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I feel like we're on the best chat show ever. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Have you had fun on this episode, gang? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
I've hated every second. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
Really? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
-Have YOU had fun on this episode? -Yeah, I have. -All right, good. -Lots of fun. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
Oh, hurrah. Well, thanks for being the worst interviewees ever. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
It's good to be back, making Dr Who, isn't it? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
We didn't speak to each other over Christmas. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
For a whole day over Christmas. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
We all said the other day, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
we had that thought of going, "I should probably text... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
"Nah." | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
I was really sick just before New Year. I had that... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
There's been this bug going around | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
and I lost half a stone, puked it all up. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
Which... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-is a little revealing for Confidential, I suppose. -What is this interview? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
It's cool, it's kind of free-and-easy. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
-Yeah, I quite like it. -It's never going to make the show. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
We know these types of interviews never make the show. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
It's November 2010 and the cast, executive producers | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
and show writer have gathered at the Dr Who studios to tackle the doubly hard episodes 5 and 6. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:34 | |
..Switch our brains around and call the real Doctor The Doctor. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
He was the other Doctor, now he's The Doctor. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Let's call The Doctor the other Doctor, clear? God, I hope so. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
# I'm about to lose my mind | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
# You've been gone for so long | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
# I'm running out of time | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
# I need a doctor | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
# Call me a doctor | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
# I need a doctor, doctor... # | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
-Oh no! -# ..to bring me back to life. # | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
SCREAMING | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
The conclusion of this thrilling two-parter | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
began with the birth of a doctor and ended with the mystery of a birth. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
# I'm about to lose my mind | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
# I need a doctor | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
# Doctor to bring me... # | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
No, and why? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
Given what we've learned, I'll be as humane as I can, but I need to do this and you need to stand away. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
OK, so I've just been killed by The Doctor. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Oh, no... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And then I've woken up... | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
and I'm about to have a baby. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
I think it's generally quite shocking. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
I found that scene quite challenging, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
really challenging actually, because...how do you play that? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
You're not even real and somebody who you love and trust is looking | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
into your eyes and saying you are not real, I'm going to kill you now. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
I need to do this and you have to stand away. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
'I think that Amy just felt at the time that the two most important people in her life are turning | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
'on her, it's like that horrible feeling of betrayal' | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
and that kind of, I think, was really horrible for her. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I'm very frightened, like properly, properly scared. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Don't be, we're coming for you, I swear it. Whatever happens, however hard. However far. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
-I'm right here. -No. -I'm right here. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
You're not, and you haven't been here for a long, long time. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
I mean, it's just such a huge twist for Amy, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
the life of Amy Pond has taken a turn for the worst | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and she's about to give birth to a baby she didn't even know she was pregnant with. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
Well, dear, you're ready to pop, aren't you? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
One's on its way. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Well, this is a cliffhanger not just to this two-parter, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
but the whole series, cos it's changed everything we think we know. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
We think we've been looking at Amelia Pond as normal and we now discover that really hasn't been her at all. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
Well, it has been, it's been her mind, her heart, her soul, but it hasn't really been her, physically. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
The flesh Amy's been going through episodes one to six | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
and hanging out, having these adventures with The Doctor and Rory, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
while the real Amy's been trapped in this birthing chamber | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
with this strange eye-patch woman opening the hatch now and again, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
checking on her progress. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
The reason she's seen the eye-patch woman at strange moments | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
is because that reality has been seeping through into her mind. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
The flesh Amy that The Doctor zaps at the end with the Sonic | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
is absolutely not a real person. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
He's not killed Amy. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
He's simply cut off the telephone communication between the operator | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
and this flesh Amy that's in front of him. So it's like | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
snipping a wire and getting rid of a signal rather than actually doing her harm. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
Trust me. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:17 | |
I'm The Doctor. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Episode six presented a challenging double role for Matt Smith, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
with the story requiring him to play The Doctor twice. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Is that what you were thinking? Yes, it's just so inspiring to here me say it. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
Writing for two Doctors, interestingly, suits Matthew Smith's style of performance. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
He almost, even when he's just one Doctor, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
he almost feels to be finishing his own sentences. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
He's always interrupting himself and contradicting himself in mid-flow. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
He always says, "Do I say that? Do I mean that? Do I mean that?" | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
And he often is having this internal dialogue with himself. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-This is insane. -Yes, it's insane. And it's about to get even more insanerer. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
Is that a word? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
In a way, all you're doing is taking that internal dialogue | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
and making it external. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
I think the universe is definitely big enough for two Time Lords. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-Really? -Yeah. Well, there was loads of them at one point. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
-Yeah, I know, and it... -And isn't it always expanding? -Yeah. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Well, maybe, maybe. I mean... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-Would you like that? -To have two? -Yeah. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
You could have a friend or a foe... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-I've got a friend - you. -Yeah, but one who's not your, like... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-Basically the equivalent of a hamster. -Yeah! Is that what you are? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
Like one of your pets. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Shall I get you a little wheel in the TARDIS with one of those little... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
-Yeah! -That'd be funny. -One of those water things. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-And you as a person are quite hamster-like. -Do you think? -You're quite sort of... | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-nibbly. -Yeah, today I was. -You were having a right old nibble on your crackers. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
But I think one Doctor, cos it makes it tough for him... | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-One universe, one Doctor... -Yeah, for sure. -..one hamster. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-It is a really scary episode, I think. -I hope so. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
-We want this one to be scary, don't we? -Yeah. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
-It's fun to make the scary stuff. -Yeah. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
We've been filming here all week. It's our last day of filming. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
It's called Caerphilly Castle in Caerphilly. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
What they didn't tell us | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
while we were filming is that it's in fact haunted. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Ooooh! So, we're going to meet David now, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-who's going to basically tell us all about it. Hey, David. -Hello, David. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Hiya. Caerphilly Castle is haunted by the ghost of the Green Lady. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
And the story goes back to 1268. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
The castle was founded by a man called Gilbert de Clare, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
or Gilbert the Red, who had a lovely wife called Alice. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
And she fell in love with a local Welsh prince. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Gilbert was so upset about this, he banished her back to France. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
And he had the local Welsh prince killed. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
When she heard the news, she dropped down dead, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
literally dying of a broken heart. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
But it's funny, cos there's a moment in this script, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
which we're filming in this castle, where we all went, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
this is the moment in a horror film where you go, "Don't go down that corridor!" | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
-Just don't do it. -Just don't do it. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
PULSATING GROWL | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
Run. Run! RUN! | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
When writer Matthew Graham created the Flesh on paper, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
he knew his vision could only be | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
realised on screen by a combination of CGI and live-action filming. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
For rehearsal, and...action. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Confidential is in London with the man himself to check out progress. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
Very exciting, because it was a few months ago that I wrote this. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
So I have no idea what you've been doing | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
while I've been off doing other things. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-You've been beavering away in the dark. -Absolutely. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Well, first things first. This is some of the concept art we did. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Oh, lord. Is that done on computer? Is it designed on computer? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
-Yes, this was done in Photoshop. -Right, yes. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
So this was everyone chatting about | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
what they thought the creature would look like. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
The idea was to make it very white, maybe a bit transparent. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Lots of veins, and make it quite fleshy. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
I wanted that mixture of a real face and a completely alien body. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
I'm really looking forward to see how they're going to | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
put all the special effects together and everything. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
And to see how the monster is all created, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
and how the little dots on my face will be transformed into big, long, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
elongated jaws and things like that, and all my limbs extended. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
'I can't wait!' | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
I can grow! | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It might be nice to have a bit more sort of lateral movement. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
It is more kind of a side-to-side. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
-Like this? -Yes. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
We'll take the performance that we get of Jennifer, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
cos her performance is very much these bodily movements. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
And a slight awkwardness to the way that her body is moving. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
Which are all great traits which you can | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
sort of pull over into your CGI creation. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
And we'll take that as our inspiration and guide for the way | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
that we move and animate the CGI body that we're going to attach to her. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
I've just spent some time with Neil seeing how the Jennifer creature's animated, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
and I'm really excited now, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
cos this is going to be the semi-finished thing in situ. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
So, unleash the Jennifer creature. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
This door doesn't lock! | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Here we go. This is our set. This is a character called Dicken. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Don't go down that corridor, Dicken. I wouldn't, mate. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
He's going to try and close the door. Here she comes. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
The flashing amber lights, which have to be recreated. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
And this is a greyscale animation. Not finished yet. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Oh, my word! That is still pretty scary. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
She's getting closer. Get that door closed! | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Ah. I don't think that's going to end well. There's a sofa there. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
I'm going to go and hide behind it. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Email [email protected] | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 |