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Tonight - we've caught one of Britain's best known | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
companies promising a service it can't deliver. | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
Whether it's big names, false claims, or fraudsters | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
after your money - this is Watchdog: | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
Hello, welcome back to Watchdog - live from our studio in Salford. | :00:17. | :00:44. | |
And what a stir we caused with the stories that kicked off | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
Yeah, we went global with headlines hitting Malibu to Milton Keynes - | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
and thousands of you have been in touch since. | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
We'll have the latest on some of those stories. | :00:58. | :01:06. | |
And we've plenty more to get you fired up about tonight. | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
Apprentice legend, Nick Hewer has been asking if the big banks | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
are there for you when you get scammed. | :01:12. | :01:13. | |
As one couple did to the tune of ?8,000, and it's something | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
we could all fall for, but it seems some banks | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
The way Santander treated us was worse than the fall. I was in tears | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
on the phone because I just wanted someone to help us. | :01:29. | :01:29. | |
Plus I'll be chasing down more rogue traders - | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
this week going after an emergency plumbing business who bring | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
their own emergency, charging like a wounded rhino. | :01:40. | :01:41. | |
And Nikki and our swab mob team have been at it again. | :01:42. | :01:50. | |
No, really if you're in a hotel you really might not | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
We found serious failings in the way some of our major hotel chains | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
It's a bacteria we really don't want to be coming across. We certainly | :02:00. | :02:08. | |
don't want to be finding it in bathrooms, where guests are staying. | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
As usual, the team behind me would love to hear what you've got | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
So you can email us - at [email protected]. | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
But first tonight, a subject we know lots of you feel | :02:18. | :02:25. | |
Broadband speeds that aren't what you were promised. | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
We know there's millions of you out there frustrated | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
Hello everyone. Hello! That was loud. | :02:34. | :02:45. | |
And a good few of you are upset with one company in particular... | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
Steph is going to be talking to the CEO here in a few minutes. | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
But he'll need to explain why the speeds his company delivers can | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
Superb speeds, ultrafast, speeds that start where rivals finish. It's | :02:56. | :03:08. | |
the key message Virgin Media likes to ram home about its broadband. | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
This is what it feels like to be the fastest. | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
And it was the promise of high speeds that convinced Mike from | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
Barnsley to sign up to Virgin's full house bundle, or which for ?55 a | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
month combined cable TV, phone and broadband, but Mike says he rarely | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
had the speed he was promised. The service was never what Virgin said | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
it was going to be. And he was given a particular reason for why that | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
might be. Virgin sent out an engineer who said we have high | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
utilisation issues in this area. He said the speeds will pick up and the | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
high utilisation problem will get sorted out, but to this day, it's | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
never happened. Plenty of other Virgin customers who have contacted | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
us have had their problems blamed on high utilisation as well. I was told | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
utilisation was the issue. The term they used was utilisation structural | :04:11. | :04:18. | |
utilisation. But what do all these excuses really mean? In effect, | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
Virgin seems to be admitting it signed up to many customers in some | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
areas. All of this putting pressure on the fibre network, slowing down | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
speeds for those sharing that cable. I have come to Manchester to meet a | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
family who are really having a nightmare with this. | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
Win and rocky signed up to a 200 megabits a second package after | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
being assured they received the top speeds advertised, but for months | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
they have also been struggling with speeds that at times can be 90% | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
slower, which is particularly annoying for the couple's son, who | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
has Crohn's disease. What are we playing? Rocket league. You like to | :04:57. | :05:04. | |
use the Internet quite a lot? Just. What you doing on it, apart playing | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
games? I go on like social media apps and talk to my friends, yeah, | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
stuff like that. That's really important to you? Yes. You don't get | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
to go out that much because you don't feel well. Are you going to | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
get it working? It's not connecting. It's not connecting, is that normal? | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
Yes. That's annoying, I was well up for a game of that. | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
However cheesed off he might be, it's nothing compare to his mum and | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
dad, the ones footing the bill. What have you done about it? | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
From about January onwards, since signing the contract, I've been | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
nonstop on the phone. It's been horrendous. You were told the | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
problem was over utilisation? Yes, I was told by one of the engineers | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
when he came out to change the box. Have you been offered a fixed date? | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
We have, first it was the 31st of August, then they changed it to | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
November the 22nd. What ideally, for you, would you want to see happen? I | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
just want it to be better. I want the kids to be happy, that they can | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
go on their gadgets whenever they want. | :06:15. | :06:16. | |
Five minutes up the road, it's a similar story at the home of Steven | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
Sofia, where slower than expected broadband has been a real problem, | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
because both Steven and teenage son Adam are avid gamers, and Sofia is | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
currently studying for a university degree. | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
We use to get a really reliable service, but about a year ago it | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
started to fall apart. We started to get really significant slowdown | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
after 6pm. I'm studying, so I need to be online, and I needed be | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
uninterrupted. After getting speeds of just 5 | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
megabits per second at times, they decided to end their Virgin Media | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
contract, but not before curiosity got the better of them, and Steven | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
hatched a plan to see if the company might still be making promises he | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
knew it couldn't keep. I took it myself to go into the | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
store in Manchester and pretend to be moving into the area, pretended | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
to be buying this house. Did you wear a hat a moustache? I wanted to! | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
Did you? LAUGHTER You saw it might make you stand out. | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
The trench coat was a bit too and believable. I went in pretending to | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
be moving into the area, asked them what the maximum speed was but I | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
could get in this area. They said they are now offering 300 megabytes | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
to some customers. They said there might be some slowdown around | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
tea-time but other than that, they said they don't have to offer a | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
minimum speed guarantee because it doesn't slow down. You said that's | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
brilliant, but inside what were you saying to yourself? You dirty liars! | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
Basically. I knew that wasn't the case. So was this just a one-off | :07:54. | :07:59. | |
mistake, or could Virgin Media be routinely promising new customers | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
speeds it knows it can't deliver? To find out, we went undercover. | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
First, we picked houses in areas where Virgin Media has admitted to | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
customers that there is a problem with high utilisation. Over the | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
course of the week we measured the exact speed each of those addresses | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
was getting on one of the company's fastest packages. Then, posing as | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
new customers, we meet ten visits and phone calls to Virgin, to see if | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
the company's promises matched up to the actual speeds we'd So what speed | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
would we get about property? Virgin Media is signed up to offer | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
an's broadband code of practice, which means it agrees to provide | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
customers with realistic speeds that are as accurate as possible for | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
their address. But, that's not what we got. | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
First, we gave an address in a high utilisation area in Stevenage, and | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
here's the speed they said we could expect. | :09:01. | :09:20. | |
Well, he couldn't have been clearer. No lower than 140 megabits per | :09:21. | :09:27. | |
second, but our tests at that address showed speed as low as 5 | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
megabits a second at peak hours. Not a great start. And things were | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
no better at the next store. We gave an address in Merseyside, where | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
great things were promised. Really? We didn't even get close to | :09:40. | :10:06. | |
that 150 he was promising, and we've been measuring speeds they're all | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
week, which even went as low as 10 megabits per second. We went to | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
three other stores, and none of them gave us realistic speeds either. And | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
when we asked their call centres, we heard more of the same claims, even | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
when Virgin's Brett said they couldn't provide exact data for our | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
address, they were still happy to give estimates that were completely | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
unrealistic. Take this call, where we posed as a customer in a | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
high-capacity part of Luton. In reality, our tests found speeds | :10:36. | :10:49. | |
as low as just 6 megabits per second that this house, not the 160 | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
claimed. So, in the ten visits and phone calls we made to Virgin, while | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
we were usually told things might slowdown at peak times, not once | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
were we given anything close to a realistic speed for the areas we | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
were calling about. And that's especially surprising as Virgin | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
Media's CEO Tom Mockridge very publicly stated the industry needs | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
to clean up its act when it comes to advertising speeds, saying that | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
consumers should know what they are paying for. | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
So, Tom Mockridge, over to you, why is your company offering speeds it | :11:27. | :11:27. | |
knows it can't deliver? Let's find out, with us is Virgin's | :11:28. | :11:37. | |
chief executive, Tom Mockridge. Thank you for joining us. We saw | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
more clearly transparency is something that is important to you, | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
but your sales agents haven't been transparent. Why are they promising | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
speeds you can't deliver? First of all, good evening staff, thank you | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
for having me here. I think there were some very good points raised in | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
that video, and I acknowledge the issues. Basically, we're suffering | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
from growing pains. The network is growing exponentially with more and | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
more people using Internet. We are growing number of customers we have | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
and investing 3 billion to expand the network, to compete with BT. In | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
combination, means in some areas we have fallen short of what we should | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
have done. I think you have drawn attention to that very well. We have | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
gone back into those areas and each of the hub sites you brought | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
particular attention to in that video, we have gone and made | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
improvements so they do deliver the speed. You admit you have some | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
problems in some areas. Why are you still signing up new customers in | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
these areas and telling them, promising them, they will get speeds | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
you can't deliver Marcelo that's a good point and frankly we shouldn't. | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
We do have a process, that if the speed is and what it should be, we | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
take those residences or geographies out of the sales process. It wasn't | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
tight enough, it existed but it wasn't tight enough. We have | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
tightened it up so that problem doesn't rear car. Equally, I have | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
written to all of our salespeople to remind them of their obligation to | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
make it clear to customers the points you made there, that peak | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
time capacity might not always be exactly what was promised, and | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
equally that we have tightened up to make sure we can't sell to those | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
areas where we do need to invest more. You are clearly making | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
changes, which I'm sure lots of customers will be relieved to hear | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
about. Can you ever guarantee they will get the speeds? What we are | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
hearing is very specific promises being made, and they are lying, | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
aren't they, the sales agents? Some have been overly exuberant, that's | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
why I have taken action to write to them all. But we can't guarantee. | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
The network usage is growing... You can't guarantee that your promising | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
people? We don't guarantee, we do stay up to, you pointed out yourself | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
that we made clear that at peak time when everyone is on the Internet, | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
people are downloading video, great programmes at this, this does put a | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
lot of pressure on the network. We are investing more than any other | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
company in the UK. We are investing without subsidy, 3 billion in our | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
project, likely to extend the network. If you are investing, you | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
are saying you can't guarantee, can't ever guarantee a speed, can | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
people leave a contract without penalty if you cannot give them the | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
speed they should be getting? What we do with our customers or the time | :14:23. | :14:33. | |
in any given week we have 100,000 customers... Yes or no, can they | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
leave their contract? We deal with each case on its own merit. On its | :14:36. | :14:38. | |
own -- yes or no? Sometimes people leave the route on the side... Some | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
will be able to leave? Sometimes people leave, of course they leave | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
Virgin Media. Without penalty? We discuss it with each customer on its | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
merits, but we treat people absolutely fairly. Tom Mockridge, | :14:53. | :14:52. | |
thank you for your time. Well, Wayne and Rocky, | :14:53. | :15:01. | |
who we saw in the film, is with us. You must be thrilled to be | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
getting a better service? Well done for getting in touch! Glad | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
we can help. One problem sorted. Still plenty contacting us with | :15:11. | :15:11. | |
problems. So Andrew Ferguson from consumer | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
website Think Broadband We'll start you off with one | :15:15. | :15:16. | |
from Dispesh over here. Tell us about the problem. So I got | :15:17. | :15:28. | |
promised between 100 and 150 meg. I got speeds of five and ten at most | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
and it was difficult to load a Google page. Basic stuff, you are | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
not able to do. Andrew, what can he do, is he legally entitled to leave | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
his contract? Given the big gap in speed, speeds from 150 down to ten, | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
it's a massive gap. Yeah, clearly, there is a good reason and it should | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
be very much the case as the CEO said, we will deal with cases. It's | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
all individual, until you chase up with the company, and tell them to | :15:55. | :15:56. | |
escalate your complaint they won't do anything. Do the checks and the | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
speed tests, get the information. We have a lot more questions coming in. | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
You are here for us tonight on Facebook live. You go to our | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
Facebook website to tackle your broadband queries. It's on Facebook | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
now. Ready for Rouge Traders? Yes! Thank goodness we got the right | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
answer there. A business claims to be there for you in an emergency, | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
but it is waiting to turn your emergency into a financial crisis. | :16:26. | :16:41. | |
Leicester has been home so some terrific success stories in recent | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
times. Obviously, there is the football. Let's not forget they also | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
found a King under a car park. In fact, it was in this very car park | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
that King Richard III's body was discovered buried under the ground. | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
It took some heavy digging by the team involved to establish, not only | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
that he was who they thought he was, but, crucially, that he was the man | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
in charge. Which brings me neatly to | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
Leicester-based plumbing company Faster Response. | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
Because they've been causing a few Winters of discontent of their own. | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
And we have had to do serious digging as tracking down the men | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
behind the operation has been no mean feat. Billing themselves as an | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
emergency callout plumbing service, they've been laying waste to the | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
bank accounts of elderly customers across the Midlands for a little | :17:34. | :17:45. | |
while now. The company was originally called Crimson | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
Maintenance. Then in 2016, the company changed its name to Faster | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
Response. And we kept getting complaints about them. As did | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
trading standards. So they told them to... Stop it! And in January, | :17:57. | :18:05. | |
Russell and Liam signed an agreement promising to change their bad ways. | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
Well done boys. Then, in what appears to be a coins dental turn of | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
events they resigned as directors of Faster Response the next month, | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
February. But here's the thing, the complaints about Faster Response | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
kept coming and they followed a similar pattern. Overcharging for | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
crazy simple stuff, and shoddy workmanship. When Russell and Liam | :18:33. | :18:41. | |
resigned their directorships, they handed over to these guys. | :18:42. | :18:48. | |
We don't have photos of these two because they're quite tricky to pin | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
down. The company itself seems a bit shy, even in its adverts. In the | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
Yellow Pages, for instance, the name is nowhere to be seen, almost as if | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
they don't want people to know who they're calling out. | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
Eleanor didn't know which plumber she had rung after discovering a | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
serious leak in her water tank late one night in March. She had gone | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
straight to the Yellow Pages and called the number on a prominent | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
advert that seemed to be just what she needed. It hadn't got a name but | :19:18. | :19:27. | |
it was marked as a 24-hour emergency callout. Without knowing it, Eleanor | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
had called Faster Response. Two hours later a plumber arrived. He | :19:32. | :19:39. | |
told me there was a part of the ballcock that had deteriorated and | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
there was a leak in a pipe. The plumber told Eleanor he wouldn't be | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
able to complete the job that night as he needed parts but before he | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
left he called the office who demanded payment upfront. I couldn't | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
believe it. ?512. That was if you paid in cash. The other option was | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
to pay by card. If you did that, you had to pay VAT on top. So they gave | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
you an option to pay effectively VAT-free for cash. Yes. But more | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
expensive with a card? Yes. Wow. Eleanor paid by card, bringing the | :20:20. | :20:25. | |
price up to ?614. The next evening the plumber returned and fitted the | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
new parts, the whole job had taken less than two hours, but before he | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
left he asked for a further payment to cover the return visit. For the | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
second night I was charged another ?375 on top of the ?614 I had just | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
paid. Hold on, that's nearly ?1,000. It is. Under two hours' work. And | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
the only parts that had been fitted are minimal. Yes. That's ridiculous. | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
I nearly dropped when they told me the price. The next day, worried | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
about what she had been charged, Eleanor called another plumber to | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
come and inspect the work. They said that Faster Response had replaced | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
one part unnecessarily, the work had been done badly and should have cost | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
no more than ?200. I regret that I called them. They're very dishonest | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
in my opinion. It seems like this would be the right time to check out | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
the company's work ourselves. We have a house, we have an actress. | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
And we have got an expert. Mike Griffin. Our knight in steel toe | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
caps who will damage our toilet handle. Most plumbers will charge a | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
minimum charge plus the cost of materials. You can buy a handle and | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
set for ?10 or less and fix it inside of 20, 30 minutes. This is | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
the sort of basic job that someone who has come out of plumbing college | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
will be able to tackle easily. We called the number for Faster | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
Response to a job that should cost around ?60 to ?10000 to fix. Hello, | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
the toilet -- ?100. Once again they seem to be avoiding using the name | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
Faster Response and give no clue about what they might be charging | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
but here we are, plumber Zach is in the house wearing a shirt that says | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
Faster Response. He is part of the plumbing team that's brought misery | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
to the Midlands. Will he be causing a headache in our home? We will be | :22:25. | :22:31. | |
seeing Zach do his thing possibly illegally in a few minutes. And that | :22:32. | :22:33. | |
price, not very nice. Let's catch up on a couple | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
of our stories from last week. Loads of messages and people talking | :22:39. | :22:47. | |
about smart metres and problems installed. So many messages, thank | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
you so much. We heard of a similar experience to ones we saw in our | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
report about smart metres. Matt Taylor says he had a smart | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
meter installed and the electrics Karen Stott's 89-year-old mum | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
in law had a gas leak And Darren Butland says his | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
mum was left with gas Well, the Government department | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
responsible has told us that: "Ensuring the safe roll out of smart | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
meters is the number one priority of the programme and safety | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
is continuously reviewed". But keep your comments | :23:18. | :23:19. | |
on that story coming. Lots of you told us you're not | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
convinced the company has changed the way it | :23:22. | :23:37. | |
allocates its seats. Splitting people up unless they've | :23:38. | :23:39. | |
paid for reserved seats. Martyn Jackson says his group of 12 | :23:40. | :23:41. | |
were all allocated a middle seat on a different row, | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
despite there being plenty He calls it, | :23:45. | :23:46. | |
"Absolutely disgusting". On the show last week Ryanair's Head | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
of Marketing insisted there's I would say it is random, that's | :23:50. | :23:59. | |
what we call it, it's random allocated seating. | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
People on social media weren't convinced. | :24:05. | :24:05. | |
And Ryanair's been pretty active on Twitter about this too. | :24:06. | :24:16. | |
It says when free seats open it keeps the window and aisle seats | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
back for passengers who pay to reserve them. I called them to ask. | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
You are saying that you hold the window and aisle seat and you are | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
likely to end up in a middle seat. To be separated. It means it's not | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
random, doesn't it? They wouldn't give me an answer on the phone. On | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
e-mail Ryanair are still insisting it is random. But it also says if | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
you haven't paid you should not expect to sit together. | :24:43. | :24:51. | |
Doesn't sound random, does it? Keep your thoughts coming in on | :24:52. | :24:52. | |
that. Watchdog - once we get our teeth | :24:53. | :24:59. | |
in we don't let go! Next tonight, a horribly convincing | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
scam you need to know Who else would we get | :25:03. | :25:04. | |
to tell this story but Lord Most of us like to think we're | :25:05. | :25:21. | |
pretty good at spotting a fake. But as scams become more sophisticated | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
it can be much harder to distinguish what is real and what isn't. | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
And I've nearly fallen prey a few times. I've had fraudsters call me | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
with dodgy investments, I even had one call me posing as my bank. | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
Luckily, I managed to spot those scams before they got hold of my | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
money and now I campaign to raise awareness about fraud so that people | :25:47. | :25:54. | |
don't get caught out. Paul and Helen contacted Watchdog after receiving a | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
convincing text message that wasn't what it seemed. Tell me about this | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
text message. What did it say? I received a text message from | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
Santander saying money had been taken out of my account and to call | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
a number to confirm whether it was a genuine transaction. Why did you | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
think the text came from the bank? Because it had come from a text | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
stream from Santander. It made me believe that it was a genuine text | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
message. The fraudsters had found a way to disguise their number so that | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
it showed up on Paul's phone as exactly the same as Santander, a | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
method known as number spoofing. So their message appeared here, right | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
in the middle of real messages from Santander here. | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
You can understand why Paul believed it was real. So you called the | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
number on the text. Got through, what made you think you were talking | :26:50. | :26:55. | |
to the bank? He had already explained some previous | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
transactions, asked me all the same security questions as when I | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
previously phoned up. So I thought I was talking to the bank. Sadly, it | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
wasn't. The fraudsters could use Paul's answers to access his | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
account. Then, to get their hands on his money they made up a story of a | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
failed mortgage payment he supposedly needed to reconfirm. That | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
triggered a genuine text from Santander to Paul's phone containing | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
the one-time pass code required for any such transaction. It's intended | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
as a security check but with no reason to suspect he wasn't talking | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
to his bank, Paul passed it on. People might wonder why you read | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
that code out on the phone. It was explained as a code to confirm a | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
previous transaction I made on my business account. When did you first | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
think hello, I might not be talking to my bank? I didn't. It was only | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
until I received a phone call from Santander later in the evening to | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
explain that all my money had been transferred out of my account. I was | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
shocked. I felt sick. ?8,000 had been cleared from his account. The | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
financial conduct authority is clear that banks must refund money you | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
have lost through fraud. But banks can refuse to pay if they can prove | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
you have been grossly negligent. Santander refused to refund Paul | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
because he had given out that one-time pass code. Even though he | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
had been sure he was talking to his bank. They didn't seem to be that | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
bothered that we had money taken out of our account. The way Santander | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
treated us was worse than the fraud because it was frustrating, I was | :28:39. | :28:41. | |
five months pregnant at the time. I was in tears on the phone. I just | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
wanted someone to try to help us. Just how can fraudsters manage to | :28:48. | :28:54. | |
hack into your text and make this So convincing? I have asked Tim, a text | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
security expert to demonstrate how it might work. Tim, how do these | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
fraudulent texts infiltrate text streams from that customer's bank? | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
Let me show you. Our software here will launch a | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
message as if it's coming from your bank. Hold on. | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
Look at that. That's your bank sending a proper message. Now what I | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
can do is I can use the same software the criminals will use in | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
order to show you this one will look exactly the same. | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
Here we go, look at that, you couldn't tell the difference, could | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
you? Absolutely not, it looks the same. This kind of number spoofing | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
scam has targeted customers of most of the big banks, but it does appear | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
Santander customers are especially vulnerable. That's because while the | :29:52. | :29:58. | |
majority of UK banks use text messages to communicate with their | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
customers, Santander is the only bank to rely solely on text messages | :30:03. | :30:08. | |
to verify transactions, and the same systems that fraudsters use to pose | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
as your bank, can also be used to intercept genuine texts as well. | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
Should banks be relying on text messages per verification? It's an | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
old system, it was never designed for security. The one-time pass code | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
base in June text messages better than just having a username and | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
password, but when you are using SMS messages, you really don't know who | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
it's come from. This electrician Adrian had ?27,000 stolen after | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
responding to a text he also thought was from Santander, and it couldn't | :30:41. | :30:47. | |
have happened at a worse time. It was two days before Christmas, it | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
was terrible. We did have a wedding to plan for, and a honeymoon. I | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
started crying, because I could see what had happened and I just felt | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
sick. When Adrian spoke to what he | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
believed was his bank, he is adamant he simply answered several security | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
questions, but Santander refuse to refund the money he'd lost, claiming | :31:08. | :31:13. | |
he'd been negligent by giving out a one-time pass code, something Adrian | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
insists he did not do. What's more, he can prove he didn't | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
respond to a genuine text Santander are sent at the time the fraudsters | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
were stealing his cash. The bank had asked him to confirm the | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
transaction. Without that confirmation, no money should have | :31:33. | :31:35. | |
been transferred, but the bank did it anyway. | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
It just leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, that something like that | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
can happen so easily, without giving them all the information. | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
Losing the money meant Adrian had to delay his honeymoon with pride Holly | :31:49. | :31:54. | |
and borrow from friends and family. I've never been in debt and neither | :31:55. | :31:57. | |
has Adrian, so to start life off like that, married life, is not | :31:58. | :32:05. | |
really what you intended. So, is Santander are being fair in | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
accusing customers of negligence? I have brought our research fraud | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
investigator and expert witness to see what he thinks that really | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
means. Santander are arguing that customers | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
have been negligent in giving out their one-time password, what do you | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
think? Gross negligence... This is not just about being callous, it's | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
writing down the pin for your debit card on a piece of paper and keeping | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
it in your wallet or purse with your credit card. In my view, what has | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
happened in these cases is not gross negligence. They haven't given out | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
their one-time pass code. They were disclosing it to Santander, as far | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
as they were concerned. Here is the hundred thousand dollar question, as | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
they say, should Santander give the customers their money back? Simple | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
answer - yes. Their processes are extremely weak and they are being | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
exploited by fraudsters. Santander should be refunding their money. | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
We bank customers can never afford to relax, we must remain alert to | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
spot these scams, but shouldn't the banks have a responsibility to | :33:21. | :33:23. | |
ensure their systems are not open to abuse? Clearly a very convincing | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
scam. Well, Santander's told us it | :33:29. | :33:29. | |
dedicates substantial resources to protect customers from this kind | :33:30. | :33:31. | |
of criminal activity, using robust technology, and continuously | :33:32. | :33:34. | |
educating customers. It says it prevents the vast | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
majority of fraud, but if a customer provides their passwords | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
or passcodes to fraudsters, this can allow a criminal to make | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
fraudulent payments. It says both our cases divulged | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
vital personal details. But the bank accepts it could have | :33:49. | :33:50. | |
handled Paul's case better and has And since then Paul has | :33:51. | :33:53. | |
managed to retrieve ?4,000 from the bank the fraudulent | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
transaction was paid into. The bank also points out | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
that the cases in our film And it's given three rules | :34:05. | :34:06. | |
to protect against fraud: Never download software or let | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
people log on to your account And never enter your online banking | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
details after clicking It's stressed it will never ask | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
you to do any of these things. A solicitor specialising in fraud of | :34:21. | :34:38. | |
exactly this type. I will be honest, I'm worried, I'm confused and | :34:39. | :34:41. | |
worried now put I thought the banks were there to protect me from | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
exactly this sort of thing. Where does the bank's responsibility to me | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
as a customer to protect me begin and end? The payment service | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
regulation puts the onus on banks to ensure they provide secure banking | :34:56. | :35:00. | |
facilities. They should be infiltrated, copied or mimicked. If | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
it is used to imitate a one-time pass code on a text message, that is | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
the bank's responds pretty, they are failing and they should be | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
protecting, that is their responsibility. If we're talking to | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
third parties in giving away our information voluntarily, that's our | :35:17. | :35:18. | |
responsibility. But if the bank allows our confidence to be | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
breached, it's their failing. High-street banks are disappearing | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
at a rate. A lot of us have no option but to use telephone and | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
online banking services, using our mobiles. Is the reality that we are | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
not up to speed and that these services that we have to use now are | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
too difficult for a lot of people? I think it's a fair comment. I think | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
we are pushed onto remote banking services a lot more and there's lots | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
of ways that those be defrauded. We may need to take more responsibility | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
at times but it's about being vigilant, taking a bit more time to | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
think about who you are communicated with, what you're being asked to do | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
and phone your bank if you are unsure. Thank you very much. | :35:57. | :35:59. | |
Our swab mob checked in - to check them out. | :36:00. | :36:10. | |
Back to tonight's Rogue Traders, where 24-hour callout plumbers | :36:11. | :36:12. | |
Faster Response are highly skilled at performing emergency | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
We've invited one of their oppos into our house full of cameras. | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
Will they use it to get a hold of our money? | :36:23. | :36:29. | |
Our expert Mike has set a fault which should cost no more than ?100 | :36:30. | :36:38. | |
to fix and has settled into the hide. Faster Response plumber Zach | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
is on the loo in a flash and in a few minutes he had spotted the | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
problem and is off to get a part. Half an hour later, Zak is back and | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
ready to tend to the faulty toilet flush. Well, nearly ready. A | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
screwdriver, you say question yes, I imagine as a plumber that could come | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
in handy. Tools finally in hand, it takes just a few minutes to get the | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
toilet flushing. Speedy. Now he just needs to tell us how much we owe | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
him. Sorry? ! ?630?! Yes, please say that | :37:10. | :37:16. | |
again. Oh, that's including VAT, right. | :37:17. | :37:46. | |
Perfectly reasonable, for one hour's work. | :37:47. | :37:52. | |
Doris hands over the money, but we still can't get over the fact this | :37:53. | :38:31. | |
couldn't have cost more than ?100 to fix. | :38:32. | :38:39. | |
Same-day service, well, that's good to know for future reference. It | :38:40. | :38:46. | |
will be important later. Mike takes a look at what we got the | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
nearly ?500. We've got a ?10 part, fitted to the | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
toilet, and wages would have embarrassed a barrister in this day | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
and age. I can't believe it. In the city where they dug up a king, we've | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
have been charged a kings ransom for a throne. But the digging doesn't | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
there. This dump any claims to be gas safe registered but the number | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
they give doesn't check out. I mean, you don't just make a mistake with | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
something like that. Normally we'd give a company the benefit of the | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
doubt at this stage, but this is starting to feel like... Everybody | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
deserves a second chance, otherwise we would never have got to see the | :39:30. | :39:36. | |
film diplomat. Break out the tiny cameras, wiggling again. And that's | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
what we did, and other house with another Mike Griffin fudge up, this | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
time on the water tank. The fault I'm going to said today, I'm going | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
to bend the arm of the valve ever so slightly, in order to allow extra | :39:50. | :39:59. | |
water into the tank so the water will run out of the overthrow and | :40:00. | :40:01. | |
trip outside. No more than ?100 to fix again, no matter how much of an | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
emergency it is. And it turns out it's not much of an emergency as far | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
as the company is concerned. We called at 11:30am. They richly said | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
early afternoon, then for a crock, then five. What was the reason they | :40:12. | :40:13. | |
gave before for being so expensive? I did say it would be important, and | :40:14. | :40:23. | |
at 520 we are told engineer Richard will definitely not be able to make | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
it out to our emergency today. They eventually tell us you will come in | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
the morning instead. Richard finally arrived the next day, 20 minutes | :40:33. | :40:33. | |
later than promised. Mike's watching the action unfold, | :40:34. | :40:44. | |
and without even taking the lid off our tag or checking the ball valve, | :40:45. | :40:45. | |
Richard is off to the shops. Stuff, like repairing stuff, for | :40:46. | :40:56. | |
repairing things? Richard is actually off to buy a ball valve | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
that shouldn't be too hard to find, it's a very common part to find and | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
there is a plumber's merchant a few minutes up way. 50 minutes later he | :41:04. | :41:09. | |
arrives at the new ball valve. He heads upstairs to fix it and in no | :41:10. | :41:16. | |
time at all our tank is in fact fixed. Richard then heads out to | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
call the office to get that elusive price. Just under ten minutes later, | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
he's back, and it seems the price he is about to deliver is so shocking | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
he can't even bring himself to say it. | :41:28. | :42:11. | |
Does it feel like Richard is trying to distance himself from Faster | :42:12. | :42:14. | |
Response? Yes folks, that's right, ?768 for | :42:15. | :42:31. | |
changing a ball valve. Farewell to you benefit of the doubt. Goodbye! | :42:32. | :42:39. | |
So, a company that scams oldies out of hundreds by bumping up prices. | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
We've seen in encouraging people not to pay their VAT, and if you choose | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
to complain about any of this, they will brush you off like the dirt | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
from Jay-Z's shoulder. One for the kids! Then there's the small matter | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
of who is actually running the company first remember, up until | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
February, the directors were Russell Canfield and Liam Cuffe, but they | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
resigned. So why have we spotted them going into the office almost | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
every day? Why are they the only people who go into that office not | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
dress for work? Come on, flip-flops! Their cars aren't exactly plumber 's | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
vans and also why is there very little information on the named | :43:17. | :43:26. | |
directors anywhere else? Is it because Russell and Liam are in fact | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
still in control of the company were trying to avoid any more scrutiny by | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
appearing to step away? Well... They can dodge the VAT, but they can't | :43:32. | :43:33. | |
dodge the Matt. Yes, in about 10 minutes | :43:34. | :43:36. | |
we'll seek answers from Russell Canfield and Liam J Cuffe - | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
and crown them Rogue Traders. But before that, Nikki | :43:39. | :43:41. | |
and her team have been ploughing through the messages you've been | :43:42. | :43:44. | |
sending while we've been on air. Last week's tweets, the coffee hit | :43:45. | :43:53. | |
the fan. We are getting loads on rogue traders but what else? Lots of | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
people getting in touch about their Virgin Media broadband speeds. Glenn | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
got in touch, thank you so much, he lives in Mansfield. He says his | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
Virgin was brilliant and a year ago and now his speeds are fluctuating | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
quite dramatically. Another viewer, Will has got in contact, he says his | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
Virgin service is disastrous. He was told it would be fixed for two years | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
but he doesn't get a decent service at any time of day. And lots of | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
people are concerned about the use of text messages by Santander. I | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
really want to hear about that, all banks, the way they communicate with | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
you and what might have happened. I understand, once again, you have | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
been out with the world fame as swap mob. Yes. This week we have been | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
swapping some of Britain's biggest hotel chains. | :44:43. | :44:47. | |
There are some things we are used to finding in a hotel room, tiny shower | :44:48. | :44:55. | |
jels, undrinkable coffee and of course a plug socket miles away from | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
the bed. Above all, what you always expect is a room that's been | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
thoroughly cleaned. Because, let's face it, none of us really like to | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
think too much about who's been in the room the night before. We | :45:07. | :45:09. | |
certainly don't want to find any reminders of them being there. But | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
according to some viewers even the biggest hotel chains don't always | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
deliver the standards you might hope for. Liska stayed at a Travellodge | :45:20. | :45:28. | |
over Christmas. What did you find in the room? It was a very dirty room. | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
We were up to our calves in water in the shower in the bottom of the | :45:33. | :45:35. | |
bath, so there was obviously a blockage. How did it affect your | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
Christmas? It was meant to be a treat. They did ruin Christmas a | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
little bit. Travellodge did eventually refund the stay. Each of | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
the UK's three largest chains says you will get a good quality room | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
from the moment you arrive. Premier Inn promises outstanding quality in | :45:54. | :46:01. | |
every one of its 65,000 rooms. Holiday Inn says guests deserve a | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
clean comfortable room. Travellodge says it will have your room made up | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
ready for you on arrival. What did our swab mob find when we checked in | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
We tested ten hotels from each of the three big chains, right across | :46:15. | :46:17. | |
the UK. As well as completing a thorough | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
visual inspection, we also tested for dirt that isn't visible to the | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
naked eye. Swabbing for bacteria and using an ultra Violet light to see | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
the unseeable. Delia is a fellow of the British | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
Institute of Cleaning Science, I have come to her training centre to | :46:36. | :46:41. | |
see what she makes of our results. . What should we reason plea expect | :46:42. | :46:47. | |
from a hotel when staying the right? -- staying the night? All fixtures | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
wiped down, carpet thoroughly vanningual cleaned. Fresh I also | :46:53. | :46:59. | |
like to have the mattress checked. Yes, yes, I know I have dressed like | :47:00. | :47:02. | |
the wall paper, but down to business. | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
First, we looked at ten rooms from Holiday Inn. One of them right away | :47:07. | :47:12. | |
had a small but obvious sign that some cleaning had been missed. | :47:13. | :47:15. | |
That's unacceptable really, you are paying for a room, you see that. | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
Straightaway approximate puts you on the back foot, you think if this | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
hasn't been cleaned what else is wrong? In teven seven out of the ten | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
rooms we found problems with bedding or towels, like stains or objects | :47:29. | :47:32. | |
left behind. That's worrying. If they're soiled like they are it's an | :47:33. | :47:38. | |
indication that maybe there is no pillow protectors and they were long | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
due for the pillow graveyard. In another room, this. | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
It looks like we have got a toe nail on that, darling. There you have a | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
scabby lump of somebody's nail on the bed you are about to lie in. Not | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
nice. Looks like a scratchy one, as well. | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
We also found stains on the mattresses in eight of the ten rooms | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
we checked. And splash stains next to the toilet in six of the ten | :48:08. | :48:14. | |
bathrooms. That indicates inferior cleaning because the stains should | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
be removed. Next, premier Inn. On the mattress front they did well. | :48:20. | :48:22. | |
Two of the ten rooms showed up stains. But we found more problems | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
with the bedding or towels in seven of the ten rooms. Those bathroom | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
stains in eight. I asked Delia what the splash stains meant and how I | :48:34. | :48:41. | |
wish I hadn't! When the toilet is flushed, we have a thing called a | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
fountain, the spray from the toilet can go up as far as 15 feet in the | :48:46. | :48:51. | |
air. They're going to land on the surfaces. Every surface has to be | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
cleaned thoroughly when the guest leaves. The floral faecal fountain, | :48:57. | :49:08. | |
three words I will never forget! Travel Lodge. There were more | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
problems with sheets or towels too. The mattresses stole the show here. | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
Nine out of ten stained. This is possibly the worst mattress I think | :49:20. | :49:23. | |
we have seen. Dreadful. Absolutely dreadful. That does look like blood. | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
That's a common stain on hotel mattresses. That's why the checking | :49:30. | :49:37. | |
is so important. That can be cleaned up and that is absolutely | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
disgraceful. In each of the three chains we also took samples that we | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
then sent to a lab to get a better idea of the hygiene levels you can't | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
see. In each room we swabbed the TV remote, the toilet flush, the | :49:52. | :49:54. | |
bathroom door handle and the bathroom tap. In a freshly cleaned | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
room, all the samples should come back with a low bacteria count and | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
reassuringly most of ours did. The tap, flush and door handle were | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
usually pretty clean. However, on one bathroom tap in a Travellodge we | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
discovered a high level of bacteria known to be potentially harmful. | :50:16. | :50:22. | |
It's a bacteria we don't want to be coming across, it can be dangerous, | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
disease-causing and we don't want it in bathrooms where guests are | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
staying. Finally, the TV remote. It was a very mixed picture across our | :50:32. | :50:37. | |
hotels. Just one of the ten we swabbed at Holiday Inn had high | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
levels of bacteria. Premier Inn and Travelodge both had six out of ten | :50:43. | :50:48. | |
remoats with high bacteria levels. A clean sign they hadn't been cleaned | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
properly. We found some really dirty TV remoats. What's going wrong? A | :50:55. | :50:57. | |
number of hands are handling the remote. Those hands have been in | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
various places, hand washing techniques may not be all that. It's | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
also important to remember not all bacteria are dangerous. Some we | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
need. So, it's important that we don't sort of go all bananas on the | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
fact, the remote is going to kill me, no, it isn't. The cleaning | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
process that follows should reduce the risk. That's why training, | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
education and vigilance is so crucial. I am slightly gagging. I am | :51:28. | :51:33. | |
staying in one of those tonight! Don't be leaving your toe nails on | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
the bed! All three hotels chains have | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
stressed how seriously they take cleanliness, | :51:41. | :51:42. | |
and while they're all confident of the systems and processes | :51:43. | :51:44. | |
in place to ensure high standards - each of them has now launched | :51:45. | :51:46. | |
investigations to identify Holiday Inn told us it's rolling | :51:47. | :51:48. | |
out the latest version of a "rigorous five-step" | :51:49. | :51:54. | |
cleaning training programme. Premier Inn said that nearly 95% | :51:55. | :51:56. | |
of its guests score them either "very good" or "good" | :51:57. | :51:59. | |
for room cleanliness. And while Travelodge accepts | :52:00. | :52:02. | |
occasionally mistakes can be made, it says it too has a robust, | :52:03. | :52:04. | |
10-step cleaning process. There you go, ten steps. That's | :52:05. | :52:20. | |
twice five. Good maths. More Rouge Traders? I cannot get enough. That's | :52:21. | :52:30. | |
a shame, this is the last bit. Russell Ska Canfield and Liam Cuffe | :52:31. | :52:37. | |
have attempted to distance themselves from the company. We have | :52:38. | :52:41. | |
spotted them looking very much like the men in charge a number of times. | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
We are on our way to the offices of Faster Response where we would like | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
to meet Russell Canfield and Liam Cuffe. They're not now the directors | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
of Faster Response but they still seem to be there and it's doing now | :52:56. | :52:59. | |
what it did then, which is ripping people off. Big questions to ask and | :53:00. | :53:05. | |
I am the fella that's going to ask them, because that's my job, | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
question-asking man! It does seem like on this occasion | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
the question-asking man has already been spotted, though. | :53:15. | :53:23. | |
OK. Here we have the situation where we are in the offices of Faster | :53:24. | :53:33. | |
Response. The door here is shut. Strong hand keeping it shut. | :53:34. | :53:41. | |
We know he is in here, Liam Cuffe who was director up to February of | :53:42. | :53:47. | |
this year. If he is no longer part of this business, what is he | :53:48. | :53:53. | |
concerned about? You don't behave like this unless | :53:54. | :53:56. | |
you have done something that you know is wrong. | :53:57. | :54:06. | |
This is Matt Alwright from BBC Rouge Traders. We want to talk to you | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
about Faster Response and about how it overcharges people, how it | :54:12. | :54:18. | |
targets the elderly. How it uses the fact it calls itself an emergency | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
service to charge way over the odds. We would like to talk to you about | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
VAT, all of those things. You know we are in no hurry, so we | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
decide to stick around in the hope of finally getting some actual | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
answers. Luckily, the office has lots of things to keep me occupied. | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
Never been any good at this. But the wall of silence remains. So | :54:42. | :54:46. | |
we change our plan. And see if the men supposedly now in charge would | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
be interested in having a chat. Maybe you would like to give us | :54:53. | :54:59. | |
details for Ben... We would love to talk to them, as well. To be honest, | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
the company's been doing the same thing when you were directors and | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
now they're directors, so doesn't make too much difference, does it? | :55:08. | :55:10. | |
You are not giving yourself a chance to answer this. You have an | :55:11. | :55:15. | |
opportunity here to tell me why these things are happening. You are | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
sort of... Locked yourself in a room. | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
We are clearly not getting anywhere with Liam Cuffe and Russell | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
Canfield. They can hide behind their office door and nameless adverts but | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
they can't hide from this. It's only a small sign but it sums up very | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
much what we feel about Faster Response and about its former | :55:41. | :55:45. | |
directors Liam Cuffe and Russell Canfield. Here we go. | :55:46. | :55:58. | |
Don't know about you, but I am quite proud of that. | :55:59. | :56:10. | |
Well, they are clearly in charge. They've explained in a letter they | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
employed two managers who were promoted to directors but this | :56:15. | :56:16. | |
change had nothing to do with trading standards getting involved. | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
They admit they failed to control the business and customers have lost | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
out as a result for which they apologise. Despite being present in | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
the office most days, they claim they were unaware of VAT being | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
waived and of people's bills inflated. They've told us, Zach and | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
Richard, the plumbers we saw in the film behaved professionally but were | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
let down by the management in the office and they say that the | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
business is not registered with Gas Safe but it doesn't offer any gas | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
services. This is good, though. They've sent back the money we paid | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
and they say they are closing down Faster Response which is curious, as | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
earlier this afternoon they were still answering the phones. So, we | :56:56. | :56:59. | |
will be keeping and eye on that. We need to. Keep sending your | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
stories, details of how you can get in touch are on the screens now. | :57:04. | :57:06. | |
Thank you so much to everyone who has been in touch tonight. You have | :57:07. | :57:12. | |
been working superhard again, Nikki. Yes, all right, we have had a strong | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
reaction to my hotel hygiene film. Filthy. I know, all about me! Mark | :57:19. | :57:27. | |
says some suspicious looking stains. I am never going to unhear the words | :57:28. | :57:35. | |
floral faecal fountain. I am having a t-shirt made! Duncan said don't | :57:36. | :57:42. | |
use glasses in a hotel bathroom unless they're individually wrapped | :57:43. | :57:45. | |
not even in upscale luxury hotels. Thank you for getting in contact. We | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
have got Stuart on Twitter who says now I need to carry that light in | :57:52. | :58:00. | |
every room I stay in. Ignorance is bliss. Thank you we will be back | :58:01. | :58:03. | |
live next week at the same time. Citizen Khan himself - | :58:04. | :58:11. | |
will be investigating | :58:12. | :58:14. |