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The thing that still keeps me awake at night | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
is the prospect of a marauding firearms terrorist attack. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
It's a constant anxiety of those who are working on counterterrorism. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
A lot of people can be killed in a very short time span, you know, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
using automatic weapons. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
It's an attack that's very hard to counter, obviously, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
unless you can prevent it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
In Afghanistan, in al-Qaeda's camps, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
we were given a course called Harb al-Mudun | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
which in Arabic means urban warfare. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
It is actually nothing short of urban terrorism. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Teaching you how to storm a cinema or a shopping mall and how to | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
horde people into a kill zone. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
The first minute is all about shoot anyone in sight. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
The following minutes is search and destroy. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
Or, in this case, search and kill. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
People who have gone to Syria, returning foreign fighters, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
are the super terrorists. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
They are the terrorists who actually know what they are doing. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
They are the terrorists who have fought, who have been trained, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
who can organise complex attacks. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
That's why they are particularly dangerous. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
We have put a high number of individuals into prison for terrorist offences. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Terrorists in prison can radicalise young, vulnerable criminals | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
to their cause and then incite them, encourage them, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
to go and commit terrorist attacks when they get released. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
There's an opportunity for terrorists to exploit criminals in prison, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
criminal gangs have far more access to firearms than most of our terrorists do. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
If you imagine being a small-time criminal, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
the idea of immediate transformation, the idea of becoming a hero, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:24 | |
is something that can be incredibly empowering. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
He would have embraced this idea that these people, who he is targeting, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:34 | |
are not fellow humans. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
They are animals, they are cattle to be slaughtered. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
You only have the capability to monitor a small number of individuals at any one time. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
You do not have the resources to surveil hundreds, if not thousands, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
of individuals. So, it's all about, you know, the tip of the iceberg. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
The assessment currently, and has been for some time now, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
is that it's highly likely that a terrorist attack will take place in | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
this country. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
DOOR LOCK BUZZES | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
-MAN: -Step through. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
Wait. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
Move it. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
Stop. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Face the wall. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
Face the wall! | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
DOOR LOCK BUZZES | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
Step through. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Upstairs. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
Prisoner on. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
OTHER PRISONERS JEER | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Move it. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
Faster than that. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Stop. Face the wall. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Get in there. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
'B Wing. Association. Unlock.' | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
MURMUR OF VOICES | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Give us that. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Give us a fag. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
You twat, give me that. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Salaam-Alaikum. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
Nurofen. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
Are you Muslim, bruv? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
My door's open. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
Anything you need, yeah? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
MAN GROANS | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
GROANS CONTINUE | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
New boy. Come here. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
I want no trouble, bruv. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
How long you in for? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Four. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
I did two in Cookham, got two months left them I'm out. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Ahmed. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
What's your name, bruv? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:05 | |
-Joseph. -Yusuf. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
You're all right, he ain't going to bother you no more. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
That your boy? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
Yeah, Duane. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
Sweet kid. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
Are you still with his mum? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
I want to be. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
But she's had it with me. I did some stupid things. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I fucked my life up, bruv. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Allah forgives. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
What are you in for? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Selling brown. -You got four for that? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
No. Had a clock on me when I got nicked. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Yeah, as a brother, selling to the kaffir is halal. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
This is our jihad, weakening the kaffir. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Whatever, man. Allah's not going to forgive me. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Past don't justify the future, Yusuf. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
In Islam, the only thing that matters is the last thing you do. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
You could be a good Muslim all your life, but screw it up in the end. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
If you're a coward right before you die, you're going to hellfire. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
What you do before death... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
..that's what you get judged by. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Yeah, do right by Him, at the last minute... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
..and it's Jannah. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
Paradise. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
That's what it says in the Koran. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Come here, bruv. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
Allahu Akbar. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Allahu Akbar. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Allahu Akbar. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
PRAYER CONTINUES | 0:10:38 | 0:10:45 | |
Come meet Omar. I told him about your cousin, he knows you're cool. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
He's there. Yeah. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
-There he is. Assalaamu Alaikum. -Wa alaykumu as-salam. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Want to jump in the wheel? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
Yeah, man. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
How come I ain't seen you before, akhi? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
I've been up in Luton with family. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-What's that like? -Pretty shit, to be honest. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
What do you want? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
I got robbed by some black boys. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Need to go get what I'm owed. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-Which crew they with? -They ain't with a crew. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
So why you telling me this? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
Rahim says you know someone with a piece. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
He's going round saying it? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
It's cool, bruv, I'll ask someone else, yeah? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Hey, get back in, fam. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
-How'd you know Rahim? -He knows people my cousin knew. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Your cuz went? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-Yeah. -When? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
-Year ago. -How's he doing? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
I don't know. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Two of my akhis out there now. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Yeah? Seriously, who? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Known them since I was a kid. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Like brothers to me. Look. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Oh, man. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:11 | |
Masha Allah. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
I want to go so bad, you know? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
They reckon you can't get in, though. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
War is here as well, bruv. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
State of war. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
You hear me? I hear you, fam. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Hey, man's got to go. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
See what I can do, though. Inshallah. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Hey, give me your number, bruv. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Nah, fam. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
I'll text Rahim. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
Safe, yeah? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
DOOR LOCK BEEPS | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
Yeah. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
Sit down. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
Come on, then. The suspense is killing me. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
I met Omar Nawaz Khan last night. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
The one in Newham. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
He told me he's got access to tools. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Right, long or short? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
Mag-10s, that's what I've heard. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
But you haven't actually clapped eyes on it? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-I'm trying. -Who does he hang around with? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Any known extremists? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Nah, he's a dealer, but apparently he knows people out in Syria. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
-Who? -Don't know. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Well, they all say they know someone out in Syria. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Has he got any Al-Muhajiroun connections, or the like? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
No, but, look, he loves all that Daesh stuff. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Sounds like we should just bump it down to Trident. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Let them do him on a gun buy or a drugs buy. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
I think we should keep it, guv. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
Do you know how many jobs I'm running? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
We had the tasking meeting here this morning and I'm struggling to keep | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
the two surveillance teams that I've got on a big job. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-Look, give me another week on him, don't need surveillance yet. -Yeah, but then next week you will. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Come on, then. Put him on the system. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-You got a codename for him? -I'm already on it, boss. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-And what is it? -Computer Mix. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-What? -It's the name, it's what it gave me. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
Fucking hell. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
There is no God but Allah. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Mohammed is the messenger of God. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC LANGUAGE | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Yusuf REPEATS | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
No other gods. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC LANGUAGE Yusuf REPEATS | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
That's it. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
Welcome, brother. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
How do you feel? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Yeah. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
-Yeah, good. -Yeah, man. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-Good. -When you're living with no cause, you know, you get up, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
you go out, you try and make as much paper as you can, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
sleep with as many girls as you can, all of that. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
But now you've got a cause, bruv, like me. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-Thank you, man. -Don't thank me. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Thank Allah. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
-How? -With your deeds. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Yusuf. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:16 | |
You still know people with tools? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Yeah, I can get them. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
When I get out, yeah? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Maybe we can stand before Allah, together. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Inshallah. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
'The Koran teaches us that forgiveness for an ill deed is much' | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
more honourable than revenge. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
To be a true Muslim only non-violent action is acceptable. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
Those who go out to fight in Syria are mistaken. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
You sit there dissing our brothers who are doing His will? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
-You're a sell-out. -Please. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
No talking during khutbah. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Ah, I'm going to give the khutbah. You can go, mate. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I am your imam. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
Not ours. You stand with the kaffir. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
I'm reporting you to the governor. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Yeah? Well, you tell him that akhis don't want his house Muslim corner-shop boy here. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
Go on. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC LANGUAGE | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Allah loves us. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
That's why he chose us, yeah? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
But the second we stop carrying the banner of Islam, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
we go from the best | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
to the lowest of the low. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
The prophets said, "Fight the kaffir until there is no more fitna." | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
Fight the kaffir until there is no more fitna. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
That's it. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
That's why I went to fight. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
That's what we all got to do, brothers. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Khan. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
I'm not done praying. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
-That's my right. -Come on. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Don't fucking touch me. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
One phone call. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Wallahi. That's all it takes for the brothers to pay you a home visit. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Now fuck off. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
Right. Prisons team. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
-What we on? -Ahmed Kaled Khan in HMP Frankland. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Up for release week after next. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
So far has refused all Prevent interventions. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
So he's coming out on licence? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
No, he's served his time in full. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
He's not a TACT offender. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
We had strong intel he was in Syria, but we couldn't prove it. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-So what's he in for? -Harassment. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
CPS were lawfully audacious. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
-Has he been pitched? -Yeah, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
he was pitched by our lot right after his scheduled seven when he got back from Syria. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Sorry, his "holiday in Turkey". | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
-Told us to eff off. -And what we got? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
No sign his views have changed. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
He didn't see eye to eye with the imams, surprise, surprise. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
There was concern he was radicalising other inmates. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
All right. I think we should have another crack at him. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
Have a seat, Ahmed. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
And you are? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
I work in counterterrorism. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
From what I've heard, Ahmed, you've got a lot of influence in here... | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
..and you will have when you get out. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
You're respected by a lot of foreign fighters who've come back. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
I think you could help us with some information. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Like what? | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
Well, there are incentives, of course. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
The more significant the information, the greater they are. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
You put me in here for two years for harassment! | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
And now you want me to work for you? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
See, personally, I don't like control orders, or TPIMs, I should say. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Very tough. A judge might say - no mobile phone, no online access, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
no visitors, can only leave your house at certain times. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Talk about restricted liberty, you've got more bloody freedom in here. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
But our Home Secretary... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
..she's all for them. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Especially in a case like yours. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Leave me alone for a few days when I get out. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
And I'll give it some thought, yeah? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
Guard! | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
Be careful when you get out, yeah? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Feds are going to be watching you. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Feds don't scare me. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
I need to know you're with me. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
Yeah, course I am. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
I need to know you won't turn your back on me, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
on our cause, on Allah. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
You know I won't. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
I get out a week after you. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
That's fate, Yusuf. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
That's a sign. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Are you ready? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
I want to prove myself to Him. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Good. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
Cos I've talked to Majid about you. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
-Our brother in Raqqa. -Yeah? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Yusuf, even that emir knows your name. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
I want to go. Why can't we go? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Because he's chosen an even greater honour for you and me. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
If they fight you, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
then kill them. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
Such is the recompense of the disbeliever. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
We don't need to go to Syria to do that. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
We can meet Allah right here. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
Inshallah. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
MUFFLED MUSIC PLAYING | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION AND LAUGHTER | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
Hey, Kay. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Let me call you later, yeah? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
You can't stay here, Jo. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
-Please. -No. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
This is the address I gave for my licence. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
What did you do that for? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
Cos I want to see him, Kay. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
One week. That's it, and then you've got to go somewhere else. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
-And what's with the beard? -I've converted. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
-Fuck off. -No, seriously. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
-I'm Muslim now. -You what? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Starting over, Kay. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
It's a new me. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
Look at you. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
What's wrong, you don't recognise your dad? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Come, give me a hug. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Come on. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Come on. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
I need a tech, bruv. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
TEXT ALERT | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
INDISTINCT PRAYER | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
INDISTINCT CONVERSATION | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-Salaam-Alaikum. -You all right? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
-You seen Omar? -No, gone to town, innit. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
He didn't help you with that thing, no? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Nah. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Tell him I'm looking for him, yeah? | 0:26:11 | 0:26:12 | |
Safe. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
SHIP'S HORN SOUNDS | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
SEAGULLS CRY | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
-It worked, then. -Yeah. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
When I sent it, I was worried you didn't look enough like me. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
We all look the same to them, bruv. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
ENGINE STARTS | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
Hey, what happened with Computer Mix? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
-No show. -Right, well, that's that, then. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Get someone from Trident to wrap him up cos I need you over on Mike's job | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
-in Barking, OK? -OK. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
TEXT ALERT | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
Yeah, it's Mo. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Listen, Computer Mix just texted me. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Yeah, I'm going to forward you his number. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
Can we run some movement analysis on him? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
INDISTINCT SOUNDTRACK ON VIDEO | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
TEXT ALERT | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
Hey, little man. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
-How was school? -It was OK. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
-Good, good. -I'm leaving him with you tonight, yeah? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
TEXT ALERT | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
Give him some fish fingers, they're in the freezer, and some oven chips, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
-but he doesn't like them too well done. -Yeah. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
-Where you off to? -Out. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
See you later, yeah? | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
-What you watching? -Nothing, don't worry about it. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
TEXT ALERT Right, you know what to do. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
Assalaamu Alaikum. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
I live at number 58. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
I'm really sorry to ask, but do you mind minding my boy for just one hour? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
I've got an emergency. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Yeah? Thank you, thank you so much. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
-Be good, OK? -Bye. -Bye. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
DOOR BUZZER | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
Malek. You and Abdul will start on the upper level. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
When you start shooting, go in opposite directions. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
You, clockwise. Abdul, anticlockwise. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
So you're driving the kaffir into each other and down. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
That way you get a maximum kill ratio. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Me and Yusuf will be on the ground floor doing the same. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
If you're shooting a pistol, don't bother trying to slaughter kaffir, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
unless they're up close. Don't matter how good a shot you think you are. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-You shot a gun before? -Yeah. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Then when they're all running away, start mopping up. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
-What does that mean? -Finish off the wounded. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
If you're low on ammo, use a blade, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
but save a clip for when the feds turn up. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-How long are we going to have? -Three or four minutes, bruv, at least, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
maybe more. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Inshallah. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
-What's that? -Don't use it. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
Don't turn it on till the day, all right? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Majid, our brother in Raqqa, is going to be messaging us, coordinating. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
You know what's in your heart? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Good. Remember your love for the Messenger. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
For Allah, yeah? | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
Why all the long faces? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
We got the movement analysis back from Computer Mix. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
He went to Harwich and back on Friday night. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
-What's in Harwich? -He was there at 10pm, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
a P&O from the Hook Of Holland got in when he was there. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
I've pulled a passenger list and we're waiting on CCTV from the terminal. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
OK. So, what you thinking? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
-Could be a returning we don't know about. -Yeah, wouldn't be the first. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
But there's more intel that's just come in from our liaison guy in Brussels. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
-On the intel side? -No, it's the Belgian police. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
There was a firearms seizure last week by their serious crime unit, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
four AKs, and one of the guys in custody had bought a ferry ticket to Dover. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Is there a link to anyone here? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
GCHQ seems to think so, yeah. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
So we're putting your man, Computer Mix, on a P1, start a full op on him, 24/7 surveillance. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
Known associates, financial, social media, the lot. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
KNOCKS ON DOOR | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Kay. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
What's going on? | 0:33:05 | 0:33:06 | |
Do you know what I had to do today? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
I had to go and see Duane's teachers. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
Cos he's been telling his mates about some videos you've been watching. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Isis videos. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
It's sick. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:24 | |
It's fucking sick. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
It's... It's not like that, yeah? | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
So what's it like? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
-Just let me inside and I'll explain everything to you. -No, no chance. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
-You said one week. -I changed my mind. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
Anyway... I met someone else a year ago. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Don't act all surprised. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
He's been a better dad to Duane than you ever was. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
If you come back here again, without my say-so, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
I'm going to call the police, yeah? | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
Kay, please... | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
Please. Just let me back in. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Kay, Kay! | 0:34:05 | 0:34:06 | |
She looked at me like I was dirty! | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Like she hates me! | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
-Fucking bitch! -The kaffir hate us, bruv. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
That's the truth. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Look at Trump and his Muslim ban, all of that. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Some of them, they pretend, yeah, but that's how they really feel. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
She wouldn't even let me explain. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
You know why they hate us? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Because we got the light. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
The prophet said, "He for whom Allah has not appointed light, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
"there is no light." | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
Their world's so dark they can't even see their own hand in front of them. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
What am I going to do about Duane? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
He'll be with you, bruv, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
by your side, shining in your heart, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
in Jannah. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
Joseph Mwembe. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
Yusuf. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Salaam-Alaikum. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
I've been asked to have a chat about what happened with Duane, at school. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:53 | |
That's bullshit, bruv. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:54 | |
-OK, forget about that. -I know what this is all about. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Yeah, you're going to tell me how Islam's all about love and peace, yeah? | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
I'm going to tell you that I believe in jihad... | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
If the cause is just. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
See, that's what I'm talking... | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
Do you know what the kaffir are doing right now in Syria? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Bombing kids. You're telling me fighting to save them ain't a just cause? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
That don't mean that you have to go to Syria. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Who told you I want to go to Syria? | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
There are kids right here, in Hackney, that you can save. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
-That's jihad. -That's not jihad. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
Look, you'll be doing the work of Allah right there. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
I'm not going Syria or nothing like that. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
All I want to do is see my boy. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
-Is that OK? -OK. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
So let me help you. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
-Yusuf? -What? | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Let's fight together on this. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
Yeah? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
Right, so Computer Mix goes to Harwich Friday night, picks up his cousin, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
-Tariq Hussein Khan. -So he must be a returnee? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Computer Mix said he knew people in Syria. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Well, cousin Tariq used his debit card in Asda in Stepney Green on | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Tuesday. So unless it was a city break to the caliphate, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
-then I don't think so. -Has he used his card since? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:35 | |
Yeah, he bought a kiddies trampoline in Argos, yesterday. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
Mo, you need to get in there, talk to Computer Mix again. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
We should just arrest the cousin. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
Yeah, but charge him with what? Having a drug dealer in the family? | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
There's nothing on his social media, either. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
These are the guys we suspect of having travelled to Syria from Computer Mix's area. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
All three of them were recruited by Ali Abdul Salah, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
the guy from Birmingham. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Well, we can track Abdul Salah's messaging patterns now. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
No, he was droned back in November, so good luck with that. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
I don't think this is Tariq at all. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
I think someone else came in on his passport. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
What happened? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
-I said 2.30. -Sorry, bruv, had a nightmare with the car. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
What you got on you? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:36 | |
-You carrying? -No, bruv. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
-Nothing feds could do you for? -No. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Bit of cash, that's all. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
All right, take the next left. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
-It don't go nowhere, it's a dead end. -I know. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Take it. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
Computer Mix's passenger is IC4 male, mid 20s. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Get in. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
Just go in the garage? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Yeah, this morning, stalled. It was dead. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Cable for the battery was fucked. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
What the fuck? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
Phone. Give me the phone! | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
What the fuck, fam! | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
You working for them? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
Huh? You know what happens to people that do that? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
Did you speak to anybody about me or Ahmed after the garage? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
No, I swear! | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
HE PANTS | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
If you love Allah, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
don't come near us. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
No calls, messages, nothing. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
-You get me? -Yeah. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
Come on. Three! | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
Nice, come on, one, two. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
Come on. Harder, harder! Come on, come on, come on! | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-All right, all right. -One, two. Yes! | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
I am the kaffir! | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
I am the kaffir! | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Come on. I am the kaffir! | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
PUNCHES MERGE WITH GUNSHOTS | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
What's this? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Pick up those tools we talked about, yeah? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
We're going to need them. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
Can I use the bathroom, please? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
-Is Kaymar in? -He's out the back. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
-I heard you converted. -Who told you that? | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Someone going out with Kayla, innit. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
So what, then? | 0:43:15 | 0:43:16 | |
No, blud, that was inside. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Meals are good, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
get allowed to box five times a day, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
the akhis look after you. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:26 | |
I don't want no comebacks, you know. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
You see one of them Paki boys from Newham? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Man was asking me for a thing for weeks, fam. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
-Yeah. -I didn't give him nothing, you get me? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
See, my man and his crew, they're pure nutters, fam. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Straight Jihadi Johns, you get me? | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
If it's a business thing, yo, that's cool. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
But anything else, no, blud, that shit's fucked up. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
How much lead you want? | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
What you got? | 0:44:01 | 0:44:02 | |
Bruv, is this a hit or what? | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
Bruv, he's tooled up. I just don't want to run out of caps, that's all. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Anything you don't use, fam, make sure you bring it back, yeah? | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
Armed police, armed police! | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO CHATTER | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
Right, what we got from his phones? | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
I don't reckon we've got his main phone, boss, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
-but there's a few numbers in the system on one of the burners we found. -Go on, then. -It's saved as K. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
It comes up in Trident. Kaymar Williams, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
it's in the system as Green Window. | 0:45:58 | 0:45:59 | |
-Should I have heard of him? -He's an armourer. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
He sold to the Woolwich boys and the Tooting lads a few months back. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
Mike, Jon Idham, from 15. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:08 | |
Yeah, I need your boys to go and see a Kaymar Williams. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
Green Window. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
Yeah, go do a gun buy on him, urgent. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
Yeah. Yeah, extremely fucking critical. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
OK. Yeah, thanks, mate. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
Cheers, bye. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
-Right, what else? -He messaged a phone in County Durham on Thursday. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
Ahmed Kaled Khan. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
Oh, my new mate? We're running a job on him, aren't we? | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
-Electronic only. -Well, let's get eyes on him now. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Jon? Yep, we've got a possible location on Ahmed Kaled Khan. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
BANGING | 0:47:43 | 0:47:44 | |
Armed police! Stay down! | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
Get on the floor! Stay down! Show me your hands! | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
Keep your hands where I can see them, do exactly as I tell you! | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
-Clear! -Clear! | 0:47:55 | 0:47:56 | |
OK. Turn over onto your stomach. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Do it now! | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
Keep your arms behind your back. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
TV ON IN BACKGROUND | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
-TV: -'Four men have been arrested on suspicion of committing offences under the Terrorism Act. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
'Seven properties and a number of vehicles are being | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
'searched. Detectives say it's part of an ongoing investigation. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
'Our home affairs correspondent, June Kelly, is with me. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
'What more do we know about this? | 0:49:17 | 0:49:18 | |
'Well, these were early morning raids, Sophie. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
'They're a mixture of homes and businesses...' | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
Hello? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:38 | |
What's happening? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:40 | |
Yeah, am I still doing it? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
Yeah. OK, OK, mate. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
-Jon? -Yeah? -GCHQ matched messaging patterns of a telegram user in Raqqa | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
with three phones here. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:57 | |
One's been used in and around the Carpenters Estate in Newham. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
-And the others? -County Durham, a week ago. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
-Well, it's Khan. -Most likely, yeah. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
-Any content? -On the prison phone, yeah. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
We got round the end of the encryption. This is a transcript. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
Well, half of this is in Arabic. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
What the fuck is...alb-wa-govea? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
Translation's on the next page. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
-"The Westgate." -Analysts think it might be code for a mall attack. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
Like Westgate in Kenya. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
Dad! | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Duane! | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
Oi. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
I thought I told you to call before you come here? | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
Yeah. I thought you'd be at your mum's. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
What you doing here? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:51 | |
-I'm just really sorry, babe. -Oh, don't. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
Just don't. | 0:50:58 | 0:50:59 | |
Come, Duane, our pizza's getting cold. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
Why can't Dad eat with us? | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Come here. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Duane. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:10 | |
-I love you, Duane. And I will eat with you in Jannah. -Where's Jannah? | 0:51:11 | 0:51:16 | |
Duane! | 0:51:19 | 0:51:20 | |
I won't tell you again. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Go on, you be a good boy for Mum. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
Go. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Duane. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:30 | |
I love you. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
DOOR SHUTS | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:51:46 | 0:51:47 | |
-Salaam-Alaikum. -Salaam-Alaikum. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
TV ON | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
Two weeks ago he just shows up, out of nowhere, and then he pulls this. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
What? Yeah, it's fucking weird is what. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
I don't know, babe. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
-Mum, look! -I'm on the phone, yeah. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
It's from Dad. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
Hold on. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:45 | |
Let me call you back. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
Does that mean we're not going to see him again? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
I want you to go in there, stay there and don't leave, OK? | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
I'll be back in a minute. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
Jo? | 0:54:26 | 0:54:27 | |
Call me back. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:28 | |
The guy who was in with Ahmed Khan, Joseph Mwembe. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
Mohammed's just tailed him onto the underground, eastbound. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
It's MTFA. Got to be. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
'This is Stratford. Please mind the gap.' | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Please, please. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
Don't do this to us. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
Just call me back, please. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
PHONE KEYPAD BEEPS | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
-'Emergency, what service?' -Police. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Yes, police. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
CLICKING | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
GUN COCKS | 0:57:40 | 0:57:41 | |
Terrorism is never, in my view, inevitable. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:53 | |
It can be prevented through highly effective intelligence agencies, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
working with highly proficient, professional police agencies. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
It is not inevitable. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:03 | |
The UK has been remarkably successful at disrupting terrorism. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
12, 13 prevented attacks in the last 18 months. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
There are hundreds of investigations, covert investigations, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
going on at any one time against individuals who are extremists and | 0:58:18 | 0:58:23 | |
potentially terrorists. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
A vital component is to get the support of the majority of the Muslim community, | 0:58:26 | 0:58:31 | |
you know, the 95, 98% of the Muslims in this country who are supportive of the values of | 0:58:31 | 0:58:37 | |
this country, who do not subscribe to Isis ideology or al-Qaeda | 0:58:37 | 0:58:42 | |
ideology, but who really want to see an end to this terrorism. | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 |