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One of the things that makes this country great

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is that whenever we find someone in genuine need, we help them out.

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It's a much-needed hand up when times are tough.

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It's a terrible experience.

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It's like hitting a brick wall.

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But then, whenever there's cash on offer,

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you'll always find someone who wants to steal it.

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He withdrew it all in cash.

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Allegedly, it was for the purpose of repaying loan sharks in part.

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But those who cheat the system will usually get what's coming to them.

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He did plead guilty to all charges.

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This is the world of Saints And Scroungers.

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Saints And Scroungers highlights the worthy and corrupt people

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that are taking money out of our welfare state system.

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On one hand, there are legitimate claimants.

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On the other, you have cheats

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who are bent on ripping off the taxpayer.

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It's a war that's fought every day across the UK.

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Fraud investigators battling to bring the cheats to justice,

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and saints fighting to make sure people in true need

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get what they deserve.

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Coming up on today's show...

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a fraudster bent on ripping off the taxpayer,

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despite being minted...

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He had deposited into his bank account about £327,000.

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..and we meet a family that found help,

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after their situation seemed hopeless.

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The doctors gave up on him,

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and then you get a tiny charity that wants to help,

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and it's like a miracle.

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Fraud investigators not only detect fraud,

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they also work hard to regain the money that's been lost.

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And to do this, they often have to work with other agencies

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and government departments.

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This is a story about how someone

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who thought they could get away with playing the system

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came up against more than they bargained for.

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Meet 60-year-old Martin Wright,

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who worked as a part-time cleaner

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and needed help with benefits because of his low income.

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I've come to the Insolvency Service

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to meet with Liz Thomas, who was the official receiver

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responsible for looking into his case,

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along with investigators from other organisations.

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Let's talk about Martin Wright.

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When did he first flick up on your radar?

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15th March, 2010,

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when the Colchester County Court made a bankruptcy order against him.

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He owed money to Tendring District Council,

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and they asked the court to make him bankrupt,

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to try and force him to pay.

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So once somebody's been made bankrupt,

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what does that mean for them in the immediate future?

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Well, it means that any assets that they have

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at the date of the bankruptcy order belong to the bankruptcy estate.

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But it does mean that your assets, they're not yours any more?

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They're taken and they can be realised, as you say,

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-liquidated, turned into money, to pay off your creditors.

-Yes.

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And Martin Wright's creditors, Tendring District Council,

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were not just seeking to get money back that he owed to them.

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This was money that had been stolen from the taxpayer.

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Nicola Russell was the fraud investigator in charge of the case.

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Mr Wright was working as a cleaner for a cleaning company.

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He advised that he was working around 16 hours a week.

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He had stopped claiming benefit for a short while,

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a couple of years, and then re-applied,

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because he had bought a property in Frinton-on-Sea.

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In total, over a seven-year period,

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Martin Wright claimed £17,864

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in housing and council tax benefit,

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which he was entitled to, given his low earnings.

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However, his claim came under the spotlight

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when fraud investigators became suspicious about his true income.

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Mr Wright's claim came to my attention due to the benefits team.

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They'd asked Mr Wright for some wage slips

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for his new company that he worked for.

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These wage slips were in the same format

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as a previous company he worked for,

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therefore, they were suspicious that something was wrong.

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Wright was claiming that he now worked

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for a company called Help At Hand,

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and investigators decided to check out this employer.

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There's no details anywhere that I could say

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that there was a company that existed.

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Maybe Wright had made a mistake,

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or maybe he just made up his employer,

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but why would anyone do that?

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Nicola didn't waste any time in going to find out.

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As I couldn't find any information on Mr Wright or the company,

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I decided I would make a visit to the property where he lived.

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When I arrived at the property in Frinton-on-Sea,

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it was a large, detached property.

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To me, it didn't look like

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a property that someone was claiming benefit from.

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It definitely doesn't sound like a place

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that a cleaner on a very low wage would be living in.

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Nicola couldn't interview Wright

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properly there and then,

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but when she did eventually get to put specific questions to him,

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he told her that the information they had for him was correct,

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except for one important detail.

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I then took a statement

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from Mr Wright. Mr Wright confirmed that

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they had one Barclays account,

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and that they were on a low income,

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and he was earning approximately £80 a week.

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Mr Wright said he worked for a company called Clean 205.

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Hold on, Clean 205?

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I thought he worked for a cleaning company called Help At Hand!

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While companies

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of similar names might exist

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and, of course, people do change the company they work for,

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this new information raised more questions for the investigators.

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The fact the wage slips provided looked similar

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prompted suspicion that Wright didn't actually

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work for either of these companies

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and had falsified the pay documents.

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Nicola decided to go and have

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another chat with Wright,

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to get to the bottom of his employment situation.

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I knocked on the door

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and it took some time for Mr Wright to come round from the back.

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When I questioned Mr Wright if that was his name,

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he said, "No, it's not me."

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Mr Wright denied that he was himself.

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I did ask to speak to Mrs Wright,

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and she eventually did come to the door.

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I was only able to speak to Mrs Wright,

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as Martin Wright refused to be interviewed by me.

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So Martin Wright had been giving false information to the claims team

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and had clearly been trying to avoid the investigators

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when they came round to question him.

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There was something wrong with Mr Wright,

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and the team needed to try a different tack

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to get to the bottom of what was going on.

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After the interview, I sent a letter

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to Mr and Mrs Wright,

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asking for bank statements and wage slips.

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The new wage slips advised a different company

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that Mr Wright worked for, Star Hygiene Ltd.

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Hold on, now he was saying he worked for another company,

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a different employer. The investigators had asked Wright

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the same question three times and got three different answers.

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Nicola's team focused on finding out

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who was behind this latest cleaning company, Star Hygiene,

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and also did a bit of digging to see if Wright had any other income.

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As I was unhappy with the information

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that Mr Wright had supplied to me,

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I decided to run some checks through Companies House.

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He had no current companies open at the time that I checked.

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However, when checking his wife's name,

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I could confirm that

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she did have a current company that was not dissolved.

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This company was called Star Hygiene Ltd,

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which was the company that was on Mr Wright's wage slips.

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Wright had been working for his own wife's company.

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Didn't mention that on his claim form!

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Investigators suspected that Wright must have been getting

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more than what he'd stated his weekly wages were,

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especially when they found out just how successful the company was.

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Additionally, I checked Land Registry

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and found that they had an undeclared property

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that was registered under the company name.

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The Land Registry check showed that Mrs Wright owned the property

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and that they'd bought it just after

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the housing benefit claim had finished,

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but they didn't advise it

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when they re-applied for council tax benefit.

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They had two houses.

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Seems like Mr Wright had not been particularly honest

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while making his benefit claims,

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and while there was no suggestion

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Mrs Wright had been involved in any wrongdoing,

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further digging revealed some more interesting information.

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Mr Wright wasn't just a cleaner at his wife's firm.

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He was in charge.

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So, Martin Wright wasn't just a low-paid employee,

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he was, in fact, the boss of a very successful company.

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And they were about to find evidence to show just how successful it was.

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I found out Mr Wright had a hidden business,

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therefore, I knew he must need a bank account to put the money in.

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Therefore, I did a credit check on him.

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Through the credit check, I found an undeclared bank account.

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Getting the statements from this bank account,

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I found that he had £98,000

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going through this account

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over two years.

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£98,000 - that's serious cash.

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With the evidence stacking up against Wright,

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the fraud investigators decided to bring him in

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for an official interview under caution.

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When he was questioned about the money in his accounts,

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he said this wasn't his money.

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Mr Wright was asked about

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the undeclared property

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and he would not admit it until he was shown the Land Registry.

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I asked him if he still owned the property, and he said it was sold.

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Wright seemed to have an explanation for everything.

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But eventually, he did admit that he'd fraudulently claimed

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over £17,000 in benefits from the council.

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Mr Wright was charged with five offences -

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for failing to declare a bank account,

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failing to declare that his wife had a directorship,

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and failing to declare a property.

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He did plead guilty to all charges.

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The fraud team had their man.

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But would they get the council's money back?

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Mr Wright refused to pay any of his overpayments.

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Therefore, we decided to go through the insolvency services

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for bankruptcy action to be taken.

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For now, though, it's farewell to the fakers and fiddlers

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and hello to the people we call our saints.

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Those in society that help others in real need,

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but who are too proud,

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or often don't know how to claim what they're entitled to.

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Taking the decision to start a family is a big plunge,

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and it can put stresses and strains on a relationship,

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even when things go smoothly.

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But when things turn out in a way you hadn't expected,

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well, that's when our welfare system and support groups are invaluable

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in helping people to find a different kind of family life.

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Carol Terrell was happily married, had a good job,

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and was hoping to develop her career

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after she returned from maternity leave.

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There were complications during the birth of her first baby,

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Charles, but when he did eventually arrive, she was overjoyed.

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His jet black hair and his blue eyes,

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and...oh, he was beautiful.

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I just loved him from the day I saw him.

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Just an amazing feeling,

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to have this special child in your hand.

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Staff at the hospital told Carol that Charles was fine,

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but she did notice a few things about him

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that didn't seem quite right.

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He had a very strange cry.

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It wasn't a normal baby cry.

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His eyes just stared at you. There was no emotion in his face.

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He didn't hold anything, but we thought that was normal.

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We weren't sure.

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Something was wrong.

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Carol took Charles to a private doctor to get a second opinion,

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and they discovered that he had problems with his digestive system

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which would need an operation.

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They also identified the first signs of some kind of brain disorder.

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It was a very difficult Christmas,

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knowing that you were having to face an operation

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in the New Year for him,

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and not knowing whether this was going to work.

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And even if it did work,

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how do you face life with a child that's got brain damage?

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How are we going to cope with this?

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What is his future?

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Charles underwent a successful operation

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to correct the digestive problems,

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but doctors said there was nothing medically they could do

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to help him with the many other problems

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that were preventing his development.

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The prognosis was that there was no reason why

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he wouldn't have a normal lifespan,

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but that possibly,

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he could lie on the floor for the rest of his life.

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When doctors said there was nothing more

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they could do for Charles medically, well,

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that's when Carol thought she had nowhere left to turn.

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Then a friend told her about BIBIC,

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a charity that offers practical advice and support

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for parents that have children with developmental problems,

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Jeanette Saunders is a senior developmental therapist

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in the organisation.

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Charles first came to BIBIC when he was 11 months old.

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He could only roll just a little bit

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and his head control was quite poor for an 11 month old.

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The staff at the charity conducted a two-day assessment

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with Charles to work out a programme for Carol to carry out.

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We discovered that Charles was hyperextending,

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which means he was throwing himself backwards and tensing his muscles.

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His hands were fisted, so he wasn't opening them

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and exploring as he should be, or holding objects.

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He had very little balance,

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he wasn't sitting, and his head control was very poor.

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So we devised a programme to address all of those issues.

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'This was actually giving me a routine,'

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with smells, with tastes, with exercise.

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Five, four, three, two, one.

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Finish. Good eating.

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It all seemed to be going well,

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but when cracks appeared in Carol's relationship with her husband

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and he decided to leave the family home,

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Carol's world fell apart and she struggled to cope with everything.

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I was in a lot of debt.

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I couldn't work, I was totally reliant on benefits.

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Having to get the children to school...

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Eventually, my dad stepped in and he took the children to school for me

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and I collected them, so it just gave me a break.

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'He doesn't always go through the night, so you're tired,

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'so you need to somehow find some time during the day to sleep.'

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It was very, very difficult.

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Looking after a child with the sort of difficulties

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that Charles has would be hard for any parent,

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but doing it alone and with no income took its toll.

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The charity helped Carol navigate the complex benefit system

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and she received housing benefit, income support,

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Disability Living Allowance and Carer's Allowance, which helped

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a little, but it was still a tough time for the family.

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It really did affect Mum.

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She kind of... She wasn't herself.

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I guess she was depressed.

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The day my husband left...

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BIBIC have been amazing.

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They gave me a bursary to continue the programme,

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and never have not seen him. They've never rejected him.

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They've always been there.

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With Charles's future with the charity secure,

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Carol could concentrate on delivering his programme,

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and everybody in the family

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would have an important contribution to make.

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From experience, it is important to involve the whole family.

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Siblings can feel left out, or not involved.

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With BIBIC's help, we got Charles to walk,

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and it's such a transformation to see this boy who...

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at...I think it was three years old was still lying on beanbags,

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who still couldn't get up. We then saw this transformation,

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and we saw him walk, and we're developing his speech right now.

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The programme, that included exercises

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to develop Charles physically and mentally,

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was providing astonishing results when he started school.

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Charles progressed in a way that we never expected him to,

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and it was enhanced by the BIBIC programme.

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When I knew what they were doing at school,

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BIBIC showed me how to do those things,

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and we enhanced his programme at home.

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But when it came for Charles to move on to secondary school,

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it wasn't going to be a straightforward transition.

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We had a problem with the school saying,

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"No, we don't want to take him," having said that they would.

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Charles had been out of school for two years,

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but with the help of the team at the charity,

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Carol succeeded in getting him a place back in full-time education.

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And during this time,

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the team also provided some advice for Carol

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that proved crucial in Charles's next stage of development.

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BIBIC then recommended me, while he was out of school,

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to join Scouts, so as to give him something to do.

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So we started Scouts in 2008,

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and that was the best thing we've ever done.

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It was giving him people to mix with, and the leaders were amazing.

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David Ward was one of the Scouts

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that Charles became friends with after he joined.

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Everyone kind of interacts with him. He responds well to them.

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And no-one kind of thinks,

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"Just cos he's slightly disabled, we're not going to include him."

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In all the teamwork and stuff, in all the games,

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he's always been put straight in a team.

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Everyone kind of accepts him,

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and they've taken quite a liking to him.

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Push the mouse... You can do it.

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David and Charles hit it off so well

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that Carol decided to make David an offer he couldn't refuse.

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The charity had helped the family access direct payments -

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these are a government benefit which enables people with disabilities

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to have the freedom to choose and pay for their own care

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and services to suit their own needs, and Carol knew

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the best way to spend Charles's money was by employing David.

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Carol happened to mention that

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they'd got the extra time given to them for a carer,

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so I took on that role,

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and I've been doing it for about a year now.

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And since then, we've got him up climbing walls,

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we've got him bouldering, which is low-level climbing,

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we've got him jumping in rivers, canoeing, kayaking.

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It's just great seeing him achieve all the stuff he does.

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It's a weight off my shoulder, because this means

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he is now being treated like a normal teenager,

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without Mum being around,

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and he's got a nice young lad that's happy to deal with his needs,

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but also treats him normally, which Charles prefers.

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And he hasn't stopped there.

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Charles's journey continued last year, when he carried

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the Paralympic torch with other members of his Scout troop.

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Charles just loved it, absolutely loved it.

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And he enjoyed all the people shouting at him

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from the balconies, and we were running alongside him.

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It was so nice to see BIBIC's work.

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He carried it for all the people that supported us,

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from the church, from BIBIC,

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all the Scout people who have been there for him

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and have supported him,

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and I felt that day he carried it,

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it was like landing on the moon and...thank you.

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No doubt Charles will have other challenges in his life

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as he moves on, but with the help of the charity

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and the support of his family,

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he is now well equipped to deal with whatever life has to throw at him.

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Now, though, it's time to return to our self-serving scroungers.

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The Fraud Investigation team at Tendring District Council

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have successfully prosecuted Martin Wright for illegally claiming

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over £17,000 in housing and council tax benefit.

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After securing a conviction for the benefit fraud,

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Tendring District Council

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referred the case to the Insolvency Service

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after Wright refused to pay back the money

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he'd stolen from the taxpayer.

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OK, so this is fairly straightforward, then.

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He's defrauded the council from benefits,

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he has to pay those back, he can't do it,

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therefore, the council is asking the court

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to make him bankrupt, insolvent.

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I think in this case, it's a case of he wouldn't pay the money back,

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not necessarily that he couldn't.

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We had already spoken to Tendring Council, who had indicated to us

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that Mr Wright had had quite a considerable amount of money,

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so we had a look in his bank accounts,

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and looked at the period prior to the bankruptcy order,

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and we found that in August 2009,

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he had deposited into his bank account

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about £327,000.

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So, where did that money come from?

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The money came from the sale of a property,

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and it was the net proceeds after payment of the mortgage.

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So he sold a house, and the difference between

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-the mortgage and the amount he sold the house for is that 320,000?

-Yeah.

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Wright had been sentenced to nine months' imprisonment

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for the benefit fraud, but if he thought that

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when he got out, that would be the end of the matter,

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well, he didn't quite appreciate how investigating authorities

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work together to protect taxpayers' money.

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It was now Liz's responsibility

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to try and see how Wright could repay Tendring District Council

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the £17,864 that he owed to the taxpayer.

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So you go to him as he is released from jail, or some days afterwards,

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and what do you say, exactly?

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Well, we go through a questionnaire of questions

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which look at establishing what assets he might have,

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and also establishing what other creditors he might have.

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-OK, so what did he have?

-Nothing.

-Nothing at all?

-No.

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-That's what he told you?

-That's what he had.

-He had nothing?

-No.

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-So, you looked in his bank accounts?

-Yes.

-Nothing?

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Not at the date of the bankruptcy order, no.

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You checked... Where did he live at that point? Was he homeless?

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-He was in rented accommodation.

-So, nothing there, no asset.

-No.

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What?! He sold his property

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and withdrew the proceeds from his account

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at exactly the same time that he owed Tendring District Council

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the 17 grand he'd ripped off from the taxpayer.

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So what's your next move, then?

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What can you do at this point as a sanction?

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Well, I have quite wide-ranging powers as an Official Receiver,

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and one of those powers allows me to look at individuals' conduct

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before they were made bankrupt, and to make an assessment of

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whether I think that that conduct is reasonable.

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And in this case, I assessed that it wasn't reasonable,

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and in those circumstances, I can make application for

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a Bankruptcy Restrictions Order. Because Mr Wright

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signed a Bankruptcy Restrictions Undertaking,

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which is a legal document whereby he agrees to abide by the restrictions.

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OK, so he's a bankrupt for longer,

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but it's still not really

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A) getting your money back for Tendring Council,

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and it's not really...doesn't really feel like a punishment,

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cos he's playing fast and loose with bankruptcy anyway.

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But in this case, we also submitted a report to

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the Department For Business, Innovation & Skills' legal team,

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because we felt that there was criminal actions, as well.

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The Department For Business, Innovation & Skills

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has a special investigation section, which was created to make sure

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insolvency and bankruptcy aren't abused.

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Ian West was the Investigations Officer in the department

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that was given Martin Wright's case to consider.

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The suggestion of criminality was the fact that he had a property

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which nobody knew about

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until the Official Receiver made their enquiries,

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which was worth some £500,000.

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The equity in the property was some £327,000.

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And when he sold that property, he withdrew the proceeds,

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contrary to the bankruptcy order.

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He withdrew it all in cash and, allegedly,

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it was for the purpose of repaying loan sharks in part,

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and I think he might well have said that

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-he gambled other parts of it away.

-Ian and his team

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had to work closely with Liz at the Insolvency Service

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to establish the case against Wright.

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We had all the documentary evidence provided to us.

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So then what we have to do is reduce it to evidential form

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by taking witness statements.

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A key aspect of the case for investigators

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at the Department of Business, Innovation & Skills

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was the timing of the sale of Wright's property.

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But before they could tackle that, they had to establish the facts.

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The Land Registry records all sales and purchases of property,

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so by going to Land Registry, you can get the details of

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who sold and who bought the property,

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and the amount that it was bought for.

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So that actually proves the fact that he had ownership of it,

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what money he got from it, where that money went.

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And when it did go to court, Wright was found guilty again -

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this time, for bankruptcy offences.

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Martin Wright received an immediate custodial sentence of six months.

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Another good conviction for the team.

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And all of the authorities

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involved in this case plan to keep pursuing Wright,

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to get back that £17,864

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that he still owes to taxpayers.

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If any assets can be found that he has,

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then they will be taken possession of by the trustee in bankruptcy,

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who is the Official Receiver.

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So there's a warning, then.

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You may think you've hidden the money well,

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but the authorities won't rest until they've reclaimed every penny.

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