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Billions of pounds of our taxes should be going to the people

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that really need it, but the trouble is, people keep stealing it.

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Welcome to the world of Saints and Scroungers.

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Saints and Scroungers is all about busting benefit thieves

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who steal millions every year, and the crack team of investigators

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determined to scupper their devious scams.

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And we also shine a light on those who genuinely need the money

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and the people who help them get it. They are our saints.

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The saints get help and the fraudsters get their comeuppance!

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Coming up on today's show -

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the single mother on benefits with expensive taste in motors.

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-What car are we talking about?

-It was an Audi.

-What sort?

-An Audi TT.

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But with fraud investigators in the driving seat,

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will her claims come crashing down?

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She'd actually told the letting agent that she was employed

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as a model, earning £25,000 a year.

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One family's tragic experience with epilepsy.

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I was told that it would not be advisable for her to be left alone

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with a child now.

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Will a saint be able to supply some much needed support?

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Living on your own with kids is going to be tough

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at the best of times,

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and that's where benefits can really offer you a helping hand.

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But if you can afford a fancy convertible like this,

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do you really deserve government handouts?

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Claire Evans is a 32-year-old mother-of-two from Bristol.

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As she doesn't work, she claims Jobseekers Allowance

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from the Department for Work and Pensions, and receives housing

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and council tax benefit from South Gloucestershire Council.

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Which means Claire and her kids shouldn't suffer undue hardship,

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but the council have started to suspect that Claire Evans

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might have more money than she's letting on.

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In fact, they think she may have claimed more than £62,000

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in benefits she isn't entitled to.

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Every council has a fraud investigations unit

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whose job it is to track down benefit cheats.

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The crack team at South Gloucestershire Council

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is led by Jude Bevan.

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Tell me about South Gloucestershire.

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South Gloucestershire, we have an area with about 250,000 residents

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and about 109,000 properties.

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We have both urban and rural areas.

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And of those residents, how many of them are on benefits?

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We are round about 16,700 individual claimants at the moment.

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Every council has a fraud department that tries to reclaim money

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that shouldn't be claimed in the first place.

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How much did you get last year?

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Last year, including other DWP benefits,

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it was around about £500,000.

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-Half a million pounds?

-Yes.

-Lot of dough!

-It is a lot.

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Was that an increase on the year before?

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-It increases every year.

-They do a good job, then?

-They do an incredibly good job.

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Claire Evans first came to the attention of Jude's fraud team in 2009.

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She had been claiming benefits with no questions asked,

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but officers from South Gloucestershire Council

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decided to pay her an unannounced visit.

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All councils do this from time to time.

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Why do you do these visits?

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We want to ensure that people are claiming the correct amount

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of benefits, so we will review X percentage of claims

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to ensure that the details we hold are correct.

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There's two elements to these visits, isn't there? You're catching people who shouldn't be claiming,

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-but there's people who aren't claiming enough.

-Exactly.

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It's like a benefit health check to ensure that people

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are claiming enough benefits that they're entitled to,

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or they may overlook telling us about changed circumstances

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and it gives them an opportunity to do that.

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The council didn't initially think there was anything suspect about Claire's claim,

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but when they paid a visit to the home she was renting

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in 2010, someone else answered the door to say she had gone on holiday.

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-That triggers another unannounced visit?

-Yes, we would undertake another unannounced visit,

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and on the second visit, Miss Evans wasn't there and neither was anybody else.

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The officers decide to make another visit,

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hoping it might be third time lucky.

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But once again, Claire Evans wasn't home.

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Now, of course, at this point,

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she's registering that she's unemployed and a single mother.

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-Mm-hmm.

-So you'd expect her to be at home.

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She might have been out shopping, but three times and she's not in?

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The beacon must flash at that point.

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The visiting officer did have heightened suspicion, yes.

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We call it a gut feeling. Every visiting officer has a gut feeling if something isn't quite correct.

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And it wasn't just the fact that Claire Evans seems never to be

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at home that was heightening suspicion.

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The lady herself might not have been around,

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but her car was generally parked outside the house.

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-What car are we talking about?

-It was an Audi.

-What sort?

-An Audi TT.

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-Don't tell me convertible.

-It was, yes.

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Now that's new, that would cost someone about £30,000.

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Not the sort of car you would expect somebody who's unemployed to own,

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but it could've belonged to someone else.

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It could've belonged to someone else, yes,

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but during the investigation the fraud team went out a number of times

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and the car was always there.

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Officers had something of a mystery on their hands,

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so they decided to pass the case onto the council's senior

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fraud investigator, who needs to remain anonymous.

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The Benefits Department say to you that one of their claimants

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has got this expensive car in the driveway.

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How can you be sure that person actually owns that car?

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What we will do, and what we did in this case, is to drive by

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the address two or three times just to make sure the car

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is there all the time, so it's not a visitor's or somebody who has left it temporarily.

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-But that's still not concrete proof, is it?

-No, no, not at all.

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Having established that we think it's probably there regularly, if not, permanently,

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we will then contact the DVLA and find out the registered keeper.

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-What came back, then? Show me.

-What we've got here is, as you can see,

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-it says "Reply to DVLA Enquiry" at the top.

-Yeah.

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And it shows that the car we're interested in,

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-the car we've seen at the address, is an Audi TT.

-Yep.

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In white, and she only bought it in October 2010.

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-That's right.

-Her name, her address, yeah.

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No previous keepers. So it was bought from brand new.

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So Claire Evans has a taste for very expensive wheels.

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Nothing wrong with that, but how does a single mother,

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who's living on benefits, afford a jam jar of this calibre?

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She shouldn't have been able to afford that

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-if her claim had been genuine.

-Correct.

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How can you find out how she's paying for it?

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We did a credit check.

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We have access here, online, to a credit reference agency

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and we can carry out a credit check.

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Credit reference agencies are commercial companies

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which compile information about people's credit history.

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They get their information from sources including

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the electoral roll, county court judgements,

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and financial institutions.

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Someone's credit history lists all their credit accounts,

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including their credit limit

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and whether they have missed any payments.

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It also records the name of their current account provider.

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Lenders and other agencies can buy this information for a small fee.

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What this showed initially was that Claire had at least one large loan

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that she was servicing.

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Claire Evans had borrowed a large sum of money, presumably,

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to pay for her car.

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But how does someone surviving on benefits manage to get

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such a large amount of credit?

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Investigators decided to get a full credit history

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going back several years,

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to see what else she might have been spending her cash on.

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Is that the only car she's bought while on benefits?

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We found she'd bought two or three over the past four or five years.

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In actual fact, the details of one of them are here.

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As you can see, this one was purchased back in October 2005.

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It's got her name and address at the top there.

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It's an Audi TT Roadster again, erm,

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with 3600 miles on the clock at that time.

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-So, virtually new.

-Indeed. And she paid £25,500 for it.

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Wow!

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This unemployed mum has spent over 50 grand on luxury cars

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in just five years, and the fraud investigators can smell a rat.

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-So what happened next?

-We approached the bank,

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we identified five bank accounts that she held

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-and we got the details back from the bank, going back several years.

-Yes.

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And that showed us that she'd had a large amount of unexplained

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deposits to one account in particular, over about four years.

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So a four year period, give or take,

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and how much has she put in, in total?

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Well, in total, these payments,

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which exclude benefits payments I should point out, all of these

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are credits to her account that we don't know where they came from.

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And they total £65,626.

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'Investigators now knew something wasn't right.'

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Meanwhile, Claire Evans finally broke cover.

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She seemed to be avoiding investigators

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but, perhaps, she realised that sooner or later she was going

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to have to talk to them.

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She did contact the office when she didn't want a visit

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because she stated there had been a family bereavement,

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so the visiting officer then did make an appointment with her

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for a couple of weeks later, after the alleged family bereavement.

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The council finally got to talk to Claire Evans face-to-face.

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What happened when the visiting officer went?

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When she went round and undertook the visit,

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she did find Miss Evans to be quite nervous

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and didn't really want a visiting officer in the property.

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With 65 grand and a luxury car on her driveway,

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it's not surprising Claire Evans was feeling a bit nervous

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about a visit from fraud investigators.

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It was already obvious that something dodgy was going on with

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Claire Evans' benefits claim, and as we find out later,

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officers were even more puzzled about the source

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of the payments into her account.

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And you will see that a lot of these items are listed as foreign items,

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which didn't mean anything to us at the time.

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For now, it's farewell to the fraudsters

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and hello to the people we call our saints,

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those who are in genuine need of help, but are too proud,

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or don't know how to claim what is rightfully theirs.

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And the people who point them in the right direction.

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As newlyweds, it's tempting to start planning your future.

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Trouble is, you can't always tell what's just around the corner.

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Imagine experiencing the very best day of your life,

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and then, the very worst day,

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all in the space of just two weeks.

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That's just what happened to Wayne and Michelle Lambert from Suffolk.

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Like most first-time parents, they were over the moon

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when they had their baby boy, Jake.

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But just 11 days later,

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Michelle suffered a life-threatening epileptic seizure.

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I came home,

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and I opened the front door,

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and I could tell straight away she was in a fit.

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So, went into the front room, and saw Michelle on the sofa,

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in a full-blown fit, with Jake actually resting on her chest.

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He was sound asleep.

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I then picked him up, and put Jake into his car seat...

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and called for the ambulance, and got hold of Michelle's mum and dad,

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got hold of my mum.

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I raced up to the flat to be able to look after Jake.

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But...

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it was so quick, and so frightening.

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A few minutes later, the paramedics turned up, and that was it.

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We were straight off, up to the hospital.

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Michelle recovered, but suffering the epileptic seizure was a double blow.

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She sustained some minor damage to her brain,

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but being in hospital for ten days meant she had to be separated from her newborn baby.

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It affected her memory a little bit.

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But it knocked her confidence with looking after Jake quite a bit.

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We then started getting that back,

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and she was then a lot more happy with Jake,

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and the bond was coming back properly as well.

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It soon became obvious that life would have to change fundamentally

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when Michelle's doctors delivered some harsh news to Wayne.

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I was told that...

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..it would not be advisable for her to be left alone with a child now.

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So I then took that as a decision to stop work,

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to look after the pair of them.

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It was a huge decision for Wayne to have to take.

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He had worked since leaving school and had never claimed benefits,

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Now, he had to face not only looking after his wife and new baby,

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but also living on much less money.

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Financially was fairly hard.

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All we were getting, basically, was Disability Living Allowance for Michelle...

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and Carer's Allowance for myself,

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and Michelle's maternity pay,

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as she was technically still on maternity leave.

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And that was basically all we were getting,

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so from going from nearly £2,000 a month...

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down to about £840 a month

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was not very good at all.

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As the months passed, things started to look up for the Lambert family.

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After a very stressful time,

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Wayne was hoping that Michelle would be able to make a full recovery

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and he would be able to go back to work.

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The future was looking pretty good.

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I was actually considering looking for...

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OK, not a full-time job,

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but perhaps going back part-time.

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OK, I was still the main carer for Michelle at the time...

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but I was then thinking,

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"Well, perhaps after Christmas, I'd start looking for a part-time job".

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But Wayne's optimism was short-lived.

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In October that year, when Jake was just six months old,

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Michelle suffered another epileptic seizure.

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Wayne found her after she and Jake had turned in for an early night.

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I could hear a funny noise in the bedroom.

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So I poked my head in,

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and she was actually in a full-blown, major seizure.

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Jake was just sitting up in his cot as if to say,

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"Well, what's happening?"

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Michelle pulled through but nothing was going to be the same again.

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Michelle had epilepsy since the age of 14

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but this was the biggest seizure she'd ever experienced.

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Her memory had been damaged beyond repair.

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We'd go into the Co-op, she'd see some people who she knew

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and she'd realise who they were but as soon as she walked out the shop,

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by the time she's walked out the shop,

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she wouldn't even remember seeing anybody in there.

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She wouldn't even remember being in the shop.

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Wayne was forced to give up his well-paid job

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in order to stay at home and look after Michelle

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and their baby son Jake.

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If I had the chance to go back to some work I would do, even now,

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but I know, at the moment, it's not possible

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because Michelle and Jake need me to be at home.

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On top of learning how to adapt to Michelle's increased care needs,

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Wayne was also struggling financially.

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No longer able to go out to work,

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the whole family was surviving on just £800 a month

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of Disability Living Allowance and Carer's Allowance.

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But, fortunately,

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the Lamberts had been put in touch with local charity Home Start.

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Home Start is a family support charity.

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There's approximately 300 schemes across the UK.

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And schemes support families for lots of different reasons.

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Our volunteers visit families once a week.

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They support them for about two to three hours, providing what the family need.

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So, it may be some help going out to a group,

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maybe a parent and toddler group.

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It may be doing some shopping.

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It may be sitting down and having a cup of tea and a chat.

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Whatever's needed.

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Since Michelle's second seizure, Home Start had matched

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the Lambert family with a new volunteer called Lynette.

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And she was determined to give them as much help as she could.

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Initially, I came and I supported Wayne just by being a listening ear.

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Someone for him to talk to,

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helping him, really, deal with things day to day.

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Deal with some of those initial stresses.

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Look at how he was managing family life.

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And, perhaps, give him a little bit of a break as well, sit and play

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and interact with Jake.

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And help him out where I could.

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-Rabbit kicks.

-Kicks, kicks.

-Turns.

-Turns, yeah.

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For Wayne, who was struggling with depression

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and desperately trying to come to terms with his new situation,

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this time to himself was crucial.

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There were times I used to just go out for a nice walk

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and just to get some fresh air or if there was something

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which I needed to do on the car I'd then go out and do that.

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It meant I could actually stay a lot calmer

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and I weren't getting quite so stressed.

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And I was able just, basically, to relax

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and do the things which I like doing.

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Wayne's financial worries were also really adding to his depression.

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Fortunately, Home Start also have a programme which they call Maximising Income

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which is intended to help people find out

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exactly what benefits they are entitled to.

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Lynette realised that the Lamberts were struggling for cash.

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So, she carried out a benefits check for them.

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I could see quite quickly that Wayne was entitled to Income Support

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and that was something that Wayne wasn't aware of.

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And it also identified the fact

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that he was entitled to Child Tax Credits as well.

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So, that was quite a difference per month to this family.

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It was great news for Wayne that his family would be able

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to get some more financial support.

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I was quite surprised that, cos I was actually entitled

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not only to Income Support but to Child Tax Credits, Child Benefit and,

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I think, we managed to get Michelle's DLA up as well to high rate care.

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It's actually really helped us out with all that.

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It's boosted our finances up from about £800

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to, I think, it's nearly £1300-£1400 a month.

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It means all the bills are paid,

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I can also feed the family with no problems whatsoever.

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Basically, I don't have to worry too much about money now.

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Thanks to Home Start helping him find out what benefits

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he was entitled to, Wayne now feels that he can stay at home

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with his family for as long as they need him.

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And another Home Start initiative,

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the weekly family group has also proven invaluable

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in helping Michelle and Jake to strengthen their relationship.

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-You go off and play, darling. There's a good boy. See you later.

-OK.

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Michelle and Jake are able to spend some time together,

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playing, having some fun.

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At home Jake has Dad and likes to play with Dad

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but here it's, Michelle can have some bonding time with him.

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Wayne has also noticed that attending the group

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is really helping Jake and Michelle rebuild their relationship.

0:19:290:19:34

The bond is now starting to come back nice and strong.

0:19:340:19:37

Jake is actually going to Michelle a lot more.

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He realises, now, that is his mum.

0:19:410:19:43

Michelle's now getting to grips with the fact

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that, yeah, she is his mum as well. And able to help out.

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OK, it's still with a lot of prompting but it is starting

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to get there and she is starting to enjoy being a mother again.

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Michelle will probably never recover from the brain injury she suffered

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during her last epileptic seizure.

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But thanks to Home Start and Lynette, in particular,

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the Lambert family are now getting the financial

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and emotional support they need.

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Where we're at now is we're nice and comfortable,

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we're financially stable.

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Health wise, my health has benefited from it.

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I'm not quite so stressed

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and I'm able to do a lot more with Jake as well as Michelle.

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And with Home Start not being there, I don't know where I'd be.

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Without them I really don't know how I'd cope, basically.

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Back now to the scroungers.

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And investigators are looking into the benefit claims

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of mum of two Clare Evans.

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She's been receiving Jobseekers Allowance, Income Support

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and Housing and Council Tax Benefits since 2004.

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But investigators have discovered that Clare Evans has actually

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managed to get credit worth tens of thousands of pounds in recent years

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and a massive £65,000 has been deposited

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in her current account in a period of just four years.

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Crikey. I mean, that's an awful lot of money for somebody

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who, supposedly, hasn't got a job.

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But you want to find out where it's all come from.

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Yeah, you'll see that a lot of these items are listed as foreign items

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which didn't mean anything to us at the time.

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Investigators don't know where the money's coming from

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but they've got a good idea where it's going.

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Clare Evans has bought numerous luxury cars in recent years.

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But how does someone who's been on benefits for so long get so much credit?

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The first piece of the jigsaw dropped into place

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when they decided to pay a call to her letting agent.

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We went to see this particular person, the agent, and he provided us

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with a copy of the application she'd made when she rented the property.

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Along with that and the fact that she was getting credit

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on these cars, she must've been telling people she had a job.

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Well, this is what we found out.

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She'd actually told the letting agent that she was employed as a model.

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-Earning £25,000 a year.

-OK.

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Had been for about four years

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and identified the studio for which she was working.

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Which is all the damning evidence you need

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cos, no doubt, that had her signature on it.

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Indeed.

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Ah-ha. Supposedly unemployed Clare Evans, actually,

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had a very lucrative career as a model.

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And it only took a few clicks on a search engine

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to find some of the images of herself she was selling.

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We subsequently identified at least two sites

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-that she was using to model on.

-What are we talking about?

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Catalogue modelling or something a little bit shadier.

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Yes, glamour modelling, glamour modelling.

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One of the sites that she used,

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she advertised her services for fees of up to £75 per hour.

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-OK, so we're talking about adult sites?

-Yes.

-OK.

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Clare Evans might be a glamour model but she's no ditzy blonde.

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She's been getting away with claiming benefits on the basis

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that she is an unemployed mum of two in need of help to pay her rent.

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All the while earning tens of thousands of pounds a year as a model.

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And that's not all she's been sneaky about.

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The letting agent's paperwork also revealed

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that Clare Evans was using more than one address.

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In the application that she made to rent the property,

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she quoted her previous address as an address in Bristol.

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As far as we at the council were concerned, we had no record of that address.

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But records showed that she'd used that Bristol address to record all her credit at.

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That meant that the letting agent, when they do their checks

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to find out if she's going to be a good tenant,

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it shows that she would have lived there for a long time,

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she's got credit at the address.

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So, she was actually being dishonest with the credit companies, with the banks, with her letting agents.

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-Obviously, the council, everybody.

-She was.

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She had this one address which was getting her a good credit rating.

0:23:540:23:58

So, Clare Evans had managed to keep claiming benefits

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by presenting herself as an unemployed mother of two

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who can't afford her rent.

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But at the same time, she's living the high life

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bankrolled by her secret career as a glamour model.

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In effect, what she's done is she's got, sort of, a split personality, here, hasn't she?

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One which is really good and good enough to get credit for expensive cars.

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And another one which is good enough to give her benefits cos she's unemployed.

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That's precisely right, yes. She's split her identity down the middle, I think.

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And what's worse is that Clare Evans has pulled a stunt like this before.

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We prosecuted her for benefit fraud only back in 2008.

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At that time, she had falsified a tenancy

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to enable her to get benefits she wasn't entitled to then.

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And we thought it was sufficiently serious that we prosecuted her.

0:24:430:24:47

-She obviously didn't learn her lesson, did she?

-Far from it.

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This time, investigators were determined

0:24:510:24:54

that Clare Evans realised the seriousness of her crime.

0:24:540:24:57

We called her in for interview under caution, which is a formal interview.

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And we asked her about her work.

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Sensing her number was up, she admitted

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that she did, indeed, have a source of income that she hadn't declared.

0:25:060:25:09

She told us that she was earning between £200 and £800 a month

0:25:090:25:14

-from her activities as a glamour model.

-Wow.

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-Nice little income on top of your benefits, isn't it?

-Very nice.

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In just four years, Clare Evans had amassed a fortune

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of £65,000 in royalties for work she had done on adult modelling sites

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and in online adult entertainment videos.

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But she had some very interesting logic as to why she felt

0:25:300:25:33

she didn't have to declare her income.

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She felt that it was such a small amount of work

0:25:360:25:38

she'd actually undertaken that it wasn't worth reporting.

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-What 65 grand in four years?

-Well, she seemed to think that,

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as I say, the hours that she put in to make the videos,

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that we subsequently found out she was making,

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didn't require her reporting them.

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It's not the amount she's earned, it's that she did the videos quite quickly.

0:25:520:25:56

Well, that's what she thought.

0:25:560:25:58

But she'd have to do better than that to convince the courts to go easy on her.

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In July 2011, Clare Evans appeared at Bristol Crown Court

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where she was charged with ten offences

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relating to her claims to benefits.

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She pleaded guilty.

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She'd defrauded the benefit system out of £62,000

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she wasn't entitled to.

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Although she was pregnant at the time of her court appearance,

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the judge showed no leniency towards this repeat offender

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and sentenced her to ten months imprisonment.

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And, on her release,

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she will have to repay all the money she stole from the benefit system.

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Some people think they can have their cake and eat it.

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Get a job that pays good money and claim benefits at the same time.

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But, scroungers, beware,

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if you're going to live life in the fast lane

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at the taxpayer's expense, you better keep an eye on your mirror.

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Because you never know when fraud investigators might be hot on your tail.

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