Who Is Poly Styrene? Arena


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'Identity is the crisis, can't you see?

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'When you look in the mirror, do you see yourself?

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'Do you see yourself on the TV screen?

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'Do you see yourself in the magazine?

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'When you see yourself, does it make you scream?

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'When you look in the mirror, do you smash it quick?

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'Do you take the glass and slash your wrists?

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'Did you do it for fame, did you do it in a fit?'

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# Did you do it before you can write about i-i-it?

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# Identity

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# Is the crisis

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# Can't you see?

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# Identity

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# Identity-y-y-y

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# Yeah! #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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CHANTING: We want Poly! We want Poly!

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I chose the name Poly Styrene because it's a lightweight, disposable product.

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'Art-i-ficial!'

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Yeah, it sounded all right

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because I thought it was a send-up of being a pop star,

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like a little figure, not me, being polystyrene.

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Just plastic, disposable.

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That's what pop stars all meant to me and so therefore, I thought I might as well send it up.

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'In the last half century, science has devised an entirely new family of materials - plastics.'

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# I know I'm artificial

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# But don't put the blame on me

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# I was reared with appliances

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# In a consumer society

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# Existence is elusive

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# The kind that is supported

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# By mechanical resources

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# Existence is elusive

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# The kind that is supported

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# By mechanical resources... #

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At one stage, I mean, I was much more absorbed by being Poly Styrene and playing that role

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because I liked the character and I thought it was fun,

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but now I'm much more like just Marianne Elliott.

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# In a consumer society

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# In a consumer society

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# I wanna be instamatic

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# I wanna be a frozen pea

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# I wanna be dehydrated

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# In a consumer society

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# In a consumer society

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# In a consumer society-y-y... #

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# Just bring a little Sunlight into everything! #

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'New Sunlight Lemon Liquid for that bright and happy sparkle!'

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Hello. Now I'm testing the Electrolux Automatic 345.

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'My mind is like a plastic bag that corresponds to all those ads.

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'It sucks up all the rubbish that is fed in through my ear.

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'I eat Kleenex for breakfast and use soft, hygienic Weetabix to dry my tears.'

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'Whatever you're buying for your home, look in Yellow Pages first.

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'You'll find what you're looking for so much quicker.'

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I got my name from the Yellow Pages.

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# Let your fingers do the walking... #

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Can that be limper? Can we try it just a bit more...?

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'I am a poseur and I don't care.

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'I like to make people stare.'

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And just again here.

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'When I was about five or six,

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'I used to have a big trunk and all the clothes in there used to come from jumble sales.

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'And I used to play dressing up. And I used to make up with my powder paints.'

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Where's the happiness in your life gone? That's good.

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Right, down to the light. Good.

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Now you've got that naughty look, you see.

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You see, that's what I was after.

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Now, if you could stop and stamp and turn and face me...

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'I am a poseur and I don't care.

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'I like to make people stare.

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'My facade is just a fake.

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'Shock, horror, no escape.'

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# I know you're antiseptic, your... #

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BACKING TRACK PLAYS

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Can you hear anything? I can't hear myself.

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I can a bit now, but I couldn't then.

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-FAINT:

-Can you hear me now?

-Yeah.

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# Her phobia is infection... #

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Can you turn the track down a bit for me on my headphones?

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-Do you want everything all down?

-Yeah, it's just too loud.

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BACKING TRACK CONTINUES

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# She's a germ-free adolescent

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# Cleanliness is her obsession

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# Cleans her teeth ten times a day

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# Scrub away, scrub away, scrub away the SR... #

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'I wanted to have a total obsession about synthetic things in the modern world,

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'so therefore, I dressed to, you know, fit.

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'It went with the name and the songs and everything.

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'I just wanted it to be inter-related.'

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'Clothes are never really you.

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'That's why people wear them because you can just create an image with clothes.

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'They're just part of a facade which is good fun to play with sometimes.'

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It's got holes all over it.

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Oh, come on, darling. I mean, you know, this is Hollywood.

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SHE GIGGLES

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Put that on. Try it on. Even I might too.

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-Yeah, you should try it on.

-No, it's your movie, hon.

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This is your life.

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ELECTRIC GUITAR INTRO: "I Can't Do Anything" - X-Ray Spex

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# I can't read and I can't spell

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# I can't even get to hell

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# I can't love and I can't hate

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# I can't even hesitate

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# I can't dance and I can't walk

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# I can't even try to talk...

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# Freddy tried to strangle me

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# With my plastic popper beads

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# But I hit him back

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# With my pet rat

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# Yeah, I hit him back

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# With my pet rat... #

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PLAYS GENTLE NOTES

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There are certain times when you just want to hide.

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You don't want people to start looking at you or see you or anything like that.

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You just want to be on your own.

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I mean, it isn't normal for people to be surrounded with people telling them that they're great.

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That isn't a normal situation. Most people do not get that.

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It isn't normal to be up on stage and people jumping all over you and ripping your clothes off.

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That isn't a normal thing for anybody to take.

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And then you get people coming backstage as well and then you get people coming to your house.

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Then you get people trying to break in and then you get people surrounding you all the time.

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You just are never on your own and that is just not normal,

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so you just say, "Go away, I don't want to see anybody."

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And because they think you are a performer

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and you are supposed to be this thing that does all these... entertains everybody,

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they think that you must be having a nervous breakdown because you don't want to see anybody.

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But you're not. You're just being perfectly normal,

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just saying, you know, "I want to be by myself."

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'My mind is like a switchboard

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'with crossed and tangled lines.

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'Contented with confusion that is plugged into my head.

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'I don't know what's going on.

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' "It's the operator's job, not mine," I said.'

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# She wants to be a woman, wants to be a man

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# She wants to be a woman, wants to be a man

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# She wants to be a woman, wants to be a man

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# She wants to be a woman, wants to be a man

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# She wants to join the hermaphrodite clan... #

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BANGING OF DRUMS

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Yeah, OK, we're going straight into E.

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E, yes.

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Just like the beginning. Just like the beginning.

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GUITAR AND SAX INTRO

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# Inflammable, waiting to explode

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# He needs another dose of silicone

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# Wants to be a woman, wants to be a man

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# He wants to join the hermaphrodite cla-a-an

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# Influenced by the fashion pages

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# Influenced by others' phases

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# It ain't hip if you are hetero

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# You're a pseudo homo intellectual... #

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'I started writing when I was about 12.

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'I suppose they were kind of thoughts and just clearing out my thoughts.'

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-Just like the beginning.

-Yeah, at the beginning, we start in E.

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I started in E, but we're in different keys.

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-You are.

-So from that F then, you want to go into the E straight away?

-Yeah.

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THEY PLAY INTRO

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-That's E, right?

-Right.

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E, that's what I was doing, right? Then I changed. It wasn't the...

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Let's do it again.

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'Basically, I just find one word and then I write the rest around the word.

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'And Identity is just...

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'It's like everything. You don't think it's about you at the time, but then it could be about you.'

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I've got them. They're really great.

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Hang on, hang on. Let me show you.

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-Oh, wow!

-Oh, terrific.

-Far out.

-Really nice.

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'I like writing because I can write by myself. I can just go away and write.

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'Just alone and then the rest is a series of compromises with other people.'

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They're all great.

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'At 15, I went and got a job,

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'buying clothes for the shops, but I was just sort of learning.

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'A junior.

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'Then I left home and I just went hitching all the way round England.

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'I just felt that I wanted to do something else and I didn't know what I wanted to do exactly,

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'so I thought I'd just go away and just think about things by myself.

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'Then I thought I wanted to be in a band, so I just decided to get a band together.

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'I just put an advert in Melody Maker

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'for "young punks who want to stick it together".

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'Then that's just how it started.'

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Stuck in a van...

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# Why did you ever let me down? Why did you ever let me... #

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If it's a jam like this all the way,

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all the way to Birmingham...

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-We're going to Liverpool, though.

-Oh, all right.

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-RADIO:

-'That was The Buzzcocks.

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'This is X-Ray Spex and a version of the song which is on the B-side of the current single, called Age.'

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ELECTRIC GUITAR INTRO

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That's all right.

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'Well, I don't really want to go on touring for ever.

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'I would never be doing anything like this when I was old.

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'There's lots of other things I'd like to do like writing and things like that.'

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# Age, she's so afraid

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# Age, she's not the rage

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# Age, she's so afraid

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# Age, she's not the rage

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# She never seems to realise

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# Celluloid beauty never dies

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# Shivering in silhouette

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# Curtsey for the minuet... #

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'Actually to have to go out on the road, I don't particularly enjoy that,

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'especially when you just go to...

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'You travel all that way, all those miles to go to some really small, little club

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'and only about a hundred people sort of are there,

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'which is OK if you really enjoy it, but once you've done it a few times, it's just boring.'

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-I think you can take a short cut here.

-You can't go down there.

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-Ask the taxi driver.

-That's a good idea.

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Liverpool Street, I think it's called. Or London Street. I know it begins with an L.

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-Excuse me. Do you know where Eric's is?

-We don't know where we are. That's the point.

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Lost in Liverpool!

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-Where's the station?

-The station is over there.

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It's that way, that way, that way or just down there.

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To the left.

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-Are these the lights you remember?

-Yeah, this looks...

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This one here, look. You see where it says...? Yeah, right here.

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You come down the hill and it's down here on the left or on the right.

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-Oh!

-What?

-It's all right.

-There was a dog running out.

-I thought it was going to get run over.

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-Where is it? Is it over there?

-No, it's up there.

-It's up here!

-All right, all right.

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One of these dingy doors.

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What's all this then? Are they expecting a riot?

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-Where's Steve?

-This is great.

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PLAYS A FEW NOTES

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ELECTRIC GUITAR JOINS IN

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-Steve, we'd better go and take Poly to the hotel.

-Hello, monitor check, one, two.

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It's Elliott and Stuart.

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OK, thanks.

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-Where is it?

-It's just through the fire door there.

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-It's the police!

-Is this better?

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-Yeah, hang on a minute, lads, while we get a few more in here.

-Hold on. We're stuck!

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LAUGHTER

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'Properties of the "polys" like polyethylene and polyester

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'or polyvinyl chloride puts the "hi" in "hi-fi".'

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What's this? Tomorrow's World or something?

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I don't know what programme it is. I just turned it on.

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I want one of those. You see shops in town where they've got all those fancy telephones.

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No, I haven't seen that shop.

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There's one amazing one. It's got all the workings of a telephone inside this huge glass dome.

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You plunge your hand in and pull out the receiver and when you dial, you can see all the bits inside.

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He now wants us on at 11, so I said he'd have to wait...

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'I'm like an actress, so on stage I'm one thing and off stage I'm something else.

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'But most people are not.

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'They just perform all the time.

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'I just consider myself as a person first

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'and anything else what anybody else might call you,

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'well, they're just names, really, aren't they,

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'just given to trends and people and things like that.

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'It's dark and eerie and it's really late.

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'Come on, kids, don't hesitate.

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'We're going down to the underground.

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'The subterranean is a bottomless pit.

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'The vinyl vultures are after it.

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'Molten lava, sulphur vapours,

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'smoulder on to obliterate us.

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'If you've got the urge, come on, let's submerge.'

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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SHOUTING

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CHEERING

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Art-i-ficial!

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THRASHING GUITAR INTRO

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# I know I'm artificial

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# But don't put the blame on me

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# I was reared with appliances

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# In a consumer society

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# In a consumer society

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# My existence is elusive

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# The kind that is supported

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# By mechanical resources... #

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'When you get an audience going hysterical or screaming or things like that,

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'that's not a sort of normal thing to do.

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'It's like an exaggerated peak period

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'and a series of places in a certain period of time

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'and you just go from one lot of hysterical people to the next lot of hysterical people

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'to the next lot of hysterical people to the next lot,

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'which is just, you know, just too much.'

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# I-i-in a consumer society

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# I wanna be instamatic

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# I wanna be a frozen pea

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# I wanna be dehydrated

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# In a consumer society

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# In a consumer society

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# I-i-i-n a consumer society! #

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'These mice are taking part in an experiment that promises to be one of the most explosive issues

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'of the future. For the last four years, Prof John Maynard Smith has been working on a technique

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'that could dramatically extend the lives not only of mice, but men.

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'Back in 1994...'

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'They can deliberately upgrade the intelligence of animals now if they want.

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'They could sort of genetically engineer people for certain jobs.'

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'..the eggs were fertilised... and these mice were born.'

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'In the wrong hands and used the wrong way, it's terrible.

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'I find that quite frightening that we won't have much control.'

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'The question now is should we do it with human beings. We can't do it for adults,

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'but should we do it with an egg? Should we do it for an unborn human being?'

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# It's so very tempting

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# Will biologists resist

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# When he becomes the creator

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# Will he let us exi-i-i-st? #

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'It's so very tempting, Will biologists resist?

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'When he becomes the creator Will he let us exist?

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'Genetic engineering could create the perfect race

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'Could create an unknown life force That could us exterminate.'

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# It's so very tempting

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# Will biologists resist?

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# When he becomes the creator

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# Will he let us exi-i-i-ist? #

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'When you feel that you're not an individual,

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'then it seems more important.

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'Maybe you're just one person in a great big, great big organisation

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'and you just think, "How boring."

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'Then you think, "Wouldn't it be great to be an individual?" But people recognise you.

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'Then you think, "Oh, God. Why can't I be just, you know, walking along like everybody else?"

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'Nobody stops them and they can just get on with what they're doing and nobody says anything.'

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-The blue one's probably the next one round, actually.

-Yeah.

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OK, here.

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136 and 134.

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-Is that going to be all right?

-Yeah, I think so. It's fine.

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We'll be rehearsing with you very shortly now. If you'd like to go into the studio and wait around.

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Mike, can you just have a word with her and ask her if she will go through the next numbers

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as she's going to do it on the show tonight? She's going to talk now. I believe.

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-No, I'm not going to do any chatting between this one.

-Well, someone was lying.

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-Never mind.

-No, I don't mind no chat, but someone just told me that she was going to chat.

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-It starts on lead guitar. Four...

-# I live off you

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One, two, three, four!

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And go into the guitar, Ron.

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See the sax, Three.

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Out you come, Two.

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Oh, all right. Out you come, Three.

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-See her, Two, thank you.

-# I live off you

0:25:220:25:26

-# You live off me... #

-Use you as a cutaway, Ron.

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Once you've viewed One, get him out.

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It's the other hand, yeah. It's the other hand.

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Out you come now, Ron.

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Actually, it's not bad.

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Using you for that, Three.

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Well, let's get Three out now.

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Well, he can go across. Take one.

0:26:070:26:11

Up you go to the sax, One.

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Three to the desk.

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Is that it?

0:26:220:26:24

And back to the desk on Three.

0:26:240:26:27

So we're going to do a dress rehearsal?

0:26:290:26:33

-So, Mike, if Poly and X-Ray Spex can liaise...

-OK, thank you.

0:26:330:26:37

I could remember what Oh Bondage Up Yours came out on, originally.

0:26:380:26:43

-Virgin.

-It was Virgin?!

-Yeah.

0:26:430:26:45

-Was it? I knew it wasn't EMI.

-No, it was Virgin.

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-But...

-This is an example of the new EMI image!

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Are you the man responsible?

0:26:560:26:59

Yes!

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You've got to say that, anyway, I suppose.

0:27:000:27:03

MUSIC: "Old Grey Whistle Test" THEME

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Luther, quickly. 28 seconds.

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Close up on Three.

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Eight. Seven. Six.

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Five. Four. Three.

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-Two. One. Zero.

-Cue her.

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'Now the relaxation sequence.

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'Relax.

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'Relax. The whole of my body relaxed.

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'This man says he survives the outer chaos because he can create his own inner calm.'

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'If you just are yourself most of the time

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'and you just act out this other character just another part of the time,

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'then it's OK, I suppose.

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'Not forever, but...

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'Cos there's just things that you wanna do on your own, you know, which you never get time to do

0:28:200:28:26

'cos you get totally absorbed by all the performance and everything that goes with it,

0:28:260:28:32

'so you neglect a lot of things that you'd probably do otherwise.'

0:28:320:28:37

RECORDING: Here are the songs of some of the birds of London parks and gardens.

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We start with the wood pigeon and robin.

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'I still wouldn't mind furthering my education properly, finishing it off when I'm a bit older.

0:28:450:28:51

'Science interests me quite a lot.

0:28:520:28:54

-SHE LAUGHS

-'Science and biology.

0:28:540:28:57

'Basically, cos of the future possibilities of those areas.'

0:28:570:29:02

BIRDSONG

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# I'm a cliche, I'm a cliche I'm a cliche

0:29:040:29:07

# I'm a cliche I'm a cliche you've seen before

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# I'm a cliche that lives next door I'm a cliche, know what I mean

0:29:110:29:15

# I'm a cliche, pink is obscene

0:29:150:29:17

-# Yama yama yama

-Yama yama yama boring boredom

0:29:190:29:23

# Yama yama yama, yama yama yama Boring boredom, boring boredom... #

0:29:230:29:28

'I'm a cliche in the sense that I've got two feet, two hands, tem fingers...!

0:29:290:29:35

'Two eyes, hair.

0:29:350:29:38

-LAUGHS

-'Brain. Whether that counts or not in cliches, I'm not sure.

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'But...

0:29:440:29:46

-'And a body and two legs, so, yeah, I'm a cliche!

-SHE GIGGLES

0:29:470:29:51

# Yama yama yama, yama yama yama Boring boredom, boring boredom

0:29:520:29:57

# Yama yama yama, yama yama yama Boring boredom, boring boredom

0:29:570:30:01

# Yama yama yama, yama yama yama Boring boredom, boring boredom

0:30:010:30:05

# Yama yama yama, yama yama yama Boring boredom, boring boredom. #

0:30:050:30:10

'"I drove my polypropylene car On wheels of sponge

0:30:180:30:22

'"Then pulled in to a Wimpy Bar To have a rubber bun

0:30:220:30:26

'"I clambered over mounds and mounds of polystyrene foam

0:30:280:30:32

'"Then fell into a swimming pool Filled with Fairy Snow

0:30:320:30:36

'"And watched the world turn Day-Glo."

0:30:360:30:40

'It is just like a fantasy, it's like a daydream.

0:30:410:30:46

'It was like I was clambering over the mounds and mounds of polystyrene.'

0:30:460:30:51

It's a nice table, this one. It's got some nice features on it.

0:30:520:30:56

'Everything's real. Even if it's unreal, it's still real because it exists

0:30:560:31:01

'and you can see it and you can touch it and it can also be a figment of your imagination.

0:31:010:31:08

'It's like somebody said, "Are you Poly Styrene?" And I said, "No, I'm real. I'm a person."'

0:31:080:31:14

# The X-rays were penetrating

0:31:140:31:18

# Through the latex breeze

0:31:180:31:20

# Synthetic fibre see-thru leaves

0:31:200:31:24

# Fell from the rayon trees

0:31:240:31:26

# The day the world turned Day-Glo

0:31:260:31:30

# You know, you know The world turned Day-Glo

0:31:300:31:34

# You know, you know The world turned dayglo

0:31:340:31:38

# You know, you know The world turned Day-Glo

0:31:380:31:42

# You know... #

0:31:420:31:44

Oh!

0:31:460:31:47

Good night.

0:31:480:31:50

What kind of things do you think of when you talk about Day-Glo and polystyrene?

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They mean more to me than somebody just saying "plastic". What kind of images do they bring to your mind?

0:32:000:32:06

Em...

0:32:060:32:07

Well, it's difficult to explain, really.

0:32:080:32:11

I mean, it is plastic, but sort of products, disposable things, throwaway things.

0:32:110:32:17

Day-Glo is just, you know, bright colours. A lot of people think it's drug-influenced, but it's not.

0:32:170:32:23

It's just about plastics and fantasy and the world just around plastics.

0:32:230:32:29

Sometimes they sound sad to me. This may just be my ears.

0:32:290:32:32

'Every time we play, people go mad

0:32:360:32:39

'and jump all over the stage and things get wrecked.

0:32:390:32:43

'It's exciting, but it's like a neurosis, really.

0:32:430:32:46

'It's bound to have some side effect on you. You just blank out, you just cut off.

0:32:460:32:52

'You don't want to be this thing that they've come to see and say, "No, I can't do it any more."

0:32:520:32:58

'It's a novelty, people coming backstage all the time.

0:32:590:33:03

'It's quite flattering, but after a while you think, no.

0:33:030:33:07

'You just don't want to see any new people.

0:33:070:33:10

'If they want to see me, they should see me onstage because they're fans, they're not really friends.

0:33:100:33:16

'It's not really good for you because you just start to adopt more and more this stage personality

0:33:160:33:22

'for them. That's what they're expecting, so you just act it out.'

0:33:220:33:27

-Somebody said to me that your teeth braces, somebody said it was just a device, you know.

-No.

0:33:270:33:33

-A stage prop.

-It can't come off.

-Can't it?

-No, not yet, anyway.

0:33:330:33:38

-Is it screwed in?

-No, it's cemented on.

0:33:380:33:42

-What sort of questions do you ask yourself all the time?

-None any more.

0:33:420:33:48

-There's no in-fighting going on?

-No.

-It's all over.

0:33:480:33:52

I was going to say, what did you think of the crowd last night? Were you surprised?

0:33:550:34:00

-I thought it was good.

-Were you frightened?

-No.

0:34:000:34:04

Do you rely on Falcon for sort of, like, psychological protection?

0:34:040:34:10

-No.

-He's not like a buffer zone between you and all the bad vibes?

0:34:100:34:15

No.

0:34:160:34:17

-Do you live in a basement flat in his house?

-Er, why?

0:34:170:34:22

-I was just asking.

-Oh.

-I'm not trying to imply you had an affair.

0:34:220:34:27

-No, I'm not saying that you are, but I just wondered what the...

-What the significance of it was?

0:34:270:34:33

Well, I think... Well, it's sort of like there he can look after you,

0:34:330:34:38

-like a patriarch, you know? Do you know what I mean?

-Er, well, no, not really.

0:34:380:34:45

We want to go inside because it's really raining very heavily.

0:34:450:34:49

-Shall I take these?

-Are these really for me?

-Yeah.

-Oh!

0:34:490:34:53

Come on.

0:34:530:34:55

It's terribly wet.

0:34:550:34:58

-Hello.

-Oh, hello.

-Welcome to EMI Records. My name is Geoff Webb. Would you like to sign our VIP book?

0:35:050:35:11

'Plastics play an essential role in reproducing sound and vision and in recording it.'

0:35:110:35:17

Hello. This is Radio EMI and today visiting the factory will be X-Ray Spex featuring Poly Styrene.

0:35:190:35:25

In the charts this week at Number 22 is their latest single, Germfree Adolescents.

0:35:250:35:31

-Hello.

-Hello.

-This is Poly Styrene from X-Ray Spex.

-Yes, I know.

0:35:400:35:44

-We've come to see what you're doing.

-Are your teeth genuine?

-Pardon?

-Are your teeth genuine?

-Yeah.

0:35:440:35:50

Oh.

0:35:500:35:52

No, I was saying on telly, you look as if you've got steel teeth.

0:35:520:35:57

Very nice.

0:35:570:35:59

It's my great pleasure this morning to introduce you to the lead singer Poly Styrene.

0:36:100:36:14

-Good morning, Poly.

-Hello.

0:36:140:36:17

I want to start off by asking you, Poly Styrene is an unusual name. How did it come about?

0:36:170:36:22

Well, I found that name by looking through Yellow Pages.

0:36:220:36:26

And it's a plastic, so I just chose that name.

0:36:260:36:31

-Different, isn't it?

-Well...

0:36:310:36:34

What's your real name?

0:36:340:36:36

-You ain't going to tell me, are you?

-No.

0:36:360:36:39

-'So you're the sole songwriter?

-Well, you could say that, yeah.

0:36:390:36:44

'With the release of your first album, how do you see your music developing?'

0:36:440:36:49

I can't really put into words how I see the music developing.

0:36:490:36:53

Maybe it will turn into the sound of a Hoover.

0:36:530:36:58

# Oh bondage, up yours

0:37:030:37:06

# Oh bondage, up yours

0:37:060:37:09

# Oh bondage, up yours...

0:37:090:37:12

# Bind me, tie me Chain me to the wall

0:37:140:37:18

# I wanna be a slave to you all

0:37:180:37:21

# Oh bondage, up yours

0:37:210:37:23

# Oh bondage, no more

0:37:230:37:26

# Oh bondage, up yours

0:37:260:37:29

# Oh bondage, no more

0:37:290:37:32

# Oh bondage, up yours

0:37:320:37:35

# Oh bondage, no more

0:37:350:37:38

# Oh bondage, no more! #

0:37:380:37:41

-Give us a kiss!

-Good night.

-Give us a kiss!

-On the cheek.

0:37:410:37:46

Get off!

0:37:460:37:48

PRACTICE PLAYING

0:38:070:38:09

'It sort of depends on what you class as shutting yourself off.

0:38:290:38:34

'To demand a certain amount of privacy I think is definitely something I'll always do,

0:38:340:38:39

'but, er...

0:38:390:38:41

'I've never been the type of person to have lots of people around me in any case.

0:38:430:38:49

'When you're working, that's something else,

0:38:490:38:53

'but when you're sort of by yourself I don't like it. I'm quiet.

0:38:530:38:57

'I'm not the only one that's quiet. The others are quiet, too. Jak hates crowds,

0:38:570:39:02

'Paul likes to be by himself. He likes living in St Albans. He wouldn't live anywhere else!'

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