wanted to do was add my old pensions to that pot. I want to

:39:13.:39:18.

know how much I am going to be worth to my grandchildren and children

:39:19.:39:22.

when I hit 65. Mike has worked for various companies throughout his

:39:23.:39:26.

career. In three of those jobs he made monthly payments into company

:39:27.:39:29.

pension schemes, but over time as he moved from job to job, he lost the

:39:30.:39:34.

details of where each pension and re was and how much each was worth.

:39:35.:39:37.

Task number one, was finding them again. How easy was it to track down

:39:38.:39:42.

the money and get the money in the account? Two of the companies it was

:39:43.:39:48.

very easy. Speak to the pensions administrator at the company, they

:39:49.:39:51.

give you a figure and that is what you transfer. It was easy with them.

:39:52.:39:56.

But not with all of them? No, it wasn't easy for a company based in

:39:57.:40:03.

Telford an hour away from here. Show me where you used to work. This is

:40:04.:40:11.

the former headquarters of the electronics firm Tatung UK Ltd. He

:40:12.:40:19.

believes he paid around ?5400 in the company pension scheme. Since

:40:20.:40:24.

leaving he hasn't given this place much thought. When you are trying to

:40:25.:40:32.

track down your pension pot, what happened? I rang the old phone

:40:33.:40:36.

number for the company, somebody else answered the phone, nothing to

:40:37.:40:41.

do with the company, Tatung doesn't exist any more. Mike did some

:40:42.:40:46.

research and came across a government organisation called the

:40:47.:40:50.

pension tracing service. Used by almost 100,000 people a year, they

:40:51.:40:55.

were set up to help people like Mike find their pensions. But they had no

:40:56.:41:00.

record of what happened to the Tatung company scheme. Once again,

:41:01.:41:04.

Mike was on his own. Eventually using social media sites, he managed

:41:05.:41:09.

to track down a former colleague. I was very lucky to make contact with

:41:10.:41:12.

someone who worked with me in sales. Who knew somebody in marketing, who

:41:13.:41:16.

knew somebody in the accounts department. Who knew the general

:41:17.:41:21.

manager who happened to have the name of the pension administrator at

:41:22.:41:26.

the time who happened to have the basic information for me to trace

:41:27.:41:30.

the pension through Scottish Widows. Pension schemes can be shoaled from

:41:31.:41:33.

company to company. Your former employers have to inform you if that

:41:34.:41:38.

happens. If you change job, address or surname, it is easy for that

:41:39.:41:43.

information to get lost in time. Mike's colleague was able to give

:41:44.:41:46.

him one crucial piece of information that at some point the company

:41:47.:41:51.

pensions had been bought by Scottish Widows. Automatically, it's time to

:41:52.:41:56.

celebrate, the cash is coming in? No. Why not? They said eventually

:41:57.:42:02.

that, yes, we do have a pension for you, it's worth ?1915. I knew it

:42:03.:42:07.

couldn't be right, I knew the moment he said it, as I know I had paid in

:42:08.:42:15.

around ?5400, this couldn't be the pension fund or if it was it was

:42:16.:42:18.

only part of it. You have hit another brick wall. Yes. We are

:42:19.:42:22.

going to try and help you out as much as possible. We will do some

:42:23.:42:27.

rummaging. Keep your fingers crossed.

:42:28.:42:32.

We asked pension tracing specialist Sean Davis to take a look at Mike's

:42:33.:42:38.

case for us. He searched company records, contacted over 20 different

:42:39.:42:43.

pension providers and spoke to independent advisors. A week later I

:42:44.:42:48.

brought Mike to hear the results. The moment of truth for you. First

:42:49.:42:53.

and foremost, tell Mike what happened to his pension, what

:42:54.:42:58.

happened to the Tatung pensions. They were split, so they went to

:42:59.:43:04.

league and general, and to -- Legal and General and Scottish Widows. You

:43:05.:43:07.

were only in one of those schemes. And that got transferred to Scottish

:43:08.:43:12.

Widows. I know you are going to say it, what happened to my money, why

:43:13.:43:16.

has it gone from ?5,000 to less than ?2,000. That pension pot over time

:43:17.:43:22.

has now reduced down to what it is. Under ?2,000. Oh, right. How do you

:43:23.:43:29.

feel about that? That is a bit disappointing. So there isn't

:43:30.:43:33.

another pot somewhere, that is all that's left. That's correct. It

:43:34.:43:38.

turns out Scottish Widows bought Mike's pension fund in 2005 at a

:43:39.:43:46.

value of ?1339, but we know that Tatung wound up the pension in 1995,

:43:47.:43:51.

so that leaves a whole ten years unaccounted for. What happened to

:43:52.:43:56.

Mike's pension in that time? It may have been invested badly or may not

:43:57.:43:59.

have been that big in the first place. Either way, Mike's tale is a

:44:00.:44:03.

cautionary one. If he had kept on top of things and checked his fund

:44:04.:44:08.

every year, the minute it began to lose value he could have pulled it

:44:09.:44:13.

out and reinvest it had elsewhere. I am glad I start it had now and I am

:44:14.:44:18.

not 64 trying to find my pensions. Obviously I am disappointed that

:44:19.:44:21.

somehow my pension pot has managed to decrease. I have two other

:44:22.:44:26.

pensions that I found which are OK. But it shouldn't be this

:44:27.:44:29.

complicated. It shouldn't be this tough to find a pension. Hearing

:44:30.:44:35.

Mike's story has made me realise how important it is to keep an eye on

:44:36.:44:39.

your pension. It can get so complicated and you don't always

:44:40.:44:43.

know where they will end up. The crucial point is don't leave it

:44:44.:44:45.

until you are old. Deal with it now. Scottish Widows confirm it only

:44:46.:44:56.

bought Mike's pension in 2005 by which time it had a value of ?1339.

:44:57.:45:01.

It says it feels this case reflects the importance of everyone tracking

:45:02.:45:05.

their pension arrangements and ensuring pension providers are kept

:45:06.:45:08.

informed of all personal circumstances, for example change of

:45:09.:45:12.

address. Scottish Widows says it uses a tracking service to try and

:45:13.:45:16.

locate them whenever there is a significant event approaching, for

:45:17.:45:18.

instance in the month's running up to retirement. With me now, Chief

:45:19.:45:25.

Executive of the pension Pensions Advisory Service, Michelle

:45:26.:45:29.

Cracknell. Thank you for coming in. What is the obvious sign your

:45:30.:45:33.

pension has disappeared. If you are not receiving an annual statement,

:45:34.:45:38.

that is a good sign. Not all pension funds need to send you an annual

:45:39.:45:44.

statement. If you haven't received one, get in touch with them. If your

:45:45.:45:48.

pension seems to have disappeared, how do you track it down? The

:45:49.:45:52.

pension tracing service is a free service provided by the Government,

:45:53.:45:56.

it is a good place to start. We are a free pension information services,

:45:57.:46:00.

if you phone us up, we will ask you about who did you work for, how long

:46:01.:46:04.

did you work there, when did you work there and with that we should

:46:05.:46:08.

be able to narrow down the type of pension scheme you might have and

:46:09.:46:11.

recommend the sorts of organisations who may be able to help you trace

:46:12.:46:15.

it. Mike tried all those things and didn't work. It is a bit like

:46:16.:46:19.

looking for a needle in a haystack and that is one of the reasons for

:46:20.:46:22.

phoning us up, because we can nor owe choices down. The other

:46:23.:46:27.

important point is if the company has gone bust it doesn't mean you

:46:28.:46:30.

have lost your pension assets but they will be paid out by a different

:46:31.:46:35.

body and we would recommend if the company has gone bust you contact

:46:36.:46:38.

either the pension protection fund or phone around the insurance

:46:39.:46:41.

companies. Legislation is changing. It is. It will make it harder to

:46:42.:46:45.

trace your pension because there will be less information held

:46:46.:46:48.

against your national insurance record. It is a really good reason

:46:49.:46:52.

to set out that list of what your pension is, who is going to pay it

:46:53.:46:56.

and the sooner you start that the easier it will be. Thanks for

:46:57.:47:01.

sending in all the stories. Here are a few more.

:47:02.:47:07.

McDonald's announce this week that it is to end its decade's long

:47:08.:47:12.

relationship with sauce manufacturer Heinz. The fast food chain has

:47:13.:47:16.

decide today stop serving their ketchup in all 30,000 of its

:47:17.:47:20.

restaurants worldwide, despite having worked with them for 40

:47:21.:47:25.

years. The company says the decision was made after Heinz made a recent

:47:26.:47:30.

change of management, which is a plight way of saying McDonald's

:47:31.:47:33.

don't like the fact they have employed this man, as their new

:47:34.:47:38.

Chief Executive. He used to wear the cardboard crown as boss of arch

:47:39.:47:42.

rivals Burger King. The message here- pick a fight with

:47:43.:47:51.

a clown, and you are going down. German airline Lufthansa had its

:47:52.:47:56.

wings clipped by the Advertising Standards Authority. Europe one way

:47:57.:47:59.

for ?59, said the ad, complete with a lady looking thrilled at the

:48:00.:48:03.

price. But check the small print and it tells you a very different story,

:48:04.:48:09.

economy class one way fare to selected German destinations. The

:48:10.:48:19.

offer was only value identify on certain flights and only a handful

:48:20.:48:23.

of seats were ever available at the suggested ?59 fare. As a result, the

:48:24.:48:29.

A SA80 ruled the ad was misleading and now it's been banned and that

:48:30.:48:36.

will wipe the smile off her face. In the aftermath of storm St Jude,

:48:37.:48:40.

millions have been left wondering if the damage to their property will be

:48:41.:48:45.

compensated. Good news from the association Fe Association of

:48:46.:48:49.

British Insurers, it tells Watchdog, everyone with household, business or

:48:50.:48:52.

comprehensive motor insurance policies should be covered. And that

:48:53.:48:58.

most home insurance policies will arrange all tachetive acome --

:48:59.:49:05.

alternative acome nation -- accommodation while repairs are

:49:06.:49:09.

done. The ABI advise hiring a professional and keep all receipts.

:49:10.:49:12.

They will be needed to claim back the costs. It stresses no major

:49:13.:49:17.

repair work should be arranged without the knowledge of your

:49:18.:49:20.

insurance company and most importantly, no-one should attempt a

:49:21.:49:24.

risky piece of DIY, insurance companies are there to handle the

:49:25.:49:28.

arrangements, that is what you pay them for.

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Back to Monster Movers of Cardiff. We have seen their boss Simon Slade

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take our household items and sling them across the back streets of

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South Wales. One more thing to do then, meet him and have a chat.

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What do you do with the stuff you can't sell.

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Just look at what he actually did with what he couldn't get rid of. He

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fly tipped it here and there. I think he probably would fly tip in

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it any wrchlt we know he's had a talking to by the council for fly

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foping in the past. So I sent an e-mail showing the Rogue Traders

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team photos of his terrible tips and look at the effect it had on our

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researchers. Bad Simon Slade, bad. It's high time I had a word with

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him, but first we want to confront him with hard evidence to see how he

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reacts. Of course the best way to do that is through modern art. Meet our

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very own artist in residents Sophie, researcher by day but post modern

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art installation creator, half an hour later. She's really going for

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it, in the part now. This is a tenuous way for us to be

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able to project photographs of Simon Slade's misdemeanours on the walls.

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This is a dumpster, covered in ?20 notes. We have the projection, we

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have this green wheelie bin. Very, very unique. What goes in here? That

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will be you. Isle be hiding inside a wheelie bin

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waiting to pop out and say hello to Mr Slade.

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I also add some sound effects of my own. "Love and respect the Welsh

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countryside". Will he recognise those photos of

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his handiwork? We are about to find out. Come through, so, this is my

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latest installation, I need you, it is really important, the lights

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everything, I need it to be as it is, you know, because it is art.

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Simon Slade completely blanks his fly-tipping portraits on the wall.

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Maybe he is not an art fan! What do you think?

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What about the sound effects? I am going to have to be more obvious

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here. "-Simon Slade, I am talking about you".

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" Slade, I am talking about you". I can't be more obvious. Here goes.

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Hello Simon, BBC Rogue Traders, good to see you. We have identified you

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as not a monster house clearance guy but a monster fly tipper. You took

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two loads from us, from two separate addresses. The bits you wanted to

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recycle and that you could make cash from you took those and the other

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stuff you left in two different locations, one in the countryside,

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and one in the middle of Cardiff itself. I have put a bit of rubbish

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out, but... Why do you think that is all right? You can't take the vans

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to the tip. I only found out that after picking the stuff up. I

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thought if I took stuff from you, took it to the tip I could get rid

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of it. That's not trushgs we know where it went and we know how long

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it took you to Chuck it. In that little glade off the Newport road

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and it didn't take you 20 minutes. You never made it to the trip, you

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never tried. That is the problem with this. It is just down to

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laziness. I have stopped doing that now. Anyone who rings me, I do say

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no. I am not stupid. Most people would be out the door. I appreciate

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that. You are not going out the door but the reality is, you have got

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away with it until now. Two weeks ago I had a letter from the council

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saying I am getting done for it. Simon says because the council's

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warnings he stopped fly-tipping. Why therefore did he fly tip a sofa bed

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and mattress seven days ago. Maybe he needs the photos to jog his

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memory. There is the fridge. Do you remember that? I remember that.

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In any case, where it doesn't end up is in the countryside. We are not

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talking about a long time ago. Talking about a couple of weeks ago.

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I appreciate you standing here and talking about it. But it doesn't

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change the fact that until somebody comes to your door and points out

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the fact it is wrong and makes people's lives a misery and costs a

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lot of money to clear up. Why don't they let in vans. They charge you,

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that is the reality. I have stopped altogether. You can set up a million

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of these traps. We can't afford that. You won't catch me again, I

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have learnt my lesson, I know not to do it no more. I appreciate that. I

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am going to come out of the bin now. Nice to meet you.

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We hope we don't see you again either Simon or any of your rubbish

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scattered across the Welsh countryside. What's that going over

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the hill, Simon Slade of Monster Movers of car dichlt he held his

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hands up to fly tip ago fridge, sofa and mattress. Still no excuse. Any

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way, it's wheelie been an experience.

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All very nice though, friendly, apologetic, until later that

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evening, when he sent us a series of texts, for instance this one at 11.

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23. You might need a warrant as you left the house unlocked. I have

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moved in, get an eviction notice from the courts. Then this text at

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11. 24, I am going to check the other two houses and if they are

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open, I am taking them too. Who is having the last laugh now.

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We checked the houses and they were absolutely fine. So here it is, the

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last laugh on the face of Simon Slade, currently squatting on our

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rogue's gallery. A lot of response to an interview earlier with the

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