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One of the things that makes this country great is that whenever | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
we find someone in GENUINE need, we help them out. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
This money provides support to transform people's lives. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
I was in total turmoil. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
But then whenever there is cash on offer, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
you will always find someone who wants to steal it. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
It was a sustained and calculated fraud. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Those greedy few tend to be brought to justice. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
They could potentially face prison as well. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
This is a world of Saints & Scroungers. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
Saints & Scroungers exposes the righteous | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and the wrongdoers in Britain's welfare system. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
On one side, you have those in legitimate need | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
and on the other, those who are just driven by greed. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
It is a scrap that is fought every day across the UK. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Anti-fraud teams are on a mission to ensure cheats | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
get their comeuppance and the saints are striving to help | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
those who deserve support to claim what is rightfully theirs. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
Coming up on today's show - | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
a cash-hungry con with over 15 claims and counting... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
This is just pure greed and nothing else. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
..and, after almost two decades, there is a ray of light | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
for one family who struggle to raise their kids against the odds. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Now we can look to the future, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
which is something we've never, ever thought of. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
I am Matt Allwright. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
There is only one of me. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
But without too much effort, I could be... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Hey, hey. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
He's funny. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
Then again, I could be... | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Your Italian friend. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Italian. Italian? Yeah. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
You're wearing a sombrero. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
The point here is if you turn yourself into more than one person, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
you could claim more than one load of benefits. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Yeah, don't try that at home. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Whilst we're on the subject of benefits, that is | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
what this fellow Emmanuel Ikem from Croydon applied for in 2007. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
It was housing benefit, to be precise. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
He was 21 at the time and had just moved out of Mum and Dad's place. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Nothing wrong with that. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
It is nice to know that there's | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
a bit of help for this churchgoing lad. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
After all, he was only trying to stand on his own two feet | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
and, in the right hands, a little bit can go a long way. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Not everyone's intentions are the same, though, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
as Croydon Council were about to find out. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Meet 30-year-old David Jones. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Like Emmanuel Ikem, he also needed support putting a roof | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
over his head but Croydon Council had reason to believe | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
he was on the take, falsely claiming benefits. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
I'm off to Croydon to meet the anti-fraud team's head honcho | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and boss man David Hogan to find out why. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Tell me about David Jones. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
What did you know about him? | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
The claim for David Jones, everything seemed to check out. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
Then somebody else leaving the same address contacted the council | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
and told us that this property was empty | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
and there wasn't anyone living there. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
That is a shocking revelation. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
Suddenly, you have been paying rent on a property which, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
apparently, is uninhabitable. Is that right? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
That was the situation we found ourselves in, yes. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
OK, so what is the next step? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
We'll try and track down Mr Jones | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
and the investigation really starts from there. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
So, the fraud team suspected that David Jones, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
a 30-year-old unemployed bloke, may be falsely claiming housing benefit, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
around 700 quid a month for an empty flat in Croydon. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
This doesn't sound good but, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
you know, it could just be a simple misunderstanding. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Maybe he had gone on holiday | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
or is very much into minimalist interior design. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
When the fraud team had Mr Jones on the phone asking | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
why his payments had been stopped, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
it seemed like nothing more than a storm in a teacup. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Mr Jones sent in various documents, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
including utility bills for the address, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
correspondence from the estate agents, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
to try and convince us that the money | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
shouldn't be suspended and it should still continue to be paid out. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
OK, so he provided all the paperwork you need in order | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
to claim benefits, including that all-important tenancy agreement. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
That must mean he's legit, right? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Croydon Council thought so and reinstated his payments, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
but not for long. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Mr Jones must have been having a run of bad luck, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
cos a few months later the council had to stop | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
his payments for a second time, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
when the letters they were sending him were coming straight back. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
'David Jones made contact with the council | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
'and said they were still living there and | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
'they were simply having a problem with their neighbour | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
'who, out of malice, was returning mail.' | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
The next notification we get from Mr Jones is him | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
telling us that he's now moving. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
He's moving to another address within the Croydon area. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
And he's changing his landlords as a result of this move. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
A sensible plan, if your neighbour's sabotaging your post, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
but, of course, by this time, the investigators' | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
antennae were twitching. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
The next claim from Mr Jones, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
'the investigators went to the address. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
'What they found was a property that was empty.' | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
So, from the address, they phoned Mr Jones who told them | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
'he was out shopping and couldn't meet them. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
'That made the investigator even more suspicious. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
'The investigator went from the property across to the | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
'estate agents and spoke to them' | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
and they confirmed they had no tenant in the name of David Jones. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
In fact, they were able to look at the documentation as relating | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
to that tenancy and tell it was false. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Another empty flat, and this time with forged paperwork. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
Alarm bells were now ringing from one end of Croydon to the other | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
and back again. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
If it turns out David Jones was making claims to | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
phoney addresses in order to bank in benefits, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
the investigators would be all over him like a rash. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
So, the next step was to thumb through council files to see | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
if anyone else was claiming benefits from David Jones' empty flat. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
It's standard practice, really, in a case like this. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
And, lo and behold, it came up trumps. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
'She found the things that were common,' | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
such as they all had the same mobile phone number, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
that the tenancy documents were broadly the same | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
and, one crucial bit, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
they all seemed to claim that the only income they had, the money | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
they lived off, was from charitable payments from friends and relatives. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Blimey. They found the landlord, letting agent | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
and even mobile phone number was the same on seven other claims. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
On one hand, I mean, it could just be another coincidence. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
On the other hand, it's got the smell of large-scale fraud. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
As we started to identify more | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
and more of the addresses that were being commonly used to make | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
these claims, we set out on a whole series of visits then, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
to look at the properties for ourselves, to photograph them. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
I've got some of the images here. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Here's the front door at Zion Road. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
You'll see here the front garden. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
It was evident to the investigators immediately that these | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
properties were not occupied. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Within weeks, the team had uncovered over half a dozen more | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
housing benefit claimants, with almost identical paperwork | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
to David Jones. Very odd. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
We then turned our attention to the tenancy documents that had | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
been submitted in support of all of these claims. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
What was interesting here was | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
when we did crosschecking with Land Registry records, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
we found that the owners of the property were completely fake. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
'Land Registry held details of the real owners | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
'and they weren't the people on the paperwork.' | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
So, the investigators had proof the addresses were being | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
falsely used in claims that they now suspected could | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
run into tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
What they needed was the low-down on the names written on the | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
claim forms, but, after running them | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
through every database at their disposal, they'd hit a brick wall. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Determined not to let this case slip away, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
investigator Graham Clark had an idea. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
He sent the files to his friends at the National Fraud Identity Unit | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
to have a gander. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
They had particular expertise on identifying documents, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
such as passports and birth certificates, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
so we went to them and showed them the birth certificates that had | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
been submitted in support of those claims. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
They were able to tell us that they were forgeries. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:48 | |
Forged. That doesn't sound good. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
If the documents aren't real, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
could that mean that David Jones isn't real, either? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Let's look at the facts. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Housing benefit claims coming from empty properties | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and claims coming from people who apparently didn't exist. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Something didn't add up | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
and it was up to the fraud team at Croydon to figure it out. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
Luckily, they're good at adding up and they worked out now | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
they had a benefit fraud involving multiple faked identities, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
but how do they work out who's behind it? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
We first suspected that it was one of the names on the other | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
claims that was responsible for the fraud. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
'We then make checks with colleagues at | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
'the Department for Work and Pensions,' | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
looking, really, to verify the National Insurance numbers | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
on these identities that are used. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Interestingly, what we found was the only one that they were able | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
to verify was Emmanuel Ikem. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
Ikem... Hold on, Emmanuel Ikem! | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
We've heard that name before. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Wasn't he the young churchgoer from Croydon who was given | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
housing benefits when he moved out from Mum and Dad's? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
With his name the only one that checked out, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
it wasn't looking good for him. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It was when we were checking out some of the tenancy agreements | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
on the claims, we then found links between Ikem | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
and some of the other identities. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
It seems our churchgoer might not be as saintly as we first thought. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
But as the case unravels, it starts to look like an unholy mess. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
I've been doing this job for 20-odd years | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
and I've only come across similar cases maybe six or seven times. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
Now, praise be, it's farewell to the fraudsters | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and hello to the people we call our saints, those in society that | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
help others who are in genuine need, but are sometimes too proud | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
or don't know how to claim what's rightfully theirs. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Kids. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
First, they give you sleepless nights, then teenager mood swings | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
and, to top it all, after all that, they go and leave you. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
But I suppose that's the way it should be. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
But imagine knowing your child would never grow up to have that | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
kind of freedom and, in fact, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
would need help 24/7 for the rest of their life. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
Paul and Carol from Stockton-on-Tees have worked tirelessly, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
bringing up their two children. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
One has Down's syndrome, but both also suffer from forms of autism. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
As you can imagine, juggling the pressures of work | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
and home life would never be easy | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
but eventually it all got too much. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
We had got ourselves into this big, dark hole | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and depression was kicking in with me. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
The family life they planned took a different turn with the birth | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
of their first son, Matthew, who was diagnosed with Down's syndrome. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
A lot of our friends couldn't accept him | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
and would cross the road when they seen us coming. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
It was understandably a very difficult time, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
but they managed to pick themselves up. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Paul stayed home and looked after Matthew, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
while Carol went out to work. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
I could earn more than Paul if I went back to work, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
so then Paul became househusband. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Three years later, they had their second child, Ryan. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
With only one wage coming in and an extra mouth to feed, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
money was tight, but the family ploughed on | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
and for years, just about made ends meet with the money Paul | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
received for being Matthew's carer and a top up | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
they got through a benefit scheme to help parents get back to work. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
We just cut down, cut back, things they couldn't do. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
And if the family didn't have enough to deal with, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
when Ryan was about nine, things got even tougher. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Ryan then basically completed an assessment that said | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
he's on the autistic spectrum. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
To be told you have another child | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
with an additional need | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
is devastating. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
You now know that Ryan is going to need extra support | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
and he is going to need you to be there. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
There was a pressure of that, there was a pressure of I needed to | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
be at home, but I was a breadwinner, so I needed to be at work, as well. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
And all that takes its toll over time. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
But the family was about to be dealt another blow. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Due to some changes in the benefit system, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
some of the money that was being used to top up Carol's income, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
money that the family had come to rely upon, stopped. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
One of the answers was for Carol to work more hours, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
but all of her spare time was being taken up caring for her | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
children and their growing needs. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
'There's been times where we've gone,' | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
"Oh, my God, what the...?" | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
you know, "What are we doing? We can't go on like this." | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
For Carol, it was inevitable that things had to change. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
'My doctor suggested' | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
that I either concentrate on work | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
or I concentrate on my home life | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
but I can't do both. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
'And that's the time when it was decided, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
'for mental health reasons,' | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
'I had to give up work.' | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Giving up work was a hard decision, as they knew that, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
without Carol's income, they'd now struggle to make ends meet. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Carol and Paul had been through some really tough years | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
and they'd spent so much of their time and energy looking after | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
the boys, they'd forgotten that they needed looking after too. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
It's times like that you could really do with some help. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
Carol was put in touch with the George Hardwick Foundation - | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
a charity that offers help for those caring for young ones. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
I think a lot of people like Carol come to us | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
for support in difficult times. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
In the past, many people would get into major financial difficulty - | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
they'd run up debts that they couldn't pay, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
and they'd come to us when in crisis. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Paul and Carol desperately needed someone to look at | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
whether they were entitled to any additional benefits. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Having a little more income | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
would completely transform the quality of life | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
for the whole family. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
And after a few weeks of making phone calls and form-filling, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
there was finally something to smile about. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Our benefits advice workers helped her claim carer's allowance, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
which they were getting for Matthew, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
and they didn't realise that they could actually, you know, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
because one was caring for Matthew full-time, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
the other could actually claim it for Ryan, as well. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
It meant the pressure was off and we were allowed to live a little. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
But for Carol, the support she needed wasn't just financial. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
If you're looking after a child, you're doing it 24/7, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
your world revolves around that, you don't have time for a social life, necessarily. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
Carol was put in touch with a support group where carers | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
get together over a cuppa and talk through the stresses | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
and strains of bringing up kids that need a lot of help. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
It was great just having somewhere to go that understood. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:52 | |
I'd found an outlet, I wasn't getting depressed, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
I was coping better at home, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
which in turn meant the pressure was taken a little more off Paul. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
But it didn't stop there. The foundation has all sorts of | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
facilities that Carol and the boys can use. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
From a relaxation centre with massage rooms, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
to an in-house cinema for afternoons out, something | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
which for years had seemed almost impossible. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
I'm not saying it was easy, it still had its challenges, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
it still had its struggles, but we were out there and we were doing it. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
And previous to that, we hadn't been. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
The George Hardwick Foundation had worked wonders for Carol, Paul, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
and the boys, but just at the point when they were starting to | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
get a grip on things, they were thrown another curve ball. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
The concerns for Carol, at this point in time, were that her son, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Matthew, is turning 19 | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
in February, and there's all sorts of changes | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
coming through at that stage in his life. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
So, basically, with him approaching 19, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
the options are to make a choice. Does he claim benefits in his own | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
right? Or do we continue in terms of the child benefit and child | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
tax credits side of things, which you currently get for him? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
'Making the right decision will be crucial | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
'if the family's going to continue to keep their heads above water. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
'But Carol's confident she's now in safe hands.' | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
'I think that's the biggest thing, we're not hitting crisis points now.' | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
If we know something's coming up, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
like a major change that's about to happen, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
we'll make an appointment and we'll get some more benefits advice. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Carol's life's been changed beyond recognition and knowing just | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
how much she's been helped, she's wanted to give something back. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
She now heads up a support group called Stockton United For Change. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
If we can stop one family from hitting crisis point... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
..then, to me, that's what it is about. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Carol, Paul and the boys owe a lot to the foundation | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
and thanks to them, they can now enjoy life as a family once again. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
Now, we can look to the future, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
which is something we've never, ever thought of. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
'It's not just about getting benefits advice or counselling, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
'or going and having a massage and a therapy and a relaxation,' | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
it's about the practicalities to get you through life | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
and on the right course. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
With all the time and energy that Carol and Paul have | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
put into their family, it's great to see a smile back on their faces. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
And hopefully, with all the help and support they're getting, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
from here on in, it's onwards and upwards. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
And now, back to the scroungers, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
where Croydon Council investigators believe they're hot on the heels | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
of a large-scale housing benefit fraud that could be rinsing | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
the public purse of tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Tell me about your team and what you do. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
I've got a team of ten investigation staff. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Our job is to look at any allegation | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
of fraud across the Borough of Croydon. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
We've got a whole variety of ways we do that, we have access | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
to paper records, we've got technology that we use, as well. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
And they were going to need it, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
cos this was looking like no other ordinary case. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
They'd already uncovered claims from a number of hijacked identities | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
linked to several empty and derelict flats. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
A lot of the claims came from St James's Road, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
which is right in the heart of the borough, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
but we noticed there were some as far north as Silverley Road, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
and all the way out in the south to Godstone Road. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
One of the names on their radar, Emmanuel Ikem, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
was the only benefits claimer they could verify | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
had a genuine national insurance number and was based in Croydon. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
But after months of trawling boarded-up houses | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
and sifting through council records, they'd hit a dead end. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
That was until a call came in from a local bank, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
who suspected one of their customers was doing something a bit dodgy. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
I know what you're thinking, but no, it wasn't Emmanuel Ikem. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
They were looking into accounts in the name of Jermaine Douglas | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
and they noticed that there were a number of housing benefit | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
payments going into three accounts and they were wanting clarification. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
The team had a new name in their sights, Jermaine Douglas, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
whoever he is. Here's the interesting bit, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
not only was he registered as living at the same address as some of the | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
fake claimants, but he was getting their housing benefit payments. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
For each of those claims, he was getting as much as £160 a week | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
going into each of those accounts. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Maths isn't my strong point, but if they're getting 160 quid | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
a claim, multiply that by ten or so claims, then that is... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
That's quite a lot. But it's just the tip of the iceberg. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
The team soon traced more of the fake claim payments to other | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
accounts, this time in the name of Daniel Adelosoye. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
And that wasn't all. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
A number of the claims, they were asking for benefits | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
to be paid into business accounts. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
When we made enquiries, we found that that account was in the name of Ikem. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:55 | |
So it looks like Ikem, Douglas | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
and Adelosoye were up to their necks in it, and even using business | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
accounts to try and further disguise the fact that they were | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
creaming benefits to the tune of tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
With three names and three accounts, it was looking like a gang. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
That's what Graham Clark thought, anyway, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
until he saw their photographs. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
We did already obtain driving licences in the names of Ikem, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:24 | |
and Jermaine Douglas. In our opinion, they were the same person. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
I mean, there is an uncanny resemblance, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
but they could be twins with different names. No. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
If the team's hunch was right and Ikem and Douglas were the same | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
person, they'd be a step closer to unravelling this fraud. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
We needed a professional opinion. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
So we went back to the National Anti-Fraud Network. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
All the team could do now is wait anxiously for the outcome. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
They confirmed that they were the same person. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Now, this was a key moment | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
because many of the payments of housing benefits had been | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
sent to a bank account in the name of Jermaine Douglas. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
We now knew that Jermaine Douglas was Ikem, and Ikem was Douglas. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
Quite simple, really. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Ikem told the authorities he was now called Jermaine Douglas then | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
reapplied for a passport in that name. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Once you've got the passport, you can get a bank account, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
one with a different name to funnel false claimants' money through. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
But that wasn't all they found. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
We also knew that the documents that we held, that there was | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
a driving licence in the name of Daniel Adelosoye that had | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
the photograph of Emmanuel Ikem and Jermaine Douglas on it. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
So we knew we were dealing with one person at this stage, not a gang. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
So Ikem was posing as three different people, which would make | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
him three times as hard to catch, I suppose. Well, in theory. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
So, you've got three separate identities for Emmanuel Ikem. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Does it stop there? What happens next? | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
This has been a very complex fraud. Over a number of years, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
but still quite a short period, set up so many identities | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and successfully used them to get into the benefit system. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I've been investigating fraud for about 15 years, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
and this has been a very, very complex fraud to have committed. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
What we're doing now is we're starting to look down at how many | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
times this identity has been used. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
After sifting through hundreds of documents, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
they finally pieced it all together. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
And it was much bigger than they ever imagined. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
We found out about, including his own name, he had in total | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
made 17 different claims using 14 different identities. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
The housing benefit loss to the public purse has | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
been in excess of £127,000. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Now, that's a substantial amount of money. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
You might be wondering what sort of family a benefits cheat comes from. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Well, take Mrs Ikem. I think you'd like her. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Honest, trustworthy, you know, the sort of person that would | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
report someone to the council if she thought they were up to no good. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Hello? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
'We actually had a telephone call from Mrs Ikem' | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
and she was concerned that there was mail arriving at her own | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
address for somebody that she thought might be committing benefit fraud. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
Now, as it turned out, this was one of the aliases, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
one of the false claims that her son was running. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
So, not only yet another crooked claim to add to the list, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
but he's now been dobbed in by his own mother. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Surely, the game is up. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Mr Ikem was arrested on 1st June 2012, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
he attended interview under caution. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
At the interview under caution, he chose to read out | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
a pre-prepared statement. Following the statement, he answered | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
all of our questions as "No comment." | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
He did, at the time, also proclaim that he'd committed no fraud. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
The team wasn't buying it. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
But when it wound up in court, would the judge? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
The defence made great play about the fact that he was a regular churchgoer | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
in an attempt to portray him as somebody of good character. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
But, as far as we're concerned, that's totally irrelevant. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
This was a very high profile fraud, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
which involved a large degree of sophistication and planning. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
'And the goody two-shoes act wasn't fooling anyone. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
'He ended up pleading guilty to making 13 false housing' | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
benefit claims, defrauding Croydon Council out of around £99,000. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
And for that, he got two years in the slammer. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
Inevitably, it was going to come crashing down, wasn't it? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
-With so many identities? -I think, with so many identities, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
it always was going to come crashing down around him, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
purely because he'd made it | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
so complex for himself to run or to continue to run this fraud. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
It's a great result, but there's still one mystery. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
He's never explained where he found those names | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
and how he started using them. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
I've been doing this job for 20-odd years, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
and I've only come across similar cases maybe six or seven times. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
He'd have only put as much energy and enthusiasm into doing the right | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
thing instead of the wrong thing, he could have been a formidable talent. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
This is just pure greed and nothing else. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
So the fraud team's work finally paid off. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
After sorting through numerous addresses and identities, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Ikem is now living where he should be - | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
at Her Majesty's pleasure. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 |