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Never before have so many on-the-spot fines been issued in Britain. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
-You're about to fine me, I don't have any money today. -Come here. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
We are going to be following the men and women who hand out | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
over £30 million worth of tickets every month. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Look! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
That gets my goat. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
My jaw is dropping. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
For behaviour that's downright dangerous... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
..simply selfish... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
-It's been defrosted a while, that, hasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
..or just, well, plain silly. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Get off your phone! Doughnut! | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
How much is a fine on this one? | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
-£100 for no seat belts. It's expensive. -I know, yeah. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
..and how this could affect you. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm in the middle of a job. I'm working. I'm a builder. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
The police are on it... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
Out your mouth, now. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
..the parking wardens are on it... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
So once it's printed, that's it? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
There's no point in arguing the point. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
..and I'm on it. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Put your seat belt on! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
Cheeky monkeys! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
I'm Dom Littlewood, and I'm On The Spot. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Today... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
Attention. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Uh-oh! | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
..there's a computer-aided crackdown on car tax evaders. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
-It's like Bill Gates' bedroom here, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
In Cardiff... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
It's all cannabis plants. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
..it could be HIGH noon for some freaky fly-tippers. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
We come across this regular - probably four or five times a week. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
And speeders beware, because things can get hairy up on Dartmoor. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
They've called us WOMBLES, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
which is Working On Moor Because Locals Exceed Speed. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
We all moan about the train service, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
the price of the tickets and the reliability of it. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
But let me tell you, they've got a very good reason | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
to moan about us, the paying customer. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Because we defraud them out of £200 million a year by not buying tickets. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
What would be your opinion of somebody who deliberately didn't pay for a fare on a train? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Would you find that annoying, would it worry you, or are you not bothered? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
It's annoying because it pushes the prices up. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
The rules say you should have a ticket, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
and everyone should have a ticket. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
Why should someone else not have? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
-Sometimes I do that! -Naughty, naughty! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Today, I'm heading to Birmingham. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
I'm joining up with the revenue protection team | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
of the London Midland franchise | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
to find out just how many of | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
their more than 70 million passengers a year | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
ARE paying their way. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
This is known in the business as a blockade. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
They've picked one busy station and they're going to block all the exits | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
and check every single ticket. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Exciting stuff, and it looks like we are going in mob-handed. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
It's like an army. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
We'll be positioning ourselves at Selly Oak Station in Birmingham. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
It's close to the university, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
so it's a line popular with students. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
So we might be seeing lots of young faces today, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
assuming they can get out of bed in time. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
In charge today is revenue protection manager Mike. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
I take it you're a student and this is your home address, yes? | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
And he looks like he's got all bases covered before the first train arrives. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
From the next train coming in, anybody that's getting off a train, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
whether they try to go over there or out this way, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
-they will have their ticket inspected? -They'll need to have a ticket. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-There's no way of escaping you guys, is there? -Other than over the fence, which isn't unusual either. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
It's a bit Tom Jones, is it? Not unusual. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Boom, boom! | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
No time for jokes, we're off. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Right, you've got about eight carriages here. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
I wonder how many people are going to be on this train who haven't bought a ticket. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Tickets, passes and railcards, please. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Thank you, sir. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
-Tickets, keep coming. -Thank you very much. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
I tell you what, pretty fair, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
there's not one person who's got off the train | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
who's not having everything inspected. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
-Everything's being checked. -Thank you. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Two lots of fines have been issued at the same time. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
We're going to issue the penalty fare. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
You get 21 days to pay or appeal, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
or you can pay now if you really want to. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
I'm going to ask you to just fill out some details in my notebook. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
That's the first penalty fare of the day, £20, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
and it looks like it's not going to be the last. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
I think the fine pad is about to come out again. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
This lady has a ticket, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
but not the Railcard that's supposed to go with it. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
So how does that affect things? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Basically it's a condition of the Railcard | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
that you carry it with you at the time of travelling. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
So obviously you get a cheaper fare with a Railcard. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
It's a £20 penalty. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Fortunately, she can appeal it if she can provide | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
proof that she has the right Railcard. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
No such things as a slow start here, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
one train down and two penalties issued. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Make sure you've got your Railcards out, ready for inspection. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
And on the next train, the team don't have to dig too deep | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
to spot a problem with THIS passenger. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
-How old are you, sir? -15. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
You're 15. Do you just want to come over here? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
15?! Pull the other one! | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
Have you got anything that shows me you're 15? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Because you definitely look over 15. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
What's your date of birth? | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
Right, OK, you're over 15, aren't you, sir? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Mate, can I just go through now? I'm in such a rush. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I dare say you are, sir. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
If he's 15, then I've got a full head of hair. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
And now, having been caught out, this young chap is threatening to throw his toys out of the pram. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
What seems to be the issue with the gentleman? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
The gentleman claims to be 15 or under. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
I didn't have money to buy a full one. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
And now you're about to fine me, I don't have any money for that. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
-Right, OK. -I haven't any money on me. That's why I had to buy... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
You want to check that chap. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
So it looks like our pretend teenage tearaway has now changed his tune. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
He's no longer claiming he's 15, but just that | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
he didn't have enough pocket money to cover the adult fare. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
You've committed a fraudulent offence by paying for a child ticket. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
No disrespect, you're clearly not a child. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Despite being caught bang to rights, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
he's refusing to take his punishment lying down. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
In fact, he's trying to take off. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Yeah, that didn't work. Time to grow up fast, mate. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
The gentleman that I was talking to is clearly over 15, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
he has a child ticket, travelling on a child ticket, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
which is an offence. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
And it might be about to get worse for our not-so-young friend. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
As this is a deliberate attempt at fare dodging, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
rather than just a genuine mistake, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Neil now has the power to take things further. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
He could choose to interview this passenger under caution, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
leading to a court prosecution. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
So, what's it going to be? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
A penalty fare or a call-up to the big boys' court? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
I'm going to deal with you by way of a penalty fare. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Technically I could deal with you by way of prosecution, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
but I'll deal with you by way of penalty fare. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Write down for me, please, name, address, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
date of birth, and then sign it and date it, OK? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
So, it's just a £20 penalty fare, and some forms to fill in. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
Let's hope he can remember his date of birth this time. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Fantastic. Thank you very much. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
Right, thank you very much, sir. If you'd like to sign there, please. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
I think this chap can count himself very lucky as it could have been a | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
lot, lot worse. I wonder if he's learnt his lesson. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Thought I was doing all right by paying a child fare. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
I should've just jumped it completely. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
I could have saved myself £1.50. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Maybe not. And as the next train rumbles in... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
All tickets and passes today, please. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
..the penalties keep on coming. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
At this present moment, I can count one, two, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
three, four, five, six, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
seven... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Seven tickets being issued at the same time. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
My jaw is dropping. I can't believe what I'm seeing. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
The fines are all adding up, and with just | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
this one small exercise, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
you can see why London Midland estimate | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
they lose more than £8 million each year | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
due to fare dodging. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
I'll deal with that by way of penalty fare. Penalty fare's £20. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
And you can't blame them for | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
trying to claw some of it back. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
Do you not have a ticket at all with you, madam? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Unfortunately that means | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
you'll be eligible for a penalty fare. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
I'm doing my best to try to catch my breath. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
But for the guys, today seems to be a case of business as usual. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-Mike. -Yes? -It's busy, isn't it? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
It is. It's about what we expected. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
It's no busier than we thought it was going to be. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
So, tell me about other days when you've done this. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
How many people are you likely to sort of issue notices to? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
One of the... I suppose you could say the worst ones that we ever did | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
here, we did 85 penalty fares in an hour and a half. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
85 in an hour and a half! | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
Well, they're not there yet, but you never know. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-You need to keep your pen out because another train's pulling in here. -Yeah! | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
There's no point putting the pen away, is there? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
No, you may as well keep it out. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
Another train and another busy session. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
I'm worried the team's in danger of running out of ink. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
But in amongst those dodging fares, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Mike finds a passenger who does have a ticket. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
The only problem is, it's for a different station. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
OK, by using this ticket, you are committing an offence of over travel. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
OK. It's the same price to get... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
But, yeah, it's not what the ticket says. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
It's only valid to university, so you've over-travelled. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-One stop. -It is one stop. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
But you've over-travelled. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
It seems this passenger has bought a ticket for an earlier stop, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
but got off here further down the line. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
She can't see what the problem is, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
as she says the price of a ticket for either stop is the same. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Tricky one, this. What is Mike going to do? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
I'm going to issue you a penalty fare notice | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
for over-travelling on your ticket. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Ouch, that's a £20 fine. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
That's going to hurt, especially on a student budget. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
From what I understand, you've gone one stop too far on your ticket. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
-Why is everyone doing that? -Because it's the same price for me | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
to get from... to get a return from university to Birmingham | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
as it is for me to get a return from Selly Oak to Birmingham. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
So you wouldn't expect there would be a £20 penalty fare on a student. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
You've been issued with a penalty fare. You do have the right to appeal, as I said. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
I understand the process, but you can appreciate how ridiculous that is. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
How ridiculous is it that you're travelling on to a station | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
-that your ticket doesn't... -It's the same price. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
But your ticket doesn't let you travel to that station. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
It's the same price, though. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
It's not that you haven't bought a ticket, you bought a ticket... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
So, appeal it, see how you get on. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Yeah, I don't really think that it's going to do anything. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
You don't know unless you try, do you? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
Well, they both make good points, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
but unfortunately, only one of them is going away with a fine. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Are you feeling cheesed off about it? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
Yes, because there's people that don't buy tickets, ever, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
and then there are people who buy tickets every time. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-And... -You feel a bit hard done by, don't you? | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
It's 20 quid, though. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
And as a student, that's a lot of money. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Well, it's hard not to feel sorry for that passenger, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
but she's just one of many. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
And this next case looks pretty black and white to me. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
I'm going to say the obvious - why haven't you got a ticket, Chris? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Well, I just never meant to buy one, really. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
-Cos you know that it's more serious if you just forget to buy a ticket. Did they explain that to you? -Yeah. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
I mean, I've had these before, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
actually paying off quite a large fine from before. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
And stuff like that. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
What, getting a fine from not having a ticket? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Yes. What happened was that I was issued with the fine, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
forgot about the fine, gone to court, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
and then it ended up a £600 fine. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
But you've got on here again today without enough money to even buy a ticket. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Why have you done it, though? That's the obvious thing to ask, isn't it? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
This line, it's not really monitored very well. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
So you kind of know that you can get away without a ticket. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
The prices of tickets every day, travel every day, it just builds up. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
What will you do tomorrow? Will you buy a ticket or not bother? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Well, it all depends on the money. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
If I've got somewhere to be and I've got no money, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
and that train is going to get me there, I need to be there, then... | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
-You'll get on it. -You know, if I've got the money at the time | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and I know I'm going somewhere where I need to be, then I will pay. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Chris, been lovely talking to you. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
All right, get that paid, don't let it get up to 600 quid next time, will you? All right. Cheers, mate. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
Got to say, I'm completely gobsmacked at Chris's honesty. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
For him, even though it's the second time he's been nicked, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
first time the fare went up to 600... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
Well, the fine went up to £600. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
He actually said, I'm quids in. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
And he said next time I get on a train, I haven't got any money, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I won't care less, I'll just get on anyhow. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
He was so blase, smiling and chirpy. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
I'm...I'm shocked, really was. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
After that frantic couple of hours, it's time to wrap things up and have | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
a quick debrief with Mike back at his Birmingham HQ. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
When London Midlands invited us along to watch them do one of | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
your blocks at the station, which is something you do quite regularly, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
I was absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
We were there two hours. How many tickets did you issue? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
We issued 94 penalty fares, and we | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-issued one interview under caution. -OK. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
95 people were caught without a ticket. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
I do feel sorry for people who've got a fine, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
because a lot of them can't afford it. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
But there is a message out there, isn't there? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
You're going to get caught. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
-These guys are doing this on a regular basis. -Yes, yes. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Buy a ticket. It's as simple as that, is it? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
-Absolutely, simple as that. -And you can buy me a coffee, come on. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-I'm freezing cold, I'm cream-crackered. -No problem. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
No-one wants to find their vehicle clamped or removed, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
but in the last two years, since they got rid of paper tax discs, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
the amount of cars clamped has almost doubled. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Because the simple fact is, if you don't tax your car, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
you're either going to get a hefty fine, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
or you're going to lose it completely. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
How do you feel about cars on the road that are untaxed? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
If I've got to pay for it, I think everyone else should pay for it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Yes, I think it's a good point, isn't it? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Do you think it's unfair that they are clamped? | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
I think you have enough warnings. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
If you are clamped, that's fair enough. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Many years ago my friend was knocked over by somebody | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
in a car who wasn't taxed. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
So, I have a personal interest in that as well. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-Well, if you haven't got tax, you should be clamped, I believe. -Yes. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
You know, that's what we all... Everyone else has to pay their tax. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
Fair enough. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
And I'm here in south Wales with | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency's clamping unit | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
who are on the lookout for untaxed vehicles. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Just got to watch the chain sometimes because they get a bit oily. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
Thanks for telling me after I've given you a hand! | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
And as a seasoned clamper, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Andrew Smith will be tracking those vehicles down | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and dishing out the fines. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
That's all your clamps rattling in the back there, isn't it? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
-That is. -You must be really happy when you've clamped | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
loads of vehicles and you can drive home without that rattle. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-Going back empty, yes. -It would drive me bonkers, that would. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
But to do that, he'll need to find the offenders. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Luckily, he's got a nifty bit of technology to help him. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
What it's doing is, it's reading the number plates. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
So everything that goes past us is being read by all four cameras. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
That's an awful lot of cameras on a little van, isn't it? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
It's covering all the bases, basically. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Because if you don't catch it on the front cameras, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
you're going to catch it on the back cameras as you go past the car. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
We've got a fairly good chance of catching them. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Really? There's a lot of vehicles out there untaxed? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Yes, even that 1% in the country, it's still a lot of cars. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
And he's not kidding. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
There are over 550,000 untaxed cars currently driving on the UK's roads. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
That's £80 million that could be ploughed back into the road network. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
And Andrew's heard all the excuses. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Is there a common denominator with some | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
that you hear time and time again? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
It's the usual ones. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
I didn't get my reminder. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
-'Attention.' -Ooh. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
'Sure enough, Andrew's box of tricks soon springs into life. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
'Made me jump, anyway.' | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
'And that means there's an untaxed vehicle in the vicinity. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
'Even driving at speeds, this kit can spot a tax-dodger. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
'Certainly beats plodding the streets | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
looking at the old paper discs, doesn't it? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
What we do is we check on my little hand-held computer. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
It's like Bill Gates' bedroom in here, isn't it? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
-Yeah! -All I can see is electronics. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
And then we wait and see what message we get back. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
So that comes back and says, yes, this is an untaxed vehicle. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
You go back, boom, clamp. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
-Basically... -We've only been on the road five minutes. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
That's telling me that one is unlicensed and the SORN is in force. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
'Having a statutory off-road notification, or SORN, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
'means a vehicle should NOT be on a public highway.' | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
Right, that's the first clamp of eight in the vehicle. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Have you ever needed more than eight? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
I think that's a yes. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
I've got to say, it doesn't actually look in bad condition. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
It's not the old banger I was expecting. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
'But it's still illegal. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
'This Beamer is untaxed, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
'with the owner claiming it's currently off the road. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
'I think you can guess what's going to happen next. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-So, simple as that? -Simple as that, clamped. -Clamp on. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Yep, car is immobilised. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
And all we do is we put a warning sticker on to say he's got a clamp on the vehicle. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-Because the last thing we want him to do is pull away with that clamp on. -Yes. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-He wouldn't get very far, would he? -Nah. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
'But they will be getting a £100 fine, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
'which rises to £200 if they don't get it sorted within 24 hours. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
'Ouch!' | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Now, I mean, that could have been a quarter of that size, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
but I'm assuming what you want to do is not just let him know there's a clamp on it, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
but also you're trying to put a message out there to people. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-Yes. -It's been caught with no tax. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
You know, you get your bum smacked and it's a message to other people, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
-don't do it. -Yeah. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
'And talking of getting important messages out...' | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Put your seat belt on! | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
Hey, look! | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-Ey-up! -He's putting it on now. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
He's putting it on now. Put it on. And you! Put it on. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
He's got it on behind him. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Gordon Bennett! You'll get a penalty for that. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Cheeky monkeys. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
'At least that van was taxed. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
'So, just a few minutes into the patrol | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
'and that's one clamp down already for Andrew.' | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
What's the most you've issued in a day? | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
The most I've done in a day has been 28. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
-You're joking? -No. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
'No, he's not joking, is he?' | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
28 enforcements. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
-'Attention.' -Oh, what was that? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
That was a warning notice, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
so what we are going to do is we're going to pull in just there. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-You're going to run out of clamps at this rate. -We could do. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
'Not a car this time... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
'Attention.' | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
Not another one. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
'..but a tipper truck.' | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
I'm getting the impression, looking at the vehicle, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
that if the owner sees you putting a clamp on, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
he's not going to be too happy. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Possibly. Possibly. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Not only is this vehicle parked in a... | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
I think it's a loading-only bay... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Oh, someone's sitting in it. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
'Oh, dear. I'm not sure the driver is going to be too pleased to see Andrew. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
'But his truck is untaxed and parked up on a public road. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
'I don't know about you, but I can definitely feel a fine coming on. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
What I'm supposed to do is, I'm supposed to immobilise your vehicle. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-OK. -Which requires me to put a clamp on your vehicle. | 0:18:54 | 0:19:00 | |
-Which I'm going to be doing now. -OK. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
So that's to stop you from moving this vehicle about, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
because obviously at the moment it's come back as being untaxed. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'But will he get off without a fine?' | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
How do you feel about the fact he's clamping it while you're sitting in it? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
-Be honest. -I'm shocked because I'm in the middle of a job. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
I'm working, I'm a builder. I've got four vehicles. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
That's what I'm saying, I've got four vehicles, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
it comes out of my account, direct debit. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Let's hope it's a genuine mistake because you might be able to sort it out on the phone now, mightn't you? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
I don't understand what's happening. I'm on the phone to the DVLA now. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-Right, OK. -So... | 0:19:32 | 0:19:33 | |
This guy is here, he's quite shocked he hasn't got tax, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
say he pays it by direct debit. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
He's trying to sort it out now on the phone with the DVLA. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I'm hoping, I really am hoping it's a genuine mistake | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
and they can take the clamp off and say, you know, don't worry, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
DVLA got it wrong on their system, you're all free to go. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I've got a funny feeling that's not going to be the case. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
'The driver claims it's the DVLA that have made a mistake with the payment. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
'The fact is, he needs to get his truck taxed straightaway.' | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
They were taking it out, they refunded it, they're saying | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
obviously that there was no registered keeper on this vehicle, so... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
That's something maybe at their end. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
-If I go tax it right now... -If you tax it right now... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Yes, give me a second, then. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
There's still going to be a fine on it, though. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Which is going to be what? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
-If you tax the vehicle first, it'll be £100. -OK. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
'Oh, well, didn't get away with it this time, mate. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
'That's a £100 on-the-spot fine. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Can you wait here and I'll just do it now, quickly? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-I've got my paperwork to do. -Yeah, and I'll pay it right now. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
You'll need that one anyway. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Right, V62. Give me two minutes, then. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Can I just check, Andrew? If he does all this, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
are you able to take that clamp off for him? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-Once all the fines are paid and everything's paid on the vehicle... -There's £100 anyway. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
Well, not to us, but to the DVLA. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Obviously once all that's done, then it's gone through... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
But like you said, they were taking the money, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
but they refunded it, so it was genuine. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
I haven't got time to be going through everything... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
It just goes to show, you should check, you know. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
'He's right, because if he had done, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'he might just have saved himself £100.' | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
So, basically, at the end of the day, it's just a bit of inconvenience, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
£100 fine, someone's got to come down and take that clamp off. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-Or are you going to do it? -He's going to do it, yes. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Oh, good. So apart from the 100 quid, it ain't too bad, is it? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-No, it's not the end of the world. -OK. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
'You know what? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
'It's probably a good job the driver was in the vehicle | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
'when Andrew appeared. Otherwise, he might still be clamped.' | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Andrew's now taking the clamp, it's been probably less than 20 minutes | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
since he put it on. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
That guy literally didn't realise it wasn't taxed, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
he's gone to the Post Office, he's done it. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
He's paid his 100 quid over the phone. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Quickest Andrew's ever put one on and taken it off. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
I feel like you've set a record today, Andrew. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
I'm going to have a word with Guinness Book Of Records. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Yes, it's a record! | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
Right, time to own up | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
if you have problems remembering what goes in what bin. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
But this colour-coded rubbish rainbow isn't bureaucratic pettiness gone mad. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
Our local councils have to hit tough recycling targets | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
or face stiff financial penalties, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
which means, yes, that's right, council taxpayers footing the bill. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
In Cardiff, any binbag bandits had better beware. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
If there is any black bags out, or there is any contaminated waste out, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
or any other issues that might occur, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
then obviously we'll deal with them as we come to them. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Because it's recycling crackdown day. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
And the Starsky and Hutch of domestic waste, Neil and John, are on a mission. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
I've got my boots on there. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
There's just a vital bit of kit to remember first. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
You can tell he doesn't do any work. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
At least I've been through three pairs of boots. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
You're still on the same ones. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
Right, let's go. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Suited and booted, it's time for the team to hit the road. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
To meet tough new cycling targets, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
the council want people to recycle more of their waste | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
in green plastic bags, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
rather than just putting it in the general waste bins. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
If we do come across any black bags, anything like that, then, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
obviously, what we're going to do is, obviously, we'll search them. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
If we find any information which is relevant to the premises | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
that we find it by, we will basically knock on the door, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and ask them for a doorstop interview | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
for why those bags are out, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
because they shouldn't be out, basically, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
because we don't obviously collect black bags any longer. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Any residents who break the city's new recycling rules | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
could face an £80 on-the-spot fine. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
But it's not long before the boys come across | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
a very different type of waste. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
It's cannabis plants. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Cannabis, yeah, cannabis crop. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Cannabis plants! | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
Now, I'm no expert, but that looks like a lot of wacky baccy to me! | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
That's what it looks like from here. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
It is, definitely. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
Cut the crop down, and the actual pods which are left | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
from growing them, they just discard it on any street, basically. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
But it will always be away from the property | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
wherever they've actually grew all the stuff, too. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
So, it's just the waste product. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
But I've still got a feeling whoever dumped this lot | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
could be looking at more than just a fine for not recycling. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
We come across this regular. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Probably four, five times a week, like, you know. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Five times a week? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
Gordon Bennett! As if dealing with normal rubbish wasn't bad enough. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Oh, you can smell it, as well. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Yeah, look, it's the remnants of it. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Ready for production, for sale. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
The fact is, whoever's been producing this amount of cannabis | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
could be looking at a lengthy prison sentence. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
That's two criminal offences. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
One is actually putting the waste out on the street. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
The second one is, obviously, harvesting an illegal crop, basically. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
If we did find any evidence in here, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
for a property, or anything like that, then, obviously, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
we'd have to contact South Wales Police, then. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Fingers crossed whoever left this lot has slipped up and left a clue. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
No, nothing. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Not a sausage. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
So, any chance of the lads catching this criminal | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
have pretty much gone up in smoke. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
But the hunt for recycling rogues continues, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
and Neil's fixed-penalty antenna is soon twitching. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Basically, what we've got here, now, we've got a load of green bags. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
By the look of it already, they look contaminated, to me. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
There's all sorts of stuff in here. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
A lot of this stuff shouldn't be in a green recycling bag. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
And, hang on, looks like Neil's found a bit of evidence. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
Even put bank cards in here. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
So, we've got actually a name now. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
So, what we'll do now, we'll actually | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
carry on looking, see if we can find any other information. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
But we might be able to trace that name now, with the council tax, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
to find out where this has actually come from. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
So, now we've tied the credit card up with actually an address | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
in the bag, and we'll knock on the door now. And if they have, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
if they answer the door now, they will have an on-the-spot fixed penalty, basically. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Crikey. Looks like Neil's not about to let this litter lout get away with it. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
Hi, there. Morning, mate. My name's Neil from Cardiff Council enforcement. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
With reference to all the bags you've put out the front here. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
OK, unfortunately, you've presented them illegally, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
they shouldn't be out on the street. They're all contaminated. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
OK. Excuse me, sir, hello! | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Charming! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
But there's no fazing ex-prison officer Neil. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
-Do you want to call the police? -101? -Yeah. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
He's seen it all before | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
and he's not going to give up that easily. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
Hello? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
Five minutes later, the door slammer's mum opens up, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
offering to take the rubbish back in. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
No, no, no, it's too late for that, now, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
we're actually calling the South Wales Police now. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Oh, there's more of them. I'm going to have to go. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
They've just opened the door now, so, I think it's good to be round two. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
If you were civil about it, then this wouldn't be happening. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Unfortunately, now, what you've actually done is you've actually committed an offence. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
When you slammed the door, you slammed my hand on it, right? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
You were lucky it didn't catch in the doorway because, otherwise, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
you would be getting arrested now for assault, OK? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
So, contaminated bags put out on the wrong day, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
together with an aggressive response. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Is that going to mean a fine? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
You might have waited, just got off with just a warning today, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
all right? But now, because of what you've done, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
I'm actually going to issue you now with a fixed penalty, all right? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
This fixed penalty is for £80. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
A fine for the rubbish it is, then. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But what about that door slam? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Neil explains the situation to the police. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
-Next minute, he just slammed the door straight on me, catching my hand. -OK. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
It's all right, it didn't get trapped in the door, just literally, as they slammed it, it came back. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
Then they've refused to give us any information, obviously, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
so we could follow up our inquiries. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Since then, they've actually come to the door now, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
and they've actually given us all information now that we needed off them. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
So, from a prosecution point of view, we've got enough to carry on with, now. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
And we did try standing it down. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Luckily for this young lad, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
experienced Neil has defused the situation, and handed out his fine. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
So, no jail time today. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
We've actually given the benefit of the doubt. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
We've educated him as well, this time, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
as to what they've actually done wrong, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
both from a violence point of view, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
and also from a waste enforcement point of view. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
At least the door-slammer will think twice before chucking out | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
his DVD collection in the recycling next time. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Last year, there were 3.5 million parking tickets issued | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
in London alone. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
I've done my sums. That's over 9,500 every single day. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
Some people think that giving traffic wardens grief | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
will encourage them to cancel their tickets. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
But it just won't help. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
The only real chance you have of not paying up is to appeal. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
Today, I've come to the Environment And Traffic Adjudicators Tribunal in London, to meet Dr Kurt Barling. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:20 | |
He's disputing parking fines totalling £315 | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
that he believes were not served fairly. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
He's here today to try and get the ruling overturned. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
My car got lifted from outside my house, well, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
four doors up from my house. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
Right, so that's an expensive problem. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
It was a very expensive problem. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:39 | |
Actually, my daughter had parked it halfway across this driveway | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
which is a neighbour's driveway. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
It's typical commuter country where commuters come in, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
in droves, in the morning, and park all the way along the roads. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
You've never got anywhere to park. So, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
we've got plenty of experience of having difficulties parking, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
so we've got this little regime going. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Anyway, this particular day, we didn't anticipate a neighbour | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
calling the local enforcement officers. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Was this guy actually blocked in now? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
-Yes. -OK. -Technically, he was blocked in. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
-How much was the penalty, Kurt? -£255. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-And £60 parking fine. -Ouch. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
'As parking problems on Kurt's road are a regular occurrence, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
'he's even made himself a sign to put in the car window.' | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
So, look, that's what I put on the back. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
OK. "Apologies for parking here. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
"As usual, commuters have cluttered up the road. Grr! | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
"Just knock, we're in, and we'll move in a jiffy. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
"Thanks. Kurt and Kim." | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
Everyone knows who Kurt and Kim is. We've lived there for 24 years. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
I'm going to give you my unbiased opinion on this. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
You have blocked someone in on their driveway. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
I've seen the law. And the letter of the law is quite clear. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Enfield has told me what the law is. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
I think it's unreasonable, disproportionate, and vexatious. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
'Er, I think he means "annoying"!' | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Now, in an ideal world today, what are you hoping for? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
-For this to be completely wiped? -Yes, completely. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
With over £300 at stake, Dr Barling is hoping that | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
head adjudicator Caroline Hamilton will see his side of the story. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
Yes, thank you, bring him in. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
Come in, come in, sir. Have a seat there. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
'Over to you, Caroline!' | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
The allegation is that, on the 13th of January of this year, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
you parked adjacent to a dropped footway. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
And I can see that your vehicle was ticketed, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
and it was removed by the enforcement authority. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
-Is this your vehicle? -It is. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
And I can see here that that footway is dropped to meet the kerb. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
All right, tell me why it is you believe that you are entitled | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
to park in front of this dropped kerb? | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
What you've got to bear in mind is that this road is a very busy road. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
-Right. -It's a road that commuters use, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
and have used for years. It's been a bone of contention for years. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
So, what led you to believe you were entitled to park over another neighbour's driveway? | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
'OK. Caroline's not impressed, yet. But will Kurt's sign do the trick? | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
Kurt and Kim? You're Kurt, are you? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
-Kim's my wife. -Right. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
"Apologies for parking here. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
"As usual, commuters have cluttered up the road. Grr!" | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
I see, so, you have the habit of popping that in your vehicle? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
I've got two vehicles. And if we have to park across, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
we always do that, and everyone knows us. I've lived on the road for 24 years. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
-So, on the 13th of January at some point, she parked there. -Absolutely. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
'So, the sign didn't work. Is there anything that can persuade Caroline?' | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
So, what's your ground of appeal? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
I think it's unreasonable. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:37 | |
Given the circumstances of the road, given the history, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
given that we know this particular complainant never moves his vehicle. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:46 | |
Your case is that you believe you were entitled to park, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
or you should be entitled to park there | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
because your neighbour doesn't use his vehicle? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
I think we're not entitled, the law says, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
as you've told me, and as the local authority has told me. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
I think my daughter assumed, because there's no-one... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
So, now you're saying the case is that she thought she could park there | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
because it wasn't restricted? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
Well, I can't argue that because I don't know. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
'Anyone else think Caroline's closing in on a decision?' | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
'Is this fine going to be upheld? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
All right. Is there anything else you want to tell me about this incident | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
that you feel you haven't already told me? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
No. Only that I've done my best, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
we do our best, to be considerate neighbours. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
And so we are aggrieved. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
So, Dr Barling's daughter parked his car partially over a neighbour's | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
driveway, and left a note in the window. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
But, is the doctor's version of events enough | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
to make Caroline side with him, or will she uphold | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
the council's decision to fine and remove the vehicle? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
You weren't entitled to park there. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
The enforcement authority was entitled to issue an instant ticket | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
to your vehicle. This enforcement authority was entitled to issue | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
the ticket, and the enforcement authority was entitled | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
to remove the vehicle because it was causing an obstruction. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
I'm not going to be able to allow your appeal on that basis. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
All right? Thank you very much for coming. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
OK. Thank you. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
So, the decision of the council has been upheld, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
leaving Dr Barling out of pocket to the tune of £315. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:16 | |
All right. Not the outcome you wanted? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
No, clearly not, no. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Sometimes, the law is an ass, and, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:21 | |
I think, in this case the law is an ass, you know. Erm... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
You've got to try and present your case as effectively as you can. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
On this occasion, it wasn't effective enough. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
For me, was always about the principle. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
For many people, I'm sure, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
money isn't always the issue, the principle is. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-You'll take it on the chin and learn a lesson? -Absolutely. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
-And tell your daughter not to park there again. -Yes, exactly. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Kurt, thanks for your time, much appreciated. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
Let's be honest. We're all guilty of speeding at some point in our lives. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
But, nowadays, things have changed. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
If you get caught doing over 50 in a 30 zone, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
90 in a 60 zone | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
or 100 in a 70 zone, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
you could now be fined a whopping 150% of your weekly wage. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
Now that's going to hurt everyone. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
The new laws came in in April 2017, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
and apply to drivers everywhere, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
even up here on Dartmoor in Devon. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
Dartmoor is a hugely popular tourist destination, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and has a big farming community. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
But it's also a notorious cut-through for traffic | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
trying to avoid the area's busier roads. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
And, unfortunately, not all the inhabitants | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
of this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty can read road signs. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
Every one of these RTCs is potentially a fatality for the driver. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:49 | |
If you hit one of these big animals at speed, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
it must be like hitting a brick wall. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
Dartmoor's ponies are allowed to graze free across the moor. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
But that's come at a cost. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
160 animals were killed by drivers on Dartmoor last year. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
But anyone speeding out here had better beware because Gregg Manning | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
and the Community Speed Watch might just be waiting for you. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
The high-viz jackets certainly help. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
I mean, to start with, from a distance, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
they don't know if we're police or if we are Community Speed Watch. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
And we're not just talking about a leisurely drive in the countryside, either. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
Recently, we've had some data taken off our speed devices, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
and there are some horrific speeds. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
You know, 117mph, on a B-road | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
that's open to animals and people. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
It would be bad enough on the motorway with everybody going in the same direction. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
But here, it's beyond belief, frankly. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
It is, when you realise the limit on these roads is just 40mph. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
Luckily, Gregg's got his radar speed gun at the ready, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
to catch any wannabe racing drivers. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
We record both the index plate of the vehicle, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
the speeding vehicles only, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
and the make, model and colour, and we also do a count, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
so we know how many vehicles. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
And then we can work out the percentage of those vehicles | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
that are actually exceeding the limit. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
Normally, Gregg's team hand the speed gun info to the police who | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
dish out warning letters. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
He's dropping down again, now. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
But, today, the cavalry, well, the police, have arrived in person, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
and they're out to issue some tickets. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
-Good afternoon. I'm Gregg. -Hi, pleased to meet you, Gregg. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
We're probably visible from space now, with all this high-viz! | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Meet Special Police Constable Chris Haynes-Brown. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
We are special constables ourselves, so we're also volunteers. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
And it's great to see that we've got community spirit that can pull | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
together these groups | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
that will raise awareness of the speeding issues across the moor. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Only today, we've just driven past a dead pony | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
on the side of the road that a car's hit. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
We're laser-trained, so we can prosecute, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
and we will prosecute those drivers that go over a certain threshold of speed. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
But, first, they've got to catch them in the act. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Although it looks like a bit of a slow start... | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Got a bicycle coming now. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
-He needs to pedal a bit faster. -Yeah! | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-Oh, that's good, it's good. -LAUGHTER | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
Next time, mate. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
But, it's not long before | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
the police get a real speeder in their sights... | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
55mph. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
..because this Land Rover's well over the limit. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
Do you mind if I jump in? I'm just going to caution you. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
-So, you're not under arrest. -Mm-hm. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
And once we've finished with the paperwork, you are free to leave. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
So, you do not have to say anything | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
something which you later rely on in court. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you understand? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Oh, dear. It's not looking good. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
He's being read his rights already. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Effectively, you've been caught doing 55mph in a 40 limit. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
Do know whether you've got any points on your licence? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Yeah, I have, I've got three at the minute. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Three points? Whoops. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
He really should have known better, then. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
But does the owner of this Land Rover have an excuse up his sleeve? | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
I've just been out to a farm to deliver a tractor, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
and I was just my way back home. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
I thought it was higher than it was on here. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
And actually I didn't even realise I was doing the speed I was doing, to be fair. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
That's a "no", then. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
So, Chris clocked this driver doing 55 in a 40-mile-an-hour zone. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
The law says that three points and a fine of 50% of the driver's weekly wage. Ouch! | 0:39:33 | 0:39:40 | |
So, all I need now is your signature on the bottom, there. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Looks like Chris has got him bang to rights. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
The question is, has he learnt his lesson? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
I know not to be doing 50 along this bit again, that is for certain. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
So, that's yours. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
OK. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
I wish you a better start to the bank holiday weekend. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Take it on the chin, and thanks for being so civil. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
-That's all right. -OK. He now realises that it's a 40 along here. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
He was very civil, that's exactly the perfect person to pull over. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
It will be, for him, most likely, a financial penalty, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
and more points on his licence. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
It's scary how quickly these eagle-eyed volunteers | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
and special constables start racking up speeding offences. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
But their hard work trying to protect the livestock and motorists | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
here isn't always appreciated. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
They've called us "wombles" on social media, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
but I've come up with an acronym for that | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
which is Working On Moors Because Locals Exceed Speed. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
So that's why we're WOMBLES. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:48 | |
We thought they'd work that out. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
We're talking speeding, not littering! | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Hang on a minute. That motorcyclist looks like he was going some. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
This bike has just been recorded as doing 56mph | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
on the B3212, just coming out of Postbridge | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
which is a 40-mile-an-hour limit. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
So, my colleague is going to process him, give him a ticket. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Doing 56 might not sound like much | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
but I wouldn't fancy hitting a pony at that speed. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
And he's not the only two-wheeled speed demon they've had a run in with. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
He came from that side. He was going this way. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
And he stopped, and he almost stopped, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
and he wiggled the back of his bike, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
revved up, lifted his front wheel | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
and shot off in that direction so fast we couldn't get his number plate. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
But it was a blatant, sort of, you know... | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Today's Dartmoor demon doing 56 in a 40 zone | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
is facing a whopping fine of 100% of his weekly salary. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
I bet he didn't see that coming. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
It's proved that working with Dartmoor National Park, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Dartmoor Livestock Protection Society | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
and the community volunteers that man Dartmoor Speed Watch, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
we've really come together well today, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
they've recorded 20 vehicles out of 120 vehicles that have gone by. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
We've issued a few tickets as well. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
And so, hopefully, this is going to reinforce the message that more care is really important. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
So, the police are on their way, leaving Gregg and his team to carry | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
on slowing down the speedsters and protecting the ponies. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
It would be nicer if we could come out here and record 127 cars | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
and have no speeding vehicles. That's what we're aiming for. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
But I think we've got a way to go yet before we can achieve that. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
That's all for today. Join me next time when I'll be out | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
with the men and women who issue Britain's on-the-spot fines. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 |