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It's an age-old principle in this country | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
that when we have people in genuine need, we help them out. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
It's vital support that improves lives. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
At one point, I just thought, "This is it. I can't do this no more." | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
However, whenever there's cash on offer, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
you'll also find people who want to steal it. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Those trying to pinch from the public purse are being pursued. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Clearly, she was able to make significant profit. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Welcome to the world of Saints And Scroungers. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Saints And Scroungers shows the very best and the very worst | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
of the benefits system, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
including those that set out deliberately to steal from public coffers. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
It shows those who need help and those who help themselves. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Every day across the UK, investigators fight to bring fraudsters to justice | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
and saints fight to make sure people in need | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
get what they're entitled to. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Coming up on today's show - | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
a claimant at the heart of a complex web of lies. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
She was very evasive and had a cock-and-bull story | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
about this all being done by other people. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
And the cunning canine who came to the rescue. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
It just means I'm a little bit less disabled than I was before. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Money makes the world go round, that's what the song says. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
If you haven't got any money, it certainly comes to a juddering halt. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
The government is there to help you if you get into a cash crisis. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Then there are some people | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
who seem perfectly happy to help themselves. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
This is Fabiola Dantas. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
On the face of it, an ordinary working single mother employed as a cleaner | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
who turned to Brent Council for help paying her rent | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
in the form of housing benefits. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
She stated that she had children | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
and wasn't working more than 16 hours a week, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
which also entitled Dantas to claim for useful tax credits | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
on top of housing benefits. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
Investigators didn't know it at the time, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
but she was about to be at the centre | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
of one of their biggest cases. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
In August 2007, Dantas wasn't even on the radar | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
when a benefit assessor flagged up | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
some discrepancies with benefit claims in Brent. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Some of the forms looked suspicious and possibly fake. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
The suspicious claims were passed on to fraud investigator Simon Lane. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
The first claim we had in respect to this case | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
was from a guy called Jose Nunes | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
who was living in Chamberlain Road in the borough | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
as a single man, allegedly with his daughter. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
The checks that were initially made on that claim were with HMRC | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
to see if the tax credits letters were genuine | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
and also with the whole of Brent schools | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
to see where the daughter was being educated. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Eventually, the checks came back from HMRC | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
saying that the tax credit letters weren't genuine or had been altered | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
and we couldn't find any trace of the daughter. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Wait a minute. The school had no idea who this guy's daughter was. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
That's a bit weird. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
A short while later, a different benefits assessor | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
handed on an unrelated claim to the investigators. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
This time it was bank statements that didn't add up. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
We then received a claim from Evandro Pereira | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
at another address, Bazalgette House. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Similar MO, claimant with a child. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
The assessment officer that received that claim was suspicious | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
because the bank statement was showing the date of February, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
but spelt with a V, Fev, shortened version of February, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
which would be obviously not the correct English spelling. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
And sent it to us to have a look at. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
So another single dad claiming for a nonexistent child. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
And what about these spelling mistakes? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
The team decided to look further into this Evandro Pereira. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
The case was assigned to one of their top fraud investigators. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Due to the nature of his job, he's asked to remain anonymous. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
One of the things that we noticed on the claim was that there was dates, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
it was marked Fev, F-E-V, on a Barclays Bank statement. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
We contacted Barclays Bank in order to verify whether or not | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
that is something they would put on one of their statements | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
to see whether it was an authentic statement | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
or if it was a fraudulent counterfeit document. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Barclays did verify that they would not put Fev on their bank statements. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
OK. So that's two single dads bringing up children in the borough, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
both with questionable paperwork. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
A short time later, there was yet another case | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
with striking similarities. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Again, we received a claim in the name of Danielle Alexandre | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
at an address close to the other two addresses. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
Again, it carried the Fev date on the bank statement. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
We made some enquiries with the landlord of that property, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
who said Alexandre wasn't, as far as they were concerned, a tenant. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
Not a tenant. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Similar spelling mistakes. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
What could these links between unassociated applicants mean? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
There were questions to be asked, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
but meanwhile, claims were still flowing into the office. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Around about the same time, we received a further claim | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
from a guy called Cesar Teixeira. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
He's at the same address as Alexandre. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Same MO, low earnings, children involved, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
can't trace the children to schools. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Fraudulent claims, addresses appearing again and again, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
but with different occupants. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Benefit claims for children that couldn't be tracked down. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Something was up and the team knew it. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
But for the time being, these were all being treated | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
as separate, unrelated cases by different investigators. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
These cases shared addresses and spelling mistakes | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
and, what do you know, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
bank statements included in Alexandre's paperwork | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
contained data relating to Pereira, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
linking the two separate claimants. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
It could well have been that the same statements | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
were used on the other claims | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
where they'd just changed the name and the address on the statements, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
the account information and details held within there. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Obviously, you can't see who they relate to, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
but they would have been the same ones. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Further investigations started to raise more suspicions. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Requests for extra information | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
resulted in inconsistent employer and landlord details. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
We'd ask for other information, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
things like wage slips or contracts of employment. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
At which point, Alexandre decided to withdraw her claim to benefit. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
With all the inconsistencies, it was time to pay someone a visit. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
With the Pereira claim, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
we actually went around to the property. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Knocked on the door looking for him and was told he wasn't about. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
We tried to invite him in for an interview | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
and we got a call to say that he was unavailable. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
We tried to rearrange it and then shortly after, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
we got a letter in to say he's going back to Brazil | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
and obviously can't make any more appointments. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Like a red rag to a bull to an investigator. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Often, the very act of withdrawing or cancelling a claim | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
is a sign of potential guilt. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Basically, what we thought then | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
was they were willing to burn a claim, as we call it, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
to stop the claim, throw it away and start with a new claim | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
to avoid getting caught. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
We got together the officers involved and we realised | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
there were similarities within the different investigations | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
that we were looking at. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
They were using addresses, contact numbers and other information. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
A landlord's telephone number on one claim | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
would be an employer's telephone number on another claim. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
A previous address on one claim would be where they were working on a different claim. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
It was at that stage we started looking at the identities on the claims. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
We noted that the Nunes and the Teixeira claims | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
had the same photograph on different passports. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
While the investigators weren't exactly sure who was responsible, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
it looked like the team had unearthed a large-scale, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
highly-organised benefit fraud | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
relying on multiple addresses, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
multiple identities and fake paperwork, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
paperwork that was allowing them to make claims. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Then yet another suspicious application was passed on to them. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
This time from a Miss Fabiola Dantas. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Remember her? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
She's our hard-working mother | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
claiming for housing benefit and tax credits. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Dantas was also claiming for children | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
who weren't known to the local schools either. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Sound familiar? Well, just look a little closer. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
She was claiming for three children. When we looked historically, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
those children had changed over the years. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
There was a total of 12 different children registered to her claim, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
never all in one go. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
12 children. Wow! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I mean, I can't imagine anyone with all those children | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
would ever have time to con the council. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Unless she was some kind of supermum. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
Only ever two to four children registered at any one time. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
As the children got older, into a school year | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
where a benefit assessor had contacted them | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
to ask for some verifications of that child, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
something would happen. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
They'd move abroad, they'd move to family members. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Dantas even went as far as to declare that one child had died. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
We were given a death certificate to that. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
And obviously, later, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
further children would be added to the claim again. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
But there wasn't 12 children | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
on there at one time to raise that suspicion. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
It's only when you look into the archives of the previous details | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
that went obviously back a number of years | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
that this all came to light. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
This long-term deception was damning enough, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
but once Dantas was in the frame, her name began to appear everywhere. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
linked to the properties and individuals already under investigation, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
which had now been grouped under the codename Operation Scarlet. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
When they started to knock on doors, the plot thickened. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Fabiola Dantas was also a claimant of ours. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
So she was not only a claimant, but she was being identified | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
as a possible landlord by some of the tenants. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
How could a mother claiming for benefits be a landlord, as well? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
It didn't added up. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
We obtained all of the claim forms | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
and the relevant documents that had been submitted. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
We started to suspect some people were using multiple identities, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
particularly the Nunes claim, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
where we felt that the picture on the passport | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
was similar to the Teixeira claim. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The paper trail suggested Dantas was not only claiming tax credits illegally, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
but might also be using fake passports and identities | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
under the names of Teixeira, Nunes and Pereira | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
to make further bogus benefit claims. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Fabiola Dantas turned up as a guarantor for Nunes | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
and she also turned up as a council taxpayer at Blackheath House, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
neither of which she was ostensibly associated with. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
The web was getting more complex. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
On top of everything else, investigators were beginning | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
to suspect that Dantas was renting houses in false names, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
claiming benefits at those properties, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
as well as taking rent from tenants. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
There were a number of properties, about ten or eleven properties. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Lots of the properties were used as either employer addresses | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
or landlord addresses for other claims. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
And then those properties themselves would be other employer addresses | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and the whole thing was linked. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
You'd get a circular link, if you like, with various phone numbers | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
associated with properties linked to other properties, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
all within this group of ten or eleven properties. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
The investigators were realising | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Dantas was at the centre of what's known as carousel fraud. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
She was creating multiple fake identities | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and recycling their details across different claims | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
in a circular effect. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Dantas was defrauding the council of hundreds of thousands of pounds. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
The pressure was on to find her | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
and bring a stop to a misleading merry-go-round of criminality. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Operation Scarlet was given the green light. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Would they be able to bring Dantas to justice? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
I remember the morning of the searches. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
I was feeling very nervous, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
hoping that all the evidence I got was obviously accurate. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
I'm thinking, "I don't want this to go wrong." | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
OK. Farewell to the fraudsters and hello to people we call saints. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
That's those in society who help others who are in genuine need, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
but are sometimes too proud | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
or don't know how to claim what's rightfully theirs. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Imagine a world where all your everyday needs | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
require somebody else to help you - | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
simple things like emptying the washing machine, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
opening a door or picking up a pencil. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
All the things that, in fact, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
able-bodied people take for granted without a second thought. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
And that's exactly what life's like for 33-year-old Lorna Marsh. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
I have cerebral palsy quadriplegia. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
The cerebral palsy means that I'm a wheelchair user | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
and the quadriplegia bit means that it affects all four limbs. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
And it basically means the messages | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
don't get from my head to where I want them to go. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Lorna keeps herself very busy. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
She's not only working with autistic children | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
and adults as a part-time teacher, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
on top of that, she's got a successful career | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
working for an organisation called Surrey Independent Living Council. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
It's a job that draws on all her experience | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
and insight as a disabled person. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I've come to meet her to find out a bit more. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
The role that you have helping people, how does that work? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
What do you help them to do? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Basically, I support people with their direct payments. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Direct payments is a funding that's awarded by government | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
to help other people in various situations live more independently. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
What is it that qualifies you, do you think, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
to be able to help people in this way? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I've been on direct payments myself for about 18 years or so. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I also saw the fight that my parents had to find out the information. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
And I thought, "I don't want other people to go through that." | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
I just saw it as a good opportunity to share my experiences with them. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
Confidence has never been an issue for Lorna. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
From as far as I can remember, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
I've always been absolutely determined if there's something I want to do, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
then there's no reason why I shouldn't do it. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
And that's what drives me to achieve as much as I want to achieve. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
And I think that if I wasn't disabled, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
then I wouldn't have the drive I've got. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Because I want to prove people wrong all the time. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
She's no shrinking violet. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
And true to her belief in proving people wrong, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
she went to university to study dance. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
People might look at you in your wheelchair and say | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
you are the least qualified person they can think of | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
to be engaging in the act of dance. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
How does it work? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
It works by me having the creative ideas in my head | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
and having the opportunity to get other people | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
who are able bodied or more able than myself | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
to produce them in front of me. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Lorna had a great time at university, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
but it was there that she began to realise | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
just how hard life was going to be for her | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
as an independent woman out in the big wide world. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
I couldn't go, "Mum? Dad? I need a hand." | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Because they were saying, "We're not helping now. You've moved out." | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
It was a good thing, they did me a favour. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
But obviously, they're there if I need them, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
but they said, "You've got to try and do this on your own." | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Living life with cerebral palsy | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
not only means that Lorna Marsh requires a wheelchair, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
but she needs substantial help on a daily basis. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
The question was, how could Lorna be more independent, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
given her care needs? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
The solution came when least expected. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
And when it did, Lorna was quick to take up the lead. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
I was actually at a wheelchair exhibition. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
They had a dog there and I fell in love with the dog | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
and I fell in love with the whole concept. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
The big idea was that of Canine Partners, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
which, as the name suggests, partners a client with a disability | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
with a trained dog that can do many useful everyday tasks. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Yes, it's time to meet Eli, Lorna's best friend and helper. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
He's a live-in personal assistant who's only too happy to help. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
Talk me through the things he can help you out with on a daily basis. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
But he does 306 or so different things for me. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
They range from opening and closing the door... | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
Good lad! Good lad! | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
..opening and closing the bin | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
to helping me take my coat off... | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Good boy! | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
..to flushing the toilet... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Yay! | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
..to turning the lights on and off. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
You know, the list is nonstop. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Good boy! | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
Good boy! | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
The range of tasks that Eli is able to perform is amazing. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
It takes hours of dedicated and specialised training | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
before the dogs get to go home with their new owners. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
It takes about two years for the dogs to complete their training. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
So they are with puppy parents | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
up until the first 14-18 months of their lives, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
where they have weekly puppy classes. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
And they come into us, where we have them | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
for 15 weeks in advance training. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
So usually, by the time the dog's going out, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
they're usually about two years old. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Once the all-important bond between Lorna and Eli was established, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
the impact on her life was instant and dramatic. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
And I remember, I got him to open the door | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
and then I also got him to close the door behind me. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
This was the first time I'd opened and closed the door independently | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
in my entire life ever. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
It sounds to me like you've got two things here. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-You've got really practical help. -Yeah. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
But you've also got something which just is another asset to your life, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
another facet to your life | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
which makes it a life, not an existence. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
He's one of the best decisions I ever made. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
I'm going to cry, so I'm going to stop. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Yeah, no, he's phenomenal. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Because it's just great. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It just means I'm a little bit less disabled than I was before. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Between 2007 and 2009, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
a series of fraudulent applications for child tax credits | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
and assorted fake documents | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
sent alarm bells ringing for Brent Council fraud investigators. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Fabiola Dantas' name kept on cropping up, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
linking her to an organised scam to defraud the council | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
of hundred of thousands of pounds. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
There was, sort of, what we'd call a carousel effect, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
where they were pushing the details around on to the next claim. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
And we'd linked the fact they were all using European identities, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
they were all claiming to work 16 hours, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
which is the minimum amount of hours | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
you can work to get tax credits at that time, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
which meant they could get their top-up housing benefit | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
at the maximum rate. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
The fact that they had children, they could get three, four bedroom houses | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
to house those children. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
We realised the claims were linked because of the contact details | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and because of the use of various documentation | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
within each of the claims, different names appearing, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
the children's names being very similar | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
and literally the same thing occurring | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
on all of these benefit claims. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
The investigators believed Dantas was at the centre | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
of all this carousel fraud. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Now they just had to prove it. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
We'd contacted the banks and building societies involved | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
and they'd provided us with CCTV footage from ATMs. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
We wasn't sure, but we did see that there was a gentleman and a lady | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
that were more often drawing money from the various bank accounts. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
That's when we believed it was people creating fraudulent identities | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
to obtain benefit claims and abuse the system. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
The investigators were now hot on Dantas' trail | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and were trying to prove she was pocketing the money. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
In the meantime, investigators were able | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
to join up all the confusing elements | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
to get their first clear view of how the scam worked. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
We believe the properties were private landlord-owned properties | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
rented out directly or via estate agencies | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
to Dantas or her associates. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
We're aware that the rent was paid. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Often the benefit was there to pay the rent. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
That wasn't where she was getting necessarily the profit of her scam. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
The profit came from the fact that there wasn't children | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
and she had many spare rooms that were then rented out. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
And if you're not actually paying the rent, housing benefit is, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
any profit you get goes straight to yourself. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
So that's what it's all about. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Now that Dantas' fraud was out in the open, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
the investigators had to move quickly to shut her down. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
We've got no power of arrest as a local authority | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
and no powers to search, so we need the assistance of the police. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
So in around 2011, we approached our colleagues at Wembley Police | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
to see if they'd assist with an arrest and search. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
The whole investigation had been conducted by Brent Council | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and they'd spent quite a few months gathering the evidence | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
with regards to the frauds. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
So in effect, it was their own investigation. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
They needed police assistance with regards to executing warrants, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
taking people into custody. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
The police arranged for search warrants | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
on five different properties to be conducted simultaneously. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Now that the police were on board, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
the team got ready for a raid on the suspect properties. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
After so much time tracking down the criminals, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
they were understandably tense. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
In the morning at the briefing, we could see 30 police officers, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
15 UK Border Agency officers for any Brazilian overstayers | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and also eight of my colleagues that were involved in the searches. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
I'm thinking, "I don't want this to go wrong." | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
"I hope my evidence is secure." | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I remember them moving from the briefing to sites of the searches | 0:22:18 | 0:22:24 | |
and how professional and organised the police were | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
in getting their search teams into place | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
on a number of these properties. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
As the police went in, it wasn't long | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
before they realised they'd struck gold. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Of the arrests that were made, some were for immigration offences | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
that were dealt with by the UK Border Agency. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
Then, with regards to criminal arrests, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
we arrested one of the main subjects, which was Fabiola Dantas. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Bingo! The team were in luck | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
and the police had nabbed their chief suspect. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
When the police and investigators entered the properties, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
they found Fabiola Dantas quite quickly. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
She was at one of the properties that there was a claim to benefit at. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
Just not the claim address | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
that she was claiming to live at for benefit purposes. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
She was using one of the other addresses. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
The address she was claiming at was only two doors away. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Also, in her property, there were no children, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
but there were other people that were paying her rent. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
Not only had the police had caught Dantas red-handed, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
they also bagged evidence of her activities, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
including more damning paperwork | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
that proved she was the key player all along. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
She had a small Mercedes vehicle out the front. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Both the vehicle and her house were searched. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
We found a number of items which were used in evidence, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
including bank cards with PIN numbers written on the back | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
in the names of some of the other tenants. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Blank tenancy agreements and blank wage slips. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
She did have the latest gadgets, iPhones, computers, et cetera, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
but not huge, significant amounts or luxury items within the house. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
We found many pictures. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
We could clearly see that she'd been to Amsterdam, Paris, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Egypt, to a football game, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Benfica, which is in Portugal. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
The money obviously was going into this luxury lifestyle | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
of travelling around Europe. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Her mobile phone was looked at, as well, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
and we found, having translated it at a later stage, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
she said that she was sending a lot of money back home to Brazil | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
to family that she had there. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
With Dantas finally under arrest, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
the fraud team felt like they were getting close | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
to putting a stop to this scam. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
And from their chief suspect, they wanted answers. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
But even under questioning, it seemed that Dantas | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
wasn't prepared to go quietly. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
One of my officers interviewed her under caution. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
At that interview, she was quite evasive. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
She couldn't provide any proper explanation | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
as to what the basis of the claims were, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
where these children were. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
She initially said that she was an informant of ours | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and she'd given us anonymous information about these claims. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
She was very evasive, not particularly helpful | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and had a cock-and-bull story about this all being done by other people. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
It seemed that after a lifetime of deceit, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Dantas couldn't help but lay the lies on even thicker. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
She was prepared to tell anything, apart from the truth. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
While on remand, she requested a second interview with us. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
And we ended up interviewing her in one of the cells at court | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
and she offered an explanation | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
that her children were being held hostage in Brazil | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
and she was being forced to perpetuate this fraud. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
She'd never started it, she was just perpetuating a fraud | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
that had been set up by someone else and she was doing so under duress. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
With the amount of evidence they had, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
clearly, these last-ditch attempts to cover up her guilt | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
weren't going to fool anybody. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
In the end, Dantas pleaded guilty to all charges | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and was finally sent down for 27 months in prison. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
But the big question has to be, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
how much did her 12-year criminal campaign cost the public purse | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
before a stint in jail finally put a stop to it? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
A whopping estimated £192,000. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
We're always pleased to see a custodial sentence in these cases | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
where there's a significant amount of money | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
taken from the public purse, nearly £200,000. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
We're still pursuing a confiscation hearing. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
There will be one under the Proceeds of Crime Act, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
where we'll be trying to identify any assets | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
that are held by Miss Dantas | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and trying to identify any criminal benefit that she's gained | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
as a result of the monies that she's stolen from us. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
And we'll be attempting to recover funds where possible. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Eventually, like all bad things, it came to an end. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
And Dantas' carousel fraud finally stopped turning. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
As did her world, when the judge sent her to jail. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
You can't claim benefits from there. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
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