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'Never before have so many on-the- spot fines being issued in Britain.

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'We're going to be following the men and women who hand out

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'over ?30 million worth of tickets every month...'

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Oops. Round here they are an absolute blight.

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I'm up to 104 now. Wow.

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That is disgusting. Just walk away.

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'..for behaviour that's downright dangerous...'

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That was stupid for these sort of conditions.

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'..simply selfish...'

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Look at the mess you've created in the street.

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How is that our fault? '..or just...'

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What is he doing?

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'..well, plain silly.'

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What a doughnut.

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'We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour...'

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?100 fine.

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Pays ?260. Ouch.

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'..and how this could affect you.'

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I'll give him a punch. Do you want to see me kick off?

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'The police are on it...'

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What the...?! Sir!

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'..the parking wardens are on it...'

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They should be thanking us for being here.

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'..and I'm on it.'

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Careful, it's a 30mph limit here.

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'I'm Dom Littlewood,

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'and I'm on the spot.

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'Today, we'll be meeting one man talking a load of old rubbish

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'with a ?400 fine at stake.'

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Do you know what? Everyone who's been through this BLEEP bin,

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get out now.

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'It's operation dog poo in Pendle

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'as one resident highlights an ongoing problem.'

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Ah, here we have some, here, look.

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And that's what it's all about.

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'And drivers who abuse disabled parking spaces

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'face a fate worse than a fine.'

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If you're actually embarrassed by what you've done,

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would you mind just putting your hand up?

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'It's a tough job policing our roads.'

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You were doing 81, average speed.

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Why have you got your phone between your lap?

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I don't believe you were not using your phone.

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'Today I'm out with Gloucestershire traffic cops

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'PC Shelley Holloway and PC Olly Buxton.

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'We're in an unmarked police car,

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'which means traffic offenders can't see us coming.'

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We're in Cheltenham town centre.

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What are you likely to experience here?

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Being unmarked is great, because obviously it's busier,

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you're more likely to find people committing offences...

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..from the simple things like not wearing their seatbelt...

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'Over 95% of front-seat passengers

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'in Great Britain do remember to buckle up,

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'so you'd have to be a bit of a numpty not to.

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'Speaking of which...'

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Hiya. You're not wearing your seatbelt.

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Is it done up under your body?

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Can I have a chat about that, if it's all right?

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Can you pull over and we'll have a chat?

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'This driver has made a conscious decision to ignore the law

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'and not wear his seatbelt.

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'So it looks like it could be Shelley's first on-the-spot

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'fine of the day.'

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It's a brand-new car,

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he's obviously got an alarm which will tell him he's not wearing his

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seatbelt, so what they do to get around that is fasten it

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and then sit on the seat so it stops the alarm going off.

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It's a very deliberate effort to avoid wearing a seatbelt.

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I can't see the logic in that.

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No shortage of work for you, Shelley. No shortage of work at all.

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'I've got a feeling this could end up costing this driver.'

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I could see you weren't wearing your seatbelt. Is this your vehicle?

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OK, so how long have you had this vehicle?

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OK.

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'But hang on, there may be something

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'much more serious going on in this car.'

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I can smell cannabis in here.

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Do you...? You don't use cannabis, no?

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'Hold on a minute.'

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There's a crowbar in the passenger seat.

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Don't pick it up. What's that there for?

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'If they find cannabis in this car,

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'they could be looking at something

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'even worse than an on-the-spot fine.'

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Have you got anything on you you shouldn't have?

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'So what are Shelley's options

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'if this driver does have cannabis on him?'

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Obviously with cannabis, if you've got a personal amount

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it can be dealt with by way of a street caution,

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we don't have to arrest.

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That's why I gave you the opportunity to tell me whether

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you've got anything on you, OK?

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Olly, cannabis in the car, as well, smell of.

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'All because he couldn't be bothered to wear his seatbelt.

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'What does his passenger have to say?'

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You and your mate just got stopped. Yeah.

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Your mate had pretended to put his seatbelt on.

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He clicked it into the little... Silly, isn't he? Why did he do that?

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I don't know. He must...

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He thought he put it on, but he put it over the back...

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He couldn't have thought he put it on!

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He had to click it himself. He's a naughty lad, I give him that.

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'I may have been born at night, but not last night.

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'I don't know about cannabis, but I think I can smell a fine coming.'

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What I need you to do is generate some saliva in your mouth

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by rubbing your tongue on the inside of your left cheek three times,

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then the inside of your right cheek

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and then across the bottom of your inside of your lip three times.

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And then stick your tongue out nice and long for me.

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As a result of Shelley being able to smell cannabis on the driver -

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and bear in mind this was a simple seatbelt stop -

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she's now done a drugs test, she's taken a swab from his mouth,

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and that's gone into some chemicals.

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It takes eight minutes to get a result.

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And as a result of her smelling that cannabis,

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she's now also called in a dog unit.

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So there's a dog going to be coming now, as far as I know.

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He'll go over to that car trying to spot any drugs that might be

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hidden away.

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'Eight minutes to wait to see if there's a fine coming.

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'If he has been drug-driving, he could be looking at an unlimited

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'fine and up to six months behind bars.

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'But hang on,

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'it looks like there could be yet another offence to add to the list.'

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This rental agreement ends at two o'clock, though, today.

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So you might not be insured.

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'And if he wasn't in enough trouble already,

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'the rental car he's driving was supposed to be returned an hour ago,

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'so there may also be a fine for driving without insurance.

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'I think this one may end up being a no-brainer.'

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As long as your credit card... It's the insurance I need to...

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It's got to still be valid, because it's...

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'PC Holloway calls the hire-car

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'company to see if he is still insured.'

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Hello, I've just stopped a vehicle belonging to you, and the agreement

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ended at two o'clock today.

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So I'm just ringing to find out whether you'd honour the cover.

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No, I don't want an e-mail address, I'd like to speak to someone.

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Am I talking to Avis?

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In Barcelona?!

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No, I rang the Bristol number on his agreement.

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'Let's hope that's a mistake. It's a long drive to Barcelona.

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'But this guy seems to be driving himself closer and closer

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'to an on-the-spot fine.'

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All this just from not wearing a seatbelt.

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Not wearing a seatbelt, yeah. That's normally the way.

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One thing throws up a lot of others.

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If the hire company won't extend his insurance, what will happen then,

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do you know? He's driving without insurance then,

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so the vehicle will be seized.

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And, yeah, he'll be having a ticket, six points.

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?200 fine.

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'OK, so let's review the mounting evidence.

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'This guy was caught not wearing his seatbelt.

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'There might be drugs in the car,

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'which means he could be found to be driving under the influence.

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'And on top of that, he might not be insured.

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'If it's all true, he could be looking at a shedload of fines,

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'a driving ban and even a prison sentence.

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'The canine reinforcements have arrived.

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'Will there be drugs in the car?'

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'As PC Holloway said, if this little guy finds anything,

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'then a small amount for personal possession could be dealt with using

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'a caution and an on-the-spot fine.

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'Has the dog found something?

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'The search is over.'

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That's clear, then.

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'It's clean, not a sausage.

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'But what about the result for the drugs test?'

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Shelley carried out a drugs test on him. Do you know the results?

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I believe the drug test was negative.

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'So, no on-the-spot fine for possession of cannabis,

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'but that isn't the end of the list. What about the insurance?'

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It's in his name, the agreement, so I just needed to check

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they were still happy for him to have had the car

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in his possession.

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'Luckily for him, the car is still insured.

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'But for the offence which opened this whole can of worms,

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'not wearing his seatbelt, it's a ?100 fine.'

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So, as a result of spotting somebody trying to pretend they were wearing

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a seatbelt, that turned into quite a little episode, didn't it?

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It sure did. It normally does with me.

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But, to be fair to both occupants of the car,

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they clearly didn't have anything to hide today

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and they were both very pleasant.

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If he'd worn his seatbelt, it wouldn't have even happened. No.

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'Job done. On to the next.

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'Let's be honest, no-one wants to look out of their window and be

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'greeted by a street full of dumped rubbish.

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'Fly-tipping is a real eyesore, and it costs council-tax payers

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'like you and I over ?45 million a year for local councils

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'to clear it up.

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'Here in the Pendle district of Lancashire,

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'clearing up the mess is down to environmental crime officer

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'Lesley Brooks.

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'She's had a tip-off about some household waste that's been dumped

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'in a back alley in a residential area.'

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Just going to a street in Nelson, Elizabeth Street.

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One of the neighbours has phoned in to say

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the occupants of this property have just recently moved in and they have

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just cleared the contents of it out into this back alley.

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'If it's just a case of putting the wrong rubbish out on the wrong day,

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'then it might mean a fine of ?75.

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'But if the waste dumped is bad enough,

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'the fine could be as much as ?400.

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'Time to check out the scene of the crime.'

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This is what's supposed to have been thrown out onto the street,

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I'm presuming, anyway.

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'So far, a few bits of everyday rubbish.

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'Not looking too bad at the moment.

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'But hold your horses.'

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I can't imagine that...

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It's just a right mess all the way down this back alley!

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Apparently it was cleared this morning,

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so this has only just appeared this afternoon.

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'What a horrible sight, right outside people's homes.'

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I've been given the information that someone has recently moved in here,

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so what they've done is just come to

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the back door with whatever rubbish they've got

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and slung it out.

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This hasn't even been bagged up. Furniture's been thrown out.

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I'll take photographs in case we're going to proceed with a prosecution.

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'It looks a right mess and also pretty unhygienic.'

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There's children here playing.

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I presume these are the neighbours' children.

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I suppose the one saving grace is it's not food waste.

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But even so, you don't know what it's contaminated with.

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'And to make matters worse,

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'they've only gone and chucked away a Shakin' Stevens album!

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'Now, surely that's just criminal. We all love a bit of Shaky.'

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That's got needles and stuff in, so that can't be left.

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'Needles? This gets worse and worse!

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'Not only unsightly but dangerous, too.

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'So, who is responsible for this shocking mess?

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'Time for Lesley to turn detective.

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'It's often impossible to tell, but in this case paperwork

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'found amongst the rubbish confirms what Lesley already suspects.

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'First step, is anybody home?'

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Hiya. You all right? My name's Lesley Brooks,

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environmental crime officer from Pendle Borough Council.

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Could you just come round the back of your house for me and speak to me

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at the back of the property? I've just moved in today.

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Right, so...

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If you just open the back door and just come into the back...

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The landlord's got the keys.

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I'm just paying the deposit this morning.

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Right. We've just moved in. I'm her boyfriend.

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Right, OK.

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You on about all the rubbish at the back? It's scavengers everywhere.

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'The new tenant's boyfriend is home

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'but doesn't seem to think the rubbish is theirs.

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'And if it's not theirs, who gets the on-the-spot fine?'

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Well, yeah, it's disgusting, isn't it?

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What it is, we've just paid the landlord,

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the landlord comes tonight at five o'clock.

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She's got to pay 600 quid and then she moves in.

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I've just literally replastered, as you noticed.

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I'm in there plastering at the moment.

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But, yeah, it's disgusting.

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'But Lesley isn't going to let this go.

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'She has good evidence that the rubbish belongs to this house.'

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The stuff is obviously from the property.

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No. This... We've only... We've just decorated and moved in.

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Right, OK. So, when did you decorate? This morning. Right.

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Tell me again.

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There was no clothes in there. There was a big bag.

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Here. It's all open, it's all across here.

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See all this paper? This was one bag. See this black bag? Yeah...

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There was stuff coming out of it. That's from the house.

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That was in this bin. There was only one bag come out the house.

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'So this chap says the bag full of stripped-off

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'wallpaper is his and nothing else.

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'It's still dumped rubbish and still a fineable offence.'

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So where was all this, then, at the weekend?

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Here, when I got here. It was all out here.

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'But I thought Lesley said there wasn't anything here this morning.

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'Something's not adding up.'

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When I come round the corner,

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one of the neighbours' children has been sat in the middle of all this.

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Now, all right... That's disgusting, that.

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..I would suggest that to avoid any further action

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in regard to yourself...

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You've already told me that that bag, that you done that,

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that you're going to clear that bit up. Happily. Happily, love.

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'Time to lay it on the line, Lesley. Is it a fine or a warning?'

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I'm not happy that it hasn't come from you and it's been slung out.

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I know what you're saying about the paper, but there's too much here.

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You need to tidy this up, and if not,

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you'll get a letter from the council in regard to coming in

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for an interview, and then you get the opportunity to officially put

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your side of the story.

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Everyone who's been through this BLEEP bin, get out now!

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'Well, that went well(!)'

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Whoever's gone through the bin wants to get out their houses now.

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I'm not bothered. I am not digging through that.

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I'll help. If someone gives me help, because this is my missus's house,

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I will help. It's BLEEP disgusting.

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I am fuming. I thought you was coming to help me.

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Getting letters and that, BLEEP... If I get the brush out in a minute,

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love, sweep it all in a corner...

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If I get the couches over here and I take pictures myself,

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say someone else taking a picture with me as proof,

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is that going to be enough from my end?

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'This chap is adamant that this isn't his mess

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'but is going to have a go at clearing it up.

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'Will it be enough to avoid an on-the-spot fine, though?'

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I'll come back in an hour.

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Done.

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All right, then. Thank you.

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'So, let's look at the situation.

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'We've got old furniture, electrical appliances, mattresses

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'and, to top it all, a box of needles which could be contaminated

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'in an area where there are kids playing.'

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I didn't really believe his story that he hadn't done it all, but...

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well, we'll see.

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'Whether or not Lesley believes this guy's story,

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'she's got a few different options of how to deal with him.

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'She can issue him with a caution,

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'she could hand him an on-the-spot fine of up to ?400,

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'or he could face a court summons.

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'I reckon the more you tidy now, fellas,

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'the easier she might be on you.'

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It's absolutely disgusting. I can't wait to go and get a bath.

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'So Lesley's given the boys their promised hour,

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'but will the back alley look any less abused?'

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I'm presuming he's not going to be round the back,

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but I'll have a look there first anyway, take photos.

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Wow. SHE LAUGHS

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I didn't think he'd have made that good a job.

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'What a transformation.'

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Yeah, he's cleared it up.

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He's made quite a good job of clearing it up, to be honest!

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I'm surprised. If I just take photographs...

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It's like a different back street, almost.

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I'm very pleasantly surprised.

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He's still not allowed to put stuff on the back street like this,

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but he's made an effort in that it's all been cleared up.

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'It costs the local council-tax payers of Pendle nearly ?150,000

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'a year to clear fly-tipped waste,

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'and any efforts to reduce those costs have to be a good thing.

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'So the boys' impressive tidying skills might just tip the balance in

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'their favour. What is Lesley's verdict going to be?'

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By rights, this shouldn't all be in the back alley now.

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It's down to the senior environmental crime officer

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if any further action was going to be taken,

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but I think it's unlikely. You've done a good job clearing it all up.

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'So it's a caution, even if he didn't think it was his fault.'

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This was definitely not us. I admit to one bag.

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'That's a good result. Don't spoil it, mate.'

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Cheers, thank you very much.

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I've just got to go for a bath.

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'So no fine this time,

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'but there's still work for Lesley and her team to do.'

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Tidied up, but it may well be a mess tomorrow morning if people do come

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along and sort through it.

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So I need to make arrangements to try and get it moved

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as quick as possible...

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or we'll be back to square one again.

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Dog poo, my favourite subject.

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Not. In fact, nobody likes it. It's incredibly unhygienic

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and potentially dangerous to young children.

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And in most boroughs, if you don't pick up after your pooch,

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you'll get an on-the-spot fine.

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But sometimes finding the culprits can be easier said than done.

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Having had children who come home with dog muck over their shoes,

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I think they should be fined.

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I think they should have their dogs taken off them.

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Most of the people I know do carry bags, dog bags, baby wipes.

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They should fine them for dog messing, but it's catching them,

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isn't it? That's the reason why I always carry bags with me.

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I always have done. I've got a dog of my own.

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What annoys me is when people, they leave it and

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they just don't bother.

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'Well, in Pendle, in Lancashire,

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'there are very strict rules about dog fouling.

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'Any dog owner caught in the business and not bagging it

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'round here will be hit with a ?75 fine.

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'But it's not always easy to catch the culprits.'

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Ah, here we have some, here, look. I'll show you what I've been up to.

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'No, Bob Sloan isn't Pendle's resident Banksy.'

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And that's what it's all about.

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'76-year-old Bob is on one of his regular neighbourhood

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'dog-poop patrols, and

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'he knows all about how thoughtless dog owners behave.'

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It all seems to happen during the hours of darkness, when people are

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walking their dogs, they don't have much chance of being spotted by

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enthusiasts like me, because they can be prosecuted.

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Ah! Look here.

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Here we have a... Yeah,

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a doggy bag that's just been dropped.

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So here we go again.

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'Bob sprays the mess to show the location

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'and e-mails the pictures to the council.'

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Just shows how absolutely inconsiderate people are,

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and if you're walking your dog and it

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does a dump on the pavement or elsewhere, pick it up,

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put it in a bag and then take the bag and put it in a bin.

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It just makes me wonder what goes on between the ears of some people.

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'Bob wanted to highlight the poop problem

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'after being caught out himself.'

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Many years, when I first came here to Bentham,

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I was taking a friend's dog for a walk and it did its business and I

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didn't do anything about it, and I was roundly told off by an elderly

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gentleman. The message stuck, I must admit.

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It wasn't a moment that I was particularly proud of.

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'Now armed with his can of paint,

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'Bob is on a mission to do HIS bit for the streets.

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'And with more than 8 million dogs in the UK,

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'producing nearly 400,000 tonnes of mess each year,

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'he's certainly got his work cut out.

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There we go, a nice, bright spot.

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'But Bob's approach isn't appreciated by everyone.'

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There have been one or two objections to the fact

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that the paint stays after the dog muck evaporates.

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And I did get a

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fairly mild warning that I could actually be prosecuted for graffiti.

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But I don't know, I don't look at it that way.

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I'm just going to keep on doing it because that's my business.

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'Well, I hope Bob doesn't appear later on in the show receiving an

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'on-the-spot fine for graffiti.'

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That was a very large and very overfed dog, I think.

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'And he's got loyal supporters...'

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Hi, Bob. '..as well as his critics.

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'For some residents, Bob's become a bit of a hero.'

0:22:520:22:55

As you can see, there's one there, there's another one there,

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there's another one just round the corner. I have got two little kids,

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I've got a two-year-old and a five-year-old,

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and it's much easier to tell them

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to watch out for paint

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than it is telling them to watch out for dog mess.

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It makes a big difference to me, so personally I'm on your side.

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Well, I'm really pleased

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to be of help.

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'One thing is for sure...'

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SPRAY-PAINT CAN RATTLES

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'..as long as there are irresponsible dog owners in Pendle,

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'Bob is going to be kept very busy.

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'Being a traffic warden may not be many people's idea of a dream job,

0:23:320:23:36

'but with more and more cars on our roads each year,

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'it's a job that certainly needs doing.'

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When I see a ticket on a car, I usually think

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that the person deserved that.

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I sometimes see people parked where there are double yellow lines

0:23:470:23:52

and you feel, why haven't they had a ticket?

0:23:520:23:56

You see them behind cars, especially the ones where they do...

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where you can stay there for half an hour.

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There's no time. No grace.

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They ain't got no grace. They stick the ticket, that's it.

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How do you feel about that? Do you feel a bit of a grievance?

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Yeah. Grievance, it's about how

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to dispute it, to go around it, do you know what I mean?

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That's the hardest part, when you start... They are so difficult,

0:24:160:24:19

it's like they don't want to help you. 'Well, the good news is,

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'if you do feel the fine was unfair,

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'you can actually do something about it.

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'Up to 50,000 people a year bring their cases to

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'the London parking tribunal, where an independent adjudicator

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'decides their fate.

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'Today, Mel Walker is here with an excuse of a rather delicate nature.'

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I was taken short in Camden,

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tummy problem,

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so I parked very quickly outside

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McDonald's or Burger King,

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went in, came out about 10, 15 minutes later and drove off.

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I had my blue badge up, disabled badge, and I drove off, and to me,

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that was the end of it. And then, of course, 10 or 14 days later,

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I got a ticket for parking.

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'Mel has received a fine of ?130,

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'which reduces to ?65 if paid within 14 days.

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'As Mel's decided to appeal,

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'spending a penny could end up costing him a whole lot more,

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'unless he can persuade adjudicator Belinda Pearce to give him a pardon

0:25:220:25:26

'for his tummy troubles.'

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If we just

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look at the allegation from the authority,

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it states that you parked contrary to this sign.

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The sign is a red-route sign saying,

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no stopping at any time between eight in the morning,

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seven in the evening.

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Mm-hm.

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There is an exemption to that,

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and that's between eight in the morning and four in the afternoon,

0:25:480:25:52

when certain vehicles can park -

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those that are loading and those that have disabled badges.

0:25:540:25:58

And I understand you're saying you had a disabled badge.

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The contravention, though, is that you were parked at six o'clock.

0:26:010:26:04

That's right.

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And from four to six, there's no stopping for any vehicles,

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rather four till seven.

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So you parked at a time when the prohibition didn't include

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an exemption for disabled badge holders.

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Well, I don't think Belinda could be any clearer.

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When you think it's only ten minutes, because you're going to

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the toilet, you've got a blue badge,

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you do believe you can stop for ten minutes.

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You are entitled with your blue badge to stop at many more places.

0:26:290:26:33

Red routes, though, have a prohibition against parking.

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But they say you can park...

0:26:370:26:38

But this one, you can't.

0:26:380:26:39

'It's not looking good for Mel.'

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I did appeal immediately. Yes.

0:26:410:26:43

And back came a letter from TfL, and they said,

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thank you very much for your appeal, we'll look into it.

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Please do not take any action until you hear from us.

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Yes. Two months later I had a letter saying,

0:26:530:26:56

we've looked at this and you shouldn't park there,

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and you're fined ?130.

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'?130 does seem a bit harsh,

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'especially if they told him not to do anything.

0:27:050:27:08

'I think you might have a point,

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'but it's not up to me to uphold the on-the-spot fine.'

0:27:090:27:12

Well, we all live and learn, don't we?

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Unfortunately. 'We certainly do.

0:27:150:27:17

'Seems like Belinda has got two options.

0:27:170:27:20

'To let him off or stick to the fine.

0:27:200:27:22

'Question is, will it be number one or number two?

0:27:220:27:25

'Let's take a look at this more closely.

0:27:250:27:28

'Mel parks on a red route,

0:27:280:27:29

'thinking his blue badge entitled him to be there.

0:27:290:27:32

'Problem is, the sign clearly stated that he was there outside

0:27:330:27:37

'of the designated times.

0:27:370:27:39

'Mel's confusion about when to pay the fine has landed him with

0:27:400:27:45

'a ?130 ticket.

0:27:450:27:46

'Will Belinda see his side of the story

0:27:470:27:50

'will Mel's call of nature end up costing him the earth?'

0:27:500:27:53

I have to say that you were in the bay with the sign that clearly says

0:27:540:27:59

that your three-hour dispensation as a disabled badge holder was only

0:27:590:28:04

between eight and four.

0:28:040:28:06

You were seen there parked at six, so I have to refuse your appeal.

0:28:060:28:10

'There we go.

0:28:100:28:12

'Mel's appeal has failed and he is going to have to pay up.'

0:28:120:28:15

But I can say that that discount that you were talking about that you

0:28:160:28:21

would have preferred to have paid is something that Transport for London

0:28:210:28:25

are extending to you today.

0:28:250:28:27

So the payment is ?65.

0:28:270:28:30

'Well, at least that's some relief, Mel?'

0:28:300:28:33

Not happy, but you can't be happy all the time.

0:28:330:28:35

Well, Mr Walker, on the evidence, on the facts, you were parked at six.

0:28:350:28:40

Between four and seven, no stopping at a red route.

0:28:400:28:44

Your dispensation... When you're taken short,

0:28:440:28:47

you don't really look up and see what you can or can't do.

0:28:470:28:50

Well, I hear what you say, but as I indicated at the beginning

0:28:510:28:54

of the hearing, I have to make my decision on the evidence,

0:28:540:28:57

and the facts say I must refuse it.

0:28:570:28:59

But I'm able to tell you that the payment is ?65 in this case.

0:28:590:29:04

Have I got 14 or 21 days from now? You have 28 from today. 28.

0:29:040:29:07

'Oh, poor Mel.

0:29:070:29:09

'When you've got to go, you've got to go.

0:29:090:29:11

'I do feel a bit sorry for him.

0:29:110:29:13

'?65, that's a real inconvenience.'

0:29:130:29:16

Right, Mel.

0:29:180:29:19

It's a sort of, although it's a contradiction in itself,

0:29:190:29:22

it's a bit of a win-lose scenario, isn't it?

0:29:220:29:25

How do you feel about the outcome?

0:29:250:29:26

I'm not happy.

0:29:260:29:28

I'm not happy because sometimes you are not given a chance.

0:29:280:29:31

I have problems. I have a badge because of these problems.

0:29:310:29:35

If you're taken short and you want to stop for five or ten minutes,

0:29:350:29:38

you don't go around looking and say...

0:29:380:29:40

If you see it like I saw that car parked there, and you think,

0:29:400:29:43

"Oh, that must be one of the bays I can park..."

0:29:430:29:45

You were in the wrong, even though it was confusing.

0:29:450:29:48

But when you are in the wrong, you should have that...

0:29:480:29:51

she should have the right

0:29:510:29:53

to turn around and say, "I understand where you're coming from,

0:29:530:29:55

"I understand you have got a blue badge, you are not a well man,

0:29:550:29:58

"you've had to stop. All right, don't do it again."

0:29:580:30:00

But you don't get that chance.

0:30:000:30:02

I'm going to ask you a question now, and give me an honest answer.

0:30:020:30:05

How many times in your life, if ever, I've got to say,

0:30:050:30:08

have you actually abused the parking and not got caught?

0:30:080:30:12

That's a tough one. All right, just generally speaking.

0:30:140:30:17

Well, it's like anything else, you try...

0:30:170:30:20

More than that or less than that? No, less than that. OK.

0:30:200:30:23

More than that or less than that? Probably just more.

0:30:230:30:25

OK. All right, you win some, you lose some.

0:30:250:30:28

You got your bottom smacked a little bit, but it could have been worse.

0:30:280:30:31

'So let this be a warning to all of you.

0:30:310:30:33

'Last year, local authorities in England

0:30:340:30:36

'forked out almost ?1 billion to

0:30:360:30:39

'clear litter from the country's streets.

0:30:390:30:41

'And the single most littered item?

0:30:410:30:43

'My pet hate, cigarette butts.

0:30:430:30:46

'The 31 billion fags that are smoked every year

0:30:460:30:48

'result in over 5,000 tonnes

0:30:480:30:51

'of waste, which take up to 12 years to biodegrade.'

0:30:510:30:55

Put cigarette butts in the proper place.

0:30:550:30:57

You see loads of them on the floor.

0:30:580:30:59

I don't smoke myself so I think it's awful.

0:31:010:31:04

There's plenty of litter bins around, but people

0:31:040:31:07

just don't use them, too lazy.

0:31:070:31:08

I believe people dropping cigarette butts as the same category as

0:31:080:31:12

litter dropping.

0:31:120:31:13

Most filter tips just degrade by themselves, don't they?

0:31:130:31:16

So if you're getting fined for a cigarette butt,

0:31:160:31:18

which is, quite frankly, a minute thing,

0:31:180:31:21

then that's just outrageous, isn't it?

0:31:210:31:25

'Actually, I think it's the fact that it takes 12 years

0:31:250:31:28

'for cigarette butts to biodegrade that's the outrageous bit.

0:31:280:31:31

'In Pendle...

0:31:340:31:35

'..environmental crime officer Jon Yurek

0:31:370:31:39

'has clocked on for a shift looking out for antisocial smokers.'

0:31:390:31:44

I'm in Nelson town centre now, dealing with

0:31:480:31:50

the offence of littering,

0:31:500:31:52

so I've just got my eyes on everyone as I can,

0:31:520:31:54

just making sure everyone puts their cigarette ends in the bins,

0:31:540:31:58

and if they don't, I will go and do my job.

0:31:580:32:00

'Jon can issue ?75 fixed-penalty notices

0:32:020:32:05

'smokers who drop their fag butts in the street.'

0:32:050:32:09

Here we go. One, two, three.

0:32:110:32:13

'What about her?

0:32:210:32:22

'OK, not this time.

0:32:240:32:26

'But Jon needs to keep his wits about him because fag-butt droppers

0:32:260:32:29

'come in all shapes and sizes.'

0:32:290:32:31

You can't pick and choose who you want to stop.

0:32:330:32:35

I can stop an old lady who's 96 years old,

0:32:350:32:37

probably been doing it her whole life.

0:32:370:32:39

That's how the game's played.

0:32:390:32:41

'And it's not long before Jon spots his first potential offender.

0:32:420:32:45

'It's a game of cat and mouse as Jon waits for his moment to pounce.'

0:32:470:32:51

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'Just as soon as that fag hits that floor,

0:32:530:32:56

'he's off like a bee-stung stallion.'

0:32:560:32:58

INDISTINCT MUTTERING

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All right, mate.

0:33:050:33:07

From Pendle Borough Council. Environmental crime officer.

0:33:070:33:10

You've just been stood out here with a cigarette and you just

0:33:100:33:13

threw it like a bowling ball. Yeah. OK.

0:33:130:33:14

You left the cigarette there and came in here.

0:33:140:33:16

That's a littering offence, mate.

0:33:160:33:18

'Will Jon get his notebook out?'

0:33:180:33:20

Unfortunately, because you've done it,

0:33:200:33:22

I've got to take some details off you.

0:33:220:33:24

'It looks like he's got this smoker bang to rights.'

0:33:240:33:26

What happens now is the council will write to you.

0:33:260:33:29

You may get issued with a fixed-penalty notice,

0:33:290:33:31

you might get a caution.

0:33:310:33:32

Thank you very much, sir.

0:33:320:33:34

'It's now down to the council whether to issue a caution

0:33:340:33:37

'or a fine.

0:33:370:33:38

'But that dropped cigarette

0:33:390:33:41

'could end up costing this lad a whopping ?75.'

0:33:410:33:44

'That could be Jon's first fag-butt fine of the day,

0:33:480:33:51

'and it looks like there's another one about to hit the deck.'

0:33:510:33:53

This guy with the tattoo on his arm,

0:33:530:33:55

he's only smoking but he could be legit,

0:33:550:33:58

he might put it in the bin or he might just throw it on the floor.

0:33:580:34:01

'But is Jon within his rights to swoop this time?'

0:34:020:34:05

Hmm.

0:34:080:34:09

So unless you can see the cigarette actually leave his hand...

0:34:110:34:14

I haven't seen him litter so...

0:34:140:34:17

I am going to have to let that one go.

0:34:180:34:19

'This guy lives to smoke another day.'

0:34:190:34:22

But there's plenty more of them,

0:34:220:34:23

so we'll go back to where we started.

0:34:230:34:26

'And with the lunchtime crowd now in full swing,

0:34:260:34:28

'it's not long before Jon spots the next potential offender.'

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SPAGHETTI WESTERN MUSIC PLAYS

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Hi, mate. Hiya.

0:34:350:34:36

From Pendle Borough Council.

0:34:360:34:38

You had a cigarette just then, a little roll-up cigarette.

0:34:380:34:41

Just before you met this gentleman, you threw it across there.

0:34:410:34:43

That is littering. 'Out comes the pad and pen.'

0:34:430:34:46

I'm going to take some details off you.

0:34:460:34:48

'But faced with the prospect of a ?75 fine,

0:34:480:34:51

'it seems this chap has completely forgotten his name and address.'

0:34:510:34:55

What's your postcode? You don't know your own postcode?

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'Jon has seen it all before.'

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He was a bit slow in giving his details.

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Sometimes what people do is they will think hard about themselves,

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they might have an alias, so I get them to repeat the question and I

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repeat the answer to them and then I ask them the question again.

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If they remember what they've said, the chances are they're not lying.

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'Temporary memory loss isn't fazing Jon.'

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What I will do with his details he's given me now is I will go back to

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my boss, we'll do a council-tax check,

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verify the information he's given me and if it is correct,

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then I shall have the senior environmental crime officer

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write to him,

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explain to him what will happen next with regards to a fine or a caution.

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'So, armed with at least some details,

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'could this be an expensive cigarette?'

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The fine for littering is ?75.

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But if you can't afford it,

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and you can provide financial circumstances like you are on

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benefits or something, you will be given a ten-week extension.

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'If it doesn't get paid,

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'then the man could receive a court summons and an even bigger fine

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'of up to ?2,500.

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'Two offenders down, and news of

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'Jon's anti-fag-butt patrol has filtered through the town.'

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Because I've been compromised, everyone's starting to look at me.

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I've done two people now in quick vicinities,

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so I'm going to leave and I will come back.

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I'm going to go back to the van now.

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'A productive morning for Jon, and for the unlucky two,

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'they now face a wait to see if it's a caution or a fine

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'that arrives in the post.

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'And I wouldn't mind betting they think twice next time they light up.

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'There are 2.5 million blue badges in use in the UK,

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'allowing people with severe mobility issues to park for free

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'in parking-restricted areas.

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'But a shocking one in five are misused.

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'In Eastbourne in East Sussex,

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'council investigating officer Mark Jobling

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'wants to stamp out the illegal use of blue badges

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'once and for all.'

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Give me an idea of how many blue badges have been issued in the area

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you cover.

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We cover East Sussex, which is quite a vast area,

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geographically-wise,

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and we've currently got 24,000 badges issued and current.

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Give me an idea of how many of those badges are misused.

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Currently, the Audit Commission says that approximately 20% of badges are

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misused, which will be one in five.

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And to those people who trivialise this, what would you say to them,

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what would be the message? I think if you listen to the genuine badge

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holders and the impact it has on them, I think that says it all,

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the impact on how it affects their daily lives, if they can't park.

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They are removing access to facilities

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for the people who can't, on a daily basis,

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access facilities like I or you can.

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'To show me what he means,

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'Mark and police colleague Lloyd take me to one of the town centre's

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'disabled bays.

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'But it's not long before Lloyd has spotted

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'a potential blue-badge offender.'

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She's a carer for a number of people.

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She's come to pick a lady up from

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the hearing centre around the corner.

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We popped round there, she's not there.

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'The carer says that she's heard the 90-year-old lady she is supposed

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'to be picking up is unwell and still at home.

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'But using the elderly lady's blue badge,

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'the carer has decided to park up and go to the bank.'

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So this is a sort of excuse you hear all the time, isn't it?

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Yes.

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'There's a chance this driver could end up in court being handed

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'a ?1,000 fine.'

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Often when you speak to carers,

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it's been a case of they've used the badge on a number of occasions,

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either through ignorance or lack of understanding.

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'So what is it going to be?

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'The evidence is pretty clear cut.

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'She's parking in a disabled bay using a blue badge that isn't hers.

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'But have her excuses convinced Mark?'

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You retain that badge.

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She has broken the rules.

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She shouldn't have been using that at all.

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She has. She's committed a offence by displaying the badge in order for

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herself to park. 'The driver is lucky.

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'Despite breaking the law, Mark has decided not to pursue a fine.

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'Instead, she'll be heading back to the classroom.

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'We've all heard of speed awareness courses,

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'but in East Sussex they do disability awareness courses.

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'And I'm joining in for the day.'

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From our point of view, we are trying to educate people,

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and we hope not to see these people again.

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And so far, out of all the resolutions we've done so far,

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which is up to about 100, we haven't had anybody return yet.

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That shows it's a success, doesn't it?

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'The purpose of this course is to show that parking illegally

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'in a disabled parking bay is not a victimless crime.'

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Everything takes stamina.

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Just a simple task of

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just getting dressed or having a shower.

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Having to move your body around is quite hard.

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People don't understand how stressful having a disability is.

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That is not what life's supposed to be about.

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It's supposed to be about experiencing new things, but I

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find that stressful.

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I would say if you understood what having a disability meant,

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you wouldn't want to use my blue badge because it's closer.

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You'd appreciate your legs and your ability to be able-bodied.

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I'd love to have legs that work but mine don't.

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'Well, that certainly hammers things home.

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'But what I want to know is - has it sunk in with our offenders?'

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OK, that's the message from the people that it affects.

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And that's why we do what we do.

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I just didn't think about it at the time.

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It was just quick in and out of the Post Office to get some money.

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And who did the badge belong to?

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The wife. Right, but she wasn't with you?

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Nope. Does she know that you were using it when she wasn't there?

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No, because it was the first time.

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How do you feel about the fact that you're here now in this?

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Yeah, I admitted the offence.

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You think this classroom is good?

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Yes. Yeah. Will you ever do it again?

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No. Supermarket car park, half empty, Monday afternoon,

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didn't give it a thought. I thought, "Oh, that's handy,

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"I'll just get nearer the door."

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I thought private property, not many other people round,

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loads of disabled bays, so I thought no harm done.

0:41:230:41:26

And has that video had an impact on you?

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Yeah, yeah.

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OK, how do you feel after seeing it?

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Um...

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Embarrassed and rather guilty, actually.

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'And for some, it's having the blue badge

0:41:360:41:38

'temporarily confiscated that has

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'really hit home.'

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Mark had to take the blue badge away...

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Yes. ..for a few days and I couldn't take my wife out.

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You'd robbed her of that privilege.

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Yeah. So that's what made me feel bad.

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Yeah. It affected the genuine person that could use it.

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I learnt my lesson.

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Yeah.

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Don't do it again. If you're embarrassed about what you've done,

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would you mind putting your hand up so we can get an idea of...

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Yeah. You've had your wake-up call, haven't you?

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You've been let off with a bit of a warning and, as you said,

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no-one's going to do it again, so I think obviously the class has been

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quite good in what it's teaching people, hasn't it? Yes.

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I was very impressed by everybody's reaction in there.

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They all said they'd never, ever do it again.

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They all seemed to have a reason why they did it.

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It was nearly always the same one,

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the fact that the badge was a legitimate badge

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belonging to a friend, family member or whoever,

0:42:350:42:37

but they thought they could use it themselves

0:42:370:42:39

and they knew it was wrong. But I think this is a great thing.

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The whole course took what? In total, 15 minutes.

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Everyone said it's the last time they'd be seen in there.

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As Mark said, no-one's ever been back twice.

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This whole lesson here is having a very, very good impact.

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Bye, cheers. Last one.

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That's all for today.

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