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# I realise maybe I was wrong to leave | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
# Swallow up my silly country pride | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
# Going home, rolling home | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
# Down to Gasoline Alley Where I was born | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
# Going home and I'm rolling home | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
# Down to Gasoline Alley... # | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Rod Stewart was born with a voice that sounds shot to pieces, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
but in the spring of 1965, he had no sense yet | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
of where that voice would take him. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
I've been a professional singer now for last nine or ten months. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Before that, I worked with my brother. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
If it lasts a year and a half, I shall be happy, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
which I think it will do. I'll get another 18 months. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
He would go on to become one of the most successful singers | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
of all time. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
# I don't want to | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
# Talk about it | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
# How you broke my heart | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
# If I stay here just a little bit longer... # | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
He's been famous for a lot of things - | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
mayhem on stage... | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
..rearranging hotel rooms... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
and misbehaving with women. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
In the back of one of those limousines, was a journalist. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Were you shagging Susan George, was the question. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
I ask you only to look at it at some point and reflect | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
-on what was going through your head. -Don't put me on the spot, Alan. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
I'm trying to be a gentleman here! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:41 | |
# Mother, don't you recognise me now? # | 0:01:41 | 0:01:48 | |
But how much of this has just been playing up the Jack-the-lad image? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
-Intrepid fox, Rod! -Tell us a story, Ronnie. -OK, Sherlock. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
# I was singing in the clubs Singing in the pubs | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
# Then along came Maggie May... # | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Almost five decades on and he has a new album out of his own songs, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
that tell the story of his life. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
# I will climb this mountain With this God-given gift | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
# If it's the last thing that I do And I remember thinking... # | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
He's broken most of the rules and just about got away with it | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and he shows no sign of stopping now. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
That's what I thought we might call the film - They Can't Stop Me Now. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I love the idea of that. I love it. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
-# So proud -They can't stop me now The world is waiting | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
# So proud Oh, yeah! | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
# They can't stop me now The tide is turning... # | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
Last year saw the publication of Rod's autobiography, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
a very honest and entertaining romp through his eventful life. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
I wondered if it was writing the book that had enabled him | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
to create these new songs, his first in over 20 years. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
You're writing your autobiography and, somehow or other, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
that did make you dig deeper and deeper. Is that what happened? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
That is exactly what happened. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
My family were instrumental in helping me with this book | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and that's what helped the songs, in so many ways. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
But my favourite is You Can't Stop Me Now, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
cos it is a tribute to my dad. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
# Thanks for the faith Thanks for the patience... # | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Do you ever worry about him getting mixed up with all these | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
purple heart-types you read about in the papers? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
No, we never worry about that sort of thing. Not with Roddy. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
I think he's too sensible for that sort of thing. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
At least, I think so. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
ROD APPLAUDS | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Rod lives with his parents in a small flat above their shop | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
in Archway Road, Highgate. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
He doesn't usually get up before lunchtime, but on Good Friday, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
he was up and dressed by 11.30. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
-I'm in my house. -I told you, I recognised it, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
-with the washing line. -Yeah. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
This is where me dad used to have a shop underneath. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
He seems to be doing quite well at singing. Were you disappointed | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-when he gave up football? -No, I wasn't disappointed. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
-Do you think he could have gone further as a footballer? -I think so. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
# You can't stop me now The tide is turning... # | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
How long have you been playing? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Footballing family. Since about five, you know. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Footballing family. They all play football. The brothers, you know. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
And my sisters play football! My dad was the best of the lot. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
# Thanks for the love Thanks for guidance... # | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
The game itself, we lost 4-2, unfortunately, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
but it doesn't really matter to me. It's just a workout. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
His dad told him that every man needed a job, a sport and a hobby. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
The sum of Rod's hobbies would become legendary, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
but one lifelong love has been building model railroads. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
And you've got a view from your bedroom window of the, sort of, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
of London's railway network. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
I did see the marshalling yards of Highgate and Archway | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
and beyond that, my next love, was the football pitch, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
so I had the two things right in front of me. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
All I needed was a nude blonde in the distance | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
and that would have been all three! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
And those early years, you were probably a pretty spoilt child, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
given that you were the youngest? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Spoilt with attention, not with gifts, because we didn't have... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
It was just after the war. We didn't have that much money, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
but certainly spoilt with attention, by my two brothers and two sisters. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
-Because he was the youngest, was he spoilt? -Definitely. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
You didn't hesitate there, at all. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-No. And I don't hesitate now! -He's still spoilt? -I think so, yes. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
Haven't you ever thought about moving out of home | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
and getting your own flat? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
-No, no. You know, life's too hard. I've done it before. -Why not? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
It's terrible, you know. At night, always having to wash your clothes. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
My old mum always washes me clothes. You can't go wrong. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Dinner's always there. It's terrific. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
And how did music come into your life? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
ROD CACKLES | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
# This here's a story about the Rock Island Line... # | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Rock Island Line, I believe that was the first time I'd ever heard | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
anything that resembled rock and roll. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
In actual fact, it was skiffle music and that was brand new. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
We'd all been listening to Bing Crosby and Al Jolson and Sinatra. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
That was the only music - and big band stuff - that existed for me. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
So, when Lonnie Donegan came along with this mad... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
MIMICS: # Oh, the Rock Island Line is a mighty fine line. # | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
..it sort of, changed everything. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
# You gotta ride it like you find it | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
# Get your ticket at the station on the Rock Island Line. # | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
My dad got me my first guitar, for really no apparent reason. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
He just, for some unknown reason, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
brought home a guitar and gave it to me. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
At what point did you discover your voice, for instance? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Probably, when I realised I had a voice was when I was about 16 or 17 | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
and I was a beatnik on Brighton beach | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
and I'd learnt quite a few songs on the guitar, American folk songs, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
and people would say "Hey, Rod, open your guitar up and give us a song." | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
And people would gather round to listen to me play. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
# I am a man of constant sorrow | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
# I've seen trouble all my days... # | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
And how did you become a beatnik? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Why I became a beatnik, I don't know. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Probably because it was all the go. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
So I said, "I'll jump on this bandwagon." | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
And also, I'd been joining in the Aldermaston marches. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
# Through this open world I'm about to ramble | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
# Throughout snow sleet and rain... # | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
About two years ago, we all used to support the CND. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
We used to go down Trafalgar Square, to see Bertrand Russell. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
# Perhaps I'll die on that train... # | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
Were you a lefty? Did you read The Daily Worker? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Ooh, serious lefty, yeah, yeah. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
I was a real communist, I must admit. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Not a real communist. I think it sprang out of the fact | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
I just wanted to be different to everybody else. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
I think that's why I became a beatnik. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I think that's why I read the Daily Worker, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
just to upset people. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
But Rod's communist leanings were short-lived. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
This time last year, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
they had all those demonstrations in Trafalgar Square. It was very good. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
But it's just had it now. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
It's a drag, you know. Quite honestly, to spend Easter last year | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
marching back from Aldermaston, it's not as good as people think. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
So that was politics. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
He then found himself on Brighton beach | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
and fell in love for the first time, with a girl called Sue. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
# You were the finest girl that my eyes had ever seen | 0:09:32 | 0:09:39 | |
# I guess you found it hard to simply just ignore | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
# This scruffy, beat-up working-class, teenage troubadour | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
# So we fell in love and I toured your heart | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
# With my out of tune guitar... # | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Brighton beach has got particular memories for you. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:07 | |
Is it true that Sue Boffey broke a guitar over your head? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
No, she didn't break it over my head. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
She was pregnant at the time and we were on Brighton beach and I think | 0:10:17 | 0:10:23 | |
she decided that I wasn't giving her enough attention and she threw | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
one of those great big rocks that you get on Brighton beach at me. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
I wish it had hit me, but it hit me guitar and split it | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
right up the middle. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
In actual fact, I think she was quite in order, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
because I was being selfish. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
She was pregnant and I was busy entertaining, you know. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
So, good on you, Sue. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
# Seems like only yesterday | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
# Under the stars | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
# On Brighton beach... # | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
Soon after, Sue gave birth to a daughter, Sarah, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
and Rod went off busking round Europe. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
The young parents decided to put the baby up for adoption, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
but eventually, Sarah was reunited with her father, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and at a recent concert, he dedicated Brighton Beach to Sarah. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:20 | |
# Kennedy and King... # | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Over the years, I've been to loads of concerts, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
but I think this was probably one of the best. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
And he dedicated a song to me. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
# Oh, how I long for yesterday | 0:11:31 | 0:11:37 | |
# Under the stars on Brighton beach... # | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
Yeah, that was, um, very nice. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
ROD: True story. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
My favourite song is Pure Love, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
a song that I think has beautiful lyrics, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
which he's written for his children. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
I don't know if he was thinking of me when he wrote that - | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I'd like to think he was - but, whatever, it's just a beautiful, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
beautiful song and it actually made me cry when I first listened to it. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
# Just open up that great big loving heart | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
# And you'll always be You'll always be | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
# You'll always be a part | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
# Of me... # | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
The song is a tribute to fatherhood and to his eight children, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
who range in age from 50 to two years old. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
But young Rod, now returning from Europe, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
had to face his own parents. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
When I came back, me mum and dad burnt me outfits, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
burnt me beatnik outfit, so, then, I became a mod. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
'I usually get treated very well in these big stores. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
'I've been there a few times. They even call me "Mr Stewart", now. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
'I like tweed. The country gentleman appearance | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
'appeals to me a lot' | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
That's a completely different look from the scruffy look, isn't it? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-That's more of a manicured, tailored look. -Also quite self conscious. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
-You want to look sexy, you want to look appealing. -Yeah. Always, yeah. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
Always, even when I was a beatnik, I wanted to look appealing. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
It was just, erm, a search for identity. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
This is another model. This is the up-to-date boot. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
This is what the Beatles wear. I've been wearing them about three years. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-I've only just caught on. -All his money goes on clothes, practically. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Clothes and boots, shirts. He's got about two dozen shirts upstairs, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:37 | |
he must have. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
What I was thinking of was a, sort of wool. It's a woolly thing. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
That's it. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
Rod's fashion sense would become notorious and it all began here. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-It suits me, don't you think? -But what do girls think about it? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Oh, they love it. Can't go wrong. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
His look might have appealed to the girls, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
but not to the record companies. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
I went for many auditions. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
I went to Decca Records, I think I went to EMI, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and got turned down by most of them, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
because they didn't know what to do with me. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
They didn't know what to do with me hair, me nose, clothes, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
and especially the voice. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
But the record companies were not always keeping up | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
with the fast-moving times. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
the transition from jazz to blues was happening in clubs and basements | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
and it would take his fellow musicians to recognise | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
the gravely, cracked voice that would become his trademark. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
And there's a very, very vibrant club scene, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
so were you hanging around that club scene, at that time? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Yeah, there was a place called Eel Pie Island, you know, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
that was in the middle of the Thames and I remember seeing | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
some of the great bands. The Stones were there, they were fabulous, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
I saw them when there was only 12 people in the audience. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
There was the Downliners Sect and The Yardbirds and The Animals | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
were brilliant. Some brilliant bands. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
So, then I kept watching them and thinking, you know, "I can do that. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
"I could be like Eric Burdon or Mick Jagger | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
"or Keith Relf from The Yardbirds." | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
So then, I definitely got my mind set on becoming a rock singer. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
And then young Rod the mod got his lucky break. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
He was discovered by the legendary blues performer Long John Baldry, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
after a late-night gig on the Thames. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I don't know who we'd been over to Eel Pie Island to see, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
but I was on the train coming back to Waterloo. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
I'd had a couple of bevvies and it was in the middle of winter | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
and I was on the floor, covered up with me coat and scarf, playing a | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
harmonica, and John saw me there and listened to me playing harmonica and | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
singing and prodded me, He said, the way he describes it, he said, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
"I saw this heap of clothes, old rags on the floor, with a nose | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
"sticking out. I thought it was an old tramp." But it was me playing | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
the harmonica and he said, "Would you like to join my band?" | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
But I think, to be serious, I think he saw potential in me | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
as being a... just a good blues shouter. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
We play blues in this band. We play blues and we sing blues. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
That's it. At the moment, we are only the nucleus of a band. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
But what I have in mind, in about a year, maybe two years' time, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
this is going to be about a 12-piece, 14-piece orchestra. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
And he had to hire you, via your mum, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-he had to ask your mum's permission? -Yeah, he did, yeah! | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Yeah, I remember, I said, "Well, you better go talk to me mum, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
"me dad, me mum". And, I think, the next day or the day after | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
he turned up at me mum's sweet shop with a bunch of flowers | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and said, "I'd like Roddy to join the band", and she said, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
"Well, you make sure you look after him. Make sure he's in by 11." | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
I think blues is more or less human feeling, whether you are | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
black or white. I think a white person can sing blues | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
with just as much conviction, if he knows what he's singing about. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very, very much, thank you. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Now, it gives me great pleasure to introduce to you | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
once more, with feeling, our wonderful young singer, Rod Stewart. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Let's give him a big warm welcome, come on, please! | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Thank you. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
This one's called I'm Going To Put A Tiger In Your Tank. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
'I wanted to sound black. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
'Anything from Big Bill Broonzy, to Muddy Waters, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
'right up to Sam Cooke, Chuck Berry.' | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
# I don't care what people think | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank... # | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
I used to lose me voice a lot in the old days. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I was totally self taught, when it came to the breathing | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
and using your diaphragm. No-one ever taught me how to do that. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
# I don't care what the people think | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
# I put a tiger in your tank. # | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Take it away now! | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
It was a tremendous band to be in, because they were all superb | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
jazz musicians, because the jazz era, the trad jazz era just finished | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
and these guys just went straight into playing the blues, no problem. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
# I can raise your hood I can change your oil... # | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Not only were these brilliant musicians, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Rod had found the perfect mentor in Long John Baldry. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
# Above my head above my head I see trouble in there | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
# I really do believe it I really do believe it | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
# Somewhere up above my head Up above me head | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
# I see angels everywhere See angels everywhere... # | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
It was John that instilled the confidence. Thank you, John. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
# Yes, I do believe you Yes, I do believe it | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
# Yes, I do believe it Yes, I do believe it | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
# Yes, I really believe it Do you believe? # | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
The great thing was that Long John encouraged everybody and so people | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
were free. It was a very creative environment. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Rod started to develop his own particular style, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
but his stagecraft, because Baldry would step out of the way - | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
"Go on, Rod", whatever - he got really good at connecting | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
with the audience and because of his dressing from Carnaby Street, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:10 | |
these kids would come and they would dress like him. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
Long John's new incarnation, Steampacket, allowed Rod | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
to experiment with all kinds of musical styles - | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Motown, soul, blues and gospel. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Motown had melody and soul music had melody | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
and this was something I was beginning to really, really | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
fall in love with. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
We were doing the university circuit. Just playing universities. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
It was wonderful, wonderful stuff. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
And we were earning big money. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
I remember our agent said, "You are up to £500 a night. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
"This is about what The Small Faces get and they've had three hits." | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Rod would sidle up to us at the bar, being extremely thrifty | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
at the time, and say, "Brian, buy us a drink." | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
I'd say, "What do you want? A beer?" | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
"No, I want a double port and a double brandy." | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
"Wait a minute. Where's your money?" | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
"My mum made me put all my money in my Post Office account." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I'm saving up to buy a car at the moment. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Somehow, I manage to put away about £20-25 a week of the money I earn. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
It's a regular thing. Every Saturday, I pay it in | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
at the Post Office. I don't believe in banks. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Listen, I think it's like most boys, you want cars and girls. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
And that was utmost, one comes with the other. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
You get a nice fancy car, you got a slim chance of pulling a girl. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-Definitely will leave your name on the door. -OK. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-If you're not there... -I'll be there, don't worry. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Obviously, we know that it was around this time you met Ronnie, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-when you were still... -Oh, that ponce! -Remember him? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Yeah, my old mucker. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
For Rod's next chapter, he had a well-known partner in crime. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
Yentob's looking at us, Ronnie. Get tuned up, mate. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Let's just sing the blues! | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
# It takes a worried man to sing a worried song | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
# It takes a worried man to sing a worried song | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
# It takes a worried man to sing a worried song | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
# I'm worried now But I won't be worried long. # | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
In the beginning, there was Rod and there was Ronnie | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-and Rod and Ronnie met in a pub. -Yeah. The Intrepid Fox, Rod! | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
-Tell them the story, Ronnie. -OK, Sherlock. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
-Can you remember that story or..? -Yeah, yeah, I can remember it. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
It was The Intrepid Fox, as Ronnie said, in Wardour Street. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-Yeah. -Wardour Street. We bumped into each other and I think we were | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
vaguely aware of each other, through the business. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
He had Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl, which was new | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
on the scene to me - Rod The Mod. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And he was with The Birds and we recognised a nice big nose | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and a fairly similar haircut, when we saw each other. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
He came up to me, we had similar hair, and he said, "Hello, face". | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
And I'll never forget it and, years later, we were Faces. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
-Great answer. -Great answer. -You really do look like brothers. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
-We're bookends or a pickaxe. -Let's see the pickaxe. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
That's the pickaxe. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
-You did actually write songs, didn't you, in Rod's room? -Trousers. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:36 | |
And we tried round my old mum's house, as he would say. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
No, Ron, we used to go round his mum's house. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
We went round there and we had a yellow page | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
and we'd sit there and nothing would happen. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Just sit there, get a bottle of wine out and get pissed as a fart | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
and both of us would fall on the floor. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
And his mum came in and said, "Well, you're not going to be much | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
"of a challenge to The Beatles like that, are you?" | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
By the mid '60s, the music scene had exploded, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
with many bands emerging, such as the Small Faces and The Yardbirds, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
whose innovative guitarist Jeff Beck would now become a catalyst | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
for Ronnie and Rod. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
When Jeff left The Yardbirds, I rang him up. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
I said, "What are you going to do?" and he went, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
"Oh, hello, mate, Don't fancy getting together, do you?" | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
I said, "Sure". Then, he said, "I've got this idea | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
"for this vocalist, Rod Stewart." | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Jeff said, "Listen, The Beatles are writing their own songs | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
and The Stones had just written one of their own songs and why don't we | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
"start trying to write songs?" | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Back in Ronnie's mum's council house, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
the boys' writing now took off. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Soon, they were heading, into the studio with Jeff. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-I want to sing it in harmony. -However you want. -I'll try something | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
on this first few chords. If it sounds duff, stop me, right? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Make the voice nearly in the background. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
But, musically, that was also very... It was very potent stuff. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
When it was good, it was really, really good. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
# I've woken up on mornings such as this | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
# And thought exactly as I'm thinking now | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
# Every night for a year I've slept alone | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
# My cold bamboo looks worse than me | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
# I got a fear of death that creeps home every night... # | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
How loud do you want it? Here we go. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
With Jeff, we were always good. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
They make you a better vocalist | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
and you use up the space, because Jeff was good at that, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
leaving space for me. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
Yeah, and you talked about that ability to have that dialogue, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-if you like, with the guitar. -Yeah, shout and response. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Rod was now becoming aware of how he could use his voice | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
as an instrument. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
# I wonder how you could cheat me so low down and dirty... # | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
With Jeff Beck's backing, the band were now ready to take to the road. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
Their first stop was New York and a daunting venue, Fillmore East. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
So, Rod, you were particularly nervous? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Well, I've always wanted - Woody's always wanted to play like | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Big Bill Broonzy - I wanted to sound like Muddy Waters or Otis Redding. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
They're all black and we're not. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
So I thought, when the curtain opens at the Fillmore, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
never having been to America, it will be all full of black people | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and they're going to go, "Fraud, fraud, fraud!" | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
-Of course, it wasn't. -They loved it. We used to blow them away | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
and we'd be selling them their own music, but unknowing to us. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
We were selling them songs we loved, but it all came from America. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
# The shapes of things before my eyes | 0:27:09 | 0:27:16 | |
# Just help me to define... # | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
Robert Shelton, from The New York Times, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
wrote "the interplay of a Pinter play between Rod and Jeff Beck" | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
and that went front page, New York Times. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
We had it copied and it was sent from coast to coast. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
So in Chicago, in Detroit and by the time we got to LA, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
we'd already set a precedent. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
The Jeff Beck Group were blazing a trail across the United States. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
It was a chance for Rod to develop his stage presence | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
and play to much larger crowds. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
The band had created the template for a new kind of performance, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
that others wanted to emulate. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
I remember we was in Houston and Jimmy Page would show up | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
and then Jimmy Page would show up with Peter Grant, the manager, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
the two of the would show up with Robert Plant and they just, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
sort of, based Led Zeppelin on The Jeff Beck Group. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
But good luck to them. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
Hugely influential, The Jeff Beck Group and first album, Truth, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
became the blueprint for the heavy blues rock bands | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
that would follow. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
It was a groundbreaking album in a groundbreaking moment. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
You sensed that, again, you've got artists here with fabulous vision, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
they've got energy, great ability, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
but you can just hear the way that they work off one another. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
You know, that was the springboard, wasn't it, for Rod's career, really. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
I think the Truth album was massively important for him. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
But despite the brilliance of the music, the band was falling apart | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
because of poor management. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
So, it was girls, booze and hair, basically, and clothes. That was it. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:10 | |
Yeah. And sleeping. That was about it. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
I'm surprised there was much time for sleeping. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
Not with the shagging we did, Ronnie, eh?! Yah! | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Shut up, Rod! What about all the miserly money? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
-We used to scrimp and save and steal eggs. -We did. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
-It wasn't Jeff's fault. -Very frugal. -He was a great musician. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
He wasn't really interested in the band, as such. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
-He let Peter Grant run it. -Peter Grant was a horrible slave driver. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
-Yeah. -He used to put us on a pittance. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Pittance is the word, Ronnie. We had to steal, sometimes, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
-to get some food. -We did, yeah. From Horn & Hardart in New York. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Every time I drive by there, I point out, "We used to nick food | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
"from there, cos we weren't getting paid"! | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
What was it, where things went wrong? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
We broke up two weeks before Woodstock and it was all money. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
We were all making a stand and all that and it all went so sour, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
-didn't it? -Yeah. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
'In 1969, Ronnie left the band, and joined the Small Faces. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:10 | |
'Rod left soon after, and his first album came out that same year. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
'An Old Raincoat Won't Ever Let You Down | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
'became a model for his solo sound.' | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
# Ever seen a blind man cross the road | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
# Tryin' to make the other side? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
# Ever seen a young girl growin' old | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
# Tryin' to make herself a bride? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
# So what becomes of you My love... # | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
'He was just a great singer with a fantastic voice. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
'I mean, whatever, wherever it all went from then on, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
'the one thing that you could centre back into | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
'was the fact that Rod has this absolutely amazing voice.' | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
He was delivering these songs, you know, touching your heartstrings | 0:31:07 | 0:31:14 | |
with the way that he was interpreting the songs. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
And yet, at the same time, it was as good as effortless for him. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
He could just reach these notes. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
If he set himself to hit a note, he'd just hit it. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
There was no effort to it at all, it was just... | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
I always used to think, "Wow, blimey, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
"one of the great, great vocalists is emerging here." | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
And how did that album do? It did well? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Yeah. I thought, "They're never going to sell 30,000 records," but they did. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
And the song that sort of stands out for a lot of people | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
is Handbags And Gladrags, cos I kind of sense that that's a song, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
that melody really, really got to you. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
It feels like that when you listen to it. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Yeah, it, erm, it was written by Mike d'Abo, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
who was the singer with Manfred Mann. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
I always had it up there and I thought, "I'm going to do that song one day," and I did. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
# The handbags and the gladrags | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
# That your poor old grandad had to sweat to buy... # | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
'It showed his talent for finding and chasing a song | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
'that he knew was right for him.' | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
'But for all the success of his solo career, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
'he loved being part of a band. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
'Luckily, Ronnie Wood was now with the Small Faces, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
'who had lost their lead singer.' | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
'When the Small Faces split up,' | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
the three of us used to get together, me, Mac and Ronnie, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
and we went down to... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
The Stones had a warehouse in Bermondsey Street, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
and down the bottom they had a soundproof room, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
so we went in there to play and jam once a week. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
'And the following week, Woody brought down his best mate, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
'which was Rod.' | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
-No, well, we were down there and I said, 'Well, look, Rod's upstairs..." -Listening. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
And they were, "We don't want another bossy vocalist." | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
'He's not bossy. He's really like one of us'. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Anyway, eventually Kenny went up and asked him, and he came down. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Rod was sitting on the amps most of the time, waiting for us to have a break. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
'And I was sitting there looking at a great vocalist and I thought, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
"Yeah, there you go. We've got to have him." | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
# I don't need no-one's opinion | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
# On the matter concerning my dress | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
# I was raised in a clinic down in Oklahoma... # | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
You were asked to join. I forced my way in. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
# I never complained because my father said | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
# You'll get your chance before you're my age... # | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
'The other Faces recognised a kindred spirit, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
'another working class lad who loved rhythm & blues, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
'and one of the most influential British rock-and-roll bands was born.' | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
'It's interesting, then, that what it is that somehow wasn't working | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
'for the Jeff Beck band was absolutely at the heart of the Faces, really.' | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
'In other words, that relationship...' | 0:34:07 | 0:34:08 | |
I felt the Faces were like a brotherhood... | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
'The Faces were a gang of yobbos.' | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
'A lot of these songs, I gather,' | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
you're practically writing them as you went on stage, is that right? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Lots in the dressing room, didn't we? Stay With Me, with The Faces, we wrote in the dressing room. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
So Stay With Me, which is the sort of anthem of The Faces, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
-you wrote in the dressing room? -Yeah, I had the riff and Rod said, "Hold that, I've got the words." | 0:34:36 | 0:34:42 | |
# In the morning | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
# Don't say you love me | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
# Cos I'll only kick you out of the door | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
# I know your name is Rita | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
# Cos your perfume's smelling sweeter | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
# Since when I saw you down on the floor... # | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
'Where would the lyrics come from on those occasions?' | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
'You just your imagination, or just base it on, on truth,' | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
or just be inspired by something, you know? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Yeah, and it often might suit a situation that you're in at the time, you know? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
You might be missing home, or missing your girlfriend, or whatever. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
-Or missing a penalty. -Missing a penalty in his case, yeah. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
# So Mother when you see me | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
# Don't forget that I'm your boy | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
# I know my brother has done you proud | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
# But he's one foot in the grave | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
# Mother don't you recognise me now? # | 0:35:40 | 0:35:47 | |
Woo! | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
'And if the rumours were true of the Faces' life on the road, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
'hotel managers can't have been too pleased to see them checking in.' | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
'Clearly what the Faces got up to on stage and off stage was...' | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
One and the same. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
It was just an extension. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
We used to give the audience a bottle of, a crate of Liebfraumilch | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
'or on a special occasion it would be champagne. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
-'They'd all be in the same mood as we were.' -'Are you serious?' | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Yeah. That was our backing group a lot of the time, was cases of booze. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
This is an arena that holds about 13,000, 14,000. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
Look at all the audience just wandering around the stage, sitting on the stage. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
-We used to have them on stage with us. -You wouldn't get that any more. -And then back at the hotel. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
'How mad did it get? How crazy did it get?' | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
'Here's how mad... Detroit always used to be a stronghold for us.' | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
-'It was fabulous there.' -'Detroit, Cobo Hall and...' -'Grande Ballroom.' | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
'And the Grande Ballroom. We used to invite the audience back to the hotel. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
'So it was a Holiday Inn, they'd let about 300 in on our floor, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
'cos we'd have the whole floor.' | 0:37:02 | 0:37:03 | |
But the great thing about it, everybody had wine, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
everybody would bring wine. These were good old days. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
And you could actually leave your room open, nothing would get nicked. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
There was loads of girls going up and down the corridor, it was just... | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
-Pool parties, you know. -Pool parties. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
'We had private planes sometimes. The pilot would end up in the pool.' | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
'Now, as you can see, this is a charming piece of tapestry, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
'which hangs upon the wall in the Ramada Inn here.' | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
'Now, I know that everyone thinks that The Who were most destructive, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
'but you broke up a fair number of hotel rooms in your time?' | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
'Very politely, and we used to rearrange more than break them up. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
'One of mine, what we all participated in, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
'was actually constructing the room in the corridor.' | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
'Oh, that was a good one, yeah.' | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
So, we would just sit, you know, having a fag | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and playing a bit of football and having a cup of tea, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
and people would come out the elevator and they'd be like going into somebody's room. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
-We arranged all the pictures, all the furniture. -Everything would go into the corridor | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
-and we'd all just sit round and enjoy an afternoon cup of tea. -And I remember one hotel manager came up | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
'to witness it, and he just folded his arms, and he just walked along and he just smiled.' | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
DRUNKEN SINGING | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
We were banned from the Holiday Inn chain. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
We used to have to check in as Fleetwood Mac. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Yeah, we did that for a while, yeah. Just before they got famous, we'd book in as Fleetwood Mac. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
Yeah. For years! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
'But, back in London, this was the early '70s, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
'and the Faces weren't just rock icons, they were fashion models, too. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
'At last, Rod was getting proper recognition for his hair and fashion flair.' | 0:38:53 | 0:39:01 | |
Is it true to say, one of the reasons this caught fire, the Faces, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
was because there was a sort of denim and beards mob | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
coming up in music at that time? It was all rather po-faced? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Yeah, serious. Yeah. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
We came along, we were all loud jackets, loud trousers, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
-loud mouths, loud haircuts! -Yeah, velvet and satin. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
'Where did we used to go and get the clothes? Granny Takes A Trip, wasn't it?' | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
We both had jackets, I had a pink one, you had a yellow one | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
with the big cherries on it, do you remember? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
'We used to meet Mick and the boys in King's Road.' | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
"Can't buy that one, no. Old Mother Bowie's got it. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
"Can't buy that jacket." | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
And Marc Bolan, with the feather boas. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
CROWD: # We'll meet again | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
# Don't know where... # | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
'You've got your solo career going, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
'and sometimes you'd see the Faces on stuff which was your gig,' | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
and sometimes it would be the other way round. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
How, from your point of view, Ronnie, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
the fact that Rod was becoming more and more successful | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and more and more known as a solo performer... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
How did that, what did it make you feel? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
We used to have respect for anybody in our age group | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
that was a couple of years older, if they got famous first you'd go, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
"That's OK." In fairness, he'd always ring me up and say, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
"I'm going to make another album, have you got any songs?" | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
-He'd always make me part of his solo album. -Number one man. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
# Wake up, Maggie | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
# I think I've got something to say to you | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
# It's late September and I really should be back at school... # | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
'In 1971, Rod's third solo album came out. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
'One song, Maggie May, was a sensation.' | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
# Oh, Maggie, I couldn't have tried | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
# Any more... # | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
'It shot Rod into the realms of superstardom, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
'and changed his life forever.' | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
CROWD: # You stole my heart | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
# And that's what really hurt... # | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
'The Faces management now saw Rod as the star, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
'and the Faces as a glorified backing band.' | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
'The six-year party that had been the Faces | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
'was coming to an end.' | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
'What happened was, after Maggie May, it became Rod Stewart And The Faces.' | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
And I was embarrassed, I really was embarrassed. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
-I mean Maggie May, that... -That was number one both sides of the Atlantic, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
-one of the first records that... -Mmm. Album and single. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
-I mean, it was explosive, Maggie May, its impact, wasn't it, really? -Yeah. Yeah, yeah. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
So, was it very difficult after that to...? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
Yeah. It was the seed that was sown that I think really started breaking the Faces up. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
-Not for me, though. -No, not for me. -It was like, "Well done, great. This is great." | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
'Rod's career was shifting slowly more to a solo career.' | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
We were touring so much, it kind of slipped by us, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
it just overtook us, Rod's career. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
What happened was, we lent Woody to the Stones. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
I'd have stayed with the Faces for the rest of my life. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
He was the first one who left, didn't you? You left first. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Well, cos Rod left the band, yeah. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
-No, I didn't! You left first! -Yes, he did! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
Jagger asked you to join the group. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Well, that was a year before I joined. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
But he didn't want to split up the Faces either. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
When Woody came back, he came back a Rolling Stone, really | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
and that was... And Rod had moved to America, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
so the whole thing was falling apart in a sense, you know? | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
We're in the United States now, we've been here ten days, we've got nine days to go, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
then we go home for nine days, then we come back for three weeks. Did you get all that? | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Yeah, I think I did. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
'After that last American tour, the band returned to England, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
'but Rod stayed behind.' | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Yeah, so after Rod announced, viewers, that he was going to leave the band... | 0:43:23 | 0:43:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
-No, it was just that it was in the air. -I got sucked into it a little bit, I suppose. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
He was off sailing, literally. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
# I am sailing | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
# I am sailing | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
# Home again... # | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
'In the spring of 1975, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
'Rod met the most glamorous woman of the moment, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
'Swedish actress and movie star Britt Ekland, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
'and the working class lad from London felt that he'd arrived.' | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
# To be near you | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
# To be free... # | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
'Rod has lived here in Los Angeles since that time, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
'returning for only three months a year to England, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
'where he also has a home.' | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
We're coming to the Britt period. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
"Britt broadened my outlook in everything," you said. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
Yeah. Yeah, she did. She was, er... | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
not only a fabulous film star at the time, she had that, er... | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
-The Bond film? -..Bond film out, so it was a real feather in my cap. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
'And that was really your Los Angeles moment. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
'You'd kind of left England.' | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
You're laughing cos you can see it coming. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
Well, it's cos I... I really felt I'd arrived, you know? | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
In Los Angeles, with a film star, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
and I'm rock star, and, you know, a few shillings in the bank, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
'sun is shining, love is in the air.' | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
He's a very generous person, emotionally. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
And I think... | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
-In an emotional way I was really swept off my feet. -Were you? -Yes. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
What do you think of her? | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
"She's all right, I guess, for a girl!" | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
She's magnificent. I mean... | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
The thing that I am more impressed with more than anything is | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
her insight into my business. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
She was extremely worldly. She knew... | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Because I'd earned a few shillings getting in to trying to | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
invest my money in art, which I've always wanted to do | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
if I ever earned any money but she was way out there. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
She knew everything so I owe her a great deal. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
# Cos I tried to love ya | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
# But I didn't fit in... # | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
No, there was a reason for those. If you remember the reason. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
And actually if we did it the two of those would make | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
the shipping and custom of all the rest worthwhile. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
# My little baby is calculating | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
# What these lamps are going to cost! | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
# Ba-doo-doo-doo-doo.... # | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
Rod had entered the heady world of glamour and celebrity. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
PHOTOGRAPHERS CLAMOUR | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
BAGPIPES PLAY | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
He appeared to have left his working-class roots far behind. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
And for the first time, his music was getting negative press. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:31 | |
The albums had done brilliantly, you were still absolutely | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
at the top of your game at that point and then the song that people | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
-recall at that time was Tonight's The Night. -Yeah. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
Not necessarily in a flattering way, some people don't say it is | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
but it's a great song, which even now is a great song. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
# It's gonna be all right... # | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
-Didn't the BBC ban it? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a little while. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
Yeah, just because I sang, "Spread your wings and let me come inside." | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
What's wrong with that, Alan, I ask you?! | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
# Spread your wings and let me come inside | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
# Tonight's the night... # | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
If popularity is measured in champagne, I know who wins. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
Look at that. How do you like that? | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
Look at that. See? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
Sometimes it pays to be a pop star. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:47:40 | 0:47:46 | |
During that period, in the back of one of those limousines was | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
-a journalist where you were asked about Susan George. -Yeah. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:55 | |
I ask you only to look at it at some point | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
and reflect on what was going through your head! | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
What about you, Rod, you've got a great reputation as a womaniser | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
and we all read the scandal, you are chatting up Susan George | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
and got a smacked face for it. Do you get annoyed? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
It's not true, I have to point out at this time, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
it was absolutely not true. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
It was one of several totally and utterly fabricated stories about us. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:23 | |
Yes, darling. It's quite true. What she says is very true. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
-No, it is true. -What she says has made it very clear, hasn't it? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
It has. You're a very good boy. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
Were you shagging Susan George was the question. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
I don't know what the answer might be. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
At that time, no, Susan George was a lot later. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
Oh, come off it. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
Yeah, it was. It was a lot later. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Don't put me on the spot, Alan. I'm trying to be a gentleman here! | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
I wasn't the most faithful of boyfriends in the world. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
That, to be honest, is something that I'm, to this day, very embarrassed about. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:04 | |
I treated women very shabbily | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
and didn't break up relationships very well. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
In fact, I didn't break up relationships I just ran away. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
You know, which is terrible. It's embarrassing. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
That was the last time you ran away. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
-No, there's been a few running aways! -Oh, sorry. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
Do you ever sit back to yourself and say, "How the hell did I ever get this?" | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
Oh, yes, sometimes you sit back and think am I really worth | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
being paid X amount of pounds for achieving whatever on a record? | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
-Sometimes it makes you a bit depressed... -Why depressed? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
I suppose you get a feeling of, a feeling of guilt really - | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
which is very stupid but I've come from absolutely nothing | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
and I've done it all on my own back. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
Rod had come a long way from the football terraces to the | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Hollywood Hills. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
But although he'd developed a taste for the finer things in life, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
he still kept his family close beside him. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
His love of football was a constant and he would fly in to | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
watch his beloved Scotland, together with his brothers and dad. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
There's a journalist called Penny | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
and she said to you, "You used to be a lad from London, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:40 | |
"who used to be a working class lad and you've turned into a posh git!" | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:50:44 | 0:50:45 | |
And you sort of defended yourself. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
You don't think the way you live gets in the way of that image? | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
I don't know what my image is. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
We've established it's changed three or four times in the last four years. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
Yeah, but not so noticeably as it has in the last two years. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
There was a point of identification with, say, The Faces, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:09 | |
that was very like the crowd on the terraces. It was... | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
Why should that change now I've moved to Los Angeles? | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Because now they read about you not living here and having more | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
money and having a different kind of life. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
That hasn't changed the person. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
The music is more sophisticated, it's a different kind of music | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
and you're a different person, you are. You've changed a lot. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
Oh, well... it! I'll play the London Palladium | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
and if they don't turn up I'll sing to my mum and dad! | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
I suppose you were thinking, I think, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
the look on your face is I'm so successful, I'm doing so well, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
I've got this beautiful woman at my side, what are you on about? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Yeah, that was more or less it. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
I did what most guys would have done in my position | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
coming from my background. I didn't know how long it was going to last. | 0:51:54 | 0:52:00 | |
I enjoyed myself. Every hour of every day. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Now solo in LA, Rod was free to go in his own musical direction. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
Sam Cooke used to say... | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
I said, "What do you think about this artist?" | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
He said, "Well, right now he's... He's an entertainer." | 0:52:37 | 0:52:43 | |
He says, "He grow older, he become an artist." | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
# Sweet little rock'n'roller | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
# Sweet little rock'n'roller | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
# Her father doesn't have to scold her | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
# Her partner can't hardly hold her | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
# She never gets any older | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
# Sweet little rock'n'roller | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
# Sweet little rock'n'roller... # | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
To watch somebody, this is before black was in. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
The soul singer meant black, it was the soul singer. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
When I look, I say Rod has been soulful all his life | 0:53:19 | 0:53:25 | |
and even though people say, "He's trying to sound like this," | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
I say, everybody tries to sound like somebody else but I say | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
they are blessed with what they have. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
All you can do is cultivate it. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
And so I watched Rod Stewart, it was like watching myself become | 0:53:49 | 0:53:54 | |
more sure of himself, he recognised who he was and he cultivated it. | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
But the critics were less sure. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
And perhaps his lifestyle was getting in the way | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
of his credibility. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
# But if anything should happen and my plans go wrong... # | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
Back in the UK, his fans felt left behind. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
He's getting too big, it's got into him, that Hollywood stuff. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
-It's not right. -You think he's left you all behind a bit? | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
Yeah, he didn't even do a farewell concert. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
He thinks he's left us behind but he's not though! | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
But then in 1976 Rod surprised everyone. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
The Killing Of Georgie, tell me about that and how that came about. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:01 | |
Well, first of all it was a true story and Georgie was a black guy, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:08 | |
a dear friend of the Faces, very handsome guy. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
And he would bring us, bring us, you know, music - | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
great singles and albums and turn us on to all that stuff. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
So, the facts are nearly absolutely correct. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
He got killed on 43rd and 3rd it was, I think, I'm not sure. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
# Pa said there must be a mistake | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
# How can my son not be straight? | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
# After all I've said and done for him... # | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
First of all, that was an incredibly brave song. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
Secondly, you've made yourself up, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
you're incredibly seductive on camera and it's an amazing song. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:48 | |
# Leavin' home on a Greyhound bus | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
# Cast out by the ones he loves | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
# A victim of these gay days it seems... # | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
I did look a bit of a tart in some of the videos, I must admit. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
Eye make-up on galore. But it was all the go at the time. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
The band used to shout out, "Avon Calling!" | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
when I walked on the stage! | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
It's so hard for me to analyse songs because I didn't sit down | 0:56:19 | 0:56:24 | |
and say, "I'm going to write a song about my dear friend Georgie." | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
It's just the chords... I still do it to this day, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
I will sing along with the chords until something comes up. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
And I don't know what sparked the song, I really don't. I wish I did. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
I dedicate this tune to the newspapers. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:45 | |
I Don't Want To Talk About It. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
# I don't want to talk about it | 0:56:50 | 0:56:56 | |
# How you broke my heart | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
# If I stay just a little bit longer | 0:57:04 | 0:57:11 | |
# If I stay won't you listen? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
Despite the fact that you're incredibly successful, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
it's the arrival of punk soon afterwards | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
and there is Joe Strummer and others are very condescending towards you. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:35 | |
I think you refer to it that you'd got a kick in the harem pants. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
What do you feel about what you are doing at that time | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
and what this new wave of music was, what punk was doing? | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
Well, it was a question of I'm doing my thing, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
there's no reason why they can't do what they do. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
We can all live on this planet making different music, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
that's the way I looked at it. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
And I think they used me | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
and stabbed me in the back to get publicity. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
There's nothing wrong with that. We're all big boys, we can take it. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
-It was a good kick up the arse for the likes of me and... -Elton. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:32 | |
Elton and Bowie and everybody that was around at that time. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
# There's no future | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
# In England's dreaming | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
# God save the Queen! # | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
God Save The Queen was in the charts and you, of course, put out, | 0:58:43 | 0:58:47 | |
I Don't Want To Talk About It and The First Cut Is The Deepest | 0:58:47 | 0:58:50 | |
and you got to the top of the charts and God Save The Queen didn't, | 0:58:50 | 0:58:54 | |
so you got your revenge. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:55 | |
# The first cut is the deepest | 0:58:58 | 0:59:02 | |
# Baby, I know the first cut is the deepest... # | 0:59:02 | 0:59:07 | |
But far removed from punk and the London riots, Rod was still loving | 0:59:07 | 0:59:12 | |
the LA life and he had met Alana who would become the first Mrs Stewart. | 0:59:12 | 0:59:17 | |
I saw him across the crowded table, | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
we were sitting at the same table and no, I thought he was very | 0:59:21 | 0:59:25 | |
cocky and sure of himself and I thought, "Who does he think he is anyway?" | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
I can't remember what we talked about - sex and drugs probably. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:31 | |
-In that order. -Yes. No, I can't remember. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:34 | |
I don't remember what we talked about. What I do remember was | 0:59:34 | 0:59:37 | |
I realised he was really a terrific person, | 0:59:37 | 0:59:40 | |
very bright and sensitive and all the things I hadn't thought | 0:59:40 | 0:59:43 | |
he was and had a wonderful sense of humour | 0:59:43 | 0:59:46 | |
and we stayed up till six o'clock in the morning talking | 0:59:46 | 0:59:48 | |
and I had a completely different impression of him by the end. | 0:59:48 | 0:59:51 | |
-Then what did we do, darling, from six o'clock onwards?! -Don't be rude! | 0:59:51 | 0:59:54 | |
The rest is not history. | 0:59:54 | 0:59:56 | |
# Hot legs, you're wearing me out | 0:59:56 | 1:00:01 | |
# Hot legs you can scream and shout! # | 1:00:01 | 1:00:05 | |
But Rod as partygoer and Casanova was beginning to overshadow Rod the musician. | 1:00:05 | 1:00:11 | |
You've added to that mythology, that sort of anthem for tall blondes with | 1:00:13 | 1:00:17 | |
beautiful legs, which has certainly been a regular element in your life. | 1:00:17 | 1:00:22 | |
-Nothing wrong with that, Alan. -I take that, absolutely. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:25 | |
-It is a great promo, that promo of... -Hot Legs? | 1:00:25 | 1:00:28 | |
Shot between the girls, yeah. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:30 | |
# Hot legs wearing me out... # | 1:00:31 | 1:00:35 | |
'It was my idea to shoot it through the legs and then I think | 1:00:35 | 1:00:38 | |
'they copied that idea with a Bond film a couple of years later.' | 1:00:38 | 1:00:42 | |
# ..I love you, honey! # | 1:00:43 | 1:00:45 | |
Not everyone got the joke | 1:00:47 | 1:00:50 | |
and the next hit was the last straw. | 1:00:50 | 1:00:52 | |
Around that time also you brought out Do Ya Think I Am Sexy? | 1:01:04 | 1:01:08 | |
And this was probably one of the most successful songs | 1:01:08 | 1:01:14 | |
you wrote at the time. | 1:01:14 | 1:01:15 | |
Yeah. It was an absolute tearaway, it really was. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:18 | |
# If you want my body and you think I'm sexy | 1:01:18 | 1:01:23 | |
# Come on, sugar let me know | 1:01:23 | 1:01:26 | |
# If you really need me Just reach out and touch me | 1:01:27 | 1:01:31 | |
# Come on, honey Tell me so | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
# Tell me so, baby... # | 1:01:34 | 1:01:35 | |
'I went down to Brazil for the carnival in Rio,' | 1:01:35 | 1:01:39 | |
and I heard this melody. | 1:01:39 | 1:01:41 | |
# Da-da-da-da-da-da Da-da-da-da-da-da | 1:01:41 | 1:01:45 | |
# Da-da-da-da-da-da-dad-da. # | 1:01:45 | 1:01:48 | |
And when we came to record, I don't know, eight months later, | 1:01:48 | 1:01:51 | |
that melody was still in my head | 1:01:51 | 1:01:52 | |
and I didn't know where I had got it from, and I just went for it. | 1:01:52 | 1:01:55 | |
# ..If you want my body and you think I'm sexy... # | 1:01:55 | 1:02:00 | |
But Rod didn't realise what he was setting himself up for. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:04 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:02:10 | 1:02:14 | |
It was a skit on the Kenny Everett television show | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
and it was the time when Rod was turning his back on the audience | 1:02:18 | 1:02:21 | |
and doing a lot of wiggling and all of that kind of stuff. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:24 | |
# ..If you want my body and you think I'm sexy | 1:02:24 | 1:02:28 | |
# Come on, sugar, let me know... # | 1:02:28 | 1:02:30 | |
He turns round and wiggles and then his buttocks have inflated. | 1:02:32 | 1:02:37 | |
And then they inflate again and then they inflate again. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
Until finally, Rod is drifting up to the ceiling, | 1:02:46 | 1:02:50 | |
propelled by these massively inflated buttocks. | 1:02:50 | 1:02:53 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:02:53 | 1:02:54 | |
It is so funny as a sketch. It is absolutely brilliant and, | 1:02:56 | 1:03:01 | |
of course, it did pin public opinion of Rod at that particular moment. | 1:03:01 | 1:03:06 | |
But it was also, of course, that was the moment of disco | 1:03:06 | 1:03:10 | |
and you had somehow captured the mood of the moment. | 1:03:10 | 1:03:14 | |
Yeah, and I think that is why it is so popular today. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:18 | |
CLATTERING | 1:03:18 | 1:03:19 | |
What is that noise coming in the background here? | 1:03:19 | 1:03:21 | |
I think you have got some tea here. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:23 | |
Hi, boys. Thank you. Let's do it together now. | 1:03:27 | 1:03:32 | |
# Come on, you boys in green! | 1:03:32 | 1:03:33 | |
-BOYS: -# Glasgow's green and white! | 1:03:33 | 1:03:35 | |
-How is that then? -Good. | 1:03:35 | 1:03:38 | |
-It is good? -Can you open that, please? -You can have some raisins. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:42 | |
Daddy is going to have a nice cup of tea. Thank you, boys. | 1:03:42 | 1:03:44 | |
The critics now had it in for Rod Stewart. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
Punk had redefined the musical landscape | 1:03:49 | 1:03:53 | |
and authenticity was all the rage. | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
What Rod was doing for many people was selling out. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:59 | |
Selling out, to me is trying to be somebody else. | 1:03:59 | 1:04:05 | |
He just went wherever the music flowed, just like Stevie said, | 1:04:05 | 1:04:09 | |
"Well, if I hear it, there is no bad music." | 1:04:09 | 1:04:11 | |
You know? So Rod has been in many different bands, | 1:04:11 | 1:04:18 | |
but when it all come out on top, stood Rod Stewart. | 1:04:18 | 1:04:22 | |
One thing about any career that demonstrates genuine | 1:04:22 | 1:04:26 | |
longevity is the longer that career goes on | 1:04:26 | 1:04:31 | |
and the more, particularly, as time goes by, it begins to rethrive, | 1:04:31 | 1:04:36 | |
you have to have respect for that | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
because it demonstrates resilience, | 1:04:38 | 1:04:42 | |
commitment and talent, sheer talent. | 1:04:42 | 1:04:45 | |
# ..Now you're moving in high society... # | 1:04:45 | 1:04:51 | |
OK, you can lose track, you can lose yourself in this strata | 1:04:51 | 1:04:57 | |
of parties and shopping at Prada, | 1:04:57 | 1:05:00 | |
or whatever it is, girlfriends, | 1:05:00 | 1:05:02 | |
it is the way you come out the other side of that | 1:05:02 | 1:05:05 | |
that then becomes important. | 1:05:05 | 1:05:07 | |
Musically and business-wise, I mention two things, | 1:05:10 | 1:05:14 | |
in the early days, the Faces' business was | 1:05:14 | 1:05:17 | |
hopeless, apparently, completely hopeless | 1:05:17 | 1:05:21 | |
and I take it it was not very good around this time | 1:05:21 | 1:05:25 | |
when you're with Alana because that is when you bring Arnold in. | 1:05:25 | 1:05:28 | |
It is so easy to, | 1:05:34 | 1:05:35 | |
when you hit success, take your eye off the ball and forget about, | 1:05:35 | 1:05:40 | |
you know, who's running the band, who's doing the finances, | 1:05:40 | 1:05:44 | |
who's doing anything because you're so flushed with success. | 1:05:44 | 1:05:48 | |
In the mid-'80s he and Alana broke up, and he went on to | 1:05:50 | 1:05:54 | |
have a daughter with model Kelly Emberg. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:56 | |
Once again, his lifestyle was counting against him. | 1:05:58 | 1:06:01 | |
Clearly Rod was suffering from er... a backlash, | 1:06:03 | 1:06:08 | |
and being seen suddenly as no longer that troubadour street singer, | 1:06:08 | 1:06:13 | |
but a fancy guy with sports cars and gorgeous blondes | 1:06:13 | 1:06:17 | |
and, living, you know, a life that didn't seem as real as those | 1:06:17 | 1:06:21 | |
people who were his core audience wanted it to be. | 1:06:21 | 1:06:25 | |
And at the top of the list were the music critics. | 1:06:25 | 1:06:28 | |
They were really unhappy. | 1:06:28 | 1:06:29 | |
So at the very beginning, what was your conclusion about what | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
did Rod need next? | 1:06:35 | 1:06:37 | |
What I thought we had to do was build a pyramid that would get him | 1:06:37 | 1:06:42 | |
back to what he should be doing, and what he did so well. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:45 | |
-Mark. -Ow! | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
Did you feel you'd been sort of lost for a while and somehow recovered? | 1:06:47 | 1:06:51 | |
-Erm...through the '80s? -Through those mid-'80s, yeah. | 1:06:51 | 1:06:57 | |
It was cloudy, the '80s. I can't remember too much about me that... | 1:06:57 | 1:07:01 | |
-I'm moving on a bit now and I am moving to... -We are moving on. | 1:07:01 | 1:07:05 | |
I am moving on to a period where those mid-'80s were | 1:07:05 | 1:07:08 | |
-not your finest hours, where they? -No. -So let's just move on. | 1:07:08 | 1:07:13 | |
-Shall we gloss over them? -Yes, let's just do that. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:15 | |
Post Do Ya Think I'm Sexy? | 1:07:15 | 1:07:17 | |
Pre Downtown Train, I think | 1:07:17 | 1:07:21 | |
that was the lost years as far as Rod going into the studio | 1:07:21 | 1:07:26 | |
and making great music was concerned. | 1:07:26 | 1:07:29 | |
You carried on into the '80s and everything, | 1:07:29 | 1:07:31 | |
but Downtown Train just redefined all of that. | 1:07:31 | 1:07:35 | |
# ..Will I see you tonight? | 1:07:35 | 1:07:39 | |
# On a downtown train? # | 1:07:39 | 1:07:42 | |
But then you take a Tom Waits song and it is a brilliant success. | 1:07:42 | 1:07:47 | |
-Downtown Train? -Downtown Train, yeah. | 1:07:47 | 1:07:50 | |
# ..On a downtown train... # | 1:07:50 | 1:07:52 | |
# ..I know your window and I know it's late | 1:08:01 | 1:08:05 | |
# I know your stairs... # | 1:08:05 | 1:08:07 | |
Rod was back. The critics loved him and that same year he fell in love. | 1:08:07 | 1:08:12 | |
She was the stunning 21-year-old New Zealand model | 1:08:17 | 1:08:21 | |
and fitness instructor Rachel Hunter. | 1:08:21 | 1:08:23 | |
You fall in love with Rachel and then the marriage doesn't succeed. | 1:08:25 | 1:08:29 | |
-It was good for a few years. -Yeah. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:33 | |
Do you want to talk about the good years? | 1:08:33 | 1:08:35 | |
They were great, they were good years. | 1:08:35 | 1:08:37 | |
We had two wonderful children, we were madly in love | 1:08:37 | 1:08:40 | |
but, to be honest with you, she was far too young. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:43 | |
I remember my sister said at the wedding that she was too young, | 1:08:43 | 1:08:47 | |
"Far too young for our Roddy, you know," | 1:08:47 | 1:08:49 | |
she said as she sat in the church and she was right. | 1:08:49 | 1:08:52 | |
# ..The congregation sang We knelt and prayed | 1:08:52 | 1:08:59 | |
# As we stood before God... # | 1:08:59 | 1:09:02 | |
And Mary was right. | 1:09:02 | 1:09:04 | |
The relationship lasted eight years | 1:09:04 | 1:09:06 | |
and then Rod was hit with the news that Rachel wanted to leave him. | 1:09:06 | 1:09:10 | |
But he had just started a two-week run at Earls Court when Rachel came | 1:09:11 | 1:09:17 | |
and gave him the news that, | 1:09:17 | 1:09:18 | |
as a song on the new album says, it's over. | 1:09:18 | 1:09:21 | |
And he was devastated but he played every one of those shows. | 1:09:21 | 1:09:26 | |
Came offstage in tears and he really went into quiet depression. | 1:09:28 | 1:09:36 | |
# ..I don't want our kids to suffer | 1:09:36 | 1:09:39 | |
# Can we talk to one another? | 1:09:39 | 1:09:42 | |
# I was once your wife, your lover It's gone now | 1:09:42 | 1:09:48 | |
# All the pain and all the grieving | 1:09:48 | 1:09:50 | |
# When did we stop believing? | 1:09:50 | 1:09:53 | |
# Too late now, stop the bleeding it's gone now... # | 1:09:53 | 1:09:57 | |
You were rejected and it pulled you down, didn't it? | 1:09:59 | 1:10:03 | |
Yes, it did. | 1:10:03 | 1:10:05 | |
-It was hard. -And you went to therapists. -Yeah. -How was that? | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
Fucking therapists! I can't tell you what they said. It is in the book. | 1:10:10 | 1:10:15 | |
I will have to swear to tell the story. | 1:10:15 | 1:10:17 | |
You can swear, it is all right. | 1:10:17 | 1:10:18 | |
The first therapist I went to said, "Why don't you get yourself a cat?" | 1:10:18 | 1:10:25 | |
"Is that the best you can come up with?" | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
And the male therapist I went to, get ready for this, girls, | 1:10:28 | 1:10:30 | |
I walked in, he said, "Don't worry about it. | 1:10:30 | 1:10:32 | |
-"You have seen one -BLEEP, -you've seen them all." That was therapy for me. | 1:10:32 | 1:10:38 | |
That was therapy? It sounds like that was in Beverly Hills. | 1:10:38 | 1:10:40 | |
-Beverly Hills therapy, yes. -Within months, of course... | 1:10:40 | 1:10:44 | |
Yeah, I went for a routine check-up | 1:10:45 | 1:10:48 | |
and they found a little node on my... Not on my vocal chords, | 1:10:48 | 1:10:53 | |
on my thyroid chord, thyroid, so I was whipped into hospital | 1:10:53 | 1:10:57 | |
and out of the hospital all in the space of 48 hours. | 1:10:57 | 1:11:00 | |
I was very, very, very lucky. | 1:11:00 | 1:11:02 | |
Not only that, but you had to learn to sing again? | 1:11:02 | 1:11:05 | |
Yeah, because what they do is they cut all the way through | 1:11:05 | 1:11:09 | |
your muscles in your throat to get to the thyroid. | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
I really wasn't even speaking very well. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:15 | |
It was like I was a drunk | 1:11:15 | 1:11:16 | |
because I could not pronounce the words correctly. | 1:11:16 | 1:11:19 | |
It took me nine months to be able to get back to be able to do a concert. | 1:11:19 | 1:11:24 | |
Was it scary? Did you ever think, "Am I going to get better?" | 1:11:24 | 1:11:27 | |
You bet your life I did, yeah. I really did. | 1:11:27 | 1:11:30 | |
It was...something I love so much, to this day | 1:11:30 | 1:11:36 | |
and I think people know that when they see me in a show. | 1:11:36 | 1:11:38 | |
It is who I am, it is what I was put on this earth to do | 1:11:38 | 1:11:42 | |
and to have it taken away so abruptly... | 1:11:42 | 1:11:47 | |
But I had plans, I was going to be a landscape gardener. Jesus! | 1:11:47 | 1:11:51 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 1:11:51 | 1:11:53 | |
Miraculously his voice came back and with a deeper range, | 1:11:55 | 1:12:00 | |
more suited to a style of singing he had always longed to try. | 1:12:00 | 1:12:03 | |
# The way you wear your hat | 1:12:05 | 1:12:08 | |
# The way you sip your tea | 1:12:10 | 1:12:14 | |
# The memory of all that | 1:12:14 | 1:12:17 | |
# No, no, they can't take that away from me... # | 1:12:17 | 1:12:23 | |
The night before the first album came out, | 1:12:23 | 1:12:25 | |
I said to Arnold, "I feel like a rock'n'roll traitor. | 1:12:25 | 1:12:27 | |
"They are going to hate me." And I did. I just... | 1:12:27 | 1:12:31 | |
But, you know, I try to explain to people | 1:12:31 | 1:12:34 | |
if songs are good enough for Billie Holiday and they are good | 1:12:34 | 1:12:37 | |
enough for Louis Armstrong and Frank Sinatra - these songs are beautiful. | 1:12:37 | 1:12:42 | |
They are beautiful lyrically, the way they are created, | 1:12:42 | 1:12:45 | |
they are just gorgeous. | 1:12:45 | 1:12:47 | |
# I see trees of green | 1:12:47 | 1:12:51 | |
# Red roses too | 1:12:51 | 1:12:54 | |
# I see them bloom for me and you | 1:12:54 | 1:13:00 | |
# And I think to myself | 1:13:00 | 1:13:06 | |
# What a wonderful world... # | 1:13:06 | 1:13:09 | |
And that proved to be an extraordinary new scene for Rod. | 1:13:09 | 1:13:16 | |
Amazing. It has become the largest-selling, continuous series | 1:13:16 | 1:13:23 | |
of record albums ever recorded, ever. | 1:13:23 | 1:13:28 | |
We've sold over 23 million of them already. | 1:13:28 | 1:13:31 | |
# ..No, you can't take that away from me... # | 1:13:31 | 1:13:37 | |
Killed the critics. | 1:13:37 | 1:13:39 | |
The music critics didn't know how to hate it more | 1:13:39 | 1:13:42 | |
and the more it sold, the more they hated it. | 1:13:42 | 1:13:44 | |
On tour, he never sang very much of The Great American Songbook, | 1:13:47 | 1:13:51 | |
but just the halo effect of it really increased his touring. | 1:13:51 | 1:13:56 | |
# Someone like you makes it easy... # | 1:13:56 | 1:14:00 | |
Everybody cherishes their fantasy of what | 1:14:00 | 1:14:02 | |
they loved about Rod Stewart and people remember where | 1:14:02 | 1:14:06 | |
they were the first time they heard Maggie May. | 1:14:06 | 1:14:08 | |
People know what they were doing it the first time | 1:14:08 | 1:14:10 | |
they heard Tonight's The Night. | 1:14:10 | 1:14:11 | |
It is like these are signposts in people's lives. | 1:14:11 | 1:14:14 | |
CROWD SINGS ALONG | 1:14:14 | 1:14:16 | |
# ..It's all true | 1:14:18 | 1:14:20 | |
# ..Knowing | 1:14:23 | 1:14:26 | |
# That you lied straight-faced | 1:14:26 | 1:14:30 | |
# While I cried | 1:14:30 | 1:14:33 | |
# Still I will look to find a reason to believe... # | 1:14:33 | 1:14:40 | |
I think the reason that Rod stopped writing as many | 1:14:41 | 1:14:46 | |
terrific songwriters do, and Rod really is a marvellous songwriter. | 1:14:46 | 1:14:49 | |
So many of our favourite Rod Stewart songs he wrote, | 1:14:49 | 1:14:52 | |
the music and the lyrics. | 1:14:52 | 1:14:55 | |
He had gotten so outside of life. In the rarefied space you occupy | 1:14:55 | 1:15:00 | |
when you are an international superstar, icon, | 1:15:00 | 1:15:03 | |
what is there to write about? | 1:15:03 | 1:15:05 | |
He would say to me, "What do you want me to write about? | 1:15:05 | 1:15:07 | |
"A song about the gardener charged too much? | 1:15:07 | 1:15:10 | |
"Or there is an incident in the rose bushes on the back lawn? | 1:15:10 | 1:15:12 | |
"What am I going to write a song about?" He had a point. | 1:15:12 | 1:15:15 | |
And then Rod surprised everyone, not least himself, by writing | 1:15:17 | 1:15:21 | |
a hugely popular and acclaimed autobiography. | 1:15:21 | 1:15:25 | |
And in doing so, | 1:15:25 | 1:15:26 | |
he unearthed a rich seam of material for a whole album of original songs, | 1:15:26 | 1:15:32 | |
his first in over 20 years. | 1:15:32 | 1:15:34 | |
His conflict within himself and the ease with which he wrote that book | 1:15:34 | 1:15:39 | |
made him realise that he indeed is a writer. | 1:15:39 | 1:15:43 | |
His relationship with photographer Penny Lancaster seems to have | 1:15:43 | 1:15:47 | |
given him the confidence to write both the book and the new songs. | 1:15:47 | 1:15:51 | |
He had first spotted her on the dancefloor 14 years ago | 1:15:51 | 1:15:55 | |
and was again in love. | 1:15:55 | 1:15:56 | |
# These boots are made for walking | 1:15:56 | 1:15:59 | |
# And that's just what they'll do | 1:15:59 | 1:16:02 | |
# One of these days these boots are going to walk all over you... # | 1:16:02 | 1:16:07 | |
Penny has given Rod another two children | 1:16:07 | 1:16:10 | |
and brought the entire family together. | 1:16:10 | 1:16:13 | |
How did it come about, this album? | 1:16:13 | 1:16:15 | |
How did it emerge for him | 1:16:15 | 1:16:17 | |
because he had not been writing songs for years? | 1:16:17 | 1:16:20 | |
-Not for a long, long time. -He didn't need to, of course. | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
-He didn't need to, no. -The standards were so successful. | 1:16:23 | 1:16:28 | |
I think as the years had gone by he had lost a lot of confidence. | 1:16:28 | 1:16:32 | |
He had lost his belief in writing again, | 1:16:32 | 1:16:35 | |
but the need really sprung forth when he started doing | 1:16:35 | 1:16:39 | |
the autobiography and he started remembering his early years. | 1:16:39 | 1:16:44 | |
It was just one of those moments when all the stars collided | 1:16:44 | 1:16:47 | |
and the right chords and the right mood - it just happens. | 1:16:47 | 1:16:51 | |
He was getting up in the middle of the night with a scrap | 1:16:51 | 1:16:55 | |
piece of paper, a pencil, and writing down. | 1:16:55 | 1:16:58 | |
He would ring them in and say, "Record this. | 1:16:58 | 1:17:01 | |
"Record this message on your phone." | 1:17:01 | 1:17:03 | |
It came out in scraps and bits and you caught hold of it every time. | 1:17:03 | 1:17:07 | |
-Exactly. Catch hold of it and put it down. -He kept surprising himself. | 1:17:07 | 1:17:11 | |
He was like, "I can't believe all these words are coming out." | 1:17:11 | 1:17:14 | |
And, "Quick, quick, quick!" We would be in a restaurant | 1:17:14 | 1:17:16 | |
and he would be grabbing a waiter for a notepad. | 1:17:16 | 1:17:18 | |
This melody, I'd go, "This is fantastic." | 1:17:18 | 1:17:20 | |
Haven't got a microphone, haven't got a tape recorder, | 1:17:20 | 1:17:22 | |
haven't got a pencil I can jot it down. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:24 | |
'That is how Can't Stop Me Now came around.' | 1:17:28 | 1:17:31 | |
I have the melody first, it sounds like a marching band melody. | 1:17:31 | 1:17:35 | |
# Da-da-da-da-da-da! # | 1:17:35 | 1:17:38 | |
# I stood up straight and sign for the record company man | 1:17:38 | 1:17:43 | |
# My enthusiasm filled the room... # | 1:17:43 | 1:17:46 | |
'I don't think with this album,' | 1:17:46 | 1:17:48 | |
I don't think I broke any new ground, but... | 1:17:48 | 1:17:54 | |
it is what I do best | 1:17:54 | 1:17:57 | |
and I have returned to what I do best. | 1:17:57 | 1:17:59 | |
This is perhaps what Rod does best. | 1:18:01 | 1:18:03 | |
Songs from the heart, simple lyrics about his own experience, | 1:18:03 | 1:18:07 | |
sung with a voice designed to deliver emotion. | 1:18:07 | 1:18:11 | |
# You can't stop me now The world is waiting | 1:18:11 | 1:18:16 | |
# It is my turn to stand out in the crowd | 1:18:16 | 1:18:19 | |
# They can't stop me now The tide is turning | 1:18:19 | 1:18:23 | |
# I am going to make you proud | 1:18:23 | 1:18:27 | |
# So proud, so proud, oh yeah... # | 1:18:27 | 1:18:31 | |
And the new songs suggest that he has never strayed very far from home. | 1:18:31 | 1:18:37 | |
Throughout the rock'n'roll years, | 1:18:37 | 1:18:38 | |
his father's influence still hung over everything, | 1:18:38 | 1:18:42 | |
particularly Rod's sense of family. | 1:18:42 | 1:18:44 | |
This is Kimberly. Here is Kimberly. | 1:18:44 | 1:18:47 | |
-Hi. Hi. -This is Ruby. | 1:18:47 | 1:18:50 | |
I don't normally dress like this. Hi, nice to meet you. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:54 | |
This is Liam. | 1:18:54 | 1:18:56 | |
His eight children from five different mothers are all | 1:18:57 | 1:19:00 | |
central to his life | 1:19:00 | 1:19:01 | |
and have kept their ties with the Stewart family home in Britain. | 1:19:01 | 1:19:06 | |
-Father and grandfather. -Yes. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:10 | |
Sorry. Our dad has to be the make-up artist. | 1:19:13 | 1:19:15 | |
So the first question is a collective question, | 1:19:15 | 1:19:18 | |
if that is permissible, | 1:19:18 | 1:19:19 | |
which is his sense of family. | 1:19:19 | 1:19:23 | |
It is like we will have to take care of each other, we are like | 1:19:23 | 1:19:26 | |
a clan of some sort and we do. | 1:19:26 | 1:19:30 | |
-A football team. -Yeah, a football team. | 1:19:30 | 1:19:33 | |
Dad definitely instilled that in us at a very young age, | 1:19:33 | 1:19:36 | |
that family was very important. | 1:19:36 | 1:19:39 | |
And so he gave us lots of brothers and sisters. | 1:19:39 | 1:19:43 | |
THEY LAUGH | 1:19:43 | 1:19:45 | |
It is like Buster Keaton walking across the set, isn't it? | 1:19:47 | 1:19:51 | |
It is Sunday, somewhere in Essex, not so very far from the sweet shop | 1:19:59 | 1:20:03 | |
in north London, which was the Stewart family home. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:07 | |
# May the good Lord be with you | 1:20:07 | 1:20:09 | |
# Every road you roam... # | 1:20:09 | 1:20:12 | |
# And may sunshine and happiness... # | 1:20:15 | 1:20:17 | |
A typical weekend for Rod is getting friends and family together | 1:20:17 | 1:20:22 | |
for Sunday lunch and kicking a ball around in his back garden - | 1:20:22 | 1:20:27 | |
where he happens to have a full-size football pitch. | 1:20:27 | 1:20:30 | |
-Penny. -How are you? -How nice to see you. -You too. Say hi. | 1:20:42 | 1:20:46 | |
-Say hi, Alan. -Not playing football? | 1:20:46 | 1:20:49 | |
Today, former Celtic players have joined Rod | 1:20:49 | 1:20:52 | |
and his elder brothers, Bob who is 77 and Don the referee who is 83. | 1:20:52 | 1:20:58 | |
-Football is in the DNA of the Stewart family? -Very much so. | 1:21:01 | 1:21:05 | |
Absolutely. All comes from my dad. | 1:21:05 | 1:21:08 | |
This sense of family that you all have and Rod has very, | 1:21:08 | 1:21:11 | |
very strongly, has it been all through your lives together? | 1:21:11 | 1:21:15 | |
I would say yes, definitely. | 1:21:15 | 1:21:18 | |
He seemed to like to get all his family around him. | 1:21:18 | 1:21:22 | |
He never seems to be without them and I think it is like that. | 1:21:22 | 1:21:26 | |
We do keep together, yes. | 1:21:26 | 1:21:29 | |
It is very clear to me, listening to him talk about all of you, | 1:21:29 | 1:21:34 | |
that he is deeply attached to all of you | 1:21:34 | 1:21:36 | |
and to his family in a way that quite a lot of people who go off on another | 1:21:36 | 1:21:39 | |
journey into a different world lose touch, but he has not lost touch. | 1:21:39 | 1:21:44 | |
No, he has not lost touch with his roots, definitely not. | 1:21:44 | 1:21:48 | |
-Wherever you go around Rod, he is surrounded by... -Love. -By love. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:54 | |
-Is he good at giving it as well as getting it? -Oh, yes. | 1:21:56 | 1:21:59 | |
Yes, definitely. | 1:21:59 | 1:22:00 | |
He gives a lot of love and I always say to him, | 1:22:00 | 1:22:03 | |
"Mum and dead are watching you. Dad especially." | 1:22:03 | 1:22:06 | |
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