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Surely enough is enough for the Vauxhall Zafira.

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After our story last week we've heard more shocking reports

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One caught fire outside a school and one man

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and his daughter were trapped in their car as the fire raged.

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They were lucky to escape with their lives.

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Isn't that enough for Vauxhall to issue a product-wide recall? So,

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have they? Find out with us right now.

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We're live for the next hour, fighting for your rights.

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Tonight, with Hallowe'en just around the corner,

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there's still huge confusion over the safety of children's costumes.

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We've got what you need to know to keep

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Also, in the wake of the TalkTalk cyber attack, reports of cold caller

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scammers using the stolen infomation to con you out of money.

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We've recorded a scam artist who thinks he's found another victim.

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I just want to have a proper chat with

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The bizarre mascot of the budget chain of gyms Xercise4Less.

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Membership might be cheap, but it ended up costing these

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And our secondhand car rogues - Derby Cars.

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Not according to our expert and our own troupe of strong men...

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There's nothing wrong with their body work.

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I'm sure there's something I meant to do. Go and ask for your money

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back, Sir. We need our money back. We need to inspect the car though.

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We need our money back. I'd like to inspect it.

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But first, a huge response to our story about the Vauxhall Zafira, the

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family car which you've told us can burst into flames without warning.

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There are 220,000 of them on the road right now.

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And it turns out the cases we featured last week were just the

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Last week we showed you how the problem started -

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And the first thing many of the drivers knew was when smoke

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After Vauxhall heard our evidence, they offered to inspect all cars

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for nothing, and gave several reasons why they thought

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Including dodgy repairs might have something to do with it.

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Staggeringly they admitted they already knew of 27 cases

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But despite all this, they still won't recall the cars

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This morning I conducted a Zafira recall of my own.

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We'll show you what happened when I took a burnt-out car to Vauxhall

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headquarters in a minute. But the question is,

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what will it take to make Vauxhall Oh, God! Moments after our report

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into the fires was shown more Zafira owners around the country started

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contacting Watchdog to tell us that the same had happened to them. So

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far Vauxhall have admitted that something is going wrong with the

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heating system found behind the glove box, but said a number

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happened as a result of poor repairs to the system or non-genuine parts

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were used. But what about Vauxhall parts or work carried out by

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Vauxhall's technicians? We've taken a road trip around the country to

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speak to some of the people who contacted us. We are now going to

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make our way to meet a Zafira owner who had a genuine part fitted into

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his car heating system by Vauxhall themselves. Jason from Plymouth had

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been perfectly happy with his 2006 Zafira B but when the car's heart

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stopped working he took it to his local Vauxhall dealer. They

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inspected the car and replaced the heat resistor, which controls the

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speed of the vehicle's internal fans. Everything seemed fine until

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last month when Jason was travelling in the car with his wife and four

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children. We were driving the car into town and all of a sudden there

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was a burning smell from the front of the car. The children in the back

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noticed the smell. My eldest son, who has asthma, started to panic. We

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pulled over and took the children out of the car as fast as we could.

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Vauxhall inspected the car and confirmed that the part they fitted

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had melted and damaged other opponents. Jason filmed evidence to

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gather evidence for himself. It shows the genuine part fitted by

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Vauxhall had indeed melted. I had my part fitted by the Vauxhall

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dealership, a genuine part, so it cannot just be due to non-genuine

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parts. Vauxhall says it is taking the issue seriously and is doing its

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best to get to the bottom of the problem. However, hours after they

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announced an investigation came the news that yet another Zafira B had

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gone up in flames. We just heard of a Vauxhall Zafira B caught fire

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outside a school. This happened only a few days ago but we've tracked

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down the owner, a liddy called Rebecca. I'm going to have a chat

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with her. Hi Rebecca, tell me what happened with your car. I opened the

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door to get in and saw smoke coming out. Within 30 seconds it was up in

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flames. It is scary, because you were parked near your school, you've

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got kids around. You could have been in the car while this happened. Has

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that preyed on your mind at all? Absolutely, I cannot get the images

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of the children being evacuated out of my mind. They were terrified. So

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far despite the evidence we've been gathering Vauxhall are refusing to

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recall the cars. Maybe they'll have a change of heart after hearing this

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next case. We are on our way to Swansea to meet up with Jason, who

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found himself and his three-year-old child trapped inside of his Zafira

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B. Hi Jason. Hi. Nice to meet you. Show me where this happened? It

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happened down by here. Talk me through exactly what happened? I was

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going to my parents' house and noticed a smell of burning a couple

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of minutes after the central locking locked. It pulled off towards here.

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I took my seat belts off my daughter, tried to get her out. The

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doors were locked. Couldn't get out at all. I was punching the glass to

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try to get out. How is your hand? It is bruised, and my knuckle should be

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there. That's after a week. Was there a sudden realisation where you

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thought, I'm not going to be able to get out here? At one point, yes.

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Well, with I had hold of my daughter's hand. At one point the

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smoke was quite thick in the car. We couldn't open the central locking.

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The electrics were not working. Terrifying. Really petrifying.

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Luckily a passer-by came to help and managed to open the doors from the

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outside of the car. Two fires in two weeks. One outside a packed school

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and the other where occupants were trapped inside. Some of you have

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also been telling us that two weeks is the length of time you've had to

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wait for your Zafira to be inspected. When Vauxhall told us

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last week that any affected owners should can't their local dealer many

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of you thought your car would be seen far sooner. I wanted to find

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out for myself just how long the wait really was, so I posed as a

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Zafira owner and called ten dealers across the country. I've just been

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cut off. Have you got any idea of time when potentially you could do

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that, how long the waiting list is? So you can't commit to a time but it

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could be between the next 14 days, two weeks? That was very vague. It

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was quite confusing really. I didn't get the feeling that the issue with

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my car was going to be sorted. There didn't seem to be any clarity on

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that. In total, four of the ten dealers simply couldn't give me a

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date. Five quoted between one two two weeks and only one could fit me

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in this week. Since our investigation into these fires was

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broadcast we've heard more terrifying accounts of Zafiras going

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up in flames, potential delays to safety inspections, and one case

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where a father and his child were trapped inside their smoke-filled

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car. There are currently more than 200,000 Zafira Bs on the road. At

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this stage no-one knows how many are affected, so what's Vauxhall going

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to do to stop this happening ever again? We asked for an interview in

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the studio but Vauxhall couldn't make that happen, so this morning I

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went to them and took Jason's burnt-out car with me. We are just

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waiting for the low load er to arrive. It has Jason's car on it.

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You know what's really terrifying about this? Obviously the fact that

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you've got the smashed windscreen and it is burnt-out, but inside you

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can see the child's seat. Jason's dar was sat in this car whilst it

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was filling up with smoke. Let's give these guys a call. It is

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Michelle Ackerley calling from BBC Watchdog, I'm stood outside Vauxhall

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headquarters now. We've got a camera crew... We've been spotted, indeed.

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We've got one of your Vauxhall Zafira owner's cars with us. We want

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someone to come down and answer questions. This is scary stuff. I've

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been speaking to people all week about this. So you are saying

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there's not one representative in your building that could come and

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speak to us about this? There's nobody... OK, it is a real shame you

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haven't got anyone that can come down. Thank you. Bye now. Well, he

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was very I rate at the situation. He said there's only three people in

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Vauxhall that are able to talk about the situation. There's no-one else

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around that can talk confidently about what's going on. So we weren't

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able to speak to anyone today but I'm going to deliver this letter to

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Vauxhall. It is from Jason and he's got questions, as many of you do.

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I'm going to deliver this by hand. Vauxhall has since told us it is

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drawing up plans for a recall in case it decides that it is needed,

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but it still doesn't know what's causing the fires. The company says

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it has had issues getting enough Zafira B resistors but is who

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working to increase production so it can clear the backlog. Oh 1,500

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customers' cars have been inspected, and Jason and Rebecca's cars will

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all be looked it. It advises concerned owners to contact

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Vauxhall. Lines will be open after the show.

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We will keep chasing Vauxhall and we want you to keep sending us

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anymore information on potentially dangerous Zafiras.

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We can only make progress on this story and others

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or go the website and click where it says 'send us your stories'.

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And if you've got something to say on any of the stories we're covering

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Use Twitter, Facebook or send an email.

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Have you got a pension pot that you can't get at?

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We'll have the experts with us that can help you.

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Have you had a phone scammer trying to trick you?

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Tonight you are in for a treat, as we turn the tables.

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As long as it gets me from A to B, I'm happy.

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Don't give me a car that's going to hurt or kill me.

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It's important not to ignore warning signs. They are there to help us

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change our behaviour. And avoid trouble. Here's someone you might

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recognise. Warning! Slippery roads ahead. Here's one a bit less common.

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Warning! A bull may head-butt your van. And warning! Stakes can bite

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your ankles. Quite specific that one. This sign warns of the use of

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punctuation ahead. And there's this sign...

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One place that looks like it is ignoring all its warning signs is

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Derby Car Centre in, you've guessed it, Derby. Good research, team. It

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is run by this guy, Mark Whitfield. He sells hundreds of used cars from

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this lot, but they aren't always great ones, as Tanya Watson found

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out. Earlier this year she part exchanged her car for a Chevrolet

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Matisse she bought on finance. I fell in love with it when I saw it.

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Did they talk about the condition of the car? They said it was in good

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nick. The brake was tapping back at me. Tan yahs was reassured it was

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nothing to worry about, so she agreed to buy the car for just under

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15 hundred quid. But there was something to worry about. Talk me

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through the problems you found when you picked it up. When I was driving

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home, the steering wheel was shaking like crazy and I was only doing 30

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miles per hour. My braking was still touchy. I thought, this isn't right.

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Tanya complained to Derby Car Centre and they agreed to take a look. But

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when she started driving it again there were other significant

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problems. My dashboard was lighting up all different flashing lights. It

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scared me. I pulled over, turned the engine off, turned it back on and

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the lights had gone. Then five mimes down the road it did it again. Tanya

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took the car to a dealership for a health check. The results were

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shocking as the video makes clear. They recommended ?1700 of repair

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work. Over ?500 of which was urgent. So, once again, it went back to

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Derby Car Centre for more work. When she finally got it back, Tanya

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took the car for a new MoT, guess what? It failed! So even after they

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have had the chance to put things right, it was still an MoT fail? I

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believe there was a couple of urgent things that was wrong with the car

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as well. I feel like they have conned me. I could have had anyone

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in that car and crashed it. It would have been my fault.

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Luckily for Tanya, the finances agreement was cancelled and she

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returned the car. You see Tanya bought her car earlier

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this year, by which time, Derby Car Centre had received warning signs

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that they needed to sort their act out.

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Warning signs like an unsettled county court judgment against them

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for over ?1,500. And in 2013, the Derby Telegraph reported that the

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trading standards had them down as one of the city's most complained

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about companies. I like that, a good technique, you think that something

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is the worst but you can't prove it, so you say it is one of the worst,

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which, let's face it, it could mean anything. However, they did have a

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point. You see, Derby Car Centre had had enough, the trading standards,

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they had had a massive 227 complaints about the Derby Car

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Centre. It is one of the most complained about companies featured

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on Rogue Traders. One of them... So many complaints, in fact, that they

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issued an enforcement order against the firm. In short, they had to not

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sell cars that didn't work, lie to their customers, or fail to put

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things right when they went wrong. Yes, so two big warning signs.

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Firstly, the local paper says that you are the most... One of the most

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complained about companies in town. And the law tells you to stop doing

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wrong things. Yet they still sold Tanya a car that was far from at its

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best. So, maybe they are not getting the

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hint? Time for an undercover stint! Yes, there's only one way to see

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what Derby Car's stock is like - and that's to buy one,

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drive it and inspect it. Foot on the clutch,

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we'll be back in touch - in 10. This week the news has been full

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of the online data theft from cyber It's clear that the stolen

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information is already being used It's not the first attack

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on our personal information In a minute we'll show you how to

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protect yourself and the information What do you think would happen

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if a phone scammer unwittingly It's a bad idea, ain't it? Terrible!

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Hello, you don't know me, my name is Ben.

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Come in. Sure, make yourself at home.

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Take a look in my drawers if you want. That's my personal paperwork,

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go through it, if you like. And while you are at it, here are the

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bank details and pass words. Obviously, you would never invite a

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criminal into your home to go through your belongings, however,

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one of the most common scams sees tens of thousands of us in the UK

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doing that. Only you are not giving criminal access to your home but the

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computer, where you keep all of your most valuable information.

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Susan Chunk from Liverpool, took a phone call from a man who claimed to

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be from Microsoft. He said that her computer urgently needed virus

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protection software. He was encystent, a little

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intimidating. He said that if I didn't go ahead, I would not be

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protected on the internet. He had Susan download software that

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let him log on and control her computer remotely.

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He said it would take a while. So maybe to leave the room and go

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downstairs and make a cup of tea and come back in an hour. That he would

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have everything done for me. Susan ended up paying the scammer

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?480. It was when her computer started to show error messages she

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realised she had been had. And Susan's is one of many.

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Dawn Maston from Northamptonshire, took a call from a man who claimed

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to work for Microsoft. He made me feel that the computer

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was already infected with a lot of viruses. I was horrified.

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I was charged ?231 for what I thought was a lifetime's virus

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protection. Dawn later became suspicious, so

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took her computer to a shop. They confirmed that nothing had been done

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to fix it. The person on the phone had scammed her.

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They took the money from my bank account twice. They tried to take

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the same amount from my credit card. Somehow, rooting through the files,

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on the computer, they were able to try to take the money from my credit

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card. And these criminals are so

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money-hungry, some will threaten violence. This is the message left

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on a Watchdog viewer's answering machine.

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I have your name, number, youred as are, you better be careful, OK?

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Goodbye. It goes to show the kind of

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aggressive and threatening behaviour that the criminals use to get their

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hands on your cash. We were keen to find out just what happened when you

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are targeted by these people and how persuasive they can be. To find out

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more about the high pressure techniques for ourselves, we set up

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a sting to see if we could scam the scammers.

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Working with technology expert, David McClelland, we called a number

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that had been linked to the scam in the past.

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I'm returning your call. You called my wife on Friday. Something about

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the computer? We are using a laptop that David set up hours earlier.

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Wiped of sensitive data and making sure that the sfaes is up-to-date.

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OK. Yes. How will you do that? Brilliant. Thank you. Over the

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phone, John, or whatever his real name is, gets us to download a

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programme that allows him to log on and take control of the computer

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remotely. I have put him on mute. He is

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loading up a Vent Viewer. It let's you see the logs for the Windows

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operating system. It is normal to see warnings and errors in there. It

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just happens. He will try to convince us that these are

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indickative of something naughty going on with the machine. John

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continues with the extreme scare tactics. Showing us IT messages that

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in reality are completely normal. Hard sell done, it is time to talk

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cash. He's quoting ?90 now but based on what happened to Dawn and others

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like her, who knows how much he will try to take.

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I'm going call you back in a second. I have to have a chat with my wife

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about this. My computer is going to crash?

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John's clearly getting rattled, so he brings in reenforcements.

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But when we don't hand over the card details, they try another tactic.

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As we watch on, they suddenly start deleting personal files off the

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computer. And with that they are gone.

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Incredible. I mean, he could have done untold

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damage to a proper family computer. To give them a chance to explain

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what they were playering at, I call them back. It is James O'Brien, I

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work for the Watchdog programme on BBC One. I wonder why you said you

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were licensed. That's it. Clearly, they didn't feel like

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chatting. Now, if you get a similar phone

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call, the advice is clear. You would not let a stranger root

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around your home, don't do the same with your computer.

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Online safety expert David McClelland joins me now.

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Last week the TalkTalk attack, and British Gas, clearly people are

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scared online. How can you protect yourself? It has been a bad few

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weeks for the internet. People are scared. But there are tips to get in

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control. Phone calls, treat any saying they are from a service

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provider, weather TalkTalk, Marks Spencer, whoever, treat them as

:27:09.:27:12.

toxic. Call them back on a number you have gotten hold of from a bill

:27:13.:27:17.

or a statement. The theme two is the bank

:27:18.:27:20.

statements. This is good practice but check the bank statements. Even

:27:21.:27:25.

for small amounts and report them to your bank. The banks are more than

:27:26.:27:29.

happy to check them through for you in the current climate. And three,

:27:30.:27:35.

pass words. Pass words and user names have been leaked in the data

:27:36.:27:41.

breaches. If you use the same user name and pass words over multiple

:27:42.:27:46.

accounts, don't do it. It is like having the same key for the front

:27:47.:27:52.

door, back door, your car, your safe. It is not something that we do

:27:53.:27:56.

in the real world, why for the internet.

:27:57.:28:00.

We've had reports of screens mysteriously cracking

:28:01.:28:03.

Derby Car Centre have been called one of the most complained

:28:04.:28:12.

It could mean that out of 250 companies they're in the top 249.

:28:13.:28:28.

Or as Brian Clough said, in the top one.

:28:29.:28:30.

Warning signs have been flashing around Derby Car Centre for a couple

:28:31.:28:37.

of years now. To find out how bright and clear they, we have to buy a

:28:38.:28:51.

motorof our own. Now this salesman sells cars all day

:28:52.:28:56.

long. You think me may know something about them. Wouldn't you?

:28:57.:29:10.

OK. Well, he looks at a Golf. But it is the Peugeot 407 that is perfect

:29:11.:29:15.

for his needs. It is magnificent! I don't like it

:29:16.:29:29.

as much as I like the Golf but... OK. Let's get the motorruning.

:29:30.:29:40.

And the battery is flat. That is a good start.

:29:41.:29:48.

They tried to jump start it but it is taking a while. Have a break,

:29:49.:29:55.

have a fig-fag. Anyway, the battery has been

:29:56.:29:59.

kick-started it is time for a test drive.

:30:00.:30:20.

Good to know, especially when you're driving 5 in a 30. It would also

:30:21.:30:30.

have been good to know this car doesn't have an MOT, so this test

:30:31.:30:34.

drive is illegal. Before we are even done, the car issueders and dies,

:30:35.:30:46.

again. We are told the battery will be sorted, so Nick agrees to buy the

:30:47.:30:52.

Peugeot. He hands over almost two grand. Could you get it MOTed in

:30:53.:31:01.

time for tomorrow? They called their garage to see how quickly it can be

:31:02.:31:10.

done. It sounds promising. But our salesman's plans turn out to be a

:31:11.:31:17.

little bit ambitious. Over the next couple of weeks we are promised our

:31:18.:31:21.

Peugeot on no fewer than seven occasions.

:31:22.:31:40.

Ten days after our illegal test drive and plenty of calls and texts

:31:41.:31:47.

later, our French motor is finally ready. I'm here to pick up the 407.

:31:48.:31:58.

And guess a's there to greet us? The main man Mark Whitfield.

:31:59.:32:08.

So with over 500 quid spent on it, it should be in perfect working

:32:09.:32:12.

order then. Our car's ready to take away. It

:32:13.:32:43.

started. That was a good sign. But within moment of leaving we spot a

:32:44.:32:48.

problem. What is that? The fuel light's on already but there's

:32:49.:32:51.

something else on now as well. Warning signs. But Nick's no expert.

:32:52.:32:59.

We need a real one. Cue marsh Brown, he would rather jack than Fleetwood

:33:00.:33:08.

Mac, so is our motor... A singer or a floater? The only way to know is

:33:09.:33:12.

to take it for a really careful drive. Let's start her up. The

:33:13.:33:21.

engine management light is on. The de-pollution light is on. My foot

:33:22.:33:25.

continued to travel the longer I hold it there. So this isn't the car

:33:26.:33:33.

for the Pyrenees? Definitely not. Don't worry, ladies and gentlemen,

:33:34.:33:38.

this has been risk assessed. Go on! We are driving under controlled

:33:39.:33:45.

conditions. Warp speed. What's that?! That's a problem which the

:33:46.:33:52.

lack of turbo pressure is causing. It makes the car virtually

:33:53.:34:01.

undrivable. That hon a slip road going on to a motorway would scare

:34:02.:34:06.

me rigid. On that note we end the drive and take it home. Can we take

:34:07.:34:11.

this car back because it's really horrible? Will it get us there? You

:34:12.:34:20.

tell me! You're the mechanic. It's going to take ?2,500 to put right

:34:21.:34:25.

the significant defects to make it safe, roadworthy and a

:34:26.:34:28.

confidence-inspiring drive. I don't know what the problem is. The

:34:29.:34:36.

steering feels solid. She's braking, stopping beautifully, accelerating.

:34:37.:34:39.

Seems like a big fuss about nothing. Take it away. It's a joke. You're

:34:40.:34:48.

probably wondering how this write-off ever passed an MOT. We

:34:49.:34:51.

take it for another one. Apparently it took Derby Car Centre ten days to

:34:52.:34:55.

get this through but it takes just one hour for ours to fail on dodgy

:34:56.:35:01.

brakes and suspension. It is officially unroadworthy. So the

:35:02.:35:04.

authorities have shown Derby Car Centre the yellow card. And said

:35:05.:35:10.

either pull up your sock or you'll wind up in the dock. And yet we've

:35:11.:35:15.

been sold a French car which could make us French toast. Perhaps you

:35:16.:35:19.

are thinking to yourself, well, it's just a series of unfortunate

:35:20.:35:29.

circumstances. Are you? Really? OK. Derby Car Centre have had all their

:35:30.:35:34.

warnings and all the ice cream in Italy won't stop what's going to

:35:35.:35:38.

happen next. 99 with a flake after a short break.

:35:39.:35:43.

It's Hallowe'en this weekend, and millions

:35:44.:35:44.

of children will be gettting dressed up for a night of fun.

:35:45.:35:48.

But we're all sadly aware of what happened last year

:35:49.:35:50.

when Claudia Winkleman's daughter's costume was set alight by a candle.

:35:51.:35:53.

We campaigned to have children's fancy dress costumes made safer.

:35:54.:35:55.

The law as it stands only requires them to meet fire

:35:56.:35:58.

We called for them to meet tighter regulations.

:35:59.:36:03.

The good news is that Trading Standards is now investigating to

:36:04.:36:06.

see if a change in the law is needed.

:36:07.:36:08.

And many of the big stores and supermarkets volunteered to

:36:09.:36:11.

test their costumes to a higher standard this year.

:36:12.:36:13.

However, we don't want people to now think

:36:14.:36:15.

Reports from accross the country have shown that many costumes

:36:16.:36:21.

So remember this important message that no one understands

:36:22.:36:26.

I don't want another eight-year-old to go through what Tilda went

:36:27.:36:37.

through. I don't want this to happen. I think next Hallowe'en,

:36:38.:36:42.

even if I stop a few people going, let's not put them in that, near a

:36:43.:36:44.

naked flame, that would be amazing. So, here at Watchdog we have

:36:45.:36:48.

a few safety tips. There are plenty

:36:49.:36:51.

of battery operated alternatives They are widely available

:36:52.:36:53.

and, per candle, most Of course, your kids may still come

:36:54.:36:56.

into contact with flames, so think about the type

:36:57.:37:00.

of costume you put them in. Remember that we found,

:37:01.:37:04.

frilly costumes like this burn a lot quicker than those made

:37:05.:37:06.

of a single piece of fabric. If you can get your children to wear

:37:07.:37:25.

woollen clothes underneath, melting clothes went melt on the skin.

:37:26.:37:31.

And remember, the best thing to do if someone does catch fire.

:37:32.:37:34.

This time for adults, concerning these - cosmetic contact lenses.

:37:35.:37:44.

To give you that just turned vampire look.

:37:45.:37:52.

She was born and she grows every single day.

:37:53.:37:57.

Trading Standards have warned it is against the law to sell them

:37:58.:38:00.

without an optician or medical practicioner being present.

:38:01.:38:02.

This is because if you use them without proper supervision

:38:03.:38:04.

So, all the shops that previously stocked them must have taken them

:38:05.:38:11.

We visited ten different shops, both fancy dress chains

:38:12.:38:16.

Do you have those scary contact lenses? Yes. Thank you.

:38:17.:38:54.

As you can see, although some shops offered lens

:38:55.:38:56.

solution or asked us to sign a form, none of them had an optician

:38:57.:39:00.

So if you fancy a pair of freaky peepers, get them fitted

:39:01.:39:07.

by a qualified professional who'll give you the correct advice.

:39:08.:39:09.

If you already own a pair, throw them in the bin.

:39:10.:39:15.

And give the dustman a bit of a shock.

:39:16.:39:19.

They've revolutionised the fitness market - offering cheap flexible

:39:20.:39:23.

Which is great news for fitness fanatics like Matt and I.

:39:24.:39:29.

Thousands are switching from the more expensive established

:39:30.:39:32.

gyms and one of the fastest growing alternatives

:39:33.:39:34.

They currently have 32 gyms across the country and are aiming to

:39:35.:39:42.

They call themselves 'the people's gym' and say their

:39:43.:39:46.

One small problem - they don't seem to be happy to let

:39:47.:39:50.

This is the Colonel, Xercise4Less call him their resident training

:39:51.:40:06.

genius, and what an outfit. The Colonel is the company's online

:40:07.:40:11.

personal fitness guru and he will demonstrate the dos and don'ts of

:40:12.:40:16.

using the gym and give you tips for your work-out on your computer. But

:40:17.:40:22.

today thankfully in a pair of shorts the Xercise4Less Colonel is here to

:40:23.:40:26.

show me what I like to call the cancellation work-out. Leaving

:40:27.:40:30.

should be easy. All you need to do is give a 30-day written notice to

:40:31.:40:34.

the gym branch you originally signed up to. Job done. But apparently not.

:40:35.:40:44.

Many of you out there say trying to leave Xercise4Less can really make

:40:45.:40:50.

you work up a bit of a sweat. Like Leanne Hancocks from Wakefield, who

:40:51.:40:54.

tried to quit her ?10 a month membership in November last year. I

:40:55.:40:59.

decided to cancel my gym membership because I found out I was pregnant.

:41:00.:41:04.

I went to the gym and spoke to one of the receptionists. She said yes

:41:05.:41:09.

you can cancel your membership, here's a cancellation form. Leanne

:41:10.:41:13.

filled in the form and handed it back in, like Xercise4Less tell you

:41:14.:41:18.

to do on their website. They go on the say they'll do everything for

:41:19.:41:22.

you, making life as simple as possible, but for Leanne it was far

:41:23.:41:26.

from simple. It wasn't until two months later I realised my gym

:41:27.:41:33.

membership hadn't been cancelled via my direct debit. Leanne called the

:41:34.:41:38.

gym and they said there was no record of her cancelling despite...

:41:39.:41:44.

She decided to cancel her direct debit with her bank. But this is

:41:45.:41:48.

where it gets really complicated for Leanne, because just a few days

:41:49.:41:52.

later another company enters the scene. Meet Colonel fro the Harland

:41:53.:41:59.

group. This company collect the direct debits from Xercise4Less.

:42:00.:42:03.

Because Leanne had cancelled her direct debits they were chasing the

:42:04.:42:07.

payments and said she owed fees on top. All at the same time as she was

:42:08.:42:12.

trying to cancel her contract with Xercise4Less. So she was taking on

:42:13.:42:17.

two companies at the same time. And that is is really hard work. I rang

:42:18.:42:24.

Harland up and they said to me they had no word from the gym that my

:42:25.:42:29.

membership had been cancelled and I would have to go back to the gym. It

:42:30.:42:35.

was my first pregnancy. It was a complicated pregnancy as well. I

:42:36.:42:39.

didn't need the additional stress of getting letters from that company.

:42:40.:42:45.

Leanne vently got both companies off her back, but hers is a story we've

:42:46.:42:49.

heard a lot. Jonathan Murphy cancelled his membership with

:42:50.:42:52.

Xercise4Less earlier this year. Three months later the gym was still

:42:53.:42:58.

taking his monthly ?10 payments. Dean walker's failed cancellation

:42:59.:43:03.

attempt ended up with him being chased for more than ?170. And for

:43:04.:43:08.

Sarah Paige her cancellation battle began when she realised she signed

:43:09.:43:13.

up for a gym that wasn't even built yet. Why did you leave Xercise4Less?

:43:14.:43:18.

Didn't like it? I didn't get the chance to find out if I liked it, it

:43:19.:43:22.

wasn't even open. They didn't tell me on the phone when I rang them to

:43:23.:43:28.

join up. What did you do? As long as you cancel within 14 days it should

:43:29.:43:32.

have been fine. I cancelled my directs Deb wit the bank, so as far

:43:33.:43:36.

as I was concerned it should have been cancelled. But then Sarah

:43:37.:43:41.

received a letter from Harlands, remember them? Asking why she

:43:42.:43:45.

cancelled her direct debit. I went back to Xercise4Less and said I've

:43:46.:43:49.

cancelled with you, why are they saying I haven't? Cancel my

:43:50.:43:53.

membership. You were caught in the middle weren't you? Like a tennis

:43:54.:43:58.

match, backwards and forwards. I felt like I was piggy in the middle

:43:59.:44:03.

trying to negotiate between the pair of them. Please cancel my

:44:04.:44:10.

membership. We asked a business lawyer to look through our studies.

:44:11.:44:15.

The customer shouldn't have to sort it out. If you put the customer in

:44:16.:44:19.

that position it is Xercise4Less's job to fix it. Taking on two

:44:20.:44:24.

companies at the same time trying to cancel your contract is exhausting

:44:25.:44:28.

enough, but some customers found themselves taking on a third. And

:44:29.:44:38.

this one doesn't mess about. Stevie and her partner Richard decided to

:44:39.:44:42.

leave Xercise4Less because they know longer had time to go to the gym

:44:43.:44:46.

regularly. They followed the gym's advice and handed in their 30 days

:44:47.:44:50.

written notice. They told us we'd have a last payment to make and then

:44:51.:44:55.

we rightfully assumed we could cancel our direct debit. As far as

:44:56.:44:59.

we were concerned that should have been the end of it. But nearly four

:45:00.:45:03.

months later Stevie received a shock. Despite handing this their

:45:04.:45:08.

cancellation notice at exactly the same time Xercise4Less had only

:45:09.:45:14.

cancelled Richard's membership and Stevie was being chased by Credit

:45:15.:45:20.

Resolution Services. I got a letter from a debt collection agency saying

:45:21.:45:24.

I owed over ?200. Almost half of which was the fees of the debt

:45:25.:45:33.

collection agency themselves. When espoke to somebody at the

:45:34.:45:38.

Xercise4Less gym, they said that the e-mail had not been read correctly

:45:39.:45:44.

at the head office. The excuse was that they receive thousands of

:45:45.:45:47.

e-mails and some are not read. So, it could be a system that relies

:45:48.:45:52.

on e-mails from reception to head office, with no process in place? I

:45:53.:45:58.

can't understand how they don't have access to their membership base from

:45:59.:46:02.

a head office, clearly. Xercise4Less don't let you cancel

:46:03.:46:05.

online but what about you signing up? You will not be surprised to

:46:06.:46:10.

hear that the process was entirely painless, a few minutes on the

:46:11.:46:15.

website and we have joined up. Cancelling a gym membership should

:46:16.:46:19.

not be difficult. It was easy enough to join, why is it so difficult to

:46:20.:46:24.

cancel? If a customer knows how difficult it is to cancel, it may

:46:25.:46:27.

have affected their decision to join the gym. In terms of the

:46:28.:46:33.

cancellation process, what have Xercise4Less done wrong? They have

:46:34.:46:37.

not acted with reasonable care and skill. In layman's terms it means

:46:38.:46:44.

don't mess it up. Xercise4Less have messed it up.

:46:45.:46:46.

Xercise4Less have apologised unreservedly to Leanne, Jonathan,

:46:47.:46:49.

Dean, Sarah and Stevie - and given them all full refunds.

:46:50.:46:52.

The company accepts it occasionally makes mistakes but it has a quarter

:46:53.:46:55.

And it says it takes pride in how clear and transparent its

:46:56.:46:59.

cancellation terms and conditions are and constantly reviews them to

:47:00.:47:01.

Now, the Hudl 2, Tesco's no-frills tablet.

:47:02.:47:13.

It launched just over a year ago claiming to be 'Bigger,

:47:14.:47:15.

However, last week Tesco announced it was being discontinued.

:47:16.:47:18.

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

:47:19.:47:25.

We're the the three witches from Macbeth.

:47:26.:47:33.

Hudl, Hudl, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble.

:47:34.:47:41.

And the Hudl's problems don't stop there.

:47:42.:47:43.

We've heard from 65 Hudl owners who all say

:47:44.:47:45.

their tablets mysterious cracked while they were on charge.

:47:46.:47:47.

Not when you hear what Tesco said to its customers.

:47:48.:48:02.

They told customers the glass they use is incredibly

:48:03.:48:07.

strong, that the damage must have been caused by the owners

:48:08.:48:10.

and that they would have to pay up to ?79 to get their devices fixed.

:48:11.:48:13.

Pretty steep considering the Hudl retailed at just ?99.

:48:14.:48:30.

This is where the plot thickens.

:48:31.:48:34.

We contacted the company that makes the glass,

:48:35.:48:36.

They told us that although the glass is extremely

:48:37.:48:39.

strong, "Tesco are aware of these failures and it has been discussed

:48:40.:48:42.

We put this to Tesco and they told us only a very small number

:48:43.:48:51.

of customers have contacted them about the durability of the Hudl

:48:52.:48:54.

screen and the majority of these have been due to accidental damage.

:48:55.:48:57.

They also say they carried out an investigation with

:48:58.:48:59.

their touchscreen provider which concluded there wasn't fault

:49:00.:49:01.

So that means some screens have cracked, even though they

:49:02.:49:05.

Tesco say only it's only a tiny number and insist there isn't

:49:06.:49:11.

Well, fair is foul and foul is fair.

:49:12.:49:21.

We're not sure the numbers are so tiny.

:49:22.:49:24.

So if this has happened to you, get in touch and tell us your story.

:49:25.:49:28.

And if you think you know what might be causing these mysterious

:49:29.:49:31.

cracks, we'd be interested to know what you think.

:49:32.:49:35.

Super, thank you. Off you go. Go! Go!

:49:36.:49:53.

The spell is about to be broken for Mark Whitfield of Derby Car Centre.

:49:54.:49:57.

He's ignored the warnings he's had about sorting out his business,

:49:58.:49:59.

and we've bought a car which shoudn't be anywhere near the road.

:50:00.:50:02.

That means we're on the road for a head-on collision.

:50:03.:50:10.

We bought a Peugeot 407 from Derby Car Centre, for just short of

:50:11.:50:18.

?2,000. But the expert found out it had dodgy brakes and suspension and

:50:19.:50:25.

would cost ?2,500 to fix up. That is not right, is it? So we are in Derby

:50:26.:50:31.

but there is a problem. I don't feel comfortable driving the car. Yet we

:50:32.:50:34.

have to get it back to Derby Car Centre to get our money back. I tell

:50:35.:50:41.

you what we need... A trio of Victorian strongmen. Take it away,

:50:42.:50:55.

gentlemen! They have fully warmed up, our Victor yen musclemen, so

:50:56.:50:59.

they can now push the car bark to the Derby Car Centre. In the

:51:00.:51:06.

meantime, I have to catch up with the boss, Mark Whitfield.

:51:07.:51:11.

We have worked out the problem with your business, you. You are the

:51:12.:51:17.

threat to the enforcement order in place for the cars we bought from

:51:18.:51:22.

you. And remember this that was handed over? The MOT was done the

:51:23.:51:26.

same day it was taken to you it failed.

:51:27.:51:31.

It has a fuelling problem. Is it failed? It is. As you know,

:51:32.:51:40.

from the motoring industry, an MOT is not a motoring certificate it

:51:41.:51:45.

does not devolve the problem, that is you, from handing over the

:51:46.:51:51.

certificate, and this clearly shows that it is not road worthy. We have

:51:52.:51:57.

had it driven by an expert. I don't want to drive it again. When you

:51:58.:52:02.

sell a car, an MOT does not say it is road worthy. It is not a

:52:03.:52:09.

guarantee of road worthiness. That car has been MOTTed,

:52:10.:52:13.

road-tested by a qualified engineer. He is not doing it properly. It is

:52:14.:52:17.

your responsibility. You don't seem to grasp it.

:52:18.:52:19.

I do. It is not fit for purpose. In a

:52:20.:52:23.

satisfactory condition. You have breached that order.

:52:24.:52:31.

It is a 122,000 miles car. If people have a problem, we are there to look

:52:32.:52:35.

after them. I don't accept without having my opportunity to check it,

:52:36.:52:39.

that you are correct in what you are saying.

:52:40.:52:43.

The blue BMW you driving is not taxed.

:52:44.:52:47.

It has come in a few days ago. You have been driving it a few days

:52:48.:52:50.

ago. I need a drink. I want to have the

:52:51.:52:54.

debate with you it is important. Of course. You sold us a car that is

:52:55.:53:00.

not fit, not satisfactory. It breaches the ah order here. You have

:53:01.:53:04.

said you have had a clean out of the business, there is only a person to

:53:05.:53:11.

clean out, that is you. You need a P 45 from your business, to sort it

:53:12.:53:14.

out. I go to massive lengths to sort the

:53:15.:53:22.

cars out. If it has done 122,000 miles, it is 11 years of age, there

:53:23.:53:27.

will be areas of wear on a car. Let me have a drink it goes in for a

:53:28.:53:31.

check over. If they are happy with the cars going out, I am.

:53:32.:53:37.

I would like to MOT that and get another opinion.

:53:38.:53:41.

We have had two on it already. We have had an independent check. We

:53:42.:53:44.

are happy with the level of evidence. We are not happy with the

:53:45.:53:47.

quality of the cars coming from this joint. Whatever the checks you are

:53:48.:53:51.

doing, they are not working. I am doing all that I can to check

:53:52.:53:58.

on the vehicles it is difficult to make an 11-year-old, 122,000 mile

:53:59.:54:03.

car, brand new. That is impossible. Not new, safe. What is an MOT not? A

:54:04.:54:10.

certificate of road worthiness? Thank you.

:54:11.:54:13.

Thank you for your time. Thank you. Well, I got a little distracted. I'm

:54:14.:54:31.

sure that there is something to do. Ask for your money back.

:54:32.:54:33.

That's it. We need the money back.

:54:34.:54:40.

We have to inspect the car. We want to get the money back at the

:54:41.:54:44.

end of this. Do you get much of this? Customers ask for their money

:54:45.:54:51.

back? It depends. It looks like we will not get the

:54:52.:54:55.

money back. You are just trying to sell the TV.

:54:56.:54:58.

Go on. We are happy with the evidence. If

:54:59.:55:04.

you are not prepared to take that... You are disrupting the business.

:55:05.:55:13.

OK, Mark. Let's get this car out of here, trio of Victor yen --

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Victorian strong men. There we are, Derby Car Centre, Mr

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Mark Whitfield. A taste of what you can expect as a customer and if

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things go wrong with your Derby Car Centre car. Just a word... Guys, if

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you buy a car from here, check it out.

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Derby Car Centre sell over 100 cars a month

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So to be clear, that's five out of every 100.

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They say our cases are older budget cars that

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And they've given Tanya a full refund.

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Before they sell a car they have it MOT'd and inspected

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by independent, approved garages, often spending hundreds of pounds

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bringing the car up to a roadworthy standard, and releasing those cars

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They say these garages dispute our findings.

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And they are working to the strict guidelines set out

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If you're thinking of buying a second hand car this weekend, you

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But here's a face you might like to bookmark - its Mark Whitfield of

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On the Zafira B story. Lynn said they had a Zafira booked in but they

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cancelled. And Sharon says: Come on Vauxhall, you are not recalling the

:56:55.:56:59.

Zafira, how many must caught up fire now. Does a life have to be lost?

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And the computer expert, they were called. They got threatening. Also

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we had a call from someone pretending to be from TalkTalk, they

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And, of course, keep sending us your stories and tip-offs.

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Just go to our website and click on where it says 'send your story'.

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You can of course write to us as well.

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Have you been left confused by the new pension rules?

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Get in touch if you've got a question.

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Undercover at Kwik-Fit - charging you for things you don't

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And Amazon blocking people's accounts just for sending

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That's next Thursday at our usual time of 8.00pm.

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Until then, from all of us here, goodnight.

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Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley with your 90-second update.

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A 16-year-old boy's been charged over the death of Bailey Gwynne.

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He was stabbed at a school in Aberdeen yesterday.

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