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Billions of pounds' worth of our taxes should be going to the most needy.

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Trouble is, people keep stealing it.

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Welcome to the world of Saints and Scroungers.

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Saints and Scroungers puts the spotlight on benefit thieves who ruthlessly steal

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millions of pounds every year from the British taxpayer.

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And we search out the saints who help put unclaimed cash into the hands of those that need it.

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And coming up on today's programme...

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The tenant on benefits who claims there's nothing going on with her landlord,

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although the holiday snaps tell a different story.

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You wouldn't expect a normal landlord to be holidaying with their tenant.

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And we meet the saint who has transformed the lives of over 500 Parkinson's sufferers.

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I can just sit there and listen, and sometimes that can be

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as valuable to them as taking any kind of medication.

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Photographs - they're pretty important memories.

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They capture things like births, weddings and holidays.

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Sometimes they even capture things you'd rather they didn't.

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But surely if you were a benefit cheat, you wouldn't take

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photos of yourself enjoying your ill-gotten gains, would you?

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Or would you?

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Meet Marina Beddows, a 54 year-old divorcee who lives in Margate.

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She's genuinely disabled.

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She has diabetes and, after a stroke a few years ago, has problems getting around.

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So she gets £500 a week in benefits.

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Some of that money is because of her disability but some of it

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is because she's living alone and needs help to pay the rent.

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Colin Godbold is her landlord.

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He's 57, works for a coach company and also lives in Margate.

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Their relationship is strictly professional.

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Well, that's at least what they told the benefit officers, anyway.

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But an anonymous tip-off to the Department for Work and Pensions suggests that Marina and Colin

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are living together as a couple, which means she's claiming more than £70,000 she's not entitled to.

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Steve Tamsett, Fraud Service, can I help you?

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Steve Tamsett is senior fraud manager at the Department for Work and Pensions in Kent.

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Our attention was first brought to Marina Beddows and Colin Godbold

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as a result of an anonymous allegation to our benefit fraud hotline

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that Marina was not in fact renting a property from Beddows as a tenant,

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but they were in fact maintaining the household as a couple.

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Having received that information, we'll investigate all such allegations.

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Over £74 million worth of taxpayers' money is lost to what's called "living-together fraud" every year.

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It's the most common benefit scam of all, and it happens when two people who live together as a couple

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pretend they live apart so that either or both of them can claim benefits as a single person.

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This is what the anonymous tip-off was claiming Colin Godbold and Marina Beddows were doing.

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What we'd be looking for in this investigation, as Marina was

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claiming as a single person, to see really whether she was maintaining a relationship with Colin Godbold.

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By that we mean that there was some sharing of premises, sharing of responsibilities,

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sharing of financial commitments, and some relationship which is a

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long-term basis where they're going to share a life together.

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At the same time that the DWP were looking into Beddows and Godbold,

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Thanet Council were also running their own independent investigation.

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Counter fraud manager Andy Croucher was sharing information with Steve's

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team at the DWP to get to the bottom of what was going on.

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The difficulty with this case was in establishing the relationship between Mr Godbold and Mrs Beddows,

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and that that was something beyond a friendship or a landlord and tenant relationship.

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Marina Beddows was on record as living on her own in a house in Margate.

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She'd suffered from a stroke fairly early in life, and the disability was primarily that she wasn't mobile

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enough to walk any distance or to take care of herself.

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I believe she was also suffering from diabetes.

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Marina was entitled to some financial help because of her disability.

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But as a woman on her own who wasn't able to work, she could also claim

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help to pay the rent, council tax benefit and income support.

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So in total, she received £500 a week.

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Colin Godbold was on record as being Marina's landlord.

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He owned the house she lived in but claimed not to live there,

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and had a steady job working for a coach company.

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But if the two were living as a couple, Marina Beddows would only have been entitled to the

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benefits for her disability, not her housing benefit, council tax benefit or income support.

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So both the DWP and Thanet Council spring into action

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and start digging for evidence of a secret relationship.

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The team were building up a bundle of evidence relating to whether they had bank accounts,

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what ones they held jointly, what ones they held separately,

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looking at the bills relating to the property,

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who was responsible for paying them, work records for Mr Godbold and who his next of kin were declared to be.

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Several pieces of information go to building up a picture that a normal person would consider

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relevant and would point towards a couple being more a couple than just friends.

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The council possessed letters from Colin Godbold stating that he was charging Marina Beddows £95 a week.

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He lived at a different address, so everything seemed above board.

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But when the team checked out their bank accounts, it told a different story.

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We did establish that they were running joint bank accounts.

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Joint bank accounts? That's pretty unusual for a landlord and tenant.

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Sounds to me like there's a little bit more to this relationship than they were letting on.

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Investigators thought so, too.

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Having established that there was some truth in the allegation,

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we then undertook some undercover surveillance of the property.

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We'd have investigators sitting outside the property at all times of the day

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just to see who was coming and going from the property and at what times.

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The key things that our surveillance established was that Colin Godbold was at the property

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on a pretty regular basis and seemed to be moving around and conducting activities

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on the basis more of a couple than just a landlord.

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But Colin wasn't just spending a lot of time in the house.

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He was also clocking up the hours in Marina's car, which was paid for by her disability benefits.

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As I understand it, Marina Beddows had a car that she was using to help her with her mobility

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and that Colin Godbold was driving it quite frequently, which rather

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puts doubt on the suggestion that he was just a landlord.

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In fact Colin was using the car to get to work from Monday to Friday.

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But when the team followed him on some of his other journeys

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they also discovered that Colin was taking Marina's housing benefit cheques to the bank.

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He'd then withdraw the money from a cash machine.

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There was also some evidence that they were taking holidays together.

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These are details of holidays that were bought by Mrs Beddows.

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There's evidence to show in this booking that the couple booked into one room only.

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The investigators were building up all this evidence from a distance,

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with Beddows and Godbold completely unaware they were being watched.

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But all that was about to change.

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Once we had the evidence, we were in a position to authorise

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a police arrest at the property so we could search and seize any documents

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or other evidence that was there that would lend support to the fact that their relationship

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wasn't landlord of tenant but that they were in fact maintaining the household as a couple.

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Coming up, a police raid on a property provides the investigators with plenty of evidence.

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Male shirts, all male shirts...

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Next, it's farewell fraudsters and hello to the innocent people...

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our Saints...

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..those who are in genuine need of help but are too proud

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or don't know how to claim what's due to them,

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and their saintly helpers who point them in the right direction.

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Every hour, someone in the UK is told they've got Parkinson's disease.

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It's a condition that can cause shaking, involuntary movement

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or make you freeze up, and there's no known cure.

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Losing your mobility can also mean losing your independence.

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Fortunately, there are people out there who provide much-needed support.

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It's often the hardest-working people who go unnoticed, the sort of silent hero

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who doesn't do it for the money or the recognition but does it because they enjoy helping people.

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Nick Ephgrave is one of these people.

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He started working for Parkinson's UK two years ago.

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He drives around London making visits to some of the 500 people with Parkinson's on his list.

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I'm seeing a great range of people in their own home environment,

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and obviously I can see how people are coping.

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The first person Nick is off to see today is Michaela.

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She's had Parkinson's for 11 years.

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Michaela Graham-Yooll comes from Argentina

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but moved to England in 1976 with her husband and three children.

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Sadly, in 1996, her marriage ended and she's had to sell her family home.

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It was while she was moving out that she first noticed something was wrong.

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I started shaking.

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I thought it was something that, it was just to do with nerves,

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because I had a week's time to empty the whole house.

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After about a month or so,

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she decided to see a doctor, and after a lot of tests I think

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she was told she had Parkinson's disease.

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Last year, Michaela took a turn for the worse and had to go to hospital, with disastrous consequences.

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With Parkinson's, it's important to take pills

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at exact times of the day, and at home, Michaela had managed to do this.

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But it staff at the hospital decided to give out her pills while on their medical rounds,

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so they did not always come when Michaela needed them.

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And I got much worse while I was in hospital.

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Luckily, Michaela's daughter, Ines, found out about Parkinson's UK,

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and got in touch with Nick, who came to the rescue.

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She was not in a good state when I met her.

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She felt that she was kind of trapped in the hospital because she wasn't getting her medication,

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she wasn't having the proper movement she'd been used to,

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and one of the things that was happening

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was she was finding it difficult to get up to go to the loo, so she'd been placed in nappies.

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It was really quite insulting to her to be treated like that.

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She was treated as a geriatric who didn't have full control over her movements.

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We decided that the best thing to do would be to get her home as soon as possible

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and put some Social Services care

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in place until she felt well enough to be able to carry on on her own.

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The car is just up here.

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From this point on, Michaela knew she had a champion.

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For Michaela, getting less steady on her feet led to her feeling increasingly isolated.

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That is one reason why I'm going out less and less, because I'm really insecure.

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I'm scared of falling.

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But Michaela didn't just have to deal with being alone.

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She was also struggling for money.

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Apparently I was due a pension.

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I filled in the forms and sent them in, and then something was missing, so I had to start all over again.

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I think when people look at the forms

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that need to be filled in, they just seem such a mountain to climb.

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When I spoke to Mickey about her pension,

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she said that somebody from the Pensions Service had helped her before,

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but the forms had got lost in the post and they weren't giving her any follow-up help,

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so she felt she wasn't able to fill in the forms herself and then just let it go.

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I came along and contacted the Pension Service,

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got the appropriate forms and started the whole process again.

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He filled in forms for me.

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He was more effective than I had been. Other people tried to help me.

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Nick successfully secured Michaela her pension

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and four years of backdated payments on top.

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But still, he went further.

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He got her a taxi card, which gets her a cheap ride so she can do her errands.

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But it's the personal touch that means the most to people Nick helps.

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Today, he's taking Michaela to a specialist Pilates class

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for people who suffer with Parkinson's.

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The important thing is that Nick has given her independence.

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She's getting out, not feeling isolated.

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He does his work, but goes beyond what his job is, I think.

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Fraud investigators in Kent suspect that

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Colin Godbold and Marina Beddows are living together as a couple.

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There's nothing wrong with that, unless, of course, one of you

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is claiming over £70,000 in benefits that you're not entitled to.

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Godbold and Beddows were totally unaware

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that the Department for Work and Pensions and Thanet Council were investigating.

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But they were soon about to get a very early morning wake-up call.

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The fraud team were planning a police arrest and house search at 7am.

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They were hoping to catch both Marina and Colin unaware.

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The element of surprise is important,

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because there can be opportunities to come forward with different stories.

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Or indeed, to destroy the evidence that would be important to us.

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So the police arrest is a good opportunity to establish the truth

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and see exactly what's going on at the property.

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First thing in the morning, a crack team from the police,

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the DWP and Thanet Council assembled at the house

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to see if they could catch out the suspected scammers.

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On the team was a Thanet Council fraud investigator.

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Because of the covert nature of her work, we've disguised her identity.

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On the day of arrest, we met at the local police station in Margate

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at about 6 o'clock.

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We then proceeded to the property.

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Upon arriving at the property, the door was opened by Mr Godbold,

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who said that his wife was upstairs in bed, at which point Mrs Beddows

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proceeded to open an upstairs window and call down,

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asking Mr Godbold what was going on.

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His wife?

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There's a big difference between referring to someone as your tenant or your friend,

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and calling them your wife.

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The fact Mrs Beddows was upstairs and Mr Godbold answered the door

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confirmed our suspicions that they were living there as a couple.

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It was 7am. There wasn't any need for Mr Godbold to be there at that time.

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He was just getting himself ready to go to work.

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It looks like they'd caught the cheats with their pants down.

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Now they've just got to prove that this isn't just a one-off

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and that the two are living together long term.

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So a painstaking search is carried out.

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This is a police video of the search.

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It builds up a picture of what the living arrangements are

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in the property, whether they support the allegation

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that's made against the couple or whether it supports

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their own view that they're not a couple.

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Male shirts.

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All male shirts.

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Dirty basket on the landing.

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Looks like a bloke's clothing there.

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If there's an indication that there's a man living in the household,

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it's not a one-off encounter, that he's stopped overnight,

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it's clear from that that it's a fairly long-term arrangement.

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Electric shaver.

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His toiletries are in the bathroom, suggesting he's living there on a permanent basis.

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The police searched the house from top to bottom,

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and they found Marina's will,

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which included Colin Godbold as a beneficiary.

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They also found evidence that Marina wasn't as hard up as you might expect.

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During the arrest, there were two envelopes found in the property.

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One had £1,400 and the other had approximately 1,200 in.

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One of them had written on it "Marina's Holiday Fund".

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£1,400, 1,200?

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That's a lot of money to have lying around the house.

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It looks like Colin and Marina have a few pounds to spare.

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But what the police found next takes the biscuit -

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photos and video footage

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of one of the couple's luxury holidays in Orlando

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and casino capital of the world, Las Vegas.

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After the search, Marina and Colin were taken to Margate police station for questioning.

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On the day, as I understand it, Marina was not well enough

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to undertake the interview, but that was a judgment for the police

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and she was interviewed on the next day.

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But Colin Godbold was interviewed by himself,

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just to see what he had to say about these matters that we'd discovered.

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During the interview, Colin admitted that he lived at the house with Marina more than he had let on,

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which was why his bank accounts and driving licence were registered there.

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But when Colin had written letters to the council as Marina's landlord,

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they'd always been from a different address.

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The interview provided a breakthrough for the team,

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because Colin admitted he was living with Marina Beddows

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on a nearly full time basis.

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But when they called in Marina for interview six days later,

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she was insistent that there was nothing going on,

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even though Colin had referred to her as his wife.

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They claimed their relationship wasn't that of a couple,

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and that Colin was looking after Marina because of her disabilities

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and there was no relationship other than landlord and tenant.

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But although Colin had also denied they were a couple,

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the picture he painted of their life suggested otherwise.

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On the basis of the evidence, Marina's benefits were stopped.

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You'd think if fraud investigators had surveillance footage of you,

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photos of you on holiday together,

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and you'd been caught in the act defrauding the system,

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you'd hold your hands up in the air, say, "All right, it's a fair cop."

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But not Marina. She wasn't prepared to give up her benefits without a fight.

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Following the arrest and the interviews under caution

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and the benefit decision

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in which we established that there was an overpayment

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and the couple were treated as living together,

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Mrs Beddows pursued her right of appeal against that decision.

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The appeal went to a tribunal.

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All the evidence was collected up,

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witnesses called and a statement issued in which Beddows stated

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that they had never been members of the same household,

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and that the four joint accounts they shared were just to make her life easier.

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I was surprised that Mrs Beddows had appealed,

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having been aware of the amount of evidence

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the authority had gathered in support of the decision that it had made.

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Throughout the course of the tribunal,

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she was adamant that there was no relationship between them.

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It did seem strange that she was sticking to her original story.

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At the tribunal, all the evidence was laid out.

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The discovery of Colin's stuff throughout the house during the search.

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Male shirts,

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all male shirts.

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Colin referring to Marina as his wife.

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The shared holiday.

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The joint bank accounts.

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And Colin's use of Marina's car for work.

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They even called in an ex-carer

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who alleged that she had seen Colin and Marina in bed together.

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Sometimes people explore every avenue available to them.

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There was a possibility that the tribunal may decide in her favour.

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In my experience, given the evidence that we had,

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that was always going to be unlikely.

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The appeal at the tribunal failed.

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The next stop for the couple was court,

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and a date was set for February 2010 at Canterbury Crown Court.

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The system was defrauded to the extent of £70,000 on income support,

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housing benefit and council tax benefit.

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This money really is due to people who are properly entitled to it,

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the most vulnerable in society.

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So £70,000 were stolen from people who should have received this money.

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But Colin Godbold and Marina Beddows didn't get away with it.

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They both pleaded guilty for their part in scrounging:

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..from 2002 to 2007.

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In total:

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Marina Beddows was sentenced to...

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Colin Godbold received...

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And the conning couple also have to pay back all the money they owe.

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And with that kind of debt to repay,

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I doubt they'll be jetting off to the States any time soon.

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I was happy with the outcome, in that we'd seen the case to conclusion

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and we'd established that there was a fraud.

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I think people sometimes think they won't be caught.

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The likelihood is that they will be caught, because we do have

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a number of investigators who are very highly trained,

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who will use sophisticated techniques, including interrogating bank accounts

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and using undercover surveillance, to try and bring people to justice.

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