Episode 11 Saints and Scroungers


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It's an age-old principle in this country

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that when we have people in genuine need, we help them out.

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It's vital support that improves lives.

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At one point, I just thought, "This is it. I can't do this no more."

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However, whenever there's cash on offer,

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you'll also find people who want to steal it.

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Those trying to pinch from the public purse are being pursued.

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Clearly, she was able to make significant profit.

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Welcome to the world of Saints And Scroungers.

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Saints And Scroungers shows the very best and the very worst

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of the benefits system,

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including those that set out deliberately to steal from public coffers.

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It shows those who need help and those who help themselves.

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Every day across the UK, investigators fight to bring fraudsters to justice

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and saints fight to make sure people in need

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get what they're entitled to.

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Coming up on today's show -

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a claimant at the heart of a complex web of lies.

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She was very evasive and had a cock-and-bull story

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about this all being done by other people.

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And the cunning canine who came to the rescue.

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It just means I'm a little bit less disabled than I was before.

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Money makes the world go round, that's what the song says.

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If you haven't got any money, it certainly comes to a juddering halt.

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The government is there to help you if you get into a cash crisis.

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Then there are some people

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who seem perfectly happy to help themselves.

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This is Fabiola Dantas.

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On the face of it, an ordinary working single mother employed as a cleaner

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who turned to Brent Council for help paying her rent

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in the form of housing benefits.

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She stated that she had children

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and wasn't working more than 16 hours a week,

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which also entitled Dantas to claim for useful tax credits

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on top of housing benefits.

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Investigators didn't know it at the time,

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but she was about to be at the centre

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of one of their biggest cases.

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In August 2007, Dantas wasn't even on the radar

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when a benefit assessor flagged up

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some discrepancies with benefit claims in Brent.

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Some of the forms looked suspicious and possibly fake.

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The suspicious claims were passed on to fraud investigator Simon Lane.

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The first claim we had in respect to this case

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was from a guy called Jose Nunes

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who was living in Chamberlain Road in the borough

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as a single man, allegedly with his daughter.

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The checks that were initially made on that claim were with HMRC

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to see if the tax credits letters were genuine

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and also with the whole of Brent schools

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to see where the daughter was being educated.

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Eventually, the checks came back from HMRC

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saying that the tax credit letters weren't genuine or had been altered

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and we couldn't find any trace of the daughter.

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Wait a minute. The school had no idea who this guy's daughter was.

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That's a bit weird.

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A short while later, a different benefits assessor

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handed on an unrelated claim to the investigators.

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This time it was bank statements that didn't add up.

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We then received a claim from Evandro Pereira

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at another address, Bazalgette House.

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Similar MO, claimant with a child.

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The assessment officer that received that claim was suspicious

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because the bank statement was showing the date of February,

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but spelt with a V, Fev, shortened version of February,

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which would be obviously not the correct English spelling.

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And sent it to us to have a look at.

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So another single dad claiming for a nonexistent child.

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And what about these spelling mistakes?

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The team decided to look further into this Evandro Pereira.

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The case was assigned to one of their top fraud investigators.

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Due to the nature of his job, he's asked to remain anonymous.

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One of the things that we noticed on the claim was that there was dates,

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it was marked Fev, F-E-V, on a Barclays Bank statement.

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We contacted Barclays Bank in order to verify whether or not

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that is something they would put on one of their statements

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to see whether it was an authentic statement

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or if it was a fraudulent counterfeit document.

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Barclays did verify that they would not put Fev on their bank statements.

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OK. So that's two single dads bringing up children in the borough,

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both with questionable paperwork.

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A short time later, there was yet another case

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with striking similarities.

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Again, we received a claim in the name of Danielle Alexandre

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at an address close to the other two addresses.

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Again, it carried the Fev date on the bank statement.

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We made some enquiries with the landlord of that property,

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who said Alexandre wasn't, as far as they were concerned, a tenant.

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Not a tenant.

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Similar spelling mistakes.

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What could these links between unassociated applicants mean?

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There were questions to be asked,

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but meanwhile, claims were still flowing into the office.

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Around about the same time, we received a further claim

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from a guy called Cesar Teixeira.

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He's at the same address as Alexandre.

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Same MO, low earnings, children involved,

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can't trace the children to schools.

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Fraudulent claims, addresses appearing again and again,

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but with different occupants.

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Benefit claims for children that couldn't be tracked down.

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Something was up and the team knew it.

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But for the time being, these were all being treated

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as separate, unrelated cases by different investigators.

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These cases shared addresses and spelling mistakes

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and, what do you know,

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bank statements included in Alexandre's paperwork

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contained data relating to Pereira,

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linking the two separate claimants.

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It could well have been that the same statements

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were used on the other claims

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where they'd just changed the name and the address on the statements,

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the account information and details held within there.

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Obviously, you can't see who they relate to,

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but they would have been the same ones.

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Further investigations started to raise more suspicions.

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Requests for extra information

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resulted in inconsistent employer and landlord details.

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We'd ask for other information,

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things like wage slips or contracts of employment.

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At which point, Alexandre decided to withdraw her claim to benefit.

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With all the inconsistencies, it was time to pay someone a visit.

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With the Pereira claim,

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we actually went around to the property.

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Knocked on the door looking for him and was told he wasn't about.

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We tried to invite him in for an interview

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and we got a call to say that he was unavailable.

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We tried to rearrange it and then shortly after,

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we got a letter in to say he's going back to Brazil

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and obviously can't make any more appointments.

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Like a red rag to a bull to an investigator.

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Often, the very act of withdrawing or cancelling a claim

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is a sign of potential guilt.

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Basically, what we thought then

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was they were willing to burn a claim, as we call it,

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to stop the claim, throw it away and start with a new claim

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to avoid getting caught.

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We got together the officers involved and we realised

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there were similarities within the different investigations

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that we were looking at.

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They were using addresses, contact numbers and other information.

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A landlord's telephone number on one claim

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would be an employer's telephone number on another claim.

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A previous address on one claim would be where they were working on a different claim.

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It was at that stage we started looking at the identities on the claims.

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We noted that the Nunes and the Teixeira claims

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had the same photograph on different passports.

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While the investigators weren't exactly sure who was responsible,

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it looked like the team had unearthed a large-scale,

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highly-organised benefit fraud

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relying on multiple addresses,

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multiple identities and fake paperwork,

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paperwork that was allowing them to make claims.

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Then yet another suspicious application was passed on to them.

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This time from a Miss Fabiola Dantas.

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Remember her?

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She's our hard-working mother

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claiming for housing benefit and tax credits.

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Dantas was also claiming for children

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who weren't known to the local schools either.

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Sound familiar? Well, just look a little closer.

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She was claiming for three children. When we looked historically,

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those children had changed over the years.

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There was a total of 12 different children registered to her claim,

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never all in one go.

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12 children. Wow!

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I mean, I can't imagine anyone with all those children

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would ever have time to con the council.

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Unless she was some kind of supermum.

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Only ever two to four children registered at any one time.

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As the children got older, into a school year

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where a benefit assessor had contacted them

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to ask for some verifications of that child,

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something would happen.

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They'd move abroad, they'd move to family members.

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Dantas even went as far as to declare that one child had died.

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We were given a death certificate to that.

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And obviously, later,

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further children would be added to the claim again.

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But there wasn't 12 children

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on there at one time to raise that suspicion.

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It's only when you look into the archives of the previous details

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that went obviously back a number of years

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that this all came to light.

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This long-term deception was damning enough,

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but once Dantas was in the frame, her name began to appear everywhere.

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linked to the properties and individuals already under investigation,

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which had now been grouped under the codename Operation Scarlet.

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When they started to knock on doors, the plot thickened.

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Fabiola Dantas was also a claimant of ours.

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So she was not only a claimant, but she was being identified

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as a possible landlord by some of the tenants.

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How could a mother claiming for benefits be a landlord, as well?

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It didn't added up.

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We obtained all of the claim forms

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and the relevant documents that had been submitted.

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We started to suspect some people were using multiple identities,

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particularly the Nunes claim,

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where we felt that the picture on the passport

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was similar to the Teixeira claim.

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The paper trail suggested Dantas was not only claiming tax credits illegally,

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but might also be using fake passports and identities

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under the names of Teixeira, Nunes and Pereira

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to make further bogus benefit claims.

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Fabiola Dantas turned up as a guarantor for Nunes

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and she also turned up as a council taxpayer at Blackheath House,

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neither of which she was ostensibly associated with.

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The web was getting more complex.

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On top of everything else, investigators were beginning

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to suspect that Dantas was renting houses in false names,

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claiming benefits at those properties,

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as well as taking rent from tenants.

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There were a number of properties, about ten or eleven properties.

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Lots of the properties were used as either employer addresses

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or landlord addresses for other claims.

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And then those properties themselves would be other employer addresses

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and the whole thing was linked.

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You'd get a circular link, if you like, with various phone numbers

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associated with properties linked to other properties,

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all within this group of ten or eleven properties.

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The investigators were realising

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Dantas was at the centre of what's known as carousel fraud.

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She was creating multiple fake identities

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and recycling their details across different claims

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in a circular effect.

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Dantas was defrauding the council of hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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The pressure was on to find her

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and bring a stop to a misleading merry-go-round of criminality.

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Operation Scarlet was given the green light.

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Would they be able to bring Dantas to justice?

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I remember the morning of the searches.

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I was feeling very nervous,

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hoping that all the evidence I got was obviously accurate.

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I'm thinking, "I don't want this to go wrong."

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OK. Farewell to the fraudsters and hello to people we call saints.

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That's those in society who help others who are in genuine need,

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but are sometimes too proud

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or don't know how to claim what's rightfully theirs.

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Imagine a world where all your everyday needs

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require somebody else to help you -

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simple things like emptying the washing machine,

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opening a door or picking up a pencil.

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All the things that, in fact,

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able-bodied people take for granted without a second thought.

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And that's exactly what life's like for 33-year-old Lorna Marsh.

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I have cerebral palsy quadriplegia.

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The cerebral palsy means that I'm a wheelchair user

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and the quadriplegia bit means that it affects all four limbs.

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And it basically means the messages

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don't get from my head to where I want them to go.

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Lorna keeps herself very busy.

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She's not only working with autistic children

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and adults as a part-time teacher,

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on top of that, she's got a successful career

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working for an organisation called Surrey Independent Living Council.

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It's a job that draws on all her experience

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and insight as a disabled person.

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I've come to meet her to find out a bit more.

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The role that you have helping people, how does that work?

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What do you help them to do?

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Basically, I support people with their direct payments.

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Direct payments is a funding that's awarded by government

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to help other people in various situations live more independently.

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What is it that qualifies you, do you think,

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to be able to help people in this way?

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I've been on direct payments myself for about 18 years or so.

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I also saw the fight that my parents had to find out the information.

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And I thought, "I don't want other people to go through that."

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I just saw it as a good opportunity to share my experiences with them.

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Confidence has never been an issue for Lorna.

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From as far as I can remember,

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I've always been absolutely determined if there's something I want to do,

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then there's no reason why I shouldn't do it.

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And that's what drives me to achieve as much as I want to achieve.

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And I think that if I wasn't disabled,

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then I wouldn't have the drive I've got.

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Because I want to prove people wrong all the time.

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She's no shrinking violet.

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And true to her belief in proving people wrong,

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she went to university to study dance.

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People might look at you in your wheelchair and say

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you are the least qualified person they can think of

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to be engaging in the act of dance.

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How does it work?

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It works by me having the creative ideas in my head

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and having the opportunity to get other people

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who are able bodied or more able than myself

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to produce them in front of me.

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Lorna had a great time at university,

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but it was there that she began to realise

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just how hard life was going to be for her

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as an independent woman out in the big wide world.

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I couldn't go, "Mum? Dad? I need a hand."

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Because they were saying, "We're not helping now. You've moved out."

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It was a good thing, they did me a favour.

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But obviously, they're there if I need them,

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but they said, "You've got to try and do this on your own."

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Living life with cerebral palsy

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not only means that Lorna Marsh requires a wheelchair,

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but she needs substantial help on a daily basis.

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The question was, how could Lorna be more independent,

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given her care needs?

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The solution came when least expected.

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And when it did, Lorna was quick to take up the lead.

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I was actually at a wheelchair exhibition.

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They had a dog there and I fell in love with the dog

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and I fell in love with the whole concept.

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The big idea was that of Canine Partners,

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which, as the name suggests, partners a client with a disability

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with a trained dog that can do many useful everyday tasks.

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Yes, it's time to meet Eli, Lorna's best friend and helper.

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He's a live-in personal assistant who's only too happy to help.

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Talk me through the things he can help you out with on a daily basis.

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But he does 306 or so different things for me.

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They range from opening and closing the door...

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Good lad! Good lad!

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..opening and closing the bin

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to helping me take my coat off...

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Good boy!

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..to flushing the toilet...

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Yay!

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..to turning the lights on and off.

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You know, the list is nonstop.

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PHONE RINGS

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Good boy!

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Good boy!

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The range of tasks that Eli is able to perform is amazing.

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It takes hours of dedicated and specialised training

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before the dogs get to go home with their new owners.

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It takes about two years for the dogs to complete their training.

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So they are with puppy parents

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up until the first 14-18 months of their lives,

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where they have weekly puppy classes.

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And they come into us, where we have them

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for 15 weeks in advance training.

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So usually, by the time the dog's going out,

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they're usually about two years old.

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Once the all-important bond between Lorna and Eli was established,

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the impact on her life was instant and dramatic.

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And I remember, I got him to open the door

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and then I also got him to close the door behind me.

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This was the first time I'd opened and closed the door independently

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in my entire life ever.

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It sounds to me like you've got two things here.

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-You've got really practical help.

-Yeah.

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But you've also got something which just is another asset to your life,

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another facet to your life

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which makes it a life, not an existence.

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He's one of the best decisions I ever made.

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I'm going to cry, so I'm going to stop.

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Yeah, no, he's phenomenal.

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Because it's just great.

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It just means I'm a little bit less disabled than I was before.

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Between 2007 and 2009,

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a series of fraudulent applications for child tax credits

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and assorted fake documents

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sent alarm bells ringing for Brent Council fraud investigators.

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Fabiola Dantas' name kept on cropping up,

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linking her to an organised scam to defraud the council

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of hundred of thousands of pounds.

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There was, sort of, what we'd call a carousel effect,

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where they were pushing the details around on to the next claim.

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And we'd linked the fact they were all using European identities,

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they were all claiming to work 16 hours,

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which is the minimum amount of hours

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you can work to get tax credits at that time,

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which meant they could get their top-up housing benefit

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at the maximum rate.

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The fact that they had children, they could get three, four bedroom houses

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to house those children.

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We realised the claims were linked because of the contact details

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and because of the use of various documentation

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within each of the claims, different names appearing,

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the children's names being very similar

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and literally the same thing occurring

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on all of these benefit claims.

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The investigators believed Dantas was at the centre

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of all this carousel fraud.

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Now they just had to prove it.

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We'd contacted the banks and building societies involved

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and they'd provided us with CCTV footage from ATMs.

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We wasn't sure, but we did see that there was a gentleman and a lady

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that were more often drawing money from the various bank accounts.

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That's when we believed it was people creating fraudulent identities

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to obtain benefit claims and abuse the system.

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The investigators were now hot on Dantas' trail

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and were trying to prove she was pocketing the money.

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In the meantime, investigators were able

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to join up all the confusing elements

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to get their first clear view of how the scam worked.

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We believe the properties were private landlord-owned properties

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rented out directly or via estate agencies

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to Dantas or her associates.

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We're aware that the rent was paid.

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Often the benefit was there to pay the rent.

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That wasn't where she was getting necessarily the profit of her scam.

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The profit came from the fact that there wasn't children

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and she had many spare rooms that were then rented out.

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And if you're not actually paying the rent, housing benefit is,

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any profit you get goes straight to yourself.

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So that's what it's all about.

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Now that Dantas' fraud was out in the open,

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the investigators had to move quickly to shut her down.

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We've got no power of arrest as a local authority

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and no powers to search, so we need the assistance of the police.

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So in around 2011, we approached our colleagues at Wembley Police

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to see if they'd assist with an arrest and search.

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The whole investigation had been conducted by Brent Council

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and they'd spent quite a few months gathering the evidence

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with regards to the frauds.

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So in effect, it was their own investigation.

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They needed police assistance with regards to executing warrants,

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taking people into custody.

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The police arranged for search warrants

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on five different properties to be conducted simultaneously.

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Now that the police were on board,

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the team got ready for a raid on the suspect properties.

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After so much time tracking down the criminals,

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they were understandably tense.

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In the morning at the briefing, we could see 30 police officers,

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15 UK Border Agency officers for any Brazilian overstayers

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and also eight of my colleagues that were involved in the searches.

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I'm thinking, "I don't want this to go wrong."

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"I hope my evidence is secure."

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I remember them moving from the briefing to sites of the searches

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and how professional and organised the police were

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in getting their search teams into place

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on a number of these properties.

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As the police went in, it wasn't long

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before they realised they'd struck gold.

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Of the arrests that were made, some were for immigration offences

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that were dealt with by the UK Border Agency.

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Then, with regards to criminal arrests,

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we arrested one of the main subjects, which was Fabiola Dantas.

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Bingo! The team were in luck

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and the police had nabbed their chief suspect.

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When the police and investigators entered the properties,

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they found Fabiola Dantas quite quickly.

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She was at one of the properties that there was a claim to benefit at.

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Just not the claim address

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that she was claiming to live at for benefit purposes.

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She was using one of the other addresses.

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The address she was claiming at was only two doors away.

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Also, in her property, there were no children,

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but there were other people that were paying her rent.

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Not only had the police had caught Dantas red-handed,

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they also bagged evidence of her activities,

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including more damning paperwork

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that proved she was the key player all along.

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She had a small Mercedes vehicle out the front.

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Both the vehicle and her house were searched.

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We found a number of items which were used in evidence,

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including bank cards with PIN numbers written on the back

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in the names of some of the other tenants.

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Blank tenancy agreements and blank wage slips.

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She did have the latest gadgets, iPhones, computers, et cetera,

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but not huge, significant amounts or luxury items within the house.

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We found many pictures.

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We could clearly see that she'd been to Amsterdam, Paris,

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Egypt, to a football game,

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Benfica, which is in Portugal.

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The money obviously was going into this luxury lifestyle

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of travelling around Europe.

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Her mobile phone was looked at, as well,

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and we found, having translated it at a later stage,

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she said that she was sending a lot of money back home to Brazil

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to family that she had there.

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With Dantas finally under arrest,

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the fraud team felt like they were getting close

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to putting a stop to this scam.

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And from their chief suspect, they wanted answers.

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But even under questioning, it seemed that Dantas

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wasn't prepared to go quietly.

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One of my officers interviewed her under caution.

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At that interview, she was quite evasive.

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She couldn't provide any proper explanation

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as to what the basis of the claims were,

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where these children were.

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She initially said that she was an informant of ours

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and she'd given us anonymous information about these claims.

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She was very evasive, not particularly helpful

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and had a cock-and-bull story about this all being done by other people.

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It seemed that after a lifetime of deceit,

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Dantas couldn't help but lay the lies on even thicker.

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She was prepared to tell anything, apart from the truth.

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While on remand, she requested a second interview with us.

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And we ended up interviewing her in one of the cells at court

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and she offered an explanation

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that her children were being held hostage in Brazil

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and she was being forced to perpetuate this fraud.

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She'd never started it, she was just perpetuating a fraud

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that had been set up by someone else and she was doing so under duress.

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With the amount of evidence they had,

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clearly, these last-ditch attempts to cover up her guilt

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weren't going to fool anybody.

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In the end, Dantas pleaded guilty to all charges

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and was finally sent down for 27 months in prison.

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But the big question has to be,

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how much did her 12-year criminal campaign cost the public purse

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before a stint in jail finally put a stop to it?

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A whopping estimated £192,000.

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We're always pleased to see a custodial sentence in these cases

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where there's a significant amount of money

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taken from the public purse, nearly £200,000.

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We're still pursuing a confiscation hearing.

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There will be one under the Proceeds of Crime Act,

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where we'll be trying to identify any assets

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that are held by Miss Dantas

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and trying to identify any criminal benefit that she's gained

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as a result of the monies that she's stolen from us.

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And we'll be attempting to recover funds where possible.

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Eventually, like all bad things, it came to an end.

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And Dantas' carousel fraud finally stopped turning.

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As did her world, when the judge sent her to jail.

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You can't claim benefits from there.

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