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Tomorrow's weather and another dull, damp start. Sunny skies News.

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Yes, hello, and good evening, and welcome to Watchdog. We're live as

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usual foreign the next 60 minutes. Tonight: Santander, RB Barclays -

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want a 25-year mortgage? Watch out if you're middle-aged. Most people

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will want to pay the mortgage back before they retire, but for those

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who can't or don't want to, they're definitelying discriminated against.

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Pet insurance: premiums now at a record high. Is it cheaper just to

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pay the vet bill? Our more later in life.

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But one industry is failing to recognise this trend: the mortgage

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companies. More and more, if you're of a

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certain age, they will refuse to lend to you, no matter the

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Even though these age limits refer to people in their seventies, it is

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having a major impact on people much younger.

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People like 48-year-old Carlin MahonY2 years ago, she signed up to

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a standard mortgage with Santander and was due to have paid it off by

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the age of 71. When she decided to downsize, she presumed she could

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take exactly the same mortgage with her. When I spoke to them they made

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it sound very easy. I thought it would be a paperwork exercise,

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really. What she didn't know was that since she had taken out her

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original mortgage, Santander had introduced their new policy, meaning

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all loans had to be paid off by 75 or retirement age. When they asked

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her when she planned to stop work, she got a nasty shock.

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They didn't ask me any questions about my finances, how much I

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earned, what my pension was, equity in the house - no financial

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questions at all.. On was, equity in the house - no financial questions

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at all. .it was just how old are you, and when are you going to

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retire? And then the whole process was stopped, and they declined me on

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that question. So why are companies like Santander

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putting so much emphasis on age and so little on your financial ability

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to repay? At the start of the credit crunch,

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lenders suddenly had a lot less money to lend and had to choose

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where to cut back on electing. Lending to older people was one of

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the areas where they chose to cut back. Even though lenders now do

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have more money to lend, they've not got back into this area. The choices

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are very limited for anybody who wants a mortgage beyond the age of

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75. The result of this discrimination is

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a shrinking market and limited choice for anyone over 45 who wants

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to take out a mortgage of 25 The 51-year-old, the cheapest rate

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they could get would be ?809. These extra charges really add up.

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Over the first five years of the mortgage alone, the 51-year-old

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would pay over ?4,500 more than the 44 more than the 44 ---year Almost

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?1 000 difference, so purely based on their age? Yes, the only

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differencing a small difference in age of six or seven years. Riz is

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here. Carlin, to go back to her, she had answer on the hop, didn't she,

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she said she was retired. In fact, she was well able to repay that

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mortgage, even if she did retire at 60, there was money there. Yes,

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absolutely. She's got a good guaranteed pension, but the point is

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that she wasn't even asked about that, and that is the flaw in the

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system. Lenders hear retirement age and an alarm bell goes off. She was

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rejected before she got the chance to prove that she could pay. It is

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age discrimination. Why can't they be done for age discrimination? When

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it comes to banking, mortgage and insurance industries, anti-age

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discrimination rules don't apply. The frustrating thing here is that

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it shunt mean that someone who has the ability to pay a mortgage

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regardless of their age is then penalised. We have persuade the some

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of these mortgage lenders to be a bit more flexible, haven't we? Yes,

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we've heard from some of them. Actually, there is no reason why

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they can't lend to older customers. You know, if they can prove that

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they can afford the repayments past retirement. I think some lenders are

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just playing it safe. Of course they are. Some do make exceptions, but it

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is more work for them because it basically means checking

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affordability on a case-by-case basis. So you've got to shop around,

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and a good result for Caro Lynn at the end, yes? Yes, a good result,

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because Santander has admitted because she wasn't a new customer,

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she should have been allowed to take her existing mortgage to her new

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property. It will now be refunding her the ?2,500 it took in early

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repayment charges and in the fees she spent getting a new mortgage

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elsewhere. Santander says it ties mortgage terms to an individual's

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working life as that is where affordability is best served. But,

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as in this case, it is prepared to make exceptions.

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If you want to get in touch, our e-mail address is:

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start your message with the letters "WD". Or join the discussion on

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Twitter. Coming up: in our final interview with the big six energy

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companies, Mata puts your questions to Neil Clitheroe, the CEO of

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ScottishPower. There are many great shames in the

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world. It's a shame that Lionel Messi wasn't born in England, and it

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is a shame that Blue and Steps have reformed, but The Smiths won't.

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Please do! There is one great shame that is greater than all the other

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great shames put together, and this is this: that we can't know the

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stuff we find out about our rogues after broadcast the show before we

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broadcast the show. Tonight, we're going to try to make amends.

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Hello, and welcome to Rogue Traders. Yes, even though we publicly name

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and shame the dodgy Daves, Dereks and Deirdres of the world in this

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programme, there is no guarantee their wrong doing will stop. Once

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our credits stop, we rely on you lot to inform us what the bad guys do

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next. Sometimes what you tell us is so interesting, we just can't keep

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it to ourselves. We're going to share with you what

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we've learned about some of our rogues since we first told their

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story. We're taking a trip down memory lane. Then we are turning

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right, third exit, at the roundabout of dodgy dealing, and after a mile

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and a half, we will arrive at the car park of come uppance. So, back

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to 2011 we go when we investigated a company called Head Exchange Ltd

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based in Richmond, North Yorkshire, run by Chris Whyatt and Katherine

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Hardwick. Their business was selling and fitting reconditioned engines.

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One problem: you couldn't trust them. They sold one to William but

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it didn't work, so he sent it back and asked for it to be swapped for

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one that did. Fair enough. He promised me a new engine within four

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days. Four days arrived, no engine. Week and a half, no engine. Fourth

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week, I said, "What's happening to this his engine?" "Well, it was sent

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out and it got lost." Well, the engine never arrived and nor did a

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refund of William's cash so he took the company to court and won.

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However, when he tried to get his money back, he was told the company

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had folded and there was nothing he could do.

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Soon enough, we started getting complaints about a company based

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just half a mile down the road from Head Exchange, and called Complete

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Engine Solutions Ltd. Nicola paid them for a reconditioned engine but

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when her local garage tried to fit it, they found a shocking discovery.

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The engine didn't work, it had to come out, be taken to pieces, and

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then they found it was my original engine. We wanted to find out if

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Chris and Katherine were pulling the strings at this company too. Another

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man, Christopher Chiltern, was listed as the sole director, but, we

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decided to head under cover and see if we could link the three of them.

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The plan was to take in a 1.4 VW Golf and ask for a replacement

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reconditioned engine. Who do you think should greet us? Only

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Christopher Whyatt and Katherine Hardwick of course. We handed over

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?520. The mechanic who took out the old engine didn't fill us with

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confidence. I don't know what this engine is.

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After waiting 13 days, we got our car back, supposedly with a new

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reconditioned engine installed. What did expert John make of it? What you

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got fell far short of a reconditioned engine. It was an

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engine that was cobbled together to get it going again. Nothing more

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than that. In, the same engine we had taken in, with just a few new

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reconditioned bits. The bobgest of bodged jobs. We sent

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a me-shaped surprise up their sleeves. This is ridiculous. Don't

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start using he word "ridiculous". I mean, we're not happy about this. I

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am going to call rogue traders about this, this is absolutely ridiculous.

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Can you put me through to the rogue traders' team. Where are you right

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now? In Yorkshire at a garage with a problem. We will Extremely short

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moment as it happens, because I was parked just outside, which appeared

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to come as a bit of a shock to Chris Whyatt.

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BBC rogue traders. As you probably worked out, they weren't typical

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customers, they are part of our team. What you've actually promised

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us, what you sold us in the first place, and what we paid for was a

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reconditioned engine. What you did was took our engine out, you got it

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to a level where it was the bare minimum work had been done,

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serviceable to go out the door by fitting one new piston and a couple

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of other little things, none of it done very well, to be honest, but

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you've still charged us as if it were a reconditioned engine. We've

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given a guarantee. Do you know what happens when your customers

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typically come back to you with a problem? You to be them off. We have

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so many customers that are saying that's what's happened. At the end

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of the day, you can pay ?6,000 for an engine or pay ?2,000 for an

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engine. You can't expect both engines to do the same job. What you

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do is say one thing, promise one thing, charge for it, and then do

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something else. That's a rogue trader. That's what you are. I

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disagree with you entirely. Well, disagree he might, but having been

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named and shamed on the show, that, for the time being was the last we

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heard from Chris Whyatt, Katherine Hardwick and Complete Engine

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Solutions Ltd until you lot got stuck in. After our broadcast,

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complaints started to come in about another engine company, the Engine

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Clinic Ltd. Where do you think they were based? Go on, have a go! Yes.

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There! Mere coincidence? Perhaps. But then

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this wouldn't be much of an update show. So had they justified

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performed their old trick and set up under a different name? Again, there

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is no mention of either Chris nor Katherine, just Christopher

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Chiltern, the same man who was listed as the sole director of

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Complete Engine Solutions. We didn't have to go undercover to make a

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connection. A customer did it for us. We were contacted by an employee

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of the old company, and the two old cronies were the ones calling the

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shots. He doesn't want to be identified but he wants to tell us

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what his time was like for them. For this to work I don't need to be in

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silhouette, but I am showing solidarity.

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That's good! It was Chris and Katherine running the company. If

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you had problems, you went to see Chris, anything that came into the

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engine clinic, you would see them opening them, they would order

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parts, pay the bills, basically all authorisations went through those

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two. So, repeat offending rogues,

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rebranded engine companies, a whole heap of complaints, but finally,

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some good news: in July this year, trading standards took the company

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to court where the Engine Clinic and its listed director, Christopher

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Chiltern, were prosecuted for misleading customers and issued with

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a hefty fine. The company has now ceased trading. A result.

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So I will cease talking. Right after this bit. One half of

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our dodgy duo has been in touch. Katherine Hardwick denies she was in

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a position of authority at the engine clinic. She said she left

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last year and now works in a different industry, which is great

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news. But if that first story blew your

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whistle, the next one will leave you stunned.

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I want you to meet this fella. This is Chip, and he's an eight-year-old

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hairy Kholi cross poodle. Isn't he lovely?

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Anyone with a dog knows you pay anything in vets' fees if they are

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sick which is why a quarter of us have pet insurance, but the cost of

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premiums is rocketing. Chip is perfectly healthy and has no

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pre-existing medical conditions. If I wanted to insure the exact same

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dog 20 years ago, my premium would have been around ?40 a year. If I

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wanted to do it right now, it would cost me anywhere between ?300 and

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?500 a year. The idea is you get peace of mind. If only you start off

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by paying what seems a fair price, things won't necessarily stay that

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way. You can't put a price on companion

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MSP, but you can put a price on good health which is why so many of us

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turn to pet insurance. Here is how it's supposed to work:

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you pay a regular sum to the insurer and then they pick up the vet bills

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if anything should happen to your pet. But this reassurance can come

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at a significant cost. Although it doesn't always start off

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that way. Caron Jones took a lifetime policy with Green

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insurance. She felt her ?235 annual premium was worth it should Bo fall

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ill. Sadly, five months after signing up to the policy, he did

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just that. He was taken poorly in December 2011. He had

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gastrointestinal problems, with sickness and diarrhoea and kept in

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overnight twice at the vet's on a drip, and obviously huge vet bills

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because of it. Green Insurance paid out for the vet bills straightaway,

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but when it was time to renew the policy the following year, they

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shifted the goalposts dramatically. They raised Karen's premiums from

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?235 to a whopping ?1,854 a year, that's a rise of about 700 per cent.

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I expected an increase, but not to that extent. I just think it was

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very unfair. I felt they had increased the premium by that amount

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to get their money back. It made me very upset and angry. Green

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Insurance eventually agreed Karen would only have to pay ?1,236 a

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year, but that's still ?1,000 more before Bo got sick. Caron had little

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choice but to pay knowing it was unlikely another company would

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ensure him, which, frankly, doesn't seem fair. We were left in a

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position where we either went with them or didn't have insurance cover.

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Large increases because you've made a claim is one thing, but high

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prices even though your pet hasn't been ill is quite another.

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Mark Terry took out insurance for his golden retriever Baxter with

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Mass Mass. Two and a half years old, and with no ongoing medical

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conditions, Baxter is a perfectly healthy dog. So why, then, did his

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premium jump from ?712 in the second year to ?889 in the third? We were

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very shocked when this year's renewal came through and it had gone

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up another couple of hundred pounds, effectively. We were really

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disappointed because we hadn't claimed. What made this harder to

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take was that had mark been a new customer, the same company would

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have given him a much cheaper deal. We went online and tried Marks

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Spencer as a new customer and found that it was coming in at ?2666 which

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actually was a lot cheaper than it was during our first year, so we

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ended up going with a new policy from Marks Spencer at ?266. The

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seemingly arbitrary rises in premiums have become a fixture of

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the pet insurance industry. Prices are getting so high, many are having

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to forego insurance completely. The danger with that is that our clients

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won't have the safety net there and therefore be faced with large bills

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they may not be able to afford, and that means therefore that our pets

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might not get the treatment you would hope they would. It makes me

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feel very angry. As a veterinary surgeon, we have a policy like most

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surgeries, playing fair with the insurance company, and we expect

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them to play fair and with us. Insurance comes at a cost, but if

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you decide to pay the premiums, at least you get a good service -

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right? Not always. If you pay your ever-increasing premiums, there's no

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guarantee your sinisterur will keep their side of the bargain. In

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February, Pet Plan insurance customer found a lump on her dog's

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head. The vet found five more lumps. The decision was made to remove all

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six as soon as possible. It was all done in one procedure that took a

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couple of hours, and the whole thing came to about just in excess of

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?1,000, which we forwarded to the insurance company.

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As it was a single operation, Ellen anticipated she would only have to

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pay one single excess charge. Pet Plan had another idea. After the

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operation, it was discovered that some of the lumps were of different

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types, and the company used that to their advantage. Pet Plan decided to

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apply an excess per the type of lump that was found. The combined excess

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charges came to ?575, meaning that, on top of her premiums, Ellen would

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be paying for more than half the cost of the operation herself. After

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she complained, Pet Plan agreed to reduce her excess bill to ?230, but

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it was still more than double what she expected to pay. I feel I don't

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have much choice. I am with Pet Plan, and I just don't think it is

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going to be any better with any other provider.

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How do insurers get away with this? They know you have no option. Pay

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the premiums or pay the potentially hefty vet bills.

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And more and more people are being caught out. Complaints to the

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financial ombudsman about pet insurance are up by 50 per cent this

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year, and in 60 per cent of all cases, they find in the customer's

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favour. Customers loyally pay their premium, so if their pet falls ill,

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that he will be looked after. Is it really too much to ask for the pet

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insurers to be equally loyal and play fair? Dr Dolittle, do you have

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some responses? I do have some, but I've forgotten them, so I am going

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to need Chip's help. Go and get the responses, Chip! He tends to go with

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the treats rather than strict shouting. All you men do! Exactly!

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Bring us the responses! Goodlad! Well done! Sit!

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Sit! Stay! Chip! You had better stay because she gets angry!

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Green Insurance says Karen's premiums went up because of how much

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they had paid out for Bo's illness. They blamed advances in technology.

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Now, Marks Spencer say that the rise in their premium was down to

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vet's bills going up because he was no longerle legible for a new

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customer discount. He adds any previous conditions or claims for

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the animal may be excluded. Pet Plan apologised to Ellen. It acknowledges

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the lumps were caused by two conditions, not five, and that she

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should only have been billed for two excess charges. It says it will be

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speaking to her directly to resolve the matter and will be reviewing its

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complaints procedures as a result. What I love was when ocedures as a

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result. What I love was when you said "sit" and "stay". Why has the

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dog left you? All the five people, everyone sat and stayed, didn't

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they! Next, energy. The start of the

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series, three of the big six suppliers agreed to be interviewed

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and answered viewers' questions about the alarming rise in the cost

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of gas and electricity. We've seen what E.ON and SSE have to say,

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roughly that price increases are not their fault, they only control a

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small portion of the bill and the market is dependent on wholesale

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costs. Tonight, it's the turn of ScottishPower.

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Two weeks after announcing their 8.6 price rise, I travelled to Fife to

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talk to ScottishPower CEO Neil Clitheroe.

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Energy companies were privatised to create competition and ultimately

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give customers the opportunity to choose the cheapest company. Please

:27:06.:27:11.

explain why there is no competition. Every energy company is impacted by

:27:12.:27:22.

the costs of distribution costs and levees. That's something that occurs

:27:23.:27:25.

in every industry. But the reality is that you control a lot of that

:27:26.:27:31.

chain. You are generators. You operate networks, you're part of

:27:32.:27:35.

distribution, you're also retail, so you're not just the head of the dog,

:27:36.:27:39.

you're the tail as well. I think if you dig deeper into what the bill is

:27:40.:27:44.

made up and understand the drivers for that, so, for example, the

:27:45.:27:48.

networks cost that you talked about earlier, 21 per cent of the bill is

:27:49.:27:52.

made up of that. Hang on, you run the network. We do, and that is a

:27:53.:27:57.

fully regulated return based on the amount we invest by Ofgem. We don't

:27:58.:28:00.

set revenue. You make huge profits from your network. We invest a huge

:28:01.:28:05.

amount as well. So in our networks business, we are investing close to

:28:06.:28:10.

?1 billion a year, making profit of ?600 million a year. Why are you

:28:11.:28:15.

secretive about your dealings on the wholesale market. One of your

:28:16.:28:18.

smaller competitors last week said he doesn't recognise the wholesale

:28:19.:28:22.

market prices that you routinely hide behind. Why is that? What have

:28:23.:28:27.

you got to hide? We've nothing to hide. We publish our what are called

:28:28.:28:36.

are called segmental accounts, and ScottishPower this year put all of

:28:37.:28:40.

it in, our generation business in, our renewables in, and we put our

:28:41.:28:45.

wholesale business in, so it is there as a line very clear for

:28:46.:28:49.

everyone to see. We give as much information as we can in that side.

:28:50.:28:56.

However, do I need to work hard to explain what the gas and and

:28:57.:29:03.

electricity wholesale prices are in the country? I do. We tried to do

:29:04.:29:07.

that. I tried to do it at the select committee last week when I walked

:29:08.:29:10.

through line-by-line why we had moved our prices, and actually went

:29:11.:29:13.

right into the depth of that, and that is something that I just need

:29:14.:29:17.

to continue to do. Once your price rises have been

:29:18.:29:22.

incorporated, the average ScottishPower dual fuel bill will be

:29:23.:29:28.

5.5 per cent of average earnings. How much did you earn last year,

:29:29.:29:31.

including your bonus? I think in terms of what I earn, that's between

:29:32.:29:36.

myself and our HR director. There is a part of your income that's linked

:29:37.:29:39.

to profitable. Why not give up that part of your bonus and actually say

:29:40.:29:44.

what I will do is change it, and I will have a bonus based on the

:29:45.:29:47.

number of people who are in fuel poverty on my watch? Effectively,

:29:48.:29:52.

that's what I have. I have - it's not directly related to that, but,

:29:53.:30:00.

like any company, we get - we get bonus, remuneration based on a set

:30:01.:30:05.

of criteria, and one of them is - Profitability. To do with

:30:06.:30:10.

satisfaction that we have. One of them is the profitability. Money

:30:11.:30:18.

based on profits, yet you have to make a decision about profits which

:30:19.:30:22.

affect people's well being. While that is there I would suggest you're

:30:23.:30:25.

one of the worst people in the country to be setting the price. If

:30:26.:30:28.

I set the price wrong, then people will look at ScottishPower and say

:30:29.:30:33.

that's not a company that I want to join. That's not a company I want to

:30:34.:30:38.

be associated with. If you had to choose between keeping your loved

:30:39.:30:44.

one warm and comfortable, or feeding them good-quality home-wounding

:30:45.:30:47.

meals, whi one would you choose. Heat or eat? Nobody has to make that

:30:48.:30:51.

choice. Somebody clearly is, and then asking you personally - I would

:30:52.:30:56.

- What would you do? I would say to that customer, please, please,

:30:57.:31:00.

please call us, because we can help. We can get people on to cheaper

:31:01.:31:04.

tariffs. We offer debt payment breaks. Is there more that I can do

:31:05.:31:08.

to help these people? You're right, there is. You could give up your

:31:09.:31:12.

bonus, that profitability-related part of your bonus and then people

:31:13.:31:16.

would really believe you. I know I come back to this, but I earn - you

:31:17.:31:23.

know, I - customer satisfaction, fuel poverty, you know, my

:31:24.:31:27.

employees, the 5,000 people work for me. What is their satisfaction like?

:31:28.:31:31.

I get paid on all these things. And I - you know, our company makes

:31:32.:31:36.

money to invest. And that's what we do with it. What are you doing to

:31:37.:31:42.

bring down the cost of domestic energy to ensure actual poverty

:31:43.:31:45.

becomes a think of the past. Can you give me a date that is going to

:31:46.:31:48.

happen because of your investments? It is a really good question,

:31:49.:31:52.

actually. I think it's difficult to given that date because you're

:31:53.:31:56.

looking at these three things of affordable bills, decar Bonnising

:31:57.:32:03.

the -- decarbonising the economy and making sure we keeps the lights on

:32:04.:32:07.

and power the nation. The department of energy have been very clear in

:32:08.:32:10.

terms of the investment that the UK needs and the investment that we

:32:11.:32:14.

need to bring through to try and meet these three things. How will

:32:15.:32:18.

that feed through to customers' bills. It's very difficult to say -

:32:19.:32:21.

very difficult to say. Thank you very much. Thank you. Where are we

:32:22.:32:27.

now? Four of the big six have raised their prices by between eight and

:32:28.:32:30.

ten per cent, M Clitheroe of ScottishPower doesn't think he

:32:31.:32:34.

should give up his bonus. However, Sam laid law, boss of British Gas

:32:35.:32:38.

announced this week he will be giving up his, up to ?2 million. He

:32:39.:32:43.

said he acknowledges there is a lack of trust and transparency - I'll

:32:44.:32:47.

say. Last week on Watchdog, the energy secretary admitted he has no

:32:48.:32:50.

idea of the true pricing structure of the fuel companies, and announced

:32:51.:32:54.

a competition review, in other words an audit. John Major has suggested a

:32:55.:32:59.

windfall tax to the energy companies; Labour said Miliband has

:33:00.:33:04.

said he will freeze energy prices if he gets into power. There's nothing

:33:05.:33:07.

to stop higher bills in the meantime. The earliest we can hope

:33:08.:33:12.

any change is sometime next year when the competition review is

:33:13.:33:15.

complete. At the moment, switching can help to

:33:16.:33:19.

beat price rises. Watchdog can also offer a simple guide on how to save

:33:20.:33:25.

another ?250 on your annual bill with minimal time and effort.

:33:26.:33:30.

A typical family home with typically high energy bills, but big savings

:33:31.:33:33.

could be made with a few simple tricks.

:33:34.:33:37.

Energy expert Scott has worked out how much the misuse of appliances

:33:38.:33:42.

cost us in a year, and where we could make savings. Most people will

:33:43.:33:45.

think there's lots of sacrifices to make. There are lots of easy little

:33:46.:33:49.

ways we can save money in and energy. In the kitchen, Scott has

:33:50.:33:53.

found some savings for you. Using one hob instead of two, using a

:33:54.:33:58.

steamer for your vegetables, we save ?10. Using the microwave instead of

:33:59.:34:04.

the oven is another ?26 saving, using a kettle, filling it with one

:34:05.:34:09.

cup of water rather than filling it up is another ?8 saving. To that,

:34:10.:34:13.

already ?44 saved. What about elsewhere in the house? Most rooms

:34:14.:34:17.

in the house are wasting energy. What is key is knowing where to

:34:18.:34:22.

look. Swap your light bulbs to these new LED ones and you could save ?3

:34:23.:34:29.

per bulb, and that is ?60 per year inage average house. TVs, phone

:34:30.:34:35.

chargers, set-top boxes and routers, these vampire appliances suck your

:34:36.:34:39.

energy and increase your bills. Turn these off when you're not using them

:34:40.:34:44.

and you will save ?50. We've got a tip for you with the washing. Ensure

:34:45.:34:50.

it is a full load. Turn it down to 30 degrees. That's another ?13

:34:51.:34:57.

saving. The total is now ?167. On to your heating: this is the area

:34:58.:35:00.

people fear the most where it is where you can save the most without

:35:01.:35:05.

having to go cold. Get a draft excluder to the front and back

:35:06.:35:08.

doors, closing all doors around the house and making sure there's no

:35:09.:35:12.

drafts makes it possible to turn a thermostat down by that one degree

:35:13.:35:18.

saving a huge ?65 a year. Finally, radiators. Reflective radiator

:35:19.:35:24.

panels increase heat and reduce energy bills by ?5. Bleeding them

:35:25.:35:29.

will save you ?10. So, Scott, what is the total? ?247

:35:30.:35:36.

saved. You barely notice. It just requires a little bit of thought.

:35:37.:35:39.

Plenty of tips there. If you want to watch it again, go to our website.

:35:40.:35:51.

Website. Matt Back in time, going to Abbey Manor Cars Ltd of Yeovil - not

:35:52.:35:57.

to be confused with other abbeys of different names.

:35:58.:36:01.

Some of you will be too young to remember, but, for me, it feels like

:36:02.:36:10.

just Yes, 2007, do you remember? Gordon

:36:11.:36:16.

Brown had just come into power knowing that it would be beginning

:36:17.:36:20.

of a long and illustrious reign because, after all, the economy was

:36:21.:36:23.

going from strength to strength. Meanwhile, in Yeovil, a business

:36:24.:36:27.

called Abbey Manor Cars Ltd was living out its own particular fancy.

:36:28.:36:33.

The company was run by Peter Firth and Gerry White. They sold and hired

:36:34.:36:36.

second-hand vehicles. The only problem was we had heard the cars

:36:37.:36:40.

were so dangerous they deserved to be scrapped.

:36:41.:36:45.

As our investigation began, I went to meet one of their unsatisfied

:36:46.:36:49.

customers, Larry Chapman from Dorset. He had paid Peter Firth and

:36:50.:36:54.

Gerry White over ?1,000 for a motor, but there were issues from the first

:36:55.:36:59.

day. What were the problems when you bought the car? The driver's window

:37:00.:37:02.

kept on pulling down, the steering was a bit iffy. It was any amount of

:37:03.:37:07.

faults. Basically a heap on wheels. What was their attitude like?

:37:08.:37:12.

Anything but helpful. They basically always making excuses, either the

:37:13.:37:16.

mechanic was sick, or in Spain, or they couldn't do it, they're waiting

:37:17.:37:22.

for bits. When the engine packed up, Larry had had enough. He demanded

:37:23.:37:27.

Abbey Manor Cars come and take his car away to put right all the false.

:37:28.:37:31.

When he turned up at the garage to collect it. He couldn't believe what

:37:32.:37:36.

he saw. The boot was open, all the doors were open, my glove

:37:37.:37:40.

compartment was open. They, or someone had stolen everything that

:37:41.:37:47.

was in the boot, all my tools. They just didn't want us to know. It was

:37:48.:37:51.

time for us to get the experience for ourselves. We went to buy the

:37:52.:37:55.

one that looked to be in bad condition. This one? ?500 later, and

:37:56.:38:03.

we had ourselves a Ford Mondeo. It's not like the one in the advert.

:38:04.:38:08.

Martin, dipstick and hand. What do we have here? It's a death trap.

:38:09.:38:13.

There is no lining left on the brake pads. They're metal to meetings. The

:38:14.:38:17.

clutch has totally gone. The seat belts don't unlock properly. If the

:38:18.:38:21.

car was upside-down and a ditch, the driver and passenger would be struck

:38:22.:38:24.

in there. It sounds as though this car shouldn't be driven anywhere. It

:38:25.:38:28.

is far too dangerous. I wouldn't drive it 100 yards. The car was in

:38:29.:38:34.

such bad condition that selling it to us was a criminal offence.

:38:35.:38:37.

That was the sales side of the company. Next we decided to test out

:38:38.:38:42.

the hire car service. They were offering such good deals,

:38:43.:38:47.

you see. ?15 to ?25 a day to hire a car. That kind of set the alarm

:38:48.:38:52.

bells ringing. We went in with two members of the team and out we came

:38:53.:38:55.

with a lovely bluey green Nissan. Cool colour!

:38:56.:39:01.

And a not at all grubby Ford Escort. Actually, that is grubby. What sort

:39:02.:39:05.

of state were they in? As reliable as Charlie Sheen as a free bar. We

:39:06.:39:11.

put them both through an MOT and they both failed. Both these cars

:39:12.:39:17.

have been hired out in an unroad worthy and dangerous condition. If

:39:18.:39:20.

you want a quality car, you don't spend 15 or 25 quid to hire it, do

:39:21.:39:24.

you? You don't have to be driving this car for it to kill you. It

:39:25.:39:28.

could be coming along the other side of the road at you. That's a good

:39:29.:39:31.

point. Thank you, Martin. Yes, and when we showed all three

:39:32.:39:37.

cars to VOA, responsible for vehicle safety, they said all three had to

:39:38.:39:40.

be taken off the road immediately. We wanted answers, so we put the

:39:41.:39:45.

cars on the back of a toe truck and returned them to Abbey Manor Cars.

:39:46.:39:51.

I also wanted the opportunity to confront the owners.

:39:52.:39:55.

I wanted to ask them about the state of the cars without giving the game

:39:56.:40:00.

away. After a little bit of make-up, I was eastern European mechanic

:40:01.:40:06.

Jimmy. Insee you a little later. Goodbye.

:40:07.:40:10.

My disguise meant I could go undercover with the team as we

:40:11.:40:13.

complained about the condition of our cars. Look who came out to talk

:40:14.:40:19.

to us: Bosman Pete Firth. We brought the hire car back, my mate is a

:40:20.:40:24.

mechanic, he had a look at it and he said loads of things are gone with

:40:25.:40:33.

it. Eight If you're a mechanic, mend it.

:40:34.:40:40.

Go Go back to your country. We don't do new cars. It's not safe. Well, I

:40:41.:40:45.

wasn't going to get answers as Jimmy. Cue the cameras, and the real

:40:46.:40:52.

me. Matt from BBC Rogue Traders. It

:40:53.:40:55.

seems everything we have had from out of here is totally unroad

:40:56.:40:59.

worthy. You will be familiar with these, these are VOSA road

:41:00.:41:07.

worthiness prohibition notice. You see, that means they shouldn't be on

:41:08.:41:12.

the road at all. That's why we keeled it up the drive. It's no no

:41:13.:41:16.

wonder that your customers are not very happy with what they either

:41:17.:41:20.

rent or buy from you from this place? I will pack up trading, then.

:41:21.:41:26.

When can you do it? Can you go out of business tomorrow? I can't do it

:41:27.:41:31.

tomorrow, you idiot. You've got a yard full of cars. If you could do

:41:32.:41:35.

it as soon as possible. I will do it as soon as possible. After you've

:41:36.:41:38.

handed the money back to the people. I will not be here tomorrow. Where

:41:39.:41:43.

will you be? Retire, it is very simple. Shake me by the hand because

:41:44.:41:48.

that's the best news I've heard all day. I am packing up. Thank you very

:41:49.:41:52.

much. Excellent result. But despite such

:41:53.:41:58.

encouraging promises from Pete Firth, this wasn't to be the end of

:41:59.:42:02.

the story, nor was it going to be the last time that Abbey Manor Cars

:42:03.:42:05.

were to receive an unannounced visit from a team armed with cam values. A

:42:06.:42:12.

warrant issued by the Crown Court to search these premises. It turned out

:42:13.:42:17.

what was going on was far more serious and sinister than we had

:42:18.:42:20.

ever imagined. It turned out it wasn't just us investigating Abbey

:42:21.:42:24.

Manor Cars Ltd. Trading standards and the police were also on their

:42:25.:42:28.

trail, and that's where the baseball bat, balaclava and Taser comes in.

:42:29.:42:35.

Intrigued? Rogue traders, meet Crimewatch in about ten minutes. Are

:42:36.:42:38.

you fed up with postal deliveries? This might get your blood boiling. I

:42:39.:42:43.

am going to show you a bit of CCTV footage captured by Watchdog viewer

:42:44.:42:47.

Margaret Border on her home security cameras. She was expecting a package

:42:48.:42:54.

from M and was told it would be delivered by City Link. The delivery

:42:55.:42:57.

man has arrived, he's outside the door, and this happens. Here he

:42:58.:43:02.

comes. Will he knock on the door? No. That is shocking. He just chucks

:43:03.:43:07.

it on the floor and walks away. What was in the parcel? Luckily, it

:43:08.:43:12.

wasn't clothes. Let's take another look. I should stay it's nothing

:43:13.:43:17.

fragile, just come clothes that Margaret was waiting for. Just

:43:18.:43:21.

thrown there. If it was clothes, he could probably have put it in the

:43:22.:43:26.

letter-box. But the big question in, was she in? The delivery man will

:43:27.:43:29.

never know because he didn't knock on the door. I can tell you that she

:43:30.:43:33.

wasn't, and you probably saw on the clock it was about ten-to ten in the

:43:34.:43:38.

morning and Margaret didn't get home in the seven o'clock that night, so

:43:39.:43:41.

the parcel was there for about nine hours.

:43:42.:43:50.

What did they say? They thanked us for bringing it to their attention,

:43:51.:43:54.

and written an apology to Margaret. Hopefully delivered by someone else.

:43:55.:44:00.

We've received so many delivery company grumbles, here is you know

:44:01.:44:03.

who. I am a very patient man. Honestly. I

:44:04.:44:08.

am. I wait around all day to see one of

:44:09.:44:13.

nature's most beautiful specimens is a joy.

:44:14.:44:17.

There's a wagtail. But there's one thing I can't stand

:44:18.:44:25.

waiting for, and that is the post. That, unfortunately, is what I have

:44:26.:44:32.

ahead of me today: a long old wait. You see, I am expecting a parcel.

:44:33.:44:37.

It's a gift. It's a surprise. No idea what it is, but I must admit

:44:38.:44:42.

I am relatively excited. But, and there is a big but, I am told it's

:44:43.:44:47.

going to come sometime between 8.00 am and 6.00 pm.

:44:48.:44:52.

Thanks for narrowing that down. Why can't these delivery companies

:44:53.:44:57.

just be more specific? If some of them, like UK Mail or DPD can give

:44:58.:45:03.

you an hour window that he will deliver in, why can't everyone else?

:45:04.:45:07.

Better settle in for the long haul, I suppose.

:45:08.:45:27.

What? It's only ten o'clock. I am so bored! What is more annoying, is

:45:28.:45:38.

that even if you are waiting in all day, your delivery might not

:45:39.:45:41.

actually arrive! I ordered a satellite dish online,

:45:42.:45:46.

and the seller had chosen to use Yodel as the delivery agent. The

:45:47.:45:49.

parcel didn't turn up on the delivery day. I waited around,

:45:50.:45:54.

nobody turned up. Day two, no parcel arrived. Day three, day four - no

:45:55.:45:58.

parcel arrived. It took seven days for the parcel to be delivered, but

:45:59.:46:03.

that was only after numerous phone calls in excess of 20 phone calls,

:46:04.:46:07.

to the Yodel support centre, and an official complaint that I raised

:46:08.:46:12.

with them. You could finish War and Peace in that time. I am only on

:46:13.:46:22.

page two. It's an epic enteal. Tale. It was one man's battle against the

:46:23.:46:26.

Royal Mail, because problems don't just occur when you're waiting for

:46:27.:46:29.

your post, it can be a right pain trying to send stuff too.

:46:30.:46:36.

Roy was trying to post letters and parcels to his daughter. She lives

:46:37.:46:40.

in High Wycombe, Western Australia. Over here, see, on the other side of

:46:41.:46:43.

the world. But, yes, you guessed it, the Royal

:46:44.:46:49.

Mail kept sending them to High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, way back

:46:50.:46:54.

over here! This didn't just happen once, oh,

:46:55.:46:58.

no. This happens more than 30 times over a period of eight years.

:46:59.:47:03.

Sending a message in a bottle to Australia would have been more

:47:04.:47:07.

reliable. Yes, posting letters abroad can be

:47:08.:47:13.

tricky. Don't get me started on what happens in this country. It is the

:47:14.:47:18.

charges, you see. They could be a little ad hoc, shall we say. Take

:47:19.:47:21.

Scotland. Some of the biggest delivery companies charge more to

:47:22.:47:25.

send things to certain parts of Scotland than anywhere else on

:47:26.:47:29.

mainland Britain. They say it's because these places are remote.

:47:30.:47:34.

Now, I know what you're thinking, it's just one or two houses in the

:47:35.:47:39.

middle of nowhere on the top of Ben Nevis. Get over it, Rick. But, no,

:47:40.:47:48.

it's not like that. For example, take Elgin, it's here, between two

:47:49.:47:51.

major cities, Inverness and Aberdeen. According to FedEx, it's

:47:52.:47:55.

remote, and therefore more expensive to deliver to.

:47:56.:48:02.

However, they say neighbouring Rothes just a few miles down the

:48:03.:48:07.

road is not remote. OK, but then DHL feel differently about it. They

:48:08.:48:14.

reckon Rothes is remote, but Elgin is not? Confused? It is madness.

:48:15.:48:19.

We're not talking small change here. That's six miles could cost you an

:48:20.:48:25.

extra ?16 per package. Speaking of packages, where on earth

:48:26.:48:30.

is mine? We didn't film that bit. That's

:48:31.:48:37.

actually a sunset across Amman in Jordan.

:48:38.:48:42.

You get the idea. It's getting on. You get the idea. It's getting on.

:48:43.:48:45.

(doorbell rings). Hang on. Is that it! Finally, my

:48:46.:48:52.

present! No more waiting for me today! Thank you! Yes!

:48:53.:49:07.

Lessons in patience for me! No thanks!

:49:08.:49:18.

Don't need them! Responses from the companies are on

:49:19.:49:22.

our website. Here are a few more stories. There

:49:23.:49:28.

were more grim masses than grins at Alton Towers after wheels broke off

:49:29.:49:34.

a ride hitting passengers. The ?18 million ride has had a chequered

:49:35.:49:39.

history as we reported back in May. Its opening was delayed because of

:49:40.:49:43.

teething problems. Then in July, people had to be rescued after a

:49:44.:49:46.

piece of track fell off before technical issues forced its closure

:49:47.:49:50.

again in August. The latest mishap occurred on Saturday when four

:49:51.:49:56.

plastic guide wheels broke off mid-ride hitting four people in the

:49:57.:49:59.

front carriage. One passenger commented that he thought it was a

:50:00.:50:03.

three D effect until the part struck him in the face.

:50:04.:50:08.

Five days on, and with an investigation ongoing, the ride

:50:09.:50:10.

remains closed. Some would say more Fawlty Towers

:50:11.:50:21.

than Alton Towers. Mary Berry has been criticised by

:50:22.:50:25.

doctors after it was revealed some of her own-brand salad dressing had

:50:26.:50:33.

three times more sugar than cola. Her original salad dressing is a

:50:34.:50:37.

whopping 27 per cent, and it doesn't get any better with her light

:50:38.:50:40.

version. It may have less fat but the sugar levels are exactly the

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same. We compared this with 20 other rival salad dressings, and the

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closest we could find was Tesco honey and mustard dressing wit 18.

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Nine per cent. Her spokesperson told us you should only use a small

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amount per serving as it's a dressing, not a drink.

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Watch out if you're thinking of buying a designer or important poppy

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for Remembrance Day. These sparkly poppies have become a must-have

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fashion, but people have been telling us they don't realise some

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shops are passing on very little of the price to the Royal British

:51:18.:51:27.

Legion, so, to clarify. This costs podolskyy five yet only ?1.50 is

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donated to the charity. This costing ?12 only ?3. 3.60 will

:51:34.:51:41.

be passed. From Chamila.com, only ?4.50 of that

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ends up to the Poppy Appeal, so if you want to make sure 100 per cent

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of your money is going to the Royal British Legion, opt for a good

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old-fashioned paper job. We will tell you the story off the

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story on Rogue Traders, the bits we couldn't include in the original

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programme because we didn't know them yet. As stories go, this one

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took a far more serious twist. When we confronted Abbey Manor Cars

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Ltd of Yeovil back in 2007 for selling and hiring out illegal

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unroad worthy vehicles, Peter Firth promised us he would shut up shop.

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Come back tomorrow, and I will not be here. When we went back to check

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on their progress a month later, the yard was chock-full of cars.

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Although Peter was nowhere to be seen, his partner in crime came out

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to talk. Hello, Gerry, how are you? Good,

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thanks. We are confused because, last time I was here, I had a chat

:52:42.:52:46.

to Pete, and he assured us that you would be out much business, you

:52:47.:52:49.

would have closed up. What, within a matter of a week? A month, it was,

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because he actually said a month. Give me a month, and this will be

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empty. Well, as you can see it's not empty. No. It doesn't earn a vast

:52:57.:53:01.

amount of profit. Why are you trying to put someone like that out of

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business. Because the three vehicles that we looked at were really

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dangerous. So many, many customers that are completely happy with what

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they have had. Three cars we took away. Three cars. Yes. All three of

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those cars were unroad worth any when -- unroadworthy when supplied

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to us. I disagree with that. We will be more vigilant. I can't tell you

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more than that. Bye-bye. And so that was 2007. But, fast forward to

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February this year when our old friends Peter Firth and Gerry White

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made another appearance on our screens. This time, though, they

:53:39.:53:42.

were making headlines on the local news.

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I've got a copy of it here in my collection. I am quite the

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conoisseur, you know. But only if it is recorded on VHS, I am like that,

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you see, a traditionaliest. Look! Points West from February earlier

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this year. You would be amazed how few people

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accept my invitations to film night! Peter Firth is confronted on camera

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in 2007 by Rowing Traders. It's me! What are the chances of that! They

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should have explained I was wearing a disguise.

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This This footage was film 20 20ten when it was time for the boys in

:54:26.:54:32.

blue to pay a visit. What this they done to warrant the attention of the

:54:33.:54:39.

constabulary? Stephen is from Scam Busters which ran the investigation

:54:40.:54:44.

alongside the police. What did you find out about the way Peter and

:54:45.:54:49.

Gerald were dealing with their customers? They were running the

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equivalent of a loan-shark business in the car business. The customers

:54:53.:54:56.

seemed to be people who didn't have a lot of money to spend on a car,

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and they offered to sell them cheap cars with a small deposit, say ?200,

:55:00.:55:05.

and then ?100 a month. It was a sort of credit deal, but they are

:55:06.:55:08.

unlicensed, there was no documentation, nothing on paper. So

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in actual fact, you don't own the car at all because you never

:55:13.:55:16.

received the documents? That's absolutely right. And it seems Firth

:55:17.:55:20.

and White thought not handing over the documents gave them carte

:55:21.:55:24.

blanche to reclaim the cars whenever they wanted. If there was any

:55:25.:55:27.

suggestion that people were struggling to pay, often for no good

:55:28.:55:31.

reason at all, they simply found the car taken back.

:55:32.:55:36.

Mary brought two vehicles from them and they took both away from her,

:55:37.:55:39.

again, without her knowledge, a van she had taken in to be fixed, and a

:55:40.:55:44.

Ford galaxy taken from her drive at home. We were left basically ?4

:55:45.:55:50.

thousand-plus-out of pocket, no plan, no car, no way of getting

:55:51.:55:56.

around. Mary's complaint along with others led to a raid on their

:55:57.:56:01.

premises. This was the inside of Peter Firth's van. Those are the

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keys for the vehicles sold or out for hire. They kept a key, and they

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could drive what you thought was your car away at any time? And they

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did. But Peter Firth didn't just have

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keys in his van. He was carrying items that were far more worrying.

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Baseball bat, for example, and a 12(d) inch knife. A ball chav -- and

:56:22.:56:29.

a 12-inch knife. A couple of mobile phones there. Stun guns and

:56:30.:56:35.

firearms. They're stun guns disguised as mobile phones. That is

:56:36.:56:38.

the sort of thing that you would jab into somebody's leg, make them very

:56:39.:56:42.

unhappy that they ever met you. So I believe. It's not your typical car

:56:43.:56:46.

dealer's kit. I would not not. I would think this must be seen as

:56:47.:56:52.

exceptingal. The judge did describe these two as rogue car dealers, and

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I think that's undoubtedly what we are talking about. We don't know

:56:56.:56:58.

exactly what they used their weapons for, but you can guess their

:56:59.:57:02.

intentions probably weren't very nice. In the end. Our boys got their

:57:03.:57:09.

day in court. Peter Firth got at that three-year sentence for firearm

:57:10.:57:13.

offences and for engaging in activity without a consumer credit

:57:14.:57:18.

licence. Gerald Gerald white White got 12

:57:19.:57:24.

months,six for having no credit licence and six for fraud charges.

:57:25.:57:27.

That's great news. Nothing makes me happier than finding out what the

:57:28.:57:32.

rogues have been up to since we made the programme. It's all thanks to

:57:33.:57:35.

you, your tip-offs. We wouldn't know about it otherwise. Off you go, tell

:57:36.:57:39.

us what you know, and we will do what we do best.

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That's how you fete and touch, yes? -- that's how you get in touch.

:57:44.:57:50.

You're still on the sofa! Come on. That's just a toilet!

:57:51.:57:57.

I got out of there eventually! Anyway, it's thanks to you and your

:57:58.:58:02.

vigilance that we can put Chris Whyatt, Katheri Hardwick, Peter

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Firth and Gerry White right back where they belong - in our rogues'

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gallery. Watchdog is back in the spring, so keep your stories coming

:58:16.:58:19.

in. Until then from all of us, good night.

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