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This programme tracks down thieves. It exposes fraudsters and it brings help to those who really deserve it. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
This is the front line in the battle against benefit fraud. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
This is Saints And Scroungers. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Saints And Scroungers is all about busting benefit thieves who steal | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
millions every year and the crack teams of investigators | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
determined to scupper their devious scams. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
And we also shine a light on those who genuinely need the money | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
and the people who help them get it. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
They are our saints. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
The saints get help and the fraudsters get their comeuppance. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Coming up on today's show, the single mum on benefits. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
But is she living a double life? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
It was pretty evident that she was committing | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
what we call a living together fraud. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Will fraud investigators see through the lies? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I've never heard of an excuse like it so no, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
we didn't accept what she said. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
We meet a woman who's worked for 20 years but now can't get hired. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
I thought that with the years' experience I'd got, I would not have a problem getting a job. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
After almost two years unemployed, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
find out how her life is turned around by a local saint. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
The following week, when I actually applied for the jobs, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
out of the four that I applied for, I got two responses. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
If you're an unemployed single parent living on your own, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
the benefit system is there to help you. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
But if you are living with a partner who is working and helping to pay the bills, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
you might not be entitled to dip your fingers into the taxpayers' pot. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
Not that that seems to stop some people, though. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Croydon, south London, home to Maria Blyth. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Maria is an unemployed single mum. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
So, as taxpayers, we all help her out with income support, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
housing benefit and council tax benefit. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
On average, single mothers receive an extra £100 per week | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
compared to couples with children, which should mean that Maria | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and her son don't suffer undue hardship. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
But the shadow of suspicion has fallen on Maria | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
because officials at the council think her claim | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
might not be all that it seems. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Over at Croydon Council, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
David Hogan runs the fraud investigation Department. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
How many people live in Croydon? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
The population of Croydon is currently about 350,000. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
How many of them are on benefits? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
-Just over 42,000 people are in receipt of benefits in Croydon. -OK. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
Quite a lot. Give me an idea of how much payout that is a year. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Erm... For last year, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
we paid out a total of £255 million in benefit in Croydon alone. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
So the more we can do about fraud, the better it is for the taxpayer. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
Croydon Council can't be sure exactly how much money | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
they lose through fraudulent claims each year. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
But they are pretty certain that the £1.3 million recouped by the antifraud department last year | 0:03:12 | 0:03:18 | |
is likely to be just the tip of the iceberg, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
which is why they take the business of fraud investigation so seriously. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
We've got ten staff here who work solely on antifraud activity. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
-Purely dedicated to that? -Purely just working on antifraud. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
And, they leave no stone unturned. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
It was another Government department that alerted David | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
and his team to the fact that Maria Blyth's benefit claim | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
might not be above board. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
What brought Maria Blyth to your attention? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
The case of Maria Blyth came to us via an anonymous tipoff | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
to the Department of Work and Pensions hotline. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
An average of almost 700 possible benefit cheats are reported | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
to the National Benefit Fraud Hotline every day. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Many of these get passed on to local councils. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Croydon Council investigate as many suspect cases as they can | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
in the hope of clawing back taxpayers' money. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
David passed the case on to investigating officer Graham Clark. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
It's his mission in life to bust the benefit cheats. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
He started by going back through Maria Blyth's claims history. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
We discovered that she began claiming income support as far back as 1999. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
Her claim for housing and council tax benefit began in 2002 | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
and carried on through until 2007. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
On all her claim forms that she had completed, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
she stated she was a single parent and did not have a partner living with her. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
On the face of it, it's a perfectly normal claim, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
except that the anonymous tipoff received by the DWP suggested | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
that Maria Blyth was not actually single, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
but was in fact living with her partner Kevin West. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
Graham needed to dig deeper to find out more. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
His first step was to identify the father of Maria's child | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and find out more about his circumstances. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
We made enquiries with the registry office | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
to establish who the father was. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
We obtained a copy of the birth certificate which clearly | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
showed that both Maria and Kevin registered the birth together | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
and that they had both given the same address. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
So, when her son was born, single mum Maria appeared to have been | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
living with the father of her child and that man was Kevin West. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
But that was 16 years ago and of course, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
it was entirely possible that their relationship had now broken down. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Graham needed to find out whether Kevin West was living | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
at Maria's current address which was on Crowley Crescent in Croydon. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Because if he was, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
Maria might be carrying out what's known as a living together fraud. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
It's the most common type of benefit fraud. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Claiming as a single person when really, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
you're living with a partner. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
It's costing you and me, the taxpayer, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
more than £74 million a year. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
The definition of living together fraud | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
is that for benefit purposes, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
any two people that are living together as a couple, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
whether they're married or not, should be treated as a couple, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
and that any earnings or capital that the partner has | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
is taken into account when assessing the benefit. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Sharing a life with someone usually means you're sharing their income | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
which is why their earnings and savings | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
as well as your own are taken into account when assessing for benefits. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
If two people are living a shared life, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
there is a trail of evidence waiting to be found | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
which fraud investigators have extensive powers to uncover. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
We did a credit history check on Kevin West | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
and we found a number of occasions | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
where he had made financial applications | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
for banking purposes | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
and had quoted Crowley Crescent as being his home address. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
So, Kevin was using Maria's Croydon address | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
on official application forms, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
and presumably, he was expecting his mail to arrive there, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
which must have been inconvenient if he wasn't actually resident. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But that wasn't all Graham found out about Kevin West. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
He made enquiries with a local health trust and strangely, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
it wasn't just Maria Blyth who was registered with the local doctor. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Kevin was also registered at the same surgery | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
and indeed had given Crowley Crescent as his address. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
So far, there wasn't much evidence that Kevin West lived | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
anywhere other than at Crowley Crescent. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
And Maria Blyth's car insurance document | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
proved to be an even bigger giveaway. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
The car was registered to Maria but Kevin West was named as a co-driver. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
Once again, the paper trail led straight to Crowley Crescent. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
We obtained a copy of the proposal form for the insurance | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
which clearly stated that they were living at Crowley Crescent | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
and indeed, that their marital status was as a common law couple. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
In fact, even Kevin West's driving licence showed that he was living at Crowley Crescent. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
Investigators were now pretty convinced that Maria Blyth | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
was lying about her single mum status. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
It was pretty evident that she was committing what we call a living together fraud | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
and had not declared that Kevin was part of her household. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
It's not looking good for Maria Blyth. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
She told the Department for Work and Pensions and Croydon Council that she's a single parent | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
and they're paying her housing benefit and income support on that basis. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
But it's starting to look like she's about a single as a double malt. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
The fraud team had plenty of written evidence | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
but they needed more. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
It was time for Graham to get out of the office and hunt for some clues on the ground. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
In the course of his enquiries, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Graham had found out that Kevin West used to work for a garage called Queen's Motors. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
Queen's Motors told us that he'd recently left the company | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
but they were able to confirm that he had given Crowley Crescent to them as his address | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
and had named Maria Blyth as an emergency contact | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
and next of kin. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
They were also able to tell us that he had | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
previously worked for Arriva Buses before joining Queen's. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:45 | |
We then approached Arriva | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
who gave us Crowley Crescent as his address, as well. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
Once again, Kevin West's previous address was confirmed as being the same as Maria Blyth's. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:56 | |
But the investigators still needed to find out where he was working now | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
and to prove, once and for all, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
that he was still living with Maria Blyth. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
And the best way to do that would be to catch them red-handed. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
It was time for Graham to take his investigation up to the next level. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
'Coming up later, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
'the paper trail brings positive proof that Maria Blyth is lying...' | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-At this point, you've got them bang to rights. -We have. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-There's no argument for that. -No. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
'..as investigators turn to surveillance to help close the case.' | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Having established that pattern, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
that, in effect, was the final piece in the jigsaw. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
For now, it's farewell to the fraudsters | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
and hello to the people we call our saints - those who are in genuine need of help | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
but are too proud or don't know how to claim what is rightfully theirs, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
and the people who point them in the right direction. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
With nearly 40 years' retail experience behind her, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Sandra Morgan thought when she lost her job at a convenience store | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
that she'd easily find another one. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
It wasn't as easy as she thought. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Sandra found herself out of work in 2009 | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and spent months trawling through job listings, handing out her CV | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and applying for any job she could find. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
But she just couldn't get a break. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
I actually put it down to my age. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
And it's now generally accepted, even at the Jobcentre, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
that two types of people struggle the most | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
and that is the school leavers and the over 50s. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Sandra was very depressed about her situation. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
She was now living in a one-room bedsit | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
and surviving on just £30 a week. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
But she had been offered a glimmer of hope when guidance worker Liz Fraser | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
from the charity Ascend appeared as the saint in her life. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
She put Sandra's name forward for a special course. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
Liz called me in and said, we think it would be quite good for you | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
to actually become part of the Flexible Routeway. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
The Flexible Routeway scheme helps people like Sandra | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
to get back into work | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
by providing them with training, support and advice. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
It's paid for from the UK's £2.5 billion share | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
of the European Social Fund. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
All European taxpayers contribute to the fund which aims to help | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
create jobs across the EU. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
And in the current job market, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
it's more important than ever to stand out from the crowd. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
There's a lot of people out there looking for the same jobs. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
You've got people at the upper end of the scale trying to take the middle market | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
so it's difficult for people coming from the other end. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Sandra completed the course which improved her IT skills | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
and gave her more confidence. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
But the job market was so tough that she still hadn't managed to find work by the end of it. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
Liz had suggested in the past that Sandra should also consider | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
taking on some voluntary work. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
They said it would look good on your CV | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
because one of the biggest problems with a CV | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
is that companies don't like gaps. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
But it took them an awful long time to get me on that side | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
because I did not want to work for nothing. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
I was living on peanuts and thought, why should I give my time | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
and not get any financial aid back to make my life a little bit better? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
But with the patience of a saint, Liz kept on pushing and eventually, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
she managed to convince Sandra that working for nothing | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
might be better than not working at all. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
It was really important for Sandra to take up something that | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
would create a positive atmosphere for her and give her hope. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
As luck would have it, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
a new local work skills project called Step Up was just starting, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
and they needed volunteers. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Sandra put herself forward and was taken on. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
It might not have been a paid job but it was a job nonetheless. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Sandra was thrilled to be back in an office. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Step Up Learning and Wellbeing Centre, Sandra speaking. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
I found that the phone ringing, people knocking on the door - | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
it was really good. It got me excited again. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
It didn't matter to me | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
I wasn't going to get paid at the end of the week. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
Thanks to Liz, Sandra had reached a real turning point. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
She updated her CV to show that she was now volunteering | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
and carried on applying for jobs. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
Then, something amazing happened. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
The following week when I actually applied for jobs, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
out of the four I applied for, I got two responses. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
I thought, "I don't believe this." | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Although Sandra didn't get those jobs, she was hugely encouraged | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
that employers were now taking more of an interest in her. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
With the volunteering on my CV, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
I applied for a job | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
at the beginning of September. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
I received a response within 24 hours. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
I had an interview within 48 hours | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and the next day I was offered the job. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Sandra was delighted. As was her adviser, Liz. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
I feel very proud of Sandra | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
because even though she didn't think she had the skills, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
actually they were there all the time. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
She found it again and came out well in the end | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
so I am very proud of her. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
As for Sandra, there's only one word for her reaction. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
Gobsmacked! | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
I thought, I have spent nearly two my years of my life being depressed, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
bored, pulling my hair out. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
When maybe if I had listened to those words of wisdom from Liz, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
I would have got a job much sooner. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
There was just one small spanner in the works. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Sandra's new job was in London, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
an expensive train ride away from her home in South Oxhey. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
Once the elation had passed that I had got the job, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
I then suddenly realised, how was I going to afford to get to London? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Although Ascent couldn't help Sandra, they put her in contact with | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
a government-funded recruitment service called Ingeus. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
They have access to a new government budget that's been set aside | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
to help with the common problem of people being offered jobs | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
but then not being able to afford to travel to work. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Sandra told them about her predicament. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I said, "I've gone through everything | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
"and the cheapest way is an Oyster Card, £50 a week." | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I said, "It's monthly pay so it's going to be £200 | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
"that I'm going to need." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
Ingeus were able to offer Sandra a one-off payment of £200. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
They also helped her work out that she's entitled to £25 a week | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
of working tax credit, which she can put towards her Oyster Card. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
So, she was finally all set for her first day back. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Did I feel good that morning when I could say, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
"I'm going to work." | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
Sandra is now a supermarket sampling ambassador | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
and that's quite a job title. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
It means she stands in store | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
offering free samples of various goodies to passing shoppers. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Not only is she loving it, but she seems to be a natural. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
I was nervous about coming back to work but also | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
because it's a job that I hadn't done before. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Had I lost my touch? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Would I not be able to make people come over and sample? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Would I not be able to make them laugh in a conversation? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
But Sandra needn't have worried | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
because the old magic has come flooding back | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
and Sandra hasn't forgotten the debt she owes to Ascent. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
As her job at the supermarket is Tuesday to Saturday, she still | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
goes into Ascent and volunteers as a receptionist every Monday. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
I can't thank Ascent enough. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
Where I am now is all because of them and it's not just the name, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
it's the people there. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
All of them are there for you and they will always be there for you. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
I am over the moon. I can't be as happy as I am coming out to work. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
And in all honesty, I'm even happier on payday. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Because it's a lot different from the benefit pay. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Hello, young man. Would you like to try? | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Well, Sandra's back to her cheerful self and in a job that she loves. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
It's good to see that there are organisations | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
and people out there like Liz, who could help put your life | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
back on track and start enjoying yourself again. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Back now to the scroungers and the spotlight of suspicion | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
has fallen on unemployed single mum-of-one, Maria Blyth. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
She claims income support, housing benefit | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
and council tax benefit as a single person. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The trouble is, Croydon Council suspect she's not single at all. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
They've been passed an anonymous tip-off from | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
the Department for Work and Pensions. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Hundreds of benefit cheats are now being shopped in every single week. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Why do you think you get so many anonymous tip-offs, then? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
I think it's just the public are very aware of benefit fraud | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
and, of course, it's everybody's taxes that go towards paying | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
other people's benefits. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:08 | |
Investigator Graham has already carried out background checks | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
into Kevin West. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
He's the father of Maria Blyth's son and Graham suspects | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
he's been living with them in the family home, which would mean | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
that single mum Maria isn't quite as single as she's making out. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
The credit checks that we ran on Kevin, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
we found that he had a bank account | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
and this clearly shows that when he opened the account, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
he gave Crowley Crescent as his address. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Banks are quite thorough in their credit checks | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
because of money laundering and things like that, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-so they were convinced he lived there. -Absolutely. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Anybody that opens a bank account, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
they would be asking for other documentation as proof of address. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Totally. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
Kevin West's not short of documentation | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
showing proof of his address. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
After all, it's on his driving licence, car insurance policy | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and job references. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
He doesn't seem worried about revealing it to lenders either. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
He also applied to the same institution for a loan | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
and again, gave Crowley Crescent as his address. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
-The loan was approved? -Yes. -Not idiots, are they? -Absolutely not. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
-At this point, you've got them bang to rights? -We have. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
There's no argument, but how long have they been getting away with it? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
They've been getting away with it, for some five or six years, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
since 2002 through to 2007, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
when we launched the investigation. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
It looks like Maria has been fraudulently claiming | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
housing benefit, council tax benefit | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
and income support as a single mum for more than five years. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
To prove the case beyond all doubt, Graham decided it was time | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
to put Maria Blyth and Kevin West under surveillance. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Local authorities are allowed to use surveillance to help tackle fraud, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
under something called the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
which was introduced in 2000 to fight crime and terrorism. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
We say surveillance, that is such a powerful word. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
When you suspect something's wrong and you get permission, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
can you and your guys literally go out there | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
and secretly film someone day or night, whatever they're doing? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
That's exactly what we do. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
You are right, it's a process that's very regulated so we have | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
to think very hard about if that's the appropriate thing to do. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
With all the legal boxes ticked, Graham had the green light to | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
start recording Maria Blyth and Kevin West's daily activities. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
He was hoping to get the crucial evidence | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
he needed of Kevin West leaving Maria Blyth's property. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
It didn't take long to strike gold. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
We conducted surveillance, every morning, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
over a period of three or four weeks. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
We saw both Maria and Kevin leaving the property | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
on a regular basis at around about 7 o'clock each morning | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
and that established a pattern that he was here | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and eventually we followed them to work and it transpired | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Maria was giving him a lift to work each morning. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Bingo. All this time, Maria had been claiming to live as a single mother, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
yet investigators had seen and documented her driving | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
the father of her son to work every day. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Having established that pattern, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
that in effect was the final piece in the jigsaw and proved our case. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
After that, we invited her in for an interview. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Maria Blyth had some explaining to do. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Officers invited her to an interview under caution, where they put the allegation to her | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
that she was not actually a single mother. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Throughout the interview, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
she maintained she was a single parent. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
When I put the surveillance evidence to her, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
the excuse that she gave was that Kevin just turned up, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
out of the blue and asked for a lift and she didn't question him | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
as to where he had come from or where he wanted to go. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
You'd have to say it's pretty unusual to be living alone | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
and yet still leave the house at the same time every morning, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
with the same person and drive them to work. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Investigator Graham wasn't fooled, either. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I've never heard an excuse like it so, no, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
we didn't accept what she said. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Maria's explanation was plainly a pack of lies. But if Kevin | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
wasn't living at Crowley Crescent, where did he call home? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
Maria came up with three possible addresses for him. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
She said that he either resided with a friend in Croydon, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
or with two family members in Birmingham. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
I asked Birmingham City Council to check those out | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
but it transpired that Kevin was not known at either of those addresses. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
With the Birmingham addresses ruled out, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
investigators decided to pay a visit to the friend | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
Kevin was supposed to be staying with in Croydon. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
We went round to see this friend, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
who told us that he was not friends with Kevin. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
He only knew Kevin because he drank in the same pub. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
It wasn't just a lie about a supposed friendship | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
that Kevin was trying to engineer. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
What we found out was that, days after the interview, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:34 | |
Kevin had approached this person and asked him to lie | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
to the investigation and state that Kevin did reside there. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
From that, it was clear that Maria had told Kevin | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
that she'd been interviewed and they were under investigation. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
The plot thickens. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
It seems Kevin West had an inkling that fraud investigators | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
were on to him and his partner's dodgy dealings | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
and that the net was closing in on them. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
His attempts to give himself an alibi had fallen apart | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
under proper scrutiny. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Time to speak to the man himself. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
In April 2008, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
officers called Kevin West in for an interview under caution. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
They asked him whether he was living with Maria Blyth and guess what he said? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
He denied totally that he had lived there. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Indeed, attempted to give the same addresses that he had lived at | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
despite the fact that we had already disproved those addresses. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
With the evidence investigators had collected, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
even the most convincing denial just wouldn't wash. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Maria Blyth and Kevin West were both charged with deceiving | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
the benefits authorities into believing she was a single parent, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
when in fact they were living together off Kevin West's income. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
They appeared at Croydon Crown Court on 8th July 2011, | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
where, in the light of all the evidence against them, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
they finally acknowledged the game was up and pleaded guilty. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
In total, Maria had stolen over £60,000 in benefits | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
over a five-year period. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Kevin West was sentenced to eight months' imprisonment | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
for his part in the fraud while Maria Blyth got 12 months | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
in jail for failing to inform the Department for Work and Pensions | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
of her real circumstances. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
They will have to pay back all the money they wrongfully claimed. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
It's another great result for the fraud team at Croydon Council and | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
one that sends a clear signal to all would-be benefit thieves out there. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
It would take the average taxpayer working full-time more than | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
two years to earn what Blyth and West stole in benefits. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
If you lie to authorities and take money that is not | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
rightfully yours, sooner or later, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
the fraud investigators are going to track you down. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
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