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Never before have so many on-the-spot fines | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
been issued in Britain. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
-You're about to fine me. I don't have any money for that. -Come here! | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
We're going to be following the men and women who hand out | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
over £30 million-worth of tickets every month... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
-Hello. -That gets my goat! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
My jaw is dropping! | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
..for behaviour that's downright dangerous... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
..simply selfish... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
It's been defrosted a while that, hasn't it? | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
..or just, well, plain silly. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Get off your phone, doughnut! | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-How much is the fine on this one? -£100 for no seat belt. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
-It's expensive. -I know, yeah. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
..and how this could affect you. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm in the middle of a job. I'm working. I'm a builder. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
-The police are on it... -Your mouth, now. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
..the parking wardens are on it... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Once it's printed, that's it. There's no point arguing the point. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
..and I'm on it. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
Put your seat belt on! Cheeky monkeys! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
I'm Dom Littlewood and I'm... | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
This time, when they said, "Ride shotgun with the police"... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
It's a domestic incident where a female's saying | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
she's had a gun put to her head. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
..I didn't think they meant it literally. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
It's pump-action, isn't it? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
There's a fast food fail in Pendle. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
We've got more pizza dough. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
He's obviously not very good at his job either, by the looks of things. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
And the heat is on for one takeaway tipper. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
You're looking at going to court and being fined very heftily for it, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
so you need to think on your feet now. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
I know what you're thinking - has Dom got a new ride? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
-Morning, guys. -Morning. -Morning. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
This is an unmarked police car and, today, I'm in Herefordshire. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
I'm riding shotgun with the West Mercia traffic police | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
and I've been warned to expect the unexpected. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-That's right, guys, isn't it? -Oh, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
I'm out on patrol with PCs Mark Simpson and Tom Milton. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
They're looking for speeders, drivers on the phone - | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
anything that can be hit with an on-the-spot fine. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
But the thing about life as a traffic cop | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
is that anything can happen, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and that can mean being diverted at any moment. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
UNCLEAR RADIO MESSAGE | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Can you give us an idea what's going on, guys? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Basically, we've been called. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
It's a misrouted 999 call for the Met police. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
It's a domestic incident where a female's saying | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
that she's had a gun put to her head | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
by her ex-partner or her current partner. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
-Wow! -That's all we've got at the moment. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Crikey! These boys weren't joking | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
when they said, "Expect the unexpected." | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
I thought they'd be handing out fines and slapping wrists, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
not facing pistols at dawn. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
-If there's a firearms incident going on... -Yeah. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
..don't you guys have to have bulletproof vests on | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and firearms yourself? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
The authorised firearms officers, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
they'll go in and be able to deal with this. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
-We're Taser support officers, so we've got a Taser... -OK. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
-..that we carry. -Phew! I'm relieved backup's on the way. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
You don't want to be the guy that takes a Taser to a gunfight! | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
And as we speed off to answer the call... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Get out the way! Where did they get their driving licence? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Out of a Christmas cracker? Good Lord. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
..we've got more news about the suspect and the weapon. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
-POLICE RADIO: -We had to caution last year | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
for possession of a starter pistol. There's no indication as to whether | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
the starter pistol was taken from him. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
This guy has been cautioned in the past | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
for having the kind of replica gun that fires blanks | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
and is used for starting races. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Sounds like he likes his guns. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
So, it's possibly a starter gun, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
er, which, for all intents and purposes, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
could have been modified and it could be a real firearm. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
I've got to say, these guys seem to be taking it all in their stride. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Me? I'm a little bit more unsure. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
What are you expecting to see when we get there? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Another unit's just timed on. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I'm just trying to read the log, to see exactly what's going in, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
but the most important thing is we don't go charging in. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Well, I'm happy to agree with that. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Even if it's not a real gun, there's still definitely real danger here, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
especially for the victim who's called 999. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm going to hang back and let the guys do their stuff. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Show us who's in the house, please. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Police officers coming in. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
It sounds like there's nobody in the house. The police are in. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I can hear them shouting, "Show yourself." | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
But, potentially, someone round here could have a gun right now. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Keep my eyes peeled, just in case. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
You've got to admire these boys. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
They were expecting to deal with dodgy driving | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
and with just one call, they're facing up to this. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Stand still. There's somebody there. Sounds like they've got their man. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
There's somebody in cuffs. Seems quite calm at the moment. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
No signs, that I'm aware of, of a gun at the moment. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
They're actually searching the house now | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
to make sure there's no firearms obviously been hidden away. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Hello, puss, you all right? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Bit of a crazy situation, isn't it? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Crazy indeed. I might not look it, but I'm still a bit nervous | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
about what the cops might bring out of this place. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
And it's looking like they turned up something pretty shocking. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
Now, I don't know about you, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
but that looks very much like a pump-action shotgun. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Gordon Bennett! | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Is it a real firearm? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
No, it's not an actual firearm. It might be a BB gun or something. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
-It's pump-action though, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
It's a BB gun or an air rifle - | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
something that fires small metal pellets. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
It's not a lethal weapon, but it sure looks like one to me. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
-Who'd want something like that in your house anyhow? -I don't know. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-Whatever sort of weapon that is... -Trouble is... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Are we happy with what it is? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
I think it's just a BB gun, mate, to be fair. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Obviously, we can't check 100%, can we? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
We'd need firearms guys, but I'm sure it's a BB gun, mate. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
And the search has turned up another surprise. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Is that...? That's a second one, is it? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -Don't touch anything on that. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
-It looks BB. -Yeah, it is, yeah. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
It's got no hammer on it, which is a good sign, I suppose. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-Yeah, it does say "BB" on the side. -Yeah. -But you never know. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Yeah, they can all be modified, can't they? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
-Obviously, we've searched the house, ongoing upstairs. -Yeah. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
We've basically found a gentleman in the back bedroom. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Why he's not come out the bedroom to our calls, I don't know. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Basically, I've had to red dot him with the Taser, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
for the time being, cos, obviously, I wasn't sure... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
That means you just got ready to shoot it, but you didn't. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Yeah, you just present the Taser and I've just had the Taser on him | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
whilst he's been in the bedroom. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
He's not showing us his hands, initially, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-so a little bit concerned about what's going on. -Yeah. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
He's come out the bedroom, been handcuffed by my colleague | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
and then we've brought him out the property. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
In that bedroom, obviously, we found this weapon, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
which we think possibly is a BB gun | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and, obviously, the black handgun as well, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
which was also in the bedroom. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Fortunately, the weapons are now secure, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
but this isn't the end of the story. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
In the call that came through, it wasn't just that somebody had a gun. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-Somebody was pointing it at a woman's head. -Yeah. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
So, the fact that you've now found guns | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
and a guy in there who's acting a bit strangely makes you think | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-it could have been a very serious situation. -Of course, yeah. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And, obviously our concern now is there's been a female | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
that's phoned this in, or somebody's phoned this in, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
or a female that's had the gun held to her head, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
so where's the female now? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
So, we need to find out where the female is, really. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
Thankfully, we learn the woman who was in danger is now safe and well, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
but the man who threatened her, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
well, he still seems to be causing problems. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Keep yourself calm, keep yourself calm. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Smoke your cigarette, OK. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
We're waiting for a van to come. You can stand out here if you want. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Stand against the wall. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
It really is quite a sorry state of affairs. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
The police have come rushing down here, risking life and limb, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
travelling at high speed, to take care of this incident. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
There's two guns there. I felt the weight of them. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
One's plastic, the other one is almost certainly just a BB gun, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
but they certainly LOOK very threatening and very scary. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
You've got a guy here now who's more interested in having a cigarette | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
than apologising or explaining what's going on. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
So, no fines, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
but definitely a lot more excitement than I was expecting. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Our other team's locked him up and arrested him | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
and we're just waiting for a van to take him into custody | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
and he'll be dealt with accordingly now. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
They are replica firearms. They are BB, BB guns. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
However, if that was pointed at you in a live situation, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
it's difficult to know what you're going to say. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
One of them looks like a pump-action shotgun | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
and one looks like a 9mm Glock, so if it was pointed at me, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
there'd be some serious consequences for that. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Yeah, there certainly would. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
Can you get back to chasing speeding motorists, please? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Give me a chance to calm down a bit! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
It's a sad fact that some people are willing | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
to dump their waste onto our streets. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
It clogs up the rivers or the lakesides. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
It just doesn't make it look nice. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
I've seen pictures of places where it used to look nice | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
and then, cos of fly-littering, it's just, literally messed up. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
I don't like fly-tippers at all. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
The simple reason is they're making a mess of our country | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and also, they're making everyone suffer. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
I was driving along the other day | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
and somebody had thrown a nappy out of the back seat. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
They'd probably changed the baby | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
and just thrown the thing out of the window. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
All sorts of things get chucked, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
from building materials to mouldy food. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
You need a strong stomach in the fight against environmental crime. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
-What is it? -Yeah, delicious! | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
But this grime fighter has come prepared. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
It's a good thing I only had cheese on toast | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
for breakfast this morning, isn't it? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
You had cheese on toast? Very nice. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
Environmental crime officers Jon and Lesley are on patrol in Pendle. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
-Right then, where are we going? -Left. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
They've had a complaint from a local business owner | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
that somebody's been dumping rubbish in their bins, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and it's not the first time it's happened. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
We came here, I don't know whether it was last week | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
or the week before, and it's a persistent problem. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Someone had left their trade waste in their skips. Left then right. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:11 | |
It's not cheap for shops and restaurants | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
to get rid of their waste. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
They pay the council a fee each time the bin is emptied, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
so this local business isn't too keen | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
on someone else's rubbish hitching a ride in their bins. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
This is their stuff. The stuff that's in the bins is their stuff. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
So, are you searching and I'm taking photographs? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
-I don't want to touch it. -No. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
It's Jon's turn to wade through the waste today. Lucky guy! | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
Whatever's in the bags could hold vital clues | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
about where it came from. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
This is a bag of self-raising flour. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
No person in their right mind would have this much flour in the house. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Industrial bags of flour? Hmm, now who would need THAT? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
-Oh, there you go. -What? -There you go. -There you go what? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Ta-da! That's your kebab. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Oh, doner kebab! Haven't had one in ages! | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
More pizza dough. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
He's obviously not very good at his job either, by the looks of things. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
So, it's looking pretty likely | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
-that this waste came from a local takeaway. -Eurgh! | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
But which one? He's going to need some solid evidence | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
of the business it came from to follow this up. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
So, this is a Just Eat receipt. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-You're going to love this! -Is it a different one? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It's a result! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
The receipt shows the name of a local takeaway | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
and it's the one who was in trouble before. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Could the bag have come from there? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
One of two things has happened here. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Either the customer has ordered an absolute tonne of food | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
and eats about 1,000 eggs in a weekend, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
or this belongs to the fast food company | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
that have dumped all the waste here. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
-Shall we go and walk over? It's just across the road. -Yeah, can do. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
We'll speak to the lady at the shop first. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
The bins belong to a local carpet shop. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
This is the second time the owner has had to deal | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
with somebody else's waste and she's not happy about it. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
-Hello, we're back again. -Yeah. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Right, we've searched the stuff at the back, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
and it does come back to the same pizza place, so, surprising. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
That you've had the words with? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
Yeah, and they've got their own bins. I've even checked. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
They've got the bins in place, so they want to use yours... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Well, they've not even used your bins this time, have they? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
They've just thrown it down the side. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
-No, they didn't bother putting it in. -So, yeah. -So, what now? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
We're going to have a chat with them, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
but I don't know what you're going to do about it | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
because they'll just keep using your bins. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-We'll have to put chains on, but we shouldn't have to. -No. -No. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
-Shouldn't have to spend and put chains on. -No, you shouldn't. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
-Especially when they've been told. -Yeah. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
The penalties for fly-tipping include on-the-spot fines, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
court appearances and even prison sentences, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
but the threat of action clearly hasn't worked so far. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
It's really frustrating. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Costs us, every other week, £30-odd to empty, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
so I'm paying for somebody else's rubbish to be skipped. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
There are no words. You're like, the frustration is... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
I got angry, got angry. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Done all that and now it's just, you hope that they deal with it | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and they learn their lesson. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Jon and Lesley need some answers. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Across town at the pizza place, they try to find more evidence | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
and here it is. They can't fit any more rubbish in their own bins. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-Have you taken a photograph of that? -Good thinking. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Well, if THEIR bins are overflowing, could that be why | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
they appear to have dumped their waste somewhere else? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
You remember that one of the bins | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
-had loads of peppers, pepper heads? -Yeah. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Peppers. So, it's food waste, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
but does it match the items they found earlier? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
-Yeah. -You can see that they're just... -Yeah, it's the same stuff. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
But just as they're about to leave... | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Is this the same guy I spoke to? I don't know. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Could this be the owner? If it is, he's got some questions to answer. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
-Hello. -Hello, sir. -Are you the guy I spoke to the other week? -Yeah. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
-Are you the boss? -No, I'm not the boss | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
but I am the responsible manager. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
Ah, not the owner, but the manager. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
We found some of your bins fly-tipped | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
at the other side of town. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
I think, I think that there is a conspiracy. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Some of the restaurants, they don't want other restaurants, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
because it makes... They don't like other restaurants to grow. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
A conspiracy? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
He seems to think that other restaurants in the area | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
have dumped HIS waste to get him in trouble. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
I'm not sure Jon and Lesley are going to buy that one. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
When I spoke to you previously, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-you were keeping your black bags in your kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
And then what you did is move the bin bags from the kitchen | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
to your car and take them to the tip. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
So, how could anybody else have moved them | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-to the other side of town? -I really don't know. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-This is a very good question. -It is a very good question. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
You're looking at going to court and being fined very heftily for it, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
so you need think on your feet now | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
and tell me how that waste has got... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
I'm not sure I fancy this guy's chances of getting away with it. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Let's have a look at what we've got. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Some bin bags were fly-tipped across town. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Jon's traced the rubbish back to this restaurant, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
but this guy is pleading his innocence. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Will that get him off the hook or is he about to be given a hefty fine? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
-For example... -You need to answer these questions. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Sir, sir, we've got another business in Nelson, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
and she has got tears coming down her face | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
because your waste keeps finding its way in her bins. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
If it wasn't you that took the bin bags, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
you need to have a serious word with your staff. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
What's it to be? It looks like he's starting to sweat. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
The best course of action here | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
is you need to come in for an interview where we work, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
so we can record a conversation properly, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
so that we can then decide what is the next course of action. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
If he was hoping to talk his way out of it, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
then he might not be so lucky. They're taking his details. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
As I am a responsible citizen, I apologise. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
I promise that I will keep them inside the bin - | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
no, inside the basement - | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
and I will take them out only when they collect the bins on Tuesday. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
I don't think his charm offensive will wash with Jon and Lesley. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
JON SIGHS | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
-All right, thank you. -Want to eat something? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
No, no, we're fine, thank you. Thanks a lot. Thank you. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-I'll try to do my best. -Thanks. Bye-bye. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Jon and Lesley couldn't prove fly-tipping, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
but the manager was in breach of his duty of care and was fined £300. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
Now, we all think we know what fly-tipping looks like - | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
a bin bag or two, or seven. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Or maybe an old fridge-freezer. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
But a whole articulated lorry trailer? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
I wouldn't have believed it myself | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
What you're looking at there is an articulated lorry. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
The bit at the front is called a tractor unit. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
The bit on the back is called a trailer. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
Believe it or not, the tractor unit wasn't there. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
The trailer was - filled up with people's waste. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
It could be full of all sorts of dangerous chemicals, rubbish, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
asbestos, building equipment... No-one knows. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Whoever dumped it there has cleared off and it's the responsibility | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
of all these guys here to get it somewhere safe and unloaded. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
It beggars belief that anyone would abandon a huge trailer | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
in the middle of a busy road, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
let alone one which could tip or burst open at any time. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-Would YOU want to drive past it? I know -I -wouldn't. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
-Jim, how you doing? -Hi, there. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
All this livery on the side, all the name and everything else, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
it obviously doesn't belong to THEM, does it? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
No, we've made enquiries on that, Dom. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Harris Transport, whose livery this trailer has, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
sold this two years ago to a company down in Southampton, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-who have subsequently gone into liquidation. -Right. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-So, the trail has gone cold on that one. -Yeah. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Give me a guess - how much weight's in that? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Well, we estimate somewhere in the region of about 40 to 50 tonnes | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
but, until we get it into our contractor's yard, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
we won't know, for sure, how much and we won't know what's in there. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Someone's transported it from A to B, here, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
and any time that could have gone. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
-It could have hit pedestrians or other cars. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I suppose, in theory, if it went on one side, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
the whole lorry could have tipped. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
Yeah, I mean, anything could have happened. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
They parked in a dual carriageway. It's not even parked up in a lay-by. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
So, the immediate problem is it's causing an obstruction to traffic, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
so we've had to put traffic calming procedures in place | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
to push vehicles out onto the other side of the dual carriageway. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Obviously, the guy who's driven it here has probably decided | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
it's got a little bit unstable - | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
as you can see, from the way it is now - | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
and has decided to abandon it here. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
But it could have tipped over at any time. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Anyone passing could have been killed. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
When you're transporting that down the road, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
I know you'll do it very safely and slowly, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
but if it decides to rip its belly, that's going to close this road off | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
for a long, long time and cost a fortune to get it all cleared up. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Potentially. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
This is a major trunk road, leading up to the A13, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
which is the main route in and out of London for east London. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
This is fly-tipping at its absolute worst, isn't it? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-That's unbelievable. -And if you manage to find out who it is, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
no doubt you'll come down on them, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
-you'll hit them hard, won't you? -We'd be looking to prosecute. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Tracking down the person responsible isn't going to be easy, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
but if they do, the driver could be looking | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
at an unlimited fine and up to five years in prison. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
What's going to happen now? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
You had to bring down this tractor unit here to get it away, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
-so that's your own one. -Yeah. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
How far have you got to transport it now to the waste yard? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Right, we've got a contractor we use | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
and they've got a depot just five minutes up the road | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
where we can take this | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
and we've arranged for the police to be here as well, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
so that they can block off the roundabout that's up the top, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
-cos we can only move this at about 3 or 4mph. -Yeah. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Cos the danger is, as soon as we start moving it, it could tip over. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Well, I hope it doesn't, because I've been asked to ride upfront, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
as the trailer makes its perilous journey to the depot. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Oh, well, let's hope whoever's driving this thing | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
has got plenty of experience. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
I've got to say, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
you've got to be the youngest HGV driver I've ever seen in my life! | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
-How old are you? -19. -He's a teenager! | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
He's driving a heavy goods vehicle! Good on you. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
-When did you pass your test? -A year ago, when I was 18. -Wow! | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
You're the youngest I've ever seen. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
What's happening here? The police have gone ahead now. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
They've shut the roundabout off, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-so we can keep the lorry as straight as we can. -OK. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
-If anything's going to happen, it's going to happen when we tilt. -OK. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-The reason being, they want you to stay as straight as possible. -Yes. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
So, you close the roundabout, obviously, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
-you haven't got to weave in and out. -That's it. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-There's plenty of bouncing around. -Yeah. -Why is that? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Is it cos the trailer's dangerous, it's old? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
This trailer's not designed for the weight that's in it. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
A bulging, overloaded, dangerous HGV trailer, driven by a teenager? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
I mean, what could possibly go wrong? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
It gets worse, this, doesn't it? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
-Now we've got to turn in. -Right, so if anything's going to happen, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
this is probably the most dangerous point. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-We're not expecting anything, are we, in theory? -No. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Famous last words, Rob. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
I'm starting to wish I hadn't agreed to this! | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Just steady, yeah. Steady. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Now I don't want to count my chickens too soon, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
but it does look like we've made it in one piece. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
I must say, Jordan, I think you passed your test | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
with flying colours. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
-Have to reverse it into a parking space. -Yeah. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Great! That drama is over, but the clean-up job is only just beginning. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
Well, you saw the palaver it took to get that from point A to point B, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
which was only about two miles down the road. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
This poor guy here now has got to unload | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
the trailer from the tractor, which means he's got to risk his life | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
of that thing bursting open | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
and burying him under whatever's in there. We don't know. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
And there's a few raised eyebrows from the crew. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-You didn't even think we'd make it this far? -No. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
I had odds on the first roundabout. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Crikey! I'm lucky to still be in one piece! | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
What's going to happen now? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
We'll unload it and once it's completely empty, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
the trailer will go to be cut up and used as scrap. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
What do you suspect's in there? Building waste? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
-I would say it's stuff that's got to go to its end of life. -Yeah. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
-To the landfill site. -Do you reckon there's any chance | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
they're going to get a clue who might have dumped it there | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-or where it came from? -Possible. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
There may be some envelopes or bits of paper in there, you never know. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
-Yeah. -You don't know until you open it. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
-It could be full of stolen jewellery. -Could be. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Could be gold bullion. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-Yeah, there's a lot of that gold bullion still around. -Touch wood. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
And, you know, we could split that reward evenly, couldn't we? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
And if there is some gold in there, it would certainly come in handy | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
to help pay the costs of cleaning all this mess up. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Jim, let's talk money now. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
How much is this likely to cost the council, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
the taxpayer round here, to dispose of this properly now? | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
I reckon this is going to cost us the best part of about £20,000. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
-That's an awful lot of taxpayers' money, isn't it? -It's unbelievable. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I think you're going to be lucky to get any clues in that lot, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-aren't you? -Er, very unlikely. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
If we get anything, then, who knows, we could do a prosecution. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
-That ain't going to be good for the person who done it. -Oh, no. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
If the person who fly-tipped this trailer full of rubbish is caught, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
the penalties can be severe. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
It can be an unlimited fine, it will go to Crown Court | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
and they could get up to five years in prison. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Let's hope they get caught. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
Crikey! You don't see that often, do you? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
But now, we're in beautiful, tranquil West Wales. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Hopefully, I can put my feet up in the voiceover studio | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
and finally catch my breath. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
Because, surely, there can't be too many on-the-spot fines here. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
Hold your horses! I thought this was going to be a nice, relaxing story. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
You can't park there, I'm afraid. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
"You spoke too soon, Dom," I hear you say, and that I did. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Here comes civil enforcement officer Debs... | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
There's no unloading or loading. Instant ticket. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
..and her colleague Bethan. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
It wasn't his lucky day, to be honest. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
These two are the parking protectors of Pembrokeshire. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
Dropped kerb? They're on it. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Upside down blue badge? They're there. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Nothing gets past these ladies. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Is this your vehicle? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Unless it's an old boy who can't quite read the signs. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
I'll take it back this time, but don't put it there again. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Today, the ladies are going to give us | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
the Dom On The Spot consumer guide to parking offences... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Ooh, dropped kerb. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
..starting with the dropped kerb. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
We've got a vehicle here, blocking the disabled access. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
Right, so, let's take a look. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
A vehicle parked over a dropped kerb, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
but no yellow lines or other road markings. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Hmm, tricky one, this. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
It's an instant ticket, so as long as it takes her | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
to tap in the details and take some pictures, the ticket is issued. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
Though, obviously, not tricky for Debs and Bethan. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
It's an instant £70 ticket and the key is in those raised humps. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:42 | |
A dropped kerb is... | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Although they're obviously put in place for disabled people, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
we've got families with pushchairs, wheelchairs, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
mobility scooters, blind people. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
As soon as they see that, or feel it with a stick, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
they know it's a crossing point. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
If they want to cross the road and there's a car there, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
chances are they're going to walk into the car. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
They can't cross the road. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
It looks like the drivers of Pembrokeshire cover | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
the whole range of parking offences. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
Chances are there's a barber's just by there, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
they've gone in to have their hair cut. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
We've already had a dropped kerb offence. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Next, it's that old favourite - yep, parking on double yellow lines. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
There's a bay just beyond the car | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
which is a 30-minute bay which it could have parked in. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Now, this one's easy. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Double yellows, no blue badge. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I'm pretty sure this is going to be a fine. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
They've got 20 seconds left now. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Well, unless the driver comes back within 20 seconds. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
No, time up, and it's a £70 ticket. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
Too late, buddy. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
That was an expensive trip to the supermarket, wasn't it? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
There you go. He's been in Tesco's, doing his shopping. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
That's what we get on this street all the time. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
He could just nip round the back into the car park, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
he could get a free half hour | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
and it's only a two-minute walk to the shop, so... | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
It wasn't his lucky day, to be honest. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Hello, you're in the taxi rank, I'm afraid. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Double yellows, no blue badge. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
OK, unfortunately, I'm going to have to book you because... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-I'll move the car. -There we are. If you're going to move, that's fine. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
When they said to me, "Dom, it's a story | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
"about parking enforcement officers in rural Wales"... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
You can't park on the doubles, I'm afraid. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
..I thought this was going to be a quiet afternoon. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
I think she understood. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
It's turning out to be anything but for these two. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
This sign here, it's no unloading or loading | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
of any kind between 11 and 4, Monday to Saturday. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
It works a bit like a double and single line | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
but, because it's controlled at certain times, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
it's an instant ticket. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
-Yeah. -There's no waiting around for Debs. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
That's two instant £70 tickets in one stretch. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
It's what people's conception of us is. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
They don't want to see us, they don't want us booking people | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
but, when there's an issue, "Where's the traffic wardens?" | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and they want us around. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
She has got a point, you know. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
I know what you're all saying - "It all seems a bit petty." | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
But just put yourself in the place of a disabled driver, a blind person | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
or the driver of an emergency vehicle | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
and maybe you'll think a bit differently. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Look, we're not saying you're all a bunch of fare dodgers, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
but I'm sure it's a scenario | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
that may be familiar to more than a few of you. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
There are reasons for not getting a train ticket, I suppose - | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
if you can't get one on the station, which sometimes happens, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
and you could get one on the train and then the conductor doesn't come. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Hmm, they are expensive. I can see why some people might dodge them. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
I think we've all done it before. I think everyone, at some point, has. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
Maybe the warden's not been at the gate | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
and you kind of just walk through and think, "Yes." | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
Imagine the scene. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Morning rush hour, you're running late | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
and there's one of those annoying queues for tickets. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
So, you get on the train and you buy a ticket there. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
But there's no-one to buy it from, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
so now, if there's no-one on the barriers, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
well, "Happy days", I hear you say. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
But if the revenue enforcement team are out mob-handed, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
then you could be looking at a £20 penalty fare. Refuse to pay that? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Well, "See you in court", I believe they say. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
Think about that when you hit the snooze button | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
for an extra five minutes. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
Today, I'm at Euston Station in London, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
with the revenue protection team of the London Midland network, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
keeping an eye on the work of officers, like Margi Sexton. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
-I actually had a complaint about me once... -About YOU? | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
About me, because the gentleman said that I was too smirky, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
cos I smiled at him. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
"I want to complain about her. She's smirky." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
-Do you want to see MY angry face? -This is my natural happy face. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
My angry face is like this. Grrr! | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I tell you what - if you were coming in on the next train | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
and you didn't have a ticket | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and the sight of all these inspections greeted you, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
it's a bit like the All Blacks, isn't it? Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
You're in trouble! | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Margi and her colleagues are taking part in a blockade, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
manning every exit of a platform, so no-one can get off without a ticket. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
-But this isn't some sleepy village station. -Thank you. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Euston is one of the country's busiest mainline station, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
and this is rush hour, so that means, yep, that's right, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
people - thousands of people! | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
Good morning, ladies and gents. Can I have all tickets, passes | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
and Oysters ready for inspection, please? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Everybody who gets off that train now is going to be filtered | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
through these two gates here, so there really is very little chance | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
of avoiding the inspectors. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
And, as you can see, there's thousands of people on board there. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
It is a hell of an inconvenience, and I can understand people | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
who've bought a ticket just want to get through and get to work. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Going to see a few people with very unhappy faces, I think. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
Anyone without a ticket will be hit with a penalty of £20 | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
or twice the single ticket - whichever is greater. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Wow, there's an awful lot of people right now not looking awfully happy. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
There's an awful lot of people complaining | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
that tickets are being checked but, let's be honest, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
if everybody bought a ticket, there wouldn't need to be the checks. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
People desperately want to get to work, so you can see they're upset. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
Margi and her colleagues get to work | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
and it's not long before the penalties start mounting up. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Gordon Bennett, so I'm counting, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
and there's one, two, three, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
four, five, six, seven, eight. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
There's a lady there who looks | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
like she's trying to get one. Possibly nine. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Eight. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
The system's corrupt! Look at them all! Money, money, money, money! | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
Sir, you're blocking the way. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Remember that excuse about running late, blah blah blah? | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
Well, you won't be the first one to use it. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
I did hear you argue with the guys. You felt it was unfair. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
-For what reason? -Well, I joined at an unmanned station. -Yeah. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
There was one ticket machine there. Quite often in the morning, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
particularly if you're getting an early train, obviously, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
you have to be there quickly to get onto the train. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
There was a long line at the ticket machine that meant, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:37 | |
if I'd have queued 10, 15 minutes, I would have missed my train. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Anyone who's had to catch a train can sympathise, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
but that doesn't change the fact it's another penalty fare. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
We're into double numbers. I'm not even going to bother counting them. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
But not all of them are taking it quite so easily. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Margi might have a bit of a problem with this fare dodger. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Looks like he's decided to do a runner and try and get away, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
but he's not going to be able to get away from Margi that easily. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
You just had quite... Was it a scary experience? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Not necessarily, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
because I tend to speak to people the way I wish to be spoken to. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Unfortunately, he didn't like the fact there was going to be | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
-a penalty fare, so he walked away. -You gave chase, though, didn't you? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
No, I walked swiftly with him. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I had to explain to him that this is only a civil issue. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Receiving a penalty is a civil issue but walking away | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
and leaving the premises can then become a criminal issue | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
and if I'd have had to call the police on him, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
he could, potentially, have a criminal record. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
This guy could have had a lucky escape, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
though it might not feel like it to him. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
If he had carried on walking away, what would have happened next? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
-The police were on the way. -Oh, really? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
The police were on the way anyway, as he was walking away. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
He is intending to appeal, which is his right. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
Yeah, let's be honest. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
If he ain't got a ticket, he ain't going to bother appealing, is he? | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Instead of a criminal prosecution, he's got a £20 penalty fare. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
But at least, there's some innocence amongst all these commuters. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
If someone now got caught for fare evading, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
how much do you think the penalty would be? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
-I wouldn't have a clue, mate. -Have a guess. -Um, £100? I don't know. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-I always pay. Is it lower? -Keep going down, yeah. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
-£50? -Down. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
-£40? -Down. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
-£30? -Down. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
-£20? £20 for... -If you're caught fare evading. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
-I thought it was more than that, to be honest. -Right. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
-I thought it was more than that. -You always buy yours? -Always, yeah. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
-Always got my ticket. -That's it - a man after my own heart. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
Oh, hang on a second. Hold that thought. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
Something's going on here. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
Euston, we have a problem. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
-Jamie! -Oh, I didn't tap in, did I? Apparently, I didn't tap in! | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Looks like my new-found mate has forgotten to swipe his Oyster card | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
at the start of his journey. Could that be a penalty fare? | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
-Oh, well, you know how much the penalty's going to be. -I do. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
-I've just been told by Dom. -He knows what he's getting. -Oh! -20 quid down. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
How much would the fare have been? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-Um, I believe it would be about a tenner. -All right. -So, £10 more. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
-Yeah. You crashed and burned but not in a big way. -I've got money on it. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
You can tell I've got money on it. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
It was funny how he came over to have a chat with me, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
let the crowds go down, then went through and the same thing happened. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
I don't know about you, but I keep seeing a common denominator | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
in all these penalty fares. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
Or should that be a common excuse? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
What I found is a common denominator here | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
is everybody is in a hurry - | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
"I've got to work" and "I haven't got time to pay this", whatever. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
But the irony there is, if you bought a ticket, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-you wouldn't actually be held up, would you? -Well, that... | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
One of the rules and regulations of the Railway Act | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
is to give yourself enough time | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
to purchase your ticket before you travel. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
Have you ever read the rules of the Railway Act? | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
They're on the back of your ticket... | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
-I didn't say that! -..in red. -I didn't say where they were. -I have. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Tickets, passes and Oysters ready for inspection, please. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
In just a few hours, so far, there's been 110 tickets issued. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
Bear in mind, this is just London Midland we're following today. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
When you take all the train networks across the country, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
you're probably talking about hundreds, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
if not thousands, of fare evaders every single day of the week. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
And this is only 11 o'clock in the morning. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
That's an awful lot of revenue, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
paid for - yes - by the rest of us passengers. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
The average set of car tyres is good for around 20,000 miles - | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
enough to take you from Land's End to John o'Groats over 20 times. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
But how do you get rid of tyres when they're worn out? | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Most garages charge a couple of quid to dispose of them, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
and do so properly, but that's not always the case. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
In Buckinghamshire, investigator David Rounding has been | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
hot on the trail of a serial tyre dumper. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
That's right - tyres in big piles on public roads. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
Unbelievable, and causing environmental chaos! | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
We first heard about this particular dumper in October, 2014. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
He was... He began dumping single loads of around mid-50s tyres - | 0:37:12 | 0:37:19 | |
50 to 60 tyres in the road. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
50 or 60 tyres a time soon adds up | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
and, since David's been tracking this rubber bandit, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
they've managed to illegally off-load | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 tyres, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and all under the cover of darkness. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
The usual pattern was an unlit country lane, quite quiet, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
and of course, that means it would be very unlikely | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
that somebody would see the tyres being dumped. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Much like the Loch Ness Monster, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
sightings of this mysterious menace were thin on the ground. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
So, to catch their tyre tipper, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
David and his team needed to firm up their evidence. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
We had two cameras in this particular location | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
but we were working elsewhere as well. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
We had a camera in the bushes there | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
and one down at the other end of the road. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
They may have gone down to the woods, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
but this is no teddy bears' picnic. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
The hi-tech surveillance operation led | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
to the team's first recorded sighting of a perpetrator. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
What that allowed us to do was we got the number plate of the vehicle. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
Once we knew the vehicle we were looking for, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
we could backtrack through the police camera records | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
and find out where that vehicle had been. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
That tied in to a lot more dumping incidents. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Not only was this dodgy tyre tipper a one-man ecological disaster, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
their abandoned rubber also posed | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
a very serious threat to public safety. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
You're talking about something which is a dark material in itself. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
On a dark highway, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
the person driving up in the middle of the night | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
is not going to see them as well as they might. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
If the weather conditions are bad, there's every chance | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
that somebody could have either skidded to avoid them | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
or crashed into them. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
Only a right doughnut would do something this reckless. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
But David now had a breakthrough in the investigation. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Identifying the vehicle meant, with the help of the police, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
they could trace it to an address. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:12 | |
That's the van that we've identified | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
from the vehicle registration number. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
You can see the side of the van there, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
we're looking at the wing mirror on the driver's side | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
and it's identical. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
We looked on the back of the van | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
and you can see a distinctive sticker | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
and we could check that against the surveillance footage | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
that we had and, again, we matched the surveillance footage | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
and you can see the same sticker in the same place. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
But now there's a snag. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
The team know they have the right van, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
but without clearer surveillance footage, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
they couldn't identify a suspect. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
To get an arrest, they would have to firm up their evidence. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Time to get serious and call in the police | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and a night-time stakeout of the dumper's favourite spot. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
There was a police car at either end of one road | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
where he was dumping and he made a run for it. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
He might have done a runner, but he wasn't getting off THAT easily. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Time for reinforcements of the four-legged variety. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Obviously, we're talking about the middle of the night, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
so it was pitch-black and what the police did to capture him | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
was they brought in a police dog | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
and the police dog picked up the scent very quickly | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
and found him hiding up a tree. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Yep, you heard it right - up a tree. What a muppet! | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
With the suspect in custody, David can start the interview process | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
and, hopefully, put this case to bed. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
if you do not mention, when questioned, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
something which you later rely on in court. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you understand that? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
Yeah, why am I here? | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Well, he's about to find out. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
But even after being caught on camera | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
and then caught up a tree, this lad's still claiming he's innocent. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
-Do you own a Ford Transit van? -No, I don't. -OK. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
-Do you have access to one? -No, I don't. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
The question is, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
what was he up to in the middle of the nowhere in the dead of night? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
I've got nothing to hide. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
Basically, I've been out having a jog | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
-and basically, I've been arrested for no reason. -OK. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Well, that's a new one on David. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-How far had you jogged? -I always... I jog a couple of miles. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
I've lost a lot of weight in the last couple of months, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
so I'm jogging all the time. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
So, basically, he's claiming he's been jogging and not fly-tipping. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
You always jog at night, cross-country in the pitch dark? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
-No comment. -Did you have a torch? -No comment. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
He's not got much to say for himself | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
and, to be honest, it doesn't look like he's got a leg to stand on. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
Is it right, when you were detained, you were hiding up a tree? | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-No comment. -Up a tree? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
What's he out there doing? Pretending to be a cat? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
After the interview, he was reported for summonses | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
but we still needed to bottom out the ownership of the van, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
so we contacted a relative of his. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
It was actually his sister who was the registered owner of that van, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
and we interviewed her, regarding the van's use. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
-Do you own a van? -No comment. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
-Are you the registered owner of a van? -No comment. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
Are you likely to reply "No comment" to all questions that we put to you? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
No comment. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:17 | |
It seems like being uncooperative with the authorities | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
runs in the family but, luckily it's not good enough for the judge. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
As a result of the two interviews and the evidence that we'd gathered, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
both the suspect and his sister were both charged with the offences, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:34 | |
regarding the dumping of the tyres. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
It was sentenced at Aylesbury Crown Court | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
and they were both fined around £10,000 each to pay. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:45 | |
Ten grand each - that's a whopper of a fine! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
Hopefully, these two will think twice | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
before illegally off-loading their waste in the future. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
That's all for today. Join us again for more Dom On The Spot. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 |