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It's coming. We're getting it. That takes me back to school days. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
I wonder how many schoolboys nowadays | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
are taught the principle of an Archimedes screw. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
In the north-west of England, there's a remarkable legacy from | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
the Industrial Revolution which helped change the entire world. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
At Ellesmere Port across the water from Liverpool, there are | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
seven acres of locks and warehouses | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
which now make up the centrepiece of the National Waterways Museum. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
It's home to over 60 narrowboats | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
and barges, some of them dating back to the 19th century. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
These boats are lovingly tended to by an army of unpaid workers. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
The bulk of the volunteers on the site are really like myself. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
Boring old sods who've got nothing better to do. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
I don't go into building bridges out of steel. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
I'm not Brunel, I wish I were. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
£3 then, please. Thanking you. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
But a financial crisis has left the Waterways Museum | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
on the brink of closure. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
These old boats aren't enticing the public in any more | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
and the museum is losing money. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Nobody is giving up, don't let any defeatist talk come in on this place. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
You know, they're going to close us at the end of the year. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
If there's any of that talk, it's absolute rubbish. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
In my six months filming here, the museum's dire predicament | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
would bring out the best and the worst in everyone. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Hang on a minute, I'm not happy with what's going on here, stop that job. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
They seem to have lost the plot. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
At the moment, I should think it'll end with the museum closing. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
In this series, I've set out to examine | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
how struggling museums are trying to reconnect with the British public. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
I want to know how important is it that these custodians | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
of our nation's history are preserved for future generations. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
You see the place is falling apart. Slate, it's come off the roof. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
My first impression of the National Waterways Museum | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
is of a vast and beautiful site. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
It's impressive - | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
there's the huge exhibition hall with over 100 displays. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
And also a power hall | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
with beautifully restored diesel engines, used to drive boats. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
But outside is where I notice the real problems lie. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
Groups of retired men spend | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
their time trying to keep these boats from sinking. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
But it's a thankless task. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
This is what they call oakum. Little bits of string, rag. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
You roll it and then you push it into the holes. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
And when it gets wet it swells and blocks the gap up, hopefully. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
I don't think it'll stop it, to be honest. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Plugging holes in this way is just a temporary measure. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
The boats won't survive | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
unless they get craned out of the water and properly restored. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
It's a far cry from its heyday when this port was at the very centre | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
of a busy junction between the Manchester Ship Canal | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and the River Mersey. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Visitors can gain experience of the waterways first-hand | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
with a guided tour down the Shropshire Union Canal | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
on the narrowboat, Centaur. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Which side do you want, this one or this one? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Mel Caswell has just been taken on for the summer and is already | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
giving tours on the boat. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
We're in Ellesmere Port, of course. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
And to our left hand side | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
we've got the vast area that is the Stanlow oil refinery. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
Of course, it used to go directly | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
on to the Mersey before the ship canal was built. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
Oh, my God. There's always one! | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-Hello? -Hello, darling! | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
I'm having a baby! | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
I tell you what, you're much better than yesterday's lot. Flipping hell. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Did you tell them that as well? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
They were just awful. I mean, really. Like, the living dead. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
# Looking at you my troubles are fleeing | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
# I'm admiring the view | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
# Cos it's you I'm seeing | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
# And the sweet honey dew of well-being settles upon me... # | 0:04:22 | 0:04:30 | |
When Mel's passengers look out of their windows, they don't | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
get a very picturesque view. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
They're seeing what's left of a once heavily industrialised landscape. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
Ellesmere Port was a vital hub that | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
linked factories and ports across Britain and helped to make cities | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
like Liverpool and Manchester | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
some of the richest commercial centres on the planet. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
But the canal system was replaced by first the railways | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
and then the roads. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
As a result, the buildings here were derelict for many decades. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
But then in the 70s, a group of boat enthusiasts began | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
the process of restoring the site. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Over several years, they rebuilt the warehouses | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and got the locks working again. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
By the '80s, Ellesmere Port was a thriving museum | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
with one of the best collections of narrowboats in the world. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
But in the last 20 years, it's lost its way. It's been short of money. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
The boats began to rot and then sink. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
The museum saw numerous different managers come and go | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
but none could halt the decline. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
That is until six months ago, a new director was brought on | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
and he's taking the museum on a completely new course. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
But Stuart Gillis is not a boat enthusiast | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and he's just a fish out of water here. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
You've never put that on, have you? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
No, no! That's what Mike's trying to do, get me on here, you see. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
So he's not an old sea dog, is he? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
No, he's not. Definitely not yet, but he will be. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-Give him a bit of time. -I can't believe you've not put one on. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Mike, how do I do it? Because he's got me looking an idiot. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
He's not that well up on boats, is he? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
We're gradually getting him there. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Don't worry, we'll work on him. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
Of course, I always wear one of these when I'm on my word processor. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
Stuart might be a novice when it comes to boats, but he's | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
an expert on museums and knows how to turn failing ones around. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:26 | |
He thinks the only hope of the museum surviving | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
is if it moves with the times. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
Many of these museums were set up in the '70s when people could remember | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
their childhood in the '50s. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
But as you go forward by more than a generation now, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
that nostalgia for a childhood in the 1950s isn't there any more. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I don't think people are nostalgic for waterways in the same way. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
Do you mean it's not relevant to young people? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Yes, if we're going to make it relevant it won't be on nostalgia. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
We have to find something else to do it. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
Stuart knows these changes need to be made fast before it's too late. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
In the last year, the museum lost over £100,000. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
If this continues, the site might end up being sold off | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
and the museum disbanded. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
How grave a situation is the museum in? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Well, I think we're walking really close | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
to the edge, and it's one more step and you're into the abyss. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Some of these boats are the last of their kind. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
If the museum does close, many are likely to be scrapped. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
John is the boatyard foreman and he has | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
the depressing job of pumping these boats out on a daily basis. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
What happens is because they're kept with no load in them, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
all the seams dry out. Because it sits above the water. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
And then when it does sink, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
there are that many holes in it, it's like a colander. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
John's angry because not much money has been spent on saving | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
these unique old vessels. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
He takes me inside the island warehouse to show me | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
where the money has been spent. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
These things here, they're fine, they're modern and that. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
When they work. It's just not working. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
This is the centrepiece of the museum. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
It's a swish, new exhibition hall which cost around £300,000. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
So what is it you don't like about this area? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
Basically, what they did was gutted it. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
All the cases and the cabinets had beautiful displays in, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
they were just smashed up. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Just taken out and replaced with this...MDF. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
What's that? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
What is it? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
There you go, exactly. What is it? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
There's no explanation of what it is. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
It's not actually been finished off. It's a circular weir. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
The reason it was here, there was going to be a projector with water | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
running down the hole... Well, you can see the projector, can't you? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
This stove and the lights and all the little bits of brass | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
and some of these bits of Measham ware and that. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
But they were all in a perfect, full-size replica of a cabin | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
that anybody could see, if you were disabled or anything | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and couldn't get on a boat you could see it. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
You could see what was actually inside them. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
Now, that's what we've got. I think it's abysmal, I really do. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
John believes if anyone can save the museum, it's the new director, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
Stuart Gillis. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Do you think Stuart has been good for the museum? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
I think he's brilliant. Yes, absolutely spot on. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
If anyone will make a difference, I think Stuart will. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Stuart has won the staff and volunteers over | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
with his boundless energy. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
He's on a relentless quest to raise the profile of the museum. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
There was leadership in this. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
There was leadership from us, from me, from the staff. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
But there was leadership too from this volunteer group | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
and I began to change my view on what volunteers were. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
He's identified projects which need investment and wants | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
to get potential funders on board. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
The focus on skills and community | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
as outcomes in themselves and that we could use the restoration of heritage | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
as a vehicle to build skills | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
and build our relationship with the community. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
What this has developed into | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
is the initiative that we're now calling the Heritage Boatyard. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Stuart's vision for a Heritage Boatyard is an ambitious project. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
But this audience of directors from museums around the country love it. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Based in a disused area at the back of the museum, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
it's going to be a fully functioning restoration workshop. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-It's the last hope for these listing vessels. -What did you hear then? | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Look, something... | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
SQUEAKING | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-Did you hear that click? -No. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Doesn't sound very healthy, does it? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-Have you met the new director? -Yes. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Do you think he's doing a good job? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
I think he's an excellent man, the right man for the job. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Definitely, definitely. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
New blood into the museum with fresh ideas, if you like. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
If these ailing boats are to be saved, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Stuart needs an army of people to work on them happily for no pay. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
So he's launching a recruitment drive for volunteers. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
One of the first to come forward is a former engineer called Paul. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
Well, my real interest is engineering. I'm an engines man. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
I'm really keen on Gardner diesels which is my ideal restoration job. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
We'll be getting in touch with you very, very, very soon. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-Let's see how we can do this. -I'll look forward to this. -Thank you. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
A week after this, Paul is stationed in the power hall | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
where he imparts his knowledge of engines to visitors. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Straight to the propeller which is out there. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Three arms and that goes steadily round, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
forwards, backwards depending on which way the blades face. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
And really, this gives him ultimate control. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
The power hall is a noisy, smelly place with over 20 working engines. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
Some of the oldest are Gardners, which powered the canal boats. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
The volunteer in charge is called Dave. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Dave has a team of about six other volunteers around him | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
and it's a close-knit bunch. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
We're working on a Magirus, Magirus Deutz. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
OK, you can start it rolling and I'll tell you what we're doing. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
We're restoring engines to make funds for the museum. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
This is a manifold. We check that things like this are true. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
So we're cleaning up the manifold... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
I get the impression Paul's knowledge of engines is being | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
questioned by his colleague. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
It's a two-stroke which is air-cooled, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
very much like your motorbike. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
It has fins and Lee has taken off the cylinders | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
with all the fins on, which we're familiar with, which air-cool. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
Oh, Phil. Sorry, Phil. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
We know each other so well. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
This component here... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Are we OK? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
..Is a blower. If I hold it up you can see that there's | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
what you might think a jet engine. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
It's propelling cold air through a hot engine | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and the hot air then emerges. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
If we move on to another part we're restoring... If you cut. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
You know if I go like that, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
you know that I'm going to stop and give you a gap. All right? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Makes it easier for you. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Does it? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
So this is the air intake filter. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
This part, of course, we all know as the car alternator which generates | 0:13:55 | 0:14:01 | |
typically 40 amps at 12 volts. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Specifically, I'm a light engineer | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
so it's not just engines with me, it is clocks, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
it is buses, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
up to a certain weight of engineering. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
I don't go into building bridges out of steel. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I'm not Brunel, I wish I were. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Volunteers are one way of saving money but the only real way | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
of saving the museum is getting more visitors in through the doors. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Most days, you could count on a few narrow boats through the locks. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Have you noticed all the girls drive the boats? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-Yes. -All the steel - very difficult to wreck! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-See you later. -And you. I think there are about another ten coming. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-I think about probably seven coming. -OK. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
You're doing that with Marigolds? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Yes, cos I work with wedding dresses. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
It ruins my hands if I get my hands all ruined on the boat. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
So I always have to have my gardening gloves. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Today, boats are congregating | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
at the Waterways Museum for the Easter bank holiday festival. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Stuart Gillis thinks big events aimed at families | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
is the way to boost income. This event, over two days, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
celebrates the history of the waterways. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
It's attracted 60 boats from all over the country. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Stuart is here with his wife and three sons. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Dad, look. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
What can you see down there? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
-Cheese. -You can see cheese? Where? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-No. -No, we haven't got any cheese on this barge. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
They live in Norfolk and since taking this job | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
at Ellesmere Port, Stuart has been enduring a 300-mile commute. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
It's called the Billet Arm, this section. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
But there is getting less and less of it... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Festival-goers on Mel's guided tour of the Shropshire Union Canal | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
are benefiting from her knowledge of the waterways. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
This used to belong to | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
the Wolverhampton Corrugated Iron Company. And they came here in 1905. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Here is the swan, perfectly on time, on her nest. I love it. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
I bet that's the dad on the nest, you know. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
The poor mummy's been sitting on the nest all this time and now | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
she's hatched them all out the dad is still sitting there doing...all! | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
You all have to pull against everyone else. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
For the first time since I arrived at the museum, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
I get a real sense of the boating community coming together. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
Over the two days, the place is packed out with visitors. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
It's a money-spinning success. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
But these images of optimism and celebration | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
are masking a darker reality that I am only just getting to know about. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
For many years, there's been bad feeling between the workers | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
here and the museum's owners. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
The first time I learn about this is when filming in the museum shop. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
The receptionist, Marge, has been | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
here for 25 years, but she's just been made redundant by Stuart. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
She is one of 20 to go - that's over half the workforce. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
It's been a sad time, hasn't it, this past few months, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
as we've done that. And I say "we", | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
you know, it's me that's done that. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
And people like Marge are a real loss to us. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Yes, but the thing is, Stuart, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
you seem to be blaming yourself, but it's not you. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
It's... for quite a few years - | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
and when I say senior, senior management - | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
you know, they seem to have lost the plot where... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
It is, though, Stuart. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
They have. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
I think you've got to toughen up. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
You know, and stand your ground. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-If you believe in something, you stand your ground. -Right. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
And don't let certain people | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
-walk over you. -I'm dying to know who you mean. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-Well, I think you've got a good idea. But still. -Yeah. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Marge is not the only person unhappy with the museum's senior management. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
The volunteer, Mike Turpin, is also disenchanted. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Do you feel that the museum has been neglected? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
It's clearly been neglected. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
For quite a long time. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-Do you feel confident that it can be saved? -Oh yeah. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
One way or the other. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
We'll either save it bit by bit, or there'll be a big explosion | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
and we'll save it in some way. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
-What you mean by "a big explosion"? -No comment! | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
You mean like some sort of mutiny or something? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-You can put words in my mouth if you like. -Well, I'm only trying to... | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Why do you say "no comment"? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Because a lot of these things don't take place in public, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
the sort of thing these things are. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Volunteers like Mike are all part of a group | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
called the Boat Museum Society. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
And the branch manager of that at Ellesmere is Steve Stamp. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
He doesn't mince his words when talking about the senior management. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
The Waterways Trust, in my view, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
have failed over many years to manage this place correctly. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Do you see eye to eye with the board of trustees? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
No. I don't, truthfully. There wasn't the money and wasn't the staff, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
but it wasn't being spent properly, it wasn't being managed properly. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
There wasn't a plan, there wasn't a strategy. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
I see it as being a dead hand over the site, if you like. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
These accusations of neglect are aimed at the Waterways Trust. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
But when the Trust took over 11 years ago, the boats were already | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
rotting and visitor numbers were at rock bottom. Since then, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
a campaign has been spearheaded by the Chief Executive, Roger Hanbury. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
We need to make it absolutely clear that we need help to get there | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and we haven't got the resources to buy in to do it. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
And what resources we can buy in have got to be focused here. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Since coming on board, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
Stuart has got the backing for all his changes from these trustees. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
But he's identified another key ingredient which will help | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
to save the museum - the appointment of a general manager. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
I'll certainly be much more comfortable when I know there's | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
somebody here who really feels | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
they've got day-to-day responsibility for managing the volunteers, managing | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
the members of staff, who are knowledgeable but need leadership. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
And also deal with the safe operation of the site. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
I agree with you absolutely, Roger, 100 per cent. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
You have to have a general manager for all those reasons. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
Stuart wants the general manager to work alongside him | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
in the battle to save the museum | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
and he thinks it's crucial to the museum's success. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
The position is advertised a few days later and it catches | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
the eye of one of the staff. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Are you OK to hear me at the back, by the way? My name is Melissa. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
I always forget to tell people. And we're on board the Centaur, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
so I'm supposed to welcome you. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
There are loads of bridges here. This is one of the first ones we go under. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Mel thinks she has the necessary attributes for the job. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
"Our mission is to enrich people's lives through waterways. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
"We work in partnership with organisations to realise benefits." | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
"Leading the site management team, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
"you'll oversee services and operations. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
"A challenge that involves managing resources, budgets and staff." | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Which is all very well, but then if you've got the staff, but you haven't | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
got the budgets to play round with. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
And managing resources, if it's all swallowed up from above, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
then you can't do anything any better, can you? I don't think. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
See, this is why I never got very high in management, cos I just can't | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
keep my mouth shut! It's true! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
At the earliest opportunity, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
she grabs Stuart and tells him she'll be applying for the job. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Can I have a word? -Of course you can, yeah. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
I am dead interested in the general manager's position. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
I really, really want it. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I'm on my day off today, which is why I'm so scruffy. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-What are you doing, then? -I'm doing some volunteer gardening. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-Oh, great. -Cos I love gardening. But the thing is, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
I just think I have enough motivation and enthusiasm to be | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
a good manager. I think I have excellent... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
Mel thinks she will make a committed leader, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
with the museum's best interests at heart. And a week later, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
she's invited to Stuart's office for a meeting. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
I think he's going to tell me I've absolutely | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
no chance and they're not going to give me an interview. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
-That's what I think. -Have a seat. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Thank you very much for putting in an application | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
for the general manager. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
But we've not shortlisted you for it. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
We had 39 applications. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
We'll be interviewing six of them on Tuesday. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
I think there are lots of people that have just come and gone. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
And what I think they really need in a management position is longevity. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
All right. I'm sorry that... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-No, you're not! -..it's not better news for you. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
No, you're not, cos you could have given me an interview. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Then you wouldn't have had to be sorry. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
The interviews for the general manager position | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
will be held in a few weeks. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
Stuart needs someone who can keep the museum running smoothly while | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
he wrestles with the bigger issue of getting more people to visit it. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
People like this couple, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
who have been on the water for the last 12 months. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
It's just like a mobile home, floating around on the water! | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
Today, the only people who use the canals are pleasure cruisers. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
But in the mid-18th and 19th centuries, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
over 2,000 miles of canals | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
and the network of ports were built to aid the industrial revolution. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
One of the things the Waterways Trust did when it took over | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
was link Ellesmere Port up with two other museums | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
in Northamptonshire and Gloucester. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
The Gloucester one may have to close later this year. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Stuart has come to Gloucester for a make-or-break meeting with the museum's volunteers. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
But first, he introduces me to the deputy manager, Doreen. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
There was a manager there, there was a curatorial there, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
there was two educational posts there. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
And we still do have, right at the bottom there, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
a very part-time site services person who changes the light bulbs for us. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
-And empties bins, at the moment! -But everyone else has gone? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
We have lost virtually everybody on this side of the office. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
It's amazing that the organisation can still function. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Erm... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
With a lot of enthusiasm and determination, I think, yes. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Gloucester is losing more money than Ellesmere | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
and Stuart had to cut jobs here, too, just to keep the place afloat. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
It's very hard to come up from as low as we've got. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
The position that we're in, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
with the staffing levels that we've got. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
You know, it's a hard climb back up. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
Gloucester looks quite a modern museum | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
and it should be a great family attraction. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
But it's still failing and while I'm filming, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
I see more boat enthusiasts than visitors. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
That's a lovely noise - a real engine running. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
It makes me think about what Stuart told me | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
when I first started filming. The museums are out of touch. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
The enthusiasts are very proud of their museum. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
If you want to come down the other end, I'm going to fire the boiler. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
Their most prized exhibit is an old steam dredger, used in maintaining | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
the canal systems. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
I'm going to light the boiler now. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-You're going to what? -Going to light the boiler. -Right. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
It takes 20 minutes to start up. This boat sunk in the '70s, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
but was completely restored by a group of volunteers. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Despite the great work of volunteers have done here, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
their enthusiasm alone does not make the museum viable. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Stuart has called them all together | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
for a frank chat about Gloucester's future. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
The museum, you don't need me to tell you this, you know it. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
The museum has been spiralling down for a period of time. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
In the year that's just finished, the museum cost | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
roughly £100,000 more to run than it was budgeted to do. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Something has to give in this. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
You can't spend more money than you've got. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
There is no reason to close museums. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
What we've got to do, in this country, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
we've got to re-educate people. They're walking away. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
This isn't just a little thing in Gloucester, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
this is part of a huge network. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
This was a vital part of the economic growth of the country. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I understand the cutbacks and the financial constrictions there. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
But is there still aspirations to have a National Waterways Museum? | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
-Yeah. -Well, you cut Gloucester, you get rid of £100,000 loss | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
a year, or whatever, is that the message that's coming through? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Because if it is, we're purely local. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
But if there's a national aspiration, I'd like to know about it, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
because we need to build that in somewhere with what we're doing. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Right. The concept of a National Waterways Museum | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
I think is really valid. It doesn't follow that you need three. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
And I think we've got muddled in trying to keep | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
three National Waterways Museums. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
And I think that what we need to move towards is that Ellesmere Port | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
is the National Waterways Museum. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Has anybody ever calculated the man-hours that have gone into | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
keeping this museum open? | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Are we're going to throw all that away? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
We are where we are. And nobody wants to see the museum closed. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
Nobody wants to see that. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
One very simple question. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Where's the money come from? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
I don't know. I don't. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
There... There's a real challenge around the money. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:14 | |
I know we've got lower costs, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
because we've lost so many people in the last year. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
And that's getting us nearer to being able to balance the books. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
I don't have the answer for where the money's going to come from. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Stuart is suggesting Gloucester opts out | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
of the National Waterways Museum. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
If it does, it will lose some key funding and its future | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
will be even more dependent on the goodwill of these volunteers. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
He knows that by sacrificing Gloucester, Ellesmere Port | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
has a greater chance of survival. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
He's a pragmatist in a world of sentimentality. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
-It's a bit like a graveyard for boats here. -Yeah, it is a graveyard. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
It is. And there is that strand of museums that is like that. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
And sometimes you kind of go with that flow and maybe you do | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
acknowledge that you do have an area that is a graveyard, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
and you allow some things to rot back into nature. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
And there's something that's quite right in doing that. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
You know, accepting our own mortality. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
That's partly what's going on in museums. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
So in other words, it's not always right to restore something? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
It's not always right to restore something. It might be right to say, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
sorry, but this one's too far gone, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
it's got to go, there's nobody else to take it on, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
we're going to burn it, we're going to bury it, we're going to sink it. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
Something like that. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
So accepting that things live and things die | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
is something we've all got to get our head round. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
It is Ellesmere Port that Stuart is keen to keep alive. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
That's why he's been pushing for a heritage boatyard | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
and the appointment of a general manager. On the interview day, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
the shortlist of candidates are given a tour of the site. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
They're shown the areas of decay and concern. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
But it is the activity, the personal touch and that's what, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
as volunteers, we can very much help to try and bring. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
The successful candidate needs to show they can be customer-focused | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
and know how to improve the visitor experience. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Stuart has found the money for this new position | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
by making some people redundant and taking on more volunteers. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
One of those, the new recruit Paul | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
is still helping out in the power hall. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Watch your feet here because this is very slippery. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
I don't want an accident. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
You'll step onto some slimy stuff. Be careful. Follow me. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
We're going into the shed where we store all the things which we will, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
in future years, have the time, the money and the expertise... | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
to restore. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
This, please come and look... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
I sense a bit of an atmosphere with the other volunteer, Phil. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
The engineer's rule of thumb, and we've got gloves on, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
look at the dipstick. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
It doesn't smell bad. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
If it starts being smelly, it means it's been neglected. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Paul is particularly fond | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
of the volunteer in charge of the power hall, Dave Crosby. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
Dave is a modest man who has been noted by the Queen | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
for his services, or should be. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
He's been here 18 years and he's done 18 engines | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and what he hasn't done, I don't know. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
He is wonderful, isn't he? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Well, I think so! | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Dave Crosby. Come and see him. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
-Super Dave. -Come and see him. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
He's known as Bing, Bing Crosby. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Paul's admiration for Dave Crosby is not reciprocated. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
In fact, Dave has decided he doesn't want Paul in the power hall any more | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
and complains to the boatyard foreman, John Moore. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
I just think he's a very dangerous man. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
-Dangerous? -Yes, yes. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Cos he can do everything, somebody might check him at his word | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
and go and start that, for instance. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
But he's an expert on the Gardner, isn't he? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
-No! Is he buggery. -Is he not? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-You've got to know what you're doing. -Yes. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
The engine Dave's working on at the moment, it's an air-cooled engine | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
similar to this one, but it's got a big fan on the end. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Now, I know it's just a cooling fan and Dave knows it's a cooling fan | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
but Paul said it was the turbo, didn't he? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
-Turbocharger. -A turbocharger. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
The bad feeling around Paul intensifies over the next few days, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
and in the end, the museum's director has to intervene. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Stuart recruited Paul, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
but now there's pressure on him to let him go. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
-Come in, Paul. -Hi. Hello, Richard. -Hello. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
The reason I wanted to meet you | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
was so that I could get your perspective on where we were. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
I think I had an unfortunate experience | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
in joining Dave Crosby in the power hall... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
-Right, OK. -...and being a Yorkshireman, I do tend to say | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
things sometimes which in retrospect I perhaps would have retracted. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
But he obviously felt that I didn't fit in. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Maybe it's a case of a bit of keeping your head down here for a little bit, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
getting on and doing a particular job, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
doing it as well as you possibly can. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
There'll be the best chance here that if you can contribute | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
and your contribution can stand up, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
then in that way you're proving yourself, not to me, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
but proving yourself to other people about, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and let's just see what happens when we get to there. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:35 | |
-Well... -The ceiling's all right. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
I don't think that needs doing, does it? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
Actually, don't bother with dust sheets. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
If we get something on this carpet, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
it's not a problem because it's got no... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
The thing in this room that's got no future is the carpet. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
-No future at this museum. -OK. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
This episode with Paul shows me another side to the new director. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Stuart believes the museum is as much about the people within it | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
as the objects it has on display. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
Magnolia. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Which is...sort of a creamy off-white. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:11 | |
Strangely enough, I don't really like decorating, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
but I think this is nice because when the room's done, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
I'll be able to say, well, whatever the boat museum has got, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
it's got a decent room decorated | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
and a few other things done. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Ah, the weather's taken a turn for the worse again. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
I'm glad I'm not outside. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-Is it raining? -It is. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
In some ways it would have been easier | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
for Stuart and Paul to just part company. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
But he tells me he learnt as a young man | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
the importance of perseverance when he dropped out of college | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
and took a job selling burgers. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Just to feel part of a team, people can look down at McDonald's | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
and things, but you're part of a team when you start off there. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
There's not many opportunities for 16, 17, 18-year-olds | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
to feel part of a team. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
It's something that we need and...I got it at McDonald's, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
I got something really positive out of it. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
I then stayed much too long with McDonald's. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
I got promoted a few times. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
But I stayed much too long, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
partly because I needed to prove to myself that I was a sticker. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
So you kind of stayed for the wrong reasons? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
I don't know if they were the wrong reasons. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
I can look back on it now and see that, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
but maybe I needed to prove I was a sticker at something | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
because I had to learn to be a sticker at something. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
# I wish that I could fall in love today | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
# But memories of you stand in my way... # | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
After a year in the job, Stuart has shaken the place up. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
He suggested dropping Gloucester and made a lot of redundancies, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
but visitor numbers are on now the increase. It's only | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
the heritage boatyard that's still waiting to get off the ground. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
In this plan is a breakthrough because this is a much wider | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
regeneration and it now includes these areas. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
Because Stuart has made these difficult decisions, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
he's won the respect of the staff and volunteers. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
They wholeheartedly see him as the saviour of the museum. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
-Sorry, but I... -That's not what you said a minute ago. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
-What? -You was getting real twitchy... | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Spirit are high one morning when he calls John Moore, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
the boatyard foreman, and his two other duty managers together | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
for an important announcement. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Listen. I need to tell you... | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
I'll be, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I'll be giving in my notice. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
I won't be, I'll be leaving at about the end August. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
-Yes? -I think, yes. And... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
I've told the museum management board today | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
and I wanted to let, I wanted to let you... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
..know that too. Roger will send out an e-mail on that one. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Right. So... | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Thanks. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Fair enough. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:30 | |
Go on, then. Tell us why. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
What it was for me was we were getting to... | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
a few months ago and setting the budget for the year... | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
And I've set out that we need these posts, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
general manager, learning manager, marketing manager, collections. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
And we've found a way to go forward with the general manager. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
But we've not got a way to go forward with the others. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
The salary I'm on can buy more than one post. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
But you're the glue that ties all that lot together. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
It'll just fall on its arse. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
Once again a good person has fallen foul | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
of the bloody useless shower of bastards running TWT. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
You're the best thing that's happened in here | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
for a bloody long time, Stuart. You really are. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
We actually had hope that there was somebody here | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
who knew what they were talking about and was keen. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
I was spouting off to people yesterday | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
just how bleeding good you were. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Once again it's that shower of bastards at the top | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
that have screwed it up. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
Because you can't work miracles with sod all | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
and you're being given sod all once again. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-It's bloody hopeless. -You're going to take some time to... | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
It will end up on its arse because you're just not going to get... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
Don't take it wrong, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
but people like you don't come along that often here. They really don't. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
I'm surprised at just how angry John and Jim feel | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
about Stuart's announcement, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
but they have been thrown by what he has told them. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
In truth, I think the management has been trying to help the museums. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
Roger Hanbury campaigned to get government funding | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
for the Waterways. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:13 | |
This would mean he could give free entry to visitors. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
But in the end, the government said no. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
I can't see that we can get the resource necessary. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
If I'm working in a situation where I know something's impossible, then... | 0:39:22 | 0:39:28 | |
..that's not, that's not positive. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
And those sorts of things can affect your health, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
it can affect you in all sorts of other ways too. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
The things that people think I can bring to the party right now, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
then I'm not able to bring to the party | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
because it's affecting me in other ways. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
If I've lost belief in it, in those ways. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
It'll sour the way that I am too. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
All right, I'm going back in now. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
I get the feeling Stuart is disillusioned. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
He thinks the museum cannot afford to keep him on | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
and improve at the same time. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
The news of Stuart's resignation | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
spreads quickly around Ellesmere Port. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
People feel devastated by it. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Many think that all his good work will now be undone. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
You don't think it's going to serve the museum well? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
It's a complication I think we could all have done without. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
You can say trite things like every cloud has a silver lining | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
and things like that, but... | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
it's a complication we could do without. I'll leave it at that. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
It's not just staff and volunteers | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
who fear for the museum now Stuart is leaving. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
At the next board meeting, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
some trustees think his departure could spell disaster for the museum. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
Could I ask Stuart to leave the room for a minute | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
because I would like to say something which could affect him? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
-Just for a minute. -Er...all right. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
We'll give you a shout, then, in a minute. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
I would like to propose that we seek to retain Stuart | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
as an adviser or consultant for a period | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
after he leaves us, just to help us over this particular...period. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:24 | |
Seeing Stuart go now will send out all the wrong messages, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
so I think that what John's opposing has a lot of merit. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
In my view, I think Stuart has shown incredible leadership | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
for the museums which we haven't had for a long time. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:41 | |
From the museum's point of view with his knowledge and background, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
his depth of knowledge and ability, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
I think we should review it later in the period to see if... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I think this is a totally flawed idea. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
I think we treat him as a friend, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
but to engage him as a consultant would be fundamentally flawed. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Not necessarily as a consultant, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
but find some way of carrying on that vision on. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
-Be we are doing that. -I think we'll do that, Chris. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
I think it would put the fear of God into Stuart | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
if the word "saviour" has been used about him, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
which is extremely uncomfortable, actually. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
I think we've got enough wit about us to manage the next steps effectively. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
Can someone find Stuart and ask him to return? | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Then we'll get on with the chief executive board. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-Thanks for raising it, John. -Thank you. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Right at the top of this organisation, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Stuart's decision to leave is causing debate, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
and I'm fascinated to see how the museum fares now that he's going. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
Already the signs are bad. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
It's not good to have change all the time. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
There's uncertainty come back where we thought | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
we were in a stable situation, and that's the difficulty. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
Everyone's hacked off because they've had so many managers | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
in the last few years. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
They're here for like a year, and then they leave. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
Then you've got another person who's got to start all over again | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
and then they get fed up and they go elsewhere. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
It seems to be a catalogue of disasters. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
It'll have to end one way or another. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
At the moment, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
I should think it's going to end with the museum closing. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
It's against this backdrop of anxiety | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
that the new general manager takes up his post. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
John Inch does not have a background in boats or museums, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
he's a cinema manager. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
-Is it flushing all right? -Sorry? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
-Is it flushing all right? -Oh, yeah. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
The standard check is you test the flushes, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
you test the lot works and you make sure there's paper there. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
That's the drill. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
We have more trouble with the ladies than we do with the gents. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
John Inch is not replacing Stuart. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
Stuart is an ambassador for the museum | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
on a constant charm offensive, chatting up potential fundraisers. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
John Inch's job will be much more to sort out the day-to-day problems and | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
he knows it's going to be difficult with the museum's lack of money. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
There's a lot can be done | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
and I think the difficulty is it's the resources we have. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
There's less than a dozen people actually working here. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
We have sort of 80, 90 volunteers. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
But some of those volunteers may only be here | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
one day a month, one day a fortnight. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
So therefore, I think we've got a huge amount to do, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
but we struggle from not necessarily having the resources | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
to put it all in place as quickly as we would like. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
One volunteer in particular is proving a sensitive issue. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
John Inch will need to deal with Paul, once Stuart has | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
finished his few weeks' notice. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
OK. Wood primer... | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
-The task is, the back room. -The back gate. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
He is still painting for Stuart, away from the other volunteers. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
Let's move on. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
And wire brush. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Whatever you're sanding, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
sand with the grain. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
If you go across, it just roughs it all up and it looks awful. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
At the heart of Stuart's vision for the museum lies the community. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:18 | |
Paul is an example of this policy in action. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
I like the way he gave me two brushes, which, of course, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
is the way to do it. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:25 | |
Really make the most of it. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
It isn't a Rolls-Royce job. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
Man-management isn't everyone's cup of tea. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
The problems with any voluntary organisation | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
or any organisation of any size is the interpersonal relationships. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
That's what is really bugging any organisation. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
HORN BEEPS Bye. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
Typical. No seat belt and a fag in her hand. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
This would be the last time I see Paul. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
He left the museum a few weeks after Stuart. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
It's two weeks since Stuart announced his resignation. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
The mood around the place is still very sombre | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
and tensions are now beginning to appear. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
A small fire breaks out on the 85-year-old cargo boat, Ferret. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
Evidently, it began when two volunteers | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
tried to start up the engine during a weekend event. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
John Moore, the boatyard foreman, had to write a report on it. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
There was no actual fire damage. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
It was just the fact there was a fire and you know, | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
there's nothing to see, really. You can have a look. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
It says, "Do not start, there's a leak on the injector." | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
So, it was the fuel on the cylinder head that went on fire. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
There was no damage done. None at all. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
It was only a minor incident, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
but a meeting is called between the staff and volunteers. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
John Moore can't make it, but Stuart is chairing | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
and his duty manager Jim was in charge on the day. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
My understanding is that they have run the engine before. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
The leader of the Boat Museum Society, Steve Stamp, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
is angry John Moore's report points a finger at a volunteer. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
Have you talked to any of the volunteers who were involved? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
Have they contributed to the report? | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
I've only just seen this report, right now. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
That seems fundamental to me, to go back to the guys who were involved. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
Have we not done that? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:25 | |
John's investigated it, I haven't. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
There's a bit of slopey shoulders here. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
Have we been to the people who had the accident? | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
I don't know. I've not read it. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
That was the strategy. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
What time did this take place? | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
I've no idea, absolutely no idea. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
We'll get there in the investigation. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
John Inch must be wondering what he's let himself in for. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
I think the danger of this, I would consign this piece of paper | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
to the wastepaper bin of history. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
This is a witch hunt. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
A witch hunt seems a very serious accusation. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
A few days later, Steve Stamp challenges John Moore about it. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
It doesn't tell me what happened. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
It tells me what you think happened. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
-Well, it... -It tells what you think happened. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
What it says, right, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
is what I was told happened by the people who were there. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:15 | |
I'd like to see the horse's mouth. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
All you've got to do is go and ask them. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
That's what we should do. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:22 | |
But I did it. I went and asked. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
What you're making is it's like a witch hunt, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
is the expression I heard had been used. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
No, It isn't. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
Did it bother you that he heard it was described as a witch hunt? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
No, not really. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Was it described as a witch hunt? | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Well, apparently, that was a word | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
that was used to describe it at the meeting. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
The other thing about this is, as you move to change things, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
you've got to have a mutual respect operating. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
I've got to be able to believe that I can say witch hunt | 0:48:59 | 0:49:04 | |
and it's not misconstrued by people as a witch hunt. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
I'm not entirely sure what Steve means. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
Do you feel people like the head volunteers, like Mike and Steve, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
do you think they appreciate what you do? | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
No, to be perfectly honest... | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
I shouldn't really say, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
but I think they'd probably be happy if I wasn't here. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
-Really? -Oh, Christ, aye. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
-I get in the way. -Do you? In their eyes? | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
Yeah, I think so, yeah. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Because I won't bow down and do what they want to do, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
you know what I mean? I've actually got a brain. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
I've got an opinion. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
It doesn't go down very well. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
At the start of filming, I learnt about bad feeling that has existed | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
for many years between the workers and the senior management. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
This bad feeling is returning | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
now that Stuart's departure is imminent. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
So Stuart orders an emergency meeting | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
with all the staff and volunteers. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
On this occasion, rather than saying he's leaving | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
because the museum can't afford to keep him on, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
he's got another reason for going. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
My news is that... | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
I've been offered a new job in Derby, as head of museums. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:29 | |
I'll be taking up that job. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
Stuart tries to rally everyone in the room. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
There's a lot of misunderstanding about why I'm going. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
Nobody's pushing me to go. This is a choice I've made. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
People were saying, "We wanted you to stay longer." | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
I'd have loved to stay longer, I really would have, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
but we can't afford to do everything. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
There are things we need that are a priority right now. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
Nobody's giving up and if there's any talk from us here | 0:50:56 | 0:51:02 | |
of anyone beyond which is, well, "We're back where we started from," | 0:51:02 | 0:51:07 | |
and, "They're going to close us at the end of the year." | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
If there's any of that talk, it's absolute rubbish. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
Don't let any defeatist talk come in on this place, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
because this place is set up and you need to take it on | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
and there needs to be other posts coming in, that will now come in, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
that will take it on further there, too. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
I totally understand any thoughts you might have right now. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:33 | |
I'm not walking away from this place. This place has got to flourish. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
Over the next few weeks, the mood fails to improve. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
Just the boat, they've created quite a lot of damage, actually. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
They've broken the lights and they've trashed the toilet area. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
As a bad omen, one evening, the tour boat Centaur | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
is broken into and vandalised. New manager John Inch | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
identifies some youths on the closed-circuit television. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
I would say late teens, yeah. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
There's a lot of them around. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:08 | |
-They're going back that way. -Oh, yeah. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
The boatyard foreman John Moore, is driven to distraction | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
by the damage to his boats | 0:52:15 | 0:52:16 | |
and he vents his frustration on some teenagers. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
Come on! | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
Amid the problems caused by the fire and the break-in, I | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
noticed the workers are beginning to revise their opinions about Stuart. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
I keep thinking we were quite happy with him because | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
we thought he was a stayer and now, of course, he's leaving. So... | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
Now he's leaving, you think everything has changed? | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Possibly. Because he's not really doing | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
what he said he was going to do when he first arrived, I presume. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
The atmosphere in the museum is beginning to affect Stuart too, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
who now only has days left to work. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
At this point, there's probably a tendency | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
for certain people to see the worst things about me | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
and for me not to see the best things about them. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
I'm not convinced of... | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
how much I'm adding by being here at this moment. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:12 | |
And it's not just, am I adding, but actually, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
am I a potentially negative factor? | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
It grieves me to think that might be the case. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
In his last week, a leaving party is held for Stuart. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
Despite the celebrations, I notice not everyone is there. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
He's giving people the impression, like, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
that he's fallen on his sword for the good of the cause. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
One or two of us don't see it that way any more. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
He's saying that the writing's on the wall | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
or he's never going to get what he needs, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
so he's just looking after number one. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
He's just moving on, looking after himself. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
Stuart was regarded as the saviour of the museum, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:02 | |
but that no longer seems the case. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
Hello, you're through to the former phone of Stuart Gillis. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
Please redial the museum | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
on 0151 355 5017. Thank you. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
As he leaves his office for the last time, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
I feel a bit sorry for Stuart. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
After all the good work he's done for the museum, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
he should be leaving on a high, but it doesn't feel that way. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
I'm half expecting things to go from bad to worse at the museum | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
once Stuart has left, but that's not what happens. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
People move on. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
Visitor numbers remain on the up. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
At the end of summer, a festival aimed at attracting | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
young people to the museum is a huge success. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
Then three months after Stuart left the National Waterways Museum, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
I'm invited back to Ellesmere Port to film a momentous occasion. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
His dream of creating a heritage boatyard | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
for the museum's sunken boats is at last coming alive. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
It's a bloody good day, actually. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
It's a marvellous day. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
I sound like Churchill now, the beginning of the end. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
We're through the worst. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
The first of many ailing vessels | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
is being lifted out of the water to be restored. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
It is the beginning of something new for the museum. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
-It's about creating new jobs. -Yep. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
We're looking to recruit a new supervisor. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
We're looking to have some boatyard assistants starting in the New Year. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
It's about our plans as far as being part of the community | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
and assisting with education. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Everyone at Ellesmere Port seems convinced | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
the museum now has a bright future. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
The future of its sister museum in Gloucester | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
has still not been decided upon. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
Everybody, I want one person on the rope either end - only one - | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
that's all you need. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:05 | |
Just move yourself way back from the boat. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
-It's rather symbolic. -It is very symbolic. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
-You must be very pleased. -It's pretty good. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
We haven't seen this for a little while | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
and we'll see more of it in the future. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
I'm pleased. I'm pleased the boats are coming out | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
and we're going to do some work. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
We'll get there. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
At last, the irresistible force of decay is being stemmed. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:35 | |
CHEERING | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
# I was born by the river | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
# In a little tent | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
# Oh, and just like the river | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
# I've been running ever since | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
# It's been a long A long time coming | 0:57:08 | 0:57:14 | |
# But I know a change is gonna come | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
# Oh, yes it will... # | 0:57:21 | 0:57:22 | |
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