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Theft of public money costs the UK taxpayer over £20 billion a year. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
This case was one of the biggest cases we've ever had. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
It came into the region of about £500,000. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
It's money that should be going into the public pot to | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
spend on essential services. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
The victims in this case are the public | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
and the money could have been used to build schools or fund hospitals. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
And throughout the country there are specially trained | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
investigators making sure that justice is served. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
The system cannot be beaten. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
They will be held to account at some point. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
In this series we meet the men and women across the UK committed | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
to catching criminals who steal from you and me, the British taxpayer. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
But we also hear stories from people who genuinely need | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
help from public money. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
I just didn't know where to turn or what to do. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
I just thought I'm just one of them lowlifes who's had an addiction. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
And sometimes they don't even realise they are entitled to it. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
I didn't know there was anything better out there | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
until she started at the institute. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Coming up, a serial fraudster steals millions in tax from all of us | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
in a huge payroll scam... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
They thought he was a top-notch businessman | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
when actually he is a thief and stole tax money. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
..a not so single mother who stole public money... | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
She fraudulently claimed just over £93,000 in state benefits. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
..and the struggle of one woman who may never be able to | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
return to the career she loves. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
I just feel for what I lack in my life, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
which was really, really painful. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Huge houses, expensive cars, designer clothes | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and exclusive jewellery | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
make up the lives of the rich and famous | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and a few criminals in the UK. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
If these goods have been purchased with the proceeds of illegal | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
activity such as tax fraud it's down to financial investigators to | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
claw that money back. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
There are people here trying to make money through serious crime | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
and that's exactly what we're here to target. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
And when the lifestyles of West Midlands organised crime boss | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Thomas Scragg and his cronies came to the attention of Superintendent | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Shaun Edwards a multimillion-pound tax fraud was uncovered. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
There was evidence of that lavish lifestyle. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
There was a house with highly specced equipment, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
hi-tech equipment, very lavish vehicles outside. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
It was the house of a millionaire. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
But that millionaire, as we know now, was through | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
stealing from the taxpayer. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
West Mids Police work alongside the Asset Recovery Team who have | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
seized £126 million worth of goods | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
from criminals in the past decade. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
The Regional Asset Recovery team ethos is effectively to disrupt and dismantle serious | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and organised crime groups utilising Proceeds Of Crime legislation | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
or Criminal Justice Act legislation in order to strip | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
criminals of their ill-gotten gains. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
And stripping these fraudsters of their assets also benefits us, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
the taxpayer. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Once the confiscation process has happened | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
and the auditors have been satisfied then the money effectively | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
comes back into the public purse, into central government. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
When Sergeant Derek Tinsley and his team came up against Thomas Scragg | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
he certainly appeared to have benefited from his day-to-day activities. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
The period of offending was quite short | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
but the returns on that were very significant, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
somewhere in the region of about £38 million that was scammed. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
Scragg came to the attention of the police following a tip-off about | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
a pair of brothers in Wolverhampton, Carl and Anthony Johnson. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
The community came to the police with concerns these were two | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
people who were notorious in the local community. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
They were driving around in very flash cars, in Lamborghinis, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
and the public said to us. "Look at these two, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
"they've got no legitimate income, but they're driving round. It must be crime. Have a look at it." | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
And that was exactly what we did. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
The brothers ran a security company but this didn't seem to be bringing | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
in much business so the team started looking into their bank accounts. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
As the financial investigation developed into the Johnson brothers it was identified that there was a | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
significant amount of money that they were receiving from the Moya group of companies. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
The investigation then focused on the Moya group of companies and it was | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
identified that Thomas Scragg was one of the directors behind that company. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
Therefore we needed to investigate and look at the behaviour | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
and the criminal activity of Mr Thomas Scragg. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Over a ten-month period the Johnsons had received in the region | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
of £2.4 million from Scragg's companies, the Moya group. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
Money had been transferred to both their personal | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and company bank accounts. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
So the team needed to establish why Scragg had been paying | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
the brothers in the first place. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
What we found was they were being paid by Thomas Scragg to | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
provide, inverted commas, "protection" for him | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and that's where we started looking more closely at Thomas Scragg | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
and what was the reason why he needed protection. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
When Shaun ran Scragg's name through the police database | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
he discovered that Scragg had been the victim of a kidnapping. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Kidnapping is a fairly unusual crime although | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
we do find it's a more common crime between criminals where | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
criminals will kidnap each other in relation to criminal vendettas. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
And that's exactly what it was with Thomas Scragg. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
That's why we believe he was kidnapped and why | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
he therefore employed the Johnson brothers to provide his protection. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
As soon as the team started looking seriously at Scragg they quickly | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
found out that he was already on bail for a huge tax fraud. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
On top of that he had a fraud conviction dating back to 2004, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
but had escaped jail after giving evidence on his accomplices. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
It was this previous form which led the police to take a closer | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
look at Scragg's activities. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
On the face of it Scragg purported to have a legitimate business where | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
he offered payroll facilities to construction companies to take | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
away the headaches of paying tax and National Insurance. "You give me a | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
"sum of money for your workers and I'll pay them and I'll sort out their tax." | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
But also he falsely purported through people | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
he worked with that he had a dispensation from Her Majesty's | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Revenue And Customs that he could almost put a blanket on expenses | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
rather than having to claim individual ones. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
And this would have been an attractive option for companies to do that. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
We actually investigated the Moya group of companies in exactly | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
the same way as we would anybody else. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
It's all about the balance between legitimate | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
sources of income against illegitimate sources of income. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
Moya seemed to be making huge profits and it didn't take | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
the investigation long to uncover the extent of the new scam. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
What Moya were doing in effect was a payroll fraud. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
How the whole process of the fraud worked was that the money would come in, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
they would actually pay each employee on the minimum wage, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
they would then make up their original | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
wage from out-of-pocket expenses that they never received. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
So in effect what Moya were doing was stripping the PAYE, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
the National Insurance, from each individual and then retaining that. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
The construction workers who'd entrusted Moya to | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
handle their payroll had no idea Scragg was doctoring | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
the paperwork to send to HMRC, enabling him | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
to siphon off money that should have gone to the taxman from their wages. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
The impact on the workers from the payroll fraud by not paying | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
any tax and National Insurance would be that | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
when the state pension would actually effectively kick in they wouldn't | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
have paid enough contributions in order to receive a state pension, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
or the state pension that they would receive would be far reduced. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Just to put that into context each individual employee was losing | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
approximately £300 per week. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
The deeper the team dug the more they uncovered about Scragg's operation. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
The size of Moya Payroll was huge. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
There were probably somewhere in the region of about 4,000 to 5,000 | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
employees on the books at any one time. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
The sums of money that was passing through the Moya accounts | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
was in the millions per week. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
It was reckoned that Scragg | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and his company were making £6 million a year from this scam. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
So what was he doing with all this cash? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Scragg, as a result of his payroll scam, had an extremely lavish lifestyle. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
High-grade cars, holidays, large house with all the trappings. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
So certainly he did lead the lavish lifestyle. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
It wasn't just Scragg who was living the high life. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
None of the group tried to hide their wealth at all. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
The Johnsons were driving round in top-of-the-range cars, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Lamborghinis, and actually at one point they saw a police officer | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
and said to the police officer, "Who says crime doesn't pay? It does." | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
The operation focused on Scragg and the Johnson brothers but the | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
team was aware they needed to spread the net wider. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Thomas Scragg could not have committed this crime on his own. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
In actual fact he needed professional people around him | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
such as lawyers and accountants and other companies | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
and other businesses in order for him to commit the fraud. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
Not only just to commit fraud but also to deal with the money | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and the benefit from his criminality. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
These associates would have been enlisted to help Scragg find | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
ways of storing and accessing his money undetected. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Thomas Scragg needed to obtain cash from his bank | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
account which is in the reverse of trying to layer it. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
The money then was followed not only through the Moya companies | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
but over to a money service bureau whereby he'd laundered | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
and obtained cash to the tune of something like £4.6 million. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
The whole process, who was involved in the laundering process | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
are as guilty as Scragg, because without professional enablers | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
then Thomas Scragg wouldn't be able to either obtain or utilise or | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
extract the cash and his money in the way that he did. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
Later, the police have their work cut out proving Scragg's crimes in court. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
Scragg all the way through played the part of an innocent, successful businessman. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
Now it's time to switch the focus from people who are willing to | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
steal from all of us to someone who would love to help us all but can't. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Many of us can only dream of doing a job that is satisfying, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
rewarding and ultimately makes us happy. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
So imagine if you are in a career you love only to have | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
everything you've worked for cruelly taken away | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
and your whole life turned upside down in the space of just one day. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
6.30 the sight is OK. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
At least I was able to make out a bit of things, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
but by 8.30, completely blind. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Dr Devaki has been practising as an obstetrician | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
and gynaecologist for over 20 years delivering babies in many | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
different hospitals throughout her career. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-Was it always your dream to be a doctor? -Yes, it was. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
And once you got into practising medicine what was | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
the attraction for you? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
The most interesting feature is to deliver a baby, which is really | 0:11:04 | 0:11:11 | |
challenging at times. It's so nice to bring out a new life to the Earth. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
You just feel very happy. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
-How many babies would you say you've had a hand in delivering? -Countless. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
-If I'm on night on call easily 10 or 12. -10 or 12 a night? -Easily, yes. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
-So you might have helped deliver tens of thousands of babies? -Yes. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
Really? That many? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
What was it like when you first held someone's child in your hands? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
It's so nice. The babies... We all like babies, don't we? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:48 | |
But the thing is after that first delivery when I got it, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
it feels really good. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
You are able to really do... Well, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
the lady also pushed, she did her part, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
but you also feel like you are helping her to get out the baby. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
Without your help definitely things are going to be difficult. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
And you've done that tens of thousands of times for different people? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
Yes, I have. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Tell me what the situation was when everything changed for you. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
That morning I woke up normal. I did my Caesarean section theatre. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
After that I have to go to the clinic in the afternoon. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
1.30 I'm in the clinic and I discover that I'm not able to read the files. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:38 | |
The file looks blurred to me | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
so that's the time I discovered there is something wrong with my sight. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
When you're saying blurred, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-was it so blurred that you couldn't read it at all? -Yes. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Even if I take it closer to me it wasn't really getting there. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
So I had to ask my specialist nurse to read the files for me. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-That's really scary. -It is. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
When her sight didn't improve a few hours later Devaki knew that something was seriously wrong. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
That evening I went to see the physician. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
He just had a look and he said, "Your eyes are so inflamed, you are a | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
"grade 4 papilloedema." Then he told me, "Whatever it is, you just have to come in." | 0:13:17 | 0:13:23 | |
At six o'clock I am in the A & E. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
The sight is gradually going down. At 6.30 even a little bit of it is there. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:31 | |
8 or 8.30, by the time I am going to be moved into the ward, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
by the time they arranged a bed, completely I'm blind. It's really... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Devaki was diagnosed with optic atrophy, a condition that left her | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
with initially swollen and then damaged optic nerves | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
and crucially an almost complete loss of sight. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
I'm going to ask you possibly a difficult question now. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Obviously you've spent your life training, with your medical training, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
to get to a very high level where you are able to help | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
thousands of people have babies and that's been taken away from you. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
-I'm not quite sure... -It was a nightmare really, yes. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
-I don't know how I'd cope with that. -It's so difficult. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
There have been days where I am depressed | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
because on my own I just feel for what I... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
what to say, lack in my life, which was really, really painful. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:38 | |
I had to take my time in understanding my limitation, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:47 | |
and to forget about what I cannot do | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
and I want to find out my skills where I could just continue to | 0:14:53 | 0:15:00 | |
practise health care but in a different form maybe | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
because obviously without sight you cannot be delivering a baby. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
That is very dangerous. So even to accept that fact it took me long. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:14 | |
Devaki had been living off savings that were now running low. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
With no realistic chance of returning to the career she had loved | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and struggling to cope alone in London she was truly lost. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
You're here, you've given so much of your life to helping people | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
and now it feels like you need a little bit of help just to | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
get yourself so you are not stuck in your home the whole time, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
so you can go out. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Yes, I want to overcome the barriers, but it wasn't easy. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
It was so difficult. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Without anyone to care for her | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
and with no assistance of any kind Devaki contacted | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Action For Blind People, who have been helping blind | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
and partially sighted people for over 150 years. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
Independent Living Coordinator Rob Mackenzie recognised | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
straightaway that Devaki needed help. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
'I've been working with Miss Devaki now for the last six, seven months.' | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
I think disorientated is maybe a good word to use. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
She was living outside of London, wasn't too sure what services, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
help and support may be available to her. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Devaki had also struggled on her own for two years, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
not claiming a penny in benefit, and was in danger of losing her home. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
'By the point that she was in touch with us' | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
and us working alongside her a little while had elapsed | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
and she was digging into savings so I think it was only just in time that we | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
were able to support her in applying for the benefits that she needed. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Devaki was rehoused in a suitable property and now receives | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
Employment Support Allowance, Housing Benefit and Personal Independence Payments. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
Once he'd helped her make ends meet Rob was able to start helping | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Devaki in other ways. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
'Working with any disability is challenging, but in this day | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
'and age there are means and applications and ways to get by working with a disability. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:15 | |
'Technology is a great help these days and it's improving every year.' | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
The charity runs a job club where Devaki has access to | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
state-of-the-art assistive computer technology which may | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
hopefully get her back on the road to employment. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
I was so keen on improving my skills to suit my life as a disabled, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
so I just was looking forward to that. I started from scratch. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
It took 12 weeks for me to even get the keyboard right | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
because I had to start touch typing. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
'They helped me to do the CV, some of the applications and stuff like that | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
'and computer skills also.' | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Kate, who runs the job club, has been | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
working regularly with Devaki. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I think Dr Devaki is still adapting to the | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
changes that she is experiencing. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
She was a doctor before and working in a full-time job with other | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
people, working as part of the team. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
That has been taken away from her so it is adapting to changes | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
and gaining her confidence back. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Devaki now has access to courses and training that previously | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
she didn't know existed. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
If I had not got in touch with them for the access technology | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
I would have been lost. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
I don't know then whether I would have had any help, or not at all. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
I'm not sure what would have happened really. I can't think of it. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It's one example of how Devaki is slowly piecing her life back together. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
Devaki is overall quite a bubbly, outgoing person | 0:18:50 | 0:18:57 | |
but she did have worry and stress not knowing where, what and how. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
'Thankfully with our input she got some direction | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
'and she's just bubbly all over again.' | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
We will be here for Mrs Devaki as long as she does need our help, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
support or advice. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Happy to help wherever possible. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
It's support that everyone hopes will one day result in Devaki | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
getting the job she deserves. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
You've got such a huge wealth of experience and knowledge | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
and that hasn't changed. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
-Taking your sight away doesn't take that away, does it? -Yes. That's true. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
There's got to be a way to use that. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
You can't just take unsafe practice because I'm still blind | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
and I don't want to really put someone's life into risk | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
because of my desire to get back into practice. That's the thing. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
So I have to think of various options. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
I have got two options in my head which is going to be learning | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
management and maybe go for a management job in the field | 0:20:01 | 0:20:07 | |
of Obs and Gynae. I think I would make it successful, you know. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
-Devaki, I do wish you all the best. -Thank you very much. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
Whatever happens next it's clear you've given | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
so much of yourself over the years to help people and it would | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
only be right that people can give you a bit of a leg up now as well. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Yes. Thank you very much. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
There's undoubtedly one thing that Devaki dreams of doing above all others. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
I would like to get back to those days. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
I want to have a feel of delivering a baby and having the newborn, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:45 | |
the feel of that in my hands really. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Benefits are a hot topic. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Some people think we are too soft as a country | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and give hand-outs to people who don't need them. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Others recognise the fact that people quite rightly deserve | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
a bit of help from time to time. One thing is certain. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
There are a tiny number of people who shamelessly lie | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and cheat to steal money they don't deserve from the rest of us. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
Luckily there are organisations and people dedicated to catching these | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
scammers and they'll do everything in their power to get them. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
The amount of money at the end of the day is irrelevant to us. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
We have a job to do and we will do it to the best of our ability. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Neil Osliffe is Hyndburn Council's Fraud Manager | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
and looks into all allegations of fraud in the area. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I first became involved in the Dawn Wood case in October 2009. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
We got a telephone call through our fraud hotline. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
'An anonymous referral alleging that Dawn Wood was living with a partner.' | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
A check of the council systems showed that Dawn was claiming | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Income and Housing Benefits but there was something else. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
We were aware of Miss Wood because we'd had a report about her | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
going back to 2004 | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
when she originally claimed with us. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
'She made that claim on the basis that she was a single lady with two | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
'small children and was pregnant at the time | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
'with a third child on the way.' | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
A tenancy agreement had been submitted by her to the | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Benefits Office, but on that tenancy agreement was a gentleman's | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
name that had been scored out, which was most peculiar. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
The Benefits Office did what they were supposed to do | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
and they contacted Miss Wood and asked her about this person. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
'Miss Wood wrote back in to the office saying she'd never heard | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
'of this person and presumed it must have been a previous tenant.' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
On that basis the claim went ahead into payment. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
The name on the tenancy agreement matched the name that had been | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
given by the anonymous caller as the partner with whom Dawn lived. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
It was definitely more than a little bit suspicious. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It was at that point that the case was allocated to | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
one of my officers to take it up on a full-time basis | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
and really see what we could find out. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
The anonymous tip-off also passed on to the investigating officer | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
the description of a vehicle that was regularly at the address. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
The officer wishes to remain anonymous. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
I took a trip out to the address | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
and spotted that the car was parked outside the property. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
So I took details of the registration of the car | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
and we do have access to get in touch with the police to do checks | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
on registrations for us in regards to an investigation. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Police checks confirmed the car was registered to the man they | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
believed to be at the property. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
With this evidence it was time to look into | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
whether the benefits that Dawn was claiming matched her situation. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Obviously we needed to establish if he was working | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and they had more income into the property | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
then there was a chance that they wouldn't be entitled to benefits. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
Even though he wasn't under suspicion it was the information | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
that the team had on Dawn's partner that would strengthen the case. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
But they were still a long way from being able to prove it. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
In my experience, dealing with a living together case, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
they are probably the hardest fraud that the investigating officer | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
has to deal with and has to investigate. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
And that's quite simply | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
because we're trying to put somebody in somebody else's | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
property 24 hours for seven days a week, 365 days a year in some cases. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:11 | |
Or in this specific case, going back historically over five years. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
It makes the job exceptionally difficult | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
and we are looking for paper trails. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
They started hunting. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
I conducted some credit checks on the couple at the address. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
These results came back to us | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and they showed there was no joint credit files for the couple, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
but there was quite a lot in his name including a live bank | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
account as well. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
We knew where he was working. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
We'd been in touch with his employers. Dawn Wood was classed | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
next of kin, the address they held for him was the same as Dawn Wood. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
So all the other bits of evidence plus this, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
it was all linking together now. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
With the case looking strong on paper the team was granted | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
permission to observe the property under | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
the Regulation Of Investigatory Powers Act. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Surveillance was conducted on about 20 occasions on the property, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
20 separate days, and on 16 of those occasions a male | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
matching the description | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
'was seen leaving the property.' | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Neil's decision | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
to put the house under surveillance paid off. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
'We interviewed Dawn Wood under caution. I showed her all the evidence. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
'She was questioned whether he'd been living with her all this time.' | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
She said no, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
that he was somebody that she'd had a one-night stand with back in 2003. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
He didn't move in with her when she first put a claim for benefit. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
The fact that she'd mentioned him on the tenancy agreement, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
she was asked about that, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
'and why she'd put that she wasn't sure who he was,' | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and that he was a previous tenant. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
She admitted that she lied about that. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
One of the pieces of evidence the team had gathered | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
was from someone with irrefutable ties to the house and the couple. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
We had witness statements from the actual landlady of the property | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
who clearly said in her statement that as far as she was | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
concerned that they were a couple and that they even went | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
round on Friday to collect the rent money and that he was paying the rent. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
The team also knew that Dawn's suspected partner's name | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
was on the accounts for various bills at the address, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
so they questioned her about both. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
It seemed that Dawn was sticking to her story. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Dawn's explanation was that the man wasn't living with her, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
but he did stay over | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
two to three times a week. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
She told the officers that he really lived at either his dad's or his | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
sister's and that he only left this car at Dawn's when he'd had a drink. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
She basically told us, and it's what a lot of claimants | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
use, they said it was a care-of address and he just got his mail sent there. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
But we weren't happy with that. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
The first interview was suspended | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
so that the team could investigate Dawn's claims. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
When they did Dawn was back for another chance to explain herself. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
On the second occasion we put it to her that we'd checked the addresses that she'd provided and we | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
could find no trace of this resident at either of these addresses. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
'She still refused to admit that he was living with her | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
'and had done at any time. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
'And it was at that point that we put the allegation of failing | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
to notify changes in circumstances | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
and making false statements to obtain benefit to her. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
And that was the end of the interview. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
The team then submitted all the evidence to the | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Department For Work And Pensions to make a decision on how much | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
benefit Dawn had falsely claimed. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
When the figure came back the scale of Dawn's crime was revealed. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
'She fraudulently claimed just over £93,000 in state benefits.' | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
That's the highest case I've dealt with in my time at Hyndburn Borough Council. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
It's the largest fraud I've had the pleasure of dealing with. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
Because of the severity of Dawn's case it was referred to | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
Burnley Crown Court. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
She was charged with three counts of section 111A | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
of the Social Security Administration Act of 1992, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
which is dishonestly failing to notify changes in circumstances to gain benefit. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
'After a lot of toing and froing she pleaded guilty to all three counts, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
'the Housing Benefit, Income Support and Council Tax Benefit charges on all three.' | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
She was sentenced to six months' imprisonment and she was taken down. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
Because of her actions Dawn received little sympathy. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
'It was a great result for the council. It made the local papers.' | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
The size of the overpayment, everybody here at the council | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
was very happy when sentence was passed on her, to be honest. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
But Dawn wasn't going to get away with a prison | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
sentence by itself. There's the small matter of £93,000. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
The money has to be repaid back | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
and will be repaid back over a period of time. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
It will take an awful long time to pay £93,000 back to the state, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
but recovery procedures are in process as we speak. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
While there is a tiny minority who fund an extravagant | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
lifestyle by claiming money they're not entitled to from the state, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
there are others who work hard to live life in spite of the difficulties they face. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
14-year-old Daniel Southall wants to do the same | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
things as any other teenager, but he's limited by his mobility. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
I go to town with my friends, I go to the cinema sometimes. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
I have friends around quite often as well. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
But Daniel was born with a condition that's affected him | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
more and more as he's grown up. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
It's something his mother, Penny, has struggled with. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
Dan's got Duchenne muscular dystrophy which is a degenerative | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
condition in which the muscles gradually lose power. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
When boys, and the very few girls with Duchenne, are born | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
they appear to be completely normal | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
'and usually by the time they're in their mid-teens they're using a wheelchair all the time.' | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
And then the hands and arms will also slowly get weaker. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
They used to live until their late teens or early 20s, but now | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
quite a few of them are making it into their 30s or even beyond, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
so it's actually quite difficult to know what the future holds. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
We just have to live from day to day. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Every minute the family can spend together is precious. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
As Daniel's mobility has degenerated, spending time with his | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
two younger brothers Tom and Jack has become a bit of a challenge. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
It was sort of taking the edge really off some of the things | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
we used to do together and it would mean there were some things | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
we couldn't do at all which really wasn't very nice for him. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Daniel receives benefits that enable the family to deal with | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
everyday costs. But what he really needed was specialised equipment. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
This was something the NHS couldn't provide. The family needed help. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
I actually first heard about Caudwell Children in 2007. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:14 | |
They fund both equipment grants and holidays for kids with | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
disabilities, particularly life-limited children like Dan. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
Penny had heard about a wheelchair that would greatly improve | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Daniel's quality of life by allowing him to stand upright. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Penny began fundraising and wrote to the charity to ask for some | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
help to raise the £18,000 they needed. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
I was absolutely over the moon | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
when I got a letter to say that they would fund 80% of the chair. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
I just screamed. I felt as though I'd won a competition. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
With this help and donations from relatives, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
friends and other charities the family was able to finally | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
afford the chair they hoped would bring them all together. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
So the difference it's made to us as a family has been huge. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
It's just like any other family being out together. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
Everyone can just do their own thing at their own pace | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
and we can have such a good time together. It is just priceless really. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:16 | |
For Daniel the support of those around him | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
and his new chair means that he can now have the independence he needs. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
'In the future I'm most looking forward to just being able to' | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
do more things from now on, now that I've got this chair. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
'It just helps me get around from day to day. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
'If I didn't have it I'd just be sitting in my bed all day. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
'It just makes everything so much easier on a daily basis.' | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
It's really changed my life a lot. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
But now we'll move away from those in need to people who lie | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
and cheat to bleed money from the state. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
In Birmingham Derek Tinsley of the West Midlands Regional Asset Recovery Team | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
was working on the case of Thomas Scragg. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
He was suspected of stealing an estimated £6 million | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
of taxpayers' money in a complex payroll scam. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
The team had established both how Scragg's fraud worked | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
and how he was laundering his money. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
It was now time to start taking action. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
It became very apparent exactly what the criminality was | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and what was going on. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
We then set about covertly obtaining restraint orders in order to | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
freeze his assets. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
With these measures in place came the moment that | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Superintendent Shaun Edwards had been waiting for. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
We felt we had enough to serve a warrant on his house. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Obviously we don't want to cause distress to the family | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
because people are still innocent till proven guilty, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
'so we do it in a polite manner, but in a firm manner as well. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
'So we made sure we searched the whole house. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
'We would have taken away documents. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
'We took away some of the sporting memorabilia that we found there' | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
as evidence of what he'd been spending his money on, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
taking photographs, videos. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
It is our one chance to gather all that evidence. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Finally with Scragg captive Shaun had the chance to question him. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
Scragg was interviewed under caution as part of the arrest. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
He gave the impression that he was a successful businessman | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
and there was nothing wrong with what he was doing. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
But the police didn't agree. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
After serving warrants on various addresses Scragg | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
and another 12 co-defendants were arrested | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
and charged with conspiracy to cheat Her Majesty's Revenue And Customs. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
For Scragg this came on top of the fraud | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
charges from 2002 to 2007 for which he was awaiting trial. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
And the total figure he was estimated to have stolen was | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
a staggering £38 million. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Once we had all the evidence we felt we were | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
in a really strong position to present that evidence in court. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Quite a complex fraud that he ran but we needed to break it down | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and present it as clearly | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
as possible so that the jury could understand exactly what Scragg had done. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
In November 2010 Scragg was finally brought to trial. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
Thomas Scragg was charged with conspiracy to cheat the HMRC | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
when he came here to Birmingham Crown Court. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
We had a lot of evidence in relation to his scheme. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
We had evidence from workers, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
'the fact that they didn't incur those expenses. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
'We had evidence from his company, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
'the fact that his company had a computer program which was | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
'purely designed to maximise the amount of expenses they claimed,' | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
and to minimise the amount of tax they paid, ie they'd pocket that tax | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
and use it for their own means. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
But there were no guarantees that Scragg would be found guilty | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
and his brazen attitude to stealing taxpayers' money was | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
reflected in court. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
During the trial Scragg very much all the way through played | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
the part of an innocent, successful businessman. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
In fact he actually lauded his role. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
To quote him he said, "David Beckham is Golden Balls, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
"I'm the Golden Balls of Moya." He actually thought that he was a | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
top-notch businessman when actually he's a thief who stole tax money. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
The trial of Thomas Scragg | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
and 12 of his associates from Moya lasted four months and at the | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
end of a very complex process the verdict was finally delivered. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
The jury after their deliberations came back | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
and they found Thomas Scragg | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
and the other directors guilty of cheating | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Her Majesty's Revenue And Customs, the actual charge that they were indicted with. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
After five years spent nailing Scragg it was now down to the judge | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
to decide on his fate. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
The judge during his sentence of Scragg reflected | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
the seriousness of the offence. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
He sentenced him to a totality | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
of 17 years in prison for his scam. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
I think it reflects the seriousness of what Thomas Scragg did, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
stealing money from the public purse. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
We were pleased with the sentence and it did reflect | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
the seriousness of the offending, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
but what we wanted to do was put some of that money back | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
that he'd stolen from the public purse, back to HMRC | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
to be spent on public services like it should be. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
So our investigation didn't finish there. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
And the Asset Recovery Team were determined to make sure | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Scragg paid back what wasn't his. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
As a result of the confiscation process approximately | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
£1 million has been recovered from Thomas Scragg. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
And Derek is not finished yet. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
There is more cash still to be had | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
and the confiscation process is still ongoing and I am confident | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
that there is still more money to be recovered from this crime. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
And in July 2012 it was the notorious Johnson brothers' turn to | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
go up in front of a judge. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
The Johnsons at court were found guilty subsequently of money | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
laundering and they were both sentenced to two years and nine months | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
and again with them, though we were pleased with the sentence, we really wanted | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
to get some of the money that they'd received back into the public purse. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
The Johnsons were ordered to pay back | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
almost £340,000 on top of assets already seized and in total, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
Thomas Scragg and his co-defendants were hit with confiscation orders of more than £30 million. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:59 | |
When the police raided Scragg | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
and the Johnsons' addresses they | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
took away anything of value that could have been bought with stolen cash. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Today at Wilsons Auctions in County Antrim Peter Johnston is | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
overseeing the sale of some of the Johnson brothers' seized property | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
and the proceeds will be used to pay off part of their confiscation orders. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
We actually have three auctions on tonight. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
We have cars downstairs, 200 cars to go through, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
and a property auction on downstairs also. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
But this is the hall we're going to keep the memorabilia. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Some of Scragg's possessions sold here in September 2013, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:41 | |
making over £150,000. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Asset Recovery Manager Aidan Larkin handles all the items that | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
come to the auction house from police seizures | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
and knows Scragg and the Johnsons' property very well. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
In these cases, your sort of stereotypical proceeds of crime | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
cases, it's sports memorabilia. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
So in this case connected to the Scragg and Johnson brothers | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
we have some signed memorabilia from Wayne Rooney and a particularly nice | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
Joe Louis championship belt complete with certificates of authenticity. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
So these things actually adorned the walls of the various people's | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
houses or bars or businesses. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
2,000... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
The brothers had a keen interest in sporting memorabilia | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
and it was one of the things they'd spent bundles of stolen cash on. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
There's so much of it, it means that the private individual can come along | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
and buy one piece, or the collector can buy a complete set of pieces. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
It's the sheer volume of the items in one room at the one time that makes it interesting. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Online at £100, bidding... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
And it's not only sporting memorabilia that is up for grabs. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
So some of the jewellery pieces that are up for auction | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
tonight from the Scragg case. Some diamond-encrusted bracelets, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
some lovely pocket watches, even a Krugerrand coin, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
a solid gold Krugerrand coin, across into some pretty fancy | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
Franck Muller diamond-encrusted watches and your standard Rolexes, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
if you can call them standard. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
So there's been quite a bit of interest in the jewellery lots tonight. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
Every lot that sells tonight will contribute to the | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
hundreds of thousands of pounds that the Johnsons have to | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
pay as a result of their confiscation orders. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
And as the bids come in thick and fast each one is adding funds to the public purse. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
This lot, 156, Pele top, always popular, 100 bid, 120, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:34 | |
120 bid, the Pele signed top, 120, all out, 120 bid, at 140 now, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:40 | |
140 bid, 160 bid, hall bidder | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
at £160, online bid at 180, 180 for the Pele top, 180 bid, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:50 | |
200, at 200, selling at left of me at £200. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
Hall bidder, 20, 220, 220 for Pele, at 220, what do you think, 240 bid, | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
240 bid, bidding left then at £240, only at 240 bid. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
He's out. At 240 in the hall... | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Siobhan is one of the bidders going home happy | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
as she picks up a shirt signed by football legend Pele. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
My husband is an avid football supporter of any team whatsoever, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
'but Pele is one of his favourites. It's for his birthday which is coming up in July here' | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
so it will be a nice present I think. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Pele's signed shirt may well have been one of the Johnsons' | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
favourite possessions, but here it's simply lot 156. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
I'm here at a legitimate auction | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
so whatever is here is here for someone to buy, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
in which case that person just happens to be me, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
so I don't have any inhibitions about it at all. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
I bought what I liked quite simply. They shouldn't have these things in their possession to start with, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
'particularly if they've obtained them in the way that they have,' | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
but on the same token it is great that they are coming back | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
into circulation for people who are legitimate buyers who can be | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
proud of their purchase for the right reasons. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
After 185 lots the Johnsons' jewellery, memorabilia | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
and other items will all be going to new homes. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
It went OK. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
As we thought any of the lots that were endorsed to the | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
actual individuals, to the Scraggs or to the Johnsons, were tough, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
because they were in the pictures. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
But we got bids, we got them sold. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
Any of the items that were just signed by the stars sold well. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Plenty of bids on those. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
And the art et cetera and the jewels et cetera sold particularly well | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
so all in all not a bad night. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
The important bit is getting the money back into the public purse | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
so hopefully the authorities will be pleased with the result. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
In total that figure is £80,000 of which the Johnson brothers | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
will receive exactly, well, nothing. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
And their prized possessions, well, they are gone too. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
The Johnsons' confiscation orders meant that the cars and houses | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
they so proudly bragged about were taken off them along with everything else. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
And the same can be said for arch scrounger Thomas Scragg | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
who's also got years of his sentence still to serve. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 |