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Today on Crime And Punishment, tracking down the troublemakers. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
You've been here two hours, you've had more than two pints. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
And focussing new eyes on an old problem. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
Can we make sure the camera's on it? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Because we're going to be arresting somebody in a minute. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
And here in Bristol Prison, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
we'll be recalling one of the last hangings in Britain, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
with the officer who witnessed the condemned man's final days. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
I suppose he knew it was just a few days, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
and if his last appeal went down to the Queen for clemency, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
he would hang the next day. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
One of the major changes to our justice system | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
since the Queen came to the throne 60 years ago, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
happened in 1969, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
with the abolition of the death penalty. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Calls for its return began almost immediately, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
with the convictions of the Moors murderers, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Myra Hindley and Ian Brady. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Despite public cries to hang them, the law remained. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Even today, 43 years later, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
the debate about capital punishment is still a passionate one. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
One of Britain's last executions took place at Bristol Prison | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
at 8am on the 17th December 1963. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
In what became known as the Christmas Hanging, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
24-year-old Russell Pascoe paid the ultimate penalty | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
for his part in the murder of a Cornish farmer... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
..at exactly the same time as his partner in crime, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Dennis Whitty, was being hanged at Winchester. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Outside Horfield Prison, as it was known then, a huddle of demonstrators | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
had been protesting night and day against Pascoe's sentence. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
Among them, one of Bristol's MPs, Tony Benn. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Everything that I saw that day confirmed all my feelings about it. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
The whole thing was so gruesome, and it reminded me | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
of the fact that if you execute people, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
it's what the system does to you, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and everybody in society. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Benn was moved to write an article for The Guardian. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
This was not the flickering thrill of a TV lynching, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
but the killing of a real man, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
now sweating it out a few yards away behind the high walls, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
and who would in 24 hours' time be buried in quicklime, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
his death agony over. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
Back in the early 1800s, more than 200 crimes, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
like stealing sheep and pickpocketing, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
were punishable by death. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
In those days, hangings were carried out in public, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
in a party atmosphere that disgusted critics like Thackeray and Charles Dickens, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
who wrote articles attacking the spectacle. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
No sorrow, no salutary terror, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
nothing but ribaldry, debauchery, levity, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
drunkenness and flaunting vice in 50 other shapes. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
I should have deemed it impossible that I could have ever felt | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
any large assemblage of my fellow creatures to be so odious. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Dickens' writing helped bring about the abolition | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
of public executions in 1868, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
only for hangings to continue inside the prison gates | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
for another hundred years. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Ironically, the move behind closed doors | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
had taken capital punishment off the political agenda. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
But, by 1963 when Pascoe was hanged, the debate on whether or not | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
to abolish capital punishment was becoming ever more intense. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
The fact that it came at Christmas time, just before, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
when the mood was obviously changing, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
I think helped to bring about an atmosphere favourable | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
to the abolition of capital punishment. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
The controversy was fuelled by two cases in particular. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be executed, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
was later revealed to have been the victim of terrible abuse | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
by the man she shot, her lover, David Blakely. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
I tried to see the Home Secretary on that occasion, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
because I think that was a gross injustice. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
These days, attitudes to domestic abuse have changed so much | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
she'd have been able to plead diminished responsibility, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
and experts say she might have received a sentence | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
of just two or three years for manslaughter. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Derek Bentley was hanged for the death of PC Sidney Miles | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
during a botched warehouse burglary in Croydon, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
even though it was his underage accomplice, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Chris Craig, who fired the lethal shot. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Famously, Bentley was said to have shouted, "Let him have it, Chris." | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Debate still rages whether that meant he wanted Craig | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
to hand over the pistol, or use it to kill the advancing policeman. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Though both Bentley and Craig denied it was ever said at all. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
I think where there was a hanging, there was always an argument, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
was it right or not? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
But whether the guy was really guilty or not | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
didn't alter the fact that if you took a life | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
you were taking a moral decision that had to be questioned. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Bentley's family always questioned the decision against him, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
and as a result of the campaign, he was posthumously pardoned in 1998. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
As for Russell Pascoe, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
although he appealed claiming his accomplice, Whitty, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
was the murderer, he was turned down, and his execution took place | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
only a week before Christmas, as Tony Benn wrote at the time. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
"This week's hanging in Bristol will probably be the last | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
"that ever takes place there. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
"Meanwhile the public has had its pound of flesh | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
"and we can sing our carols and eat our Christmas pudding | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
"free from any slight embarrassment there might have been | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
"if the execution had been fixed, for example, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
"on Christmas Day itself. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
"That would have been most inconsiderate." | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Tony Benn's forecast was correct. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
There were no more hangings at Bristol. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
And in the UK as a whole, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
only two more people were executed before Parliament debated | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
halting the death penalty for a five-year trial period in 1965. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
In two and a half hours from now we shall know whether or not | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
hanging for murder is likely to be abolished in Great Britain. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Right up until the vote, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
pros and antis were still making their case on live television. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
But I believe that this particular penalty for particular people, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
namely professional criminals, is the one real deterrent. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
This argument about terrorists is the standard argument | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
that's been put for 150 years in respect of every form | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
of capital punishment, and has always been proved wrong. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
BELLS CHIME | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
In the event, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
the free vote in the Commons went the way of the abolitionists. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
200 in favour to 98 against. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
It was a momentous event, and I do very well remember | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
the law being passed, and that was the end of the matter. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
And we used to have public executions, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
we used to have the thumbscrew, we used to have the rack | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
and all these things had to be campaigned against. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
And although public opinion remains divided about a return | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
to the death penalty ever since, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
its suspension was confirmed four years later. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
The abolitionists had won. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
This is Bristol Prison's final Record Of Executions book, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
and in here we find the details of Russell Pascoe's hanging. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
17th December 1963. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
It was the last hanging here in Bristol, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
cos there's nothing on the next page. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
It's got his age, 24, his height, his build, it's even got | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
the length of the drop of the rope to make sure he died instantly. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
I had the opportunity to meet up with prison officer Robert Douglas, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
who looked after Pascoe in his final days. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
First of all, let's clear something up. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Why was someone appointed to look after a condemned prisoner? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Well, you can't leave him on his own in case he hangs himself, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
believe it or not. Only the state can do the final harm. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
So he has to have somebody to make sure he doesn't try and cut his wrists, or whatever. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
Tell me what it was like in those final days with Pascoe. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
What kind of things did you do? What kind of things did you talk about? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Well, the whole six weeks had been fairly easy, playing Monopoly, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
cards, listening to the radio, telling him jokes. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
But as it got near the end, and it began to look as if he was | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
going to hang, his appeals, his avenue of appeals of getting off with it had gone down. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
It began to be a little bit tense. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I suppose he knew it was just a few days, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
and if his last appeal went down to the Queen for clemency, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
he would hang the next day. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Was he visited by anybody in those last few days? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
The hangman, of course, he came in, gave him a surprise, came in with the governor. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
The governor visits a condemned man every day. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
And the night before the governor came in, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Harry Allen, the public hangman came in. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
Of course, never said who he was. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
And when the governor asked Pascoe, "You OK, son?" He said, "Yeah." | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
And Harry Allen just stuck his hand out. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
And, of course, automatically, Pascoe took it. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
And shook hands. And then when he left, he said to us, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
"Who was that with the governor?" | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
And we said, "Don't know." | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
But I had just had supper with Harry Allen before I came on. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-And he said, "That was the -BLEEP -hangman, wasn't it?" | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
And I said, I looked at my mate, Ken, and he nodded, and I said, "Yeah, it was." | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
-"What's he -BLEEP -want to shake hands with me for?" | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
And I said, "It's just something Albert Pierrepoint used to do, and Harry Allen does it. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
"Maybe it makes their conscience feel a bit better." | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
-"If I'd have known who he was," he said, "I wouldn't have -BLEEP -shook hands with him." | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
Talk me through what happens from the moment Pascoe leaves his cell, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
during those final few minutes, and when he gets executed. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
Unlike most old prisons, Bristol was a little self-contained block. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
And when Harry Allen and his mate went in, to all the visitors, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
the people who witness it, had gone in, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Harry Allen and his mate were the last two to go in, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
and Harry Allen lit a cigarette before they left, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
and put it in the ashtray. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
In the officer's mess, straight across, we watched them going in. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
And there's a clock at Bristol, a tower with a clock, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
and it began to chime, and they'd just walk him straight... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
They've already bound his arms, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
and the two officers walk him straight on top of the trapdoors. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
The officers stand on two planks, and they have a braided rope, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
each to hang on to, cos when the trap's open, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
they've only got the braided rope and the planks | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
to save them following Pascoe through the floor. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
And we watched Harry Allen go in, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
and the clock began to chime eight, and at the fifth chime | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
we heard - vroomph - the traps open and bang off the padded walls. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
And then, about a minute after that, over came Harry Allen out the cell, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
out the block again, into the mess and lifted his cigarette, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
which was only half burnt. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
Took a draw of his cigarette, rubbed his hands and said, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
"Any tea on the go?" | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
And that was as quick as that. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Incredible. Thanks very much indeed... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-You're welcome. -..for sharing that. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Nice to meet you. Thank you. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Here at Birmingham Central Police Station, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
these CCTV cameras look out for crime on city streets, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
but technology like this also keeps an eye out | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
for troublemakers in our football stadiums. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
All's quiet today, though, at Villa Park. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Over 3,000 English and Welsh fans were arrested | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
at international and domestic football matches last year, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
but that is nothing compared to the mid '80s, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
when football hooliganism was known as the English disease. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Today, things are much improved, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
but a local West Midlands derby clash is always a big test. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
This was football in the 1980s. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Hooliganism that had been around as long as football itself | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
had taken a serious turn for the worse. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
It reached its pitch in 1985, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
culminating in the death of a 14-year-old boy, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
crushed when a wall collapsed | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
following violence at a Birmingham-Leeds match. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And then the tragedy at Heysel, when rioting by English hooligans | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
caused another wall to collapse, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
killing 39 fans and injuring more than 600. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
England had the worst reputation in the world for football violence. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Our teams were banned from European club competitions. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
The time had come to clamp down hard. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
A raft of new legislation gave the police fresh power | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
to tackle the hooligans and to start to turn the tables. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-HE SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY -Fast forward 26 years. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
In the West Midlands, there's a local Black Country derby | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
between Premier League teams West Bromwich Albion | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
and Wolverhampton Wanderers. Tensions are high. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Traditionally, this particular fixture | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
encourages quite a large number of "risk" fans | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
- hooligans, if you like, of old - who are going to cause us problems | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
and come here purely to have a fight. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
In the past, there has been hand-to-hand fighting | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
immediately outside the stadium, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
there has been trouble inside the stadium as well. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
But, unlike in the '80s, now West Midlands police are ready for them. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
Last year what they did do was bring smoke bombs into the stadium. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
There is a very strict search regime being put in place | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
and if anything like that is found, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
the expectation is that they will be arrested. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Today, as well as all that, their special football unit, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
set up last year, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
has team spotters out on the ground tracking down the troublemakers. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
PC Andy Francis is a spotter for home team West Brom. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
It's a role that didn't exist in the '80s. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
He's dedicated to reducing violence between fans | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
by monitoring their every move before the match | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
in order to manage their behaviour. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
And sometimes, that means he's in the firing line. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Several of the disorders we've been involved in | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
whereby we've been targeted by fans with bricks, bottles, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
fireworks and physical violence. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Andy knows each one of the West Brom "risk" supporters, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
and he's hunting them down. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
So, we know the normal pubs they use on match days, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
and basically we're doing a trawl round those at the moment | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
to try and identify groups that are drinking in those areas. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Afternoon. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Come on, boys! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
How are ya? You all right? How you doing? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
# Albion, Albion, Albion, Albion... # | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
How are you? All right, mate? How are you? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
# Albion, Albion... # | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-I been out of trouble. -Nobody's saying... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
There's no trouble, there ain't nobody about. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Andy will have to keep on searching till he finds his troublemakers. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
We'll come back later to see what happens | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
in the two hours before kickoff. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Now, every year, 6,000 prisoners harm themselves, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
and in 2010, 58 took their own lives. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Although this is the lowest figure since 1996 | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
and the prison staff are highly trained | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
to look out for the warning signs, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
they always have to be on their guard. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
On Bristol prison's G Wing, there are around 140 inmates, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
some of them young offenders between 18 and 21 | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
doing their first stretch behind bars. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Staff use a monitoring system called ACCT, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
which stands for Assessment, Care in Custody, and Teamwork. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
A prisoner on the ACCT book is checked throughout the day. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
The staff get to know all the prisoners on the wing | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
to assess the likelihood of self harm, but it's not easy. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Many are only in for a short stay, so there's a constant turnover. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Senior officer Mark Stroud currently has three prisoners | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
who he knows are at risk. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Danny is one of them. He's been inside for three months. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
He's trusted and has a job with Big Sam in the laundry section, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
where he's proved to be a good worker. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Danny's currently on an ACCT book | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
and he has a history of self harming by cutting, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
and by his own admission he does it as a coping strategy. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
The ACCT book system is designed to minimise distress amongst prisoners, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
and hopefully to avert any crisis. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Take a seat, now. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
As well as the book itself, which officers use to log | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
an individual's behaviour, they hold frequent review meetings, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
attended by the prisoner, to assess the level of care. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
We're here today to review your ACCT book. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I know we spoke about it last night, but to give a bit of history, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
you cut yourself to act as a stress relief, as such. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
You told me you'd been doing this since you were 12 years old, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
so whether you were inside of prison or outside of prison, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
you would still be doing it. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
OK? It's been open for some time, your ACCT book, now. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I have closed it in the past, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
but you've then self-harmed again, all right? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
You've had a stable period for the last couple of weeks, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
and when I spoke to you last night, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
my intention was to talk about closing this book. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
But then you produce a note pad | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
where you've been writing down your thoughts, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
which completely changed my view at that time. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Could you just explain | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
what you've been doing with this notebook, to start with? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
OK. And does that help at all? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
There's some quite dark stuff in there | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
where you've talked about self-harm, and possibly ending things. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Um... Do you want to end things? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-OK. -There's one thing that's come up, now. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
There's a chance of you going to a bail hostel. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Now, how do you feel about that? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-Happy. -Yeah? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
OK. Now, obviously the bail hostel have got concerns | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
with regarding your self-harm. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
A bail hostel can't take anyone who's on the ACCT book, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
so Danny wants to come off it as soon as he can. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
What I would suggest | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
is eventually, over the next, maybe, seven to ten days, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
is look at closing this ACCT document as we go along, yeah? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
You're shaking your head, Dan. What's the matter? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-In what sense? -Well... | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
No, you've got to tell us. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
See, my concern now is, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
you've had a bit of bad news and you've gone introvert. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Danny, if I was doing a review today, and that diary wasn't there, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
and you were on hourly observations in the daytime, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
I wouldn't shut this document anyway. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
What I'm suggesting, with everyone's agreement, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
is that we meet halfway, OK? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
We keep the diary going, reduce the observations | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-and do another case review in two days. -Yep. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Thank you. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
Over Danny's objections, the staff are going to delay | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
the decision on the bail hostel | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
and keep a very close eye on him for the next few days. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
My only fear with that review is that Danny's going to go inward now | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
rather than express his feelings as he has been by writing them down. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
Um... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:06 | |
He wasn't that happy at the end of it, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
but we do have a duty of care with all prisoners, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
and we do have to address some very poignant problems they may have. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
So, that's it. In two days' time | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
we'll review him again and see how he's feeling. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
It's a few days later, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
and Danny's had some good news from senior officer Mark Stroud. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Um, they kind of told me that I was off my ACCT book, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
so that was good. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Getting things sorted, now. Sort of... Much better. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
People working together. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
It's good. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
His, uh...outlook on life's a lot better. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
He still has thoughts of self-harming, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
but he has these thoughts every day, even when he's outside of prison, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
so we've decided to close his ACCT book. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
He's still writing his thoughts down, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and his manager in the CS sees those thoughts every day | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
and if thoughts are getting more and more dark, shall we say, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
he's then to liaise with me. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
So, Mark, how is he feeling? And what's happened since? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
OK. Since we last spoke about him, he's had his ACCT book closed. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
He is feeling a lot better in himself. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
He's had ups and downs, don't get me wrong, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
but we've supported him through them. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Hopefully, in a couple of weeks, he'll get out of prison. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
-That's great news. -Yeah, it is. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Now, as a Senior Officer, the biggest job for you, of course, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
is taking care of the prisoners whilst they're under your care. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
That's right. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
Self harm, suicide, is a big problem, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
-and you've had experience of that, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
A few years back, now, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
a prisoner who worked for me on the wing | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
came into prison on an ACCT book, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
and eventually ended up killing himself, unfortunately. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I never saw it coming. I really didn't. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
It affected me quite badly, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
and it affected the other staff on the wing as well. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-So it was quite a sad time. -Mm. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
It goes to show, despite the warning signs, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
the fact you're highly trained in these things, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
you can't always tell what they're doing in their cells. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Not at all. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
We cannot watch them 24 hours a day. Physically impossible. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
So if a prisoner is that desperate to take their own life, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
unfortunately, they will do it. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
-Thanks for talking to us. -Thank you. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Back at the West Brom and Wolves derby game, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Wolves spotter PC Dickie Horn | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
is on the look-out for some known troublemakers. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Where you going to, gentlemen? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-You got tickets for the game? -Yeah. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Show me your tickets, then. Come over here. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
It's Dickie's job to make sure no-one who's banned | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
gets near the grounds. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
-And how are you getting to the game? -Tram. -On the tram. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
'There's one of our risk element, older risk element, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
'who came off his football ban at midnight last night.' | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
And he's already phoned up yesterday to clarify | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
that he can go to the game today. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
And we have already spoken to him | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
and he states that he is going to the game, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
and that he is in the back of the pub just up the road there, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Tap and Spile. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
Banning orders came into being in '86, following the Heysel tragedy. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
They're a vital weapon in the police armoury. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Two different sorts - a criminal banning order, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
which means if they commit a football-related offence, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
or an offence linked to football, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:31 | |
we can apply to the courts for them to get a ban, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and also not attend the town or city or the area | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
where their team are playing away from home. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
For those individuals that don't necessarily go far enough to get arrested, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
but who we know are actively engaged in organising violence, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
we will target those individuals | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and apply to the court for a civil banning order. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
And Dickie has just come across one of his banned supporters. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
He's left the Moon and gone round to the Tap and Spile. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
He's come across... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
He's been come across by one of our other crews | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
who were out earlier, and apparently he's been a bit vocal, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:11 | |
causing a bit of a disturbance. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
I've had two drinks. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
-I've gone to the bookies and you grabbed me. -That's enough for you. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Enough for me?. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:20 | |
This fan's ban only prevents him from attending the game, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
but he could now find himself also on a Section 27 ban, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
keeping him out of the whole area. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
These are used if we believe the person has been in drink | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
and potentially causing disorder or has antisocial behaviour, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
i.e. He's mouthing off in the street. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
You've been in the Moon Under Water | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
when I checked you at 8:15 this morning. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
So you've been out for over two hours, drinking. You've had more than two pints. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
MAN JEERS | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Locking people up is not always the end and be all of everything. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
We can say, "Look, don't be an idiot. You've had one two many, son. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
"Here's a form, off you go." | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
Cos they may be good, decent people, just had one too many beers. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
# We hate Albion Say we hate Albion | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
# We hate Albion Say we hate Albion... # | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
You going to behave yourselves today? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
Eh? What's the matter, Josh? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
-What? -What's the matter? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
I hope you behave yourself after last time, all right? | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
-You do look good, though, now. -Thanks very much. Thank you. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
There's just an hour and half to go till the 12 o'clock kickoff. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
In West Bromwich, Andy is coming across | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
plenty of good-natured revelry. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
But he's concerned that he still hasn't located | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
the worst of his risk group. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
I don't want you shouting any abuse. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
'It is fairly quiet, yeah. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
'There's not the normal amount of people out that we'd expect.' | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
That doesn't mean to say they're not out. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
They're obviously somewhere else, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
which hopefully we'll fall upon before the game. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
PC Dickie Horn is having more luck in Wolverhampton. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
He's found some of his fans in trouble at the tram station. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
-Come on, man, he was swearing... -Oi, oi. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
One of the group has been ordered off the tram for swearing. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Your behaviour before was disgusting. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Yeah, he's going to behave himself now. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
His mates are doing their best to get him back on board. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
OK? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
Let him back on, please, mate. Come on. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
'We're firm, but fair, I would say. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
'You know, they know we're about | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
'and we're there to stop them committing disorder, crime,' | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
and as soon as you know who they are, you can see... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
We go to away games and the look on their faces | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
when you walk into the pub that they're in | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and they realise you're about! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
It's getting close to kickoff. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Time for the spotters to move into the stadium. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
Still to come on Crime And Punishment - | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
with seconds to go before that derby clash, the West Midlands Police | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
hope all the action will be on the field and not on the terraces. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
But that's where the risk group are, surprisingly enough. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Every morning, we all decide on what we're going to wear, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
but in prison, that basic right is taken away from you. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
In here, you share shirts, socks and even jocks. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
And it's all issued from the laundry room by Big Sam. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
-Ah, you must be Big Sam. -Hello. -Gethin. Nice to meet you. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Pleased to meet you. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
So this is the laundry room | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
or where you get issued your kit as a prisoner. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
What would I be given when I first arrive? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
You'll get this pack. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
That is enough for seven days. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Clean kit - two blankets, two sheets, one pillow case, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
two tracksuits, three T-shirts, seven socks, seven boxers, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
-a set of plastics. -Plastics? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Knife, fork, spoon, cup, plate and dish. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Obviously, we can't give the boys metals. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
And china plates, or they'll end up smashing and stabbing them. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
So we give them the basics in plastic. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
And you get two toilet rolls. That's fine for you. Yeah. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
But I'd be struggling. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:09 | |
We give out the greens over there for working, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
like cleaners, painters. We've also got safety boots. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
We ask them to wear the safety boots and the greens | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
whilst in the workshops. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
-We have striped shirts, old-fashioned prison shirts. -Yeah, they are. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
Some of our old-school boys prefer that to tracksuit and T-shirts. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
Some prisoners are allowed to wear their own clothes, depending on behaviour? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Depending on behaviour, yeah, you get boys that are on enhanced - | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
they will get their own clothing as long as it's of suitable nature. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
But most prisoners... It cuts down on the bullying aspect. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Like your nice cardigan, it's not my cup of tea, but... | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
-Really? -Yeah. You might get bullied for your cardigan. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
-Because it'd be a form of, like, currency. -Start bartering. -Yeah. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
Boys in here get paid 58 pence a session, £1.16 a day. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
£1.16 a day? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
You look at a packet of tobacco - | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
that's over half their wages gone on tobacco alone. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
-What about your phone calls? -Tobacco, phone calls - | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
-That's your weekly wage gone. -Gone. Yeah. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
If you've got no support from family or friends, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
you've got no money, is that when... | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
maybe the bartering starts, the haggling, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
possibly even the bullying. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
There are anti-bullying policies and strategies | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
that we do try and keep in place, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
but you'll appreciate we can't be all over the place all the time. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
And it's obvious that you guys, the officers, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
obviously have a good look-out and try and take care of the prisoners. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
However, it just proves that it's nowhere near an easy ride here, is it? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
Far from it. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:43 | |
People say it's like a holiday camp. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
No. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
-Is it all new kit for a prisoner? -No. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-It's all recycled? -Yeah. -Right, OK. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
It's like, what you've got on today, that kit there, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
you'll have this week, and then in two weeks, it'll be on someone else's back. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
-Really? -Like, even your boxers and socks. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Your plastics. Here you go. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
As you can see, it's been used before. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Obviously, that cup is just one the boys' drunk out of. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
But the plate has been recycled, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
it's been sanitised and cleaned and everything. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
It's just... It's just... | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
all the privileges are taken away. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
You know, all the things you take for granted outside, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
like nice toilet paper or a knife and fork. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
-It's just gone. -Yeah, it is like a different world in here. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
The washing machine room. Two machines - two washers, two dryers. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
We wash here what we are short on. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-Are these on the go all the time? -If there's staff in here, yeah. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Out the back is where they do the sorting out of the dirty clothing. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
This is what's already been counted today, sorted today. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
That's come from the weekend. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Ooh. What do you have to do with this? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
All this is going to get picked up on Wednesday afternoon, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
taken up to Leyhill. That'll get washed there properly. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
-As you can imagine, the boxer shorts are starting to fester now. -Yeah. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
It's not good. Socks, that's the job that I hate the most, the socks. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
-Don't touch them. -That's all right. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
-It's just been worn a couple of times. -Yeah. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
So do you fancy coming back in tomorrow, doing a shift out here? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
58 pence. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
I think I'm going to try and behave myself. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
Over the last year, nearly 4.5 million crimes were | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
recorded in England and Wales. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
And police seized an enormous amount of property. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Here's just some of it, piled up high to the ceiling. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
It has all got to be kept as evidence. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
-The person in charge of that is Karen. Busy already? -Hello. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
What sort of things do you have here? We can see suitcases, what sort of things do you find? | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
Well, there is an array of things. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
You can see videotapes, clothing, mobile phones, you name it, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
we have usually got it here somewhere. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
And you have to keep it, because this could be potentially crucial? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Yes, these are kept here as evidence for the court case. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
Once the court case is over, when the officer decides what to do with it. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Whether we return it to owners, or we get rid of it for the officer. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
So it will stay here until that time, it could be months or years. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
-And also lots of CCTV as well. -Lots of CCTV, yes. We have to keep hold of this as well | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
until the officer says we can get rid of it. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Then it is securely shredded. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
What is the strangest thing that you have ever had to look after? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
-We have had a false limb handed in. -You have? | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
-I have no idea how that happened, but... -It really has happened? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
Yes, somebody has taken the trouble to come into the police station. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
And also, something that has changed over the years is this. I can't believe how many you've got! | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
Yes, I know, there are thousands of mobile phones. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Many of these will have been seized as evidence, won't they? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
They will have been lost by someone, seized from somebody | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
and they all end up here. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
As I say, these will be securely disposed of as well. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
-Because there is data on it? -Because you don't want anyone getting | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
hold of your mobile with your details. So if no owner is traced, they will be crushed. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:07 | |
-Crushed and recycled? -They will be recycled. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
-It's a great shame, really. -It is a bit of a shame. Thank you very much anyway. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:17 | |
The football match we have been reporting on is about to start | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
and you would think that finding known troublemakers in a crowd of 25,000 fans | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
would be like searching for a needle in a haystack. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
But today, thanks to cutting-edge technology, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
West Midlands Police have an eye on things like never before. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
CROWD CHANTS | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
In the control room at the football ground, there is another team dedicated | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
to keeping everyone at the match safe. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Inspector Howard Lewis-Jones, head of the police football unit, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
is working closely with the club's safety officer, Mark Miles. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
These days, the football clubs themselves take safety very seriously. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
Thanks to his spotters on the ground, Howard knows exactly where all the potential troublemakers are. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:10 | |
He's got a ticket. He can come in. We know where he is. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
Splendid. It has got to be a first at the moment. No arrests. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
From this position, high above the ground, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Howard has an excellent view of the inside of the stadium. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
But it's today's state-of-the-art technology that really puts him | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
one step ahead. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
It is a world away from policing in the '80s. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
The cameras have been put in place by the football club. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
We are focusing predominantly on the away fans and the divide between the home and away fans. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
But the nice thing about this camera is that not only can we look at it live, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
we can zoom in it retrospectively. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
For example, if a smoke bomb is set off on the away fans, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
more often than not, the first you would see of it on the cameras would be a plume of smoke. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
You'd miss the person taking it out of their pocket, lighting it and waving it around. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
We can go in, zoom in retrospectively and hopefully get a positive ID. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Just five minutes to kickoff, the fans are being carefully monitored | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
and searched as they arrive at the ground. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
And Howard is moving his officers into position inside. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
Bronze 170, 170. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
I'm going to need one of your serials to come into the ground onto the home side. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:30 | |
The home side of the divide. Could you let me know which one, please? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
We've got another serial coming into here. Very soon you'll have 25, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
25, 25 in the corner, and 25 across there. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Tension continues to build as the game gets under way. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
The terraces erupt as West Brom score. It is a critical moment. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
Howard makes sure that the highest level of command, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Silver Command in a separate police control room, is aware. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
Can you let Silver know, 1-0 West Brom as well. Makes a difference. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
Just for your information, the stewards will be going into the corner, just to make sure there | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
are not any smoke bombs that have been left on the floor, discarded. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
So if you do see them going in there, that is what they are doing. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
It's all under control. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
The match continues. They are keeping a careful watch on the known troublemakers, just in case. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
Yes, thank you. For your information, that is where the risk fans from West Brom currently are. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:43 | |
That is where we anticipate there will be trouble | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
if there is going to be any. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
That has done it! | 0:36:49 | 0:36:50 | |
That was a good goal. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Howard's prediction is right. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
No sooner has a second goal been scored, when smoke can be seen | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
rising from the corner where the risk supporters are. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
The police and stewards act quickly to deal with the disturbance. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Yes, we have got it on camera. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
CROWD CHANT | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
Can we make sure the camera's on it? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Because we are going to be arresting someone in a minute. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Yeah, the flare was taken away straightaway by one of the stewards. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
We are just trying to find out whether we can identify from the stewards... | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
That is where the risk group are. Surprisingly enough. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
Unfortunately, this time, the culprit has managed | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
to let off the smoke bomb unseen by the stewards and police. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
He hasn't, though, considered the cameras. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
If he is a known hooligan, he will soon be in custody. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
But they will need some time to scrutinise the footage. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
The match is soon over. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Yeah, just for your information, the stewards are going to start | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
pushing people away on the home side, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
so they have to go away from the actual divide to exit the stadium. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
Just for your information. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
Once the fans are out of the stadium, the control room starts to relax. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Two arrests. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:21 | |
One with a smoke bomb, which is good. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
And one at the end, taken out from the Wolves side. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
I'm assuming it was constant, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
perpetual, gesticulating, public order type issues. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
In recent years, what we have seen | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
is that degree of violence that's occurred at football matches | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
has got less and less as each season has progressed. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
And I'm pleased that the result of this particular fixture, things have improved again. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
Only two arrests made, only one person ejected. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
No real issues of significance. So, very, very pleased, very successful event. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
Now, I love a bit of cycling, but when it comes to | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
bike maintenance I'm far from an expert, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
but here in the unlikely setting of Bristol Prison | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
there's a workshop of blokes who know all about putting a bike together. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Poppy, I was not expecting to see this in a prison. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
What exactly is happening here? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Lifecycle is working with the prison to give inmates | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
interesting things to do with their time here. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
The project we are running is about refurbishing old bikes. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
So we are getting old bikes, bringing them here, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
and teaching them how to fix them up. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
Then we're taking them out and selling them | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
to people on low incomes who want to get cycling. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
So it is about refurbishing bikes, it is reducing waste, it is getting | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
more people cycling, which is good for the environment. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
But above all, it is about giving people here an opportunity | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
to learn skills that are really useful. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
You must have 40, maybe 50 bikes in the workshop at the moment. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
-Where did they come from? -Well, the public donates them. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Basically, we put out appeals in the local paper and on our website. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
And we get some from large organisations. We get some from the police. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
-From the police as well? -Yeah, they come from all over the place. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
What kind of response have you had from these guys behind me? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
I think... They tell me that they really enjoy being given that opportunity to use their brains. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:28 | |
It is rewarding, it is meaningful, it involves problem-solving. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
It is not just putting something in plastic bags and sealing them. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
It's much more involved than that. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
In terms of the bigger picture, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
do you think doing this in this workshop, working every day, helps them | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
when they leave the prison and go back into the real world? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
Well, I really hope so. This is teaching them a really useful skill. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:58 | |
Some of them, I'm sure, will go out and get jobs. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
-Have they got the cycling bug? -I think so. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
The problem is that they are not allowed to cycle! | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-I mean, there is no... -They are not allowed to cycle in prison? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-In the prison, yes. You can see there is no... -What about after? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Do they have a desire to get on their bikes, after? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
They have certainly got the mechanic bug. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
And then the cycling bug will lead on from there. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
That's it from us for today. Join us again for more Crime And Punishment. Goodbye. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
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