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Today on Crime And Punishment, tracking down the troublemakers.

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You've been here two hours, you've had more than two pints.

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And focussing new eyes on an old problem.

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Can we make sure the camera's on it?

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Because we're going to be arresting somebody in a minute.

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And here in Bristol Prison,

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we'll be recalling one of the last hangings in Britain,

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with the officer who witnessed the condemned man's final days.

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I suppose he knew it was just a few days,

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and if his last appeal went down to the Queen for clemency,

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he would hang the next day.

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One of the major changes to our justice system

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since the Queen came to the throne 60 years ago,

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happened in 1969,

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with the abolition of the death penalty.

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Calls for its return began almost immediately,

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with the convictions of the Moors murderers,

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Myra Hindley and Ian Brady.

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Despite public cries to hang them, the law remained.

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Even today, 43 years later,

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the debate about capital punishment is still a passionate one.

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One of Britain's last executions took place at Bristol Prison

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at 8am on the 17th December 1963.

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In what became known as the Christmas Hanging,

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24-year-old Russell Pascoe paid the ultimate penalty

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for his part in the murder of a Cornish farmer...

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..at exactly the same time as his partner in crime,

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Dennis Whitty, was being hanged at Winchester.

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Outside Horfield Prison, as it was known then, a huddle of demonstrators

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had been protesting night and day against Pascoe's sentence.

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Among them, one of Bristol's MPs, Tony Benn.

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Everything that I saw that day confirmed all my feelings about it.

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The whole thing was so gruesome, and it reminded me

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of the fact that if you execute people,

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it's what the system does to you,

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and everybody in society.

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Benn was moved to write an article for The Guardian.

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This was not the flickering thrill of a TV lynching,

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but the killing of a real man,

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now sweating it out a few yards away behind the high walls,

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and who would in 24 hours' time be buried in quicklime,

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his death agony over.

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Back in the early 1800s, more than 200 crimes,

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like stealing sheep and pickpocketing,

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were punishable by death.

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In those days, hangings were carried out in public,

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in a party atmosphere that disgusted critics like Thackeray and Charles Dickens,

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who wrote articles attacking the spectacle.

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No sorrow, no salutary terror,

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nothing but ribaldry, debauchery, levity,

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drunkenness and flaunting vice in 50 other shapes.

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I should have deemed it impossible that I could have ever felt

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any large assemblage of my fellow creatures to be so odious.

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Dickens' writing helped bring about the abolition

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of public executions in 1868,

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only for hangings to continue inside the prison gates

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for another hundred years.

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Ironically, the move behind closed doors

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had taken capital punishment off the political agenda.

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But, by 1963 when Pascoe was hanged, the debate on whether or not

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to abolish capital punishment was becoming ever more intense.

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The fact that it came at Christmas time, just before,

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when the mood was obviously changing,

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I think helped to bring about an atmosphere favourable

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to the abolition of capital punishment.

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The controversy was fuelled by two cases in particular.

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Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be executed,

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was later revealed to have been the victim of terrible abuse

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by the man she shot, her lover, David Blakely.

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I tried to see the Home Secretary on that occasion,

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because I think that was a gross injustice.

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These days, attitudes to domestic abuse have changed so much

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she'd have been able to plead diminished responsibility,

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and experts say she might have received a sentence

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of just two or three years for manslaughter.

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Derek Bentley was hanged for the death of PC Sidney Miles

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during a botched warehouse burglary in Croydon,

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even though it was his underage accomplice,

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Chris Craig, who fired the lethal shot.

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Famously, Bentley was said to have shouted, "Let him have it, Chris."

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Debate still rages whether that meant he wanted Craig

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to hand over the pistol, or use it to kill the advancing policeman.

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Though both Bentley and Craig denied it was ever said at all.

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I think where there was a hanging, there was always an argument,

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was it right or not?

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But whether the guy was really guilty or not

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didn't alter the fact that if you took a life

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you were taking a moral decision that had to be questioned.

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Bentley's family always questioned the decision against him,

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and as a result of the campaign, he was posthumously pardoned in 1998.

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As for Russell Pascoe,

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although he appealed claiming his accomplice, Whitty,

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was the murderer, he was turned down, and his execution took place

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only a week before Christmas, as Tony Benn wrote at the time.

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"This week's hanging in Bristol will probably be the last

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"that ever takes place there.

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"Meanwhile the public has had its pound of flesh

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"and we can sing our carols and eat our Christmas pudding

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"free from any slight embarrassment there might have been

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"if the execution had been fixed, for example,

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"on Christmas Day itself.

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"That would have been most inconsiderate."

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Tony Benn's forecast was correct.

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There were no more hangings at Bristol.

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And in the UK as a whole,

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only two more people were executed before Parliament debated

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halting the death penalty for a five-year trial period in 1965.

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In two and a half hours from now we shall know whether or not

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hanging for murder is likely to be abolished in Great Britain.

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Right up until the vote,

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pros and antis were still making their case on live television.

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But I believe that this particular penalty for particular people,

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namely professional criminals, is the one real deterrent.

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This argument about terrorists is the standard argument

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that's been put for 150 years in respect of every form

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of capital punishment, and has always been proved wrong.

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BELLS CHIME

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In the event,

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the free vote in the Commons went the way of the abolitionists.

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200 in favour to 98 against.

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It was a momentous event, and I do very well remember

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the law being passed, and that was the end of the matter.

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And we used to have public executions,

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we used to have the thumbscrew, we used to have the rack

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and all these things had to be campaigned against.

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And although public opinion remains divided about a return

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to the death penalty ever since,

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its suspension was confirmed four years later.

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The abolitionists had won.

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This is Bristol Prison's final Record Of Executions book,

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and in here we find the details of Russell Pascoe's hanging.

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17th December 1963.

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It was the last hanging here in Bristol,

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cos there's nothing on the next page.

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It's got his age, 24, his height, his build, it's even got

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the length of the drop of the rope to make sure he died instantly.

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I had the opportunity to meet up with prison officer Robert Douglas,

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who looked after Pascoe in his final days.

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First of all, let's clear something up.

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Why was someone appointed to look after a condemned prisoner?

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Well, you can't leave him on his own in case he hangs himself,

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believe it or not. Only the state can do the final harm.

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So he has to have somebody to make sure he doesn't try and cut his wrists, or whatever.

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Tell me what it was like in those final days with Pascoe.

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What kind of things did you do? What kind of things did you talk about?

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Well, the whole six weeks had been fairly easy, playing Monopoly,

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cards, listening to the radio, telling him jokes.

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But as it got near the end, and it began to look as if he was

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going to hang, his appeals, his avenue of appeals of getting off with it had gone down.

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It began to be a little bit tense.

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I suppose he knew it was just a few days,

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and if his last appeal went down to the Queen for clemency,

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he would hang the next day.

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Was he visited by anybody in those last few days?

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The hangman, of course, he came in, gave him a surprise, came in with the governor.

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The governor visits a condemned man every day.

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And the night before the governor came in,

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Harry Allen, the public hangman came in.

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Of course, never said who he was.

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And when the governor asked Pascoe, "You OK, son?" He said, "Yeah."

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And Harry Allen just stuck his hand out.

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And, of course, automatically, Pascoe took it.

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And shook hands. And then when he left, he said to us,

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"Who was that with the governor?"

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And we said, "Don't know."

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But I had just had supper with Harry Allen before I came on.

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-And he said, "That was the

-BLEEP

-hangman, wasn't it?"

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And I said, I looked at my mate, Ken, and he nodded, and I said, "Yeah, it was."

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-"What's he

-BLEEP

-want to shake hands with me for?"

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And I said, "It's just something Albert Pierrepoint used to do, and Harry Allen does it.

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"Maybe it makes their conscience feel a bit better."

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-"If I'd have known who he was," he said, "I wouldn't have

-BLEEP

-shook hands with him."

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Talk me through what happens from the moment Pascoe leaves his cell,

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during those final few minutes, and when he gets executed.

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Unlike most old prisons, Bristol was a little self-contained block.

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And when Harry Allen and his mate went in, to all the visitors,

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the people who witness it, had gone in,

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Harry Allen and his mate were the last two to go in,

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and Harry Allen lit a cigarette before they left,

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and put it in the ashtray.

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In the officer's mess, straight across, we watched them going in.

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And there's a clock at Bristol, a tower with a clock,

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and it began to chime, and they'd just walk him straight...

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They've already bound his arms,

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and the two officers walk him straight on top of the trapdoors.

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The officers stand on two planks, and they have a braided rope,

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each to hang on to, cos when the trap's open,

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they've only got the braided rope and the planks

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to save them following Pascoe through the floor.

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And we watched Harry Allen go in,

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and the clock began to chime eight, and at the fifth chime

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we heard - vroomph - the traps open and bang off the padded walls.

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And then, about a minute after that, over came Harry Allen out the cell,

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out the block again, into the mess and lifted his cigarette,

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which was only half burnt.

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Took a draw of his cigarette, rubbed his hands and said,

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"Any tea on the go?"

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And that was as quick as that.

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Incredible. Thanks very much indeed...

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-You're welcome.

-..for sharing that.

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Nice to meet you. Thank you.

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Here at Birmingham Central Police Station,

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these CCTV cameras look out for crime on city streets,

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but technology like this also keeps an eye out

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for troublemakers in our football stadiums.

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All's quiet today, though, at Villa Park.

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Over 3,000 English and Welsh fans were arrested

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at international and domestic football matches last year,

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but that is nothing compared to the mid '80s,

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when football hooliganism was known as the English disease.

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Today, things are much improved,

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but a local West Midlands derby clash is always a big test.

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This was football in the 1980s.

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Hooliganism that had been around as long as football itself

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had taken a serious turn for the worse.

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It reached its pitch in 1985,

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culminating in the death of a 14-year-old boy,

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crushed when a wall collapsed

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following violence at a Birmingham-Leeds match.

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And then the tragedy at Heysel, when rioting by English hooligans

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caused another wall to collapse,

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killing 39 fans and injuring more than 600.

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England had the worst reputation in the world for football violence.

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Our teams were banned from European club competitions.

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The time had come to clamp down hard.

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A raft of new legislation gave the police fresh power

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to tackle the hooligans and to start to turn the tables.

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-HE SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY

-Fast forward 26 years.

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In the West Midlands, there's a local Black Country derby

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between Premier League teams West Bromwich Albion

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and Wolverhampton Wanderers. Tensions are high.

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Traditionally, this particular fixture

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encourages quite a large number of "risk" fans

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- hooligans, if you like, of old - who are going to cause us problems

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and come here purely to have a fight.

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In the past, there has been hand-to-hand fighting

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immediately outside the stadium,

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there has been trouble inside the stadium as well.

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But, unlike in the '80s, now West Midlands police are ready for them.

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Last year what they did do was bring smoke bombs into the stadium.

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There is a very strict search regime being put in place

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and if anything like that is found,

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the expectation is that they will be arrested.

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Today, as well as all that, their special football unit,

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set up last year,

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has team spotters out on the ground tracking down the troublemakers.

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PC Andy Francis is a spotter for home team West Brom.

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It's a role that didn't exist in the '80s.

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He's dedicated to reducing violence between fans

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by monitoring their every move before the match

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in order to manage their behaviour.

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And sometimes, that means he's in the firing line.

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Several of the disorders we've been involved in

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whereby we've been targeted by fans with bricks, bottles,

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fireworks and physical violence.

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Andy knows each one of the West Brom "risk" supporters,

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and he's hunting them down.

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So, we know the normal pubs they use on match days,

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and basically we're doing a trawl round those at the moment

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to try and identify groups that are drinking in those areas.

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Afternoon.

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Come on, boys!

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How are ya? You all right? How you doing?

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# Albion, Albion, Albion, Albion... #

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How are you? All right, mate? How are you?

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# Albion, Albion... #

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-I been out of trouble.

-Nobody's saying...

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There's no trouble, there ain't nobody about.

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Andy will have to keep on searching till he finds his troublemakers.

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We'll come back later to see what happens

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in the two hours before kickoff.

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Now, every year, 6,000 prisoners harm themselves,

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and in 2010, 58 took their own lives.

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Although this is the lowest figure since 1996

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and the prison staff are highly trained

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to look out for the warning signs,

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they always have to be on their guard.

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On Bristol prison's G Wing, there are around 140 inmates,

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some of them young offenders between 18 and 21

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doing their first stretch behind bars.

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Staff use a monitoring system called ACCT,

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which stands for Assessment, Care in Custody, and Teamwork.

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A prisoner on the ACCT book is checked throughout the day.

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The staff get to know all the prisoners on the wing

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to assess the likelihood of self harm, but it's not easy.

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Many are only in for a short stay, so there's a constant turnover.

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Senior officer Mark Stroud currently has three prisoners

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who he knows are at risk.

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Danny is one of them. He's been inside for three months.

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He's trusted and has a job with Big Sam in the laundry section,

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where he's proved to be a good worker.

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Danny's currently on an ACCT book

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and he has a history of self harming by cutting,

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and by his own admission he does it as a coping strategy.

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The ACCT book system is designed to minimise distress amongst prisoners,

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and hopefully to avert any crisis.

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Take a seat, now.

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As well as the book itself, which officers use to log

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an individual's behaviour, they hold frequent review meetings,

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attended by the prisoner, to assess the level of care.

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We're here today to review your ACCT book.

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I know we spoke about it last night, but to give a bit of history,

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you cut yourself to act as a stress relief, as such.

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You told me you'd been doing this since you were 12 years old,

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so whether you were inside of prison or outside of prison,

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you would still be doing it.

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OK? It's been open for some time, your ACCT book, now.

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I have closed it in the past,

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but you've then self-harmed again, all right?

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You've had a stable period for the last couple of weeks,

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and when I spoke to you last night,

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my intention was to talk about closing this book.

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But then you produce a note pad

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where you've been writing down your thoughts,

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which completely changed my view at that time.

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Could you just explain

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what you've been doing with this notebook, to start with?

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OK. And does that help at all?

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There's some quite dark stuff in there

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where you've talked about self-harm, and possibly ending things.

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Um... Do you want to end things?

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-OK.

-There's one thing that's come up, now.

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There's a chance of you going to a bail hostel.

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Now, how do you feel about that?

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-Happy.

-Yeah?

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OK. Now, obviously the bail hostel have got concerns

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with regarding your self-harm.

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A bail hostel can't take anyone who's on the ACCT book,

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so Danny wants to come off it as soon as he can.

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What I would suggest

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is eventually, over the next, maybe, seven to ten days,

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is look at closing this ACCT document as we go along, yeah?

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You're shaking your head, Dan. What's the matter?

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-In what sense?

-Well...

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No, you've got to tell us.

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See, my concern now is,

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you've had a bit of bad news and you've gone introvert.

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Danny, if I was doing a review today, and that diary wasn't there,

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and you were on hourly observations in the daytime,

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I wouldn't shut this document anyway.

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What I'm suggesting, with everyone's agreement,

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is that we meet halfway, OK?

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We keep the diary going, reduce the observations

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-and do another case review in two days.

-Yep.

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Thank you.

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Over Danny's objections, the staff are going to delay

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the decision on the bail hostel

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and keep a very close eye on him for the next few days.

0:19:520:19:55

My only fear with that review is that Danny's going to go inward now

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rather than express his feelings as he has been by writing them down.

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Um...

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He wasn't that happy at the end of it,

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but we do have a duty of care with all prisoners,

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and we do have to address some very poignant problems they may have.

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So, that's it. In two days' time

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we'll review him again and see how he's feeling.

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It's a few days later,

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and Danny's had some good news from senior officer Mark Stroud.

0:20:260:20:30

Um, they kind of told me that I was off my ACCT book,

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so that was good.

0:20:340:20:36

Getting things sorted, now. Sort of... Much better.

0:20:360:20:41

People working together.

0:20:410:20:44

It's good.

0:20:440:20:45

His, uh...outlook on life's a lot better.

0:20:450:20:49

He still has thoughts of self-harming,

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but he has these thoughts every day, even when he's outside of prison,

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so we've decided to close his ACCT book.

0:20:570:20:59

He's still writing his thoughts down,

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and his manager in the CS sees those thoughts every day

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and if thoughts are getting more and more dark, shall we say,

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he's then to liaise with me.

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So, Mark, how is he feeling? And what's happened since?

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OK. Since we last spoke about him, he's had his ACCT book closed.

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He is feeling a lot better in himself.

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He's had ups and downs, don't get me wrong,

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but we've supported him through them.

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Hopefully, in a couple of weeks, he'll get out of prison.

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-That's great news.

-Yeah, it is.

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Now, as a Senior Officer, the biggest job for you, of course,

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is taking care of the prisoners whilst they're under your care.

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That's right.

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Self harm, suicide, is a big problem,

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-and you've had experience of that, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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A few years back, now,

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a prisoner who worked for me on the wing

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came into prison on an ACCT book,

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and eventually ended up killing himself, unfortunately.

0:21:540:21:58

I never saw it coming. I really didn't.

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It affected me quite badly,

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and it affected the other staff on the wing as well.

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-So it was quite a sad time.

-Mm.

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It goes to show, despite the warning signs,

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the fact you're highly trained in these things,

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you can't always tell what they're doing in their cells.

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Not at all.

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We cannot watch them 24 hours a day. Physically impossible.

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So if a prisoner is that desperate to take their own life,

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unfortunately, they will do it.

0:22:240:22:25

-Thanks for talking to us.

-Thank you.

0:22:250:22:27

Back at the West Brom and Wolves derby game,

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Wolves spotter PC Dickie Horn

0:22:350:22:37

is on the look-out for some known troublemakers.

0:22:370:22:41

Where you going to, gentlemen?

0:22:410:22:43

-You got tickets for the game?

-Yeah.

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Show me your tickets, then. Come over here.

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It's Dickie's job to make sure no-one who's banned

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gets near the grounds.

0:22:510:22:52

-And how are you getting to the game?

-Tram.

-On the tram.

0:22:520:22:55

'There's one of our risk element, older risk element,

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'who came off his football ban at midnight last night.'

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And he's already phoned up yesterday to clarify

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that he can go to the game today.

0:23:060:23:08

And we have already spoken to him

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and he states that he is going to the game,

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and that he is in the back of the pub just up the road there,

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Tap and Spile.

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Banning orders came into being in '86, following the Heysel tragedy.

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They're a vital weapon in the police armoury.

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Two different sorts - a criminal banning order,

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which means if they commit a football-related offence,

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or an offence linked to football,

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we can apply to the courts for them to get a ban,

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and also not attend the town or city or the area

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where their team are playing away from home.

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For those individuals that don't necessarily go far enough to get arrested,

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but who we know are actively engaged in organising violence,

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we will target those individuals

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and apply to the court for a civil banning order.

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And Dickie has just come across one of his banned supporters.

0:23:530:23:56

He's left the Moon and gone round to the Tap and Spile.

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He's come across...

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He's been come across by one of our other crews

0:24:020:24:05

who were out earlier, and apparently he's been a bit vocal,

0:24:050:24:11

causing a bit of a disturbance.

0:24:110:24:14

I've had two drinks.

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-I've gone to the bookies and you grabbed me.

-That's enough for you.

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Enough for me?.

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This fan's ban only prevents him from attending the game,

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but he could now find himself also on a Section 27 ban,

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keeping him out of the whole area.

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These are used if we believe the person has been in drink

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and potentially causing disorder or has antisocial behaviour,

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i.e. He's mouthing off in the street.

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You've been in the Moon Under Water

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when I checked you at 8:15 this morning.

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So you've been out for over two hours, drinking. You've had more than two pints.

0:24:460:24:49

MAN JEERS

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Locking people up is not always the end and be all of everything.

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We can say, "Look, don't be an idiot. You've had one two many, son.

0:24:550:24:59

"Here's a form, off you go."

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Cos they may be good, decent people, just had one too many beers.

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# We hate Albion Say we hate Albion

0:25:040:25:07

# We hate Albion Say we hate Albion... #

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You going to behave yourselves today?

0:25:100:25:12

Eh? What's the matter, Josh?

0:25:120:25:14

-What?

-What's the matter?

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I hope you behave yourself after last time, all right?

0:25:180:25:21

Yeah.

0:25:210:25:23

-You do look good, though, now.

-Thanks very much. Thank you.

0:25:230:25:27

There's just an hour and half to go till the 12 o'clock kickoff.

0:25:270:25:31

In West Bromwich, Andy is coming across

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plenty of good-natured revelry.

0:25:330:25:35

But he's concerned that he still hasn't located

0:25:350:25:38

the worst of his risk group.

0:25:380:25:40

I don't want you shouting any abuse.

0:25:440:25:46

'It is fairly quiet, yeah.

0:25:480:25:51

'There's not the normal amount of people out that we'd expect.'

0:25:510:25:54

That doesn't mean to say they're not out.

0:25:540:25:56

They're obviously somewhere else,

0:25:560:25:58

which hopefully we'll fall upon before the game.

0:25:580:26:00

PC Dickie Horn is having more luck in Wolverhampton.

0:26:030:26:06

He's found some of his fans in trouble at the tram station.

0:26:060:26:09

-Come on, man, he was swearing...

-Oi, oi.

0:26:110:26:14

One of the group has been ordered off the tram for swearing.

0:26:140:26:17

Your behaviour before was disgusting.

0:26:170:26:19

Yeah, he's going to behave himself now.

0:26:190:26:21

His mates are doing their best to get him back on board.

0:26:210:26:25

OK?

0:26:250:26:26

Let him back on, please, mate. Come on.

0:26:260:26:30

'We're firm, but fair, I would say.

0:26:310:26:34

'You know, they know we're about

0:26:340:26:35

'and we're there to stop them committing disorder, crime,'

0:26:350:26:38

and as soon as you know who they are, you can see...

0:26:380:26:41

We go to away games and the look on their faces

0:26:410:26:43

when you walk into the pub that they're in

0:26:430:26:46

and they realise you're about!

0:26:460:26:48

It's getting close to kickoff.

0:26:480:26:50

Time for the spotters to move into the stadium.

0:26:500:26:53

Still to come on Crime And Punishment -

0:26:550:26:57

with seconds to go before that derby clash, the West Midlands Police

0:26:570:27:01

hope all the action will be on the field and not on the terraces.

0:27:010:27:05

But that's where the risk group are, surprisingly enough.

0:27:050:27:08

Every morning, we all decide on what we're going to wear,

0:27:120:27:15

but in prison, that basic right is taken away from you.

0:27:150:27:19

In here, you share shirts, socks and even jocks.

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And it's all issued from the laundry room by Big Sam.

0:27:220:27:26

-Ah, you must be Big Sam.

-Hello.

-Gethin. Nice to meet you.

0:27:280:27:31

Pleased to meet you.

0:27:310:27:32

So this is the laundry room

0:27:320:27:34

or where you get issued your kit as a prisoner.

0:27:340:27:37

What would I be given when I first arrive?

0:27:370:27:39

You'll get this pack.

0:27:390:27:42

That is enough for seven days.

0:27:420:27:44

Clean kit - two blankets, two sheets, one pillow case,

0:27:440:27:47

two tracksuits, three T-shirts, seven socks, seven boxers,

0:27:470:27:52

-a set of plastics.

-Plastics?

0:27:520:27:54

Knife, fork, spoon, cup, plate and dish.

0:27:540:27:57

Obviously, we can't give the boys metals.

0:27:570:27:59

And china plates, or they'll end up smashing and stabbing them.

0:27:590:28:02

So we give them the basics in plastic.

0:28:020:28:05

And you get two toilet rolls. That's fine for you. Yeah.

0:28:050:28:08

But I'd be struggling.

0:28:080:28:09

We give out the greens over there for working,

0:28:110:28:13

like cleaners, painters. We've also got safety boots.

0:28:130:28:16

We ask them to wear the safety boots and the greens

0:28:160:28:19

whilst in the workshops.

0:28:190:28:21

-We have striped shirts, old-fashioned prison shirts.

-Yeah, they are.

0:28:210:28:25

Some of our old-school boys prefer that to tracksuit and T-shirts.

0:28:250:28:28

Some prisoners are allowed to wear their own clothes, depending on behaviour?

0:28:280:28:32

Depending on behaviour, yeah, you get boys that are on enhanced -

0:28:320:28:37

they will get their own clothing as long as it's of suitable nature.

0:28:370:28:41

But most prisoners... It cuts down on the bullying aspect.

0:28:410:28:44

Like your nice cardigan, it's not my cup of tea, but...

0:28:440:28:47

-Really?

-Yeah. You might get bullied for your cardigan.

0:28:470:28:50

-Because it'd be a form of, like, currency.

-Start bartering.

-Yeah.

0:28:510:28:56

Boys in here get paid 58 pence a session, £1.16 a day.

0:28:560:29:00

£1.16 a day?

0:29:000:29:01

You look at a packet of tobacco -

0:29:010:29:03

that's over half their wages gone on tobacco alone.

0:29:030:29:07

-What about your phone calls?

-Tobacco, phone calls -

0:29:070:29:10

-That's your weekly wage gone.

-Gone. Yeah.

0:29:100:29:12

If you've got no support from family or friends,

0:29:120:29:14

you've got no money, is that when...

0:29:140:29:16

maybe the bartering starts, the haggling,

0:29:160:29:18

possibly even the bullying.

0:29:180:29:20

There are anti-bullying policies and strategies

0:29:200:29:23

that we do try and keep in place,

0:29:230:29:25

but you'll appreciate we can't be all over the place all the time.

0:29:250:29:30

And it's obvious that you guys, the officers,

0:29:300:29:33

obviously have a good look-out and try and take care of the prisoners.

0:29:330:29:37

However, it just proves that it's nowhere near an easy ride here, is it?

0:29:370:29:42

Far from it.

0:29:420:29:43

People say it's like a holiday camp.

0:29:430:29:46

No.

0:29:460:29:47

-Is it all new kit for a prisoner?

-No.

0:29:470:29:50

-It's all recycled?

-Yeah.

-Right, OK.

0:29:500:29:52

It's like, what you've got on today, that kit there,

0:29:520:29:55

you'll have this week, and then in two weeks, it'll be on someone else's back.

0:29:550:29:58

-Really?

-Like, even your boxers and socks.

0:29:580:30:02

Your plastics. Here you go.

0:30:020:30:04

As you can see, it's been used before.

0:30:040:30:06

Obviously, that cup is just one the boys' drunk out of.

0:30:080:30:11

But the plate has been recycled,

0:30:110:30:13

it's been sanitised and cleaned and everything.

0:30:130:30:16

It's just... It's just...

0:30:160:30:18

all the privileges are taken away.

0:30:180:30:20

You know, all the things you take for granted outside,

0:30:200:30:24

like nice toilet paper or a knife and fork.

0:30:240:30:27

-It's just gone.

-Yeah, it is like a different world in here.

0:30:270:30:30

The washing machine room. Two machines - two washers, two dryers.

0:30:300:30:34

We wash here what we are short on.

0:30:340:30:36

-Are these on the go all the time?

-If there's staff in here, yeah.

0:30:370:30:40

Out the back is where they do the sorting out of the dirty clothing.

0:30:400:30:44

This is what's already been counted today, sorted today.

0:30:440:30:47

That's come from the weekend.

0:30:470:30:49

Ooh. What do you have to do with this?

0:30:490:30:52

All this is going to get picked up on Wednesday afternoon,

0:30:520:30:56

taken up to Leyhill. That'll get washed there properly.

0:30:560:30:59

-As you can imagine, the boxer shorts are starting to fester now.

-Yeah.

0:30:590:31:03

It's not good. Socks, that's the job that I hate the most, the socks.

0:31:030:31:07

-Don't touch them.

-That's all right.

0:31:070:31:09

-It's just been worn a couple of times.

-Yeah.

0:31:090:31:12

So do you fancy coming back in tomorrow, doing a shift out here?

0:31:120:31:16

58 pence.

0:31:160:31:17

I think I'm going to try and behave myself.

0:31:180:31:22

Yeah.

0:31:220:31:23

Over the last year, nearly 4.5 million crimes were

0:31:260:31:29

recorded in England and Wales.

0:31:290:31:30

And police seized an enormous amount of property.

0:31:300:31:33

Here's just some of it, piled up high to the ceiling.

0:31:330:31:36

It has all got to be kept as evidence.

0:31:360:31:39

-The person in charge of that is Karen. Busy already?

-Hello.

0:31:390:31:42

What sort of things do you have here? We can see suitcases, what sort of things do you find?

0:31:420:31:46

Well, there is an array of things.

0:31:460:31:48

You can see videotapes, clothing, mobile phones, you name it,

0:31:480:31:54

we have usually got it here somewhere.

0:31:540:31:56

And you have to keep it, because this could be potentially crucial?

0:31:560:31:59

Yes, these are kept here as evidence for the court case.

0:31:590:32:03

Once the court case is over, when the officer decides what to do with it.

0:32:030:32:06

Whether we return it to owners, or we get rid of it for the officer.

0:32:060:32:09

So it will stay here until that time, it could be months or years.

0:32:090:32:13

-And also lots of CCTV as well.

-Lots of CCTV, yes. We have to keep hold of this as well

0:32:130:32:18

until the officer says we can get rid of it.

0:32:180:32:21

Then it is securely shredded.

0:32:210:32:22

What is the strangest thing that you have ever had to look after?

0:32:220:32:27

-We have had a false limb handed in.

-You have?

0:32:270:32:29

-I have no idea how that happened, but...

-It really has happened?

0:32:290:32:33

Yes, somebody has taken the trouble to come into the police station.

0:32:330:32:37

And also, something that has changed over the years is this. I can't believe how many you've got!

0:32:370:32:42

Yes, I know, there are thousands of mobile phones.

0:32:420:32:44

Many of these will have been seized as evidence, won't they?

0:32:440:32:48

They will have been lost by someone, seized from somebody

0:32:480:32:51

and they all end up here.

0:32:510:32:54

As I say, these will be securely disposed of as well.

0:32:540:32:57

-Because there is data on it?

-Because you don't want anyone getting

0:32:570:33:00

hold of your mobile with your details. So if no owner is traced, they will be crushed.

0:33:000:33:07

-Crushed and recycled?

-They will be recycled.

0:33:070:33:11

-It's a great shame, really.

-It is a bit of a shame. Thank you very much anyway.

0:33:110:33:17

The football match we have been reporting on is about to start

0:33:200:33:23

and you would think that finding known troublemakers in a crowd of 25,000 fans

0:33:230:33:27

would be like searching for a needle in a haystack.

0:33:270:33:30

But today, thanks to cutting-edge technology,

0:33:300:33:32

West Midlands Police have an eye on things like never before.

0:33:320:33:37

CROWD CHANTS

0:33:410:33:45

In the control room at the football ground, there is another team dedicated

0:33:450:33:49

to keeping everyone at the match safe.

0:33:490:33:51

Inspector Howard Lewis-Jones, head of the police football unit,

0:33:510:33:56

is working closely with the club's safety officer, Mark Miles.

0:33:560:34:00

These days, the football clubs themselves take safety very seriously.

0:34:000:34:04

Thanks to his spotters on the ground, Howard knows exactly where all the potential troublemakers are.

0:34:040:34:10

He's got a ticket. He can come in. We know where he is.

0:34:110:34:16

Splendid. It has got to be a first at the moment. No arrests.

0:34:160:34:20

From this position, high above the ground,

0:34:200:34:22

Howard has an excellent view of the inside of the stadium.

0:34:220:34:25

But it's today's state-of-the-art technology that really puts him

0:34:250:34:29

one step ahead.

0:34:290:34:31

It is a world away from policing in the '80s.

0:34:310:34:33

The cameras have been put in place by the football club.

0:34:360:34:39

We are focusing predominantly on the away fans and the divide between the home and away fans.

0:34:390:34:44

But the nice thing about this camera is that not only can we look at it live,

0:34:440:34:49

we can zoom in it retrospectively.

0:34:490:34:51

For example, if a smoke bomb is set off on the away fans,

0:34:510:34:55

more often than not, the first you would see of it on the cameras would be a plume of smoke.

0:34:550:35:00

You'd miss the person taking it out of their pocket, lighting it and waving it around.

0:35:000:35:04

We can go in, zoom in retrospectively and hopefully get a positive ID.

0:35:040:35:08

Just five minutes to kickoff, the fans are being carefully monitored

0:35:090:35:13

and searched as they arrive at the ground.

0:35:130:35:15

And Howard is moving his officers into position inside.

0:35:150:35:19

Bronze 170, 170.

0:35:190:35:22

I'm going to need one of your serials to come into the ground onto the home side.

0:35:230:35:30

The home side of the divide. Could you let me know which one, please?

0:35:300:35:34

We've got another serial coming into here. Very soon you'll have 25,

0:35:340:35:37

25, 25 in the corner, and 25 across there.

0:35:370:35:41

Tension continues to build as the game gets under way.

0:35:450:35:48

CROWD ROARS

0:35:480:35:52

The terraces erupt as West Brom score. It is a critical moment.

0:35:520:35:56

Howard makes sure that the highest level of command,

0:35:560:35:59

Silver Command in a separate police control room, is aware.

0:35:590:36:03

Can you let Silver know, 1-0 West Brom as well. Makes a difference.

0:36:030:36:07

Just for your information, the stewards will be going into the corner, just to make sure there

0:36:080:36:14

are not any smoke bombs that have been left on the floor, discarded.

0:36:140:36:19

So if you do see them going in there, that is what they are doing.

0:36:190:36:22

It's all under control.

0:36:220:36:24

The match continues. They are keeping a careful watch on the known troublemakers, just in case.

0:36:310:36:36

Yes, thank you. For your information, that is where the risk fans from West Brom currently are.

0:36:370:36:43

That is where we anticipate there will be trouble

0:36:430:36:45

if there is going to be any.

0:36:450:36:48

That has done it!

0:36:490:36:50

That was a good goal.

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Howard's prediction is right.

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No sooner has a second goal been scored, when smoke can be seen

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rising from the corner where the risk supporters are.

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The police and stewards act quickly to deal with the disturbance.

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Yes, we have got it on camera.

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CROWD CHANT

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Can we make sure the camera's on it?

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Because we are going to be arresting someone in a minute.

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Yeah, the flare was taken away straightaway by one of the stewards.

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We are just trying to find out whether we can identify from the stewards...

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That is where the risk group are. Surprisingly enough.

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Unfortunately, this time, the culprit has managed

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to let off the smoke bomb unseen by the stewards and police.

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He hasn't, though, considered the cameras.

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If he is a known hooligan, he will soon be in custody.

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But they will need some time to scrutinise the footage.

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The match is soon over.

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Yeah, just for your information, the stewards are going to start

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pushing people away on the home side,

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so they have to go away from the actual divide to exit the stadium.

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Just for your information.

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Once the fans are out of the stadium, the control room starts to relax.

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Two arrests.

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One with a smoke bomb, which is good.

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And one at the end, taken out from the Wolves side.

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I'm assuming it was constant,

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perpetual, gesticulating, public order type issues.

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In recent years, what we have seen

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is that degree of violence that's occurred at football matches

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has got less and less as each season has progressed.

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And I'm pleased that the result of this particular fixture, things have improved again.

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Only two arrests made, only one person ejected.

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No real issues of significance. So, very, very pleased, very successful event.

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Now, I love a bit of cycling, but when it comes to

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bike maintenance I'm far from an expert,

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but here in the unlikely setting of Bristol Prison

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there's a workshop of blokes who know all about putting a bike together.

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Poppy, I was not expecting to see this in a prison.

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What exactly is happening here?

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Lifecycle is working with the prison to give inmates

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interesting things to do with their time here.

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The project we are running is about refurbishing old bikes.

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So we are getting old bikes, bringing them here,

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and teaching them how to fix them up.

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Then we're taking them out and selling them

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to people on low incomes who want to get cycling.

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So it is about refurbishing bikes, it is reducing waste, it is getting

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more people cycling, which is good for the environment.

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But above all, it is about giving people here an opportunity

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to learn skills that are really useful.

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You must have 40, maybe 50 bikes in the workshop at the moment.

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-Where did they come from?

-Well, the public donates them.

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Basically, we put out appeals in the local paper and on our website.

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And we get some from large organisations. We get some from the police.

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-From the police as well?

-Yeah, they come from all over the place.

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What kind of response have you had from these guys behind me?

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I think... They tell me that they really enjoy being given that opportunity to use their brains.

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It is rewarding, it is meaningful, it involves problem-solving.

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It is not just putting something in plastic bags and sealing them.

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It's much more involved than that.

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In terms of the bigger picture,

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do you think doing this in this workshop, working every day, helps them

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when they leave the prison and go back into the real world?

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Well, I really hope so. This is teaching them a really useful skill.

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Some of them, I'm sure, will go out and get jobs.

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-Have they got the cycling bug?

-I think so.

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The problem is that they are not allowed to cycle!

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-I mean, there is no...

-They are not allowed to cycle in prison?

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-In the prison, yes. You can see there is no...

-What about after?

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Do they have a desire to get on their bikes, after?

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They have certainly got the mechanic bug.

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And then the cycling bug will lead on from there.

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That's it from us for today. Join us again for more Crime And Punishment. Goodbye.

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