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In this country, the money we pay as taxes goes to provide | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
essential services that we rely upon every day and | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
it's also there to give us a safety net if things go wrong | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
or life takes an unexpected turn. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
This help comes in the shape of vital support that improves lives. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
Without the benefits, I'd have had to have taken him out of nursery. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But then there are some people who see that money as something | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
they deserve, even when they don't. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
And those who cheat the system tend to get their comeuppance. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Clearly, she was able to make significant profit. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
This is the world of Saints & Scroungers. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Saints & Scroungers highlights people using | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
and abusing our benefits system. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
On one hand, you have the genuine, on the other, fakers and fraudsters. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
While investigators across the UK battle to bring the bogus claimants | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
to justice, the Saints try their hardest to get people | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
the help that they desperately need. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
Coming up on today's show... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
a fraudster operating across two London boroughs | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
using different identities. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
He'd defrauded the London borough of Ealing and | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
Hammersmith and Fulham of £174,000 in housing benefit claims. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:39 | |
And we meet a grandmother struggling to bring up her troubled grandchild, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
who finds help she didn't know existed. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
I'm a very proud woman. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
A very proud woman. I don't like asking for help, really. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Hello, I'm Matt Allwright. I'm a TV presenter. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Luckily for you, there's only one of me, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
but imagine if there wasn't - imagine if there were more of me | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
with different names, but the same face | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
running around all over the country. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
It's a scary thought. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Hello. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
Hola! | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
Funnily enough, that's exactly what some people do | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
to commit benefit fraud. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
They create false identities | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
and then use those aliases to claim more benefits than they deserve. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Go on, get lost. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Accept no substitute! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
Meet Rachid Walid, a 41-year-old French national who worked | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
part-time as a cleaner in a bakery and | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
lived in a rented flat in Acton. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
His wages were so low that Ealing Council paid for his | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
housing costs and his council tax. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
In total, he received nearly £26,000 in benefits over a 22-month period. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Everything appeared to be above board, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
until the Fraud Unit at Ealing Council got a tip-off that | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
some foreign nationals might be using fake IDs. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Manager Sudhi Pathak was in charge of the case. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Islington provided us | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
with some intelligence specifically on fake... | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
the use of fake passports to claim benefits. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
There were a batch of passports that had been stolen from France, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
either from a variety of people or an actual batch from | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
the French authorities themselves, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
so those were the fake passports that are in circulation. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
With the prospect of loads of dodgy French passports floating around, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
Sudhi immediately searched the benefits database in Ealing | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
to flush out any suspicious French claimants. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
We had a fraud profile. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Broadly, they were of Algerian nationality, uh, single males, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
and, in the main, working a low number of hours, part-time hours, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
which, in effect, made them eligible to, um, apply for housing benefit. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
That was the fraud profile that we were after. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Yep, the profile fitted our part-time cleaner Rachid. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Well, almost... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
He was a French Algerian, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
but still pinged up on investigators' suspect list. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Well, Rachid Walid, um, came to our attention and he had provided | 0:04:21 | 0:04:28 | |
a number of documents to us that had fitted that profile of being | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
a single male living in a particular postcode at the time. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
In order to have the claim go through, initially | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
he had to submit his identification, which... He submitted his passport. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
He also had to provide proof of employment | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
and he'd provided a letter from an employer and also payslips. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
Um, and some timesheets to show the hours that he had worked. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Walid had given council officials all of the right paperwork, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
but it needed to be checked. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
C'est incroyable! | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
"It's unbelievable," in French. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
A series of hooky French passports being used | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
to make fraudulent benefit claims. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Time for Ealing Council to channel their energies into investigating. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
Sudhi's Fraud Team now prioritised their investigation into the | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
use of fraudulent French passports and they call it Operation Rapport. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
The lead officer on the team, who's asked for his identity | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
to remain anonymous due to the nature of his job, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
had responsibility for investigating Mr Walid, amongst others. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
His first job was to confirm | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
whether the passport Walid had used in his claim was genuine. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
The French Embassy or the UKBA, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
will normally tell you whether the passport is counterfeit, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
i.e., not on their database at all, or if it's been, um, | 0:05:55 | 0:06:01 | |
substituted photograph, so it's a real person, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
but the passport's been stolen and the photo replaced... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
with that person's identity. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
Now, as EU nationals, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
French people are perfectly entitled to claim benefits | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
when they reside in the UK, but if Walid was in fact Algerian, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
he wouldn't be entitled to anything. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
So, had he been using a fake passport to get access to benefits? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Rachid Walid was confirmed as being a counterfeit passport, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
so they had no record of that individual on their database... | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
um, from the French Embassy. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
'He wasn't French. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
'He was a fake!' | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
The Fraud Team was now on the trail of a suspected benefit cheat | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and the lead investigator started looking at all of the documents | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
that Walid had provided to support his claim. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Checks were conducted with the employer he'd declared initially | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
in his claim for benefit, which was the Baker's Oven. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
And it became apparent that the proof provided for the Baker's Oven | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
was false, was fake. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
He'd never worked for the Baker's Oven, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
they'd never employed anyone by the name of Rachid Walid. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
He'd made up everything about his employer. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
He never worked for Baker's Oven at all, he'd just forged | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
references, timesheets and wage slips to qualify for benefits. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
So, who was this mysterious benefit claimant? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
He was using a fake passport and stolen and false identity | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
to claim benefits | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
and the employer he claimed to be working for had never heard of him. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
It was time for the Fraud Team to get to the bottom of things. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Rachid was now a prime suspect in Operation Rapport and the Fraud Team | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
decided to pay him an early morning visit to find out what | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
he had to say for himself. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
'After we'd gathered enough evidence,' | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
my investigators and the police raided the property on this road. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
We were intending to break into the property | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
if necessary in order to, um, attempt to recover... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
the fake passport, if possible. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I think it was approximately ten to seven in the morning, um... | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
We actually alerted | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
the occupant just by knocking, who then opened the door to us. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
It was then, um... | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
clear from the person that opened the door... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
that they resembled... | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
the person that was on the photo used in the fake passport. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
Bingo. The investigating team had got their man or, at least, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-they thought they had. -We asked if we could speak to Rachid Walid | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
and he stated that, no, he didn't know him | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
and he gave his name as a Mr Brahim Lounnas. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
'So, he didn't know Walid, but was living in a house | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
'registered under that name. That doesn't sound right. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
'The officers had not come across the name Lounnas before, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
'so they decided to make a quick call to find out | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
'if the story from Walid was valid.' | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
'We phoned the number that was provided... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
'on the claim form for Rachid Walid | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
'and the phone started ringing in the house.' | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
MOBILE RINGS | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
So, let's get this straight... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
'the bloke lived in Walid's house, had Walid's mobile phone, and | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
'was a dead ringer for him, but was insisting he'd never met the man. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
'Clearly, he's having a laugh. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
'The investigators now knew that Lounnas or Walid or whatever | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
'he was calling himself was not being honest with them, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
'but he still wasn't going to make their job easy.' | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Mr Lounnas remained silent pretty much throughout the time we were | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
in the property. A full search was conducted in which, um... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
various documents were seized, um, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
including a number of passport photos of the individual. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
The same photos that were used by Rachid Walid | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
in the photo on his passport. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Um, a number of... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
benefit documents relating to Rachid Walid at Ealing. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
A passport and benefits papers all in the name of Walid. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Evidence just doesn't get much better than that. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
It was looking like an open and shut case until the officers | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
turned up even more ID with exactly the same picture on it. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
We found, um, an ID for Brahim Lounnas, an Algerian ID, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:38 | |
an Algerian identity card with his... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
..photo attached. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
So, who was this guy? Lounnas or Walid? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Whoever he was, he'd potentially stolen nearly 26 grand from | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Ealing Council and Sudhi's team had now put together | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
the evidence to prove it. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Back of the net. The team finally had the man, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
but they were also starting to realise that the scale of this | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
man's fraud was much bigger than they'd ever suspected. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
When the property was raided, we found a number of bank statements, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
details of mobile phones, but, more interestingly... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
documents that showed a number of other fake IDs. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
For now, it's farewell to the fraudsters | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
and hello to the people we call Saints. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Those in our society that help others in genuine need, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
but who are sometimes too proud or don't even know how to claim | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
what's rightfully theirs. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Family life, for most of us, is the thing that brings and binds us | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
together and, in many cases, makes us who we are, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
but, when tragedy strikes at the heart of the family, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
it can change your life in a way you never thought possible. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
41-year-old Jackie Somerford was a young grandmother who enjoyed | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
an active social life. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
But her carefree lifestyle came to an abrupt end in 1999 | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
when Bonnie, her teenage daughter, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
found out she was having Jackie's second grandchild. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
Bonnie had a drugs problem and was in an unstable relationship. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
She didn't think she could cope with having a baby | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
and neither did social services. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
So, when Bonnie asked her mother for help with her unborn child, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
Jackie really didn't feel she had any choice. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
I thought... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
well, I'd have to bring this child up cos I couldn't see him going in care. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
And I knew she wasn't in a position, with the partner that she was with, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
to bring this child up. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
In July 2001, Roger was born. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Jackie was hopeful that Bonnie's chaotic lifestyle would change | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and she would grow into the mother she knew her daughter could be, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
but it was soon clear that wasn't going to happen any time soon. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -How are you doing, Jackie? Good to see you. -Come in. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
How did things change for you, practically, when Roger comes along? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
I had to give up work. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
How does that work out financially for you? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Well, it didn't at the time cos I had to go on the state benefit. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
-Not something that you would have chosen to do. -No. Not at all. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Cos I was happy working. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Jackie wanted to provide Roger with a secure and stable upbringing, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
so she applied for and was given custody of him by the Family Court. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
She was determined to give her grandson the same positive | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
start in life that her own three children had. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
When Roger became a toddler, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Jackie realised this was going to be difficult. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
At the age of three, I noticed the behaviour with him. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Um, I'd go up to the nursery to pick him up and he'd have | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
an outburst out there where he would trash the whole playgroup. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
He went to year one and he started to really be bad. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
Um, he wouldn't, um, do any work, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
he would disrupt the class. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-Still, clearly things are wrong. -Yeah. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
'After Roger's disruptions at school, he was assessed by a doctor | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
'and diagnosed with having emotional-social behaviour. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
'He was taken out of mainstream school | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
'and placed in a special needs school. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
'Jackie was struggling to cope with Roger's violent outbursts and | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
'just when she thought things couldn't get any worse, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
'Bonnie disappeared.' | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
I got a phone call from a friend of hers | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
to say that she'd been missing a week. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
So, I told that friend to phone the police and report her missing. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
Bonnie was placed on the Missing Persons List | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and when Jackie eventually heard from the police, nothing | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
could have prepared her for the news that she got about her daughter. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I received a phone call from the police asking to come over... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
..and, um, they came over and they introduced their self to me | 0:15:13 | 0:15:19 | |
as homicide. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
I told them she was dead. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And they asked me, "How did I know?" | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
I said, "Because the week that she was missing, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
"I just had a gut feeling something was wrong." | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Tragically, her gut feeling was spot-on | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
and the police confirmed that Bonnie had been killed. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
It was a nightmare for Jackie, but even as she was grieving for Bonnie, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
she had to stay strong for her grandson, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
who was just six years old at the time. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, there was still Roger I had to think of... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
..and I had to try and shield him. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
But, when he found out about his mum... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
that did have a big impact on his behaviour again. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Jackie wanted to help Roger as much as possible, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
but it was tough for her, as a single gran on benefits, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
to get even basic things like clothes. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-Have you read that one? -Mm-hm. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
She was at a loss about how to provide more for him until | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
she heard about an organisation which might be able to help. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
I heard about the Family Fund through another parent at school. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
The Fund distributes money on behalf of the government to children | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
with disabilities for things that would improve their lives | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
but which they can't afford. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
'Jackie applied to the Fund earlier this year | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
'and she needed some help with' | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
some basic items like clothing | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and was looking for help with her computer. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
'So, we looked at her application form and felt that' | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Jackie really needed to have a visit | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
'by one of our advisors who would go into her home, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
'talk about her application.' | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
'I went to visit Jackie in South London to find out what's happened.' | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
Two weeks after I got me visit, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
I got a phone call from them to say that I've been accepted. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
And that Roger had got his computer. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Do you think it's something that's going to make a big difference? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
Yeah, a very big difference to him. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Would it have been totally outside your budget otherwise? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I wouldn't have been able to afford it. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
How does it make you feel though? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
I mean, you've been through such an incredible story, I mean... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I'm a very proud woman. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
A very proud woman. I don't like asking for help, really. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
The small grant provided by the charity has been | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
instrumental in helping Roger move on with his life. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
And, for fund manager Clare Kassa, it's been a successful case of | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
helping a particular type of family unit that all too often misses out. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
Jackie seemed not to know, really, about Family Fund. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
She didn't really feel that she was due anything from you. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Is that something that you encounter quite a lot? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
We do encounter it quite a lot with grandparents. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
Um, lots of grandparents don't know that the Family Fund exists | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
because they're not linked into the same support networks that | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
other parents are. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
'Jackie's been through some dark times with Roger, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'but this government-funded organisation has helped to | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
'make the future look a lot brighter.' | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
They've helped my family, so, if they can help my family, they can | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
help other families as well, and make life better for a lot of people. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
Jackie's having to steer her family through a series of experiences, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
which, for most of us, are unimaginable AND she's | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
helping her grandson to heal the most painful of scars. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
The help she's receiving may seem small, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
but, when you're trying to be strong, sometimes knowing | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
that there's someone looking out for you can make a huge difference. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
OK, everyone, sit up straight. It's Scrounger time. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
The Fraud Team at Ealing Council have been taking part in a | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
London-wide investigation into fake French passports being used | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
to claim benefits. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
The team discover that a claimant called Rachid Walid had been | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
using a false passport to get housing benefit, but, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
when they raided his address, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
despite looking like Walid, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
he claimed he was someone else. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Brahim Lounnas, um, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
his name came to our attention, um, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
when we visited the property initially... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
looking for Rachid, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
the door was opened by a gentleman who introduced himself | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
as Brahim Lounnas and who looked very similar, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
or identical to, the photograph of Rachid Walid. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Brahim Lounnas was a new name... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
uh, to me. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
It wasn't someone...a name that we were investigating or that we | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
were connected with, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
so, um... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
..it was new to us, but the decision was taken, because | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
of the look and the resemblance, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
that we wanted to go inside and look. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
And it was a good job that the team did decide to search his house, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
because not only did they find fake documents relating to Walid, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
they found other incriminating evidence. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
As the search continued, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
and the different IDs were being found, bank cards, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
cheque books, bank statements in the names of Abdeslem Farahi, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:43 | |
and Kerrime Messikh. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
And benefit documents for Hammersmith and Fulham | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
relating to a Nouredine Messikh. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
So, this wasn't just a case of one man and his alter ego, this man | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
seemed to have a different identity for every day of the working week. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
The team had uncovered a treasure trove of other fake IDs, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
but they still had to find out who was behind the operation. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
The three other fake IDs in the names of Abdeslem Farahi | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
and Kerrime Messikh and Nouredine Messikh were being used to make | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
benefit claims from neighbouring Hammersmith and Fulham Council. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Benefit claims that matched identically the type of claims | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
that suspect Lounnas had been making in the name Rachid Walid. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
And the team in Ealing immediately contacted their colleagues | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
in Hammersmith and Fulham about what they'd found. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
The investigation became a joint investigation between ourselves | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
and Ealing and Hammersmith and Fulham Council. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
They had, um... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
..three different claims in three different IDs. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
They mentioned Abdeslem Farahi, Nouredine Messikh and | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Kerrime Messikh at different addresses | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
going back over various timeframes. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Um, quite a large overpayment of benefit had been made | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
from Hammersmith and Fulham. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
During the search of the house, the investigators found | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
different folders with the names of the three bogus claimants - | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
Abdeslem Farahi, Kerrime Messikh and Nouredine Messikh, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
and fake documents relating to their claims | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
from Hammersmith and Fulham Council. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
They started looking into the other three claims - | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
all of them worked short, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
part-time hours in order to qualify for benefits. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
All were doing the same kind of job | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
and all of their IDs had been stolen according to the French Embassy. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Some people have skeletons in their closet. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
This guy had whole identities in his cupboard - passports, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
bank cards and statements, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
correspondence and all in different names. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
When the Fraud Team analysed the employment documents relating to the | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
benefit claims, they discovered the names of employers had been made up. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
The whole thing was a pack of lies. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
We passed on all our findings to Hammersmith and Fulham and gave them | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
that information and, unfortunately, they had been defrauded as well. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
He'd defrauded the London borough of Ealing, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and Hammersmith and Fulham, of... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Whoa! 174,000 quid - serious money. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
£26,000 had been stolen from Ealing Council. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
And £148,000 from Hammersmith and Fulham. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
The team knew that the fraudster had rented | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
three properties in Fulham, and one in Ealing | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
in order to commit the fraud, but what was he doing with all of them? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
The rents were being paid in the property in Acton on Cotton Avenue, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
but we don't know if he was residing in the Acton property at that stage | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
or in any of the Hammersmith and Fulham properties. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:57 | |
It seems likely that there may have been, in order to obtain | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
financial gain, there may have been subletting taking place in... | 0:24:01 | 0:24:07 | |
..some or all of the Hammersmith and Fulham properties. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
So, he was getting the properties paid for by the taxpayer | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
and then renting them out again. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
For over five years, the fraudster had been a landlord at our expense! | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
The estate agents that managed the properties where | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
the bogus claimants were registered had to be contacted | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
and they turned out to be very helpful. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
I went along to Churchill's Letting Agents and showed them | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
a photo of Brahim Lounnas, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
the person who we had identified at the address who had given that | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
name and they confirmed that the photo of Brahim Lounnas was | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
the same as that for Rachid Walid who had taken out a tenancy | 0:24:51 | 0:24:57 | |
at that address in Cotton Avenue. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Result! An independent eyewitness that could confirm Lounnas has been | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
posing as Walid and when the team interviewed the other | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
letting agencies about the aliases... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
they all confirmed they'd been dealing with Lounnas as well. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Once we'd carried out the raid and carried out further checks, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
we came to the conclusion, we found out that the true identity | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
of this person was Lounnas and all of the other IDs were false IDs. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
Sudhi had to piece the complicated case together | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
and his prime suspect wasn't being very helpful. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
After Brahim Lounnas was arrested, he was brought in for questioning | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
and interviewed under caution. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
He did identify himself as Brahim Lounnas | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
but he refused to comment and didn't answer any of our questions. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
He might have been tight-lipped in the interview room, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
but when he was faced with the judge, somehow he found his voice. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
In January 2012, uh, Lounnas appeared before Isleworth Crown Court, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
and pleaded guilty to 13 charges. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
He was sentenced to serve three years in prison. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
It was a good result for Ealing Fraud Team | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
and it's a case that the council has certainly learned some lessons from. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
In the aftermath of the Lounnas case, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
we decided to take some proactive action | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and what we've introduced is a document ID checker | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
and that allows us to scan passports and to scan driving licences, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
so, as soon as something fake is discovered, we know what's happening | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
and we can contact UKBA and do an investigation ourselves, so, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
hopefully, nothing like this will happen again. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
So, fraudsters beware, you may be good at coming up with new names, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
different haircuts and different faces, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
but, when you end up in jail, the identity you'll be using... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
will be the real one. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 |