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MUSIC: "Back to Black" by Amy Winehouse

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# I go back to black

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# Black

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# Black

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# Black

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# Black

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# Black

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# Black

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# I go back to

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# I go back to

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# We only said goodbye with words

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# I died a hundred times

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# You go back to her

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# And I, I...

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# We only said goodbye with words

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# I died a hundred times

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# You go back to her

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# And I go back...

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# To black. #

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Thank you.

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This programme contains some strong language.

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Five years ago, Amy Winehouse went to Dingle -

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the westernmost town on the coast of County Kerry.

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She had accepted an invitation to appear

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at one of the world's most exclusive music festivals.

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The Dingle Festival, set in a tiny church in the middle of the town,

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provides the raw material for the Irish TV series, Other Voices.

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Everyone who plays there wants to come back.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Amy Winehouse arrived on a wild, stormy night,

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ready to sing, and ready to talk, especially about her musical heroes.

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Arena pays tribute to Other Voices, and together they joined forces

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to present the whole of that performance,

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and allow Amy Winehouse to tell the story of her music in her own words.

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Amy appeared in the fifth series of Other Voices,

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which we film every winter, here in Dingle.

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As the crow flies, Dingle is about the same distance from London

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as, say, Aberdeen.

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But you can't get to Dingle by crow.

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Whether you start your journey by plane, or by train,

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you finish it by automobile, weather permitting.

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You just don't go to Dingle by accident, it takes a commitment.

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A commitment musicians have been making to Other Voices

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for ten years now.

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A commitment Amy made back in 2006.

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The truth is, there's something very, very special about Dingle,

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and there's something quite unique about Other Voices.

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'Other Voices was never planned - it did just happen.

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'Here, there are conditions that are special,

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'and that are very conducive to great music.'

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It's peripheral - people feel safe here.

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Artists sense something here.

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Over the years,

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as we've asked people to come,

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some say no, but many say yes.

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And if you go down through the lists

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of people who have come -

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Irish artists, who begin their careers here,

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great artists from all the world around,

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whether it's The National,

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whether it's Rufus Wainwright, his sister, Martha,

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Ray Davies, Ryan Adams.

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All these people come, and something special happens.

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But something really special happened the day Amy came to Dingle.

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MUSIC: "Another Green World" by Brian Eno

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PARED DOWN INTRO TO "Back To Black"

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It started off bit-by-bit. Not with rock concerts,

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but there was a parishioner here, Steve Coulter -

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he noticed that the church was only being used one day of the week,

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and said, "This is a pity. I can do something for all the tourists

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"visiting Dingle".

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He was looking for a place to have music, that wasn't a pub.

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So he started folk concerts here,

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with the permission of the Select Vestry, the parish council,

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to help him in his work,

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but also to help the parish do a bit of fundraising.

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The parish here would have been very badly hit over the years

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with emigration,

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It would have once been a thriving parish

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Now, it's quite small in numbers,

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so it's difficult for a small congregation

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to keep a building like this up and running.

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From that, somebody had the idea,

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"Maybe if there are folk concerts here, we can have other things".

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So Philip King approached Steve,

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and they approached the Select Vestry

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with the idea of maybe bringing other musicians in,

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for wider variety.

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Look at where we are. We're at the edge of the known world,

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as it was, before we found out it was round.

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We used to think that if you stood at the edge of the Dingle Peninsula

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and looked west, and walked out there, you would fall off.

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We were at the edge of the known world.

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There is something about places that are at the edge.

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Artists sense something when they come here,

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of that I have no doubt,

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and they make an effort to come,

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and there's something in the effort of getting here

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that makes the way that they perform different,

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because the budget isn't big -

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the production doesn't have

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all of the clipboard people running around,

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wondering if everything is all right.

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There is something communal and collegiate about the place,

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and people come here.

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It's real, and they're cherished,

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and they take to the stage,

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and sometimes I think that when people go on stage in the church

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they are a little bit wary of it, or almost put off by it,

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or find it very difficult.

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If you are Snow Patrol and you played to 40,000 people last night,

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and you play to 80 people tonight,

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you're smack up against it.

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You're sitting in the lap of the person in the front row.

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So this is different - it is a different experience.

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It was a bad evening, a terrible evening - very wet, windy and wet,

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actually very windy and wet.

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They gave me a name, but I hadn't a clue from Adam

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who the lady was - not a clue, just got the name.

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I remember going up to the airport, and writing it out

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at the information desk,

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getting the paper thing and writing her name on it,

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and standing there with it.

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I didn't have a clue who Amy Winehouse was.

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I know the flight was late, and I was waiting there for a while,

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and this girl came along, and a man with her,

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and I was looking out for more people,

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and I said to her, "Where's your mother?"

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She said, "My mother's back in London".

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She was laughing, and we were laughing in-between her.

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I thought she was a child of Amy Winehouse's, to tell you the truth.

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My first reaction of seeing her was that she was a child!

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I remember it being a very long day,

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getting here, and then going to the hotel to get ready,

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and then coming to do the performance,

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and then going straight back to the airport.

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-And it was so long, it was a blur.

-HE LAUGHS

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-Can I stick my phone in there?

-Sure - by all means.

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We had a great time - we always did.

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She loved coming to Ireland, actually.

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We'd been a few times...

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..and she always enjoyed herself a lot.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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The label - Chantal - was texting me,

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"Is she there? Is she OK? Who's arrived, who's picked her up?

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"Is everything OK?"

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And I was like, "Everything is wonderful".

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She marched up the stairs in Benners, into her room, and says,

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"Can you give me a hand?" I said, "What?" and she said,

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"Will you hold my hair while I backcomb it?"

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I was like, "OK". I'm holding the back of her hair

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and she's backcombing the front, and I was like,

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"Can I get you something to eat?" She was like, "No, no, no -

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"I'm late. I'm sure you're way behind schedule

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"We've got work to do".

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We are delighted to have here tonight Amy Winehouse.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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# All I can ever be to you is the darkness that we knew

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# And this regret I got accustomed to

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# Once it was so right When we were at our height

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# Waiting for you in the hotel at night

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# I knew I hadn't met my match But every moment we could snatch

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# I don't know why I got so attached

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# It's my responsibility You don't owe nothing to me

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# But to walk away I have no capacity

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# He walks away, the sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I'm grown

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# And in your way

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# In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on their own

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# I don't understand Why do I stress a man

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# When there's so many bigger things ahead?

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# We could have never had it all We had to hit a wall

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# So this is inevitable withdrawal

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# Even if I stop wanting you And perspective pushes through

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# I'll be some next man's other woman soon

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# I cannot play myself again I should just be my own best friend

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# Not fuck myself in the head with stupid men

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# He walks away, the sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I am grown

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# And in your way In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on their own

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# So we are history Your shadow covers me

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# The sky above ablaze

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# He walks away, the sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I am grown

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# And in your way In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on...

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# I wish I could say, "No regrets" No emotional debts

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# Boy, as we kiss goodbye The sun sets

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# So we are history

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# Your shadow covers me

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# The sky above ablaze That only lovers see

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# He walks away The sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I am grown

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# And in your way In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on...

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# He walks away, the sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I am grown

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# And in your way In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on their own

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# He walks away, the sun goes down

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# He takes the day, but I am grown

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# And in your way In this blue shade

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# My tears dry on their own. #

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Thank you.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Amy, you've just done a set which is clearly

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"Amy Winehouse - soul singer".

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We don't get to hear that kind of music in real life often,

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but we do hear it on record.

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Presumably, you heard this kind of music first on record, as well?

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-Yes.

-So who was it?

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When I was younger, I didn't really listen to a lot of soul,

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but in the last year I got very into Motown girl groups,

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and that kind of thing.

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-Just in the last year?

-Yeah - two, maybe... Year-and-a-half.

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It seems like it's in your bones.

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Yeah, I liked Otis Redding when I was younger.

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Well, I've liked Otis Redding from when I was about 14 or 15,

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but I listened to hip-hop and jazz for so many years

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that it took me a while to...

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That's pretty much it...

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Soul comes in the middle -

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it goes jazz, soul, Motown, then hip-hop.

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You know,

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obviously, I've gone in the middle of them two.

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Just recently, I've been listening to a lot of gospel singers

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like Mahalia Jackson and Aretha Franklin.

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I love gospel singers, cos gospel is so truthful.

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There's nothing... I'm not religious,

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but there's nothing more pure than the relationship you have

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with your God or what you believe in, your faith -

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there's nothing stronger than that, apart from your love of music.

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Gospel to me is very inspirational.

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MUSIC: "Didn't It Rain" by Mahalia Jackson

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VINYL CRACKLES

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# My Lord, Oh Lord

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# Mm, my Lord

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# Rained 40 days and 40 nights without stopping

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# Noah was glad when the rain stopped dropping

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# Knock at the window Knock at the door

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# Crying, "Brother Noah Can't you take on more?"

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# No, I can't, no You're full of sin

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# Lord's got the key and you can't get in

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# Just listen, how sweet

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# Just listen, how sweet

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# All day, all night

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# All night, all day

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# Just listen, how it's raining

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# Just listen, how it's raining

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# Some crying, some praying

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# Some running, some shouting

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# Just listen, how it's raining

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# Didn't it rain, children? Rain all night long

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# Didn't it, didn't it, didn't it?

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# Oh, my Lord

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# Didn't it rain?

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# Mmmm... #

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It's our musicians and our artists

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who are the prophets of today,

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because a prophet,

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biblically speaking, isn't a fortune teller.

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A prophet is somebody

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who tells it how it is, who can hopefully see things

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the way God sees things -

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so tell you how things really are, as opposed to the way

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that people might think they are.

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When you have people singing rock'n'roll songs, pop songs,

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or whatever that is, that gives you a window into where society is.

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The musicians don't create that, they just reflect it.

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Sometimes you do get people writing

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really insightful, beautiful pieces that they've brought here...

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and it does feel nearly like, erm...

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..an act of praise or an act of worship

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to have them performed in this space.

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This is the next single - this is out January 15th.

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This is called I'm No Good.

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BASS GUITAR

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# Meet you downstairs in the bar and heard

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# Your rolled-up sleeves and your skull T-shirt

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# You say, "What did you do with him today?"

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# And sniff me out like I was Tanqueray

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# Cos you're my fellow, my guy

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# Hand me your Stella and fly

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# By the time I'm out the door

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# You tear me down like Roger Moore

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# I cheated myself

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# Like I knew I would

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# I told you I was trouble

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# Yeah, you know that I'm no good

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# Upstairs in bed with my ex-boy

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# He's in the place But I can't get joy

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# Thinking of you in the final throes

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# This is where my buzzer blows

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# Run out to meet you

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# Chips in pitta

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# You say, "When we're we married" Cos you're not bitter

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# "There'll be none of him, no more"

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# I cry for you on the kitchen floor

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# I cheated myself

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# Like I knew I would

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# I told you I was trouble

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# Yeah, you know that I'm no good

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# Sweet reunion, Jamaica and Spain

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# We're like how we were again

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# I'm in the tub, and you on the seat

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# Lick your lips as I soak my feet

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# Then you notice little carpet burn

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# My stomach drops, and my guts churn

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# You shrug, and it's the worst

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# Who truly stuck the knife in first?

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# I cheated myself

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# Like I knew I would

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# I told you I was trouble

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# Yeah, you know that I'm no good

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# I cheated myself

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# Like I knew I would

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# I told you I was trouble

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# Yeah, you know that I'm no good. #

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GUITAR SOLO

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Thank you.

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When you're a singer,

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and you haven't heard someone like Mahalia Jackson

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until later in life, that must make you reassess yourself as a singer.

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You just kind of... There are a lot of singers who, if you are singing,

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and you don't know certain people's work intimately, you give up.

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Like Sarah Vaughan, Minnie Riperton is another singer like that.

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Mahalia Jackson, Dinah Washington.

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Kim Burrell is another one.

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To see... For live performances, you have to see Carleen Anderson

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at least three times in your life - you have to.

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She's someone who I would sit around the venue all day

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just to hear her sound check, all day.

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She did a version of Don't Look Back in Anger,

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and I was just crying. Oh!

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# Take me to the place where you go

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# Where nobody knows

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# If it's night or day

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# And please don't put your life in the hands

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# Of a rock'n'roll band

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# And throw it all away

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# So I'll start a revolution from my bed

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# Cos you said the brains I had weren't in my head

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# Step outside, the summertime's in bloom

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# Stand up beside the fireplace

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# And take that look from off your face

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# Cos you ain't ever

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# Gonna burn my heart out

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# All I do is wait

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# I know it's too late

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# As they're walking on by. #

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These are very inspirational people,

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but they're also very hard to emulate,

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because they're so extraordinary, some of these people you talk about.

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I admire both dex...

0:23:130:23:15

What's that word? Dexterity,

0:23:150:23:18

but also the way they stand out.

0:23:180:23:21

You know, you can't...

0:23:210:23:23

They're very...

0:23:240:23:26

Singers like Ella Fitzgerald,

0:23:260:23:28

I always say she was one of the greatest singers of all time.

0:23:280:23:31

She knew how to carry a tune. To me, really, she doesn't stand out.

0:23:310:23:34

She just sounded like a lot of other people. You can hear her, and go,

0:23:340:23:37

"That's Ella Fitzgerald". But it's not like she stood out.

0:23:370:23:39

Would you prefer Sarah Vaughan to Ella Fitzgerald?

0:23:390:23:42

Easily. Sarah Vaughan is one of my favourite singers of all time.

0:23:420:23:45

Sarah Vaughan was an instrument.

0:23:450:23:47

I've heard her on record humming - she does like, a humming solo.

0:23:470:23:51

She sounds like a reed instrument, a clarinet, or something. It's mad.

0:23:510:23:57

# ..is sentimental

0:24:020:24:07

# Not made

0:24:070:24:11

# Not made of wood

0:24:130:24:18

# I got it bad

0:24:180:24:20

# I got it bad

0:24:200:24:22

# I got it bad

0:24:220:24:27

# And that ain't good

0:24:280:24:38

# But when the weekend's over

0:24:390:24:49

# And Monday rolls around

0:24:510:25:00

# I end up like I started

0:25:000:25:08

# Just crying

0:25:100:25:14

# My poor heart out

0:25:140:25:19

# Lord, lord, lord, lord above me

0:25:190:25:26

# Make him love me

0:25:270:25:33

# The way he should

0:25:350:25:43

# I got it bad

0:25:440:25:48

# And that ain't good. #

0:25:490:25:57

When you started to sing, first of all,

0:25:570:25:59

was it singers like Sarah Vaughan you were trying to copy, or be?

0:25:590:26:03

No, I think I came to Sarah Vaughan a lot later, I was about 18.

0:26:030:26:07

But I'd started listening to Ella Fitzgerald,

0:26:070:26:11

then I was, like, my brother had all the good stuff, and my brother was like,

0:26:110:26:15

"Tsk-tsk, Dinah Washington".

0:26:150:26:16

I learnt to sing from Dinah Washington a lot.

0:26:160:26:18

But I learnt to sing from stuff like Monk, and a lot of soloists.

0:26:180:26:23

That's how I learned to sing, rather than just listening to singers.

0:26:230:26:27

Because I loved jazz - it wasn't really the vocal jazz,

0:26:270:26:30

I just loved jazz, so I learnt from everything, really.

0:26:300:26:33

And when you started to perform as a jazz singer,

0:26:330:26:36

what was the set-up?

0:26:360:26:37

Were you part of a band - were you invited to sit in with people?

0:26:370:26:41

I think I did one gig as a jazz singer

0:26:410:26:45

for the National Youth Jazz Orchestra,

0:26:450:26:47

which everyone has come through,

0:26:470:26:50

comes through or goes through at some point.

0:26:500:26:54

That was my first and last gig,

0:26:540:26:56

cos after that, my manager came to that gig and said,

0:26:560:26:58

"I'll give you loads of studio time - just go in and play guitar,

0:26:580:27:01

"and write songs". I was like, "Thanks, why?"

0:27:010:27:03

And he was like, "You're going to make an album,

0:27:030:27:05

"and then I'm going to get you signed and everything".

0:27:050:27:08

And I was like, "Really?"

0:27:080:27:11

It was cool.

0:27:110:27:13

But I did a lot of... I still did,

0:27:130:27:16

up until a couple of months ago,

0:27:160:27:18

I'd do a massive opening for a casino.

0:27:180:27:22

I'd go out with just my piano player, and we'd do jazz all night.

0:27:220:27:26

Or sometimes we'd get these Russian bankers

0:27:260:27:30

that really like me cos I'm Russian Jew.

0:27:300:27:33

They always book me if they're in town and we do jazz for them.

0:27:330:27:36

We don't do my stuff.

0:27:360:27:38

So I still sing jazz, but I do it in a duo context.

0:27:380:27:40

# For you, I was a flame

0:27:470:27:50

# Love is a losing game

0:27:510:27:57

# Five-storey fire as you came

0:27:570:28:03

# Love

0:28:030:28:05

# Is a losing game

0:28:060:28:10

# One I wish I'd never played

0:28:100:28:17

# Oh

0:28:170:28:18

# What a mess we made

0:28:180:28:22

# And now, the final frame

0:28:250:28:28

# Love

0:28:290:28:31

# Is a losing game

0:28:310:28:34

# Played out by the band

0:28:410:28:44

# Love is a losing hand

0:28:460:28:51

# And it was more than I could stand

0:28:530:28:57

# Love is a losing hand

0:28:590:29:05

# Self-professed, profound

0:29:060:29:11

# Till the chips were down

0:29:130:29:18

# Though you're a gambling man

0:29:200:29:23

# Love is a losing hand

0:29:250:29:30

# Though I battle blind

0:29:370:29:41

# Love is a fate resigned

0:29:430:29:49

# And my memories

0:29:490:29:52

# They mark my mind

0:29:520:29:55

# Love is a fate resigned

0:29:560:30:00

# Oh-ho-oh-oh

0:30:000:30:03

# Over futile odds

0:30:030:30:08

# And laughed at by the gods

0:30:090:30:13

# Now the final frame

0:30:170:30:20

# Love

0:30:220:30:23

# Is a losing game. #

0:30:230:30:27

Thank you. APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:30:270:30:31

The whole jazz thing has gone a bit strange,

0:30:330:30:35

because anybody who sings any kind of acoustic folk, even,

0:30:350:30:38

is called a "jazz singer".

0:30:380:30:39

Yet you grew up singing the real stuff.

0:30:390:30:42

-You were into Monk, and all of that.

-Yeah.

0:30:420:30:44

Is there a good jazz scene in England at the moment in London?

0:30:440:30:47

Yes, there is - not in London, necessarily,

0:30:470:30:50

but we have Dune Records.

0:30:500:30:53

My guitarist actually plays for them,

0:30:530:30:55

it's not really their house band, but they have a band.

0:30:550:30:58

There's a band signed to Dune Records called Jazz Jamaica -

0:30:580:31:02

they're amazing.

0:31:020:31:04

Saw them at Brecon.

0:31:040:31:07

It was a massive auditorium, and they were on quite early in the day,

0:31:070:31:10

cos not a lot of people know who they are.

0:31:100:31:12

We sat at the back of the auditorium, expecting it to fill up,

0:31:120:31:15

and there was probably about 30 people in there.

0:31:150:31:18

When I say "massive", I mean the size of 1,000-capacity,

0:31:180:31:23

and we were practically alone, it was amazing.

0:31:230:31:26

They were so cool.

0:31:260:31:27

Their stuff is literally like ska jazz, and they're wicked.

0:31:270:31:31

Then there's members of that...

0:31:310:31:34

Denys Baptiste is in there, and there's Abraham Wilson,

0:31:340:31:39

who's a great trumpet player - he's doing his own thing.

0:31:390:31:42

But I think my favourite jazz artist in England

0:31:420:31:47

is definitely Soweto Kinch.

0:31:470:31:49

-He's great.

-I love Soweto. I melt every time I see him.

0:31:490:31:52

I'm like, "Hi, have you still got a girlfriend?"

0:31:520:31:56

And he's like, "I'll chuck her for you".

0:31:560:31:58

The mission to excel is a solitary one.

0:32:030:32:06

Hours of dedicated practice every day,

0:32:060:32:09

for little or no financial reward.

0:32:090:32:11

Milkmen and paperboys have long finished their rounds,

0:32:230:32:26

schoolchildren are on their way,

0:32:260:32:29

and the ordinary bustle goes on around.

0:32:290:32:32

The jazz musician's quest goes on regardless

0:32:320:32:35

in this unlikely setting.

0:32:350:32:38

High above the drudgery of routine,

0:32:380:32:40

trying to climb the stratosphere,

0:32:400:32:42

and be heard.

0:32:420:32:44

Were you also listening - I presume you were, when you were at school,

0:33:060:33:09

all girls together - listening to Top of the Pops

0:33:090:33:12

and regular pop music, as well?

0:33:120:33:14

Yeah. When I was very young, only when I was very young.

0:33:140:33:19

I watched Top of the Pops because you do watch Top of the Pops,

0:33:190:33:22

until you're old enough to go out on a Friday night -

0:33:220:33:24

is it Friday night?

0:33:240:33:26

It was Thursday, I don't know when it is now.

0:33:260:33:28

-I don't even think there is Top of the Pops any more.

-No, there isn't!

0:33:280:33:32

But, um...

0:33:320:33:34

But I loved Kylie when I was about six.

0:33:340:33:37

Then, when I was... Yeah, I loved Kylie when I was about six,

0:33:370:33:40

then Madonna. I graduated to the church of Madonna.

0:33:400:33:45

I converted to the church of Madonna. I loved Madonna so much.

0:33:450:33:48

And, um...

0:33:480:33:50

And when I was ten, I got wind of Salt'n'Pepa, and my life changed.

0:33:510:33:56

-What A Man.

-Completely, my life changed -

0:33:560:33:59

and from then on it was like R&B only from about ten.

0:33:590:34:04

Then, when I was about 14, jazz.

0:34:040:34:07

MUSIC: "Rhythm-a-ning" by Thelonious Monk

0:34:070:34:11

She was heavily influenced with Thelonious Monk

0:34:200:34:24

and I'd spend time in the evenings with her, listening to Monk,

0:34:240:34:29

and her following everything note for note.

0:34:290:34:31

It was amazing, really, because it's such heavy music, anyway.

0:34:310:34:34

Yeah, she was very much into instrumentation

0:34:440:34:47

as well as the voice, really,

0:34:470:34:50

and it came out when she'd sing.

0:34:500:34:53

She had that ability to improvise phrases,

0:34:530:34:56

and her rhythm was phenomenal,

0:34:560:34:58

so she could just literally manipulate it

0:34:580:35:01

in the way she wanted to,

0:35:010:35:02

and every night when we'd go on stage,

0:35:020:35:06

she could sing the same song, but different every night

0:35:060:35:08

and she'd give her all.

0:35:080:35:10

Did you have help in finding this stuff?

0:35:160:35:18

Did your parents have these records, or did you have to look for them?

0:35:180:35:22

No, my brother had everything - all the R&B

0:35:220:35:26

and all that stuff that I came to, it was called "swing" at the time.

0:35:260:35:29

Stuff like that, I would buy.

0:35:290:35:31

At the time my brother was listening to a lot of,

0:35:310:35:34

like, Sonic Youth, and Pearl Jam and Therapy?,

0:35:340:35:39

"I-want-to-die" bands,

0:35:390:35:40

and I had a very brief flirtation with that,

0:35:400:35:42

but I must have been literally, like I said, nine,

0:35:420:35:45

and then I discovered Salt'n'Pepa and I was like,

0:35:450:35:48

"I've got my music now".

0:35:480:35:49

He started listening to jazz when he was about 18,

0:35:490:35:52

and I was 14, and I just remember the first time I ever heard

0:35:520:35:55

Round Midnight, through the wall.

0:35:550:35:58

I was just like...

0:35:580:36:00

-Was it Monk or Miles playing it?

-Monk.

0:36:000:36:02

I was just like, "What is that?!"

0:36:020:36:04

I'll never forget that.

0:36:060:36:08

Yeah, I still remember hearing it.

0:36:080:36:10

Ella sings it, too - a great version of it.

0:36:100:36:13

Oh, really? Oh, yeah - of course.

0:36:130:36:16

I remember the first time I heard Ray Charles, ever.

0:36:160:36:19

It was Unchain My Heart.

0:36:190:36:22

And, um... Yeah, it was Unchain My Heart.

0:36:220:36:25

I remember walking into my brother's room,

0:36:250:36:27

and I opened the door... I always used to knock -

0:36:270:36:31

I opened the door and I was just like that...

0:36:310:36:34

and he goes "What?"

0:36:340:36:36

He looked at me like I was about to go, "Mum's dead",

0:36:360:36:39

or something like that. Touch wood.

0:36:390:36:41

He goes, "What's wrong?" I went, "Who is this?"

0:36:410:36:45

And he went, "It's Ray Charles." I was like, "(Ray Charles)".

0:36:450:36:48

From then on, I think I just listened to Ray Charles

0:36:480:36:51

for three months, exclusively. I was just like, "(Oh, my God)"

0:36:510:36:55

-# Unchain my heart

-Unchain my heart

0:36:560:36:59

-# Baby, let me go

-Unchain my heart

0:36:590:37:02

-# Unchain my heart

-Unchain my heart

0:37:020:37:05

-# Cos you don't love me no more

-Unchain my heart

0:37:050:37:09

# Every time I call you on the phone

0:37:100:37:13

# Some fella tells me that you're not at home

0:37:130:37:15

# So unchain my heart Oh, please, set me free. #

0:37:150:37:20

99% of all the songs, I start with the lyrics.

0:37:200:37:23

The lyrics must tell me a nice story - I must get some feeling.

0:37:230:37:27

It must be some kind of way

0:37:270:37:30

I can identify with that song,

0:37:300:37:34

and then it's like being a good actor or actress -

0:37:340:37:38

how you do a part on the stage where people become so involved with you,

0:37:380:37:42

they forget that you're just playing a part that somebody written,

0:37:420:37:46

and they getting mad at you,

0:37:460:37:49

or if you're funny, they laugh.

0:37:490:37:51

It's that kind of a thing.

0:37:510:37:53

If it's sad, they'll cry - because you do what you're doing

0:37:530:37:57

so well that you get the people involved

0:37:570:38:00

in the feeling of what you're doing.

0:38:000:38:02

And it's the same thing with singing a song,

0:38:020:38:05

and that's what I try to do.

0:38:050:38:06

I find songs that I feel I put myself into, and make you believe

0:38:060:38:11

in what I am singing about must have happened to me,

0:38:110:38:14

and you too, maybe.

0:38:140:38:17

She talked about music in a really beautiful way -

0:38:170:38:21

in a way that a real singer does.

0:38:210:38:25

And there's something about singers.

0:38:250:38:27

Um...

0:38:270:38:29

They're sort of...

0:38:290:38:31

They're odd - they carry songs with them.

0:38:310:38:35

How many songs is any singer singing at one time?

0:38:350:38:38

How many songs are in a singer's head, for example?

0:38:380:38:43

If you talk to a great jazz singer they'll say,

0:38:430:38:45

"I know 500 songs, but I'm singing 30 of them at the minute".

0:38:450:38:49

With Amy, even one so young,

0:38:500:38:53

who was only 22, on the edge of what became a truly brilliant career...

0:38:530:39:00

..that ended in tragedy.

0:39:010:39:04

When she was here, I felt she was really happy in some way.

0:39:040:39:10

That she...

0:39:100:39:11

Certainly, the way that she sang that night, she sang the blues away,

0:39:110:39:16

if you know what I mean.

0:39:160:39:18

She used her gift

0:39:180:39:21

to still her trembling soul.

0:39:210:39:24

She used her gift as a way to explain herself to herself,

0:39:240:39:29

to entertain people, sure.

0:39:290:39:31

But to sing the blues, and to give herself some relief.

0:39:310:39:34

INTRO: "Back To Black"

0:39:340:39:39

# He left no time to regret

0:39:500:39:55

# Kept his dick wet

0:39:570:39:59

# With his same old safe bet

0:40:000:40:04

# Me

0:40:050:40:09

# And my head high

0:40:090:40:11

# And my tears dry

0:40:120:40:14

# Get on without my guy

0:40:160:40:20

# You went back to what you know

0:40:210:40:27

# So far removed

0:40:280:40:31

# From all that we went through

0:40:310:40:35

# And I tread a troubled track

0:40:360:40:44

# My odds are stacked

0:40:440:40:46

# I'll go back to black

0:40:470:40:52

# We only said goodbye with words

0:40:530:40:57

# I died a hundred times

0:40:570:41:00

# You go back to her

0:41:010:41:03

# And I go back to...

0:41:050:41:08

# I go back to us

0:41:080:41:13

# I love you much

0:41:150:41:17

# It's not enough

0:41:190:41:21

# You love blow and I love puff

0:41:210:41:26

# And life, life is like a pipe

0:41:270:41:33

# And I'm a tiny penny

0:41:340:41:37

# Rolling up the walls inside

0:41:370:41:42

# We only said goodbye with words

0:41:440:41:48

# I died a hundred times

0:41:480:41:51

# You go back to her

0:41:520:41:55

# And I go back to...

0:41:550:41:59

# We only said goodbye with words

0:41:590:42:03

# I died a hundred times

0:42:030:42:07

# You go back to her

0:42:070:42:10

# And I go back to...

0:42:100:42:15

# I go back to...

0:42:150:42:20

# Black

0:42:200:42:24

# Black

0:42:250:42:27

# Black

0:42:300:42:33

# Black

0:42:350:42:37

# Black

0:42:390:42:42

# Black

0:42:440:42:47

# Black

0:42:490:42:52

# I go back to...

0:42:550:42:59

# I go back to...

0:42:590:43:03

# We only said goodbye with words

0:43:040:43:08

# I died a hundred times

0:43:080:43:12

# You go back to her

0:43:120:43:15

# And I...

0:43:150:43:17

# I

0:43:170:43:19

# We only said goodbye with words

0:43:190:43:23

# I died a hundred times

0:43:230:43:27

# You go back to her

0:43:270:43:31

# And I go back

0:43:310:43:35

# To black. #

0:43:350:43:38

APPLAUSE

0:43:400:43:42

Thank you.

0:43:420:43:43

The reference points on the new album, however,

0:43:490:43:52

in terms of soul music,

0:43:520:43:54

very often they're on the pop/soul end of things,

0:43:540:43:57

the girl groups, the Shangri-Las and those sorts of people.

0:43:570:44:01

What appeals to you in those groups, because they are so...some of them,

0:44:010:44:05

over the top, you know, melodrama by the bucket load?

0:44:050:44:08

Yeah, I love the drama, I love the atmosphere, I love the sound effects.

0:44:080:44:13

People will know Leader Of The Pack and things like that,

0:44:130:44:16

but there's so many of them, Sophisticated Boom Boom...

0:44:160:44:19

Yeah, and they write the most depressing songs ever

0:44:190:44:23

like I Can Never Go Home Any More.

0:44:230:44:25

When me and my boyfriend finished,

0:44:250:44:27

I used to listen to that song on repeat.

0:44:270:44:29

I listened to that song for two weeks just sitting on my kitchen floor,

0:44:290:44:32

with a bottle of Jack Daniels,

0:44:320:44:34

drinking the Jack Daniels and pass out, wake up and just do it again.

0:44:340:44:38

My flatmate used to come in, leave me bags of KFC and just leave.

0:44:380:44:41

She'd come in and see me,

0:44:410:44:43

and be like, "There's your dinner, I'm going out."

0:44:430:44:46

Listening to I Can Never Go Home Anymore...

0:44:460:44:48

Yeah. On repeat, like that.

0:44:480:44:50

# I'm gonna hide if she don't leave me alone

0:44:500:44:54

That's the saddest song in the world,

0:45:360:45:38

that is the most depressing song. It's like, "Mum, I'm in love."

0:45:380:45:41

She's like, "You're too young, you can't be."

0:45:410:45:43

"Well, Mum, I'm leaving." First of all she's like,

0:45:430:45:45

"I've got nothing in my life, I just go to school." And then, a miracle.

0:45:450:45:48

-The angels came.

-A boy. Her mum dies of grief because she never goes home.

0:45:480:45:51

And when she leaves home, she's like, "I don't love him anyway."

0:45:510:45:54

It's like, so depressing.

0:45:540:45:56

What's that line? "The angels came and took her for a friend."

0:45:560:45:58

Yeah, "She grew so lonely in the end,

0:45:580:46:00

"that the angels took her for their friend

0:46:000:46:02

"and I can never go home anymore and that's sad."

0:46:020:46:05

# Never

0:46:050:46:09

# Go home anymore... #

0:46:090:46:13

There is this sense in our culture of the suffering artist

0:46:140:46:19

or that art come out of a sense of things not being right.

0:46:190:46:26

And it's that struggle, the struggle of suffering,

0:46:260:46:31

or people being really extreme

0:46:310:46:34

and being on the edge

0:46:340:46:38

and that is where great art comes from,

0:46:380:46:42

and with Amy there is this sense that, yes,

0:46:420:46:46

there was this wonderful art, this wonderful music that came out

0:46:460:46:50

and to a certain extent came out from her living a life on the edge

0:46:500:46:56

but I think there is sort of, like a category mistake.

0:46:560:47:02

It's not, it doesn't have to stay on the edge, you know,

0:47:020:47:08

it's maybe the great art comes out of the resolution between

0:47:080:47:14

being on the edge and then coming to a comfortable, safe place.

0:47:140:47:21

Sort of a more whole place for a person.

0:47:210:47:26

I find that any time I listen to any of Amy's music,

0:47:260:47:30

it is tinged with that touch of sadness -

0:47:300:47:33

that she never got the resolution, it seems so very tragic.

0:47:330:47:39

This is my first single. Before I go on,

0:47:390:47:41

I'd like to introduce my band to you.

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We've got Robin Banerjee on the guitar.

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And Dale Davis on the bass.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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He's got his on fan club, you know.

0:47:540:47:56

All right, this is called Rehab.

0:47:560:47:58

You boys going to count me in?

0:48:020:48:05

One, two, one, two, three.

0:48:050:48:07

# They tried to make me go to rehab

0:48:080:48:11

# I said no, no, no

0:48:110:48:14

# Yes, I've been black But when I come back

0:48:150:48:18

# You'll know, know, know

0:48:180:48:22

# I ain't got the time

0:48:220:48:25

# And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

0:48:250:48:28

# Just try to make me go to rehab

0:48:280:48:31

# I won't go, go, go

0:48:310:48:34

# I'd rather be

0:48:360:48:38

# At home with Ray

0:48:380:48:41

# I ain't got 70 days

0:48:440:48:48

# Cos there's nothing

0:48:490:48:51

# There's nothing you can teach me

0:48:510:48:54

# That I can't learn

0:48:560:48:59

# From Mr Hathaway

0:48:590:49:03

# I didn't get a lot in class

0:49:040:49:09

# But I know it don't come

0:49:100:49:14

# In a shot glass

0:49:140:49:17

# They tried to make me go to rehab

0:49:170:49:20

# I said no, no, no

0:49:200:49:23

# Yes, I been black

0:49:240:49:26

# But when I come back you'll know, know, know

0:49:260:49:30

# I ain't got the time

0:49:320:49:35

# And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

0:49:350:49:39

# Just try to make me go to rehab

0:49:390:49:41

# I won't go, go, go

0:49:410:49:44

# The man said "Why you think you here?"

0:49:460:49:51

# I said, "I got no idea"

0:49:530:49:58

# I said, "I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby

0:49:590:50:06

# "So I always keep a bottle near here"

0:50:060:50:13

# He said

0:50:130:50:15

# "I just think you're depressed"

0:50:150:50:19

# Just me

0:50:190:50:22

# Yeah, baby

0:50:220:50:24

# And the rest

0:50:240:50:27

# They tried to make me go to rehab

0:50:270:50:29

# I said no, no, no

0:50:290:50:33

# Yes, I've been black

0:50:340:50:36

# But when I come back

0:50:360:50:38

# You'll know, know, know

0:50:380:50:40

# I don't never want to drink again

0:50:420:50:46

# I just

0:50:480:50:51

# I just need a friend

0:50:510:50:55

# I'm not going to spend ten weeks

0:50:570:51:00

# Have everyone think

0:51:020:51:05

# I'm on the mend

0:51:050:51:09

# It's not just my pride

0:51:110:51:14

# It's just till

0:51:160:51:19

# These tears have dried

0:51:190:51:23

# They tried to make me go to rehab

0:51:230:51:26

# I said no, no, no

0:51:260:51:29

# Yes, I've been black but when I come back

0:51:310:51:34

# You'll know, know, know

0:51:340:51:37

# I ain't got the time

0:51:380:51:41

# And if my daddy thinks I'm fine

0:51:410:51:45

# Just try to make me go to rehab

0:51:450:51:48

# I won't go, go, go. #

0:51:480:51:51

APPLAUSE

0:51:510:51:53

Thank you very much.

0:51:560:51:58

In any sense was this album, in any way at all,

0:51:580:52:01

moving you away from the jazz tag,

0:52:010:52:03

-did you want to get away from that at all?

-No. Not at all.

0:52:030:52:06

I'm a jazz singer. I can do jazz,

0:52:060:52:09

I can do hip-hop and I was just not listening to that any more.

0:52:090:52:14

And what I listen to influences what I write. Very much so.

0:52:140:52:20

I'm going to do my third album now,

0:52:200:52:23

just get it out...not get it out the way, not like, knock it out.

0:52:230:52:26

I'm just gonna...

0:52:260:52:28

I'm just... I'm just taking every opportunity.

0:52:300:52:33

Like, I've got two week off over Christmas, I'm going to work.

0:52:330:52:36

I'm not going to sit around and eat chocolates and drink brandy,

0:52:360:52:43

I'm not going to do stuff like that.

0:52:430:52:45

I'm going to have Christmas Eve with my boyfriend,

0:52:450:52:48

I'm going to break him into Christmas.

0:52:480:52:50

We're going to watch Bad Santa, Elf and It's A Wonderful Life,

0:52:500:52:52

I'm going to cook dinner, and if he doesn't cry, I'm going to leave him.

0:52:520:52:55

-If that doesn't work, get rid of him.

-I'm going to leave him!

0:52:550:52:58

Bad Santa, Elf, It's A Wonderful Life

0:52:580:53:01

and then me packing my bags. Literally.

0:53:010:53:05

And then Christmas Day at my mum's, at my auntie's,

0:53:050:53:10

Boxing Day at his mum's and then back to work.

0:53:100:53:14

It was literally a few week after the album took off in America

0:53:180:53:23

and she'd won loads of awards and then that was it, you know.

0:53:230:53:27

We just went off and promoted the record

0:53:270:53:29

and I think the demand for her was so great then

0:53:290:53:32

that she probably didn't have a chance

0:53:320:53:34

to sit down and write that next album, really.

0:53:340:53:37

She burnt so brightly, you know.

0:53:390:53:41

I have no idea what to do now.

0:53:410:53:43

What?

0:53:430:53:44

-'Do you miss her?

-Absolutely, I think about her.

0:53:440:53:47

'When she was alive I used to think about her all the time, every day,

0:53:470:53:50

'and now she's gone, you know, I always think about her.

0:53:500:53:54

'It's a big loss.

0:53:540:53:56

'It's life but it's a big loss, you know, really.'

0:53:560:53:59

Yeah, OK. This is called Me And Mr Jones.

0:53:590:54:04

I don't need the pre-chord! Thank you.

0:54:060:54:10

# Nobody stands in between me and my man

0:54:140:54:19

# It's me and Mr Jones

0:54:190:54:22

# What kind of fuckery is this?

0:54:250:54:28

# You made me miss the Slick Rick gig

0:54:300:54:34

# You thought I didn't love you when I did

0:54:370:54:41

# Can't believe you played me out like that

0:54:420:54:49

# No, you ain't worth guest list

0:54:510:54:55

# Plus one of all them girls you kissed

0:54:560:55:01

# You can't keep lying to yourself like this

0:55:030:55:08

# Can't believe you played yourself

0:55:100:55:14

# Like this

0:55:140:55:18

# Slick Rick's one thing

0:55:190:55:22

# But come Brixton

0:55:220:55:26

# Nobody stands in between me and my man

0:55:260:55:32

# Cos it's me and Mr Jones

0:55:320:55:37

# Me and Mr Jones

0:55:390:55:45

# What kind of fuckery are we?

0:55:450:55:48

# Nowadays you don't mean dick to me

0:55:500:55:55

# But I might let you make it up to me

0:55:560:56:00

# Yeah, yeah, baby

0:56:020:56:05

# Who's playing Saturday?

0:56:050:56:10

# What kind of fuckery are you?

0:56:130:56:15

# 'Side from Sammy You're my best black Jew

0:56:170:56:22

# I thought I could swear that we were through

0:56:240:56:28

# I still wonder 'bout the things you do

0:56:310:56:41

# Mr Destiny, nine and 14

0:56:410:56:48

# Nobody stands in between me and my man

0:56:480:56:53

# Cos it's me and Mr Jones

0:56:530:57:00

# Yeah

0:57:000:57:03

# Yeah

0:57:030:57:08

# Yeah... #

0:57:080:57:12

APPLAUSE Thank you.

0:57:140:57:18

Thank you very much.

0:57:180:57:20

When Amy Winehouse sang, she let us in,

0:57:200:57:25

if we have the ears to hear

0:57:250:57:28

and the eyes to see into the heart

0:57:280:57:32

of what she really was as a person and as an artist.

0:57:320:57:37

She touched all of us that year

0:57:370:57:40

because she was so "un"

0:57:400:57:43

what she had been represented as in the tabloids.

0:57:430:57:48

And we didn't care about any of that,

0:57:480:57:51

we weren't interested in any of that and still aren't.

0:57:510:57:54

It was just brilliant that she came with her spindly little legs

0:57:540:57:58

and her mental hair and sang her heart out in Kerry for us.

0:57:580:58:04

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

0:58:040:58:07

Thanks for talking to us.

0:58:190:58:21

Thanks for making this trip, I know it was a long journey.

0:58:210:58:23

Actually, having heard what some of you had to do to get here,

0:58:230:58:27

mine was a walk in the park, to be honest.

0:58:270:58:30

All we did was have a two-hour drive from another airport,

0:58:300:58:33

at least we got a flight.

0:58:330:58:36

You got here and you did the business in there tonight.

0:58:360:58:38

-Thanks, Amy, thanks.

-Thank you.

-Cheers.

0:58:380:58:42

-Sorry I went off on one of my chats.

-I went off on one, too.

0:58:420:58:46

I don't get to talk to people very often.

0:58:460:58:49

-Oh, my God!

-Wow!

0:58:490:58:52

Thank you so much.

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