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Tonight - we've caught one of Britain's best known

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companies promising a service it can't deliver.

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Whether it's big names, false claims, or fraudsters

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after your money - this is Watchdog:

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Hello, welcome back to Watchdog - live from our studio in Salford.

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And what a stir we caused with the stories that kicked off

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Yeah, we went global with headlines hitting Malibu to Milton Keynes -

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and thousands of you have been in touch since.

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We'll have the latest on some of those stories.

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And we've plenty more to get you fired up about tonight.

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Apprentice legend, Nick Hewer has been asking if the big banks

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are there for you when you get scammed.

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As one couple did to the tune of ?8,000, and it's something

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we could all fall for, but it seems some banks

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The way Santander treated us was worse than the fall. I was in tears

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on the phone because I just wanted someone to help us.

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Plus I'll be chasing down more rogue traders -

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this week going after an emergency plumbing business who bring

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their own emergency, charging like a wounded rhino.

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And Nikki and our swab mob team have been at it again.

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No, really if you're in a hotel you really might not

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We found serious failings in the way some of our major hotel chains

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It's a bacteria we really don't want to be coming across. We certainly

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don't want to be finding it in bathrooms, where guests are staying.

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As usual, the team behind me would love to hear what you've got

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So you can email us - at [email protected].

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But first tonight, a subject we know lots of you feel

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Broadband speeds that aren't what you were promised.

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We know there's millions of you out there frustrated

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Hello everyone. Hello! That was loud.

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And a good few of you are upset with one company in particular...

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Steph is going to be talking to the CEO here in a few minutes.

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But he'll need to explain why the speeds his company delivers can

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Superb speeds, ultrafast, speeds that start where rivals finish. It's

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the key message Virgin Media likes to ram home about its broadband.

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This is what it feels like to be the fastest.

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And it was the promise of high speeds that convinced Mike from

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Barnsley to sign up to Virgin's full house bundle, or which for ?55 a

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month combined cable TV, phone and broadband, but Mike says he rarely

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had the speed he was promised. The service was never what Virgin said

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it was going to be. And he was given a particular reason for why that

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might be. Virgin sent out an engineer who said we have high

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utilisation issues in this area. He said the speeds will pick up and the

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high utilisation problem will get sorted out, but to this day, it's

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never happened. Plenty of other Virgin customers who have contacted

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us have had their problems blamed on high utilisation as well. I was told

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utilisation was the issue. The term they used was utilisation structural

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utilisation. But what do all these excuses really mean? In effect,

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Virgin seems to be admitting it signed up to many customers in some

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areas. All of this putting pressure on the fibre network, slowing down

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speeds for those sharing that cable. I have come to Manchester to meet a

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family who are really having a nightmare with this.

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Win and rocky signed up to a 200 megabits a second package after

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being assured they received the top speeds advertised, but for months

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they have also been struggling with speeds that at times can be 90%

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slower, which is particularly annoying for the couple's son, who

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has Crohn's disease. What are we playing? Rocket league. You like to

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use the Internet quite a lot? Just. What you doing on it, apart playing

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games? I go on like social media apps and talk to my friends, yeah,

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stuff like that. That's really important to you? Yes. You don't get

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to go out that much because you don't feel well. Are you going to

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get it working? It's not connecting. It's not connecting, is that normal?

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Yes. That's annoying, I was well up for a game of that.

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However cheesed off he might be, it's nothing compare to his mum and

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dad, the ones footing the bill. What have you done about it?

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From about January onwards, since signing the contract, I've been

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nonstop on the phone. It's been horrendous. You were told the

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problem was over utilisation? Yes, I was told by one of the engineers

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when he came out to change the box. Have you been offered a fixed date?

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We have, first it was the 31st of August, then they changed it to

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November the 22nd. What ideally, for you, would you want to see happen? I

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just want it to be better. I want the kids to be happy, that they can

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go on their gadgets whenever they want.

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Five minutes up the road, it's a similar story at the home of Steven

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Sofia, where slower than expected broadband has been a real problem,

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because both Steven and teenage son Adam are avid gamers, and Sofia is

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currently studying for a university degree.

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We use to get a really reliable service, but about a year ago it

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started to fall apart. We started to get really significant slowdown

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after 6pm. I'm studying, so I need to be online, and I needed be

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uninterrupted. After getting speeds of just 5

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megabits per second at times, they decided to end their Virgin Media

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contract, but not before curiosity got the better of them, and Steven

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hatched a plan to see if the company might still be making promises he

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knew it couldn't keep. I took it myself to go into the

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store in Manchester and pretend to be moving into the area, pretended

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to be buying this house. Did you wear a hat a moustache? I wanted to!

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Did you? LAUGHTER You saw it might make you stand out.

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The trench coat was a bit too and believable. I went in pretending to

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be moving into the area, asked them what the maximum speed was but I

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could get in this area. They said they are now offering 300 megabytes

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to some customers. They said there might be some slowdown around

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tea-time but other than that, they said they don't have to offer a

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minimum speed guarantee because it doesn't slow down. You said that's

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brilliant, but inside what were you saying to yourself? You dirty liars!

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Basically. I knew that wasn't the case. So was this just a one-off

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mistake, or could Virgin Media be routinely promising new customers

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speeds it knows it can't deliver? To find out, we went undercover.

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First, we picked houses in areas where Virgin Media has admitted to

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customers that there is a problem with high utilisation. Over the

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course of the week we measured the exact speed each of those addresses

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was getting on one of the company's fastest packages. Then, posing as

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new customers, we meet ten visits and phone calls to Virgin, to see if

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the company's promises matched up to the actual speeds we'd So what speed

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would we get about property? Virgin Media is signed up to offer

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an's broadband code of practice, which means it agrees to provide

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customers with realistic speeds that are as accurate as possible for

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their address. But, that's not what we got.

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First, we gave an address in a high utilisation area in Stevenage, and

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here's the speed they said we could expect.

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Well, he couldn't have been clearer. No lower than 140 megabits per

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second, but our tests at that address showed speed as low as 5

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megabits a second at peak hours. Not a great start. And things were

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no better at the next store. We gave an address in Merseyside, where

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great things were promised. Really? We didn't even get close to

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that 150 he was promising, and we've been measuring speeds they're all

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week, which even went as low as 10 megabits per second. We went to

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three other stores, and none of them gave us realistic speeds either. And

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when we asked their call centres, we heard more of the same claims, even

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when Virgin's Brett said they couldn't provide exact data for our

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address, they were still happy to give estimates that were completely

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unrealistic. Take this call, where we posed as a customer in a

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high-capacity part of Luton. In reality, our tests found speeds

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as low as just 6 megabits per second that this house, not the 160

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claimed. So, in the ten visits and phone calls we made to Virgin, while

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we were usually told things might slowdown at peak times, not once

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were we given anything close to a realistic speed for the areas we

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were calling about. And that's especially surprising as Virgin

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Media's CEO Tom Mockridge very publicly stated the industry needs

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to clean up its act when it comes to advertising speeds, saying that

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consumers should know what they are paying for.

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So, Tom Mockridge, over to you, why is your company offering speeds it

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knows it can't deliver? Let's find out, with us is Virgin's

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chief executive, Tom Mockridge. Thank you for joining us. We saw

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more clearly transparency is something that is important to you,

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but your sales agents haven't been transparent. Why are they promising

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speeds you can't deliver? First of all, good evening staff, thank you

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for having me here. I think there were some very good points raised in

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that video, and I acknowledge the issues. Basically, we're suffering

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from growing pains. The network is growing exponentially with more and

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more people using Internet. We are growing number of customers we have

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and investing 3 billion to expand the network, to compete with BT. In

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combination, means in some areas we have fallen short of what we should

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have done. I think you have drawn attention to that very well. We have

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gone back into those areas and each of the hub sites you brought

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particular attention to in that video, we have gone and made

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improvements so they do deliver the speed. You admit you have some

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problems in some areas. Why are you still signing up new customers in

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these areas and telling them, promising them, they will get speeds

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you can't deliver Marcelo that's a good point and frankly we shouldn't.

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We do have a process, that if the speed is and what it should be, we

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take those residences or geographies out of the sales process. It wasn't

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tight enough, it existed but it wasn't tight enough. We have

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tightened it up so that problem doesn't rear car. Equally, I have

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written to all of our salespeople to remind them of their obligation to

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make it clear to customers the points you made there, that peak

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time capacity might not always be exactly what was promised, and

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equally that we have tightened up to make sure we can't sell to those

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areas where we do need to invest more. You are clearly making

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changes, which I'm sure lots of customers will be relieved to hear

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about. Can you ever guarantee they will get the speeds? What we are

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hearing is very specific promises being made, and they are lying,

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aren't they, the sales agents? Some have been overly exuberant, that's

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why I have taken action to write to them all. But we can't guarantee.

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The network usage is growing... You can't guarantee that your promising

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people? We don't guarantee, we do stay up to, you pointed out yourself

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that we made clear that at peak time when everyone is on the Internet,

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people are downloading video, great programmes at this, this does put a

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lot of pressure on the network. We are investing more than any other

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company in the UK. We are investing without subsidy, 3 billion in our

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project, likely to extend the network. If you are investing, you

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are saying you can't guarantee, can't ever guarantee a speed, can

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people leave a contract without penalty if you cannot give them the

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speed they should be getting? What we do with our customers or the time

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in any given week we have 100,000 customers... Yes or no, can they

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leave their contract? We deal with each case on its own merit. On its

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own -- yes or no? Sometimes people leave the route on the side... Some

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will be able to leave? Sometimes people leave, of course they leave

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Virgin Media. Without penalty? We discuss it with each customer on its

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merits, but we treat people absolutely fairly. Tom Mockridge,

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thank you for your time. Well, Wayne and Rocky,

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who we saw in the film, is with us. You must be thrilled to be

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getting a better service? Well done for getting in touch! Glad

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we can help. One problem sorted. Still plenty contacting us with

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problems. So Andrew Ferguson from consumer

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website Think Broadband We'll start you off with one

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from Dispesh over here. Tell us about the problem. So I got

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promised between 100 and 150 meg. I got speeds of five and ten at most

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and it was difficult to load a Google page. Basic stuff, you are

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not able to do. Andrew, what can he do, is he legally entitled to leave

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his contract? Given the big gap in speed, speeds from 150 down to ten,

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it's a massive gap. Yeah, clearly, there is a good reason and it should

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be very much the case as the CEO said, we will deal with cases. It's

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all individual, until you chase up with the company, and tell them to

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escalate your complaint they won't do anything. Do the checks and the

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speed tests, get the information. We have a lot more questions coming in.

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You are here for us tonight on Facebook live. You go to our

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Facebook website to tackle your broadband queries. It's on Facebook

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now. Ready for Rouge Traders? Yes! Thank goodness we got the right

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answer there. A business claims to be there for you in an emergency,

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but it is waiting to turn your emergency into a financial crisis.

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Leicester has been home so some terrific success stories in recent

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times. Obviously, there is the football. Let's not forget they also

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found a King under a car park. In fact, it was in this very car park

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that King Richard III's body was discovered buried under the ground.

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It took some heavy digging by the team involved to establish, not only

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that he was who they thought he was, but, crucially, that he was the man

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in charge. Which brings me neatly to

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Leicester-based plumbing company Faster Response.

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Because they've been causing a few Winters of discontent of their own.

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And we have had to do serious digging as tracking down the men

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behind the operation has been no mean feat. Billing themselves as an

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emergency callout plumbing service, they've been laying waste to the

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bank accounts of elderly customers across the Midlands for a little

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while now. The company was originally called Crimson

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Maintenance. Then in 2016, the company changed its name to Faster

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Response. And we kept getting complaints about them. As did

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trading standards. So they told them to... Stop it! And in January,

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Russell and Liam signed an agreement promising to change their bad ways.

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Well done boys. Then, in what appears to be a coins dental turn of

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events they resigned as directors of Faster Response the next month,

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February. But here's the thing, the complaints about Faster Response

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kept coming and they followed a similar pattern. Overcharging for

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crazy simple stuff, and shoddy workmanship. When Russell and Liam

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resigned their directorships, they handed over to these guys.

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We don't have photos of these two because they're quite tricky to pin

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down. The company itself seems a bit shy, even in its adverts. In the

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Yellow Pages, for instance, the name is nowhere to be seen, almost as if

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they don't want people to know who they're calling out.

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Eleanor didn't know which plumber she had rung after discovering a

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serious leak in her water tank late one night in March. She had gone

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straight to the Yellow Pages and called the number on a prominent

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advert that seemed to be just what she needed. It hadn't got a name but

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it was marked as a 24-hour emergency callout. Without knowing it, Eleanor

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had called Faster Response. Two hours later a plumber arrived. He

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told me there was a part of the ballcock that had deteriorated and

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there was a leak in a pipe. The plumber told Eleanor he wouldn't be

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able to complete the job that night as he needed parts but before he

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left he called the office who demanded payment upfront. I couldn't

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believe it. ?512. That was if you paid in cash. The other option was

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to pay by card. If you did that, you had to pay VAT on top. So they gave

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you an option to pay effectively VAT-free for cash. Yes. But more

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expensive with a card? Yes. Wow. Eleanor paid by card, bringing the

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price up to ?614. The next evening the plumber returned and fitted the

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new parts, the whole job had taken less than two hours, but before he

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left he asked for a further payment to cover the return visit. For the

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second night I was charged another ?375 on top of the ?614 I had just

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paid. Hold on, that's nearly ?1,000. It is. Under two hours' work. And

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the only parts that had been fitted are minimal. Yes. That's ridiculous.

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I nearly dropped when they told me the price. The next day, worried

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about what she had been charged, Eleanor called another plumber to

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come and inspect the work. They said that Faster Response had replaced

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one part unnecessarily, the work had been done badly and should have cost

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no more than ?200. I regret that I called them. They're very dishonest

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in my opinion. It seems like this would be the right time to check out

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the company's work ourselves. We have a house, we have an actress.

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And we have got an expert. Mike Griffin. Our knight in steel toe

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caps who will damage our toilet handle. Most plumbers will charge a

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minimum charge plus the cost of materials. You can buy a handle and

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set for ?10 or less and fix it inside of 20, 30 minutes. This is

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the sort of basic job that someone who has come out of plumbing college

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will be able to tackle easily. We called the number for Faster

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Response to a job that should cost around ?60 to ?10000 to fix. Hello,

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the toilet -- ?100. Once again they seem to be avoiding using the name

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Faster Response and give no clue about what they might be charging

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but here we are, plumber Zach is in the house wearing a shirt that says

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Faster Response. He is part of the plumbing team that's brought misery

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to the Midlands. Will he be causing a headache in our home? We will be

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seeing Zach do his thing possibly illegally in a few minutes. And that

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price, not very nice. Let's catch up on a couple

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of our stories from last week. Loads of messages and people talking

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about smart metres and problems installed. So many messages, thank

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you so much. We heard of a similar experience to ones we saw in our

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report about smart metres. Matt Taylor says he had a smart

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meter installed and the electrics Karen Stott's 89-year-old mum

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in law had a gas leak And Darren Butland says his

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mum was left with gas Well, the Government department

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responsible has told us that: "Ensuring the safe roll out of smart

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meters is the number one priority of the programme and safety

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is continuously reviewed". But keep your comments

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on that story coming. Lots of you told us you're not

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convinced the company has changed the way it

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allocates its seats. Splitting people up unless they've

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paid for reserved seats. Martyn Jackson says his group of 12

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were all allocated a middle seat on a different row,

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despite there being plenty He calls it,

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"Absolutely disgusting". On the show last week Ryanair's Head

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of Marketing insisted there's I would say it is random, that's

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what we call it, it's random allocated seating.

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People on social media weren't convinced.

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And Ryanair's been pretty active on Twitter about this too.

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It says when free seats open it keeps the window and aisle seats

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back for passengers who pay to reserve them. I called them to ask.

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You are saying that you hold the window and aisle seat and you are

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likely to end up in a middle seat. To be separated. It means it's not

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random, doesn't it? They wouldn't give me an answer on the phone. On

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e-mail Ryanair are still insisting it is random. But it also says if

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you haven't paid you should not expect to sit together.

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Doesn't sound random, does it? Keep your thoughts coming in on

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that. Watchdog - once we get our teeth

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in we don't let go! Next tonight, a horribly convincing

:25:00.:25:02.

scam you need to know Who else would we get

:25:03.:25:04.

to tell this story but Lord Most of us like to think we're

:25:05.:25:21.

pretty good at spotting a fake. But as scams become more sophisticated

:25:22.:25:24.

it can be much harder to distinguish what is real and what isn't.

:25:25.:25:30.

And I've nearly fallen prey a few times. I've had fraudsters call me

:25:31.:25:36.

with dodgy investments, I even had one call me posing as my bank.

:25:37.:25:41.

Luckily, I managed to spot those scams before they got hold of my

:25:42.:25:46.

money and now I campaign to raise awareness about fraud so that people

:25:47.:25:54.

don't get caught out. Paul and Helen contacted Watchdog after receiving a

:25:55.:25:57.

convincing text message that wasn't what it seemed. Tell me about this

:25:58.:26:03.

text message. What did it say? I received a text message from

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Santander saying money had been taken out of my account and to call

:26:07.:26:10.

a number to confirm whether it was a genuine transaction. Why did you

:26:11.:26:14.

think the text came from the bank? Because it had come from a text

:26:15.:26:18.

stream from Santander. It made me believe that it was a genuine text

:26:19.:26:24.

message. The fraudsters had found a way to disguise their number so that

:26:25.:26:30.

it showed up on Paul's phone as exactly the same as Santander, a

:26:31.:26:36.

method known as number spoofing. So their message appeared here, right

:26:37.:26:40.

in the middle of real messages from Santander here.

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You can understand why Paul believed it was real. So you called the

:26:46.:26:49.

number on the text. Got through, what made you think you were talking

:26:50.:26:55.

to the bank? He had already explained some previous

:26:56.:26:57.

transactions, asked me all the same security questions as when I

:26:58.:27:01.

previously phoned up. So I thought I was talking to the bank. Sadly, it

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wasn't. The fraudsters could use Paul's answers to access his

:27:08.:27:10.

account. Then, to get their hands on his money they made up a story of a

:27:11.:27:15.

failed mortgage payment he supposedly needed to reconfirm. That

:27:16.:27:21.

triggered a genuine text from Santander to Paul's phone containing

:27:22.:27:25.

the one-time pass code required for any such transaction. It's intended

:27:26.:27:29.

as a security check but with no reason to suspect he wasn't talking

:27:30.:27:34.

to his bank, Paul passed it on. People might wonder why you read

:27:35.:27:38.

that code out on the phone. It was explained as a code to confirm a

:27:39.:27:43.

previous transaction I made on my business account. When did you first

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think hello, I might not be talking to my bank? I didn't. It was only

:27:48.:27:54.

until I received a phone call from Santander later in the evening to

:27:55.:27:58.

explain that all my money had been transferred out of my account. I was

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shocked. I felt sick. ?8,000 had been cleared from his account. The

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financial conduct authority is clear that banks must refund money you

:28:12.:28:16.

have lost through fraud. But banks can refuse to pay if they can prove

:28:17.:28:21.

you have been grossly negligent. Santander refused to refund Paul

:28:22.:28:25.

because he had given out that one-time pass code. Even though he

:28:26.:28:29.

had been sure he was talking to his bank. They didn't seem to be that

:28:30.:28:34.

bothered that we had money taken out of our account. The way Santander

:28:35.:28:38.

treated us was worse than the fraud because it was frustrating, I was

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five months pregnant at the time. I was in tears on the phone. I just

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wanted someone to try to help us. Just how can fraudsters manage to

:28:48.:28:54.

hack into your text and make this So convincing? I have asked Tim, a text

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security expert to demonstrate how it might work. Tim, how do these

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fraudulent texts infiltrate text streams from that customer's bank?

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Let me show you. Our software here will launch a

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message as if it's coming from your bank. Hold on.

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Look at that. That's your bank sending a proper message. Now what I

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can do is I can use the same software the criminals will use in

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order to show you this one will look exactly the same.

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Here we go, look at that, you couldn't tell the difference, could

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you? Absolutely not, it looks the same. This kind of number spoofing

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scam has targeted customers of most of the big banks, but it does appear

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Santander customers are especially vulnerable. That's because while the

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majority of UK banks use text messages to communicate with their

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customers, Santander is the only bank to rely solely on text messages

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to verify transactions, and the same systems that fraudsters use to pose

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as your bank, can also be used to intercept genuine texts as well.

:30:14.:30:17.

Should banks be relying on text messages per verification? It's an

:30:18.:30:23.

old system, it was never designed for security. The one-time pass code

:30:24.:30:26.

base in June text messages better than just having a username and

:30:27.:30:30.

password, but when you are using SMS messages, you really don't know who

:30:31.:30:37.

it's come from. This electrician Adrian had ?27,000 stolen after

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responding to a text he also thought was from Santander, and it couldn't

:30:41.:30:47.

have happened at a worse time. It was two days before Christmas, it

:30:48.:30:51.

was terrible. We did have a wedding to plan for, and a honeymoon. I

:30:52.:30:55.

started crying, because I could see what had happened and I just felt

:30:56.:30:58.

sick. When Adrian spoke to what he

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believed was his bank, he is adamant he simply answered several security

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questions, but Santander refuse to refund the money he'd lost, claiming

:31:08.:31:13.

he'd been negligent by giving out a one-time pass code, something Adrian

:31:14.:31:16.

insists he did not do. What's more, he can prove he didn't

:31:17.:31:21.

respond to a genuine text Santander are sent at the time the fraudsters

:31:22.:31:27.

were stealing his cash. The bank had asked him to confirm the

:31:28.:31:32.

transaction. Without that confirmation, no money should have

:31:33.:31:35.

been transferred, but the bank did it anyway.

:31:36.:31:38.

It just leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, that something like that

:31:39.:31:43.

can happen so easily, without giving them all the information.

:31:44.:31:48.

Losing the money meant Adrian had to delay his honeymoon with pride Holly

:31:49.:31:54.

and borrow from friends and family. I've never been in debt and neither

:31:55.:31:57.

has Adrian, so to start life off like that, married life, is not

:31:58.:32:05.

really what you intended. So, is Santander are being fair in

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accusing customers of negligence? I have brought our research fraud

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investigator and expert witness to see what he thinks that really

:32:17.:32:19.

means. Santander are arguing that customers

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have been negligent in giving out their one-time password, what do you

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think? Gross negligence... This is not just about being callous, it's

:32:31.:32:34.

writing down the pin for your debit card on a piece of paper and keeping

:32:35.:32:39.

it in your wallet or purse with your credit card. In my view, what has

:32:40.:32:44.

happened in these cases is not gross negligence. They haven't given out

:32:45.:32:48.

their one-time pass code. They were disclosing it to Santander, as far

:32:49.:32:52.

as they were concerned. Here is the hundred thousand dollar question, as

:32:53.:32:57.

they say, should Santander give the customers their money back? Simple

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answer - yes. Their processes are extremely weak and they are being

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exploited by fraudsters. Santander should be refunding their money.

:33:09.:33:14.

We bank customers can never afford to relax, we must remain alert to

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spot these scams, but shouldn't the banks have a responsibility to

:33:21.:33:23.

ensure their systems are not open to abuse? Clearly a very convincing

:33:24.:33:28.

scam. Well, Santander's told us it

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dedicates substantial resources to protect customers from this kind

:33:30.:33:31.

of criminal activity, using robust technology, and continuously

:33:32.:33:34.

educating customers. It says it prevents the vast

:33:35.:33:37.

majority of fraud, but if a customer provides their passwords

:33:38.:33:40.

or passcodes to fraudsters, this can allow a criminal to make

:33:41.:33:43.

fraudulent payments. It says both our cases divulged

:33:44.:33:48.

vital personal details. But the bank accepts it could have

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handled Paul's case better and has And since then Paul has

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managed to retrieve ?4,000 from the bank the fraudulent

:33:54.:33:57.

transaction was paid into. The bank also points out

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that the cases in our film And it's given three rules

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to protect against fraud: Never download software or let

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people log on to your account And never enter your online banking

:34:12.:34:15.

details after clicking It's stressed it will never ask

:34:16.:34:20.

you to do any of these things. A solicitor specialising in fraud of

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exactly this type. I will be honest, I'm worried, I'm confused and

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worried now put I thought the banks were there to protect me from

:34:42.:34:45.

exactly this sort of thing. Where does the bank's responsibility to me

:34:46.:34:51.

as a customer to protect me begin and end? The payment service

:34:52.:34:55.

regulation puts the onus on banks to ensure they provide secure banking

:34:56.:35:00.

facilities. They should be infiltrated, copied or mimicked. If

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it is used to imitate a one-time pass code on a text message, that is

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the bank's responds pretty, they are failing and they should be

:35:08.:35:10.

protecting, that is their responsibility. If we're talking to

:35:11.:35:16.

third parties in giving away our information voluntarily, that's our

:35:17.:35:18.

responsibility. But if the bank allows our confidence to be

:35:19.:35:22.

breached, it's their failing. High-street banks are disappearing

:35:23.:35:26.

at a rate. A lot of us have no option but to use telephone and

:35:27.:35:30.

online banking services, using our mobiles. Is the reality that we are

:35:31.:35:33.

not up to speed and that these services that we have to use now are

:35:34.:35:38.

too difficult for a lot of people? I think it's a fair comment. I think

:35:39.:35:41.

we are pushed onto remote banking services a lot more and there's lots

:35:42.:35:45.

of ways that those be defrauded. We may need to take more responsibility

:35:46.:35:48.

at times but it's about being vigilant, taking a bit more time to

:35:49.:35:53.

think about who you are communicated with, what you're being asked to do

:35:54.:35:56.

and phone your bank if you are unsure. Thank you very much.

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Our swab mob checked in - to check them out.

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Back to tonight's Rogue Traders, where 24-hour callout plumbers

:36:11.:36:12.

Faster Response are highly skilled at performing emergency

:36:13.:36:16.

We've invited one of their oppos into our house full of cameras.

:36:17.:36:22.

Will they use it to get a hold of our money?

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Our expert Mike has set a fault which should cost no more than ?100

:36:30.:36:38.

to fix and has settled into the hide. Faster Response plumber Zach

:36:39.:36:42.

is on the loo in a flash and in a few minutes he had spotted the

:36:43.:36:45.

problem and is off to get a part. Half an hour later, Zak is back and

:36:46.:36:51.

ready to tend to the faulty toilet flush. Well, nearly ready. A

:36:52.:36:56.

screwdriver, you say question yes, I imagine as a plumber that could come

:36:57.:37:03.

in handy. Tools finally in hand, it takes just a few minutes to get the

:37:04.:37:07.

toilet flushing. Speedy. Now he just needs to tell us how much we owe

:37:08.:37:09.

him. Sorry? ! ?630?! Yes, please say that

:37:10.:37:16.

again. Oh, that's including VAT, right.

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Perfectly reasonable, for one hour's work.

:37:47.:37:52.

Doris hands over the money, but we still can't get over the fact this

:37:53.:38:31.

couldn't have cost more than ?100 to fix.

:38:32.:38:39.

Same-day service, well, that's good to know for future reference. It

:38:40.:38:46.

will be important later. Mike takes a look at what we got the

:38:47.:38:52.

nearly ?500. We've got a ?10 part, fitted to the

:38:53.:38:57.

toilet, and wages would have embarrassed a barrister in this day

:38:58.:39:02.

and age. I can't believe it. In the city where they dug up a king, we've

:39:03.:39:07.

have been charged a kings ransom for a throne. But the digging doesn't

:39:08.:39:12.

there. This dump any claims to be gas safe registered but the number

:39:13.:39:15.

they give doesn't check out. I mean, you don't just make a mistake with

:39:16.:39:20.

something like that. Normally we'd give a company the benefit of the

:39:21.:39:24.

doubt at this stage, but this is starting to feel like... Everybody

:39:25.:39:29.

deserves a second chance, otherwise we would never have got to see the

:39:30.:39:36.

film diplomat. Break out the tiny cameras, wiggling again. And that's

:39:37.:39:40.

what we did, and other house with another Mike Griffin fudge up, this

:39:41.:39:43.

time on the water tank. The fault I'm going to said today, I'm going

:39:44.:39:49.

to bend the arm of the valve ever so slightly, in order to allow extra

:39:50.:39:59.

water into the tank so the water will run out of the overthrow and

:40:00.:40:01.

trip outside. No more than ?100 to fix again, no matter how much of an

:40:02.:40:04.

emergency it is. And it turns out it's not much of an emergency as far

:40:05.:40:07.

as the company is concerned. We called at 11:30am. They richly said

:40:08.:40:11.

early afternoon, then for a crock, then five. What was the reason they

:40:12.:40:13.

gave before for being so expensive? I did say it would be important, and

:40:14.:40:23.

at 520 we are told engineer Richard will definitely not be able to make

:40:24.:40:27.

it out to our emergency today. They eventually tell us you will come in

:40:28.:40:32.

the morning instead. Richard finally arrived the next day, 20 minutes

:40:33.:40:33.

later than promised. Mike's watching the action unfold,

:40:34.:40:44.

and without even taking the lid off our tag or checking the ball valve,

:40:45.:40:45.

Richard is off to the shops. Stuff, like repairing stuff, for

:40:46.:40:56.

repairing things? Richard is actually off to buy a ball valve

:40:57.:41:00.

that shouldn't be too hard to find, it's a very common part to find and

:41:01.:41:03.

there is a plumber's merchant a few minutes up way. 50 minutes later he

:41:04.:41:09.

arrives at the new ball valve. He heads upstairs to fix it and in no

:41:10.:41:16.

time at all our tank is in fact fixed. Richard then heads out to

:41:17.:41:20.

call the office to get that elusive price. Just under ten minutes later,

:41:21.:41:24.

he's back, and it seems the price he is about to deliver is so shocking

:41:25.:41:27.

he can't even bring himself to say it.

:41:28.:42:11.

Does it feel like Richard is trying to distance himself from Faster

:42:12.:42:14.

Response? Yes folks, that's right, ?768 for

:42:15.:42:31.

changing a ball valve. Farewell to you benefit of the doubt. Goodbye!

:42:32.:42:39.

So, a company that scams oldies out of hundreds by bumping up prices.

:42:40.:42:43.

We've seen in encouraging people not to pay their VAT, and if you choose

:42:44.:42:46.

to complain about any of this, they will brush you off like the dirt

:42:47.:42:52.

from Jay-Z's shoulder. One for the kids! Then there's the small matter

:42:53.:42:55.

of who is actually running the company first remember, up until

:42:56.:43:00.

February, the directors were Russell Canfield and Liam Cuffe, but they

:43:01.:43:03.

resigned. So why have we spotted them going into the office almost

:43:04.:43:07.

every day? Why are they the only people who go into that office not

:43:08.:43:12.

dress for work? Come on, flip-flops! Their cars aren't exactly plumber 's

:43:13.:43:16.

vans and also why is there very little information on the named

:43:17.:43:26.

directors anywhere else? Is it because Russell and Liam are in fact

:43:27.:43:29.

still in control of the company were trying to avoid any more scrutiny by

:43:30.:43:31.

appearing to step away? Well... They can dodge the VAT, but they can't

:43:32.:43:33.

dodge the Matt. Yes, in about 10 minutes

:43:34.:43:36.

we'll seek answers from Russell Canfield and Liam J Cuffe -

:43:37.:43:38.

and crown them Rogue Traders. But before that, Nikki

:43:39.:43:41.

and her team have been ploughing through the messages you've been

:43:42.:43:44.

sending while we've been on air. Last week's tweets, the coffee hit

:43:45.:43:53.

the fan. We are getting loads on rogue traders but what else? Lots of

:43:54.:43:58.

people getting in touch about their Virgin Media broadband speeds. Glenn

:43:59.:44:02.

got in touch, thank you so much, he lives in Mansfield. He says his

:44:03.:44:07.

Virgin was brilliant and a year ago and now his speeds are fluctuating

:44:08.:44:11.

quite dramatically. Another viewer, Will has got in contact, he says his

:44:12.:44:16.

Virgin service is disastrous. He was told it would be fixed for two years

:44:17.:44:19.

but he doesn't get a decent service at any time of day. And lots of

:44:20.:44:23.

people are concerned about the use of text messages by Santander. I

:44:24.:44:28.

really want to hear about that, all banks, the way they communicate with

:44:29.:44:32.

you and what might have happened. I understand, once again, you have

:44:33.:44:38.

been out with the world fame as swap mob. Yes. This week we have been

:44:39.:44:42.

swapping some of Britain's biggest hotel chains.

:44:43.:44:47.

There are some things we are used to finding in a hotel room, tiny shower

:44:48.:44:55.

jels, undrinkable coffee and of course a plug socket miles away from

:44:56.:44:59.

the bed. Above all, what you always expect is a room that's been

:45:00.:45:02.

thoroughly cleaned. Because, let's face it, none of us really like to

:45:03.:45:06.

think too much about who's been in the room the night before. We

:45:07.:45:09.

certainly don't want to find any reminders of them being there. But

:45:10.:45:14.

according to some viewers even the biggest hotel chains don't always

:45:15.:45:19.

deliver the standards you might hope for. Liska stayed at a Travellodge

:45:20.:45:28.

over Christmas. What did you find in the room? It was a very dirty room.

:45:29.:45:32.

We were up to our calves in water in the shower in the bottom of the

:45:33.:45:35.

bath, so there was obviously a blockage. How did it affect your

:45:36.:45:40.

Christmas? It was meant to be a treat. They did ruin Christmas a

:45:41.:45:45.

little bit. Travellodge did eventually refund the stay. Each of

:45:46.:45:49.

the UK's three largest chains says you will get a good quality room

:45:50.:45:53.

from the moment you arrive. Premier Inn promises outstanding quality in

:45:54.:46:01.

every one of its 65,000 rooms. Holiday Inn says guests deserve a

:46:02.:46:05.

clean comfortable room. Travellodge says it will have your room made up

:46:06.:46:09.

ready for you on arrival. What did our swab mob find when we checked in

:46:10.:46:14.

We tested ten hotels from each of the three big chains, right across

:46:15.:46:17.

the UK. As well as completing a thorough

:46:18.:46:21.

visual inspection, we also tested for dirt that isn't visible to the

:46:22.:46:26.

naked eye. Swabbing for bacteria and using an ultra Violet light to see

:46:27.:46:30.

the unseeable. Delia is a fellow of the British

:46:31.:46:35.

Institute of Cleaning Science, I have come to her training centre to

:46:36.:46:41.

see what she makes of our results. . What should we reason plea expect

:46:42.:46:47.

from a hotel when staying the right? -- staying the night? All fixtures

:46:48.:46:52.

wiped down, carpet thoroughly vanningual cleaned. Fresh I also

:46:53.:46:59.

like to have the mattress checked. Yes, yes, I know I have dressed like

:47:00.:47:02.

the wall paper, but down to business.

:47:03.:47:06.

First, we looked at ten rooms from Holiday Inn. One of them right away

:47:07.:47:12.

had a small but obvious sign that some cleaning had been missed.

:47:13.:47:15.

That's unacceptable really, you are paying for a room, you see that.

:47:16.:47:19.

Straightaway approximate puts you on the back foot, you think if this

:47:20.:47:22.

hasn't been cleaned what else is wrong? In teven seven out of the ten

:47:23.:47:28.

rooms we found problems with bedding or towels, like stains or objects

:47:29.:47:32.

left behind. That's worrying. If they're soiled like they are it's an

:47:33.:47:38.

indication that maybe there is no pillow protectors and they were long

:47:39.:47:42.

due for the pillow graveyard. In another room, this.

:47:43.:47:48.

It looks like we have got a toe nail on that, darling. There you have a

:47:49.:47:55.

scabby lump of somebody's nail on the bed you are about to lie in. Not

:47:56.:47:59.

nice. Looks like a scratchy one, as well.

:48:00.:48:03.

We also found stains on the mattresses in eight of the ten rooms

:48:04.:48:07.

we checked. And splash stains next to the toilet in six of the ten

:48:08.:48:14.

bathrooms. That indicates inferior cleaning because the stains should

:48:15.:48:19.

be removed. Next, premier Inn. On the mattress front they did well.

:48:20.:48:22.

Two of the ten rooms showed up stains. But we found more problems

:48:23.:48:27.

with the bedding or towels in seven of the ten rooms. Those bathroom

:48:28.:48:33.

stains in eight. I asked Delia what the splash stains meant and how I

:48:34.:48:41.

wish I hadn't! When the toilet is flushed, we have a thing called a

:48:42.:48:45.

fountain, the spray from the toilet can go up as far as 15 feet in the

:48:46.:48:51.

air. They're going to land on the surfaces. Every surface has to be

:48:52.:48:56.

cleaned thoroughly when the guest leaves. The floral faecal fountain,

:48:57.:49:08.

three words I will never forget! Travel Lodge. There were more

:49:09.:49:13.

problems with sheets or towels too. The mattresses stole the show here.

:49:14.:49:19.

Nine out of ten stained. This is possibly the worst mattress I think

:49:20.:49:23.

we have seen. Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. That does look like blood.

:49:24.:49:29.

That's a common stain on hotel mattresses. That's why the checking

:49:30.:49:37.

is so important. That can be cleaned up and that is absolutely

:49:38.:49:41.

disgraceful. In each of the three chains we also took samples that we

:49:42.:49:46.

then sent to a lab to get a better idea of the hygiene levels you can't

:49:47.:49:51.

see. In each room we swabbed the TV remote, the toilet flush, the

:49:52.:49:54.

bathroom door handle and the bathroom tap. In a freshly cleaned

:49:55.:49:59.

room, all the samples should come back with a low bacteria count and

:50:00.:50:04.

reassuringly most of ours did. The tap, flush and door handle were

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usually pretty clean. However, on one bathroom tap in a Travellodge we

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discovered a high level of bacteria known to be potentially harmful.

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It's a bacteria we don't want to be coming across, it can be dangerous,

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disease-causing and we don't want it in bathrooms where guests are

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staying. Finally, the TV remote. It was a very mixed picture across our

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hotels. Just one of the ten we swabbed at Holiday Inn had high

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levels of bacteria. Premier Inn and Travelodge both had six out of ten

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remoats with high bacteria levels. A clean sign they hadn't been cleaned

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properly. We found some really dirty TV remoats. What's going wrong? A

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number of hands are handling the remote. Those hands have been in

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various places, hand washing techniques may not be all that. It's

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also important to remember not all bacteria are dangerous. Some we

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need. So, it's important that we don't sort of go all bananas on the

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fact, the remote is going to kill me, no, it isn't. The cleaning

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process that follows should reduce the risk. That's why training,

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education and vigilance is so crucial. I am slightly gagging. I am

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staying in one of those tonight! Don't be leaving your toe nails on

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the bed! All three hotels chains have

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stressed how seriously they take cleanliness,

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and while they're all confident of the systems and processes

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in place to ensure high standards - each of them has now launched

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investigations to identify Holiday Inn told us it's rolling

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out the latest version of a "rigorous five-step"

:51:49.:51:54.

cleaning training programme. Premier Inn said that nearly 95%

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of its guests score them either "very good" or "good"

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for room cleanliness. And while Travelodge accepts

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occasionally mistakes can be made, it says it too has a robust,

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10-step cleaning process. There you go, ten steps. That's

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twice five. Good maths. More Rouge Traders? I cannot get enough. That's

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a shame, this is the last bit. Russell Ska Canfield and Liam Cuffe

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have attempted to distance themselves from the company. We have

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spotted them looking very much like the men in charge a number of times.

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We are on our way to the offices of Faster Response where we would like

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to meet Russell Canfield and Liam Cuffe. They're not now the directors

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of Faster Response but they still seem to be there and it's doing now

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what it did then, which is ripping people off. Big questions to ask and

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I am the fella that's going to ask them, because that's my job,

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question-asking man! It does seem like on this occasion

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the question-asking man has already been spotted, though.

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OK. Here we have the situation where we are in the offices of Faster

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Response. The door here is shut. Strong hand keeping it shut.

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We know he is in here, Liam Cuffe who was director up to February of

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this year. If he is no longer part of this business, what is he

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concerned about? You don't behave like this unless

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you have done something that you know is wrong.

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This is Matt Alwright from BBC Rouge Traders. We want to talk to you

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about Faster Response and about how it overcharges people, how it

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targets the elderly. How it uses the fact it calls itself an emergency

:54:19.:54:23.

service to charge way over the odds. We would like to talk to you about

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VAT, all of those things. You know we are in no hurry, so we

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decide to stick around in the hope of finally getting some actual

:54:34.:54:36.

answers. Luckily, the office has lots of things to keep me occupied.

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Never been any good at this. But the wall of silence remains. So

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we change our plan. And see if the men supposedly now in charge would

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be interested in having a chat. Maybe you would like to give us

:54:53.:54:59.

details for Ben... We would love to talk to them, as well. To be honest,

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the company's been doing the same thing when you were directors and

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now they're directors, so doesn't make too much difference, does it?

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You are not giving yourself a chance to answer this. You have an

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opportunity here to tell me why these things are happening. You are

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sort of... Locked yourself in a room.

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We are clearly not getting anywhere with Liam Cuffe and Russell

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Canfield. They can hide behind their office door and nameless adverts but

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they can't hide from this. It's only a small sign but it sums up very

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much what we feel about Faster Response and about its former

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directors Liam Cuffe and Russell Canfield. Here we go.

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Don't know about you, but I am quite proud of that.

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Well, they are clearly in charge. They've explained in a letter they

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employed two managers who were promoted to directors but this

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change had nothing to do with trading standards getting involved.

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They admit they failed to control the business and customers have lost

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out as a result for which they apologise. Despite being present in

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the office most days, they claim they were unaware of VAT being

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waived and of people's bills inflated. They've told us, Zach and

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Richard, the plumbers we saw in the film behaved professionally but were

:56:37.:56:39.

let down by the management in the office and they say that the

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business is not registered with Gas Safe but it doesn't offer any gas

:56:44.:56:47.

services. This is good, though. They've sent back the money we paid

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and they say they are closing down Faster Response which is curious, as

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earlier this afternoon they were still answering the phones. So, we

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will be keeping and eye on that. We need to. Keep sending your

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stories, details of how you can get in touch are on the screens now.

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Thank you so much to everyone who has been in touch tonight. You have

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been working superhard again, Nikki. Yes, all right, we have had a strong

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reaction to my hotel hygiene film. Filthy. I know, all about me! Mark

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says some suspicious looking stains. I am never going to unhear the words

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floral faecal fountain. I am having a t-shirt made! Duncan said don't

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use glasses in a hotel bathroom unless they're individually wrapped

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not even in upscale luxury hotels. Thank you for getting in contact. We

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have got Stuart on Twitter who says now I need to carry that light in

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every room I stay in. Ignorance is bliss. Thank you we will be back

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live next week at the same time. Citizen Khan himself -

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will be investigating

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