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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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Well, I was borned a coal miner's daughter

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in a cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler.

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We were poor, but we had love.

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That's the one thing my daddy made sure of

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and he shovelled coal to make a poor man's dollar.

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My daddy, he worked all night in the Van Lear coal mines.

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All day long in the field, a hoeing corn...

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# In the field a hoeing corn

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# Mommy rocked the babies at night

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# And read the Bible by the coal oil light

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# And everything would start all over come break of morn

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# Daddy loved and raised eight kids on a miner's pay

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# Mommy scrubbed our clothes on a washboard every day

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# Why I've seen her fingers bleed

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# To complain, there was no need... #

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Loretta Lynn was 19 the first time she won the big...

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She won big at the local fair.

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Her canned vegetables brought home 17 blue ribbons...

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LAUGHTER

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..and made her Canner of the Year.

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LAUGHTER

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Where is Loretta?

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Now, THAT'S impressive.

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For a girl from Butcher Holler, Kentucky,

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that was fame.

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Fortunately, for all of us,

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she decided to try her hand

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at things other than canning.

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Her first guitar cost 17

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and, with it, this coal miner's daughter

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gave voice to a generation

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singing what no-one wanted to talk about

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and saying what no-one wanted to think about.

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And now, over 50 years after she cut her first record,

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-and canned her first vegetables...

-LAUGHTER

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Loretta Lynn still reigns as the rule-breaking, record-setting

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-queen of country music.

-APPLAUSE

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Oh, heavens.

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I never thought of anything like this when I was a kid.

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Growing up in Butcher Holler,

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that's where you'll stay, you know, you thought.

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We were way back in the hills.

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We were poor.

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We were poor, but we didn't starve - that's the main thing.

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# ..Yeah, I'm proud to be a coal miner's daughter

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# I remember well, the well where I drew water

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# The work we done was hard

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# At night we'd sleep cos we were tired

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# I never thought of ever leaving Butcher Holler

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# Well, a lot of things have changed since way back then

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# And it's so good to be back home again

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# Not much left but the floor

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# Nothing lives here any more

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# Except the memory of a coal miner's daughter. #

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There's something about the Appalachian Mountains,

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the mountains that Loretta grew up in -

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it's like there's something really spiritual about them.

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It's like, so, it...

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They're like her church.

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And now they're like my church.

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That nature that's all around, you know.

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She grew up in that and it's been desecrated

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over the years by

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people who've come in and exploited

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the coal, the timber.

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They've brought down mountains and yet,

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those people that have been taken advantage of for years, for decades,

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maybe even a century,

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have survived by, you know,

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their tight-knit families,

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music is at the core of their beings and...

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despite all of the exploitation

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of those mountains,

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they're beautiful

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and much of it has survived,

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as you see.

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Loretta's still living in it,

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in those...

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Appalachian Mountain chains, and so am I.

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# Beautiful, beautiful brown eyes

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# Beautiful, beautiful brown eyes

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# Beautiful, beautiful brown eyes

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# I'll never love blue eyes again

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# Willie, my darling, I love you

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# I love you with all of my heart

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# Tomorrow we might have been married

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# But the bottle has kept us apart. #

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My daddy could pick up anything and play it.

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Play a tune on anything.

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Mommy could, too.

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All my brothers did.

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You leave there and see other people,

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and they don't play instruments.

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You think... You don't know what to think about it.

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But hill people can all do it.

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They figure it's just part of their life.

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The Grand Ole Opry started on Saturday night.

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Bill Monroe'd start playing

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and Mommy'd hit the floor and start dancing.

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Mommy'd dance and Daddy'd sing, and...

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# Blue moon of Kentucky, keep on shining

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# Shine on the one that's gone... #

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I used to swing on the front porch

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and sing just as loud as I could sing.

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And Daddy came out one day and said,

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"Loretty, will you hush that big mouth?

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"Everybody in this Holler can hear you."

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I said, "Well, Daddy, what difference does it make?

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"Everybody's my cousin anyway."

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# ..The stars shining bright

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# They whispered from high

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# Your love has said goodbye

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# Blue moon of Kentucky, keep on shining... #

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I've never seen this, this is great. What is this?

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You've never seen this?

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-There you are, Sissy.

-There I...

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Coal Miner's Daughter.

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And I bet you're singing Coal Miner's Daughter right there.

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Prob... Yeah, that was the dress.

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Here's Levon Helm,

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this is the one that played my daddy.

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That bothered me so bad, when I... You know,

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I couldn't sit down beside him and talk,

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cos he'd call me Loretty, and that reminded me of Daddy

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so much that it was hard for me to talk to him.

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-"Loretty?"

-Loretty.

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I love this picture.

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Love, love, love, love, love.

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-That's me.

-Cos look at us.

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There's something in our eyes, they're all...

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Captured at one time.

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..alike. We look like a family.

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-Yeah, and that's what you're supposed to have been.

-Yeah!

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Doolittle was a petite man.

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You know, he wasn't a giant guy,

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but he had a giant persona

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and he really has fire inside of him.

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Doolittle was a sweet, funny, darling man -

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but he was also highly excitable

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and he had a...

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You know, you could set him off.

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He had that little... You know that little rascal was in there,

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that smart rascal.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-There's a bit in the book, and in the movie,

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where it's kind of clear you didn't know what was going to happen

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on your wedding night.

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You can say that again.

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There's no telling...

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I'm telling you, it was all this thing ever was.

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No, you don't know.

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How could you know at that age?

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Mommy didn't tell us nothing.

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'What we learned, we learned ourselves.'

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Loretta, you ain't supposed to wear a nightgown over your clothes.

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I'm freezing.

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Well, get on in there and take off everything but your nightgown now.

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My dad's side of the family are the Lynns

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and they are Irish,

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and they are loud and funny, and I...

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They probably talked about it all.

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Go on.

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Go on now.

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The funny thing about my mom,

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she really is, to this day,

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very innocent.

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My grandmother and grandfather,

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on my mom's side of the family,

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they were very quiet,

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really shy people

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and I can see where they didn't talk about things like...

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where babies come from

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or having those kinds of conversations with their children.

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You know, they were dead lucky because she became rich and famous.

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But, nonetheless, it was a real journey

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that had a very inauspicious beginning

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and could have ended in tears, and all sorts of things.

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But they had a mountain to climb.

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Unless you present that mountain,

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then there's no achievement in doing what they did.

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There's a real roughness to the beginning of their life together -

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a kind of violence about it and a threat about it -

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and I don't think you should compromise that,

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because they travelled a great distance to be in love.

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SHE SCREAMS

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It's just a little rough the first time, Loretta, is all.

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Don't worry about that.

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'You know, he'd been to war, he was a soldier

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'and she was this kid, this virgin child,

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'and all this sort of thing.'

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And if you pussyfoot around that, and try to soften that,

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you'll miss the whole joy of the relationship

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and the joy of the love story.

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Baby, it's just a little rough the first time, that's all.

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-Didn't seem too rough on you.

-Well, you better get used to it, darling,

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because that's what a damn marriage is...

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I ain't going to get used to you getting on me

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and sweating like an old pig!

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The movie portrays Dad as being mean to Mama.

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Mama whooped his ass regular.

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I mean, she knocked those front teeth out.

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They'd get in fights out in this front yard

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and she'd turn him flips and everything else out here, you know.

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He'd be drunk.

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I'd stand up and fight him.

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If he smacked me or anything,

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I'd stand up and fight him, just like...

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I'd be fighting another woman, you know.

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Hey, Doolittle, how are you?

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-Good day, isn't it?

-It sure is.

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-How you been doing?

-Been doing a hell of a lot.

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Working too damn hard.

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What about you?

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Hey, Doolittle Lynn.

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Who's that sow wallowin' in your Jeep?

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What did you call me?

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A sow, that's a woman pig!

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THEY LAUGH

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He'd smack me, I'd smack him.

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He'd pull my hair, I pulled his hair.

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That's the way it was...

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..but me and Doo got along good.

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I just moved out of my daddy's house with Doo.

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We went to western Washington.

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# Some morning when you wake up all alone

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# Just come on home to your blue Kentucky girl

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# You left me for the bright lights of the town

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# A country boy set out to see the world

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# Remember when those city lights shine down

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# That big old moon shines on your Kentucky girl. #

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We moved from Butcher Holler, see.

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My oldest sister Betty and Jack was born in Kentucky,

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and me and Cissie, my sister that's 11 months younger than me,

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we was born in Bellingham, Washington.

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And...

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Dad was a mechanic there

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and then he worked on a dairy farm.

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And Mama did the cooking for the help, and Dad did the milking.

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Did 160 cows in the morning from four to eight,

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and four to eight in the afternoon -

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and then, in the daytime, cut hay and stuff.

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Hard on me, you know, I didn't know anybody

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and I never got out of the house

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and he kept me in the house -

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with one baby right after the other.

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So, he come in one night

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and I thought he was going to take me out, you know?

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He said, no, he was going out by himself.

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I had Ernest Ray and Cissie both in my arms.

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Ernest couldn't walk and I had a tiny baby.

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He pulled my hair, pulled one of them pin tails,

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or pin curlers, pulled it out and it hurt my head, so...

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He was drinking,

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so I just set Ernest down,

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I kept Cissie in my arms

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and I went around and meant to hit him in the shoulder

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and I hit him in the mouth and knocked two teeth out.

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I heard teeth hitting the floor and I thought,

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"Oh, my God, I'm dead. I know I'm dead.

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"He's not going to put up with this."

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But, you know, he laughed.

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He went around with two teeth missing for ever

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until we got the money to get him some teeth

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and we did that after I started singing.

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LORETTA LAUGHS He was kind of proud of it, yeah.

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He'd tell them, "My old lady knocked 'em out."

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# Well, I like my lovin' done country style

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# And this little girl would walk a country mile

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# To find her a good ol' slow talkin' country boy

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# I said a country boy

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# I'm about as old-fashioned as I can be

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# So I hope you like what you see

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# If you're lookin' at me

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# You're lookin' at country

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# You don't see no city when you look at me

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# Cos country's all I am

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# I love runnin' bare-footed through the old corn fields

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# And I love that country ham

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# Well, you say I'm made just to fit your plans

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# But does a barnyard shovel fit your hands?

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# If your eyes are on me

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# You're lookin' at country

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# If your eyes are on me

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# You're lookin' at country. #

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CHEERING

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You know, she had four kids and Dad got her an old guitar

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and she learned herself to play bar chords

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and there's a little old bar that Dad used to go to,

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there in Blaine, Washington,

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and Dad told her, says,

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"You're a better singer than them girls and guys

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"that's getting up there and singing and stuff."

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And Mama, "I ain't going to that bar," and stuff.

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The band was up playing

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and Doo dragged me out on stage and said,

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"I want you to let this girl sing.

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"Next to Kitty Wells, she's the best singer in the country."

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And they said, "Well, we'll listen to her later on."

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Well, Doo said, "Well, what day?"

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And they said they had to get busy to tell him, you know,

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exactly when they were going to do that.

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And Doo said, "I'm going to hold you to it."

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And I sang...

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You Are My Sunshine.

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I didn't have a lot of songs

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because I didn't know them a bunch, you know.

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And they said, "Saturday night,

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"bring her in and we'll put her in the band."

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So, that's the way it started.

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And I got my job playing with the band.

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I was making 12 on Saturday night

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and I thought, "I'm going to get rich."

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Well, you know, I started trying to write before I ever sang

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and I never could get it together, so I just quit.

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And then when I started singing, why, I looked at the song book

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and thought, "Well, heck, this is easy."

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So, I threw the song book down and wrote my own songs.

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When I was a kid, she worked in the strawberry fields and stuff.

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She'd take me and Cis and put us down,

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and she'd take an old paper sack and she'd be picking strawberries,

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a nickel a crate,

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and she's stacking strawberries up, and she'd be writing...

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What was her first song?

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-Honky Tonk Girl.

-Honky Tonk Girl.

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She wrote it in the strawberry field, just on a paper sack.

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# Ever since you left me

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# I've done nothing but wrong

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# Many nights I've laid awake and cried

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# We once were happy

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# My heart was in a whirl

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# But now I'm a honky tonk girl

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# So turn that jukebox way up high

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# And fill my glass up while I cry

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# I've lost everything in this world

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# And now I'm a honky tonk girl. #

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# I just can't make a right with all of my wrongs

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# Every evening of my life seems so long

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# I'm sorry and ashamed for all these things you see... #

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I went to every radio station one way,

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went back to Washington another way

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and, that way, I swept one side of the country and the other side.

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But I'd go in the radio station,

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I'd sit there until they played my record.

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Sometimes I had to sit there three or four hours.

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# ..To lose my memory of him

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# I've lost everything in this world

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# And now I'm a honky tonk girl. #

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This was a girl singer coming into town...

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..singing with this voice

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like she came from the state of Kentucky,

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accent - state of Kentucky,

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with this Bakersfield, West Coast beat,

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and so when you... When it came on the radio, you know,

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there's that music - the Beatles did it -

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that you just take the dial and you just turn it up

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just that tad bit and you go,

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"Oh, wow, this is something different, I've got to hear it."

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I was down there at Tree Publishing Company, where I was writing songs,

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and the Wilburn brothers had an office right across the hall.

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And now... Whether this was the day she met the Wilburn brothers

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or whatever, I really don't know,

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but she and her husband were standing in the atrium there,

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in this building,

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and she had on this little homemade-looking cowgirl outfit.

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Totally out of place.

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She had the hat kind of back,

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had the little rope or string,

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or strap, or whatever, under and had the hat back behind her like that,

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and this little cowgirl dress on.

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Best as I remember, she had on boots.

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I think she had on boots.

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And they were just kind of standing there.

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This was a little white outfit with maybe some red in it,

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and the people coming in and out of the publishing company,

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where I was... "Who is that out there?"

0:19:330:19:35

"What is that girl...?"

0:19:350:19:36

"Does she think this is a rodeo?"

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"What...? What's going on here?"

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You know.

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Doyle and Teddy Wilburn,

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they were helping me.

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They'd just had them a big hit record.

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Uh-oh, Trouble's Back In Town.

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# Uh-oh, trouble's back in town... #

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Hello there, and welcome to another fun-filled half hour

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of country music on the Wilburn Brothers Show.

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So, we all fell in love with each other and that's...

0:20:010:20:05

We travelled the country for a long time.

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# Somewhere between

0:20:090:20:13

# Your heart and mine

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# There's a window

0:20:170:20:19

# That I can't see through

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# And there's a wall so high

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# It reaches the sky

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# Somewhere between me and you. #

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You know, we didn't run into each other immediately but,

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from what I've heard since then,

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we hit town about the same time.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-What was it like then?

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Well, for a guy like me, you know,

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a songwriter from Texas...

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..it was a challenge but it was also the place

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that I had always been told is where to go

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if you've got a song, you know -

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and Nashville was the place to get it recorded.

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So, you know, I had some successes through the years

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and so did Loretta.

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She's... She's done wonderful.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-When did you first meet her?

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Yeah, we ran into each other at the Opry, you know,

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a couple of times and, you know,

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got to say hello and know each other.

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'Becoming a top Opry star wasn't easy.

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'There was plenty of competition and it took a lot of hard work

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'and determination, in addition to talent.

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'Ernest Tubb remembers his own climb to the top

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'and the people who helped him along the way.'

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Well, hi there, and welcome to the Ernest Tubb Record Shop.

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I've talked with many country music fans right here

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over this counter, throughout the past 20 years

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that we have had the Ernest Tubb Music Shop, and many of them...

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'I went and begged Ernest Tubb to put me on, and he did.

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He listened to my record and he said, "That little girl can sing,"

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and he put me on the Record Shop.

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I'm sure that he probably helped me

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get on the Grand Ole Opry, too.

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# I just can't make a right

0:22:050:22:07

# With all of my wrongs

0:22:070:22:10

# Every evening of my life seems so long

0:22:100:22:15

# I'm sorry and ashamed

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# For all these things you see

0:22:200:22:23

# But losing him has made a fool of me. #

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Remember when we didn't have any...

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-This is the first place I ever sung, you know?

-Yes, yeah.

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Your albums are all up on the top row.

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I put them up as numerical order as they came out.

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-Yeah.

-Right.

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I don't know if you remember this or not, but...

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you would be doing the hosting at Midnite Jamboree

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and they'd be hollering at the back of the store, "We can't see her!"

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-I know it.

-I'd take those Coke crates up,

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you pulled your shoes off and did the Midnite Jamboree that way.

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-That's right.

-You remember that?

-Yeah, I do.

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This is where it started, right here at the Ernest Tubb Record Shop.

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I got up here and played my guitar and sung Honky Tonk Girl

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-and I sung I Fall to Pieces for Patsy.

-Mm-hmm.

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# You want me to act

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# Like we've never kissed

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# You want me to forget

0:23:120:23:16

# Pretend we've never met

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# And I've tried

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# Lord, I've tried

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# But I haven't yet

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# You walk by and I... #

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And I sung I Fall to Pieces and said,

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"I'm going to dedicate this to Patsy, she's in the hospital."

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And that's how...

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And then I met her.

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She sent Charlie to get me to bring me to the hospital.

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I didn't know who Loretta was and she said,

0:23:440:23:46

"Go down and find this girl and tell her I want to see her."

0:23:460:23:49

And so I had to go down and go, "Who's Loretta Lynn?"

0:23:490:23:51

You know, I didn't know who she was.

0:23:510:23:54

But I went down there and found her and told her and...

0:23:540:23:56

..she says she would come out the next day.

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Well, I told her Patsy wanted to see her,

0:24:000:24:02

so she grabbed me and hugged me around the neck.

0:24:020:24:04

So, they came out to the hospital the next day

0:24:040:24:07

and visited with Patsy and then we stayed friends all after that.

0:24:070:24:11

Patsy helped her with her stage presence and then...

0:24:110:24:15

..how to act on stage and be a little more forward.

0:24:170:24:19

Loretta was kind of bashful and laid back.

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She just gave me a lot of clothes.

0:24:220:24:24

That might have been what she was trying to tell me, "Dress better."

0:24:240:24:27

But I wore a pair of panties that she gave me for four years

0:24:270:24:30

and I don't know how long she had them

0:24:300:24:32

but I never did wear these panties out, I finally just kept them.

0:24:320:24:36

There ain't no way to wear them out.

0:24:360:24:39

-Hello. How are you, Tommy?

-She asked me a few minutes ago, says,

0:24:390:24:41

"Reckon I'll ever get over being nervous on these things?"

0:24:410:24:44

Loretta, tell us a little something about yourself, if you will.

0:24:440:24:47

Where were you performing before you came to the Opry?

0:24:470:24:49

I had a little band of my own up in the state of Washington.

0:24:490:24:52

A little place called Blaine, Washington.

0:24:520:24:54

And we played there six nights a week,

0:24:540:24:57

and my brother played lead guitar and,

0:24:570:25:00

about six months ago, we moved back here.

0:25:000:25:03

-Well, we're awful tickled pink to have you with us.

-Thank you.

0:25:030:25:05

We know the folks out there watching are awful glad to have you, too,

0:25:050:25:08

and we're looking forward to hearing you do us a number.

0:25:080:25:11

What's going to be the first number you'll do?

0:25:110:25:13

I think I'll do one called The Girl That I Am Now.

0:25:130:25:15

This is on the back of the record I had out called

0:25:150:25:17

I Walked Away From The Wreck.

0:25:170:25:19

All right. Loretta Lynn!

0:25:190:25:23

# Mhm-mhm-mhm

0:25:270:25:33

# Oh, could he love the girl that I am now? #

0:25:330:25:40

When I was blessed to take over

0:25:410:25:45

and build her new museum for her...

0:25:450:25:49

I was amazed that she had Patsy Cline's underwear

0:25:490:25:52

on display in her previous one-room museum.

0:25:520:25:56

And...

0:25:560:25:58

..she would probably have me put them out now.

0:25:590:26:02

As you can see, Loretta Lynn keeps everything.

0:26:020:26:05

She's a hoarder before they even had a television show about it, so...

0:26:050:26:09

You know, she just grew up in Butcher Holler

0:26:090:26:12

and so you don't get rid of things

0:26:120:26:14

because you didn't have any.

0:26:140:26:16

But thank God she kept it all and,

0:26:160:26:19

yes, those famous panties are in here,

0:26:190:26:22

but they're just not on display.

0:26:220:26:24

Patsy Cline is the one that got

0:26:250:26:28

Loretta into wearing the long gowns.

0:26:280:26:30

Patsy was the inspiration.

0:26:300:26:32

Owen Bradley recorded me

0:26:370:26:39

and he's one of the greatest producers in Nashville, Tennessee.

0:26:390:26:43

He did Kitty Wells,

0:26:430:26:45

he'd done Patsy Cline...

0:26:450:26:46

Oh, yeah, him and Patsy were big buddies.

0:26:460:26:49

When I come to Nashville, they were big buddies.

0:26:490:26:52

# And now I'm a honky tonk girl. #

0:26:560:26:59

APPLAUSE

0:27:020:27:04

Hey, y'all. My name is Tayla Lynn and we're...

0:27:060:27:09

-CHEERING

-Woo!

0:27:100:27:11

..so excited to be here, finally playing at Tootsie's.

0:27:110:27:15

My grandmother played across the alleyway there for a long time,

0:27:150:27:18

Ms Loretta Lynn.

0:27:180:27:20

CHEERING

0:27:200:27:23

So, my dad and aunts,

0:27:230:27:24

and all of them, grew up in here.

0:27:240:27:26

That says a lot about our family.

0:27:260:27:28

We're going to do some of her songs.

0:27:280:27:31

We're going to start off with

0:27:310:27:32

You Ain't Woman Enough To Take My Man.

0:27:320:27:34

# You come to tell me something

0:27:340:27:37

# You say I ought to know

0:27:370:27:41

# That he don't love me any more and I have to let him go

0:27:410:27:46

# You say you're going to take him

0:27:460:27:49

# Oh, but I don't think you can

0:27:490:27:53

MUFFLED: # Cos you ain't woman enough to take my man. #

0:27:530:27:55

Most would-be stars arrive in Nashville, long on ambition

0:27:550:28:00

and short on knowledge of the music business.

0:28:000:28:02

So, many make their first stop,

0:28:020:28:05

a well-known country music tavern,

0:28:050:28:07

Tootsie's Orchid Lounge.

0:28:070:28:09

Here,

0:28:090:28:10

located near the Opry house,

0:28:100:28:12

Tootsie's has been a mixing place

0:28:120:28:14

for songwriters, musicians

0:28:140:28:17

and fans for more than ten years.

0:28:170:28:20

I sang at the Grand Ole Opry,

0:28:200:28:22

which was right next door to Tootsie's

0:28:220:28:26

and right behind the Ryman Auditorium.

0:28:260:28:28

Everybody would come into Tootsie's after the show

0:28:280:28:30

or between shows or whatever and sit around, listen to the jukebox

0:28:300:28:34

and drink a beer and listen to country music.

0:28:340:28:38

But that's where I met Charlie Dick,

0:28:380:28:41

who was the husband of Patsy Cline,

0:28:410:28:44

and I had just written a song called Crazy

0:28:440:28:47

and he wanted Patsy to hear it.

0:28:470:28:49

We were in Tootsie's one night and he said

0:28:490:28:51

"Let's go let Patsy hear this song."

0:28:510:28:53

I said, "No, no. It's midnight,

0:28:530:28:54

it's late and we're drinking."

0:28:540:28:56

He said, "Come on."

0:28:560:28:57

But Patsy made me get out of the car and come in,

0:28:570:29:01

and she recorded the song the next week.

0:29:010:29:03

The first time I can remember...

0:29:070:29:10

being at Tootsie's,

0:29:100:29:12

I was probably around four -

0:29:120:29:16

four or five years old.

0:29:160:29:17

I remember coming here...

0:29:170:29:20

..with my twin sister, Peggy -

0:29:210:29:23

and my dad, he would...

0:29:230:29:25

He would walk us over and he would set us up on the bar,

0:29:250:29:28

one on each side,

0:29:280:29:29

and Ms Tootsie

0:29:290:29:31

would hand us a piece of gum apiece.

0:29:310:29:34

And we would sit here with Dentyne, that was the gum,

0:29:340:29:38

each of us would have a piece of gum

0:29:380:29:40

while my dad would sit here and he would talk.

0:29:400:29:43

My dad would do a lot of drinking here at Tootsie's.

0:29:430:29:46

# I'm in the way

0:29:460:29:48

# For you to get to him

0:29:480:29:50

# I'd have to move over

0:29:500:29:52

# And I'm gonna stand right here. #

0:29:520:29:54

In 1986, my twin sister, Peggy and I,

0:29:540:29:57

we decided we wanted to give it a shot at a singing career, as well.

0:29:570:30:02

And we were the house band here at Tootsie's every Thursday night,

0:30:020:30:05

and we were called the Honkin' Billies.

0:30:050:30:07

They say if the Ryman Auditorium is the Mother Church of Country Music,

0:30:070:30:11

then Tootsie's has to be the Mother Honky Tonk of all times.

0:30:110:30:16

We always would laugh and say,

0:30:160:30:17

"Mom would do the Opry on Saturday nights

0:30:170:30:20

"and Dad would come over and play Tootsie's on Saturday night."

0:30:200:30:23

But my dad didn't sing.

0:30:230:30:25

His job was to inspire the songs

0:30:250:30:28

that she would sing and write -

0:30:280:30:30

and those bottles would have a...

0:30:300:30:33

A lot to do with them.

0:30:330:30:36

# And don't come home a-drinking with loving on your mind. #

0:30:360:30:41

My mom,

0:30:420:30:44

my aunt Crystal Gayle,

0:30:440:30:46

my aunt Peggy Sue,

0:30:460:30:48

my uncle Jay Lee...

0:30:480:30:50

Just in that family of eight children,

0:30:500:30:52

four of them had

0:30:520:30:54

songs on the charts and record deals.

0:30:540:30:57

In my mom's family,

0:30:570:30:58

my brother Ernest Ray,

0:30:580:31:00

my sister Cissie,

0:31:000:31:02

Peggy and I all had record deals.

0:31:020:31:05

-INTERVIEWER:

-And what about your grandchildren?

0:31:050:31:07

We talked to Emmy Rose yesterday.

0:31:070:31:09

Emmy is my angel.

0:31:090:31:11

She... She's...

0:31:110:31:13

If she wants to, she can be anything she wants to be

0:31:130:31:17

cos she's a great singer

0:31:170:31:19

and she writes like she's 40 years old,

0:31:190:31:21

and has been since she's ten years old.

0:31:210:31:23

-INTERVIEWER:

-The coal miner is Loretta's dad...

-Mm-hmm.

0:31:230:31:26

-..so she's the coal miner's daughter...

-Mm-hmm.

0:31:260:31:29

..so you're the coal miner's daughter's daughter's daughter.

0:31:290:31:32

That's actually in my song.

0:31:320:31:34

-Oh, do it!

-It's like...

0:31:340:31:35

Oh, you mean to do my song? The whole song?

0:31:350:31:37

-No, do the bit with...

-Oh, it's like...

0:31:370:31:39

# From the hands of a girl from Butcher Holler

0:31:390:31:43

# To the hands of a coal miner's great-granddaughter. #

0:31:430:31:49

See? It's granddaughter,

0:31:500:31:52

great-granddaughter.

0:31:520:31:53

SHE PLAYS "I GOT STRIPES"

0:31:540:31:58

All right there, Johnny Cash.

0:31:580:32:01

# You've come to tell me something

0:32:050:32:07

# You say I ought to know

0:32:070:32:09

# That he don't love me any more and I'll have to let him go

0:32:100:32:15

# You say you going to take him

0:32:170:32:19

# Oh, but I don't think you can

0:32:190:32:22

# Cos you ain't woman enough to take my man. #

0:32:220:32:26

# Women like you they're a dime a dozen

0:32:280:32:30

# You can buy 'em anywhere

0:32:300:32:33

# For you to get to him I'd have to move over

0:32:330:32:35

# And I'm gonna stand right here

0:32:350:32:38

# It'll be over my dead body

0:32:380:32:40

# So get out while you can

0:32:400:32:43

# Cos you ain't woman enough to take my man. #

0:32:430:32:47

Don't Come Home A-Drinkin' With Lovin' On Your Mind -

0:32:470:32:50

Mama wrote that about Dad.

0:32:500:32:51

You Ain't Woman Enough To Take My Man, Your Squaw Is On The Warpath -

0:32:510:32:54

All them number-one songs

0:32:540:32:56

that Mama wrote was about Dad.

0:32:560:32:58

And Mama stayed mad at him all the time,

0:32:580:33:00

I said, "I don't know why you stay mad at him,

0:33:000:33:03

"he made us millions of dollars."

0:33:030:33:04

I said, "If it wasn't for him,

0:33:040:33:06

"you wouldn't of ever wrote them damn songs."

0:33:060:33:08

I wrote every song that I've ever wrote about him.

0:33:080:33:11

No, he gave me a lot of opportunities.

0:33:110:33:13

My mom and dad had many big fights

0:33:130:33:17

that have been gone down on record through songs and stuff,

0:33:170:33:20

but this room was a huge problem

0:33:200:33:24

because my mom saw this whole south-western

0:33:240:33:26

kind of Indian art and the Native American look,

0:33:260:33:30

and my dad wanted that masculine den

0:33:300:33:32

with his cowboy things and his guns.

0:33:320:33:35

They ended up compromising, but, I don't know,

0:33:350:33:38

I guess probably the Native Americans won in this room.

0:33:380:33:42

Mm-hm. Mommy had Cherokee, her daddy was full-blooded Cherokee.

0:33:430:33:47

And Grandpa... I told Mommy one day, I said,

0:33:470:33:49

"I don't like Grandpa and Grandpa don't like me."

0:33:490:33:52

She said, "Why?"

0:33:520:33:53

I said "I'll sit down in the chair,

0:33:530:33:55

"when he sits in a chair and reads, I'll sit right down under him

0:33:550:33:58

"and I keep talking about him and all he'll do is 'hmm', grunt."

0:33:580:34:01

And I said, "That's all Grandpa does,"

0:34:010:34:04

and Mommy said, "Well, honey, he's Cherokee,

0:34:040:34:06

"don't pay any attention to that, he thinks he's talking to you."

0:34:060:34:11

# Well, your pet name for me is Squaw

0:34:110:34:13

# When you come home a-drinkin' and can barely crawl

0:34:130:34:16

# And all that lovin' on me won't make things right

0:34:160:34:19

# Well, you're leavin' me at home to keep the teepee clean

0:34:210:34:23

# A-six papooses to break and wean

0:34:230:34:26

# Well, your squaw is on the warpath tonight

0:34:260:34:31

# Well, I found out, a-big brave chief

0:34:310:34:34

# The game you were huntin' for ain't beef

0:34:340:34:37

# Get offa my huntin' grounds and get outta my sight

0:34:370:34:42

# This-a war dance I'm doin' means I'm fightin' mad

0:34:420:34:44

# You don't need no more of what you've already had

0:34:440:34:47

# Your squaw is on the warpath tonight. #

0:34:470:34:50

A lot of those songs, from back then,

0:34:530:34:57

they were quintessential country songs,

0:34:570:34:59

in that they were about...

0:34:590:35:01

..hard-living men and women who kept the home fires burning and...

0:35:030:35:08

weren't going to put up with no cheating and you know, that was....

0:35:080:35:12

I'm a little sad that we're so...

0:35:120:35:14

We're so kind of...

0:35:140:35:17

..cosmopolitan now

0:35:190:35:20

that we don't write about

0:35:200:35:22

relationships in that way.

0:35:220:35:24

But that was the nuts and bolts of country -

0:35:240:35:29

drinking songs and cheating songs...

0:35:290:35:32

and she was a spitfire.

0:35:320:35:34

# Who's the sorry so and so

0:35:360:35:38

# Responsible for what I'm goin' through?

0:35:380:35:42

# It's lyin', cheatin'

0:35:420:35:43

# Woman-chasin'

0:35:430:35:44

# Honky-tonkin'

0:35:440:35:46

# Whiskey-drinkin' you

0:35:460:35:48

# It's lyin', cheatin'

0:35:480:35:50

# Woman-chasin'

0:35:500:35:51

# Honky-tonkin'

0:35:510:35:53

# Whiskey-drinkin' you. #

0:35:530:35:55

CHEERING

0:35:580:36:00

If you write about what's happening,

0:36:000:36:02

it don't hurt as bad,

0:36:020:36:04

it don't bother you as much.

0:36:040:36:06

Or that's how it does me.

0:36:060:36:08

I don't know how anybody else does it but that's the way I do it.

0:36:080:36:11

I need to write.

0:36:130:36:15

A good story - we couldn't eat till Dad come home,

0:36:150:36:18

and we had to be in bed at nine o'clock on a school night so...

0:36:180:36:21

There wasn't microwaves and stuff back then.

0:36:230:36:26

Seven o'clock, no Dad.

0:36:270:36:28

Eight o'clock, no Dad.

0:36:280:36:30

Mama kept putting the food back in.

0:36:300:36:32

Finally, nine o'clock he comes in just shit-faced.

0:36:320:36:36

Mama always had a big ol' yellow bean bowl, you know,

0:36:360:36:38

beans and ham hock, then she'd cook chicken and stuff.

0:36:380:36:41

Well, did y'all go in the big house?

0:36:410:36:44

All right, where the old kitchen is in there,

0:36:440:36:46

that big table and them big sliding windows and doors.

0:36:460:36:49

He comes in and Mama gets all us up.

0:36:490:36:51

Boy, she's running around there

0:36:510:36:53

waiting on all the kids and the food went one way and come around -

0:36:530:36:56

what you put on your plate, you had to eat it.

0:36:560:36:58

Mama made Dad's plate and, as quick as she made it,

0:36:580:37:00

he just fell over in it.

0:37:000:37:03

She was so mad cos she'd been cooking it.

0:37:030:37:06

She took that bowl of hot beans, just poured it on his head.

0:37:060:37:09

Well, we all scattered cos we know the shit hit the fan.

0:37:090:37:12

He don't even wake up.

0:37:120:37:14

So, the girls go on upstairs and go to bed,

0:37:140:37:17

and me and Jack, we're over by the fireplace waiting.

0:37:170:37:20

And about 11, 11.30, here, he comes to.

0:37:200:37:23

That bowl of beans has done dried on his head,

0:37:230:37:25

they're in his ears, his eyeballs.

0:37:250:37:27

He took that bowl and throwed it through that double-sliding window.

0:37:270:37:31

Busted it all out, took a chair and throwed it through the other window

0:37:310:37:34

and he was wrestling that big, old table

0:37:340:37:36

and he couldn't get her done, you know.

0:37:360:37:38

He couldn't get it lifted up to get it gone.

0:37:380:37:40

And we're...! He's chasing us around the fireplace,

0:37:400:37:43

and them beans and stuff's all in his ears and head.

0:37:430:37:46

# Well, I'm at home a-working And a-slaving this way

0:37:500:37:52

# You're out a-misbehaving

0:37:520:37:54

# Spending all of your pay

0:37:540:37:56

# On wine, women and song... #

0:37:560:38:01

She has never been afraid to speak her mind.

0:38:010:38:04

She's... You know, she...

0:38:040:38:07

Say what you will, but she's a feminist.

0:38:070:38:09

She was when...

0:38:090:38:12

And she made it OK for other women to go, "Yeah!"

0:38:120:38:19

I don't know, but that's, you know, that's...

0:38:200:38:23

That's the way movements start.

0:38:230:38:24

# You wined me and dined me

0:38:250:38:28

# When I was your girl

0:38:280:38:30

# Promised if I'd be your wife

0:38:310:38:34

# You'd show me the world

0:38:340:38:36

# All I've seen of this old world is a bed and a doctor bill

0:38:360:38:42

# I'm tearin' down your brooder house

0:38:420:38:45

# Cos now I've got the pill

0:38:450:38:49

# This old maternity dress I've got

0:38:490:38:52

# Is goin' in the garbage

0:38:520:38:55

# The clothes I'm wearin' from now on

0:38:550:38:57

# Won't take up so much yardage

0:38:570:39:01

# Mini skirts, hot pants

0:39:020:39:04

# And a few little fancy frills

0:39:040:39:07

# Yeah, I'm makin' up for all those years

0:39:070:39:10

# Since I've got the pill. #

0:39:100:39:13

The Pill was banned, but they started...

0:39:130:39:16

When it hit the charts, they had to take it out of being banned

0:39:160:39:19

and play it, you know.

0:39:190:39:21

Everybody had to play it when it was on the charts.

0:39:210:39:24

She's got her own style of writing

0:39:240:39:27

because she writes backwards.

0:39:270:39:28

She sort of writes with a double chorus.

0:39:280:39:30

There's not just one chorus...

0:39:300:39:34

per se, when you listen to her songs, there's like two choruses.

0:39:340:39:37

And she starts sort off with the second one,

0:39:370:39:39

and then finishes, comes back and writes the first part of the chorus

0:39:390:39:42

and then goes back and starts writing the verses

0:39:420:39:44

and the story to get to it.

0:39:440:39:45

Let's say Fist City for example.

0:39:450:39:47

The beginning of that chorus starts off,

0:39:470:39:49

# If you don't want to go to Fist City

0:39:490:39:51

# You better detour around my town. #

0:39:510:39:53

Now is this a verse or is this a chorus?

0:39:530:39:55

Nobody writes like this.

0:39:550:39:57

# Cos I'll grab you by the hair o' the head,

0:39:570:39:59

# And I'll pick you off of the ground. #

0:39:590:40:01

That's the first part of the chorus, and then it's...

0:40:010:40:03

# I ain't saying my baby's a saint, cos he ain't.... #

0:40:030:40:05

I mean, that's just a weird way of writing

0:40:050:40:07

that you don't see other people do.

0:40:070:40:09

To me, she started with the second part, and worked back around or...

0:40:090:40:13

And interchanged those,

0:40:130:40:14

but just to have that two existing parts right there

0:40:140:40:18

that have nothing to do with the verses of the song,

0:40:180:40:20

that's really complicated to do.

0:40:200:40:22

You couldn't really sit down and do that.

0:40:220:40:24

A really trained professional songwriter,

0:40:240:40:26

it'd be very hard for them to pull off, but it's just natural to her.

0:40:260:40:29

# Oh, you've been makin' your brags around town

0:40:290:40:31

# That you've been a lovin' my man

0:40:310:40:33

# But the man I love, when he picks up trash

0:40:330:40:36

# He puts it in a garbage can

0:40:360:40:39

# That's what you look like to me

0:40:390:40:41

# And what I see's a pity

0:40:410:40:44

# You better close your face and stay outta my way

0:40:440:40:47

# If you don't wanna go to Fist City. #

0:40:470:40:49

Well, Fist City, I wrote about an old gal

0:40:500:40:52

that was trying to take Doo away from me.

0:40:520:40:55

"You've been making your brags around town

0:40:550:40:57

"that you've been loving my man.

0:40:570:40:59

"The man I love, when he picks up trash,

0:40:590:41:01

"he puts it in a garbage can."

0:41:010:41:02

I didn't cover her one bit that was good.

0:41:020:41:05

Everything I wrote about her was bad.

0:41:050:41:08

# If you don't wanna go to Fist City

0:41:080:41:10

# You better detour around my town

0:41:100:41:13

# Cos I'll grab you by the hair o' the head

0:41:130:41:16

# And I'll lift you off of the ground

0:41:160:41:20

# I'm not a sayin' my baby's a saint cos he ain't

0:41:200:41:23

# And that he won't cat around with a kitty

0:41:230:41:26

# I'm here to tell you, gal, to lay off my man

0:41:260:41:28

# If you don't wanna go to Fist City. #

0:41:280:41:31

-INTERVIEWER:

-There's a lot of bad marriages,

0:41:310:41:33

bad behaviour, all that stuff, in the singing,

0:41:330:41:36

and yet, it's, like, really fun with the country music.

0:41:360:41:39

Have you ever been divorced?

0:41:400:41:42

It's no fun. No fun.

0:41:430:41:45

Yeah, it's hard to find anything funny

0:41:460:41:48

and entertaining about it,

0:41:480:41:50

but country music seems to.

0:41:500:41:52

You know, we all have gone through, you know...

0:41:530:41:56

difficult things and times, and if you can look back on it

0:41:560:41:59

and laugh about it, joke about it,

0:41:590:42:02

you're better off, I think.

0:42:020:42:05

You ever hear of a guy named Seneca?

0:42:050:42:06

Senaca? Seneca?

0:42:060:42:09

He said that,

0:42:090:42:11

"You should look upon death and comedy

0:42:110:42:13

"with the same countenance",

0:42:130:42:15

which makes a lot of sense.

0:42:150:42:18

# Well, I look out the window and what do I see?

0:42:180:42:21

# The breeze is a blowin' the leaves from the trees

0:42:210:42:24

# Everything is free

0:42:240:42:26

# Everything but me

0:42:270:42:30

# I'm gonna take this chain from around my finger

0:42:310:42:35

# And throw it just as far as I can sling her

0:42:350:42:39

# Cos I wanna be free. #

0:42:390:42:42

I was on the road like Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

0:42:420:42:45

I'd get home probably Monday...

0:42:450:42:47

sometime and I'd spend Tuesday, Wednesday here

0:42:470:42:51

and get ready to leave out on Thursday.

0:42:510:42:54

Sometimes, if I worked clubs,

0:42:540:42:56

I did two to three shows a night.

0:42:560:42:58

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday... I did it all week long.

0:42:580:43:01

She was working quite a few days back then.

0:43:040:43:07

We was on the road quite a bit.

0:43:070:43:09

Was doing 500, 600, 700 hundred miles every night,

0:43:090:43:12

so we travelled all night.

0:43:120:43:14

I mean, she was doing about 200 concerts a year.

0:43:140:43:17

We was all over the Midwest.

0:43:170:43:19

I think we went to California that first year I was with her.

0:43:190:43:22

We went all... We went from border to border, coast to coast,

0:43:220:43:26

Canada and everything.

0:43:260:43:27

20-something years.

0:43:270:43:29

Covered some miles.

0:43:290:43:31

Probably two to eight million maybe.

0:43:310:43:33

She toured, probably,

0:43:330:43:36

over 200 days a year

0:43:360:43:38

and there would be months...

0:43:380:43:40

..that we didn't get to see her.

0:43:410:43:43

I mean, can you imagine?

0:43:430:43:44

I have to... You know,

0:43:440:43:46

I have five kids

0:43:460:43:48

and it wasn't until I became a mother,

0:43:480:43:51

that I realised...

0:43:510:43:52

..what a sacrifice my mom made...

0:43:560:43:58

..to make life better for us, you know?

0:44:000:44:03

It was a big sacrifice for a woman.

0:44:030:44:05

It was just always that way.

0:44:060:44:08

One of the startling things is that you...

0:44:100:44:13

As a child, you don't even know, you know.

0:44:130:44:16

You don't realise, this is the way it is.

0:44:160:44:18

We were just around Dad so much

0:44:180:44:19

because Mom would be gone for a month, maybe a month and a half.

0:44:190:44:23

And you know, children change and...

0:44:230:44:25

Well, Mom would call us Twin,

0:44:250:44:27

and Mom swears that that's not true,

0:44:270:44:30

but Mom would have to have you turn around and look at you

0:44:300:44:33

and then she could tell you apart.

0:44:330:44:35

But when you're running to the bus or whatever, she would call us Twin.

0:44:350:44:38

So, we had no name.

0:44:380:44:40

"Come here, Twin."

0:44:400:44:41

And, oh,

0:44:410:44:43

that would just infuriate

0:44:430:44:45

my sister and I, you know.

0:44:450:44:46

"We ain't a twin. We ain't twins."

0:44:460:44:49

And Dad would always cover for us

0:44:490:44:51

cos me and Patsy would smart off going, you know,

0:44:510:44:53

"Don't call us twin," kind of thing.

0:44:530:44:55

And Dad would like, "Y'all don't talk to your mother like that."

0:44:550:44:59

Oh, yes, when the babies were little, it really tore me up,

0:45:010:45:05

but what could I do?

0:45:050:45:06

I had to make a living, had to feed them, you know.

0:45:060:45:10

And we bought this place and we had to pay for it -

0:45:100:45:12

so I wasn't going to pay for it by not working.

0:45:120:45:15

# Like so many other hearts

0:45:160:45:19

# Mine wanted to be free

0:45:210:45:24

# I've been out here every day

0:45:250:45:28

# Since you've been away from me

0:45:290:45:31

# My reflection in the mirror

0:45:330:45:37

# It's such a hurtful sight

0:45:370:45:40

# Oh, I miss being Mrs tonight. #

0:45:400:45:45

I started on the road with Mom when I was eight.

0:45:480:45:51

I did my first album with Mom when I was seven.

0:45:510:45:54

It was called...

0:45:540:45:56

When I Hear My Children Pray.

0:45:560:45:57

It was a gospel album.

0:45:570:45:59

I did every album with Mom.

0:45:590:46:01

# Somehow I can be useful

0:46:010:46:04

# So put me to the test

0:46:040:46:09

# I know I can't do very much

0:46:090:46:13

# But, Lord, I'll do my best. #

0:46:130:46:15

When I was 15,

0:46:160:46:18

when I was a freshman in school,

0:46:180:46:21

I was going on the summertime with her

0:46:210:46:23

and I just quit school and started all the time.

0:46:230:46:26

I knew how to count money

0:46:270:46:29

so, hell, what was there left?

0:46:290:46:30

You know? I didn't care nothing about algebra and all that stuff.

0:46:300:46:34

Do you ever use algebra?

0:46:340:46:37

Yes, proudly, I watched and listened

0:46:370:46:40

To all he tried to say

0:46:400:46:42

And it makes my heart just burst with pride

0:46:420:46:47

When I hear my children pray...

0:46:470:46:49

# But, Lord, I'll do my best. #

0:46:490:46:53

Oh, I'll die when Mama dies.

0:46:570:46:58

We done talked about it,

0:46:580:47:00

they're going to have to bury us in the same hole,

0:47:000:47:02

cos we been together ever since I was born, you know,

0:47:020:47:05

we've always been together.

0:47:050:47:06

Something happens to her, they might as well bury me, too.

0:47:060:47:09

One year, Mom came home for a couple of weeks.

0:47:090:47:13

In this kitchen...

0:47:130:47:14

They'd just built and added on this kitchen

0:47:140:47:18

and my mom was going to make dinner,

0:47:180:47:20

which Patsy and I had never really seen her cook like this.

0:47:200:47:25

So, she was going through the cabinets

0:47:250:47:27

and she's looking for a pot,

0:47:270:47:28

something to cook in,

0:47:280:47:30

and a certain one,

0:47:300:47:31

and she was all...

0:47:310:47:33

All the drawers were pulled out here

0:47:330:47:36

and she sits down in the middle of the floor and she said,

0:47:360:47:41

"This is not my house. I don't live here.

0:47:410:47:44

"I don't even know where my pots and pans are."

0:47:440:47:46

And Patsy and I were so struck by this

0:47:460:47:51

that we, you know...

0:47:510:47:52

We've got every drawer open, everything going,

0:47:520:47:54

"We'll find it! We'll find it!"

0:47:540:47:57

But looking back, that was the moment

0:47:570:48:00

that she realised that...

0:48:000:48:02

her home's on wheels.

0:48:020:48:04

# I miss being Mrs tonight

0:48:040:48:08

# Oh, I miss being Mrs tonight. #

0:48:110:48:16

But, in five minutes, Mom can get up off that floor

0:48:180:48:22

and start all over again.

0:48:220:48:24

She's very good at shaking it off and, in this business,

0:48:240:48:28

you have to have that sort of...

0:48:280:48:30

that sort of backbone to you.

0:48:300:48:32

A lot of years through the '70s and '80s, we was gone 300 days a year.

0:48:360:48:41

When Coal Miner's Daughter come out,

0:48:410:48:42

we was gone for five years in a row - I mean, we was gone.

0:48:420:48:46

We was in Vegas all the time and stuff, we was never home,

0:48:460:48:50

and, you know, that's the key to marriage, right there.

0:48:500:48:53

-INTERVIEWER:

-Was that hard on you?

0:48:530:48:55

No.

0:48:550:48:56

-INTERVIEWER:

-You liked the road.

-Well, yeah.

0:48:560:48:58

I did was when I was younger, you know. I had a lot of ideas then.

0:48:580:49:01

-INTERVIEWER:

-You get a lot of extra action, too.

0:49:010:49:03

Oh, man, what you talking about?

0:49:030:49:05

That's why I got six kids by six different women.

0:49:050:49:08

# There's trouble in paradise

0:49:100:49:13

# I can see it and I know the signs so well

0:49:140:49:18

# I know he's out there and around it every day. #

0:49:180:49:22

There was only one time in the '70s

0:49:220:49:26

that I remember that Mom and Dad

0:49:260:49:28

ever talked about a divorce, and...

0:49:280:49:30

..it was the most devastating thing in the world for my father,

0:49:320:49:36

you know...and for my mom.

0:49:360:49:39

It just wasn't going to happen.

0:49:390:49:41

I mean, they could talk all they wanted to, but you know...

0:49:410:49:44

And it only lasted for a couple of weeks of that sort of behaviour

0:49:440:49:47

and then it was, you know,

0:49:470:49:49

they took off and were gone for a month,

0:49:490:49:52

you know, and come back with that flushed "I love you" look.

0:49:520:49:54

So, it's just the way it was.

0:49:540:49:57

And as growing up like that,

0:49:570:49:59

you also learned...

0:49:590:50:00

people aren't disposable, you know.

0:50:000:50:03

They're just... You fight for... You have to fight.

0:50:030:50:06

You have to fight for things that are important.

0:50:060:50:09

# Now I know about those devil women

0:50:090:50:13

# They'll set your lover's head to spinning

0:50:170:50:22

# And she's a demon

0:50:250:50:27

# She wants control

0:50:270:50:29

# But she ain't taking my man's soul

0:50:290:50:33

# She ain't taking my man's soul. #

0:50:330:50:38

# Hey, Louisiana woman

0:50:510:50:52

# Mississippi man

0:50:520:50:54

# We get together every time we can

0:50:540:50:56

# The Mississippi River can't keep us apart

0:50:560:50:58

# There's too much love in the Mississippi heart

0:50:580:51:00

# Too much love in this Louisiana heart. #

0:51:000:51:04

Everybody thought me and Conway had a thing going, you know,

0:51:040:51:07

and that's the furthest from the truth.

0:51:070:51:10

I loved Conway, as a friend,

0:51:100:51:13

and my husband loved him.

0:51:130:51:15

Conway was really the only one in the music business

0:51:150:51:17

that Doo gave a dag-gone for.

0:51:170:51:19

-INTERVIEWER:

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:51:190:51:20

You'd hear him out, they'd be talking.

0:51:200:51:22

You'd hear Conway just, "Ha-ha-ha."

0:51:220:51:24

And I'd wonder, "What the heck is he laughing about?"

0:51:240:51:27

And Doo'd be telling big jokes.

0:51:270:51:29

Most of them lies.

0:51:290:51:31

But he had him laughing all the time.

0:51:310:51:34

# Hey, Louisiana woman

0:51:340:51:35

# Mississippi man

0:51:350:51:36

# We get together every time we can

0:51:360:51:38

# The Mississippi River can't keep us apart

0:51:380:51:41

# There's too much love in the Mississippi heart

0:51:410:51:43

# Too much love in this Louisiana heart. #

0:51:430:51:45

Doolittle found our first song that we recorded together -

0:51:450:51:48

Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man.

0:51:480:51:50

Doolittle found that while we were on tour, yeah.

0:51:500:51:53

We come in and he had that going, he said, "I found you a hit song."

0:51:550:51:58

And Conway said, "I believe you have."

0:51:580:52:01

He looked at me and I said, "I think it is a hit."

0:52:010:52:04

We cut it and it was a hit.

0:52:040:52:05

When Conway and Loretta, that...

0:52:050:52:08

Do-Do-Do...

0:52:080:52:10

# Love is where you find it. #

0:52:100:52:14

And when they're sitting there just doing those singing waves

0:52:140:52:17

and everything together, same with Wynette-Jones,

0:52:170:52:19

that's all of a sudden, man, it just crawls all over you

0:52:190:52:22

and that's something I think you CAN'T get

0:52:220:52:25

from one of them just doing it by themselves.

0:52:250:52:28

# Love is where you find it

0:52:280:52:31

# When you find no love at home

0:52:310:52:36

# And there's nothin' cold as ashes

0:52:360:52:40

# After the fire has gone. #

0:52:410:52:45

She's performed countless hit songs over the years

0:52:450:52:50

and she's done over 150 concerts a year for the last half decade.

0:52:500:52:56

Hollywood can think of no better tribute

0:52:560:52:58

than to make a movie about her life.

0:52:580:53:01

Would you give a big, singing welcome to Loretta Lynn!

0:53:010:53:05

APPLAUSE

0:53:050:53:09

What's the movie going to be called? Coal Miner's Daughter?

0:53:090:53:12

-Coal Miner's Daughter.

-And that's going to star Sissy Spacek.

-Right.

0:53:120:53:15

It was before I had agreed to do the film, you know.

0:53:160:53:20

I had never met her and she...

0:53:200:53:23

She was...

0:53:230:53:25

probably the most popular guest on the Tonight Show

0:53:250:53:30

for many years.

0:53:300:53:31

She was on at least once a month, maybe...

0:53:310:53:34

Maybe twice a month,

0:53:350:53:37

but she really did the television circuit a lot and...

0:53:370:53:42

she would go on and say,

0:53:420:53:44

"Yeah, little Sissy Spacek, she's going to play me."

0:53:440:53:46

And I'd be watching, and I'm thinking...

0:53:460:53:48

At that point, I thought...

0:53:480:53:51

I had this bizarre idea

0:53:510:53:53

that I made my own decisions.

0:53:530:53:55

Well, that was before I met Loretta.

0:53:550:53:57

She's written her autobiography, most interesting,

0:53:570:54:00

called Coal Miner's Daughter. It's a great pleasure to have her here.

0:54:000:54:03

Would you welcome, please, Loretta Lynn?

0:54:030:54:05

-I was reading your book this afternoon.

-Oh, man.

0:54:050:54:07

-No, it's a good book.

-Well, thank you.

0:54:070:54:09

Yeah, but I didn't realise that...

0:54:090:54:11

you're a mother of six children.

0:54:110:54:13

-Oh, yes.

-Yeah, and started early.

0:54:130:54:15

You're from where, originally, now?

0:54:150:54:16

-Kentucky.

-Kentucky.

0:54:160:54:18

Yeah, I started real early, and I had...

0:54:180:54:21

I mean, REAL early.

0:54:210:54:22

Real early. I had four when I was 17.

0:54:220:54:24

AUDIENCE GASPS

0:54:240:54:25

That's starting early.

0:54:250:54:27

It wasn't easy. LAUGHTER

0:54:270:54:29

I had... I've got twins now.

0:54:290:54:31

That makes me have six.

0:54:310:54:32

When they started coming in pairs...

0:54:320:54:34

LAUGHTER

0:54:340:54:36

..I had my old man go get something done.

0:54:360:54:38

LAUGHTER

0:54:380:54:40

And since he got something done...

0:54:400:54:42

See, I was afraid they was going to start coming in litters.

0:54:420:54:44

LAUGHTER I didn't want that to happen.

0:54:440:54:47

Well, there's Doolittle.

0:54:470:54:49

Looking very spiffy.

0:54:490:54:51

He's drunk there.

0:54:510:54:53

THEY LAUGH

0:54:530:54:54

-No, he's not, I don't think.

-Was that...?

0:54:540:54:57

That was at the party after the show.

0:54:570:54:59

Doo's not feeling any pain there,

0:54:590:55:01

I guarantee you.

0:55:010:55:03

-When he gets on the mic...

-He's giving a speech!

0:55:030:55:05

..you know, he ain't feeling no pain.

0:55:050:55:06

Hollywood bets £8.5 million

0:55:060:55:09

on her remarkable life story.

0:55:090:55:11

And that was a square deal.

0:55:110:55:12

-Yep.

-Oh, look.

0:55:120:55:14

The Ryman.

0:55:140:55:17

Look at that. Do you remember who pushed me out on the stage?

0:55:170:55:20

-Uh-huh. Doolittle.

-Yeah.

0:55:200:55:22

Life imitating art.

0:55:220:55:24

# Sometimes a man's caught lookin'

0:55:290:55:32

-# At things that he don't need... #

-APPLAUSE

0:55:320:55:35

# He took a second look at you

0:55:350:55:37

# But he's in love with me

0:55:370:55:40

# Well, I don't know where that leaves you

0:55:400:55:43

-# But I know where I stand

-Sing it, Sissy.

0:55:430:55:46

# Cos you ain't woman enough to take my man

0:55:460:55:52

# Women like you they're a dime a dozen

0:55:520:55:54

# You can buy 'em anywhere

0:55:540:55:56

# For you to get to him I'd have to move over

0:55:560:55:59

# And I'm gonna stand right here

0:55:590:56:02

# It'll be over my dead body

0:56:020:56:04

# So get out while you can

0:56:040:56:07

# Cos you ain't woman enough to take my man

0:56:070:56:11

# No, you ain't woman enough to take my man. #

0:56:130:56:18

The Coal Miner's Daughter was a cultural event, as it were.

0:56:200:56:24

You know, there was an attitude there from

0:56:240:56:27

the kind of the coastal directors

0:56:270:56:29

from Los Angeles or New York,

0:56:290:56:31

a certain arrogance

0:56:310:56:32

towards the subject matter.

0:56:320:56:35

This was poor people, not very interesting people.

0:56:350:56:37

They did do good music,

0:56:370:56:39

but the roots of the music weren't that interesting.

0:56:390:56:42

There hadn't been

0:56:420:56:44

a really successful, popular/serious film

0:56:440:56:47

about country music and this was it.

0:56:470:56:50

I remember, one day, you said we were twins in another life.

0:56:500:56:55

Probably were.

0:56:550:56:56

I wonder if we'll ever know.

0:56:560:56:58

Yeah, we'll know one day.

0:56:580:57:00

-I love you.

-I love you, too, honey.

0:57:000:57:02

She's my sister.

0:57:050:57:07

Thank you. Thank you very much.

0:57:160:57:19

Thanks, Emmylou.

0:57:190:57:21

This year, the Country Music Hall Of Fame

0:57:210:57:23

honours one of the most admired women of our time

0:57:230:57:26

and, because her music comes from the heart,

0:57:260:57:29

she touched our very deepest, most personal emotions

0:57:290:57:33

and became an inspiration for millions.

0:57:330:57:35

She was born a coal miner's daughter,

0:57:350:57:38

but she has become a country music legend.

0:57:380:57:41

Ms Loretta Lynn!

0:57:410:57:42

APPLAUSE

0:57:420:57:45

# Well, I was borned a coal miner's daughter

0:57:450:57:48

# In a cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler

0:57:490:57:54

# We were poor but we had love

0:57:560:57:59

# That's the one thing that daddy made sure of

0:57:590:58:03

# He shovelled coal to make a poor man's dollar. #

0:58:030:58:07

CHEERING

0:58:120:58:14

All right, honey?

0:58:140:58:16

-Oh, hi.

-I'm so glad to see you.

0:58:160:58:19

This is my baby, here.

0:58:190:58:21

My mother's family and your...

0:58:210:58:23

-And my family come from the same place.

-Yep.

0:58:230:58:25

Me and June Carter had to be close as sisters,

0:58:250:58:28

but neither one of us knew that.

0:58:280:58:29

Right across the mountains from each other,

0:58:290:58:31

like 45 miles as a crow flies.

0:58:310:58:33

-Yeah, just over the hill.

-Just over the hill.

0:58:330:58:35

We've had a lot of fun in the past little bit.

0:58:350:58:37

We've recorded a lot of music together - you, I, and Patsy.

0:58:370:58:39

-Me and him's done about 90 songs in the last year or so.

-Yep.

0:58:390:58:41

Yep, been working in the studio for a while,

0:58:410:58:43

-so we recorded about 25 songs, something like that.

-Yeah, we did.

0:58:430:58:46

-Appalachian, just real pure acoustic instrumentation.

-Right.

0:58:460:58:49

# I never will marry

0:58:520:58:55

# Nor be no man's wife

0:58:560:58:58

# I expect to live single

0:59:000:59:03

# All the days of my life

0:59:040:59:07

# The storms and the ocean

0:59:090:59:12

# Will be my deathbed

0:59:130:59:14

# The fish in the water

0:59:170:59:20

# Swim over my head

0:59:210:59:24

# I never will marry

0:59:260:59:29

# Nor be no man's wife

0:59:300:59:33

# I expect to live single

0:59:340:59:38

# All the days of my life. #

0:59:390:59:42

The family has never really left Butcher Holler.

0:59:440:59:47

We brought Butcher Holler with us.

0:59:470:59:48

It is born in us here.

0:59:480:59:51

We just created our own Butcher Holler

0:59:510:59:54

60 miles West of Nashville, Tennessee.

0:59:540:59:56

Hurricane Mills, 37078.

0:59:560:59:58

When they bought the property,

1:00:351:00:36

they didn't realise that a town came with it

1:00:361:00:39

and a whole zip code and post office.

1:00:391:00:42

It grew from her fans

1:00:421:00:45

finding out where she lived

1:00:451:00:47

and started coming to see Loretta Lynn's house.

1:00:471:00:51

Not only were they coming to see Loretta Lynn's house,

1:00:511:00:54

they were camping out on the side of the road.

1:00:541:00:56

I can't stand the dude ranch part.

1:00:561:00:58

Dad was just going to build a little camp ground for the fan club,

1:00:581:01:02

when we had our fan club meeting every year.

1:01:021:01:05

Yeah.

1:01:061:01:07

Then she would add more and more attractions.

1:01:071:01:11

They built a rodeo arena,

1:01:111:01:13

and then, they built an entertainment pavilion.

1:01:131:01:17

It's not one of the fancy theatres,

1:01:171:01:19

but she don't want that here.

1:01:191:01:21

It's still that down home,

1:01:211:01:24

almost tent revival, family show kind of a feeling.

1:01:241:01:27

Come as you are and you stay as long as you want,

1:01:271:01:29

and just be yourself and have fun -

1:01:291:01:32

and that's the way she likes it.

1:01:321:01:33

Now we got Grand National Motocrosses,

1:01:351:01:37

cross-country races.

1:01:371:01:38

There's over a million people a year come through here.

1:01:381:01:41

They had something they wanted to work towards together

1:01:411:01:45

and they were the quintessential great partnership,

1:01:451:01:48

because Dad did THIS very well,

1:01:481:01:51

Mom did THIS very well,

1:01:511:01:53

but when they came into each other's worlds,

1:01:531:01:56

trying to, you know...

1:01:561:01:57

Mom trying to play the farmwife,

1:01:571:02:01

you know, kind of thing.

1:02:011:02:02

She didn't fit into that.

1:02:021:02:04

Dad, on the other hand, when he went out on the road with her,

1:02:041:02:07

he hated it.

1:02:071:02:08

So, Hurricane Mills became the project

1:02:081:02:11

that both of them could come together on

1:02:111:02:14

and have a really strong partnership

1:02:141:02:17

because they needed each other

1:02:171:02:20

to make the whole.

1:02:201:02:22

I mean, they are two people that needed each other to make...

1:02:221:02:26

..a legacy.

1:02:271:02:28

# Yeah, I'm proud to be a coal miner's daughter

1:02:301:02:35

# I remember well, the well where I drew water

1:02:361:02:41

# The work we done was hard

1:02:431:02:46

# At night we'd sleep cos we were tired

1:02:461:02:50

# I never thought of ever leaving Butcher Holler

1:02:501:02:54

# Well, a lot of things have changed since way back then

1:02:561:03:01

# And it's so good to be back home again

1:03:031:03:07

# Not much left but the floor

1:03:091:03:12

# Nothing lives here any more

1:03:131:03:15

# Except the memories of a coal miner's daughter. #

1:03:161:03:21

In Loretta's early years,

1:03:251:03:28

she just gave and gave,

1:03:281:03:30

and gave, and gave -

1:03:301:03:31

and didn't know when to quit -

1:03:311:03:33

and she gave so much of herself,

1:03:331:03:36

she made herself so available,

1:03:361:03:38

she would stay for years and years, and years, and years, and years.

1:03:381:03:41

Decades.

1:03:411:03:43

She stayed touring as much as she toured.

1:03:431:03:47

Hundreds of days a year,

1:03:471:03:49

several shows a day.

1:03:491:03:51

She would stay hours after and sign autographs.

1:03:511:03:54

I think people should be

1:03:541:03:57

available to all the fans.

1:03:571:03:59

They're the ones making them a living.

1:03:591:04:01

Really.

1:04:011:04:02

If they only think about it,

1:04:021:04:03

they're the ones that comes out and sees you at the show,

1:04:031:04:06

they buy your records, so why wouldn't you be nice to them?

1:04:061:04:09

And... RUMBLING

1:04:091:04:11

-..what is that?

-You can come inside.

1:04:111:04:14

Hi, I was telling them y'all could say hello to Ms Loretta Lynn.

1:04:161:04:19

Hi, Loretta.

1:04:191:04:20

Hi there.

1:04:201:04:21

-Hi.

-Hi.

-Hello.

1:04:211:04:24

How yous doing?

1:04:241:04:26

They're all from Canada, Mom.

1:04:261:04:27

Oh, really?

1:04:271:04:28

Well, I'm blessed to have you all, I'll tell you.

1:04:281:04:31

So, they're all... There's a tour bus, Mom.

1:04:311:04:33

-This is half of the group from the tour bus.

-It is crazy.

1:04:331:04:37

Now, we don't tour the upstairs, we still keep the upstairs private

1:04:371:04:40

because it's all of our bedrooms,

1:04:401:04:42

so we always say, if we want to come

1:04:421:04:44

home, it's kind of cool,

1:04:441:04:46

because this house has never changed.

1:04:461:04:48

My mom and dad, when they moved out,

1:04:481:04:49

they never took anything out of the house

1:04:491:04:51

so it kind of sits frozen in time so, when we come back here...

1:04:511:04:54

In fact, we were walking back in to get Mom's interviewer

1:04:541:04:57

-and I said "Welcome home, Mother."

-LAUGHTER

1:04:571:04:59

ALL: # Well, I was born a coal miner's daughter,

1:05:001:05:06

# In a cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler

1:05:061:05:10

# We were poor but we had love

1:05:121:05:15

# That's the one thing my daddy made sure of

1:05:151:05:19

# He shovelled coal to make a poor man's dollar. #

1:05:191:05:25

THEY LAUGH

1:05:251:05:27

It's a long song.

1:05:271:05:29

Look over here and sing me. Sing it, honey. You're doing good.

1:05:291:05:32

It's just...I can't sing and look at you at the same time.

1:05:321:05:35

LAUGHTER

1:05:351:05:37

# I was born a coal miner's daughter

1:05:371:05:40

ALL: # In a cabin on a hill in Butcher Holler

1:05:401:05:46

# We were poor but we had love

1:05:461:05:51

# That's the one thing my daddy made sure of

1:05:511:05:54

# He shovelled coal to make a poor man's dollar. #

1:05:541:05:59

Now don't cry when you're singing to me.

1:05:591:06:01

Go ahead.

1:06:011:06:03

INDISTINCT CHATTER

1:06:031:06:07

Thank you, honey.

1:06:071:06:09

-Hey, Patsy, wasn't she a good singer?

-Ya-huh.

1:06:091:06:12

Wasn't she a good singer?

1:06:121:06:13

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

1:06:131:06:14

Thank all you people.

1:06:161:06:17

I don't want to use the word "Redneck" or "Hillbilly"...

1:06:171:06:20

..but I'm kind of proud to be both of those things.

1:06:221:06:27

My parents brought those to us

1:06:271:06:29

because both of them have those same qualities.

1:06:291:06:32

But it's real, OK?

1:06:341:06:36

There's nothing fake,

1:06:361:06:38

there's nothing phony,

1:06:381:06:39

there's nothing... There's...

1:06:391:06:41

We don't care about...

1:06:411:06:44

..how people perceive us.

1:06:461:06:49

We're all really hard workers.

1:06:491:06:51

Oh, yeah. We... Back when we had the plough and stuff, all this was corn,

1:06:511:06:55

all this was... That's corn this year and soya beans.

1:06:551:06:57

Me and my brother, we ploughed.

1:06:571:07:00

We'd take... We'd work six hours at night

1:07:001:07:02

and we'd get up and go to school.

1:07:021:07:04

We'd work till midnight every night, ploughing and stuff.

1:07:041:07:06

We worked just like everybody else had to because

1:07:061:07:08

he'd tell you, "If you don't want to work, that's fine."

1:07:081:07:11

You know, "Where your plate used to sit,

1:07:111:07:13

"there'll be a hole in the table."

1:07:131:07:15

If you didn't want to work, you don't eat.

1:07:151:07:17

My brother works here on the farm,

1:07:171:07:20

works on tractors... I mean,

1:07:201:07:22

we're all mechanics, we're all cooks, we're all good mothers,

1:07:221:07:25

we all know how to sew,

1:07:251:07:27

PLUS, you know,

1:07:271:07:28

we just happen to have enough money

1:07:281:07:30

to do things we want to do if we want to do them, you know.

1:07:301:07:34

It is... It's just...

1:07:341:07:36

We can go have dinner at the White House,

1:07:361:07:38

and we have, and then come back here and ride tractors

1:07:381:07:42

and four-wheelers and you know,

1:07:421:07:44

go mud-bogging, you know.

1:07:441:07:46

It's just... Isn't it great?

1:07:461:07:48

Oh.

1:07:481:07:49

We're... We're sitting there at a dinner table at the White House.

1:07:491:07:52

They're putting down the plates,

1:07:521:07:54

and they're talking about the little White House insignia on it.

1:07:541:07:56

She comes back from the bathroom,

1:07:561:07:58

her daughters cannot keep her shoes on her, right?

1:07:581:08:00

-And she's in the White House.

-In a full ball gown.

1:08:001:08:02

There's glitter everywhere.

1:08:021:08:04

She sits down right next to me

1:08:041:08:06

and there's this young boy,

1:08:061:08:07

he looks like he's 12, rosy cheeks, got this little tie,

1:08:071:08:10

and he's serving, and he's serving these biscuits,

1:08:101:08:12

-remember these?

-I do.

-These little biscuits.

1:08:121:08:15

And he gets to the right side of Ms Lynn...

1:08:151:08:17

..and she uses the tie like a doorbell,

1:08:191:08:22

and she just pulls him down,

1:08:221:08:24

and she goes, "What is that?"

1:08:241:08:27

He goes "Uh... That's... That's a flat biscuit, Ms Lynn."

1:08:271:08:30

Swear she goes,

1:08:301:08:32

"You tell those people in the back

1:08:321:08:34

"if they add a little self-raising flour, that thing'll pop right up."

1:08:341:08:37

SHE LAUGHS

1:08:371:08:38

No kidding!

1:08:381:08:40

The guy, sweet as he could be, "I will tell them, Ms Lynn."

1:08:401:08:42

-He was fantastic.

-And it was probably some kind of gourmet scone.

1:08:421:08:45

I don't even know what it was exactly, but you know...

1:08:451:08:47

It was like... I love her so much. She's just... She's just who she is.

1:08:471:08:52

# I lie here all alone

1:08:521:08:54

# In my bed of memories

1:08:551:08:59

# I'm dreaming of your sweet kiss

1:08:591:09:03

# Oh, how you loved on me... #

1:09:031:09:08

My brother Jack was...

1:09:081:09:10

He was a lot like my dad.

1:09:101:09:12

My dad and my brother could not be in the same room

1:09:121:09:15

for two minutes without fighting.

1:09:151:09:19

And he couldn't sing.

1:09:191:09:20

Just like my father, my brother Jack...

1:09:201:09:23

He couldn't even hum in tune, OK?

1:09:231:09:24

Or whistle. You didn't want to hear any of those things.

1:09:241:09:27

He loved horses...

1:09:271:09:29

and he loved the farm.

1:09:291:09:32

Well, we was in Nebraska and...

1:09:321:09:36

Jack worked here on the ranch with my dad and Mama got sick.

1:09:361:09:39

We was coming home from Nebraska

1:09:391:09:41

and we was in Mount Vernon, Illinois.

1:09:411:09:44

And I was manager then and she was sick, so I put her in a hospital.

1:09:441:09:50

She was in ICU, she's dehydrated.

1:09:501:09:52

And I was sitting there with her

1:09:521:09:54

and I sent the band home on the other bus

1:09:541:09:56

and she told me in ICU, you know, there's no TV, nothing.

1:09:561:10:00

You're just plugged in she said,

1:10:001:10:02

"Something's the matter with Jack."

1:10:021:10:04

I said, "Ain't nothing the matter with Jack, Mama,

1:10:041:10:06

"he's at the ranch with Dad."

1:10:061:10:07

"No, something's the matter with him." So, I said, "No."

1:10:071:10:10

And you could only stay in there like 10 minutes.

1:10:101:10:12

I went over to the little old hotel connected to the hospital

1:10:121:10:15

and Dad called me that night...

1:10:151:10:17

The next morning.

1:10:171:10:18

He said, "I need some phone numbers."

1:10:181:10:21

He said, "Jack didn't go home."

1:10:211:10:23

So, him and Dad was fighting.

1:10:251:10:27

Jack - "I quit and I'm taking my horse and stuff, I'm going home."

1:10:271:10:29

Well, he didn't get home.

1:10:291:10:31

So, me and Jack always had the same girlfriends, you know.

1:10:321:10:36

And he said, "I need some phone numbers."

1:10:371:10:40

I said, "I ain't... No, no, no, no."

1:10:401:10:42

Jack was married.

1:10:421:10:44

He said, "No, he didn't come home, just give me some numbers."

1:10:441:10:47

I gave him a few numbers and stuff and...

1:10:471:10:49

he called back he says, "He ain't at none of them."

1:10:491:10:53

He said, "I've done called the rescue squad and stuff.

1:10:531:10:56

"We found his horse... on the river bank," so...

1:10:561:11:01

I didn't say nothing to Mom.

1:11:011:11:03

Went back to the hospital, she said, "Something's wrong."

1:11:031:11:06

She said, "I can just tell it."

1:11:061:11:08

My father, they were in boats...

1:11:081:11:11

with these nets

1:11:111:11:13

and they were dragging the river...

1:11:131:11:15

and the look on his face,

1:11:151:11:18

my dad's face,

1:11:181:11:20

looking at that water.

1:11:201:11:22

I kept thinking, "Is that like a mirror of time?"

1:11:221:11:24

Is every memory that he ever shared with his son,

1:11:241:11:29

he's having to see that

1:11:291:11:31

dragging this river, looking for his body.

1:11:311:11:34

I was in the hospital, and they didn't tell me anything about it.

1:11:341:11:38

And they looked for him for three days before they found him.

1:11:381:11:41

And after they found him, they... Doo come and told me.

1:11:411:11:45

He drove all the way to where I was at, down in Illinois somewhere.

1:11:451:11:49

And told me Jack died.

1:11:491:11:51

I couldn't believe that, but...

1:11:511:11:53

..yeah, sometimes I know what going to happen.

1:11:551:11:58

And we didn't work for almost three years...

1:11:581:12:01

..and, it was real rough. It was bad.

1:12:021:12:05

# Our blessed Father gives us life

1:12:051:12:08

# Has the power to take it away

1:12:081:12:11

# There's no reason for what he does

1:12:111:12:14

# God makes no mistakes. #

1:12:141:12:16

Dad became a binge drinker then

1:12:261:12:28

so, for three months, he would drink every day,

1:12:281:12:32

be drunk every day, you know, kind of thing.

1:12:321:12:35

By the end of the day, he'd come in out of the field and...

1:12:351:12:39

have to go to bed.

1:12:391:12:40

So...

1:12:421:12:43

And would tell you how ashamed he was.

1:12:431:12:47

And for a child, for a young adult,

1:12:471:12:50

for me, that was in...

1:12:501:12:51

Horribly horrible to watch.

1:12:511:12:54

And that's when my dad started having strokes and stuff,

1:12:541:12:57

and we didn't know he was having mini strokes, we just thought...

1:12:571:13:00

You know, he'd be talking just go off somewhere then come back again,

1:13:001:13:03

but he'd had like 15, 20 mini strokes.

1:13:031:13:05

Staying off as long as I did, like six years, you know,

1:13:071:13:10

taking care of Doo.

1:13:101:13:11

Yeah, I didn't go out and sing.

1:13:111:13:14

I felt that I was the one supposed to take care of him, and I did.

1:13:141:13:17

But I sat and watched them take one leg off

1:13:191:13:21

and then the other leg off, and that was hard.

1:13:211:13:23

That was so hard because he loved to farm.

1:13:231:13:26

And I knew that he wouldn't be working any more, that bothered me.

1:13:261:13:30

Two days before Dad died...

1:13:351:13:36

He never admitted to nothing, ever.

1:13:361:13:39

He said, "I don't give a damn if you get caught in the bed with her,

1:13:391:13:42

"it ain't you."

1:13:421:13:43

He said, "If you leave that little bit of doubt,

1:13:431:13:47

"it's always in her mind, it might not be you."

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Me and Mama sitting over and talking to him

1:13:511:13:53

and his lungs kept filling up and stuff.

1:13:531:13:55

He was sitting there and

1:13:551:13:57

laying in the bed,

1:13:571:13:59

and me and Mom was talking to him.

1:13:591:14:00

He still had good sense about him and stuff,

1:14:001:14:02

but his lungs kept... They weren't taking the fluid.

1:14:021:14:05

He just drowned in his lungs, you know.

1:14:051:14:06

Heart failure's what they call it.

1:14:061:14:09

And he looked up at Mom and says,

1:14:091:14:11

"Loretta, I just want to let you know,

1:14:111:14:13

"you're the only woman I've ever slept with."

1:14:131:14:16

Hell, I, like, spit my implants out.

1:14:161:14:18

I had... Hell, I turned round and hauled ass in the bedroom,

1:14:201:14:23

and I'm just dying laughing.

1:14:231:14:25

I said, "The old son of a bitch ain't going to give it up."

1:14:251:14:27

Mama come in the bedroom, "Did you hear that shit?"

1:14:271:14:30

I said, "I heard it, I heard it."

1:14:301:14:33

She said, "He's going to stick to it, ain't he?"

1:14:331:14:35

I said, "You've got to give him credit for one thing,

1:14:351:14:38

"he ain't never admitted to shit and never will." And he didn't.

1:14:381:14:41

# God knows he wasn't perfect

1:14:411:14:44

# But then again nobody is

1:14:441:14:47

# He always told me the truth

1:14:501:14:53

# No matter how hard it was to hear

1:14:541:14:59

# When he said, "I believe in you"

1:15:001:15:03

# That was music to my ears

1:15:041:15:07

# Oh, each word's like a note

1:15:101:15:13

# Like a beautiful tune

1:15:131:15:15

# The kind that inspires and helps you get through

1:15:161:15:20

# Oh, if I said, "I can't"

1:15:211:15:24

# He said, "You can"

1:15:241:15:27

# He was my toughest critic

1:15:271:15:29

# Oh, and my biggest fan

1:15:291:15:33

# Now, he's gone to a distant shore

1:15:331:15:38

# And I can't hear the music any more

1:15:401:15:43

# I can't hear the music... #

1:15:471:15:49

APPLAUSE

1:15:591:16:03

# I called up the salesman, he said, "Come on in"

1:16:111:16:14

# "I've got that Lincoln right here, belonged to Loretta Lynn"

1:16:141:16:17

# "The coal miner's daughter used to drive it to town

1:16:171:16:20

# "It's yours for a song and 500 down"

1:16:201:16:23

# He said, "It's yours for a song and 500 down..."

1:16:231:16:26

# Well, I throwed my old guitar in that big back-seat

1:16:261:16:30

# And I steered her on out on to Dameron Street

1:16:301:16:33

# Them other cars pulled over like the Red Sea partin'

1:16:331:16:36

# It was then I had a vision of Dolly Parton

1:16:361:16:39

# Right then and there he had a vision of Dolly Parton. #

1:16:391:16:42

You remember this one we wrote?

1:16:421:16:43

I'm More Alone When I'm With You Than I Am When I'm Alone.

1:16:431:16:46

That's the one that I threw at you, remember?

1:16:461:16:48

I wrote on and wrote on, and wrote on,

1:16:481:16:50

and never could write it.

1:16:501:16:52

I handed it to him and he had it wrote in a few minutes.

1:16:521:16:55

You know, the first day we sat down to write, several years ago,

1:16:551:17:00

you were just reading off all these song titles,

1:17:001:17:02

and thoughts and ideas you had, and I remember you were...

1:17:021:17:05

One was like, "Between a rock and a hard place."

1:17:051:17:08

There's all kinds of...

1:17:081:17:09

You had like several different,

1:17:091:17:11

you were just spitting them out and I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa."

1:17:111:17:14

You said, "I'm..."

1:17:141:17:15

You stopped me when I got to a title you wanted to write, that's it.

1:17:151:17:17

I'm Dying For Someone To Live For.

1:17:171:17:19

-Yeah, I'm Dying For Someone To Live For.

-And that's the first one.

1:17:191:17:21

-I listened to that the other day.

-You did?

-It's really good.

1:17:211:17:24

# Loneliness falls all around

1:17:241:17:28

# And it's almost got me down

1:17:281:17:32

# Well, I guess when it rains, it pours

1:17:331:17:37

# I'm dying for someone to live for. #

1:17:381:17:42

Let's look through some of your scraps and see what you got,

1:17:421:17:45

maybe we'll write us one here on the spot.

1:17:451:17:47

-Do you want to see what I wrote on that?

-Yeah, let's see that.

1:17:471:17:50

What is that?

1:17:501:17:51

That's probably all I had to write on when I wrote it.

1:17:531:17:56

Wow. I'm Dying For Someone To Live For.

1:17:581:18:00

"Give a man a free hand and he'll put it all over you."

1:18:001:18:02

Yeah.

1:18:021:18:03

That's the truth.

1:18:031:18:05

-"Give a man a free hand and he'll put it all over you."

-Yeah.

1:18:051:18:08

You were probably riding down the road

1:18:081:18:10

-at 90 miles and hour in a bus...

-Writing that, yeah.

1:18:101:18:12

..and that thing bouncing all over the place

1:18:121:18:14

-while you're trying to scratch this stuff off.

-That's probably it.

1:18:141:18:17

-In the middle of the night.

-Yeah. Portland, Oregon -

1:18:171:18:19

that's the one you did with Jack White.

1:18:191:18:21

Yeah, me and Jack White cut this.

1:18:211:18:23

You wrote that a long time before you met Jack.

1:18:231:18:25

Oh, yeah, a long time...

1:18:251:18:27

before I met Jack.

1:18:271:18:29

# Well, Portland, Oregon and sloe gin fizz

1:18:341:18:37

# If that ain't love, then tell me what is,

1:18:371:18:39

# Uh-huh, uh-huh

1:18:391:18:43

# Well, I lost my heart

1:18:441:18:46

# It didn't take no time

1:18:461:18:47

# But that ain't all

1:18:471:18:49

# I lost my mind in Oregon

1:18:491:18:51

# In a booth in the corner with the lights down low

1:18:541:18:57

# I was movin' in fast, she was takin' it slow

1:18:571:19:00

# Uh-huh, uh-huh. #

1:19:001:19:03

The first exposure to Loretta's music was from the movie

1:19:031:19:06

Coal Miner's Daughter when I was a kid,

1:19:061:19:08

probably six or seven or something like that.

1:19:081:19:10

And when we were in the White Stripes,

1:19:101:19:11

Meg and I both loved Loretta.

1:19:111:19:13

We listened to her all the time when we were on tour in the van.

1:19:131:19:16

That was one of our go-to records,

1:19:161:19:18

was the Loretta Lynn box set,

1:19:181:19:20

we had bought the box set so we were listening to all the CDs.

1:19:201:19:23

We thought, you know, "We should really dedicate this album to her."

1:19:231:19:27

And we did. And we just thought that would be the end of it.

1:19:271:19:29

It was just a nice thank you to her

1:19:291:19:31

for her influence on us over the years...

1:19:311:19:34

..but Loretta wrote us a letter that word got to her about that

1:19:351:19:39

and she wrote us a letter and said,

1:19:391:19:40

"That was really nice of you and I'd love for you to come

1:19:401:19:43

"and I'll cook you dinner sometime."

1:19:431:19:45

Something like that, and I had the letter framed at my house when I...

1:19:451:19:48

It was one of the first things I ever framed as an adult...

1:19:481:19:51

thinking, "I'm never going to actually meet Loretta Lynn."

1:19:511:19:54

I just thought it was a nice gesture of hers.

1:19:541:19:57

But she did invite us down for dinner.

1:19:571:19:59

We did go down there and it was pretty amazing that...

1:19:591:20:03

She was super nice and she gave Meg a...

1:20:031:20:06

She went up in the attic and got a dress for Meg,

1:20:061:20:08

a red dress for her and gave it to her.

1:20:081:20:10

# Well, I looked at him and caught him lookin' at me

1:20:101:20:13

# I knew right then we were playin' free in Oregon... #

1:20:131:20:17

Patsy, her daughter, had mentioned that

1:20:191:20:22

they were going to maybe make a new record

1:20:221:20:24

and I said, "Wow, really?"

1:20:241:20:25

And I was just kind of eating and saying,

1:20:251:20:27

"Well, you know, if you ever need a producer,

1:20:271:20:29

"I'll throw my hat in the ring."

1:20:291:20:30

Thinking, "They're never going to let me produce her record,"

1:20:301:20:33

because I'm not a producer on a level like...

1:20:331:20:35

That they would know about or care about.

1:20:351:20:37

I produce like garage rock records

1:20:371:20:39

that 500 people had heard of, or something.

1:20:391:20:41

Oh, yeah, Van Lear Rose was great.

1:20:411:20:43

The only thing...

1:20:451:20:47

-We paid for that album...

-Yeah.

1:20:471:20:50

..and...

1:20:501:20:51

..it appeals to a certain crowd.

1:20:541:20:57

It don't appeal to the old country people.

1:20:571:21:00

So, it didn't sell that good.

1:21:001:21:02

They got a Grammy for it,

1:21:021:21:04

but still, that don't make up for the sale of the album...

1:21:041:21:08

cos it cost a lot of money to make an album now.

1:21:081:21:12

# Woman, you don't know me

1:21:121:21:14

# But you can bet that I know you

1:21:141:21:17

# Everybody in this whole darn town knows you, too

1:21:191:21:24

# I brought along our little babies cos I wanted them to see

1:21:261:21:34

# The woman that's burnin' down our family tree. #

1:21:351:21:40

"I brought along our little babies..."

1:21:421:21:44

And something, something, too.

1:21:441:21:46

And she says to the girl...

1:21:461:21:48

She says, "I brought along our little babies

1:21:481:21:51

"and the bills that's overdue."

1:21:511:21:53

"The job you're workin' - Lord, we need money too."

1:21:531:21:56

I couldn't believe what she talked... I'm telling you, man.

1:21:561:22:00

It's... As a songwriter, you're just like...

1:22:001:22:02

It blows your mind when someone else cares so much

1:22:021:22:04

about the little detail of it,

1:22:041:22:07

and she was saying,

1:22:071:22:09

"Brought along our little babies and our bills that are overdue,

1:22:091:22:12

"the job you're workin' - Lord, we need money too."

1:22:121:22:16

# I brought along his old dog Charlie

1:22:161:22:19

# And the bills that's overdue

1:22:191:22:23

# The work you're doing

1:22:241:22:26

# Lord, we need money, too. #

1:22:261:22:29

She turned to me and said, "You know what I'm saying, right?

1:22:291:22:32

"I'm sayin' she's a whore."

1:22:321:22:34

At that instant, you're like, I thought for a second...

1:22:381:22:40

You mean, she's just being very light on it, like, I don't...

1:22:401:22:44

"I'm not getting deep on this, I'm just calling her an evil name."

1:22:441:22:47

She didn't mean that, she meant she's actually a working prostitute.

1:22:471:22:50

"The job you're working, we need money too."

1:22:501:22:52

So, if you're going to be a whore,

1:22:521:22:54

give us some of your whore money to pay our bills.

1:22:541:22:56

That's how deep she was on that lyric,

1:22:561:22:59

that I'm sure just flies right by anyone

1:22:591:23:01

who would listen to that song.

1:23:011:23:03

# ..Bring out the baby's daddy,

1:23:031:23:05

# That's who they've come to see

1:23:061:23:09

# Not the woman that's burnin' down our family tree

1:23:101:23:15

# No, not the woman that's burnin' down our family tree. #

1:23:171:23:25

And what's really made it so beautiful and magical,

1:23:291:23:32

and lasted this long

1:23:321:23:33

is how brilliant she is underneath all that.

1:23:331:23:36

There's a layer underneath that supports all that

1:23:361:23:39

and, if you really dig deep into the lyrics,

1:23:391:23:41

you realise that she's way far ahead of you.

1:23:411:23:44

# Starts with a G

1:23:451:23:47

# When I hold it in my hands

1:23:481:23:50

# Whispered, "And you ain't woman enough to take my man"

1:23:521:23:57

# Pulling me back

1:23:591:24:02

# Down an old Kentucky hole

1:24:021:24:05

# A little girl sitting on her front porch, picking

1:24:061:24:09

# Pouring out her soul

1:24:091:24:12

# And little did she know

1:24:121:24:16

# All the secrets it was going to hold

1:24:161:24:20

# This Epiphone guitar my memaw gave to me

1:24:201:24:25

# When I pick up

1:24:251:24:28

# I just feel the melody

1:24:281:24:31

# Her ins and outs

1:24:311:24:32

# Her ups and downs

1:24:321:24:34

# Are the stories that it sings

1:24:341:24:37

# And I get to be the one

1:24:371:24:40

# Unwinding the strings

1:24:411:24:45

# Oh, when I reach for the C

1:24:481:24:51

# The words that I find

1:24:511:24:54

# Are "Don't come home a drinkin' with lovin' on your mind"

1:24:541:24:58

# Leading me on to the Grand Ole Opry stage

1:25:001:25:04

# Heartbeat racing and the house lights raining kisses on my face

1:25:061:25:12

# Who'd have thought I would be standing where she stood?

1:25:121:25:18

# Playing this Epiphone guitar my memaw gave to me

1:25:181:25:23

# When I pick it up

1:25:241:25:27

# I just feel the melody

1:25:271:25:30

# Her ins and outs

1:25:301:25:31

# Her ups and down

1:25:311:25:33

# Are the stories that it sings

1:25:331:25:35

# And I get to be the one

1:25:351:25:38

# Unwinding the strings

1:25:401:25:45

# From the hands of a girl from Butcher Holler

1:25:471:25:52

# To the hands of a coal miner's great-granddaughter

1:25:521:25:58

# This Epiphone guitar my memaw gave to me

1:26:121:26:17

# When I pick it up... #

1:26:171:26:20

# I was born a coal miner's daughter... #

1:26:221:26:29

She's the most awarded lady in the history of country music,

1:26:301:26:33

ladies and gentlemen.

1:26:331:26:34

The first lady to have a motion picture made of her life,

1:26:341:26:38

now she is the new recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

1:26:381:26:41

She's the coal miner's daughter, Ms Loretta Lynn.

1:26:411:26:43

CHEERING

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# I lie here all alone

1:26:551:26:58

# In my bed of memories

1:26:581:27:03

# I'm dreamin' of your sweet kiss

1:27:031:27:06

# Oh, how you loved on me

1:27:061:27:10

# I can almost feel you with me

1:27:111:27:14

# Here in this blue moonlight

1:27:141:27:18

# Oh, I miss being Mrs tonight

1:27:181:27:24

# Oh, I miss being Mrs tonight. #

1:27:261:27:32

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