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'Never before have so many on-the-spot fines

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'been issued in Britain.

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'We're going to be following the men and women who hand out

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'over ?30 million worth of tickets every month...'

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Oops.

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Round here, they are an absolute blight.

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I'm up to 104 now. Wow!

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That is disgusting.

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Just walk away.

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'..for behaviour that's downright dangerous...'

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That was stupid for these sort of conditions, wasn't it?

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'..simply selfish...'

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Look at the mess you've created in the street.

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How's that our fault?

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'..or just...'

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What is he doing?

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'..well, plain silly.'

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What a doughnut.

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We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour.

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?100 fine.

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Pays ?260. Ouch!

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'And how this could affect you.'

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I'll give him a punch. Do you want to see me kick off?

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'The police are on it...'

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What the...? Sir!

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'..the parking wardens are on it...'

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They should be thanking us for being here.

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'..and I'm on it.'

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Careful, it's a 30mph limit here!

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'I'm Dom Littlewood,

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'and I'm on the spot.

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'This time, I'm on the spot...'

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That was a bit stupid of him, wasn't it?

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'..spotting the speeders.'

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What must be going through his mind right now? "Oops."

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'Just who is going to pay the penalty in Lancashire?'

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He had a sheet over his head and he emptied the bin there.

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'And one man fights his fine...'

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Do you not accept that that's your vehicle?

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'..at the traffic tribunal.'

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No.

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Have you ever driven over the speed limit,

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forgot to MOT your car or not bothered with your seatbelt?

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You might think it's harmless,

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but they're all criminal offences and if you don't play by the rules,

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the police can hit you with a hefty fine, or more.

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I'm riding shotgun with Sergeant Warren Knight.

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The weekend is nearly over, and for traffic cops that means one thing...

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..dangerous drivers.

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So, Warren, a slightly wet Sunday afternoon in Wiltshire.

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A damp one, yeah. A damp start which is typically not what was forecast.

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What's it now? So, it's 3.40 now,

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we're on with you most of the night, what are you likely to expect?

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The plan for tonight is to go up and join colleagues on the motorway.

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We usually find the M4,

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because there are people going back towards London,

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it gets quite busy,

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and we usually have quite a lot of late-evening collisions.

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But also, as the traffic thins out,

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we then get the people that have left it quite late

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and they'll start increasing their speeds.

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Would it be fair to say that the majority of the RTCs

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that you see now would be as a result of people speeding?

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They're not all for speeding.

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A lot of inattention is the main cause, I would say.

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A combination of inattention,

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inappropriate speed or inappropriate driving.

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So that could mean that they're distracted by mobile phones,

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they're distracted by talking.

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I think people's lives are so busy now,

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they're such in a rush that they just don't think ahead,

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they're just thinking about, "I've got to get home,

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"I've got to get the kids to bed,"

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or, "I've got to get ready for work,"

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so they're not focusing on the job in hand, which is driving.

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You must see some horrific things.

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I've been a traffic sergeant for ten years and

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I've seen a multitude of people that have died

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as a result of road traffic collisions.

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Do any of those scenes or sounds you might hear, anything at all,

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does that haunt you afterwards... Erm... ..or are you able to

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distance yourself from that?

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They do for a while and you just hope, in time, that your mind

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can process it in the right way.

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It's the job of these guys to try

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and eliminate road traffic collisions.

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One way to focus drivers on the rules of the road

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is an on-the-spot fine.

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We haven't even made it onto the motorway

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before getting caught up in a dangerous manoeuvre.

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I can understand their frustrations but that is partly some of our job.

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We are catching, erm...

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Just got to deal with this. Yep.

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The driver in front has just overtaken us at an excessive speed.

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He's going to regret that,

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especially if he ends up with a ?100 on-the-spot fine.

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That was a bit stupid of him, wasn't it? Well, the road's clear,

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it's just a question of his speed

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and whether his speed is appropriate.

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We're in a 60 limit. Whilst he's overtaken,

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he hasn't eased off.

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The speed's now 73mph

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and we'll just monitor his speed as we go round the bend.

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It's a question of whether he does reduce his speed or he carries on

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and that allows me to gauge how I might deal with it.

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Unfortunately for this bloke, he's still breaking the speed limit.

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The gap between us hasn't really changed

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and we're still doing 70mph in a 60.

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What's your instincts right now, what are you thinking?

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I think we'll have a word with him.

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Well, he's got no chance of overtaking that... No.

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He's going to be stuck now. So he hasn't really achieved a lot,

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because he's been stuck behind that car.

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But we'll get the driver and just have a quick chat with him.

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SIREN WAILS

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I reckon the penny must have dropped by now.

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What must be going through his mind right now? "Oops."

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He's probably thinking, "Am I going to get a fine for this?"

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Hiya. Afternoon. You all right? Yeah.

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Do you know why I've stopped you? Speeding, I'm guessing.

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Yeah, it is speeding.

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'This is pretty serious - there are kids in the back.'

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Do have any points on your licence at the moment?

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I don't think so, I can't remember. Do you have your licence on you?

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Lovely. Cor, your licence has seen better days, hasn't it? Yeah.

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All right, I'll just do some checks. Sit tight.

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'Sergeant Knight needs to check to see if there are

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'any other issues with this vehicle.

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'If so, the driver could be in line for more than one fine.'

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What's your name? Tom.

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Tom. OK, you obviously didn't realise you overtook us.

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Yeah, I realised it as soon as he put his lights on.

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Yeah. What did you think when that happened?

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I thought, "Not again."

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Not again?!

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I got stopped along this road about ten years ago.

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Right. By a very similar grey BMW. Yeah.

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Oscar 074, if you could do me the vehicle check first

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and then the DL.

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They say lightning doesn't strike twice,

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but I'd say it has for this fella -

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caught speeding AND whilst overtaking an unmarked police car.

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But is he going to get an on-the-spot fine?

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He could be facing ?100 and three points.

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It's the moment of truth.

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So, what will it be?

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All right.

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Right, just ease off your speed, all right?

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I apologise, I know. It's...you know...

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It was overtaking... I know,

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you were frustrated by the line of traffic.

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Yeah...

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In your defence, at least you didn't accelerate any more

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because I think if you had,

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you and me would be having a different conversation, all right?

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Just think about your kids and that. Yeah, I know, the children...

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Yeah, but, you know, try and enjoy the rest of the day.

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All right? Thank you very much. OK, good day to you. That's very kind.

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It's a slap on the wrists this time, no fine for this driver.

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He's let you off with a verbal warning, hasn't he? Yeah.

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Which I think is very nice of him. You're obviously relieved?

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I'm extremely relieved, yeah.

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Honest truth - will it change your driving? Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah. I think it's probably worth saying, isn't it, you know?

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Especially as you've got two young kids in the back. Yeah.

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It's foolish. Yeah, you know it, you said it yourself, didn't you?

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Absolutely. Well, I'm really, really pleased that you didn't end up

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getting a ticket because it would've been painful

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and, you know, a nasty Sunday for you, wouldn't it?

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Yeah, I'm very pleased myself. Tom, take care.

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Thank you, Dominic. Thanks.

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Warren, can I ask why you took the decision then

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not to issue a penalty notice?

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That's the good thing about doing the job we do,

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that we can use common sense.

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Yes. The chap hasn't accelerated away, he's shown some restraint,

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so he's done his overtake and he's been sensible.

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I think that is the balance for me.

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It's not about just giving tickets out. Yeah.

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Because it's important that people understand the risks and, yes,

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he's gone away with a positive attitude, he's gone away thinking...

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And his kids have also gone away with a positive attitude.

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They haven't seen Daddy get a ticket. Yeah.

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I'm a dad myself and, you know, he's had a good day with his kids.

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Yeah. He doesn't want a police officer spoiling it

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by giving him three points and a ?100 fine.

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I tell you what, he wants to go and buy himself a lottery ticket now,

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cos it's his lucky day, doesn't he?

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I would, I'd go and have a lucky dip right now.

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In Pendle, Lancashire,

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Lesley Brooks is an environmental crime officer

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with the local council.

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Her job is to investigate crimes like fly-tipping and littering,

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and hand out on-the-spot fines to the culprits.

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She's had a report from a concerned resident.

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We're going to an area in Nelson

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where there's a problem with waste in the back streets.

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I don't really know much about it.

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I've seen a photograph, it looks a mess,

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so we'll just see what it is when we get there.

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It looks like someone's just emptied their recycle bin.

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The bin vandal has created an eyesore

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and with rotting rubbish on the street,

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the vermin won't be far behind.

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It's up to Lesley to track down the culprit

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and whoever it is could face a ?400 fine.

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It could well have all been in that bin

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and someone else has taken it out.

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Because the bags aren't sealed, we can't...

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Whatever rubbish is here, we wouldn't be able to implicate them

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in regard to fly-tipping because we don't know where it's come from.

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I mean, if it comes from this property,

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they might have put the bags out,

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obviously they've put incorrect waste in that bin,

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because that's a recycle bin, as opposed to a proper bin.

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So I'm going to look where it's come from anyway.

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I'm presuming it's come from here

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and I'm going to give them a knock and ask them what's gone on.

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It's a bit of a mystery to Lesley, but a neighbour might be able

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to shed some light on who could be responsible.

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He had a sheet over his head and he emptied the bin there... Right, OK.

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..went through everything, took what he wanted... Right.

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..then moved down a street.

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When he got to the few bins down there,

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he started emptying the bins down there.

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Right, OK. And there was some scrap outside.

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Well, he decided to just put everything down

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that he'd taken from there and he picked up all the scrap

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and walked away with it. Right, OK. So do you know who this guy is?

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No. No, right. I think he's homeless. Why...?

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Then he came back...and then he came back shortly afterwards

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and collected everything that he'd collected from that bin

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and a few of the others, and took the rest of it away. Right, OK.

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But he'd emptied a few bins

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but the other neighbours cleaned up the mess that they came out to.

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How long's it been like that, then, do you know?

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Just since Monday night. Right, OK.

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What makes you think it's a homeless guy?

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Well, he may not be homeless

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but he's a down and out, no job, whatever.

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Right, thank you very much. Thank you.

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The sheet is down there, what he said, so maybe his story is true.

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I'm still going to knock on the door.

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The plot thickens.

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But however the mess was created,

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Lesley needs to make sure that it gets cleaned up.

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She's going to have a word with the resident of the house

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the bin belongs to.

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I'm an environmental crime officer for Pendle Borough Council.

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All through your back alley, have you seen...?

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No, you go... I'll see you at the other side.

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All right, thank you.

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I'm a bit... I don't know whether we've already got issues with her

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because if you look at the front garden, I didn't want to be...

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We might already be trying to get it a 215 because there's bin bags

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and mattresses in the front garden so...

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I'll just speak to her about this round the back.

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A section 215 order can be used by the council to make untidy residents

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clean up their mess or face a ?1,000 fine.

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But at the moment, Lesley is more concerned

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about the rubbish round the back.

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It was bin day yesterday, wasn't it?

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Yeah. The rubbish obviously is your rubbish.

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Erm...

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When did you put your bin bags out?

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It turns out the bin tipper isn't the only one at fault here.

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Sunday, right. But it's bin day on Tuesday.

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I'm led to believe that some homeless guy has come here

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with a sheet over his head and gone through all your rubbish,

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hence this mess.

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But what's caused that is the fact you've put your bins out too early.

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If you'd put your bins out on the correct day

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in the correct receptacle, then this would've been avoided.

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But you need to recycle as well. If that's your recycle bin...

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See, the stuff that's in there is not all recycling either.

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So you're going to have to sort that out, all right?

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So let's take a look at the facts of this case.

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An overturned bin in the back alley,

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a mystery hooded homeless person

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and unsorted rubbish put out on the wrong day.

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Is it going to be a fine and, if so, for who?

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The stuff here, some of it's recycling and it should be in there.

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You need to split it or you're going to end up fined for not doing that.

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It's no fine.

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Lesley is giving this woman a chance to sort out the mess.

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The mystery homeless guy gets another chance too.

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I know you're not responsible for this mess because I have a witness

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who's just told me about this guy in a sheet

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riffling through your rubbish,

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but if you'd put your bins out on the correct day,

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in the correct receptacle, then this would've been avoided.

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Erm, you're going to have...

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You're going to have to, er, clear it up,

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get some bin bags and get this mess cleared up, and put it back out.

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It's going to be a fortnight.

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All right? It will be double checked.

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You could end up with an order on you. Right, OK.

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Thank you. Thanks, bye.

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It seems this resident has got her work cut out.

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She'll now need to clean up this mess.

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If she doesn't, the council will do it for her and send her the bill.

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Now, I don't know about you,

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but round my way there are lots of different parking rules.

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Single yellows, double yellows, loading, no loading,

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you can't park here but you can park here,

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but only when there's an R in the month.

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It's all very confusing.

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So I'm in Havering on the spot

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with parking enforcement officer Kam

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for a masterclass in parking regulation basics.

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To combat the illegal parking,

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the council gave out 40,000 penalty notices last year.

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I really, really hope that is not a zigzag.

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Ridiculous, look at that.

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You're on the footway, boss. You're not allowed to be there.

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I'm moving. Thank you.

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And after two years on the beat,

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Kam has given out her fair share of fines of up to ?130 a pop

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and that doesn't make her very popular round here.

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In your job, you're never, ever going to have anybody to say to you,

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"Thanks for doing a good job.

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"You're keeping the streets safe and parking well..."

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No-one's ever going to say... It's very rare. How rare?

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It does happen, I'm not going to say that it's never happened.

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It has happened but in six years, I reckon, maybe five or six times.

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Once a year, it comes like Christmas and it goes like Christmas as well!

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In and out, gone. That's when people compliment you?

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Yeah. So... It will normally be after we've sort of...

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responded to a complaint for a dropped kerb... Yeah.

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..or a resident opposite a school, but it will come where we're needed.

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It's not long before Kam spots her first offender.

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That one's staring you in the face, isn't it? Yeah...

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'There's a delivery lorry banged to rights on double yellow lines.'

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So many people think that putting your hazards on

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means you can give them a ticket, doesn't it?

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Yeah. No, that doesn't help, it really doesn't.

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Let's see. No, the driver's gone as well.

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Nowhere to be seen.

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So a lorry parked on double yellow lines

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directly in front of a "no loading" sign.

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Not sure those hazard lights are going to get him out of a fine.

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And just as Kam's about to issue a ticket...

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Is that you?

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Boss, you can't park there. Come on, you know that.

0:16:330:16:36

Right.

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So what happens now?

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'An on-the-spot fine of ?130 could be on its way.'

0:16:420:16:46

Now he says he's just waiting to open the door.

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Sir, you can't wait here.

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Are you not able to just go into the loading bay and then wait there?

0:16:530:16:57

So it's his lucky day now, is it? He doesn't get a ticket?

0:16:570:16:59

Yes, very lucky day.

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The driver escapes without a fine.

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That's exactly what the kerb marks and everything mean.

0:17:040:17:06

No waiting, no loading.

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He's about a metre away from them...from the sign as well so...

0:17:090:17:12

When they say, "I'm just loading or I'm just waiting,"

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but that's exactly what you're not allowed to do here.

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Well, in fairness, there are two loading bays

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about 20 metres up there.

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Yeah, so I can understand if there's really no other alternative.

0:17:220:17:27

'The first fine of the day has been narrowly avoided,

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'all down to the compassion of Kam.

0:17:300:17:33

'Who said parking attendants couldn't be reasonable?

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'But this next car might not be so lucky.

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'It's parked on a single yellow line

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'where parking is restricted between 8.30 and 6.30.

0:17:420:17:46

'And guess what? It's just turned 8.30.

0:17:460:17:49

'This could be an on-the-spot ?130 fine.'

0:17:490:17:54

Where's the signs, then, that tells him...?

0:17:540:17:56

Whenever there's a yellow line, somewhere along the stretch...

0:17:560:17:59

If you see over there, that says,

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"Monday to Saturday 8.30am to 6.30pm." Ah, right, OK.

0:18:010:18:04

They have definitely not been misinformed.

0:18:040:18:07

So, Kam, just explain to me,

0:18:070:18:09

why is this person looking at possibly getting a ticket

0:18:090:18:11

and that one's not?

0:18:110:18:13

This one, you can obviously see

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that is has a disabled badge with a clock.

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Blue badge holders are actually entitled to park

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for up to three hours. OK.

0:18:200:18:21

Obviously, this one is a totally different case

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because it has nothing on display. So it is on a waiting restriction.

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Having said that, every vehicle does get its ten minutes grace now.

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So if... If they've nipped to the lavvy,

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they've got half a chance of not getting a ticket? Yep, basically.

0:18:330:18:36

Let's hope they come back within ten minutes.

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If this person's unlucky and gets a ticket in a minute,

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how much will it be? It will be 65, if it's paid within 14 days.

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130 if not. Yep. It's a lot of money, isn't it?

0:18:440:18:48

'So now we play the waiting game.'

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I sort of feel like I want to shout out

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or press a foghorn or something to warn the driver and say,

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"Come and collect your car, you've got ten minutes."

0:18:550:18:57

Well, probably about eight now.

0:18:570:18:59

That's not going to make someone's day, is it?

0:19:000:19:02

'Tick tock, the clock is ticking.'

0:19:020:19:04

If the driver does manage to come back within the next ten minutes,

0:19:040:19:06

we'll be all right. Unfortunately...

0:19:060:19:09

It's an awful lot of standing around. Yes. And walking. Yes.

0:19:090:19:13

Don't you fancy bringing a little Thermos flask along

0:19:130:19:15

and having a coffee and sitting down

0:19:150:19:16

and dunking your biscuit in it? It's a lot to carry as well.

0:19:160:19:19

I mean, during a day of patrolling,

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you can go through so many drinks and snacks,

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painkillers in case I get a headache,

0:19:240:19:26

you know, things like that. When you say get headaches,

0:19:260:19:28

is that because people are having a go at you? Yeah.

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Really? Definitely.

0:19:310:19:32

After a while, you do need to take a moment and think,

0:19:320:19:34

"Oh, my God, my head's hurting.

0:19:340:19:36

"I'm going to go and have a coffee and..."

0:19:360:19:37

There's someone coming down the street now.

0:19:370:19:39

I wonder if this is the guy. It might be.

0:19:390:19:42

He seems to be twiddling with his phone.

0:19:420:19:45

No. We get that a lot as well.

0:19:510:19:54

How much longer have they got? Got another...about 30 seconds.

0:19:540:19:57

Right, and then that's it, bish, bash, bosh.

0:19:570:19:59

Yep. Talk about the dosh.

0:19:590:20:01

SHE LAUGHS

0:20:010:20:03

'It's not looking good, the time is up.

0:20:030:20:06

'Surely this is an open-and-shut case.

0:20:060:20:08

'The car is parked up on a single yellow line,

0:20:080:20:11

'it's not displaying a blue badge,

0:20:110:20:13

'so there's no lawful reason for it to be there.

0:20:130:20:16

'Kam's given the driver ten minutes' grace

0:20:170:20:20

'but now they could be looking at a hefty fine of...

0:20:200:20:23

'you've guessed it, ?130.'

0:20:230:20:26

Well, in fairness, they had ten minutes' grace.

0:20:260:20:28

Yeah, so if the driver does come back, they can't say,

0:20:280:20:32

"Oh, you've given me a ticket as soon as enforcement starts,"

0:20:320:20:35

because enforcement starts at half past eight,

0:20:350:20:38

we've obviously been here for ten minutes now so

0:20:380:20:40

I would be very annoyed if the driver came back

0:20:400:20:43

and gave me abuse and said, "I've only been here two minutes."

0:20:430:20:45

'Yep, it's a fine - a painful 130 smackers.'

0:20:450:20:50

First one of the day, yeah? Yep.

0:20:520:20:55

'Now Kam's heading off to her next hot spot in the centre of town,

0:20:550:20:59

'where drivers have to pay and display.'

0:20:590:21:01

Romford High Street, not market day

0:21:040:21:06

cos they have market day here I think three times a week,

0:21:060:21:08

which means that this whole street normally would be full of stalls.

0:21:080:21:12

But now it's used as a car park.

0:21:120:21:13

So what Kam's doing, she's going round,

0:21:130:21:15

she's checking if people have bought a ticket.

0:21:150:21:17

If they haven't, they've got about ten minutes', or so, grace.

0:21:170:21:20

What she's doing now is, she's going round,

0:21:200:21:22

she's logging the cars that don't have tickets showing, walking round.

0:21:220:21:26

By the time they come back, if they haven't got one,

0:21:260:21:29

that's it, ticket time. It's all going quite well, actually.

0:21:290:21:31

So far we've been up and down the high street a couple of times

0:21:310:21:34

and not one ticket issued. A good day for the motorists.

0:21:340:21:37

A good day for Kam, really - less paperwork.

0:21:370:21:40

Are you all right there, mam?

0:21:400:21:42

OK.

0:21:440:21:45

This car's driver has left the car,

0:21:460:21:49

but claims her husband has gone to get a ticket.

0:21:490:21:52

If he doesn't come back with one in ten minutes,

0:21:520:21:54

she could be the proud recipient of a ?130 fine.

0:21:540:21:59

You've just put that vehicle under observation, yeah? Mm-hm.

0:21:590:22:01

Explain to me exactly what's going to happen now, then.

0:22:010:22:04

I'm going to go back and check whatever other vehicles

0:22:040:22:06

I've logged in this car park, because it is a big car park.

0:22:060:22:09

I think I've logged about five, six vehicles.

0:22:090:22:11

By the time we come back,

0:22:110:22:13

her observation will be up as well and then obviously if she's...

0:22:130:22:16

She'll either have bought a ticket or we'll move her on.

0:22:160:22:19

If neither happens, then we'll give her a ticket.

0:22:190:22:21

Kam checks out other vehicles while giving the woman her grace period.

0:22:240:22:28

But when Kam returns,

0:22:280:22:30

the women's husband is in the driving seat but still no ticket.

0:22:300:22:34

In fact, now he claims his wife has gone for the ticket.

0:22:340:22:38

Hey there, sir, do you have a ticket?

0:22:390:22:41

All right because...

0:22:440:22:45

I'm sure it's the same vehicle.

0:22:450:22:47

Yeah, I logged this vehicle 15 minutes ago, sir, and...

0:22:490:22:53

Right, she said that you were gone to get a ticket.

0:22:530:22:55

Can you not have a go at me?

0:22:550:22:57

I logged you 15 minutes ago and now you're back,

0:22:570:22:59

now you're back and now you're telling me she's getting the ticket.

0:22:590:23:01

Could you go and get a ticket please, sir? OK. Yeah?

0:23:010:23:03

You've been here for 15 minutes and now you're having a go at me.

0:23:030:23:07

You just... You were about to have a go at me

0:23:080:23:10

until I made it very clear to you that you've already had 15 minutes.

0:23:100:23:13

It's 9.20 now.

0:23:130:23:15

You were logged at 9.05 and at that time, the lady who was sitting here

0:23:150:23:19

said to me that you had gone to get a ticket.

0:23:190:23:22

That is really annoying because he's tried having a go at me,

0:23:220:23:25

claiming that, "Yeah, I'm waiting for her to go and get a ticket."

0:23:250:23:27

But, I'm sorry, 15 minutes ago,

0:23:270:23:29

YOU were going to get the ticket and she was in the driver's seat.

0:23:290:23:32

So don't lie to me and don't raise your voice to me.

0:23:320:23:34

That is just disgusting.

0:23:340:23:36

It looks like this guy's pushing his luck.

0:23:360:23:38

Kam is within her rights to slap a ?130 fine on his windscreen.

0:23:380:23:43

It's not looking good for him.

0:23:430:23:44

This driver has been sat in the car park

0:23:450:23:48

without a ticket for 15 minutes.

0:23:480:23:50

He claims his partner has gone to get change

0:23:500:23:53

but that story is rapidly wearing thin with Kam.

0:23:530:23:56

So will she give him an instant fine or let him off with a warning?

0:23:560:24:00

Right, can you go and get a ticket, sir?

0:24:000:24:02

Right, clearly there is no ticket process here.

0:24:030:24:08

They're not getting change because

0:24:080:24:10

he just told me she was going to get a ticket

0:24:100:24:12

and now he's just jumped out with a note saying I need to get change

0:24:120:24:15

and that's after 15 minutes of an observation.

0:24:150:24:18

I'm very tempted to just tell him...

0:24:180:24:19

Give me a minute? No, I can't give you a minute.

0:24:190:24:21

You're either going to drive off or you're going to get a ticket, sir.

0:24:210:24:24

You've had about 17 minutes now.

0:24:240:24:27

'He's chosen to leave the car park.

0:24:270:24:29

'Another driver escapes a fine, but Kam's not happy.'

0:24:320:24:37

See, that has really annoyed me now.

0:24:370:24:39

Clearly, neither of them have any intention of buying a ticket.

0:24:390:24:41

So if that's really annoyed you and he's well over his stay,

0:24:410:24:44

why didn't you issue a ticket?

0:24:440:24:46

Because, erm...

0:24:460:24:48

A, it would've just escalated the situation.

0:24:480:24:50

If he had refused to move on,

0:24:500:24:52

then I would've given him a ticket straight away.

0:24:520:24:55

But, to be honest, like I said,

0:24:550:24:56

the ticket is supposed to be the last resort.

0:24:560:24:58

If I had given him a ticket,

0:24:580:24:59

it would've purely been because I've let my annoyance get to me.

0:24:590:25:02

We don't do the job personally.

0:25:020:25:04

Personally, I would've loved to have given him a ticket.

0:25:040:25:07

I think he deserved it...

0:25:070:25:08

because was just taking the mick.

0:25:080:25:10

After a morning on patrol,

0:25:120:25:14

Kam's hot under the collar and I'm hot on top.

0:25:140:25:18

One of the hazards of the job.

0:25:180:25:20

I don't want to end up going home looking like a Swan Vesta match.

0:25:200:25:23

I've put too much on now, haven't I? Yeah, you have. Good Lord!

0:25:230:25:26

Do you want some of this? No, not off the top of your head, no!

0:25:260:25:29

Oh. Nothing wrong with the top of my head.

0:25:290:25:32

'It's for your own good, Kam.

0:25:320:25:33

'If I burn my bonce, you'll never hear the end of it.'

0:25:330:25:35

Nothing quite ruins your day like an ominous brown envelope

0:25:390:25:42

arriving through the post with a hefty fine in it.

0:25:420:25:45

Now, you might think that's the end of it and you've got to pay.

0:25:450:25:48

But you'd be wrong. You might be in with a chance to appeal.

0:25:480:25:52

We've been fined for things like going in bus lanes

0:25:550:25:58

without realising it in a place that we don't know.

0:25:580:26:01

It's the modern life we live in - everybody has got no time,

0:26:010:26:04

everybody is in a rush.

0:26:040:26:06

"I'll park here. I'll only be away five minutes."

0:26:060:26:10

They are there probably for half an hour.

0:26:100:26:13

I had a situation where I parked my car in a private housing area

0:26:130:26:16

next to a shop and the sign was facing that way

0:26:160:26:19

and I parked on the other side of it.

0:26:190:26:21

So when I got out, ten minutes in the shop

0:26:210:26:23

and I got a ticket. I was fuming.

0:26:230:26:25

SIREN WAILS

0:26:250:26:26

Well, all is not lost.

0:26:270:26:30

Londoners who dispute their driving and parking fines

0:26:300:26:33

can get their case heard

0:26:330:26:35

at the London Tribunals at Chancery Exchange.

0:26:350:26:38

I'm here today because I received a penalty fine outside my home.

0:26:410:26:45

I took my nephew to the toilet.

0:26:450:26:47

When I came back, I got a ticket.

0:26:470:26:48

It was an emergency situation.

0:26:480:26:50

They should have understood this kind of thing.

0:26:500:26:52

It's probably the fifth time I have been here in the last 12 years

0:26:520:26:55

and on the previous four occasions, I was successful.

0:26:550:26:58

'Today, I've been granted special access

0:27:000:27:03

'to sit in with serial appealer Narinder Marwah's tribunal.

0:27:030:27:06

'He's fighting a ?65 penalty

0:27:060:27:09

'for apparently stopping in a box junction.'

0:27:090:27:12

Why do you feel you've got a case here?

0:27:120:27:14

What happened?

0:27:140:27:15

Actually, Enfield Council,

0:27:150:27:18

they are alleging that I stopped at a box junction,

0:27:180:27:22

whereas I shouldn't have.

0:27:220:27:26

But I think the rules do allow you to stop in a junction

0:27:260:27:33

if you are obstructed by oncoming traffic.

0:27:330:27:35

So even if that was my car, that is what happened to me.

0:27:350:27:39

Give me an idea. How do you feel

0:27:390:27:40

your chances will be with the appeal?

0:27:400:27:42

I have appealed in the last year or so and maybe six times I appealed,

0:27:420:27:50

I won it five times. Really? Yeah.

0:27:500:27:52

As a rule of thumb, would you appeal every single time?

0:27:520:27:55

No, not necessarily.

0:27:550:27:56

If I very clearly see that I was in the wrong, I will pay

0:27:560:28:01

and I have paid.

0:28:010:28:04

My sons have paid, my wife has paid.

0:28:040:28:06

I have advised them to pay.

0:28:060:28:08

If you are clearly in violation of the law, you must pay.

0:28:080:28:11

So you are not just trying to get away with it?

0:28:110:28:13

Of course not. You generally feel you've got a case to answer?

0:28:130:28:16

You will take the time?

0:28:160:28:17

OK, well, we'll be listening in on the case

0:28:170:28:19

so we'll see how you get on.

0:28:190:28:21

I'll have a quick chat with you afterwards.

0:28:210:28:22

Thank you very much. Thank you.

0:28:220:28:24

'So, Narinder might be a dab hand at this,

0:28:240:28:27

'but there is a lot of money at stake.

0:28:270:28:29

'If he loses, his original ?65 fine doubles.'

0:28:290:28:33

Come in, sir, come and have a seat.

0:28:330:28:35

'Making the call is adjudicator Caroline Hamilton.'

0:28:350:28:39

In this case, the enforcement authority,

0:28:390:28:41

the London Borough of Enfield,

0:28:410:28:42

are contesting your appeal.

0:28:420:28:44

They haven't sent a representative to the hearing,

0:28:440:28:47

but they have submitted evidence and they do want to pursue the matter.

0:28:470:28:50

What they are alleging is that on 25th February 2016,

0:28:510:28:56

6.29 in the evening,

0:28:560:28:59

your vehicle was seen entering and stopping in a box junction.

0:28:590:29:02

'The council have sent photo and video evidence

0:29:020:29:05

'that they say clearly shows

0:29:050:29:07

'Narinder's vehicle in the box junction.

0:29:070:29:09

'We can't show the video, but it's OK,

0:29:090:29:12

'Caroline's pretty clear what happened.'

0:29:120:29:14

Once your vehicle comes to a halt,

0:29:140:29:16

you're in contravention because you didn't leave the box.

0:29:160:29:19

You're trapped in the box.

0:29:190:29:20

The reason that that box is there is to keep the junction clear.

0:29:200:29:24

Essentially, the regulation is this -

0:29:240:29:26

you mustn't enter the junction

0:29:260:29:28

until you can see that there's a space for you to leave.

0:29:280:29:31

If you do enter the junction before your space is there,

0:29:310:29:34

you're taking a risk.

0:29:340:29:36

'Narinder doesn't deny that there is a vehicle within the box junction.

0:29:360:29:41

'It's just a question of whose car it is.'

0:29:410:29:44

I don't think that the car they are alleging to have done the violation

0:29:450:29:49

was my car. Can you just tell me this?

0:29:490:29:51

Do you not accept that that is your vehicle?

0:29:510:29:54

No. You don't accept it's your vehicle? No.

0:29:540:29:56

Yes, I was there.

0:29:580:30:00

Just pause. You were there?

0:30:000:30:02

You were there on that occasion?

0:30:020:30:04

Yes, I was on the road.

0:30:040:30:06

What you are saying is you are putting them to strict proof

0:30:060:30:08

to show that that vehicle was your vehicle?

0:30:080:30:12

'I'm no expert, but Caroline is,

0:30:120:30:14

'and she's spotted a flaw in Narinder's explanation.'

0:30:140:30:17

What the council are saying is that this is the registration number.

0:30:170:30:23

I'm not denying that. Do you accept

0:30:230:30:25

that that is your vehicle's registration number?

0:30:250:30:27

Yes. So, what you are saying is that the camera that took it

0:30:270:30:31

could have taken it from that vehicle.

0:30:310:30:33

Of course. But that vehicle and that vehicle

0:30:330:30:35

are completely different types of car, are they not?

0:30:350:30:37

'But serial appealer Narinder doesn't think so.'

0:30:390:30:43

They both have this light in the middle.

0:30:430:30:46

From the back, they look identical, yeah.

0:30:460:30:49

So, your case is that this car and that car

0:30:490:30:51

look identical from the back.

0:30:510:30:53

Yes.

0:30:530:30:54

'It feels like stalemate to me.

0:30:560:30:58

'So, there is clearly a vehicle in a box junction

0:31:000:31:03

'but Narinder doesn't believe it to be his.'

0:31:030:31:05

'Caroline has to make a decision.'

0:31:070:31:09

All right, thank you very much, Mr Marwah.

0:31:130:31:15

I am not going to allow your appeal.

0:31:150:31:17

I am satisfied that the vehicle that was filmed

0:31:170:31:19

by the CCTV camera enforcement crew was your vehicle.

0:31:190:31:22

I think you know it was your vehicle.

0:31:220:31:24

What happens now, sir, is that

0:31:260:31:28

I am going to set out in writing why I have reached this decision.

0:31:280:31:30

Essentially, it's because I'm satisfied

0:31:300:31:33

that a contravention did occur.

0:31:330:31:36

'It's not Narinder's day.'

0:31:360:31:37

The penalty amount that is due is ?130.

0:31:390:31:43

'But he's not giving up.'

0:31:430:31:45

From the photograph, it doesn't show that it is my car.

0:31:450:31:48

I understand, sir, that that's your case.

0:31:480:31:50

I don't agree with you.

0:31:500:31:51

'Nice try, Narinder, but Caroline's having none of it.

0:31:520:31:55

'And now it's going to cost him.

0:31:550:31:57

'For Narinder, that's a ?130 fine.'

0:31:570:32:00

So, Narinder, unsuccessful.

0:32:050:32:07

Yes. How are you feeling?

0:32:070:32:09

I am not feeling very happy.

0:32:090:32:11

But I think... I still hold the view

0:32:110:32:14

that the photograph sent by the council

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did not conclusively prove that it was my car.

0:32:180:32:21

If I can be honest, I was sitting in the background

0:32:210:32:23

and I was being fairly silent.

0:32:230:32:25

I felt watching the footage then, I felt that your argument -

0:32:250:32:29

and this is my personal opinion, of course - it wasn't a strong one.

0:32:290:32:32

I felt the decision was quite fair.

0:32:320:32:34

Yes, I still hold the view

0:32:340:32:36

that it cannot be said with 100% certainty that it was my car.

0:32:360:32:41

If you take it as an overall picture now,

0:32:410:32:43

this is your sixth appeal

0:32:430:32:45

and it is only the second time your appeal hasn't been upheld.

0:32:450:32:49

So, generally speaking, you definitely come off better off

0:32:490:32:51

by appealing every time, haven't you?

0:32:510:32:53

Yes, of course.

0:32:530:32:54

Are you happy to accept it now and that's the end of it?

0:32:540:32:57

No, I'll see what I can do about it.

0:32:580:33:01

So you might fight this further? I might. OK. Thanks, Narinder.

0:33:010:33:05

It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

0:33:050:33:06

'It's not a good day for Narinder.'

0:33:060:33:08

But the same can't be said for everyone.

0:33:080:33:10

Almost half of the appeals that are heard here

0:33:100:33:13

are, in fact, successful.

0:33:130:33:15

So, basically, the adjudicator said she has to cancel the ticket.

0:33:150:33:19

Coming here today has gone very smoothly.

0:33:200:33:24

I put my point across.

0:33:240:33:26

I got the answer that I wanted

0:33:260:33:28

and obviously waiting for a letter to confirm that.

0:33:280:33:30

Caroline, you're the chief adjudicator here.

0:33:320:33:33

Do most people leave here, regardless of the results,

0:33:330:33:36

content that they've had the chance to actually speak their mind?

0:33:360:33:39

Obviously I hope, as a tribunal, is that once you come here,

0:33:390:33:42

whether your outcome is a refusal or an allow, you leave here,

0:33:420:33:45

as you've said, contented

0:33:450:33:47

and with perhaps a better understanding

0:33:470:33:49

of why it is the ticket was issued in the first place.

0:33:490:33:51

Unfortunately, of course, there are people who are not happy

0:33:510:33:56

and they will never be happy.

0:33:560:33:58

But that is not something that the adjudicators can change,

0:33:580:34:01

that does happen.

0:34:010:34:02

That's life, isn't it? It is life, yeah.

0:34:020:34:04

In Lincolnshire,

0:34:120:34:14

the beautiful countryside and leafy lanes

0:34:140:34:18

have become a haven for fly-tippers.

0:34:180:34:20

And one man is waging a war on waste

0:34:210:34:24

and those unscrupulous tippers.

0:34:240:34:26

Steve Clegg is a district councillor.

0:34:260:34:29

I'd say that's probably a commercial waste dump.

0:34:290:34:31

My concern there is that it's so close to this main road,

0:34:310:34:35

the A17, that, really, it causes a hazard.

0:34:350:34:39

Not only is it unsightly,

0:34:390:34:41

but it could cause a hazard to the traffic as well.

0:34:410:34:43

So it's a safety concern.

0:34:430:34:45

Anyone caught fly-tipping could be looking at a fine of up to ?50,000

0:34:490:34:54

and even a jail term

0:34:540:34:55

and there's no shortage of tip-offs from the public

0:34:550:34:58

to help Councillor Clegg track them down.

0:34:580:35:00

Oh, you've got fly-tipping down your fen?

0:35:010:35:04

Would I be able to have a look at it today?

0:35:040:35:07

Thanks for the call and we'll see you later.

0:35:070:35:09

Bye.

0:35:090:35:11

With 900,000 incidents a year in England alone,

0:35:110:35:16

fly-tipping has become a country-wide epidemic.

0:35:160:35:18

And Steve has come out to visit James Bourne,

0:35:210:35:23

a local farmer who has been the victim of a fly-tip.

0:35:230:35:26

Hiya, James. Nice to see you again. You all right?

0:35:310:35:35

So, where is it happening, then?

0:35:350:35:37

It's just over here.

0:35:370:35:40

Because the grass is grown, you can't see it.

0:35:400:35:42

Oh, right.

0:35:420:35:43

Oh, my word!

0:35:460:35:47

Someone has fly-tipped a load of waste off the highway,

0:35:520:35:55

which could contain any number of contaminants.

0:35:550:35:59

Without going through it... I don't want to get my hands in it.

0:35:590:36:02

You don't know what's there, do you? You wouldn't want to take the risk.

0:36:020:36:06

To make matters worse, the tip could already be affecting

0:36:060:36:09

the water supply to the farmer's land.

0:36:090:36:12

That's the main drain, you see, that runs along there from Digby.

0:36:120:36:15

Oh, my word. It's going to slip down into the dyke.

0:36:150:36:18

It could seriously pollute

0:36:180:36:19

and that's going to go and wash its way into Digby. That's right, yes.

0:36:190:36:22

This waste should have gone to the local tip,

0:36:220:36:25

but it seems whoever dumped it

0:36:250:36:27

just wanted to avoid the drive and a ?20 charge.

0:36:270:36:31

It's just another example of selfish, lazy behaviour.

0:36:310:36:34

It beggars belief that people would go to the effort of coming here.

0:36:340:36:37

Council cutbacks have seen two local waste sites shut down recently.

0:36:400:36:44

20,000 vehicles a year used to come to this one alone.

0:36:440:36:49

But having to travel a bit further to dump waste

0:36:490:36:51

is no excuse for fly-tipping.

0:36:510:36:54

It's not long before Steve gets another tip-off.

0:36:570:37:00

Oh, my word.

0:37:000:37:01

And, even for him, this one is a shock.

0:37:010:37:04

Absolutely astounding.

0:37:040:37:07

It's blocking a whole road.

0:37:070:37:08

Oh, my gosh!

0:37:120:37:14

It's been tipped right across the roadway.

0:37:160:37:18

Not only is this massive fly-tip blocking a road,

0:37:200:37:24

there's an even bigger problem for Steve.

0:37:240:37:26

He's spotted some potentially deadly waste.

0:37:260:37:29

You've got asbestos.

0:37:290:37:31

We're going to need to get specialist contractors in

0:37:310:37:33

to remove this stuff, cos it is so hazardous.

0:37:330:37:36

This is a really substantial expense for the council now

0:37:360:37:40

because somebody has decided to dump it here,

0:37:400:37:43

rather than dealing with it properly.

0:37:430:37:45

It's almost as if somebody's shed is here,

0:37:450:37:48

with the asbestos or garage.

0:37:480:37:51

Yeah, it's an old garage or something.

0:37:510:37:53

This is serious.

0:37:530:37:55

If Steve can find evidence of who is responsible for this pile,

0:37:550:37:59

they could be facing a huge fine and time in jail.

0:37:590:38:02

Yeah, more speakers. Somebody who likes their music, I would think.

0:38:020:38:05

Seven tyres, eight tyres.

0:38:060:38:08

And more in here. And more in there.

0:38:080:38:10

Oh, my word!

0:38:120:38:13

Oh, God...

0:38:130:38:15

This is incredible!

0:38:160:38:18

So, this is obviously an expense that someone saved themselves

0:38:180:38:21

by just dumping it here and saying, "Thank you very much."

0:38:210:38:24

You and I can pay for it instead.

0:38:240:38:27

Removing and disposing of asbestos is an expensive business.

0:38:280:38:32

Sadly, it looks like the perpetrator has covered their tracks.

0:38:320:38:35

I doubt there's going to be any evidence in here.

0:38:370:38:39

You don't know, but it doesn't look to be if anything is going to be

0:38:390:38:43

retrievable that could track it down to who's actually tipped it.

0:38:430:38:47

With nothing to identify the culprits,

0:38:470:38:50

it's looking like the council will have to foot the entire bill

0:38:500:38:53

to remove this lot.

0:38:530:38:55

It's not quite as simple

0:38:550:38:56

as perhaps some of the other things we've seen.

0:38:560:38:59

They'll need to get contractors in who can remove the materials safely.

0:38:590:39:05

It's dangerous, it's totally inconsiderate.

0:39:070:39:10

It's unbelievable.

0:39:100:39:13

It might be frustrating,

0:39:130:39:15

but for Steve and his colleagues at Lincolnshire County Council,

0:39:150:39:18

the fight against fly-tippers will go on.

0:39:180:39:21

In Wiltshire,

0:39:280:39:30

traffic cop Jay Clifton is on patrol.

0:39:300:39:33

He's stationed on a raised police ramp on the side of the busy M4.

0:39:340:39:38

It's an observation platform,

0:39:390:39:41

so from here we can carry out speed checks,

0:39:410:39:44

I can look at vehicles, I can see the drivers.

0:39:440:39:46

So I can see if people are wearing their seatbelts,

0:39:460:39:48

I can see if the vehicle's...

0:39:480:39:50

or get an idea if a vehicle is overweight.

0:39:500:39:51

It's a good place to sit up and watch the world go by, really.

0:39:530:39:55

Today, he's on the lookout for speeding motorists.

0:39:550:39:59

If he catches any, he can issue them with a ?100 on-the-spot fine

0:39:590:40:05

or even a court summons.

0:40:050:40:06

And it's not long before he spots what he's looking for.

0:40:060:40:09

That'll do. We'll have him.

0:40:090:40:11

So this driver was clocked at 97mph,

0:40:190:40:22

but maybe he's finally spotted the cop car in his rear-view mirror.

0:40:220:40:26

Slowed down a lot now.

0:40:280:40:30

What I'm going to do is take the vehicle off the motorway

0:40:320:40:35

and have a chat with the driver in relation to his speed.

0:40:350:40:38

Just get in front of him and use the "follow me".

0:40:420:40:45

Well, that got the driver's attention.

0:40:450:40:48

Could he be about to get a hefty fine?

0:40:480:40:51

I need to have a quick chat with you about your speed.

0:40:510:40:53

I can see you were travelling faster than the other vehicles

0:40:530:40:56

on the carriageway and so I formulated the opinion

0:40:560:40:58

that you were travelling in excess of the 70mph speed limit

0:40:580:41:00

for the motorway. Inside here is a little red dot,

0:41:000:41:02

I put it on the front of your car, pulled the trigger,

0:41:020:41:05

lasers out at one end to the other,

0:41:050:41:06

at which point it tells me that -

0:41:060:41:07

that you were doing 97mph and that you were 502.6 metres away from me.

0:41:070:41:12

Is there any lawful reason you can give me

0:41:120:41:14

as to why you are travelling at the speed today?

0:41:140:41:17

He's in Exeter?

0:41:220:41:23

It's about 100 miles to Exeter!

0:41:230:41:26

That's a lot of miles at a dangerous speed.

0:41:260:41:28

Do you think you were going to drive all the way to Exeter at that speed?

0:41:280:41:31

It's a bit much, isn't it?

0:41:330:41:36

The problem is, I've never met you before.

0:41:360:41:38

I can't validate that story at the moment, can I?

0:41:390:41:41

I can obviously make a few calls if I need to. It's the truth.

0:41:410:41:45

But if you've got to get to Exeter,

0:41:460:41:48

you want to get there and see your dad.

0:41:480:41:51

What you don't want to do is hit another car at that speed

0:41:510:41:54

and end up killing somebody else. No, I agree with you.

0:41:540:41:57

Do you have your licence with you at all?

0:41:570:42:00

Take a seat there for me. I'm just going to shut these doors

0:42:000:42:03

so we can have a chat.

0:42:030:42:04

Let's take a look at Jay's options here.

0:42:100:42:13

The man was definitely speeding and, at 97mph,

0:42:130:42:17

Jay does have the option to issue the man with a court summons,

0:42:170:42:20

meaning he could lose his licence.

0:42:200:42:22

But he claims he was on the way to hospital in an emergency.

0:42:220:42:27

On this occasion, I'm probably going to take it in the ear for it...

0:42:270:42:32

His story checks out and Jay has decided

0:42:320:42:34

to give him the benefit of the doubt.

0:42:340:42:37

On this occasion, I'm going to let you go

0:42:370:42:39

and that's just me showing a bit of compassion,

0:42:390:42:41

but I need you to be honest with me and make sure you get there safely.

0:42:410:42:45

Do you understand that?

0:42:450:42:46

So there's no fine for this driver - just a firm warning.

0:42:490:42:54

Something tells me the rest of his journey will be at a sensible 70mph.

0:42:550:43:00

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it.

0:43:000:43:03

Join us next time for Dom On The Spot.

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