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Never before have so many on-the-spot fines | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
been issued in Britain. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
We're going to be following the men and women who hand out | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
over ?30 million worth of tickets every month... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Oops! | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
Round here they are an absolute blight. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm up to 104 now. Wow! | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
That is disgusting. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
Just walk away. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
..for behaviour that's downright dangerous... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
That was stupid for these sort of conditions, wasn't it? | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
..simply selfish... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Look at the mess you've created in the street. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
How is that our fault? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
..or just, well... What is he doing? | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
..plain silly. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
What a doughnut. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
?100 fine. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Pays ?260. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Ouch! ..and how this could affect you. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I'll give him a punch. Do you want to see me kick off? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
The police are on it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
What the...? Sir! | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
The parking wardens are on it. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
They should be thanking us for being here. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
And I'm on it. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
Careful! It's a 30mph limit here! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
I'm Dom Littlewood | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and I'm on the spot. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Today there's conflict on the streets. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Wipe that BLEEP smile off your face. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
I'm going to smile as long as I want to. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
I'm not going to need your permission or anyone else's. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
I'm on the spot with the traffic cops... | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
They've asked us to attend to assist them. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
..attending crash scenes... That looks messy. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
..and dishing out fines... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
I've got a ticket. Ouch! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
BLEEP off, really. Yeah. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
..and it's a fining face-off. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
What I want to say is... Right, can I just pause you? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
It's, number one... That's not really something that | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
I need to hear. Two things, very quickly, if I may? I understand... | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
No, the hearing's finished now. Thank you. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Parking. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
I mean, we all know what a nightmare it can be | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
and we're all constantly aware of the fact | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
that if we don't quite park legally, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
we could end up with a very hefty penalty charge notice. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
But let me tell you something, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
in 1950, there was about four million cars on the road. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Nowadays, there's nearly 37 million. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
That is an awful lot more cars. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Being a traffic warden can be tough but with more and more cars | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
on our roads each year, it's a job that certainly needs doing. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
They do a good job and it's a hard job but I just think sometimes | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
people are gunning for the traffic warden | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
and you just need to step back a bit. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:28 | |
Do you like CEOs? Traffic wardens? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
No, because sometimes I think that they are just out there | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
just to get the tickets and to get their commission and their money, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
so, no, I don't. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
Does anybody like them? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Well, it's a good point. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
OK. What would you do if we didn't have traffic wardens? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Yeah, we need them. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
It is a difficult job. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
I can imagine the public can be very tiresome sometimes | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and very problematic. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
Do you think, though, to a certain extent, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
we do need to be having tickets issued and parking...? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
Can you imagine what it would be like if they weren't there? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Oh, it would be ridiculous, yeah. Yeah, it would be. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
In Havering, parking enforcement officer Kam is on patrol. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
I'm here until 10:30 today. Woohoo! | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Life doesn't get any better than that! | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
So far, it's a quiet day but things can change quickly | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
when you're a parking enforcement officer. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
Kam has spotted three vehicles possibly parked illegally | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
outside a property. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Although this is a driveway, it's a yellow line. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
It looks like they've got the builders in. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
And that's until 6:30, as well. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
So where it's just a dropped kerb, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
we would need permission from the resident. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
But if it has a yellow line going through it, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
we don't need permission from the resident. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
During those times, no-one is allowed to park there. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
If they overstay their 20-minute waiting time, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
they can be hit with a ?40 on-the-spot fine each. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
But luckily, it looks like someone is on the premises to move them. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
This you, boss? I've just pulled up, just taking in some bolts. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
That's fine. Are you moving? Huh? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Are you moving? Am I moving? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
These vehicles are parked on a time-limited single yellow line. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
It doesn't matter if the vehicles are connected to the property | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
they're in front of, they still need to move. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
But things are moving slowly and Kam is beginning to lose patience. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Right, if this van is nothing to do with her, which it obviously is, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
because it's her builders... I'm a builder. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Right, then there's nothing stopping you moving the van | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and having her park in her drive... Yeah, it's fine. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
..rather than having a go at me cos I've just turned up | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and found three vehicles on the yellow line that shouldn't be there. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
OK, no problem. Yeah? Right, thank you. Have a nice day. You too. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
Do you want to move, sir? I'm moving. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
He'll now go and park everywhere else because I'm here. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Things can get heated very quickly, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
especially when a fine is on the cards. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
MAN SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
They've moved, yeah. You've got 20 minutes to load, sir. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
I'll do it in two minutes. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
That's fine. Don't be stroppy. I'm not being stroppy. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
I'm telling you how long you have. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
What you giving all that for? Right, I'm telling you how long you have. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Right, we've got 20 minutes. You've done what you've had to say, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
now BLEEP. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
It's a tough job and this one has got to her. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Disappear. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
You told us 20 minutes and you're still smirking. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Just walk away, walk way. Yeah, because I'm supposed to ask people | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
when I smile. I'm supposed to ask people when I talk. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
Do they not realise that we have freedom as well? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
If I want to smile, I'll smile. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
No fines here but not a great start to the day. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Let's hope things get better in town. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Oh, you're such a cutie pie. Look at him! | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Tut-tut-tut-tut. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
We get a lot more friendly contact with animals in this job | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
than we do with people. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Hang on a minute, I don't believe it. It's the man from earlier. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Still causing trouble again. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
No, we're doing our job. BLEEP | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Yeah. Put that on your Dick and Dom. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
I really hope he's back within ten minutes, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
cos I will give him a ticket. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
Fight aside, this has now turned nasty. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Oh, God. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
But at least this time it looks like he's buying a ticket. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
Oh, now he's getting a ticket, straight after I've observed him. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
No worries. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
Yeah, cos he knows I'm watching his vehicle. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
I hope he takes longer than he's taken money for. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Wipe that smile off your face. I'm going to smile as long as I want to. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
I'm not going to need your permission or anyone else's. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Yeah, we've got a picture of his vehicle anyway, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
so it won't take them long to get hold of him. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
He shouldn't be winding me up smiling when... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
He's not winding you up, he's just standing there. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
Don't keep smirking. You're getting wound up yourself, mate. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
5-3-5 to control. Are you receiving? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
Yeah, control, one of the film crew has been threatened by a driver. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Can we have a police car at Market Place, please? | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Market Place car park, outside the Lidl. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
You might as well wait now, the police is on its way. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
BLEEP They can come and find me, can't they? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Yeah, well, I've got your registration, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
so they'll come knocking at your door, yeah? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
What are you going to do me for? Are you serious? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Put that on the telly. He's bought a ticket and now he's drove off... | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
because he knows he's in the wrong. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Who buys an hour's ticket and then drives off? | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Well, that was a tense situation. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
It just shows how a regular shift can turn nasty very quickly. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Like you just saw, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
it doesn't have to be you having a go at them. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
He's come from a totally different location | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
but the incident we've already had with him is still in his head | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
and he's come back and reacted in a similar fashion. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Boss, you need to get a ticket. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Ticket. Yeah? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Erm...so, yeah, you can imagine | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
every time we see him in the borough now, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
we're going to have conflict with him | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
cos that is how he's going to behave, no matter what. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Personally, we try and avoid things like that, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
especially with residents, businesses... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
..people who we're going to bump into on a regular basis. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Cos if you're going to see someone every day, come on, let's face it, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
we'd much rather be on a good term with them. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
And we do try. We're still trying. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
Well, I hope these types of shifts are few and far between | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
but at least Kam is able to put it behind her. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Next, I'm on the beat in Wiltshire with traffic cop Jay Clifton. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
On an average shift, Jay can expect to hand out on-the-spot fines | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
for anything from speeding to hogging the middle lane. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
But before he can get anywhere close to pulling out his penalty pad, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
something much more serious comes through on the radio. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
At the moment, there has been what's called a road traffic collision - | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
they're not accidents any more, they're RTCs - | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
and Jay is basically waiting to find out whether he's needed or not. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
So he's just staying local to this area, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
waiting to hear whether they suddenly say, "OK, get over there." | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
So in the meantime, he's just keeping mobile | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
but he's tending to stay in one particular area. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
So, really, we don't know what's going to happen | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
in the next five, ten minutes. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
It could be blues and twos all the way there quickly | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
or just cruising round the town. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
I can tell you, though, it's roasting hot. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
He's got stab vests on and all these high-vis jackets. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
I mean, it's a really uncomfortable position to be in. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Let's go, guys. OK. What's happening? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
The update is that this is potentially a serious collision now. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
They've asked us to attend to assist them | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
so we're going to go take a look at what we've got from | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
the perspective of roads policing, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
see if we can help them out. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Right. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
Cor! That looks messy. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
I really hope everyone's OK. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
RTCs like this one are far too common and often linked | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
with unsafe driving. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
In this case, the passenger has been thrown from the car because | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
she wasn't wearing her seatbelt. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Whilst the paramedics attend to her, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Jay interviews the driver in the ambulance. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Have you ever done a breath test before? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
On the end of the tube, one nice, long breath outwards | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
until I tell you to stop. Off you go. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Good. Nice one. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
You've blown zero. I'm happy with that. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I've breathalysed the driver. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
That's come back as a zero. I'm more than happy with that. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
There is an intimation that the driver's had | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
a medical episode prior to the collision and the collision | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
is as a result of the passenger | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
trying to stop the car from having a collision. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
And to do that, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
she had to undo her seatbelt in an attempt to reach the controls. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
So, in this case, no caution required. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
The passenger is going to be taken away to a local hospital. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
We've got a few queries about a back injury. She's conscious, is she? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Conscious and breathing. OK. Not life-threatening, not life-changing. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
This is all precautionary. Yeah. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
Doing everything we can to make sure she's comfortable and safe | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
and then she'll be taken away. OK. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
So basically there's nothing more to say about this, is there, really? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
She's off and you won't know till later on. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
No, I'll make a few phone calls later on to make sure | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
everything's OK and go on from there but, as it is, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
this is just what being police work is about. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
We could be looking for one thing and, next thing we know, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
we're dealing with something which could potentially | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
change someone's life. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
It's an unfortunate accident. It's an unfortunate accident. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
So thankfully we'll get everything sorted out. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
The road's going to be closed for some time. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
It does annoy members of the public that we do that but we do it | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
for safety, not only ourselves but everyone we're working with. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
I noticed that. I was sitting there, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
just waiting to see what happened and there was a couple of drivers | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
turned up there, they're going... I'm thinking, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
"Come on, mate, you can see the Fire Brigade there, you've got | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
"police cars, there is a car on its head and those people working round. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
"What are you screaming and shouting about?" | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Because we're blocking their way home, they want to get home. Yeah. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
Unfortunately, that's the way it is. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
We just switch off to it and carry on with what we've got. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
That is our priority right now. Yeah, OK. All right. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Shall we crack on and do something else? Let's do it. Yeah. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
Obviously that lady had a very good reason why she wasn't wearing | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
her seatbelt but under normal circumstances not wearing one | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
is a fineable offence. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
We've only just left the scene of the accident when we come | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
across someone who doesn't look like he's using his. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Passenger doesn't appear to be wearing his seatbelt at the moment. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
That's the first observation I've got. OK. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
So what I'm going to do, I am going to cause the vehicle to stop but | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
while I'm doing it I'm going to be constantly watching the passenger. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Driver's wearing his but that passenger seatbelt doesn't | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
appear to be being worn at the moment. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
I sense the first on-the-spot fine of the day. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
I can actually see the seatbelt hanging down | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
so that's definitely not being worn. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
So we'll have a chat and, unless this driver's got some sort of | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
medical exemption... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
At this point, I suppose, obviously people start to put their | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
seatbelts on normally, do they? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
Yeah, which is why I'm just having a quick look, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
keeping an eye on it, looking at what he's doing. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
I'll tell you what, his instincts were right because you can | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
very clearly see now the guy hasn't got his seatbelt on. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
Hello, sir. How are you doing? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
Actually, you're the reason why I've stopped. Oh, right? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
You do know it's an offence to be a passenger in | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
a motor vehicle whilst not wearing a seatbelt? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Mind yourself as you get out. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
It won't do up anyway. Won't do up? OK. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
His excuse is that in this car | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
the seatbelt is simply not big enough to go round him. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
I've got a... When I drive the lorry, I've got the... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
An extension. Yeah. OK, so if you're in another vehicle, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
you should be carrying that extension with you. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I just got picked up to go | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
drop the lorry off and left it in the lorry. OK. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I don't want you to be involved in a collision, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
which may not be your driver's fault, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
it may not be anyone's fault, but if you're not wearing a seatbelt... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
We've literally just come away from a collision where | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
a lady's been ejected from the vehicle. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Admittedly, she took her seatbelt off to try and help the person | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
who's become unwell in the car but, as a result of that, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
she's been ejected from the car and become injured. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
I would never wish that upon you. OK? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
If that goes into a wall, it's going to be quite horrible. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Jay's doing a wonderful job there. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
He's keeping the road safe and, you know, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
I quite admire the fact that he's so dedicated to what he's doing. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I look at someone like that guy there and | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
he can't wear the seatbelt because of his size and he's | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
forgotten his extension and I, personally, I find that very hard. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
Let's have a look at the facts. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
This gentleman's reason for not wearing | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
a seatbelt is that it's not long enough to go round him. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
But is this reason enough for Jay to let him off a fine? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
The way I'm going to deal with it is by way of a fixed penalty notice. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Like I say, a ?100 fine payable within 28 days. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
I'm afraid not. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
It's a ?100 on-the-spot fine and, to be honest, after what we've | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
seen this morning, I wouldn't want to risk not belting up. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
I suppose if you don't do it, people don't change their ways. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
I got a ticket. ?100 fine. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Ouch. Yeah. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
How do you feel about it? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
BLEEP off, really. Yeah. A bit gutted. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Yeah. We were only going 200 yards down there as well. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
That's where the yard is, on Redmond Road. Is it? | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Just turning into the yard. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
What will you tell the missus when you get home? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Don't know. I'll have to think about that. How will she take it? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Will she be a bit annoyed? Yeah. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
It's money we ain't got. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
It's ruined your weekend, hasn't it? Yeah. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
I felt sorry for him. That's where I would never make a good copper, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
because if I felt sorry for someone, I'd let them off. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
I totally appreciate you've got a job to do. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
What he did was wrong, it's illegal, and what you've done is right. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
I'd have gone, "Oh, go on, don't do it again." | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
But I suppose people don't learn their lesson then, do they? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
We can use education. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
We can say to someone, "Here's a lesson, you've got to learn it." | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
But on that instance, I think, "No, you are a professional..." | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Again, he's a lorry driver, he's a professional driver, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
he's got the stuff. He should know better. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Ah, this green and pleasant land that I love so much... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
..is under attack from fly-tippers. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
We've all seen it. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
The flat tyre on the side of the road, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
the rusty fridge in a hedge, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
or the smashed-up TV in a lay-by. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
I go out into the countryside and I see mattresses, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
I see plastic bottles, I see food bags, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
and I don't like it. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
Fly-tipping should be, like, fined on the spot. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
It's a good way to discourage people immediately from what they're doing. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Somebody's dumping their rubbish for somebody else to have to clean up | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
and I don't like it when I see that. No. I agree. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I think they should be fined if they could be caught, yes. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
In Nelson, Pendle Council has stepped up the campaign to | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
clamp down on fly-tippers. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
For those caught doing the deed, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
the penalty may be up to ?50,000... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
..or, for some offenders, up to a five-year stint in prison. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Despite the threat of prosecution, some would still rather take | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
the risk than pay a small charge to the local tip like the rest of us. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Taking on the fight against the fly-tippers is Lesley Brooks... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Somewhere in this mess, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
there's going to be an address. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
..and her comrade in the battle against illegal dumping, Jon Yurek. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
This is the irony of it is, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
"Made with household waste saved from landfill," | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
and it's been fly-tipped. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
Today, they're out on the prowl. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Sharing biscuits... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
..and a van. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
RADIO PLAYS What the hell? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
This could be a long day. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
A local resident has given them a valuable tip-off. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Two bags have been dumped by two men | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
that pulled up in a van this morning. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Binmen have taken one bag but the other bag of rubbish is still | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
outside the rear of this property. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
If they're able to prove it's been fly-tipped then there could be | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
a fine on the way for the culprit. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
The good citizen that called it in is Shafqat. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Right, do you want to show me...? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
So, in the morning I came out, we normally put our things out here, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
and next to our bins there were two extra bags. Right. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
And I just wondered what it was. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
I checked my CCTV and there was a van that pulled up over there, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
a blue van. Yeah. There were around four men in there. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
I've got the CCTV, I've got a camera just fitted two weeks ago. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
There and one there. So... I can show you the CCTV if you want me to. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Right, yes. Yes, please. Yeah. If I can see that. Yeah, no problem. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
It was only recently I noticed my car was getting scratched | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
so just two weeks ago I had the CCTV cameras installed just | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
basically to make sure the car wasn't damaged | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
by any people walking past. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Well, first I thought, I mean, "Why are they dumping rubbish?" | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
And they knew exactly where they were dumping it. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
So first I didn't even look at the bag because I didn't know | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
what was in them. So I rang the council up | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
and they said just leave them there for evidence. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
So it was a bit strange, really, cos they just dumped | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
the rubbish and then zoomed off. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Hopefully if they get caught and fined it'll stop other people | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
from doing this kind of stuff. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Do you want me to take my shoes off? If you don't mind. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Glad to see you using your manners, Lesley. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
OK, so I've got the CCTV footage here for you. OK. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
Oh, lovely. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
OK, so here they are getting out of the van. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Right, OK. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
Goes to the back... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
He knows exactly what he's doing. Yeah, yeah. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
He's not looking around. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
Shafqat's caught the whole sorry tale on camera... | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
..and there he is with two bags of rubbish. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Could this mean a fine for fly-tipping? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Can you see him coming behind? Yeah. This is my bin here... | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
..and here he comes and he just dumps them there. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
And he goes back. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
So there he's got some... looks like pillows. Yeah. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
The other guy's now coming with the cushions. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
He's coming back and you'll see him come over here and then dump them. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
You'll see, watch. Into the garden. Yeah. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
And they're off. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
But it doesn't stop at CCTV. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
This budding Sherlock made sure he got the van's registration plate. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
It's all evidence that could add towards a fine. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
So you can see the guy... Yeah. ..sitting in the van there. Yeah. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
And then I got a good picture of the registration. Oh, right, brilliant. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Now you'd think Shafqat couldn't be any more helpful | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
but hold your horses. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
You can... Do you have an e-mail address? I can send you... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Yeah, yeah. I've got the video footage already in an e-mail. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I can send it to you. Oh, brilliant, yeah. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Have you got... a piece of paper? Okey doke. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Perfect. Thank you very much. I'll be in touch, then. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
I'll go and sort it out there. Thank you. Thank you. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Thank goodness there are some upstanding citizens around. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
More often than not, people see stuff and then we just have | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
to search through it and find the evidence but on this occasion | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
we've obviously got the story from start to finish, if you will. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
But before they can proceed with that fine, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
they've got to bag and tag the crime scene. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
It's a filthy job... but you know what they say. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
What will happen with this, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
we'll link it to the offender, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
either from the person from the vehicle | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
or if there's any evidence amongst the fly-tip. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
So Jon's just searching it and I'm taking photographs. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:33 | |
It's surely only a matter of time before Jon and Lesley catch up | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
with these fly-tippers, and when they do, they could face a ?400 fine... | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
..or as much as a massive 50 grand. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
The alternative isn't any better either. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Anyone fancy a five-year jail sentence? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
I found a photo frame. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
A baby! | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
Spare us the family photos, Jon. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
OK, happy with that? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Yeah, happy with that. Right, OK, thank you. I'll be in touch. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
See you later. Bye. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
I think it's time we had a look at the facts. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Bags of rubbish dumped in an alleyway, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
a van registration, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
and the villains caught on CCTV. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
OK, Lesley, what's the verdict? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Fly-tipping fixed penalty would be a ?400 fine. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
So it's a ?400 fine for fly-tipping. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
But that's not all. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
They were working as drivers for a well-known charity... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
but not any more. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
They've said that they won't tolerate this sort of behaviour | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
and their contracts have been terminated. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
So, fly-tippers, be warned. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
Next, we are at the London tribunals. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Nearly half a million moving traffic penalty charge notices | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
are handed out in London every year | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
but if you think you've been given one unfairly, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
you have the right to appeal. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
I'm a London taxi driver so it's essential because, you know, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
if I get a ticket, I end up giving the lion's share of my earnings | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
to Haringey Council or Camden Council or whoever. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
So if they're going to try and prosecute me | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
to take money out of my pocket then they've got to make sure | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
that they are doing everything they've got to do correctly. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
I'll fight anything. I told you. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
If I'm in the right, I'm telling the truth... | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Old lady, we don't do BLEEP. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Honestly, we tell the truth. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
The adjudicator directs London Borough of Lambeth | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
to cancel the penalty notice charge. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Don't just look at the ticket, sign the cheque and send it to them, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
you know. They've got to comply with the law, just like everybody else, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
and that they're expecting you to comply with the law | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
then they should, too. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
Jason Lord was caught on CCTV going the wrong way up a one-way street. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
He's here, ready to argue his case. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
What is your defence? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
My defence really is a series of mitigating factors. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I don't deny that I made the right turn when it was banned. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
It was me driving the car. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
I'm bang to rights on the CCTV. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
My main issue is with the signage for this particular junction. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
You feel brave enough to come here today and challenge it. I do. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
The most important thing for me being here, really, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
isn't about my ticket. And I mean this sincerely - it's about safety. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
So, if nothing else, win or lose the appeal, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
I would like Islington to change that signage. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
OK. That's a message for them. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
How confident are you feeling? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
In terms of...? The result. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
In terms of my appeal, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
I would imagine that the adjudicator would side with | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
Islington Council on the basis that to the letter of the law they say | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
that their signage is correct, you know, within the regulations. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
My appeal is to common sense rather than to technicalities. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
How much was the reduced fine? The reduced fine would be ?65. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
What's it standing at the moment? 130. OK, so it's double. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Effectively, I've, you know, taken a ?65 risk, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
is the difference between those two numbers, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
to come here today to talk to the adjudicator. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Jason, we'll see how it goes. OK. Thanks, Dom. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Well, it sounds like Jason's done his homework, but will | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
adjudicator Belinda Pearce give him a ticking off or a gold star? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Mr Lord. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Thank you. Hello, Mr Lord. Come and take a seat, please. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
If you want to put your things down beside you, you can. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Shall I close the door or leave it open? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
No, we leave it open, unless, of course, there's any | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
extraneous noise from outside that distracts you. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
Let's start with the authority's evidence... OK. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
..because they are presenting the case, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
and the transgression that they say occurred here | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
is against these signs. Yes. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
You can see that they're round signs with a red outline | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
and that means prohibition. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
And underneath, it says, "Except cycles." | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
So the symbol within the sign is a motorbike and a motorcar. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
So let's run the CCTV footage. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
There we have it. You drive past the signs. Mm-hm. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
So Jason agrees. I don't think Belinda expected this. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
So what do you want to say about that? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
What I want to say is a number of mitigating factors. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
Right, can I just pause you there? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
I don't want to stop you, I'm just pausing you just to explain | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
that my remit doesn't go as far as taking mitigation into account. OK. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
If mitigation is compelling, there are ways in which I can refer | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
it back to the local authority if they haven't already considered it. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
OK. So do you want me to now bring up your evidence? Yes, please. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
There we are. So, yes, please, tell me. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
When I was driving around this area, which I do know well, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
and I'm aware of that junction, but I've always felt that it | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
would be very, very easy to turn mistakenly at that junction. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
Well, you were aware of it, you say? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
So you were aware of the signs. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
In the back of my mind, yes. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Not a very good start. I can't see him getting away with this fine. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I think this is your image of the junction. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
What do you want to say about this? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
So, as you approach at 90 degrees, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
the prohibited motor vehicles signage is effectively end-on | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
and therefore that's not visible. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
There's another factor here which is you can see from the image | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
that a lamppost actually obscures that, the one on the right, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
as I come towards it. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Well, at this particular... Yes. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
..moment in time, but you will be travelling and you'll be travelling | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
and seeing it before and after this particular snapshot in time. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
HE MOUTHS | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
I think Belinda must have heard it all before | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
but Jason's not giving up. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
My submission is that if these were the more instantly recognisable | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
red "no entry" signs with the white bar across, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
that far fewer people would make this mistake. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Well, they can't be, because that would be no entry for all vehicles, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
and this location does facilitate some... It does. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
..being able to travel there. Yeah. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
So those signs would not be appropriate. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
It doesn't look like Belinda's buying any of this. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
I must determine whether the signage is adequate or not. OK. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
Let's take a look at the facts. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Jason was caught on CCTV driving the wrong way up a one-way street. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
He argues that the signs are | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
confusing and difficult to understand. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
His mistake has landed him with a ?130 ticket. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
The question is will Belinda accept his argument that | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
the signs weren't clear enough? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
I find this to be adequate. I find it to be unambiguous. OK. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
The motorist must be conscious of the signs. OK. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
It's a ?130 fine. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
But Jason came here to make a point, and make it he will. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
A brief look online shows the top ten locations where, in Islington, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
for CCTV, cars producing penalty charge notices | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
and it's no surprise to me that Calshot Street, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
month after month, comes top of the pops. It's number one. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
That's not really something that I need to hear | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
or I can take into account. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
We're here today for me to determine | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
whether you have contravened a particular restriction. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
At the moment, on the evidence, I have to weigh up both sides, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
and the evidence shows that the vehicle did contravene that. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
OK. I'm... OK. ..making my finding on that. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
You accept that you made a mistake, a mistake I can't take into account. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
As I said, I must make my decision on the evidence. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I'm satisfied on the evidence before me. OK. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I'll be refusing this appeal. OK. Understood. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
I... And so what happens now is that I have my decision typed up | 0:31:12 | 0:31:19 | |
and that will be sent to you in the next few days. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Well, that's that, then. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:23 | |
Oh, no, it's not. Hold on a minute. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
OK. Thank you very much. Two things very quickly, if I may. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
No, the hearing's finished now. Thank you. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
Whoops. OK. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Would you like your photos back? Thank you very much. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
I was here hoping... I was not here in any great expectation of | 0:31:39 | 0:31:45 | |
my appeal being upheld. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Mr Lord, I'm here to determine whether | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
a contravention occurred or not. Understood. Thanks very much. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
Thank you very much, Mr Lord. Goodbye. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
I can tell you're not happy. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
JASON LAUGHS | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
It's disappointing. yeah. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Even though you sort of felt that you weren't going to win the case, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
I do quite admire the fact that you wanted to make a point there. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Right. How do you feel about the result? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
It is frustrating when you feel like there are a couple | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
more things you had to say. Yeah. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
I was hopeful that at least it would be recognised that this isn't | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
a frivolous or a vexatious appeal and that I would have been | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
allowed to pay the reduced sum, at the very least. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Do you feel that justice has been unfair to you or do you | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
actually feel that, you know, the signs are there? | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Do you agree with her? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
I agree that I've made a mistake but Islington Council have | 0:32:38 | 0:32:45 | |
a very expensive-looking camera constantly trained on that junction. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
To the layman, it looks like a trap. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
You think it's a cash cow. Yes. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
So if Islington can afford to put up | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
a very expensive camera system there, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
surely they can afford to change a couple of signs to make it clearer. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
If there's one thing I hate, it's littering, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
and my time On The Spot has taught me that I'm definitely not alone. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
It's just not nice, like, having to cross the road and stuff | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
cos you don't want to be walking through people's rubbish. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
If people got brought up, told by their parents, really, that | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
it's not acceptable... My mum would have given me a slap if I did that. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
So now, as an adult, I don't do it. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
People should be bagging it up and putting it in bins cos it's | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
not really a good habit to get into. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
And once you get into it, you can't really get out of it that easily. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
I think they should be put against the wall and shot, personally, but... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
But it's not always clear what's litter and what isn't. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Earlier, in Pendle... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
..we met environmental crime officer Jon Yurek | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
and his partner in grime, Lesley, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
as they brought a fly-tipper to justice. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
On this occasion, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
we've obviously got the story from start to finish, if you will. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Now Jon's back on patrol on his regular town-centre beat. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
They've clocked me. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
Armed with the power to issue an on-the-spot fine | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
of ?75 for littering, Jon's mission | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
is to keep the streets clean and the litter louts in check. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
It's not always cigarettes, is it? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
No, it's not always cigarettes and it's not always people. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Sometimes the source of the problem comes from above. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
If someone's feeding the pigeons and the pigeons are there, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
that's fine, but when they're just throwing food onto the floor | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
and there's nothing actually consuming the food, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
you might as well be littering, you know, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
because there's nothing actually there to consume the stuff | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
you're throwing on the floor. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
So, are our feathered friends in line for a fine? | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Well, of course not. Jon can't fine the pigeons. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Well, not yet, anyway. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Like any town centre, Pendle is plagued by pigeons, and, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
while they need to eat, anyone found feeding them inappropriately | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
may find themselves on the end of a ?75 fine. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
There's a fella, looks like he's throwing food everywhere. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:24 | |
He looks like he's trying to entice a pigeon down or something but... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
I'm going to have a chat with him. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
Hi, pal. You all right? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Am I in bother? Well... | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm from Pendle Borough Council. I'm an environmental crime officer. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
What do you...? Are you just...? Food. Feeding. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Jon has spotted a friend of our feathered friends who could be | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
in line for an on-the-spot fine for littering. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
How many pigeons are you feeding? I don't know. I had four before. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
They're taking the time and coming back down. Yeah. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
Now consider this. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
If the average pigeon produces around 11 kilos of droppings | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
every year and there are 18 million pigeons in this country, then that's | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
close to a total of 200,000 tonnes of pigeon poo produced every year - | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
almost the weight of 450 jumbo jets. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
You've put enough out. OK? Can you just stop now? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
If you're feeding pigeons, OK, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
it's like a little kid throwing breadcrumbs to a pigeon, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
but what I don't want you to do is... I don't know how long | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
you've been doing this and I'm sure it's just a... First day. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
OK, it's your first day. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
If I can just give you advice. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
If the pigeons are here | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
on the ground and you're feeding them, that's fine. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
But if the pigeons are up there and they're not interested and | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
you walk away, all you've done is just left a lot of crumbs and | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
seeds and stuff like that, you're not actually feeding anything, OK? | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
The only things that are going to come now and eat this | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
are probably going to be the rats. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
It might not be littering but feeding the pigeons | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
has another even more unpleasant effect. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
When you've fed these pigeons, these pigeons are full, OK? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
These pigeons are going to leave and there's some very nice people | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
over there and the last thing | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
they want to do is have an armada of pigeons bombing them, you know? | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
OK, Jon, what's the plan? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
Let's review the evidence. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
We've got a man on the roof with a box of birdseed... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
..birdseed scattered all over the floor... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
..and a flock of angry pigeons waiting for us to leave. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Is that enough for an on-the-spot fine? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
So, they've got enough food. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:36 | |
I've got no objection to you feeding pigeons. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Just don't, you know, feed them so much food. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
Jon has let this guy go with a caution. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
As long as he doesn't overdo it, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
the man can carry on feeding the birds. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
Well, at least someone's happy. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
If you can see them, they're scattered about, they're there, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
waiting for me to go now and come and eat, cos they think | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
you're coming to catch them or whatever, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
which... I still haven't got that relationship with them. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
But they'll come and they'll eat. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Though Jon doesn't seem so sure. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
All that's going to happen is | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
that stuff's going to stay there for days now. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Never mind, Jon. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
Let's hope a big bird swoops down and gobbles it up. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Next up, I'm in Wiltshire... | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
..with traffic cop Warren Knight... | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
..the scourge of the county's speeders, drink-drivers, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
uninsured motorists | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
and tubby truckers. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
Tubby truckers? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Surely you can't get a fine for that. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
He's overloaded on his rear axle. What? This front on the tractor? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
Drive. Drive axle, yeah. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Oh, I see. The truck is overweight. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Actually, it's a serious business. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
More than half of fatal accidents on motorways involve HGVs. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
This driver has been pulled on a routine check at a weighbridge - | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
a large metal platform with scales underneath | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
on which he has to park his truck. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
So is this beast of a truck going to land its Polish driver | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
in a whole load of bother in the shape of an on-the-spot fine? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Sadly, it's not just overloading | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
that has trucks like this inspected these days. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Do you ever look in the back of these vehicles? Yeah, yeah. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Often we will do, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever spotted the obvious? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
You know, people in there. Yeah, we had one about six weeks ago. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
This was an interesting one. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
This had a human trafficking marker on ANPR. Oh, OK. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
So it came up to say it was involved in human trafficking. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
We brought it into the weighbridge, it was overloaded, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
the driver was a foreign national, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
he had no driving licence, he had no insurance, and in the back of | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
this very overweight vehicle, I noticed something moving and | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
there were three people underneath all the goods in the back. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
What happened to that person? He got arrested. Right. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
Yeah, he got arrested. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
I don't think this driver is facing arrest but | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
he could be staring down a pretty hefty fine. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
On a lorry, each axle has its own weight limit | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
so, for a multi-axle vehicle, it can really add up. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Are you aware you're about to receive fines and penalties | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
for being overweight, possibly in the hundreds of pounds? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
It's a very big penalty. Very big penalty. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Yeah, but this is your law, yeah? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
This is your rules and you have to be OK, yeah? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
Yes. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
If we come to England, we have to... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
You have to abide by the law. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Did the officer tell you how much it's going to cost you? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Yeah. Possibly ?400 or ?500. Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
That's an awful lot of money in fines. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Unfortunately. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
The vehicle there, it's massively overweight. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
The handling of the vehicle, the handling characteristics, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
where the load shifts and moves about, obviously it just doesn't | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
manoeuvre the same way because the acceleration changes and the braking | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
is impacted because the vehicle isn't designed to carry that weight. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
The brakes are designed for certain efficiencies. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
It won't brake in the same way if it was a normal weight. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
So he'd have to allow a far greater distance | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
and if he's not paying attention and he's not got enough time, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
he'll just plough into the back of somebody. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
So let's weigh up the facts. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
As they say at diet clubs, apparently the scales don't lie, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
and that is one heavy truck. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
So what's the damage? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Now what's happening here? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
My colleague's going to issue him with a fixed penalty notice. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
It doesn't attract points, this type of offence. Yeah. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
But it will attract a fine which, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
because he lives outside the UK, that fine is payable now, basically. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
Come here, buddy. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
This fine, you know, has got to be paid tonight. Did you know that? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah? | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Everything is OK, yeah. Oh, good! I hope it is. Yeah. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
It turns out he was only overweight on two axles | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
so it's a ?200 on-the-spot fine, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
and when I say on-the-spot, this time I mean on-the-spot. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
What happens if his card doesn't go through, which I think is going... | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
that's what's happening now, and he hasn't got enough? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
He would get arrested, taken to the police station, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
put before the court in the morning. Oh, wow. Potentially, yeah. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
If he can't pay. If he can't pay... He has to pay his fine, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
because if we let him go, he'll never pay his fine. Yeah. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Unlike in the UK, where we would send a summons to the UK address, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
we can't do that with the EU, because it's very difficult... | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Of course. ..to serve the summons in the first place. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
So the fine will have to be paid. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:40 | |
His problems are not over yet because his credit card's not | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
going through and he's trying to get his bosses in Germany to pay the bill. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
If it doesn't get paid, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
Paul from Poland is going to be spending the night here. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
It's cold, it's wet, it's miserable, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
it's a Sunday evening and the football's on. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
He might be staying here - I'm certainly not. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
We've a spell of sunshine heading our way. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
With hot new comedies and fresh twists on cool classics. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Mr Humphries, are you free? I'm free! | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
This is not squalor. This is genteel property. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
I will have you, Fletcher. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:44 |