Episode 14 Dom on the Spot


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'Never before have so many on-the-spot fines

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'been issued in Britain.

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'We're going to be following the men and women who hand out

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'over ?30 million worth of tickets every month...'

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Oops. Round here, they are an absolute blight.

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I'm up to 104, now. Wow.

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That is disgusting. Just walk away. HE GRUNTS

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'..for behaviour that's downright dangerous...'

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That was stupid for these sort of conditions, wasn't it?

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'..simply selfish...' Look at the mess you've created in the street.

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How is that our fault? '..or just...'

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What is he doing?

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'..well, plain silly.'

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What a doughnut.

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'We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour...'

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?100 fine.

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Pays ?260. Ouch.

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'..and how this could affect you.'

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I'll give him a punch. Do you want to see me kick off?

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'The police are on it.' What the f-? Sir!

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'The parking wardens are on it...'

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They should be thanking us for being here. '..and I'm on it.'

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Careful! It's a 30mph limit here!

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'I'm Dom Littlewood and I'm on the spot.'

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'This time it's a case of stop-and-fine on our highways...'

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How do you feel about the fact you were stopped? BLEEP off!

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'..and a flaming fly-tip in Buckinghamshire.'

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Look, you can see the flames right up there.

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'But who's going to pay the penalty?'

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That's the pile that I believe you dumped. Did you?

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'And it's time to face the fines on the streets of London.'

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I am actually going to

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say something that you're really not going to be happy with.

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I'm in Gloucestershire in the back seat of an unmarked police car

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in hot pursuit of a vehicle... Oscar-Tango 5-6.

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..with traffic police PC Shelley Holloway and PC Olly Buxton.

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He's still holding something in his hand.

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Just clearly not paying attention.

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'The unmarked car is the perfect cover to keep the motorway safer by

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'sniffing out misbehaving motorists and issuing on-the-spot fines.'

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Olly just spotted somebody in a vehicle there with his mobile

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phone in his hand. Not using it at this point.

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What Shelley's done, she's dropped into this inside lane now

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to allow this person to overtake

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just to see if he's suddenly using his phone.

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'If he is, it could be three penalty points on his licence

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'and a fine of ?100.'

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I think he's got it in his left hand,

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holding it up in front of his face.

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That's probably a satnav thing, is it? Where he's using it?

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No, I think he's talking on loudspeaker perhaps.

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He's just passed. No, he's seen us now. He's seen us.

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He knows that we're police. Well, I think it's worth a chat.

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Cos I saw him holding it in his hand, so...

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He's put his seatbelt on as well now. See that?

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Put his seatbelt... That's when he wobbled.

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Not wearing a seatbelt. It just gets worse.

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That's an offence that could hit him with an on-the-spot fine of ?100.

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How's it going? Can I see your phone, please?

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Who were you on the phone to? What were you holding your camera for?

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The driver claims he's been using his camera but Shelley is not

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taking his word for it.

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Who were you on the phone to? You were holding it in your hand.

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There's a lot of activity on your phone, isn't there?

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And suddenly all the call history has just gone.

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All the call history is gone. That's messages.

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All the call history is gone.

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So where are they from the previous day?

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It doesn't wash with me that you were using it,

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holding a camera in your hand. It doesn't wash with me.

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Have you got points on your licence at the moment?

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Can I have your driving licence? No identification on you?

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What's the situation here, Shelley?

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So, he's point-blank denied using his mobile phone.

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There's no call history for today, which is unusual.

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Lots of text messages exchanged but nothing recent.

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There is activity on his phone and there's

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a voicemail icon up ready to notify him he's got a voicemail.

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He's saying he was holding his camera in his hand and didn't

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realise but he has admitted not wearing his seatbelt. Right.

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So... What do you feel about that?

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He's obviously someone who's quite switched on, isn't he?

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Yeah. We get it all the time.

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They think they're using excuses and, you know,

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I can't prove categorically he was using his phone.

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All we do know he was holding something in his hand and

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he has got a camera and a phone on the passenger seat.

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Obviously you know why you've been stopped. Yeah.

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The officers thought you were on the phone

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and you weren't wearing a seatbelt, I believe.

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Yeah. No seatbelt, yeah.

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How do you feel about the fact you were stopped? Erm...

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Be honest. Erm... BLEEP.

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Yeah. But it's my own fault. I wasn't on the phone.

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But I wasn't wearing a seatbelt. So, you know. OK.

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Caught again. Second time. Second time, no seatbelt. Yeah.

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Why wouldn't you wear it? I don't know.

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I just jump in lorries in the morning and they haven't got any

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so you get lazy, don't you, I suppose.

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When you say you're cheesed off about being stopped, is that

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with the officers or yourself? With myself.

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I don't know if you're going to receive a fixed penalty notice,

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whether they do that at the moment. If you do...

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If they do, then I just have to pay it and be more cautious in future.

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Yeah. Do you have any resentment about being pulled over?

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No, not really. No. Will it change the way you drive? Yeah.

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I'll put my seatbelt on for a bit so, yeah.

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At what point did you realise that you were about to be pulled over?

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When I seen all them yellow jackets. Ah, right. Yeah.

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Then I put my seatbelt on quick. So, what stacks up in this case?

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He could have been using his mobile phone.

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That would be a ?100 fine plus three penalty points.

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And not wearing his seatbelt, that could be another ?100 fine.

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Shelley's decided to drop the phone charge.

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But what about the other offence he admitted to?

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What we will deal him for is the seatbelt. OK. So there it is.

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A ?100 fine and all for not belting up.

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Does it annoy you when you get someone like him who

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has got excuses that you have to take as being true

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and your instinct might not necessarily think it is?

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Is it frustrating?

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It's annoying that people aren't as honest as what they should be,

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but I think it will still stop him using it in the future.

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'One on-the-spot fine down and we're back on the motorway.'

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We've got a trailer in the middle lane.

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I don't know if you notice there, the right wheel is clearly...

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I would say that's probably beyond unbalanced.

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That's actually the bearing on it because it's... It's wobbling badly.

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It's wobbling badly, so I don't think it'll be very long

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before that will fly off.

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You know, he's travelling in excess of the speed limit.

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When you're towing a trailer, it's 60mph and he's doing 70.

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So we'll just do a following check and see before we stop him.

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'If his wheel falls off at 70mph, he'll have

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'a lot more to worry about than just a fine.'

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There's a fair old wobble on that trailer, isn't there? Yeah.

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Don't brake on lane one. Use the hard shoulder, please.

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You do sometimes get that where people will actually just

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stop in the lane. Really? I've had it in lane three. On a motorway?

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On a motorway. I'll go and have a word with him. OK, no problem.

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Maybe he didn't know the speed limit.

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Nope, he's got it written on the back. No excuses there then.

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So, it's this wheel here.

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Have you got a tool or anything to remove the cap

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so I can check all your wheel nuts are present?

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'The offending wheel will be scrutinised once PC Holloway's found the right tools.'

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Don't worry. I'll get the crowbar then. You've just been stopped.

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Were you aware you could only do 60? Yes. Yeah. OK.

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I thought as much, cos you've got a sticker on your trailer there.

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And I do try and keep to it, but... That's good.

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..on this occasion I was going faster. I don't normally speed.

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What will Shelley find?

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A car that is seriously unroadworthy can earn the driver a ?5,000 fine.

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So, what are we dealing with here?

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A driver breaking the 60mph speed limit for a car towing

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a trailer, and that can be a ?100 fine.

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And the trailer itself, which appears to be unroadworthy,

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that can be up to a ?5,000 fine.

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But has Shelley been able to find anything conclusive?

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Could be the brake on one side. You just don't know.

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Could be a lot of things. Just get it checked. All right.

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I will do that. OK, thanks for your time. Take care. Bye-bye.

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Shelley hasn't found anything obviously wrong with the trailer,

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so he can continue on his way with no fine and just a warning.

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Shelley, you could have potentially written out two tickets on that last stop.

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What made you decide to give the guy just an advisory note? A warning?

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Well, I think possibly the wheel vibration was due to the speed,

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so we've solved both of those by giving him some advice,

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and he was only 9mph over the speed limit allowed when you're towing a trailer.

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So for me, I used my discretion then and decided he'd benefit from

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education, and then it solved the wheel problem, too.

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Councils have to deal with about 900,000 cases of fly-tipping

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every single year. That's about 2,500 every day.

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And this crime against the environment

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gets you hot under the collar.

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fly-tipping, definitely fines, cos, you know,

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someone dropping a bit of paper, yeah, it's not cool but someone

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dropping 30 washing machines on your doorstep, that's not so cool.

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I think fly-tipping is disgusting and people are just happy to

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see their stuff disappear if they're throwing it out,

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without knowing where it's going.

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You know, we all live quite near tips and things

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if there's stuff to get rid of.

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You should just have a bit of respect for your environment

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and if you've got too much rubbish, go to the tip, surely.

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If it's someone that's a clearance company that have left the

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litter on the street or the footway or just dumped it and fly-tipped,

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I think it's disgusting. They should be prosecuted.

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fly-tipping, I think there should be a fine for that as well,

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because otherwise the place would be a mess, really.

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Don't be lazy. Go and find the right way to get rid of your rubbish.

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But fly-tippers beware, because a fine might be coming your way.

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Millions of pounds of taxpayers' money

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is spent clearing up illegally dumped waste

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and, in Buckinghamshire, David Rounding and Chris Smith are

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waste enforcement officers.

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Their specialist subject...? You guessed it - waste.

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Possibly the worst cargo to spill is milk.

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Cos if that gets in the water table, it causes all sorts of...

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It has the highest... We call it a biochemical oxygen demand.

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Milk has the highest biochemical... I knew that. I knew that.

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It's their job to track down illegal dumpers and make them pay.

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A concerned resident in the village of Langley has given them a tip-off.

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This is the entrance where they drive in.

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They've been able to reverse in and get completely out of sight

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from the road and deposit the waste in that location.

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You can see now it's starting to fill up slightly

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so they are...or would now be visible from the road.

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But that doesn't seem to have deterred them.

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They still keep coming back.

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Over the past few weeks, this field on the edge of the village

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has been the scene of illegal waste dumps.

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The scale of it even shocks veterans like David and Chris.

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It's a horrific pile. There's in the region of six-to-eight

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decent truckloads of waste here.

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It's a nice area, completely blighted by this.

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You do tend to hypothesise when you turn up to these events and

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try and work out what they were thinking.

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Erm, but I just can't on this occasion.

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David and Chris have had the site under observation for the last week.

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But in the past few days and before the council could clear it up,

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this local environmental disaster took a turn for the worse.

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Look, you can see the flames right up there.

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They got obviously a significant fire.

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And right the way back there, as well.

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I was aware that it took the fire brigade in the region of two hours

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to be satisfied the fire was out.

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That tells you... It's got to tell you it's a significant fire

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that could cause a lot of harm.

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Despite a lot of charred remains,

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Dave and Chris are here to search for clues.

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If they find who's responsible and it goes to court,

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the charge could be pretty steep.

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The maximum fine for fly-tipping is ?50,000 and possibly

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a 12-month jail sentence.

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We get a lot of results out of this, what we call bag-diving,

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ie sort of going through the bags to try and find evidence.

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Oh! And it looks like whoever dumped this stuff

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didn't cover their tracks.

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It looks like a delivery label from a supplier to a kitchen fitter.

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Or fitting company, anyway.

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So it could be from this label that the kitchen fitting company

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might be able to identify who their customer was.

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So it's... Yeah, it's possible.

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It's the kind of lead environmental waste officers dream of.

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On a job of this size, the stakes are high.

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They want to have their cake and eat it

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ie they want to charge the client for dealing with the waste,

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but then they want to dump it illegally and save the cost of

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disposing of it lawfully.

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We go to dumps like this every day of the week for 25 years.

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We don't want it. We're paid to stop it happening.

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I understand the person who's done this is motivated by money

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and they've saved themselves some money. A few hundred pounds.

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And hopefully we'll end up prosecuting them and the

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court will make sure that they pay more than that.

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Chris and Dave suspect the site has become a dumping hotspot.

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They've got a secret weapon.

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When they first discovered the dump, they installed

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a motion activated CCTV camera to catch any returning tippers.

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Well, that's another fine mess you've got me into!

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A few days later, Dave and Chris review the first bit of evidence

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caught on camera.

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By six o'clock that evening, it had already filmed its first offence.

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A truckload of waste and, coming off the site

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a few minutes later, with the truck empty.

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It was the registration of the vehicle that the covert camera saw.

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There's been a breakthrough.

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Chris has tracked down the truck owner,

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who's volunteered to be interviewed,

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but knows nothing about the covert camera footage.

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This is our opportunity before a decision is made whether

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they're prosecuted or not to see the evidence and comment upon it.

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The evidence for this particular chap is very, very encouraging.

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On his way in, it shows waste in the back of the truck and on his

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way out, it shows the back of the truck is empty.

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All in all, this guy's got some problems.

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Did he do it? Was the owner in the truck?

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Chris would like some answers.

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This interview is conducted under caution.

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Caution says you do not have to say anything but it may harm your

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defence. This incident is involving a black Isuzu truck. Yeah.

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Do you own that vehicle? Yes.

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Did you deposit some waste in the hedgerow?

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In the woods? Yes. No. Between the road and the field.

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Right now the suspect hasn't got a clue about the camera footage.

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But he's no stranger to the site.

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You say you've seen the rubbish there. Yeah.

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The rubbish I'm talking about. Yeah.

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Obviously not all of it, because there's probably eight-to-ten

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lorry loads. There's a hell of a lot there. Yeah. The only...

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Every time I've went, there's been more dumped.

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This side, have you seen that bit? Yes. There's some green waste.

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Yeah, yeah. The tree waste. Yeah. So, you didn't dump any of that? No.

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You don't know anything about it. No.

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I decided to put a hidden camera in that location. Yeah.

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Now you know that, do you want to change what you're saying to me? No.

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No? OK. Here's the tape. You sure? Yeah.

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Cos I don't want you to look... You're digging yourself a hole...

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Yeah. And I don't want you to look worse than you are,

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let's put it that way. Yeah.

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So you're sticking to your story so far.

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For a minute.

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You're grinning. For a minute. All right.

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Let me show you some more photographs.

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His attitude started to change.

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I then mentioned to him that I, as a result of visiting there in

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the morning, I installed a hidden camera at the location.

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And I think that was the point where he realised the game was up.

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That's the pile that I believe you dumped. Yeah. Did you?

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I might have done. Tell us, then. I did dump that bit. OK.

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What's the story? Where did it come from?

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He admitted that it was for payment, which is a significant factor,

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and that he brought it out from the Southall area.

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This is fly-tipping on an industrial scale, with photographic evidence

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and an admission of guilt.

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So, what will the penalty be?

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I would anticipate this case will go to the Magistrates Court. Yes.

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He'll end up with a significant fine and

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a significant award of costs to the council for all the effort

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that it takes to get these people to the court.

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So, this case could be going to court,

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where the maximum fine for fly-tipping is ?50,000.

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It's a painful charge with a significant crime,

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and a result for the council,

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who turned the case around in a matter of weeks.

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The word will have got round to the local community that we can

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respond quickly to incidents,

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install a camera if it's necessary and appropriate,

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and track them down very quickly,

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and it just, it will be a great deterrent for the future.

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Kam Paul is a civil enforcement officer

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with Havering District Council in the north-east London.

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I don't think she just went to the pharmacy because there's

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no way it took an hour and a half, unless they're operating on you.

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She takes no-nonsense and, if anyone dishes it out,

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she's got the kit to prove it.

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Right, you can't drop off here at this time.

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At what point do you turn this camera on?

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Normally I would turn it on as soon as someone approaches me... OK.

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..cos you want the conversation to be on film

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and that's mainly because you'd be amazed at how many people go back,

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complain to the council

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and just totally fabricate the whole statement.

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What sort of things have been made up?

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"She swore at me.

0:19:230:19:24

"She told me to F off.

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"She threatened me. She gave me attitude.

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"She almost hit me." I've even had people say that.

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Is any of it true? Of course not!

0:19:310:19:34

Kam soon spots her first potential offender.

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If it doesn't say free parking or it doesn't have a bay,

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you're parked somewhere where you're not supposed to be. Right.

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This is a loading bay... Yeah.

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..which is designed for vans and HGVs only.

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Let's look at this case -

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parking in a loading-only bay.

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Designated for larger vehicles.

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This is an offence.

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So, does this person get a grace time or is it instant ticket?

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No, it's an instant. Ouch. Ouch, yeah.

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Mind you, with a motor like that, I think he can probably afford it.

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Parking here has just cost this driver ?130.

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I've got to say, nice car. My nephew's got the same one.

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We were admiring it, yeah. You were admiring it a bit too much, I think.

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Yeah, sorry.

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I'm just wondering, the reason I parked here...

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Are all the rest of those loading bays getting tickets as well? No.

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Now, I am actually going to say something that you're really

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not going to be happy with. There's no time plate over there...

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Right. ..so that is a free bay

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and that's why they're all parked with no ticket.

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Come over here, sir.

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The way bays work, they've all got their own time plate

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and, especially with these, these are actually two loading bays.

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Two completely separate loading bays.

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Yeah, cos you've got a big yellow line in between, separating them.

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I'm learning something every day. So am I. I didn't know that.

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So basically, the way it works is

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this bay has its own time plate,

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there's a yellow line to break up the bay,

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and this is a separate loading bay

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but it's not being used right now, there's no time plate.

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So where's the lamppost that tells you the time for that?

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There isn't one. That's exactly what I'm trying to explain to you.

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If any bay, whether it's a loading bay or resident bay

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or a pay-and-display, if it doesn't have a time plate,

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it turns into a free bay,

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because if the bay does not instruct the driver,

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if it doesn't give the details to the driver

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as to what kind of bay it is,

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what days it's enforceable and what times... Anyone can park there.

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..then anyone can park there. 'You learn something new every day.'

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It's a stark reminder to always check the signs when you park

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or you could end up with a fine.

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I'm going on to that site.

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Where should I park? Well... Obviously not here.

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Obviously not there.

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You could leave it there for the whole day but...

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I'll move it. ..technically, yeah,

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the best thing to do would be park it into that bay.

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I just saw you arguing your point there with the traffic warden.

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You don't seem very happy. It doesn't make sense, though.

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I've moved my car five yards and that's...that's...

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a ticketable offence and that's free.

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Are you pretty aggrieved by what's happened?

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Yes. To me, it seems silly but, at the end of the day,

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I'm not going to stand here

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and argue cos I've got better things to do with my time. Yeah.

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Obviously, appeal is something you can do. Yeah.

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You did mention a point there -

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is it worth your time and money to do that? Are you going to?

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I probably will, depending on how much it is.

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It's ?65 now. 130 if you don't pay it within a short period of time.

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So I'll appeal it. I'll just take pictures and send it off

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telling them, to me, it doesn't make much sense. Yeah.

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I can see where you're coming from. I think we were both educated then.

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I didn't realise that was the difference.

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If he'd parked a few metres further forward in the first place,

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he could have saved himself a lot of money.

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You certainly need a thick skin to be a traffic warden,

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but even Kam has a softer side.

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Oh! I don't want to give this car a ticket.

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Because he's got a dog on the back seat? Oh, God, he's so cute.

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I did see the dog after. I really feel bad now.

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They may have left the dog in a well-ventilated car in the shade,

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but I'm afraid the driver is still in the doghouse with a ?130 fine.

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Next, Kam has spotted a car parked in a pay-and-display car park

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where some drivers have been trying their luck.

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Why do you think somebody's blatantly parked there?

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You're standing over there by the machine and they

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disappeared without even bothering to get a ticket.

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Chances are, two options.

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They probably thought it's free because the machine's covered up.

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They probably haven't read it properly.

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Or they've read it and thought, "Do you know what?

0:23:380:23:41

"I'm only going round the corner to get at tea from Greggs.

0:23:410:23:43

"I'll be back within ten minutes."

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Cos they all know we have to give them a ten-minutes grace,

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so some of them will just race against the clock and think,

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"As long as I'm back in ten minutes, I'm all right."

0:23:500:23:53

What's the case against this vehicle?

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Parking in a permit holders only car park.

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After a ten-minute observation period,

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she could hand out a fixed penalty notice.

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Once that issues a ticket, that's it.

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There's no way you can go, "Oh, sorry, all right.

0:24:100:24:12

"I'll give you a chance. I'll cancel it." No.

0:24:120:24:14

Kam does what the law requires and waits.

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Time's up and this motorist's wallet just got a whole lot lighter.

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To me, I mean, 11 minutes is enough time to get change from anywhere.

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Ouch. It's a ?130 on-the-spot fine.

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You've left the vehicle.

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Whether you've got delayed now or not,

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you've left it initially with no ticket and no intention to pay.

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Why should you not get a ticket?

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Bearing in mind, these, you know... Everyone else has paid.

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I can see your argument. They've all paid good money for their permits.

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Why should this driver not get a ticket and everybody else pay

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for their parking?

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Now, you can appeal your ticket,

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but you can't avoid it just by chucking it away.

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Surely that means now, if they don't pay that,

0:25:070:25:10

it's going to go up to 130 quid? Yeah.

0:25:100:25:12

Kam issued this one to another car earlier.

0:25:120:25:15

Clearly, the driver isn't a fan of parking enforcement.

0:25:150:25:18

I wonder if they've taken it out the actual envelope. Nope.

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I guarantee you.

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It's in there. Yeah, you're right.

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That's a driver who constantly parks here.

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Every day, this person will get themselves a ticket,

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they will just chuck it and drive off.

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Well, they must be paying. Nope.

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So basically one day they're going to get pulled over,

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someone's going to grab them

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and they're going to have a huge amount of tickets to pay for.

0:25:400:25:42

Is it a criminal offence?

0:25:420:25:44

Yeah, because basically what we have to do when tickets aren't paid

0:25:440:25:49

is wait for three of them to reach warrant stage

0:25:490:25:52

and then they send bailiffs.

0:25:520:25:54

I can hardly keep up with her. She's like a whippet.

0:25:560:25:58

So far today, I've already seen Kam issue three tickets,

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so I've got a burning question that most of us want answered.

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Are you financially rewarded for the amount of tickets you issue? No.

0:26:060:26:10

Absolutely not. Under any circumstances.

0:26:100:26:12

You could go out one day, issue zero tickets,

0:26:120:26:16

you will be paid the exact same amount

0:26:160:26:19

for the following day if you issued 100 tickets.

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Are you target-driven?

0:26:210:26:23

Are you told to issue as many tickets as possible?

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That is the part of the job where people get confused.

0:26:250:26:29

They're all under the impression that we're on commission and

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they're all under the impression that we're on targets,

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which is not true.

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In Pendle, Lancashire, there's been a report of

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a serious case of fly-tipping and the big guns are on the case.

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INDISTINCT

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David Alexander is head of the Environmental Crime Team.

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Along with his colleague, Jeff Brown,

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they have been summoned to a fly-tipping offence.

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This builders' waste appeared overnight.

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The culprit could be hit with a ?400 fine,

0:27:090:27:12

but the team need clues to track them down.

0:27:120:27:15

That's interesting.

0:27:170:27:19

Take a photograph of the bag.

0:27:190:27:20

David suspects the waste

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may have come from the house behind this wall.

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It's all a matter of connecting this rubbish to over there.

0:27:270:27:32

And a key piece of evidence would seem to confirm his suspicions.

0:27:320:27:36

There's a tape measure in there.

0:27:360:27:38

It's broken. There's no...

0:27:390:27:42

There's no tape in it.

0:27:420:27:44

And, lo and behold, just over the...

0:27:440:27:48

over the wall, in the fire, there's a bit of tape measure.

0:27:480:27:51

So it proves that it's his rubbish.

0:27:510:27:54

When you shift the bag...

0:27:550:27:57

Shift the bag.

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That's been there a few days. It's all green under there.

0:28:000:28:04

It's actually our land,

0:28:040:28:06

and he's not got permission from the Parks Department or anybody

0:28:060:28:10

to put his stuff on there.

0:28:100:28:12

What have we got down here?

0:28:120:28:15

But the illegal dumping doesn't end there.

0:28:150:28:18

There's more builder's waste

0:28:180:28:20

chucked next to this stream a few yards away in the local park.

0:28:200:28:23

If this waste can be linked to the same offender,

0:28:230:28:26

it's a bigger deal than they first thought.

0:28:260:28:29

Again, it's dumping.

0:28:290:28:31

It's more than a couple of bags' worth, so it will be fly-tipping.

0:28:310:28:34

A few bags of rubbish the wrong side of a garden wall

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could be dealt with by means of a fixed-penalty notice of ?400,

0:28:380:28:41

but this looks like a much bigger dump

0:28:410:28:44

and could be classed as fly-tipping,

0:28:440:28:47

potentially punishable in court with a fine of up to ?50,000,

0:28:470:28:51

and David could take this to court if the evidence is strong enough.

0:28:510:28:55

If you want to pull the branches out...

0:28:550:28:58

Right, that has got to match.

0:28:580:29:01

David is now on the hunt for anything that will tie this

0:29:010:29:04

load of rubbish to the waste left outside the house.

0:29:040:29:08

He has noticed a few cut-off trees in the back garden.

0:29:080:29:11

There you are.

0:29:110:29:12

Perfect match.

0:29:120:29:14

He can't... He hasn't got an excuse now.

0:29:140:29:18

That's been dumped down an embankment,

0:29:180:29:20

obviously out of sight,

0:29:200:29:22

so he's obviously no intention of clearing that out.

0:29:220:29:26

The property owner suddenly appears.

0:29:260:29:29

Are you having some work done here? Yes. So you've authorised...

0:29:290:29:33

You're having the work done?

0:29:330:29:34

The woman says she is having a patio made by a local builder.

0:29:340:29:38

So, what is all this rubbish over here?

0:29:380:29:41

What is the rubbish down the side of the banking?

0:29:410:29:44

She says the work is still going on

0:29:440:29:47

but the waste by the stream is nothing to do with her.

0:29:470:29:50

He has basically fly-tipped a load of your stuff onto the park.

0:29:500:29:56

He has then also taken some of the stuff, he has just slung them

0:29:560:30:00

down the embankment, and I'm not prepared to have that happen.

0:30:000:30:03

He has fly-tipped, so I need to speak to him.

0:30:030:30:06

She tries ringing him, but he's not picking up.

0:30:060:30:09

She says it's not her problem.

0:30:090:30:11

So, ultimately, madam, it is, because it's your waste.

0:30:110:30:15

It's stuff from your property.

0:30:150:30:17

Now, if you say the builder's doing it, that's fine.

0:30:170:30:20

We'll speak to the builder.

0:30:200:30:22

The homeowner has a phone number for her builder,

0:30:220:30:25

but she doesn't want to hand it over.

0:30:250:30:27

Well, it's your responsibility. I will need those details from you,

0:30:270:30:30

otherwise you will be held responsible for your waste.

0:30:300:30:33

This has been here quite a few days, because the grass

0:30:330:30:37

has gone yellow underneath the bags.

0:30:370:30:39

Eventually she sees sense and, after a call from Jeff, the builder

0:30:390:30:43

comes back to confess and possibly face a pretty hefty fine.

0:30:430:30:47

He threw it down. I didn't know. Sorry about that.

0:30:470:30:51

He's here to face the music.

0:30:510:30:53

But the builder claims the waste in the park is down to a workmate.

0:30:530:30:57

He threw it, I didn't know about it.

0:30:570:30:59

But when faced with the evidence outside the house,

0:30:590:31:02

it doesn't take long for him to crumble.

0:31:020:31:05

Yeah, I put that there. You put that there? OK.

0:31:050:31:08

And I meant to take it away.

0:31:080:31:09

Yeah, you meant to, but it's not been taken away,

0:31:090:31:11

it's been here for a few days. That's the offence of fly-tipping.

0:31:110:31:14

Oh? Yeah. Did you know that?

0:31:140:31:16

THAT most certainly is. THAT is an offence of fly-tipping.

0:31:160:31:19

You have got a responsibility, as a tradesman.

0:31:190:31:21

You're accountable for it and you must pay the consequences for it.

0:31:210:31:24

OK? Do you know what the penalty is for fly-tipping? No.

0:31:240:31:28

So, what's the offence here?

0:31:280:31:30

A patio renovation that has turned into fly-tip...

0:31:310:31:34

over the wall into a council park and into the bushes.

0:31:340:31:38

This guy accepts the waste by the wall is his,

0:31:380:31:42

but he's still blaming his mate for the dump in the bushes.

0:31:420:31:45

What's the penalty to be?

0:31:450:31:48

?50,000 and five years in prison is the maximum. Right?

0:31:480:31:51

So that's how serious fly-tipping is.

0:31:510:31:54

However, it can be dealt with by way of a fixed-penalty notice,

0:31:540:31:58

which comes in at ?400.

0:31:580:32:01

For this offence, it's a ?400 fine,

0:32:010:32:05

AND he'll have to move the waste.

0:32:050:32:08

They will also be chasing his colleague

0:32:080:32:10

for the streamside rubbish.

0:32:100:32:13

I will be more careful with waste, but the problem is,

0:32:130:32:16

when you go down to the recycling,

0:32:160:32:20

they're charging you for everything, like, you know, the stone rubble...

0:32:200:32:26

You go down with the van and they charge you ?60, you know?

0:32:260:32:30

People can't afford that. So that's why there's a lot of fly-tipping.

0:32:300:32:34

It's their own fault.

0:32:340:32:37

So, I feel a good day's work by Jeff.

0:32:370:32:40

People don't deserve to have their green spaces ruined by builders.

0:32:400:32:44

One case solved, but it's one of many in Pendle.

0:32:440:32:48

Jeff is now joining his colleague, Matty Hargreaves, across town,

0:32:480:32:52

where the problem is a whole lot bigger.

0:32:520:32:55

Another fly-tip on the back street, but this one is more or less...

0:32:550:32:59

A significant fly-tip? Yeah.

0:32:590:33:01

Ah!

0:33:040:33:05

This huge pile of waste was dumped in one go,

0:33:050:33:09

and it's a blockade of a whole alleyway.

0:33:090:33:11

Whoever did this could be hit with a fine or even taken to court.

0:33:110:33:16

Not acceptable at all. It's blocking the whole back street.

0:33:160:33:20

No-one can get up or down it, really, without clambering over it.

0:33:200:33:23

It's down to Matty and Jeff to find a clue to the offender,

0:33:230:33:27

and the soon-to-be-owner of a hefty fine.

0:33:270:33:31

It's waste. It's just everywhere.

0:33:310:33:34

There's wood, there's old settees.

0:33:340:33:37

There's old rags and things like that.

0:33:370:33:40

And it's just not acceptable to dump your waste

0:33:400:33:43

and expect other people to clear it up.

0:33:430:33:45

Matty has spotted what looks like the contents of a house

0:33:450:33:49

in the pile and realises, just around the corner,

0:33:490:33:52

is a house that has been recently gutted.

0:33:520:33:54

It's finding the stuff that's on the back street that's related

0:33:540:33:57

to the house, and that's going to be the difficult part.

0:33:570:34:02

Time for a bit of bag-diving to link this dump to the house in question.

0:34:040:34:08

What have we got here?

0:34:100:34:11

I've got an envelope there. Name and address on it.

0:34:110:34:14

Clearly come from the bag.

0:34:140:34:16

This is the first bit of tangible evidence we've got

0:34:160:34:19

linking a name and an address to this.

0:34:190:34:21

Happy days...ish.

0:34:210:34:23

Now some door-knocking to find the answers.

0:34:240:34:28

There's no-one at the house in question

0:34:320:34:34

but an outraged neighbour IS home.

0:34:340:34:37

It made me feel really frustrated,

0:34:370:34:39

where we couldn't get out the back gate. And I was mad.

0:34:390:34:41

I was absolutely mad. I called the police.

0:34:410:34:44

You don't want to live in an area that is full of rubbish.

0:34:440:34:47

You don't want to see things that breeds rats.

0:34:470:34:49

If they're caught doing it,

0:34:490:34:51

I think they should be fined and at least some jail time.

0:34:510:34:55

Let's have a look at Matty and Jeff's evidence.

0:34:550:34:57

A massive pile of waste blocking the whole alleyway,

0:34:570:35:01

a house that has been recently gutted,

0:35:010:35:04

and an address in the rubbish linking the pile to the property.

0:35:040:35:09

We've got a bit of work to do in relation to trying to find

0:35:090:35:12

the individual named in the letters we've got.

0:35:120:35:15

There is a lot of detective work ahead, but if the lead pays off then

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this fly-tip could result in some lazy litter lout ending up in court.

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But in the meantime, someone has got clear the rubbish.

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We've got to pay for actually removing it,

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so it's all money that the taxpayer picks up, really,

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because somebody is too lazy to dispose of the waste properly.

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In Gloucestershire, PC Holloway and PC Buxton are on patrol.

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The front seat passenger is a child in the car in front,

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and you can barely see his head over there door,

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so I just want to make sure

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that he's in the right car seat and find out why he's in the front,

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because it's always preferable to have children in the back...

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because the adult airbags are for adults.

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I mean, in these big cars,

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the seating area at the front is quite large,

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so it could be perfectly fine,

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but a child has got to be in a child seat up until the age of 12,

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or 135cm, whichever they reach first.

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It's the drivers responsibility to ensure passenger safety,

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so this motorist could face an on-the-spot fine.

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The reason I've stopped you is, I've just seen you've got

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a child in the front passenger seat who looks quite small.

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Why would it be your preference for her to sit in the front?

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This driver thought the best way to stop her daughter misbehaving

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was to let her sit in the front.

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But after some gentle persuasion from PC Holloway,

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the girl decides to relocate to the back seat.

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Until your body gets big enough,

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this adult seatbelt would be too high.

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If you weren't sat on this,

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it would be too high round your neck and then if Mummy

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has to brake hard, because another driver pulls out in front of her,

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the seatbelt would jar and you could get more injured.

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So, when you're sat on this nice seat,

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it's perfectly across your shoulder.

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So then, if Mummy brakes hard and you have to go forwards,

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it's not going to hurt you. It's going to save you.

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The daughter may be causing her mother grief,

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but it's up to the driver to make sure young ones are safe.

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The question is, will PC Holloway fine the parent?

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Let's take a look at the law.

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All passengers need to wear seatbelts, including children,

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but if the child is under 135cm tall

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before their 12th birthday, then he or she needs to be on

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a suitable booster, or sitting on a seat with a seatbelt extender.

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If not, the driver could face a ?100 on-the-spot fine,

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so what's it to be?

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I'm not going to be giving you a fixed-penalty notice today,

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or a report. It's just a warning, really.

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But in future, obviously,

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anyone under the age of 14 is the driver's responsibility.

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No charge this time.

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Instead, a few stern words to both mother and daughter from the police.

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There seemed to be a parental issue there where the daughter wasn't

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doing what she was told, so we had a bit of a chat and I think

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from now on, she'll be doing as Mum tells her in the car.

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SIREN BLARES

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Back on the road, the alarm bells are ringing.

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I'm going after this white van, it's got a light out.

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And it's driving like a loon.

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So, we are just going to run it through first of all,

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see who might own it. Insurance is held.

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Ford Transit white panel van.

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Driving without fully working lights is an offence that could

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leave the driver with an on-the-spot fine.

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Hiya.

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I just stopped you because your brake light is out.

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Oh, is it? I didn't realise. Yeah, this one is out.

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Don't panic. Is it yours? Yes. Got your driving licence handy?

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No, I don't. Any ID? Only my Gas Safe.

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This van is about to get the once-over.

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Indicate.

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OK. That one.

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OK, flash.

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But it seems the van has seen better days.

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So, you have got a side light out.

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That one is missing. Your headlights are out as well.

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So, it's only your main beam that works. I didn't know that.

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That's with your main beam turned off, you've got no headlights.

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I didn't know. It was all right last night. I travelled from Swindon.

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When I asked you to turn the headlights on,

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it was defaulted to the main beam. I'll get that sorted.

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You've got three bulbs out here and your brake light, all right?

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I wasn't aware of that. Well, you should be.

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You need to check it every day. It was all right last night.

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I didn't check it this morning because I came to work in daylight.

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If we suddenly had a downpour and it got really dark and you

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turned your headlights on, that is all you'd have, that side light.

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I'll rectify that tonight. Yeah. No problem.

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PC Holloway is not done yet.

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She carries on her checks inside the vehicle.

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Don't forget your hat. I'll get it in a minute.

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The handbrake is on the very last notch.

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You have to yank it up.

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I'll get the lights looked at and then I'll get that looked at.

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So, a long list of faults. Defective lights could attract a ?50 fine.

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The police have powers to take faulty vehicles off the road.

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So, we stopped the van because it had no brake light,

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and on checking the vehicle over,

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none of the front headlights work apart from one side bulb.

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So we've got three defective lights. The handbrake is borderline.

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It does stop the vehicle, but only if you yank it up,

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so that's not an offence yet.

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So we will be giving him a vehicle defect rectification notice,

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a VDRS, for him to get the lights fixed and checked

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and send it back to us to prove that he has done it.

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So, it's a vehicle defect rectification notice

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for this driver,

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which means he's got 14 days to get the work done

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or face court proceedings.

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If I can get you to sign the form here, I'll give you your copy.

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Because I am reporting you for an offence

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which may or may not end up in court,

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I've got to caution you and give you an opportunity to reply to that.

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You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if

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you do not mention now something which you later rely on in court,

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and anything you do say may be given in evidence.

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There you go, then. That's yours. Any questions at all? No. OK.

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Are you going straight back now? Straight away. OK. Swindon.

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I've got to drop them off and then I'll try and get my van fixed.

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Obviously, if you have adverse weather and it's dark enough

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that you need your lights on,

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I would advise you to pull over and wait for the weather to pass,

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because you're not visible like that at the moment. OK. OK? OK.

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No problem. Take care. I will. Thanks. Thank you.

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Olly and Shelley are on their way again,

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and it's from one white van man to another. Or should that be two?

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These two are having a conversation, the Vauxhall...

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Tell him to pull over and the other one.

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It's not the time to have a conversation, on the roundabout,

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with him.

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Careless and inconsiderate driving can lead to a fine of ?5,000.

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It's not the place to have a conversation, is it? No, it's not.

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You were holding up all that traffic. Was it that important?

0:42:000:42:04

Oh, yeah, that old story. Ridiculous.

0:42:060:42:08

The first driver claims he was asking for directions.

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Time to speak to the other driver.

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Not the time or place to have a conversation, on the roundabout.

0:42:140:42:17

He claims the other guy was asking to buy his truck from him.

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Oh, that's funny. He told me a different story. I'm not having it.

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You don't do it.

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If you knew him, you pull over and speak to him on the phone.

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Just drive on, because you can't hold up other traffic

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just to have a chitchat, can you? All right.

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No fine, but a serious ticking-off.

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Cor, that's the way.

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You see nothing all day and then we're just trying to go home,

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two instances within the space of two of three minutes.

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Right, let's go home.

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One thing is for sure,

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the men and women who hand out these fines don't have it easy.

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That's it for today. Join me next time for more Dom On The Spot.

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If there is nothing new, then the Court of Appeal

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aren't going to change their decision.

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You have to question everything.

0:43:420:43:44

There were two areas of fingerprints on the carrier bag.

0:43:440:43:47

It's an obvious case to re-examine.

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