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Tonight - Kwik Fit change 5 million tyres a year but are they inflating

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bills by charging for thin air? Watchdog finds out.

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A whistleblower explains how the rip-offs work and why you would not

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spot it. We went undercover to investigate

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and employed a special agent. It sounds like a job for Hollins, Chris

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Hollins. Hello and welcome to Watchdog. We

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are live for the next hour. Fighting for your rights. What would you do

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if your pension pot disappeared? With the new pension freedoms in

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place, a staggering number of you are being targeted by scammers, we

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will tell you how to ensure you are not one of them.

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Plus, we help the viewers against the biggest online retailer in the

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world, Amazon shut their accounts for sending things back.

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And we are explaining what the Sharm El-Sheikh incident could have on all

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of our holidays. And also, how bad can a rogue salesman be? This could

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qualify for a medal position. Yes, God works in mysterious ways.

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Tonight, she has put that man in jail.

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Plus, chocolate. Yes, apparently every lady loves

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Milk Tray. But they will not like the fact that Cadbury's are

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shrinking the boxes and doing the same to more of your favourites.

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First, in the week that Spectre has broken the box office, we have been

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talking about some of the baddies. Gold Finger, Jaws, BlowFelt And

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Zenia Onatop. And now a rip-off, where Kwik Fit

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charge you extra for thin air. Magnificent, isn't she? 0 of 06 in

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2.3 seconds. If there is one thing to rely on in

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a James Bond film, it is the best cars. And Spectre is no exception as

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007 gets the keys to this custom built Aston Martin. According to

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Kwik Fit, if you really want to drive like James Bond, even in a

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Porsche, instead of filling the tyres are normal air, you must fill

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them with nitrogen! Yes, air, it is so last decade. Kwik Fit claim by

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filling the tyres with extra nitrogen, it will improve

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performance and slow down deflation. Saying as nitrogen escapes slowly,

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it keeps the tyres inflated for longer. Perfect for high-speed

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chases and secret missions and collecting the nappies from the

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supermarket! Kwik Fit are keen for everyone to try nitrogen, that they

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are determined to give it to the customers, even if they want it or

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not. We have heard from customers across the country, taking in tyres

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for replacement, and found to be charged ?1. 50 pertyre for nitrogen

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inflation, despite never asking for it.

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I did not ask for it but when I got the bill, it was added to it. They

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charged me for nitrogen inflation. I was not asked about the service. I

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am not happy about this. Finding your bill inflated without

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your knowledge is clearly frustrating. But eye been sent on a

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top secret mission to meet Paul Hart, who in Southampton was having

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troubles with his tyres. So you took it to Kwik Fit, what

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happened? They changed the tyre. They gave me the bill. I looked at

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the bill, it said nitrogen inflation.

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Did you ask for it? No. So Paul became a little suspicious

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about what exactly had been added to his tyre. So he decided to

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investigate further. So he may not be a pretend Micks agent like me but

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Paul is not your average Kwik Fit customer.

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I thought, I'm a diving instructor, I have the equipment to analyse air

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and gases, so I thought I would analyse them to see if they had

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actually put in nitrogen. So they picked on the wrong

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patterned you tested the car. What did you find? It had air in it.

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Just standard air, no different to the air that we breathe now.

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What did they say? They were embarrassed. They did not think that

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anyone would query the fact that there was not nitrogen in the tyres.

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They didn't have an answer for me, they would give me the money back.

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It was not about the money. It was the fact that they were lying to me

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and probably to others as well. So we sent our undercover agents to

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ten Kwik Fit stores across the UK and asked them to change a tyre.

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We found that the ?1. 50 for nitrogen inflation automatically

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added to the bill. Nine out of ten branches charged us, despite the

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team not requesting it and not being asked if we wanted it. On the nine

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that did charge us, what exactly were we paying for? We called in

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Mark Jones, a nitrogen generator expert. Or to you and me, someone

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who knows a lot about gas. Today he is our very own Q. He is going to

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test our tyres. First, a quick science lesson. Air

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is made up of 78% nitrogen. 21% oxygen and 1% other gases. If they

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had added nitrogen to the tyres, the oxygen percentage should go down.

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The test equipment takes a sample of air to from the tyres and feeds it

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into the oxygen content here to measure it. 21% of that is oxygen,

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that will tell us it is just air. Lower amounts will tell us that

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nitrogen has been added. Two tyres had been filled with pure

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nitrogen. So although we had not asked for it, they were giving us

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what we were charged for. Then it got interesting. The next tyre was

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mostly air. With just a small amount of extra nitrogen. What about the

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rest? This is just air in the tyre. That is definitely air? This is

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definitely an air sample. It is looking like air. 100% air. No

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nitrogen added. In total of the nine tyres we

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tested, supposedly filled with nitrogen, six were actually just

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air. One had only a very small amount of extra nitrogen. So, were

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we unlucky, or could this be a wider problem? We were contacted by a

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whistleblower who still works at Kwik Fit and is unhappy with the

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practices. He agreed to give us the inside story.

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I have worked in about 10-12 different centres, seeing nitrogen

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used once or twice. I can guarantee that the nitrogen is added to as

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many bills. You are given a bonus. You want the bonus at the end of the

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month. ?1. 50 added to the bill is not a huge amount of money. Bur Kwik

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Fit changes over 5 million tyres a year. If some customers are charged

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for nitrogen that they are not getting, it is a money maker. And

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does nitrogen inflation make that much of a difference to the car? We

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asked the AA. . There are some applications where

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the use of nitrogen is beneficial, aircraft tyres, Formula One.

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Motorsports, the extreme temperatures and lowering of the

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tyres means that the nitrogen is beneficial. But from our

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perspective, the use of nitrogen as opposed to air, it does not offer

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benefits. We find it difficult to justify the investment in nitrogen

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tyres. So, Kwik Fit, we cannot wait to hear

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your explanation of this one. In the meantime, I think I might just stick

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to good old fashioned air in my tyres.

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Here is the reaction. Kwik Fit apologising and saying:

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They will retrain staff and review the procedures across the centres.

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Saying drivers who think that they may have been affected can bring in

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the receipt and Kwik Fit will refill the tyres with nitrogen and give

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them a ?5 voucher. The company insists that there are benefits to

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nitrogen inflation, and it will offer nitrogen inflation free of

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charge to any Kwik Fit customer. More good news. Two weeks ago, we

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reported Vauxhall Zafiras bursting into flame, Vauxhall said that they

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were investigating but stopped short of recalling the cars. Tonight they

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told us that they are now recalling the Vauxhall Zafira B. It the

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company does not know the root cause of the fire but will write to all

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affected owners to recall every one of the 220,000 Vauxhall Zafira Bs on

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the road to repair and ensure that the cars are safe. Thank you for

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getting in touch to #e7 help us with the story.

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E-mail about any stories and go to the website.

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You can tweet them to us. Or post them on our Facebook page.

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Jacques Rogge provide us with worries, tears and sometimes

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laughter but after they leave your screen, there can be a legal process

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to bring them to justice. We don't have much to do with that it can

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take years. But we like to hear about it and tell you what has

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happened so you can throw your slippers at the television all over

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again. I'm sure that there are no other programmes around that will

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make you do that. You know, I'm fairly certain when we

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see the apprentices lining up at the beginning of a series, what they are

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saying may noting be everything that they are feeling.

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I'm a corporate panther in a flock of 14506789 ready to do business and

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put claws in your contract. I'm not a person, I'm a Ferrari but faster

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and remembered. I am ready to blow your world apart with my ambition

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bomb. The fuse is lit, now stand back and watch me bang.

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That is OK. We all need to give ourselves a pep talk from time to

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time. Just to boost the confidence. Anyway, the show would not be the

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same if they said what they were really feeling. Imagine? I have not

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slept a week as I'm so excited and nervous about this. My jacket is a

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bit tight and I have a mouth ulcer. I bought new shoes, that was a

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mistake. I hope we only walk on carpets, so I can take them back if

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I am thrown out. I have not worked in several months

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as everyone thinks I am too shouty. I really need the loo.

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I suppose that at the end of the day they are only fooling themselves. We

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are not fooling anyone, are we, fake Sugar! Can you do the voice? No, OK.

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Salesmen, well, they are a completely different ball of wax.

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Yes, you see they have a responsibility to other people, not

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just themselves. And it is a big responsibility especially when they

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are dealing with the old or the vulnerable. Back in 2013, we

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featured an alarm selling company called Inter Defence Security Ltd.

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Run by this man: Nemar Restaga. He sold overpriced security alarms to

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people who did not need them. We spent Becky undercover to the

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call centre to find out if he put the fear into old people wherever

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they went. Becky was give an script when cold calling customers.

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It had certain tactics. They called themselves Crime

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Awareness advisors. Trained to say these types of things on every call,

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no matter where the person that they are speaking to lives. Don't move

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me? A few sales from this salesman will change your mind.

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That does sound horrible and your mother must be proud, not to mention

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your grandmother! Unfortunately, it was not a one-off.

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So what motivates this lying to an scaring of the elderly? Yes, no

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surprise. Inter Defence are about making money at the expense of the

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elderly. Here is the big boss. To check what happened after the

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cold calls, we set up two houses with two actors to see what they're

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travelling salesman or risk assessment advisers would tell us.

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Here they come. We have security expert Terry listening. The first

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one wastes no time about telling us about criminals running loose in the

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area. It is all nonsense. The salesman is using scare tactics.

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This is nonsense, it just does not happen. Round two. Next we hear

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their alarm systems have been awarded a gold certificate. In case

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you were wondering, the NSI is the national security Inspectorate.

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However... They have assured us this company does not have any such

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recognition. That is a live then. There is good news, we are told

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there is a promotion and the system is free and we only pay for

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monitoring. There is a catch. See if you can guess what it is.

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Yes it is misleading to claim the system is free for a limited time

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only when they are not. It is against the law. And they are not

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cheap. A 12 year contract is around ?5,500. That only it will cost that

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if we sign today, which. We were not the only ones watching

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the boss of Inter Defence Security. Colin from the insolvency service

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had his eyes on him. He was concerned with how quickly Inter

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Defence would install the alarms after the sales visit.

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As soon as the customer signed the contract in the home, the alarm

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system would be fitted within days and certainly within the seven days

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statutory cooling off period, which would hinder the customer exercising

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the right to cancel the contract. It was confirmed that the boss was

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mis-selling monarchs. And he was stopped from being a company

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director. He was given that because of the serious and objectionable

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sales practice the company had deployed in persuading people to

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sign up. We do not know what he is up to now. Maybe you do.

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You really cannot answer at all, can you?

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Fake Lord Sugar is left speechless by our rogues, but you do not have

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to be. If you know what they are up to now, let us know. Even though

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they may have moved on, we haven't. We never give up.

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Why? Because rogues who keep on being rogues can leave a devastating

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trail behind them. Witness the son of one man who never recovered from

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being caught out. That still haunts me, as to how

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somebody could do that to an old person. It is something I will never

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forget. It sticks in my mind and I think about it a lot.

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Arokia Rajiv is talking about received his sentence today. We will

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be happy to share that with you in ten.

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Still to come: When is a returns policy not a returns policy? When

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you send something back to Amazon and they block your account for

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doing it. Now, pension freedoms. Six months

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ago the government brought in new rules that promised the biggest

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shake-up in almost a century. This is what the Chancellor had to say.

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Pensioners will have complete freedom to draw down as much or as

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little of their pension pot as they want. No caps, no drawdown limit. No

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one will have to buy an annuity. The new rules seemed radical, promising

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to give savers bank account style access to their pension so they

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could withdraw what they wanted when they wanted. Six months on, how easy

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is it to get hold of your pension? It is a well earned reward for

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decades of hard work, but getting your hands on your pension and using

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that cashed the way you see fit has historically been like trying to

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break into a bank vault. The years, millions reaching retirement had to

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spend most of their pension pot on a product called an annuity. It meant

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you would get a guaranteed income for the rest of your life.

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But that would be that, the pension fund would be locked away with no

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opportunity to withdraw any further cash. So in April, the government

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introduced new rules to give savers more freedom to get hold of their

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cash, including bank account style access. It certainly sounds like a

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fairer system. Complete freedom to access money whenever and however

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you want to. Except that when it comes to getting

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your hands on your pension pot, the stories you have told us our wrath

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delays, chaos and total confusion. The first barrier, but Watchdog

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viewers have faced is pension companies do not have to follow

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these new rules and can refuse to let you access your cash the way you

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want. It seems to be luck, down to whether the pension provider you

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chose years ago decided to offer the new freedoms or not. 55-year-old

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Trevor Wilson from Birmingham works for an engineering company and has a

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pension with Aegon. He asked to take out a ?20,000 lump sum to help with

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his mortgage. They said they would not be prepared to support the

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scheme and my only option was to transfer my pension to an

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alternative provider. Because companies do not have to offer the

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new freedoms Aegon were free to deny access to the money. I like to think

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I can make decisions about my own financial future. But that is not

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the case and I am prone to the whims of individual providers. He will now

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have to wait if he chooses to transfer his pension to a company

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that would offer the cash. Being forced to go through pension

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transfers or put sure plans on hold is not seem to be the pension

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freedom the government dropped off. But as you have been telling us,

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even if the company you are with offers the pension freedoms, it does

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not mean they understand how it works. Chris Carter, a 65-year-old

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retired manager from Essex heard about the changes. He decided to

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cash in his ?15,803 pension pot as he thought he could find a better

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deal elsewhere. He contacted his provider, Phoenix life. But there

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was a catch. I got a letter saying I would have to see an independent

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adviser and the quotes were ridiculous for the amount we were

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talking about. The fund was 15000 and the quotes I was getting was

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?750 initially, plus ?150 an hour to look at my situation. After that

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they said without that they could not pay me my money. Why was he

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being forced to pay so much for advice? Chris's pension plan had

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guarantees, which meant he could get a yearly payment at a competitive

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rate. The government put in place new rules that these pensions if

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they are deemed to be worth ?30,000 or more, you have to pay for

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financial advice before the money is released. Phoenix decided that his

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pension could end up being worth over ?30,000 if he lived a long

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time. But he did not want yearly payments, he wanted his money. Each

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phone call was about the same thing, no, we cannot because of

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legislation. It was created every time. In desperation, he called

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Phoenix Life and tried a final time to get his hands on his money. Their

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response was not what he expected. I got the call to say it had been

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decided they would pay the money. I could not believe it had gone on so

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long without a result, when suddenly it changed. A complete U-turn. The

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company said they would now not make him take financial advice despite

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saying the advice was required by law, they said it was based on their

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interpretation which they have now decided to change. The pension

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companies who are looking after our money should be taken to task. Chris

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had a narrow escape, he managed to avoid paying up to ?1000 for advice

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his company was not sure he needed. And we have heard of a more serious

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problem. It seems when some of you have tried to access your pension,

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money has been mysteriously disappearing, with no explanation or

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warning. 65-year-old Peter Brady is a retired office manager from

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decided to cash in his ?18,000 plus pension pot to take his family on

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holiday and cover his future funeral costs. He decided to transfer the

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pension from Aviva to another provider because he could not cash

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in the full about. The letter I received from Aviva in February

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stated that my pension pot was valued at ?18,000 and this would be

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the minimum I would receive. Peter went ahead with a transfer and

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received a letter from Aviva saying it was a success, but there was a

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problem. The final amount transferred was almost ?11,000 less

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Aviva said the pension was work. I was totally devastated. I had lost

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?11,000. It seems totally unfair. I feel I have been robbed of my

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pension. Peter wrote to Aviva asking them where his money was but seven

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weeks later, Peter still has had no response. I am totally disgusted. I

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cannot understand why they would want to trick a pension of the way

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they have -- treat a pension at the way they have treated me. Peter is

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still waiting to find out where his missing money has gone, all because

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he was trying to get hold of his cash. Is the pension industry giving

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us the freedom we were promised, or are the pension vault doors not as

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open as the government would have you believe?

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It is apologies all round from the pension providers. Aegon said it was

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sorry it did not explain more clearly. And an apology to Chris

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Carter. And Peter Brady, since we got in touch, Aviva has refunded the

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?11,000, plus interest, and paid in compensation. If you want any

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advice, our experts are here to answer your pension questions. We

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will be explaining how to avoid the pension scams.

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Also coming up later, travel expert Simon is here to talk about how

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events like the Sharm el-Sheikh air crash could change the way we

:27:18.:27:25.

travel. Cadbury announced yesterday they are

:27:26.:27:29.

altering their fruit and nut bars by adding sultanas to the recipe which

:27:30.:27:34.

before used raisins only. People describe it as cost saving and are

:27:35.:27:39.

complaining. Raisins, sultanas, what is the difference? I have a good

:27:40.:27:46.

dried fruit answer. We contacted the dried fruit trade association who

:27:47.:27:49.

told us that raisins are left to dry on the ground for up to four weeks,

:27:50.:27:55.

whereas sultanas dry for two, three weeks, before being dipped in a

:27:56.:27:59.

solution that fixes the lighter colour. You will know that sultanas

:28:00.:28:08.

have been between five and 10% cheaper in many of the last 20 years

:28:09.:28:12.

and chocolate lovers are saying that Cadbury is putting cost ahead of

:28:13.:28:21.

taste. This year already Roses. Have shrunk. Chocolate fingers. Have

:28:22.:28:27.

shrunk. Here Rose. Have shrunk. And we have a tip-off about another

:28:28.:28:33.

favourite. And if I may say so, the lady loves...

:28:34.:28:50.

And all because the lady loves Milk Tray. I love those advertisements.

:28:51.:28:58.

We are talking about Milk Tray and a viewer, Steve from Staffordshire,

:28:59.:29:02.

has been to Cairo recently. He got in touch to tell us the box of

:29:03.:29:07.

chocolates here have gone from 400 grams, like this, down to 300 grams

:29:08.:29:20.

-- 360 grams. 10% less. The prices -- the price has stayed the same. We

:29:21.:29:24.

counted them. In the old box, 38 chocolates. In the new one, 34. And

:29:25.:29:31.

if you look at the advertisement, 454 grams in those days. And we are

:29:32.:29:39.

down to 360. Cadbury said that they have changed the recipe of fruit and

:29:40.:29:45.

not bars to ensure flexibility of supplied dried fruit. And as the

:29:46.:29:49.

shrinking Milk Tray boxes, they say it is down to rising costs. They are

:29:50.:29:52.

auditioning for a new Milk Tray man. Well, everything is shrinking. Back

:29:53.:30:04.

to Jacques Rogge. Stories of salesman that we have followed long

:30:05.:30:09.

after the wheels have spun and the heated words exchanged. Talking of

:30:10.:30:14.

which, Fake k Lord Sugar is not speaking at the moment. What is up,

:30:15.:30:23.

Al? Cat got your tongu. Go on, do the catchphrase... Yeah.

:30:24.:30:29.

I think I may have a new apprentice for you. It is my old mate Geordie

:30:30.:30:35.

Phil. Phil, come on in.

:30:36.:30:40.

Hello, boys. Lovely to meet you. Listen, before we start, I better

:30:41.:30:44.

explain. I'm not big on hard work, too much hard work.

:30:45.:30:53.

I do a bit of busking at Whitby bay. Why not go down the pub, have a

:30:54.:30:59.

chat, I'll tell you a few jokes, oh, I see you want me to buy the first

:31:00.:31:06.

round. You're hired. You're hired! You're hired! Here is someone you

:31:07.:31:11.

would want to get off the premise as quickly as possible.

:31:12.:31:20.

Yes, a firm you would happily show the door were mam based Virgo

:31:21.:31:28.

healthcare Ltd. We featured them in 2010, after we received complaints

:31:29.:31:32.

by pressure selling and overcharging for products. Our actress called

:31:33.:31:36.

them out for information about a scooter and ended up with a

:31:37.:31:40.

masterclass in the hard sell for just about any product you can think

:31:41.:31:43.

of. The bath lift is ?2,000.

:31:44.:31:55.

The schooler is ?3,300. Now the mattress, that is ?1,500. For

:31:56.:31:59.

everything it would have worked out ?. 000. Taking off the 10% discount,

:32:00.:32:08.

it takes it down to just... And is it did not matter how many times the

:32:09.:32:12.

actress said it, the rep would not say no for an answer.

:32:13.:32:16.

I would like to think about it. I would like to consult my daughter.

:32:17.:32:20.

No, I don't really want to give you any money today.

:32:21.:32:25.

If you don't fancy writing a cheque, it could be done on a debit card.

:32:26.:32:30.

Can you go. I'm feeling bad. That is fine.

:32:31.:32:35.

I think May was saying "no". After two hours of pressure selling, the

:32:36.:32:43.

rep left empty handed. But was she a rotten apple? We sent our man in to

:32:44.:32:50.

work there. And the boss explained the pricing policy.

:32:51.:33:07.

So, there were two priceliests. -- price lists. The price that Virgo

:33:08.:33:14.

were prepared to sell at and what they wanted to sell at. How high did

:33:15.:33:43.

they inflate the price? So, the price was as high as the sales rep

:33:44.:33:48.

thought he could get away with. When our mole went door to door selling

:33:49.:33:53.

with a Virgo rep, we heard something more shock.

:33:54.:34:14.

Yeah, forget that the customer died. Far more important to focus on the

:34:15.:34:19.

fact that the order could not be cancelled so you get your

:34:20.:34:23.

commission. Here this guy is celebrating the

:34:24.:34:30.

sale to an 80-year-old man after two hours of pressurising him.

:34:31.:34:42.

Yeah, what a peach. We confronted the director of Virgo, Amajit Gill.

:34:43.:34:50.

How did he get how far around? Was it an electric scooter? No, it was

:34:51.:34:55.

not. Wow, is this what you are driving? When you run a business

:34:56.:35:00.

with a commission structure like yours has, then what you get is

:35:01.:35:04.

misbehaving salesman. That is the product? We have reported that the

:35:05.:35:11.

man stopped trading at Virgo Healthcare Ltd but continued to sell

:35:12.:35:16.

mobility products under other business names. So the customers

:35:17.:35:21.

were paying money but not receiving goods. In January, 2011, Derbyshire

:35:22.:35:27.

trading standards raided his home and business practices.

:35:28.:35:33.

We seized tens of thousands of business documents and computers to

:35:34.:35:37.

be examined for evidence and amongst other things we found ?34,000 worth

:35:38.:35:41.

of cash in the safe in a home that we seized.

:35:42.:35:44.

The raid provided them with evidence to take four individuals to court,

:35:45.:35:51.

including Ama jishgs t Gill, his wife and the salesman that we met

:35:52.:35:59.

working undercover at Virgo. In August, 2011, Amajit and his wife

:36:00.:36:06.

pleaded guilty to 25. Counts of fraud. Amajit was sentenced to 18

:36:07.:36:14.

months in prison. The other two received suspended sentences and

:36:15.:36:16.

community work. This is one of the most biggest and

:36:17.:36:22.

serious cases we have dealt with. They have been deliberately

:36:23.:36:26.

defrauding some of the most elderly and vulnerable in society. We are

:36:27.:36:29.

pleased to have been able to bring it to a successful conclusion.

:36:30.:36:35.

What about Mark Mars Bar Murphy, I hear you cry? Coming up next, the

:36:36.:36:44.

employee of the month, he is about to find the real meaning of Murphy's

:36:45.:36:48.

Law. It does not look good.

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Pensions and we are joined by Michelle Crammel and Sarah Penells,

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welcome to you, we have had many people getting in touch about the

:37:07.:37:11.

new pensions freedoms. Michelle, people have cashed in almost ?5

:37:12.:37:16.

billion. In your view, are the pension freedoms a good or a bad

:37:17.:37:21.

thing? What we hear is that the way that people are retiring is

:37:22.:37:24.

changing. Therefore, having more options about

:37:25.:37:28.

how to access your pension pot, we think it is a good thing.

:37:29.:37:32.

So you can get your hands on the money. Fergus, it is a good thing? I

:37:33.:37:37.

would be more guarded. I think that the system needed to be changed. Too

:37:38.:37:44.

rigid and inflexible. But it is a little too much too soon. There was

:37:45.:37:48.

a political element to the changes made it was about politics and

:37:49.:37:52.

bringing money into the revenue. That ?5 billion you have spoken

:37:53.:37:58.

about has probably brought in about ?5 million in tax to HR BC. But it

:37:59.:38:06.

has been badly explained and people are confused. We need to help people

:38:07.:38:10.

with the options. And Sarah, there is a potential for

:38:11.:38:16.

scams, for fraudsters to target people? Rightly so. And from the

:38:17.:38:21.

moment that this was announced we saw the increase in the scammers.

:38:22.:38:25.

They are taking advantage of people's confuse. In the run-up to

:38:26.:38:30.

the pension freedoms, they were offering people a free government

:38:31.:38:35.

review, as people had heard there was something free, that is how they

:38:36.:38:39.

were falling it. Since the pension freedoms have come in, it is more

:38:40.:38:42.

about getting people to transfer their money in the hopes of getting

:38:43.:38:47.

a better return but in the worst cases the money is disappearing

:38:48.:38:50.

entirely. In research, the figures were

:38:51.:38:54.

something like ?9 million taken in a few months. What kind of calls are

:38:55.:38:57.

you getting from people worried about this? People are getting cold

:38:58.:39:03.

calls, told that moving a pension is a good idea to do. We would say to

:39:04.:39:08.

be wary if you get a cold call, talking about your pension. In

:39:09.:39:12.

particular, like Sarah said, they are hanging on to the Government

:39:13.:39:16.

initiative. The Government Pension Service does not call you unless you

:39:17.:39:20.

have arranged an appointment. If they say that it is a good indicator

:39:21.:39:26.

it is a scam. And the scammers will put pressure on you to sign pipe

:39:27.:39:32.

work, take your time. Don't be put under pressure to sign paperwork.

:39:33.:39:36.

You have time to think about. You can call the pensions advisory

:39:37.:39:41.

service. We can talk you through what to check before signing away

:39:42.:39:44.

details of your pension. Thank you. That is a taste of the advice that

:39:45.:39:50.

we are giving out as the questions and the answers continue on the red

:39:51.:39:54.

Boulton after Watchdog finishes. So keep the questions coming.

:39:55.:40:01.

Now, Amazon opened their first physical book shop in America. How

:40:02.:40:05.

does it work. What a shop? Yeah? You go there,

:40:06.:40:10.

look at things, take them off the shelf, if you like them you buy

:40:11.:40:14.

them. If not, you put them back and leave the shop.

:40:15.:40:18.

Of course, millions of customers online can't do that, if you don't

:40:19.:40:22.

like an item you return it. That's the deal. So why would Amazon

:40:23.:40:34.

cut you off for doing that? When you shop online with Amazon, there are

:40:35.:40:39.

rules that you and the company must obey. Rules such as the consumers

:40:40.:40:44.

right act that allows customer to reject a faulty item for a full

:40:45.:40:51.

refund and Amazon's own terms and conditions, however, it seems that

:40:52.:40:54.

Amazon is playing by another set of rules. Time to play the Amazon game,

:40:55.:41:00.

a game where it appears that the rules are made up as you go along.

:41:01.:41:05.

Sounds like fun. I tell you what, it is impossible to understand.

:41:06.:41:11.

Most of the time buying something online is straightforward. Rolling

:41:12.:41:14.

the dice, and the majority of cases you get what you pay for and the

:41:15.:41:20.

item delivered to your door. But occasionally things go missing,

:41:21.:41:23.

arrive damaged or are not as described. In those situations,

:41:24.:41:28.

Amazon gives a refund or replacement. But if you return too

:41:29.:41:33.

many of the items you order, the odds could be stacked against you.

:41:34.:41:39.

John from Leicester has been a loyal customer for ten years, ordering

:41:40.:41:44.

about 06 item as year. But when several DVDs he ordered turned up

:41:45.:41:50.

damaged he requested replacements. It was more of an inconvenience to

:41:51.:41:57.

me than them. Each time Amazon offered a

:41:58.:42:01.

replacement. Bun then he was warned that the volume of refunds requested

:42:02.:42:06.

was in their opinion high. They said they could not guarantee further

:42:07.:42:10.

replacements and then they threatened to close his account.

:42:11.:42:14.

As far as John was concerned, the message was clear. Carry on sending

:42:15.:42:20.

things back, it would be game over. When I received the e-mail from

:42:21.:42:25.

Amazon, saying I returned too many things, I felt unvalid.

:42:26.:42:29.

Look online, there were many more complaints. So is there anything

:42:30.:42:33.

buried in the terms and the conditions that specifies how many

:42:34.:42:38.

returns you can make? In a word, no. So surely we are within our rights

:42:39.:42:43.

to return things? Amazon has clear rules on returning an item. But the

:42:44.:42:48.

terms and the conditions do not contain a single warning that they

:42:49.:42:51.

may close your account for returning what they decide is too many items.

:42:52.:43:00.

I went to meet consumer lawyer to see if I could be helped to

:43:01.:43:05.

understand this situation. What rights do rehave were returning

:43:06.:43:10.

items? There are regulations in place to allow 14 days in which to

:43:11.:43:14.

return the goods. The point of this is to give the opportunity to look

:43:15.:43:18.

at the goods, to see if they were how they were described, if it was

:43:19.:43:23.

what you were looking for. Amazon, although the consumers have 14 days

:43:24.:43:28.

to return the goods, Amazon have a generous returns policy. But what is

:43:29.:43:33.

the point of having it, if you are saying to people that they are using

:43:34.:43:37.

it too much. While the company allows some

:43:38.:43:43.

customers to play the Amazon game, others are disqualified. This is

:43:44.:43:48.

John Chapman, a retired computer operator. An Amazon customers since

:43:49.:43:58.

2006. He received a warning #50e78 after requesting replacement, for a

:43:59.:44:02.

mattress that had been lost by the courier.

:44:03.:44:06.

I said that everything I had done, every item returned was not my

:44:07.:44:10.

fault. But Amazon were not interested in what I had to say. The

:44:11.:44:14.

implication to me was that they thought that I was committing some

:44:15.:44:19.

sort of fraud. Despite five e-mails explaining what

:44:20.:44:23.

had gone wrong. Amazon ignored the appeals. In July, judging that he

:44:24.:44:28.

had broken the secret limit on returns and blocked the account.

:44:29.:44:35.

It did not matter how many e-mails I sent to Amazon, they ignored any

:44:36.:44:38.

pleas. All that I got was pro forma

:44:39.:44:44.

e-mails, saying that the account was closed, warmest regards, Amazon.

:44:45.:44:51.

By closing his account Amazon blocked John from using gift cards,

:44:52.:45:03.

leaving him ?25 out of pocket. You also lose access to the Amazon

:45:04.:45:07.

Kindle library. James has been shopping with Amazon for years,

:45:08.:45:14.

often buying 20 items a month. It got to a point I was ordering so

:45:15.:45:17.

frequently it was a running joke with the delivery guy, who would

:45:18.:45:21.

bring what I ordered the night before and when he left said, I will

:45:22.:45:25.

see you tomorrow. A couple of times I had to return items. I bought a

:45:26.:45:39.

nick on camera. Despite Nikon admitting people have had problems

:45:40.:45:45.

with the same camera James returned, his account was blocked. It was a

:45:46.:45:51.

blunt, strongly worded e-mail. Not a massive amount of detail. I jumped

:45:52.:45:56.

on the phone. To Alison customer support to be told they could not

:45:57.:46:01.

speak to me. I had basically -- Amazon. I had basically been

:46:02.:46:06.

excommunicated from Amazon. And he also lost his Amazon Prime

:46:07.:46:13.

membership. Despite paying ?79 for the service, he did not get a penny

:46:14.:46:20.

back stop in James' case it seems unduly harsh. Is that fair practice

:46:21.:46:25.

from Amazon? I do not think it is fair. They are living by a hidden

:46:26.:46:32.

set of rules. Amazon then decided to block his brother's account. They

:46:33.:46:35.

live at the same address and Amazon told his brother they were banning

:46:36.:46:39.

him because his account was linked to James 's. I received an e-mail

:46:40.:46:46.

the account had been closed and when I attempted to appeal I was told

:46:47.:46:49.

there was nothing I could do and they decided they would not reopen

:46:50.:46:54.

my count. Despite their attempts to get accounts reopened, John, James

:46:55.:46:59.

and Jerry's accounts are still closed and they still do not

:47:00.:47:06.

understand the rules they have supposedly broken. Millions of

:47:07.:47:09.

people enjoy playing the Amazon game but in this game there is only one

:47:10.:47:12.

winner and that is hardly playing fair, is it?

:47:13.:47:18.

Amazon do not think they were being unfair and said it only closes

:47:19.:47:22.

accounts in a tiny fraction of cases after reviewing them and working

:47:23.:47:26.

with customers to resolve problems. But it says when it identifies what

:47:27.:47:30.

it calls extreme abuse it will shut them down. It stands by its decision

:47:31.:47:35.

to close John Chapman, James and Jerry's accounts.

:47:36.:47:42.

Flights between Sharm el-Sheikh and the UK are on hold with David

:47:43.:47:46.

Cameron saying the Russian airliner was more likely than not downed by a

:47:47.:47:51.

terrorist bomb. It is worrying lots of people. I am joined by Simon who

:47:52.:47:56.

knows as much about the travel industry as anyone I know. Our view

:47:57.:48:02.

Amy in Leighton buzzard is due to travel to Sharm el-Sheikh. Now, like

:48:03.:48:06.

thousands, she does not want to go. What can she do? Her options are

:48:07.:48:12.

limited at this stage. The advice the government put out at 5pm

:48:13.:48:16.

yesterday, I have never seen anything like it. They said they

:48:17.:48:20.

think Sharm el-Sheikh is safe but they do not trust security at the

:48:21.:48:24.

airport and do not want anybody flying in and out. The airlines have

:48:25.:48:29.

been telling me, easyJet are flying in seven planes tomorrow. Monarch

:48:30.:48:33.

airlines flying out another five to bring people back will stop nothing

:48:34.:48:37.

will take people out for another week. If you are booked to travel

:48:38.:48:44.

after that, the companies say normal terms and conditions apply. It seems

:48:45.:48:48.

crazy if there is an incident like this, will they send another team to

:48:49.:48:52.

another airport if that happens? We have never been here before, but

:48:53.:48:57.

there will be people watching now thinking, I went to this airport and

:48:58.:49:02.

it was poor security, so it could multiply. In the, I would sit tight.

:49:03.:49:08.

There are a lot of people booked to booked to travel to Sharm el-Sheikh,

:49:09.:49:13.

Christmas, New Year, February half term, thinking they are not sure.

:49:14.:49:17.

Personally I would go, it is a great destination. Tour operators are

:49:18.:49:23.

likely to change things soon but they do not have too. Passengers

:49:24.:49:29.

returning only bringing back hand luggage. It is unprecedented. What

:49:30.:49:35.

you will have been told, you are allowed to take depending on the

:49:36.:49:42.

airline, one or two bags this size. That is because they do not want to

:49:43.:49:46.

open the hold. They will be sealed on the aircraft when they leave the

:49:47.:49:53.

UK and security staff will make sure they are not opened. It has to

:49:54.:49:57.

contain your valuables. Everything else will be shipped out by the RAF

:49:58.:50:02.

in a week, and then delivered to your house by career. Do you think

:50:03.:50:08.

the way we travel will be affected? I hope it does not mean that people

:50:09.:50:13.

will not go to Egypt, Morocco, Turkey. I think we will find people

:50:14.:50:18.

will not commit so many months in advance, but might leave it a couple

:50:19.:50:23.

of weeks, see what happens. The final reckoning for Virgo health

:50:24.:50:28.

care and their top salesman Mark Murphy. His apprentice is getting

:50:29.:50:32.

all the pearls of wisdom, unfortunately for mark, he does not

:50:33.:50:38.

realise he is getting them like David Bowie, in Sound and vision.

:50:39.:50:42.

Otherwise how would we hear him say this about the honourable customer

:50:43.:50:45.

he just pressured into parting with thousands?

:50:46.:51:03.

And then do this voice... Virgo health care is no more. Mark

:51:04.:51:08.

Murphy soon started working at Gemini Healthcare selling his

:51:09.:51:12.

speciality, mobility products. You can take the salesman out of rogue

:51:13.:51:16.

traders, but you cannot take the road trader out of a salesman.

:51:17.:51:23.

Gemini have used four names in 18 months, switching identities to

:51:24.:51:26.

avoid paying back customers. They were calling themselves Gemini

:51:27.:51:31.

Chairs when Mark Murphy knocked on this door. If I met your dad,

:51:32.:51:39.

described to me what I would have seen. The picture walking into my

:51:40.:51:46.

dad's house, you would have seen a frail old man, mentally and

:51:47.:51:50.

physically. He was almost blind. That would have been evident. As

:51:51.:51:55.

soon as you walked through the door you would see that. Richard found

:51:56.:51:59.

out Mark Murphy sold his dad a new bed at the cost of 2500.

:52:00.:52:06.

The fact that it was perfectly adequate what he got was not old,

:52:07.:52:14.

alarms bells rang. Did you get information about what had taken

:52:15.:52:19.

place from your dad? All I got out of him was he signed the paper, he

:52:20.:52:23.

wanted to get the man out of his house, those were his words. Richard

:52:24.:52:29.

immediately attempted to contact Gemini Chairs to cancel the order. I

:52:30.:52:35.

sent e-mails, I sent them cancellation letters by recorded

:52:36.:52:41.

delivery. I made probably 40, 50 phone calls to the company. The

:52:42.:52:46.

phone was never answered. My e-mails and letters were never acknowledged.

:52:47.:52:52.

George was an elderly man with dementia who was almost blind. Yet

:52:53.:52:55.

Mark Murphy walked away with a cheque apparently written by him.

:52:56.:53:01.

Murphy had actually written the check because my dad was not capable

:53:02.:53:05.

of writing a cheque because of the way he was. I checked through the

:53:06.:53:10.

bank and they cashed the cheque on the same day. What happened with the

:53:11.:53:16.

bed? We never saw the bed, nothing ever arrived. Basically, Murphy took

:53:17.:53:24.

?2500 off my dad and we never got any goods. Crimes like these do not

:53:25.:53:28.

just have a financial effect on the victim. Two years after meeting Mark

:53:29.:53:35.

Murphy, George passed away. Looking back, it was getting towards the end

:53:36.:53:40.

of my father's life and I think it was a serious blow to my dad, being

:53:41.:53:44.

90, having to go through that is, and that still haunts me as to how

:53:45.:53:50.

somebody could do that to an old person. It is something I will never

:53:51.:53:57.

forget, it sticks in my mind. I think about it an awful lot. Mark

:53:58.:54:04.

Murphy's murky dealings did not end there. In August 2014 he was sent to

:54:05.:54:11.

prison for 15 months, the stealing hundreds of pounds elderly and

:54:12.:54:17.

vulnerable women in their own homes. Whilst he was behind bars there was

:54:18.:54:22.

a big investigation going on into Murphy's dealings. It was led by PC

:54:23.:54:28.

Alan Reeves and during his investigation he watched our film.

:54:29.:54:34.

What was it like, watching footage? It was abhorrent. I could not

:54:35.:54:38.

believe what I was watching. It showed me the kind of person he was

:54:39.:54:42.

and how victims in this had no chance. During a raid on Gemini

:54:43.:54:54.

Healthcare offices Alan discovered the company pursue people between 70

:54:55.:54:58.

and 90 years old and he found prompt cards which gave a worrying insight

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into how vulnerable people were targeted. The card would give the

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impression, although I would not directly say, they were something to

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do with social services. So people think somebody is coming to give me

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something for nothing. That is the impression they wanted to give. When

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Mr Murphy turns up at the address in a prearranged appointment, half the

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battle is done. Invariably what Mark Murphy would then do is route around

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the house. The PC identified two other victims alongside Georgiou had

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been precious old mobility Aids but never received the goods. He had

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enough evidence to take Mark Murphy and the proprietor of the company to

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court. They denied it and at the end of the trial, the jury came back and

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found them guilty. Three counts of fraud each and what I have never

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seen before, the jury were out 14 minutes. It vindicated my thoughts

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around this and obviously the jury has seen through Mr Murphy when he

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gave evidence. Today Mark Murphy was sentenced to five and a half years

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in prison and the judge imposed a criminal behaviour order, and also a

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timetable for a proceeds of crime order to make sure that as much of

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the money he took from the old and vulnerable is recovered and put to

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good use. It is not a face you will see for some time. But one you need

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to commit to memory. In the rogues gallery and also in prison, Mark

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Mars bar Murphy. Thank you so much for your e-mails

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and text messages. The Kwik Fit story, our investigation showing

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some garage is charging us for fitting tyres with nitrogen were

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filling them with air. Said James I worked for many years at Kwik Fit

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and nitrogen was always charged but rarely put into the tyres. Keep your

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receipt and get your money back. And a tweet to say Amazon shutdown my

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family's account for too many returns with no warning. And people

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not happy about chocolate. Liz said she is annoyed about Cadbury and

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their shrinking products. She has noticed more examples of shrinking

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chocolates and has the wrappers to prove it.

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Keep sending your story. You can go to the website and write to us. Next

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time how safe are the camera drones flying around above our heads?

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Some are crashing. In Rogue Traders, the phone scam providing a

:57:40.:57:44.

life in the sun for its boss. And more advice on the pension scams,

:57:45.:57:49.

missing money and everything involved in pension freedoms. Press

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the red button and a new screen should pop up. Watchdog will be back

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in two weeks at 8pm. Until then, good night.

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