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Here in the UK, we're lucky to have things like transport networks, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
Legal Aid and free healthcare. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
I'd like to think my taxes went to the NHS, to elderly people. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
We are lucky to have the National Health. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
When you are ill, they do come up trumps. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
These services are mostly paid for by us, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
the taxpayer, and, on the whole, we don't mind. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But what happens when someone tries to steal from the system? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
It is a criminal offence. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
I think that's wrong that doctors take money from the NHS, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
because it's really the people who need it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Ridiculous! | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
With the economy as tough as it is, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
it's more important than ever that those who nick from the system | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
don't get away with it | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
and those who need help get it. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
This is the world of Saints & Scroungers. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Coming up, the scroungers who are out to beat the system. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
A fraudster who worked his way to the top of the NHS ranks, | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
swindling half a million pounds, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
despite never having qualified as a doctor. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
This is the kind of investigation we take extremely seriously, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
because patient safety is at stake. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
And we meet a family in need of help when their son is refused benefits | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
despite being diagnosed with cancer. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
In the department's eyes, his care needs were not any greater | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
than any other nine-year-old. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
We were flabbergasted. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
The NHS is full of unsung heroes - | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
doctors, nurses, paramedics. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
They train for years and work long, hard hours | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
to make sure we are safe and healthy. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
And when we're in their hands, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
we trust them completely. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
But every so often, along comes a fraudster | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
who wants to take a short cut to the top. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Meet Conrad De Souza. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
This man was put in a position of trust, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
working within the top ranks of the NHS | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
to make decisions about care for heart disease and stroke patients | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
in southeast London. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
So why in October 2011 | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
was he put behind bars? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I've come to NHS Protect, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
the department that tackles fraud and security in the health service, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
to meet Sue Frith, who heads up national investigations. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
OK, so let's talk about this guy. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
What were the roles he was holding within the NHS? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
He was a clinical director. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
He was on a network for cardiac care | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
in the southeast. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
It was a very responsible job and he was working with other clinicians | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
and making decisions, so although he wasn't clinically treating patients | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
and sitting with people as a GP would, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
he was making decisions that affected people's healthcare | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
in that area of London. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
So De Souza wasn't a doctor who would see patients directly, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
but he had the power to make vital decisions about their healthcare. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Not unusual. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
And he'd spent a decade working his way up the ranks to that position, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
since first being hired by the NHS in 1999. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
But a decade later, the CSA - the Child Support Agency - | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
suddenly cast a shadow of doubt over everything De Souza stood for. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
I believe it was in 2010 when the Child Support Agency | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
had some concerns about him. They had their own inquiry. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
During that inquiry, they brought up some facts | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
that they thought we'd be interested in in relation to Mr De Souza's qualifications. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
The CSA was already investigating De Souza | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
at a former girlfriend's request | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
after he denied being the father of her baby. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Unbelievably, De Souza had provided someone else's DNA sample | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
in an effort to dodge maintenance payments for his own child. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Not great behaviour by anyone's standards. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
But whilst the CSA were examining De Souza's personal affairs, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
his professional life also became a real cause for concern. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
The case was assigned to Dave Horsley | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
to fully investigate. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Once we got the allegation in | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
from the Child Support Agency, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
we contacted Lewisham Primary Care Trust | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
to see what paperwork they had in relation to Conrad De Souza. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
And that meant getting a copy of his application form and the CV. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Back in 2002, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
De Souza had applied for a role as clinical advisor for coronary heart disease and stroke patients. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:20 | |
This is the CV that Conrad De Souza provided in support of his applications for employment. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
And if we look at the form, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
we can see that he claims first of all to have a BSc | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
from the University of Cambridge in biochemistry and chemistry | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
in 1987. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
We made inquiries with the University of Cambridge | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and established that not only does he not hold such a degree, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
but he'd never actually studied there at all. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
OK, so that's not sounding good. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
But there was a whole list of other qualifications. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Presumably, De Souza had just made one silly mistake. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
He then claims to have an MB BS, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
which is a medical degree, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
and we know from making enquiries with University College, London, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
that he did study there for a short time, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
but he didn't pass, he didn't qualify, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
and therefore he doesn't hold that qualification. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Right, now the alarm bells really are ringing. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
A top NHS advisor | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
who may not have any medical training at all. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Worrying that De Souza's CV might be a complete work of fiction, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
Dave decided to check the number he'd given | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
as his entry on the General Medical Council's database. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
All medical doctors in the UK have to be registered with the GMC | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
if they want to practise here. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
We made those checks and found that the number is indeed genuine, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
but the name allocated to that number was not Conrad De Souza | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
but another doctor with a similar name. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
The true doctor who is registered with the General Medical Council | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
probably wouldn't have known. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
So not only had De Souza lied about his qualifications, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
he'd also stolen a legitimate doctor's identity, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
cleverly allowing anyone who employed him | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
a means to check his false credentials | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
on the GMC register. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
With these hooky credentials, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
De Souza had successfully forged a lengthy clinical career. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
As far back as 1999, he'd been employed by the NHS. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
Admittedly, his first role didn't require medical qualifications, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
but soon after that, he was applying for, and getting, jobs that did. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
And in the decade that his work spanned, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
he earned hundreds of thousands of pounds that you and I paid for | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
in taxes and National Insurance. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
We found through talking to people | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
that Conrad De Souza had been describing himself | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
as a doctor for a very long time. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
And certainly from 1999 onwards, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
it would seem that he was starting to sign himself off as being a doctor | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
in communications that he was sending. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
We already know that our conman had succeeded in pulling the wool over everyone's eyes | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
to get the 2002 job in Lewisham. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
But three years later, he was at it again. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
In 2005, Conrad De Souza applied for the job of Clinical Director | 0:07:03 | 0:07:09 | |
for the Cardiac Network, which is a role | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
not having contact with patients, but it was involved in setting strategy and policy | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
for cardiac care within the Lewisham and surrounding area. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
That required him to have a clinical degree and clinical experience. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
So although he didn't work face-to-face with patients, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
De Souza did take on the responsibility | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
of deciding how people with very serious heart or stroke conditions would be cared for. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
And it looked to the investigators that whether driven by greed or arrogance, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
once he started lying, he just couldn't stop. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
When we look at his work history, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
he's claiming to currently hold the post | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
of a GP Principal in a five-partner practice in southeast London. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
He says he runs the minor surgery unit there | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
and a monthly cardiovascular clinic. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Needless to say, he'd done nothing of the kind. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
De Souza had invented his work at one GP practice | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
and then used headed paper from another | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
to invoice Lewisham PCT in 2005. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
All a clever ruse to pretend that he was juggling GP duties | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
with his clinical director role. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
OK, so he was billing you through a GP's practice. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Presumably, he was indicating that he was part of that practice. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Yes. And we spoke to the senior partners there, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
who had no knowledge of him having worked there | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
or could give any explanation as to why payments were being made to him through the practice. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
Unfortunately, the practice manager, who might have been able to help, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
had since retired and we were unable to locate him. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
You're starting to get a picture here. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
You've got fake credentials, you've got him using a GP practice | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
of which he has no involvement at all | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
as a way to siphon the money back through to him. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
-I mean, it's not looking good for him right now. -No. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-No, it's not. -In total, how much did De Souza take from the NHS? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
It was close on half a million pounds | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
over the period of his employment. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-Which is how long? -More or less ten years he was working for the primary care trust. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
I mean, that's staggering, really - not just the sum of money | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
but the fact that he was able to get away with it for that long. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
Can you work out how that happened? | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
We're told that he's a charismatic man. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
We've asked managers at the primary care trust, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
perhaps in hindsight, is there something they should have been aware of? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
And they've struggled to come up with anything | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
that they can say, hand on heart, "Yes, we should have known". | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
He seemed to be very, very good at passing himself off as a credible doctor. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
And De Souza was good. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Good to the tune of £477,000, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
which he earned while pretending to be a doctor. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
He had an enviable lifestyle | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
and part-owned three properties. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
The taxpayer's money would have to be recouped | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
and put back in the NHS coffers, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
so getting the case to court was a matter of urgency. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
We had somebody who was allegedly purporting to be a doctor | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
when they weren't | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
and where patient safety could be a factor, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
then those cases are treated with the utmost priority by NHS Protect | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
and consequently, this case was investigated immediately. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
With the CVs and job applications he had, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Dave thought he could get the fake doctor struck off immediately, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
but what he urgently needed was solid proof of De Souza's wrongdoing | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
to guarantee the clever conman's spot in front of a judge. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Later, the police raid De Souza's house and bring him in for questioning. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
We'll find out if Dave uncovers the hard evidence he needs. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Right, let's put our scroungers up on the shelf for a while | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
and instead say hello to our saints - | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
the good men and women of this country who come to the help of those who really need assistance | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
but are too scared or unsure of how to find it. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Getting a diagnosis with the word "cancer" in it | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
is bad enough, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
but when it's your child who's ill, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
as a parent, it's your worst fears realised. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
And it doesn't just impact on your child's life either. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Of course, it affects the whole family. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
And life for the Duncan family in Fife | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
changed in 2009, when six-year-old Noah told his dad Aaron | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
that something was bothering him. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
One Thursday afternoon when we were walking back home | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
from the shops just up the road, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
he mentioned to me that, for whatever reason, he could see two buses. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
That's when he told me that a friend at school | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
had poked him a bit in the eye. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
And certainly his eye didn't appear to be | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
any major trauma or swelling. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
He hadn't been complaining about it. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
So, at the time, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
we felt maybe it was just him being...you know... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
something and nothing. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
So, at first Noah and his dad thought little of it. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
And when Aaron took his son to the GP a few days later, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
the doctor also thought it was nothing a course of antibiotic drops wouldn't sort out. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
But when things hadn't improved a week later, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Aaron's training as a nurse kicked in. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
He knew they'd have to get Noah's eye checked again. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
The GP sent them to a local hospital to see a specialist. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
The consultant appeared | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and he... | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
basically took five minutes of looking into Noah's eye | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
and he turned round to me and mentioned the words rhabdomyosarcoma. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
Now, I'm a nurse | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
and I heard the word "sarcoma" | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
and suddenly my world changed from trauma to suddenly....cancer. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:54 | |
The diagnosis was of a cancer that was affecting the muscle | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
behind Noah's eye. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Although Aaron had plenty of experience of giving upsetting news to his patients, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
he'd never been on the receiving end of anything like this. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Not only did he have to cope, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
he had to find the strength to break the news to his wife. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
I remember telling Brenda and she just burst into tears. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
I was feeling confused. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
I didn't know what was going to happen. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Kind of scared as well | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
at the same time. Confused and scared. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Noah was referred to the Royal Hospital for Sick Children in Edinburgh. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
The team there thought the diagnosis was correct, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
but they needed to do a biopsy, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
just to be sure how to treat the cancer with the right form of chemotherapy. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
During that time... I think we're talking about a week, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
ten days, something like that, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Noah's tumour started growing quite aggressively, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
resulting in his eyeball protruding a lot more, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
and he was actually unable to close his eye. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
The doctors decided enough was enough | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
and took the decision to go ahead and treat Noah immediately. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Understandably, both parents wanted to be there for their son | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
and they also had their three-year-old daughter, Hannah, to take care of. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Going to work just wasn't an option. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
I stopped doing my agency nursing, understandably, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
and my wife Brenda was off work, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
so at that point, we hadn't... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
we hadn't thought about the financial issue, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
because our main priority was what's going to happen to our child. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
And the fear was that you could see the physical changes | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
which meant that the cancer, the tumour, was growing | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
and that's when you start thinking the worst. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
That you might lose your son. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
They were holding in the tears, if you know what I mean. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Just sad on the inside. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
And worried... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
about me passing away and... | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
all that kind of stuff. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
Although times were tough, the Duncans knew they and the hospital | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
were giving their son the very best care. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
And when the time came to give Noah his first round of chemo, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Aaron was right there with him. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
I do remember at the time wearing a hoodie | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
and Noah... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Instead of going down on a trolley, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Noah wore my hoodie, which drowned him | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and I actually carried him down | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
and I must confess | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
I've never felt so close to someone in my life. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
He felt so vulnerable | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and so scared | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
and I just tried to be his dad. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
And thankfully, after a period of about a week or something like that, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
his eye was beginning to go down. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
The treatment did appear to be working. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
It was during this first round of treatment that the hospital staff | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
put Aaron in touch with Clic Sargent, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
a charity that supports families of children and young people with cancer. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
We help families in three particular ways - | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
emotional, financial and practical help. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
With emotional help, we'll be there for the family | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
right from the point of diagnosis, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
right through to the point at the end of treatment. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
For example, the family will be having to, in many cases, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
make very long journeys to and from the hospital for the child's treatment. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
So we've got some homes from home, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
where the family of the child can stay in comfort, very close to the hospital. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
For Aaron, that was the key. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
The family needed somewhere to stay that was close enough to get to Noah | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
in a matter of minutes, day or night. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
We were then introduced to Clic Villa, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
which is a home from home, on the other side of the street from the hospital, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
where we were given a room | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
and there was the chance to be close to your child | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
while they're on treatment. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
The Clic Sargent team also wanted to help the Duncans get all the benefits | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
they were entitled to. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Their social worker advised the family to apply for Disability Living Allowance for Noah. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
Thankfully, after a three-month wait, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
the money came through. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
The award was made for 18 months. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
I think it was around £200, £300 a month. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
For six months, Noah was in and out of hospital for chemotherapy. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
And the benefits the family was receiving | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
helped them juggle the expenses of normal life | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and hospital stays. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
Thankfully, after 18 months, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Noah was in remission. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
He went back to school. Aaron returned to nursing | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
and the family were glad they no longer needed the Disability Living Allowance. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
The Duncan household returned to normal | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
for a while. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
Because just as things were settling, their world was rocked again. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
The doctor asked me if I'd noticed whether his eye | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
was protruding a little bit more than before. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I said no. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I knew something was wrong. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
The cancer had come back. They didn't know why, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
but what it did mean was that the only way they could remove the cancer | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
and basically save Noah's life | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
would be to surgically remove the tumour. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
And because of where it was, again just behind the eye, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
it meant he would be losing his eye. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
After the operation, Noah had just two rounds of chemotherapy | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
before he was sent home. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Physically, the healing wasn't expected to take long, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
but Noah had psychological scars | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
as well as his physical wound. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
With neither parent being able to work, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
the family decided to apply for Disability Living Allowance again. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
And charity Clic Sargent introduced them to social worker Heather Wilson. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
The DLA application form | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
is a lengthy form. I think it's possibly 30, 40 pages. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
The larger section is actually the care needs, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
and that will go through everything | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
from how many times a child needs help and encouragement and support | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
with their eating, with their washing, dressing, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
all the practical things of daily life. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
This time it was different, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
because there was a lot more psychological aspects. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
There was still the physical - | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Noah had a dressing. He wasn't able to shower himself. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
Had to keep the area dry. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
You've got him getting annoyed at you | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
because you're taking some of his independence away, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
because he's a nine-year-old kid now. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
And then he was scared of you touching it, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
and all of these things, so yeah, something as simple as putting a T-shirt on and off | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
was taking 10, 12 minutes. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
And as well as considering the practicalities | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
of caring for his nine-year-old son, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Aaron realised Noah had huge emotional adjustments to make this time round. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
He wasn't sleeping. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
You'd send him to bed at nine o'clock | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
and you'd find him at midnight reading Harry Potter. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
He was afraid to go to sleep, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
because now at the age of nine, suddenly it wasn't just the change in the way he looked, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
the loss of his eye, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
or anything like that - | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
suddenly he was now thinking about his own mortality. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
And he was scared. He was scared of dying. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Having been granted the Disability Living Allowance | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
the first time with no issues, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
the Duncans had no reason for concern about their second application. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
We got the letter from the DLA | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
and opened it up thinking, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
here we go - it'll probably be like last time. We'll get the 18 months | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
and we'll carry on and that'll help us through, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
but in the department's eyes, his care needs were not any greater than any other nine-year-old, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
so in light of that, no award was made. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
We were flabbergasted. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Heather advised the Duncans to appeal against the decision | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
and after a bit of toing and froing, they were invited | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
to a tribunal hearing. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
The tribunal was January this year. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
They were asking us questions about his mobility, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
the fact that he'd required a wheelchair after surgery. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
So it was really hard, because you were having to go back into a place | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
which you were trying to forget about | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
and a time you're trying to forget about, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
but in the same respect, some things haven't changed, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
like, psychologically, he was still finding it very difficult. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Within the space of five minutes, our representative | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
was called through | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
and she came back | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
and informed us that the original decision was going to be over-ruled. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
We were really happy | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
that finally someone believed what we were saying about our son. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
Noah is now doing well. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
He's in remission and is waiting for a prosthetic eye to be made. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Noah is just absolutely amazing. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
He's back into school and he's getting back into life | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
as much as he can. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
For the Duncans, I think they're almost at the stage now where they're ready to move on. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
We are stronger as a family. We're bigger than cancer. Cancer... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
I think Noah once said about cancer, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
"Beat it, cancer!" | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
I'd like to hope that we have beaten it, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
not just Noah, but as a family. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
In the future, I just want to get on with it. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
I might want to be a rugby player and play for Edinburgh, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
maybe Scotland, or a football player or a goalkeeper. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
I just want to get on with my life, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
do what I want to do, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
whether it's playing rugby or playing football. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
I just want to do it. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
It's now time to return to our conmen making money they really aren't entitled to. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
For a whole decade, Conrad De Souza had been passing himself off | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
as a doctor. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
Not only had he indirectly put patients' health at risk, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
but he'd defrauded the NHS of more than £477,000 in earnings | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
by pretending to be qualified. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
This is the kind of investigation | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
we take extremely seriously, because patient safety is at stake | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
when you have somebody who is not clinically qualified | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
in a position where there is a risk to patients, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
even if it's not a direct risk. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
We had to act quickly. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
In December 2010, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
investigator Dave Horsley had gathered enough damning detail | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
to finally pin De Souza down | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and get him to answer some very important questions. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
NHS Protect officers went to De Souza's home address | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
with the police, at which point he was arrested | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and the police undertook a search of his home address | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
to look for evidence that might assist our investigation. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Now they had De Souza where they wanted him, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
the team could search his property to find hard evidence | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and finally put an end to the conman's trail of deception. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
And what did you find? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
We did find at his address the University of London certificate, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
showing, or purporting to show, that he had a medical degree from them in 1981. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:51 | |
-That must have been a fake, then? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
We were able to take that back to the University of London | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
and they were able to provide examples of genuine certificates that were issued at that time | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
and it was quite obvious, comparing the two, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
that Mr De Souza's one was not genuine. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
It was a great result, and just what the investigators needed. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
But it wasn't the sum total of their haul. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
We also found documents that linked him | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
to the work of the Primary Care Trust, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
so we knew we'd got our right man | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
and we also seized computers and laptops | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
that showed the money that had been paid to him. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Now the team had the proof they needed. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
The next step was to interview De Souza. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
He had a whole heap of explaining to do. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
How did that interview go? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
He made no comment to all of the questions put to him. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
We gave him the opportunity to give an explanation for | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
everything that we had uncovered | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
and he chose to answer none of those questions. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
You really need something from him to explain it one way or the other, don't you? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Absolutely. We were then faced with having to prove the offence from our perspective. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:57 | |
So it's a case of looking at all the available information that's out there | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
and collecting it in a form that's acceptable | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
to the court as evidence | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
and putting the case forward on that basis. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
De Souza was interviewed twice before his case went to court | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
and given ample opportunity to explain his actions, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
but he never did. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
His lawyer offered in mitigation | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
that Conrad De Souza had come from a family | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
of high achievers | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
and the choice of admitting to his family that he'd dropped out of medical school | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
and failed to qualify as a doctor was something which he couldn't face doing. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
And sadly, he took the alternative choice, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
which was to continue the deception. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And that choice would cost him dearly. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
In October 2011, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Conrad De Souza was charged with two counts | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
of obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
This related to his successful job applications in 2002 and 2005, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
which he secured by lying to Lewisham Primary Care Trust | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
about being a qualified doctor. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
He pleaded guilty to both charges | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
and was sentenced to 18 months for each offence, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
to run concurrently. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
He was also given a further nine months in prison | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
for providing the CSA with a false DNA sample | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
to avoid accepting his responsibilities as a father. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
So, a total of 27 months behind bars | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
and a big result for Dave and the team. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
It was a very good result for NHS Protect. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
It sent out a strong message to anybody who might be thinking of defrauding the NHS - | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
you get caught. Crime doesn't pay. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
You can't go around pretending to be a doctor | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
or any other kind of healthcare professional. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
It's something we take very, very seriously at NHS Protect. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
As you would imagine. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Not content with the 27-month prison sentence they'd secured, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Sue Frith's team were also determined to claw back | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
as much of the conman's fraudulent earnings as they could | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
and put the money back in to patient care. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
How about getting that money back so it can be put to a better purpose? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Well, there is something called the Proceeds of Crime Act that we use | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
so we can look at what assets an individual has | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
and how they've benefited | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
from their crime financially | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
and then we would look to seize their assets | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
to pay back that benefit of crime into the public purse. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Although De Souza had earned nearly half a million pounds | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
from his work for the NHS and Lewisham Primary Care Trust, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
at court, an agreement was reached | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
that the value of his criminal benefit | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
was just under £330,000. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
A free man in December 2012, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
having served just 12 months of his sentence, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
Dave made sure De Souza was put back in the dock to settle his debt. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
In court, his assets were determined to be £270,000. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
So the court made an order that he should repay £270,000 | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
within six months, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
which we're pleased to say he did do. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
He paid it back in full. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
So De Souza's shares in his three properties were seized | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
and the £18,000 he'd been looking forward to retiring to | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
was also taken when the NHS clawed back his pension payments. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 |