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You're about to see the second part of Robert Weide's

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absorbing documentary on Allan Stewart Konigsberg,

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better known to you and I as Woody Allen.

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Picking up in the early '80s,

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tonight's film explorers Allen's later career,

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from the magical Purple Rose Of Cairo

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to his most recent forays here in Europe,

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including his biggest commercial success to date -

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2011's Midnight In Paris, which picked up the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay.

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There have been hits and misses along the way.

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Weide's film probes both a creative and a personal life

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that has captured hearts and minds and headlines

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across the past six decades,

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to reveal the often elusive man behind the glasses.

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This programme contains some strong language

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We're so used to conceiving of Woody Allen as a New York filmmaker

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that it's actually come as quite a shock

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to find him making films in England or in Spain,

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but the truth is he's still the same filmmaker.

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I mean, he was a metropolitan filmmaker

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and he's become a cosmopolitan filmmaker.

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He's still Woody Allen, but he's just changed -politans.

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The inspiration of London for Match Point,

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of Barcelona for Vicky Cristina Barcelona,

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of Paris for Midnight In Paris,

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and his next film will be set in Rome,

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I think these are providing a wonderful way

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for Woody Allen to recharge his cinematic batteries.

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For example, we think we've seen everything of Paris onscreen, probably, by now,

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and maybe we have,

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but, in Midnight In Paris, it's the nocturnal city

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that obviously animates not only the character Gil,

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but Woody Allen's imagination.

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It's those winding, dark streets,

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this geographical or spatial dislocation

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that creates the time warp in Midnight In Paris.

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In other words, it comes from the place

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that, suddenly, we're transported to the 1920s.

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Oh, hi, Mr Hemingway.

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The assignment was to take the hill.

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There were four of us, five, if you counted Vicente,

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but he had lost his hand when a grenade went off

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and couldn't fight as he could when I first met him.

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And he was young and brave and the hill was soggy

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from days of rain, and it sloped down toward a road,

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and there were many German soldiers on the road.

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And the idea was to aim for the first group and,

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if our aim was true, we could delay them.

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Were you scared?

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Of what?

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Getting killed.

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You'll never write well if you fear dying.

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-Do you?

-Yeah, I do.

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I'd say it's probably my greatest fear, actually.

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Well, it's something all men before you have done, all men will do.

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I know, I know.

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Have you ever made love to a truly great woman?

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Actually, my fiancee is pretty sexy.

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And when you make love to her, you feel true and beautiful passion

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and you, for at least that moment, lose your fear of death.

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No, that doesn't happen.

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The very geography of the world

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is inspiring Woody Allen in this phase of his career,

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much like New York City inspired his first 25, 30 years.

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He said, you know, one of the good things

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about leaving New York is that he shot

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just about every street corner that he could.

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He came to the point where, suddenly,

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it became more difficult to make films in New York

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because they're so expensive to do

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and he was getting money to go abroad to do it.

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But I think, in the end, the films are the films,

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the stories are the stories.

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So, instead of from Long Island, people came from London.

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I forgot to tell you that Sidney Zion died.

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-Who? What?

-Sidney Zion.

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Oh, Sidney Zion died? Oh!

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And Gwathmey.

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Charlie Gwathmey died?

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Yes, he had esophageal cancer.

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Really?

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Yes, so that's my news of the day.

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Oh, my God. Really?

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One after the other, the deaths have just been

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mounting up. It's awful.

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Well, there were always all those deaths,

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these just happen to be people you know.

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It's not like there was ever a lull in the number of deaths.

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I know them all.

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I don't do any preparation.

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I don't do any rehearsals.

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Most of the times, I don't even know what we're going to shoot.

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When I come, they hand me the couple of pages,

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the material that we're going to do for the day,

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and I see what it is that I'm in for.

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You know, cos I don't read the script after I'm finished with it and I rewrite it.

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I don't read it again

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because it gets stale to me and I start to hate it.

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He has a great feeling for staging.

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You have to know where the camera should be

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in order to tell what the scene is about

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and he has a great feeling about where the camera should be

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and then what part of the set you want to see.

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He doesn't like tricks,

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he doesn't like effects, he doesn't use gadgets.

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He likes collaborators around him.

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You know, it's just one word,

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actually, I would say, it's simplicity.

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He is a director who believes in the written word.

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It's not rocket science. This is not quantum physics.

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If you're the writer of the story,

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you know what you want the audience to see

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because you've written it.

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It's just storytelling, and you tell it.

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There's no big deal to it.

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MUSIC: Stompin' At The Savoy

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One night, we were in Trader Vic's

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and we uncharacteristically started talking about the future.

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He used the phrase I have endless ideas for movies

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and I remember it felt like the earth moved.

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I just thought, it would take me a year

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to have one idea about a movie,

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And he's able to think of making one or two or three or... Many?

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I might even have thought, somewhat condescendingly,

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Well, he may find out that it's not all that easy.

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This is my collection.

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This is how I'll start,

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and there's all kinds of scraps

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and things that are written on hotel things

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and I'll, you know, ponder these things.

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I'll pull these out and I'll dump them here like this.

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I go through this all the time,

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every time I start a project.

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And I sit here like this and I'll look at -

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oh, don't like that.

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Right.

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No.

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MAN: Read me one note off of one piece of paper.

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A note here would be

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a man inherits all the magic tricks

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of a great magician.

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Now, that's all I have there, but I could see, you know,

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a story forming where some little jerk like myself,

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at an auction or at some opportunity,

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buys all those illusions and, you know,

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boxes and guillotines and things,

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and... Leading me to some kind of interesting adventure -

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going into one of those boxes and maybe suddenly showing up

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in a different timeframe or in a different country

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or in a different place altogether,

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or, you know, some kind of thing.

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And, you know, I'll spend an hour thinking of that,

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and it'll go no place and then I'll go on to the next one.

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If he has an idea - and he has a lot of ideas -

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if he has an idea and he starts to write it,

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and it seems like it's going to work out,

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the writing of it doesn't take him very long.

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I've never seen anybody write so fast

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and perhaps that explains, to a large extent,

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why he's made so many films.

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If you want to compare Woody Allen, in the realm of productivity,

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you actually have to reach back an era.

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You have to reach back to the 1930s,

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when John Ford and Howard Hawks and Raoul Walsh

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and guys like that were making more than one film a year.

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They we're doing it under the studio system.

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They were basically part of the dream factory.

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Now, Woody Allen is doing a film a year,

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and writing a film a year, for 40 years.

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That's unheard of.

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That's almost without precedent, except for Ingmar Bergman.

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Who the hell is good for 20 years?

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This guy's been good for 40 years.

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Who's good for ten years?

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Five years?

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He's kind of peerless.

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The closest figure to Woody Allen would be Babe Ruth.

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Babe Ruth led the American League

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with 54 home runs one year. The next guy had 13.

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Not everybody has the staying power,

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not everybody has the tenacity,

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and not everybody has so much to say about life continually.

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So, from a purely endurance point of view,

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longevity and quantity

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is an achievement, yes, but not the valuable one.

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The achievement that I'm going for is

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to try and make a great film,

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and that has eluded me over the decades.

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LEONARD MALTIN: After a pretty amazing ten-year run

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of building goodwill with critics and audiences alike,

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and then experiencing this misfire, as it was seen in many circles,

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with Stardust Memories,

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it was clear that he was not going to be boxed into

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any kind of corner or pigeonhole,

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he was going to do what he felt like doing.

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So the question remained - what's next?

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I was going to continue to make funny films.

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I mean, I was not trying to get away from it.

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In fact, probably the next film I make...

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I haven't made a really funny film for a while.

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I would like to try that again.

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If Stardust Memories was a misstep,

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then Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy was a return to strength.

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He was actually going back to a known area,

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which was pure comedy.

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A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy is the first farce

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he's done, really, since Love And Death.

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CLATTER

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It was released as a summer movie.

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People thought, "Ah, you know, here comes Woody again."

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And I think that the studio backers, you know,

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had to be heaving a sigh of relief that it was in colour, as well.

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And I thought I'd like to do something

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in the country, just for fun,

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just to see the country as a beautiful thing,

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the way I see the city, just for amusement.

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-GORDON WILLIS:

-Somebody saw the movie and said, "it was the first time

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"I've ever come out of a movie whistling the photography."

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You know, so I thought it was pretty funny.

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The other aspect of Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy

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is that it introduces Mia Farrow to his body of work.

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-Yes, we've met before.

-Ariel told me about you.

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It was such a funny coincidence when Leopold said

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that you were his cousin's husband,

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because I told him we were old friends.

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Acquaintances. We're like...

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Mia wrote me some fan letters over the years.

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Then, once, I had a New Year's Eve party

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and I said, "you know, why don't we have lunch sometime?"

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And she said, "sure."

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Boy, if I had only acted that time, you know,

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when were at the brook that night!

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-Yeah.

-It just haunts me.

-Yeah, me too.

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You know, not a week has gone by that I haven't dreamt about you.

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We made a date, we had lunch, and then we started going out.

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SNEEZE

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Hey, are you OK?

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Eventually, we started going out in a more serious way and then,

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I got to know her as an actress.

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Well, you know, for a woman, the years slip away quickly.

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Don't tell me you're getting scared.

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Maybe.

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But why? I don't understand. You're so beautiful and charming.

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You could get any man that you wanted.

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-Not you.

-Me?

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I think, amongst all the love affairs

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I was running through in those days,

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you were the one person that could've stopped me.

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She was very nervous when we first started working together.

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She needn't have been.

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Then it was a pleasure to work with her. She was always easy to work with.

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If you lusted after me so, why weren't you also in love with me?

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Can the two feelings really be separate?

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Mia Farrow became his muse

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and he began to show us a range in Mia Farrow

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that had been denied us by, say,

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Rosemary's Baby or Hurricane, you know.

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Just sides of her we were not be able to see,,

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and Woody Allen was able to bring her out in all her rainbow of colours.

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And through her, he explored a number of wonderful modes of filmmaking.

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And, in a way, by so doing, he's also testing his own range,

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he's fulfilling every key on the pianoboard that he's got.

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He just runs the scales in his own talent through the '80s,

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with Mia Farrow as his partner.

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She was an excellent actress with a very big range.

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You know, she could play comedy and broad comedy,

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she could play serious things,

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and I felt no one had really exploited her much

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on the screen, and so I wrote roles for her

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and she never disappointed, she always came though

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and did a terrific job for me.

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That's what muse is, you know, the more you understand the person,

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then you can bring out these different qualities in them, you know?

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And he did it with Mia for years.

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Like, who would have ever thought that Mia could be

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this actress in some of these films?

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Broadway Danny Rose - I mean, who would've thought that she could've played

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these different characters with those accents?

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I mean, you didn't think of Mia as that kind of actress, but he knew her.

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You know, I never feel guilty.

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I just think you got to do what you got to do.

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You know? Life's short.

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You don't get any medals for being a boy scout.

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We always ate up at Rao's,

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an Italian restaurant uptown, and Mrs Rao, Annie Rao,

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would, you know, come and sit at the table with us and chat.

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She always had the high blonde hair and smoked a cigarette

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and wore the sunglasses

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and she was a great character, a wonderful woman.

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And Mia said to me,

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"boy, I'd love to play a woman like that sometime. I'd be great."

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And then, when I was going to do Broadway Danny Rose, it was perfect.

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Johnny's all right. He was really nice to me when my marriage fell apart.

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Yes? And what did your husband do?

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Um, a little bookmaking, some loan sharking, extortion, like that.

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So he's a professional man. What did you do, you divorced him, or you got a separation, or what?

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Some guy shot him in the eyes.

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-Really, he's blind?

-Dead.

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He's dead, of course, because the bullets go right through.

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MALTIN: By this time, if you were following Woody,

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you never knew what was going to come next,

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what tone it would take, what shape it would take.

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And who would think that the same man

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who made Broadway Danny Rose would also give us Zelig?

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the relationship of the private person to celebrity

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is the theme that he inaugurates in Stardust Memories,

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but which he continues in Zelig.

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NARRATOR: Leonard Zelig continues to astound scientists

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At New York's Manhattan hospital,

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where numerous tests have led nowhere

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in determining the nature of this astonishing manifestation.

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And it's done in more radical comedic terms.

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There's a stylistic thing - he discovered

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this optical process where he could bleed himself into

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all these actual photographs of Woodrow Wilson and whomever.

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I wanted to do it like a real, actual documentary, where you just about couldn't tell the difference.

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NARRATOR: His transformation into a rabbi

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is so realistic that certain Frenchmen suggest

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he be sent to Devil's Island.

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And I thought the theme of the character

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who was always trying to be who he was around

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was a universal psychological theme.

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NARRATOR: As the men discuss their obesity,

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an initially reticent Zelig joins in,

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swelling himself to a miraculous 250 pounds.

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Next, in the presence of two negro men,

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Zelig rapidly becomes one himself.

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What will they think of next?

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and I felt that that, ultimately, would lead to Fascism because

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you would always be saying what the crowd wanted to hear

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and giving up your own beliefs and personality.

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MALTIN: There is Leonard Zelig, sitting next to Adolf Hitler,

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and the Mia Farrow character sees him blending in, as usual,

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and yet, it's him noticing her waving at him

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that snaps him out of that.

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So, ultimately, it's love that brings him back to earth.

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-LAUDER:

-I like purple rose of Cairo very much.

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The Mia Farrow character has a terrible existence.

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Her husband, Danny Aiello, is an abuser.

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The only relief she gets is movies,

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so she goes to see the same movie over and over again.

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She can't find any meaning in her day-to-day existence,

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but the escapism that movies provide is the only meaning.

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OK, that's it, but at least she has this.

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This is something that encourages her to hope.

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Things are bad, but it's going to turn out OK.

0:17:580:18:01

I think that's such a clever film.

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I intended it, you know,

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on a much more pretentious, deep level, you know,

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that people are faced, in life,

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with choosing between reality and fantasy

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and it's very pleasant to choose fantasy,

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but that way lies madness

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and you're forced, finally, to choose reality

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and reality always disappoints, always hurts you.

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You know, that was what made me do the film and, of course,

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the idea that someone comes off the screen, that was the gimmick.

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You know, I still can't get over the fact that,

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24 hours ago, I was in an Egyptian tomb.

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I didn't know any of you wonderful people,

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and here I am now, I'm on the verge of

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a madcap Manhattan weekend.

0:18:460:18:50

My god, you must really love this picture.

0:18:500:18:53

Me?

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You've been here all day and I've seen you here twice before.

0:18:550:18:58

-You mean me?

-Yes, you, you!

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This is the fifth time you're seeing this.

0:19:010:19:03

Henry, come here, quickly.

0:19:030:19:05

I got to speak to you.

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GASPS MAN: Oh, my God!

0:19:080:19:09

-SHE SCREAMS

-Listen, old sport, you're on the wrong side.

0:19:090:19:12

Tom, get back here! We're in the middle of the story!

0:19:120:19:15

Leave me alone. I'm going to have a look around.

0:19:150:19:17

-You go on without me. Who are you?

-C-Cecilia.

0:19:170:19:20

-Let's get out of here and go somewhere we can talk.

-But you're in the movie.

0:19:200:19:23

Wrong, Cecilia, I'm free! After 2,000 performances

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and the same monotonous routine, I'm free!

0:19:260:19:28

-Call father Donnelly!

-Tom!

0:19:280:19:32

Oh, boy! So that's what popcorn tastes like.

0:19:330:19:37

Been watching people eat it for all those performances.

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-LAX:

-The role of the handsome young guy in the piece

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was played by Jeff Daniels,

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who was really quite wonderful in it.

0:19:450:19:47

Woody's not afraid to change cast members

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as he goes along, if something doesn't work out,

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and the best example of this is Michael Keaton in Purple Rose Of Cairo.

0:19:520:19:56

He greatly admired Michael Keaton and still does,

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but never took the time to meet him and then,

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once he was there, just felt he was so contemporary

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for a movie that took place in the 1930s,

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that it just didn't feel right.

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And there have been other instances where,

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for whatever reason, an actor hasn't worked out.

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I would say that that doesn't happen often,

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but, when it does,

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he's not at all averse to saying, "we just need to start this over."

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He shot September twice,

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with different casts,

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and that, I think he would say, was a writing problem.

0:20:280:20:32

He just felt he didn't nail it.

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So he completely recast the movie, for the most part,

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and moved people around, as if it were a repertory company.

0:20:380:20:40

Casting was just a process that he had very little patience for.

0:20:400:20:47

You know, when I first started, I never even met the actors.

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I had my assistant director meet them and I would sit back

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in the corner of the room somewhere and look.

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And only over the years did I gradually start

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to speak to the actors, and I have nothing to say to them.

0:21:020:21:05

We used to have three people, every five minutes,

0:21:050:21:07

in to meet him because

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he didn't want to have to make much conversation.

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That was very painful for him, very hard for him.

0:21:110:21:14

For the smaller roles, the meetings were very, very quick.

0:21:140:21:18

I always felt bad for these actors that would come in to the office,

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they were being sent up for a role.

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They'd ring the bell, I'd let them in,

0:21:240:21:25

they'd wait for a second, and we'd go in

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and I'd introduce them - "this is so and so."

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And they would come marching into the office, like,

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expecting, you know, a half-hour with Mr Allen.

0:21:330:21:35

And Woody would stand up and remain standing and say,

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"Oh, hi, you know, I just wanted to take a look at you

0:21:380:21:40

"and Juliet thought you might be right for something and... OK, so that's it."

0:21:400:21:45

The whole thing is awkward. They have nothing to say.

0:21:450:21:47

I have nothing to say. They're being looked at.

0:21:470:21:52

They feel fat, you know.

0:21:520:21:56

It's terrible.

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And he would sort of, like, shake their hands and say,

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"thank you for coming."

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And they'd be ready to sit down and that was it.

0:22:020:22:05

So I'd walk out and they would always look at me

0:22:050:22:08

at the end like, "Are you kidding? Is that it?"

0:22:080:22:10

And I'd say, "that's it."

0:22:100:22:12

You know, ten seconds, sometimes.

0:22:120:22:15

And, of course, Woody feels

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"but I'm doing them a favour. They can go on with their day. They've other things to do.

0:22:160:22:20

"They don't want to hang around here."

0:22:200:22:22

And I keep saying, "Oh, yes, they do, they'd love nothing more."

0:22:220:22:24

Sometimes, for the bigger actors, they were just flat-out offered a role.

0:22:240:22:28

His production office connected with my people in Los Angeles

0:22:280:22:32

and they just offered me the part.

0:22:320:22:34

I got a call from my agent, asking me if I was available

0:22:340:22:37

for a Woody Allen movie and I said,

0:22:370:22:41

"Yeah. Yeah, I'm available."

0:22:410:22:43

We have this very elaborate drop-off system.

0:22:450:22:48

The material does not go through the agents.

0:22:480:22:50

The material goes right, directly, to the actor.

0:22:500:22:54

Of course, it was very secretive

0:22:540:22:55

and so the script was brought over.

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Someone who flew from New York with it

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and then drove to my house in northern California.

0:23:000:23:03

Then he told me, "you're going to get a script.

0:23:030:23:05

"It's going to be hand-delivered. You're going to get it at 10:30

0:23:050:23:08

"and you have to return it by 4:30."

0:23:080:23:10

CLEARS THROAT I go, "Oh. All right."

0:23:100:23:13

Someone literally sits on the stoop of their building, waiting till they finish it,

0:23:130:23:17

Or, occasionally, lets them keep it overnight.

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All I remember is that the script arrived

0:23:210:23:23

and it came hand-delivered and I had to hand it back

0:23:230:23:26

and it was all a very secret process.

0:23:260:23:30

He always includes a handwritten note with the script to the actor.

0:23:300:23:34

The next day, I was in the office,

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the script was delivered, and there's a cover letter.

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And there was a letter from Woody.

0:23:390:23:41

He sent me an e-mail.

0:23:410:23:43

-I got a letter.

-A note, from him.

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It's obviously written on a typewriter.

0:23:450:23:48

Handwritten.

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With the odd mistake, you know, X-ed out.

0:23:490:23:51

I actually printed it out and I put it on my wall.

0:23:510:23:53

I will frame that letter.

0:23:530:23:54

I probably have the letter in a drawer.

0:23:540:23:56

And it said that "you may remember me.

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"You did a movie called Melinda And Melinda.

0:23:590:24:01

"I was the director." HE LAUGHS

0:24:010:24:02

"I plan on shooting this film Match Point in London this summer..."

0:24:020:24:06

"I have this movie that I wrote..."

0:24:060:24:08

"And I think you'd be really good for the part of Boris."

0:24:080:24:12

"I would love for you to play the part of Nola Rice."

0:24:120:24:14

"I'd be interested in you doing it. You may not like it. You may like it. If you don't like it, it's fine."

0:24:140:24:19

"I hope I can get to work with you in this lifetime."

0:24:190:24:22

"If you feel like there's something there that you want to do, that would be great."

0:24:220:24:25

"Feel free to modify some of the lines, if you feel like."

0:24:250:24:29

"If you want to change the lines, that's fine with me.

0:24:290:24:32

"Please read it and I think you have something to contribute to this part."

0:24:320:24:36

-I don't know, maybe I made that part up.

-SHE CHUCKLES

0:24:360:24:39

As a fan of his movies, every time I go,

0:24:390:24:42

I see that the cast always works.

0:24:420:24:45

It's like everybody's perfect for each character,

0:24:450:24:48

and he can make those decisions in five seconds.

0:24:480:24:51

Just saying, "Hi, nice to meet you" to somebody,

0:24:510:24:53

he knows if that person is right for that character.

0:24:530:24:56

Well, that's the whole secret, is if you hire great people

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and you don't mess them up with a lot of analysis

0:25:010:25:06

and conversation and speculation and nonsense,

0:25:060:25:10

if you just get out of their way and shut up,

0:25:100:25:14

they give you the performance that has made them

0:25:140:25:17

the great performer that they are.

0:25:170:25:20

-Are you angry with me?

-No.

0:25:200:25:24

Do you feel, um... Are you disenchanted with our marriage?

0:25:240:25:27

-I didn't say that.

-Are you in love with someone else?

0:25:270:25:30

My God! What is this, the Gestapo? No.

0:25:300:25:34

Well, what? What are you not telling me?

0:25:340:25:36

What kind of interrogation...?

0:25:360:25:37

Supposing I said, "yes, I am disenchanted,

0:25:370:25:40

"I am in love with someone else"?

0:25:400:25:41

Are you?

0:25:410:25:43

No!

0:25:430:25:44

I used to always write from the point of view of the male,

0:25:440:25:48

and always a particular perspective,

0:25:480:25:52

the comic male, the wisecracking comic male,

0:25:520:25:57

and then I met Diane Keaton,

0:25:570:25:59

I got a different perspective,

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I saw a lot of things through her eyes,

0:26:020:26:04

and I started writing for women.

0:26:040:26:07

And one of the things that I gained was

0:26:070:26:10

a female's perspective.

0:26:100:26:13

And it was, eventually, more interesting to me

0:26:130:26:18

than the male perspective

0:26:180:26:21

and I attribute that to my experience with her.

0:26:210:26:24

I just want a salad. You really think I'm a loser, don't you?

0:26:240:26:27

-What do...? You're being ridiculous.

-You are, holly. Stop it.

0:26:270:26:29

-You treat me like a loser.

-How?

0:26:290:26:32

You never have any faith in my plans, you always undercut my enthusiasm.

0:26:320:26:36

Not so, no. I think I've been very supportive.

0:26:360:26:39

I try to give you honest, constructive advice,

0:26:390:26:41

I'm always happy to help you financially, I think I've gone out of my way

0:26:410:26:45

to introduce you to interesting single men.

0:26:450:26:47

-Losers! All losers.

-You're too demanding!

0:26:470:26:49

You know, I could always tell what you thought of me by the type of men you fixed me up with.

0:26:490:26:53

-You're crazy! That's not true!

-Hey, Hannah, I know I'm mediocre.

0:26:530:26:56

Oh, will you stop attacking Hannah? She's going through a really rough time right now.

0:26:560:26:59

-Why are you so upset?

-You know, you've been picking on her

0:26:590:27:02

ever since she came in here. Now just leave her alone for a while. I'm just suffocating.

0:27:020:27:06

I think Hannah And Her Sisters

0:27:060:27:08

is the movie that people expected after Manhattan, and when he satisfied that,

0:27:080:27:12

he was back to even deeper strength than he ever was before.

0:27:120:27:15

Now, he's in the Bergman zone, quite literally.

0:27:150:27:18

He's got Max Von Sydow in there, but in a very relaxed way.

0:27:180:27:21

There's nothing imitative of Bergman.

0:27:210:27:24

They're simply, you know, drinking from Bergman's cup at Bergman's dinner table, but,

0:27:240:27:28

at the same time, bringing Woody Allen's sensibility to the proceedings.

0:27:280:27:32

But the worst are the fundamentalist preachers -

0:27:320:27:35

third-rate con men,

0:27:350:27:38

telling the poor suckers that watch them that they speak for Jesus

0:27:380:27:41

And to please send in money.

0:27:410:27:43

Money, money, money!

0:27:430:27:45

If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name,

0:27:450:27:50

he'd never stop throwing up.

0:27:500:27:52

My favourite is Hannah And Her Sisters.

0:27:520:27:53

It had one component which I love,

0:27:530:27:56

which Woody loathes, much of the time, which is some sentiment.

0:27:560:28:00

It's only optimistic in the sections that I failed.

0:28:000:28:04

I mean, I wanted it to be a melancholy film,

0:28:040:28:06

for the most part, but, for some reason -

0:28:060:28:08

incompetence in the directing or the writing or something -

0:28:080:28:12

the emphasis shifted so that it was perceived by audiences

0:28:120:28:16

as more up and optimistic than I had intended.

0:28:160:28:21

Early on in the film, there's some suspicion he has a brain tumour.

0:28:210:28:26

-THINKING:

-'It's over.

0:28:260:28:27

'I'm face-to-face with eternity.

0:28:270:28:31

'Not later, but now.

0:28:310:28:34

'I'm so frightened,

0:28:340:28:36

'I can't move or speak or breathe.'

0:28:360:28:40

Well, you're just fine. There's absolutely nothing here at all.

0:28:420:28:45

And, finally, he finds out he's OK and he comes out of the hospital

0:28:450:28:48

and he's jumping through the street,

0:28:480:28:50

and then he stops and he realises that, you know,

0:28:500:28:52

I'm not going to die from this brain tumour now,

0:28:520:28:55

but I'm going to die someday

0:28:550:28:57

and then, he goes back into a blue funk.

0:28:570:29:00

And then he begins to look around at different religions

0:29:000:29:02

and he's thinking of becoming a Catholic,

0:29:020:29:04

so he goes to see a priest, the priest gives him some books.

0:29:040:29:08

And then we get a scene, he's at a high mass.

0:29:140:29:16

He's way in the back, he's the outsider looking in,

0:29:160:29:19

the non-believer looking in.

0:29:190:29:21

The character wants to believe, but he just can't.

0:29:210:29:23

Mom, come out!

0:29:230:29:24

Of course there's a God, you idiot. You don't believe in God?

0:29:240:29:28

But if there's a God, then why is there so much evil in the world?

0:29:280:29:31

Just on a simplistic level. Why were there Nazis?

0:29:310:29:34

Tell him, Max.

0:29:340:29:36

How the hell do I know why there were Nazis?

0:29:360:29:38

I don't know how the can opener works.

0:29:380:29:40

I do think it's on his mind.

0:29:400:29:41

I do think that he thinks about those things.

0:29:410:29:43

I think that, when you're extremely sensitive,

0:29:430:29:45

which is what he is,

0:29:450:29:47

you're very in tune with what life is,

0:29:470:29:52

and it has to end, and it can be very cruel.

0:29:520:29:56

And I think that these are the issues that haunt him.

0:29:560:29:59

I do believe that's the reason why it's a theme in his movies,

0:29:590:30:02

is because he does think about it a lot.

0:30:020:30:03

Woody had said, you know, making a film preoccupies him

0:30:030:30:07

and so he doesn't have to spend the whole day

0:30:070:30:09

thinking about the meaning of existence,

0:30:090:30:12

but he spends the day making a film about the meaning of existence.

0:30:120:30:15

So it doesn't distract him, in the usual sense,

0:30:150:30:17

I mean, he's not out, playing golf or playing tennis,

0:30:170:30:19

he's working these themes into his films.

0:30:190:30:22

This woman's going to destroy everything I've built.

0:30:220:30:25

That's what I'm saying, Judah. If the woman won't listen to reason,

0:30:250:30:29

then you go on to the next step.

0:30:290:30:31

What, threats, violence? What are we talking about, here?

0:30:310:30:35

She can be gotten rid of. I mean, I know a lot of people. Money'll buy whatever's necessary.

0:30:350:30:39

I'm not even going to comment on that. That's mind-boggling.

0:30:390:30:41

Judah Rosenthal, the character I played

0:30:410:30:43

in Crimes And Misdemeanours, is a pillar of the community,

0:30:430:30:46

he's got a family, he's respected,

0:30:460:30:48

but he has an affair

0:30:480:30:50

with this stewardess

0:30:500:30:52

played by Anjelica Huston

0:30:520:30:55

and she becomes a loose cannon in his life.

0:30:550:30:58

You told me, over and over again, you'd leave Miriam! We made plans!

0:30:580:31:02

-I didn't!

-You did! I gave up things for you, business opportunities!

-Oh, pipe dreams!

0:31:020:31:05

He doesn't know how to handle it

0:31:050:31:08

and he calls his brother,

0:31:080:31:09

who's a little on the shady side, and he resolves it

0:31:090:31:13

in a way that is horrendous, really.

0:31:130:31:16

When I see her,

0:31:200:31:22

I'm overwhelmed by it.

0:31:220:31:24

He has a great deal of difficulty living with it

0:31:240:31:27

and flashes back on a Seder,

0:31:270:31:30

Passover dinner that he remembered,

0:31:300:31:33

where a lot of religion and philosophy is discussed.

0:31:330:31:37

What are you saying, May, there's no morality, anywhere in the whole world?

0:31:370:31:41

Listen, for those who want morality, there's morality.

0:31:410:31:44

Nothing's handed down in stone.

0:31:440:31:46

Sol's kind of faith is a gift.

0:31:460:31:49

It's like an ear for music or the talent to draw.

0:31:490:31:51

He believes, and you can use logic on him all day long and he still believes.

0:31:510:31:55

Must everything be logical?

0:31:550:31:58

And if a man commits a crime, if he...

0:31:580:32:01

if he kills?

0:32:010:32:03

Then, one way or another, he will be punished.

0:32:030:32:06

If he's caught, Sol.

0:32:060:32:08

No, no, no! Whether it's the Old Testament or Shakespeare, murder will out.

0:32:080:32:12

Who said anything about murder?

0:32:120:32:15

You did.

0:32:150:32:16

Did I?

0:32:180:32:20

Woody walks a real tightrope in Crimes And Misdemeanours,

0:32:200:32:22

because he's telling, essentially, a very serious story,

0:32:220:32:25

yet he knows to counterbalance it with a lighter story,

0:32:250:32:29

involving him and Mia Farrow and Alan Alda.

0:32:290:32:32

And it's that very deft combination that makes the movie work.

0:32:320:32:35

It's amazing - I couldn't graduate,

0:32:350:32:37

and the same school now teaches a course

0:32:370:32:40

-in existential motifs in my situation comedies.

-Really?

0:32:400:32:43

I could've done the whole picture just as the murder story

0:32:450:32:49

and very often regretted that I didn't,

0:32:490:32:52

because I found Marty Landau's story so compelling

0:32:520:32:56

and so interesting and mine so uninteresting.

0:32:560:32:59

And then it occurred to me that, if my character made the film about Alan Alda,

0:32:590:33:07

it tied the whole thing up because it was a funny idea,

0:33:070:33:09

that I was forced to make this aggrandizing documentary

0:33:090:33:14

about this guy that I couldn't stand.

0:33:140:33:17

The thing to remember about comedy is

0:33:170:33:19

if it bends, it's funny if it breaks, it's not funny.

0:33:190:33:24

So you got to get back from the pain, you see what I mean?

0:33:240:33:28

Issues of what life is about and why we're here and why it's so painful

0:33:280:33:32

and relationships between the human being

0:33:320:33:34

and his existence and human loneliness,

0:33:340:33:37

that never gets resolved

0:33:370:33:39

and so it's of constant interest to me.

0:33:390:33:43

-Hi, cliff.

-Cliff! Hello.

0:33:430:33:45

And I can see, if I look back on my work,

0:33:450:33:47

I see some of those themes creep in all the time.

0:33:470:33:50

I wanted to give you this letter back.

0:33:500:33:53

It's my one love letter.

0:33:530:33:56

I'm cursed with the clown's approach to it

0:33:560:34:00

and I always have to approach it in a comic way.

0:34:000:34:04

I plagiarised most of it from James Joyce.

0:34:040:34:07

You probably wondered why all the references to Dublin.

0:34:070:34:12

I wish I had been born

0:34:120:34:14

a gifted and great tragedian, but I wasn't.

0:34:140:34:19

What are your views on divine matters?

0:34:190:34:23

Excuse me, me?

0:34:230:34:25

I'm asking you if you believe in god.

0:34:250:34:28

It's incredible, that's the third time tonight somebody asked me that exact same question.

0:34:280:34:33

You know, I would love to, believe me, I know I would be much happier.

0:34:330:34:36

-Yeah, but you can't.

-I can't, no, it's just, you know...

0:34:360:34:39

You doubt his existence and you can't make the leap of faith necessary.

0:34:390:34:42

Listen, I can't make the leap of faith necessary to believe in my own existence.

0:34:420:34:45

Here's your drink, Kleinman.

0:34:450:34:47

That's fine, that's tricky. You keep making jokes until the moment comes

0:34:470:34:50

and you've really got to face death.

0:34:500:34:52

Why are you always on such a morbid subject?

0:34:520:34:55

I just, you know, that's the future.

0:34:550:34:57

If I thought that there was nothing except this, I'd kill myself.

0:34:570:35:01

I've thought of it. Believe me, there have been many times

0:35:010:35:05

when my brain has said, "why not?"

0:35:050:35:07

I mean, there's no point to anything.

0:35:070:35:10

But, somehow, my blood always said, "live, live,"

0:35:100:35:17

and I always listen to my blood.

0:35:170:35:20

Woody Allen,

0:35:200:35:21

he's always swimming around the same philosophical issues.

0:35:210:35:25

There's still that thing you can do with his films

0:35:250:35:28

where they'll get you thinking and talking

0:35:280:35:30

or they'll spur something in you that,

0:35:300:35:32

you know, it's good medicine.

0:35:320:35:33

I think that Woody Allen asks these important questions,

0:35:330:35:36

is there a god? Isn't there a god?

0:35:360:35:37

Is there life beyond the grave?

0:35:370:35:39

Makes him unique among contemporary filmmakers,

0:35:390:35:41

but also makes him unique in the history of American cinema.

0:35:410:35:45

These are the two key questions, and he just keeps hammering away at them.

0:35:450:35:48

You know who has these thoughts all the time? Is Schultz the tailor.

0:35:480:35:51

He thinks that nothing is real at all

0:35:510:35:53

and that everything exists only in the dream of a dog.

0:35:530:35:56

But this is real, isn't it?

0:35:560:36:00

And beautiful.

0:36:000:36:02

So Woody and Mia had this kind of idyllic life -

0:36:020:36:04

certainly, in the public mind.

0:36:040:36:06

Here were two accomplished artists, they had this strange relationship

0:36:060:36:10

where he lived in his place, she lived in her place,

0:36:100:36:13

but she was in all his movies and he was there every day

0:36:130:36:15

and then they adopted a daughter and then they had a son

0:36:150:36:18

and it seemed kind of the perfect thing.

0:36:180:36:20

You know, they'd talk about how they could each go

0:36:200:36:22

out their windows or their balconies and wave at each other across the park

0:36:220:36:26

and this came to a crashing end

0:36:260:36:28

during the filming of Husbands And Wives.

0:36:280:36:31

Things fell apart at the very end of the shooting.

0:36:310:36:36

Really, there may have been two or three days left of shooting.

0:36:360:36:41

She must have called him and I remember him answering the phone

0:36:410:36:45

because we were, like, waiting for him to shoot the sequence

0:36:450:36:49

and I could tell something disturbing was happening

0:36:490:36:54

on the other end of this phone call.

0:36:540:36:56

Mia discovered that Woody was having this affair

0:36:560:36:59

with one of her adopted kids.

0:36:590:37:02

Mia had gone over to Woody's apartment for something and, on a mantelpiece in a room,

0:37:020:37:07

discovered some nude polaroids of her adopted daughter Soon-Yi.

0:37:070:37:11

It took me two or three days to convince Mia

0:37:110:37:16

to come back to work and finish the film

0:37:160:37:20

because her reaction was, "there's absolutely no way I could see this person anymore."

0:37:200:37:25

And, yet, they had to, in the midst

0:37:250:37:27

of this terrible emotional thing for both of them,

0:37:270:37:29

behave in a professional manner to finish the work.

0:37:290:37:33

So she, like a trooper, came and finished her job.

0:37:330:37:39

We were going to the faculty dinner,

0:37:390:37:41

and I'll never forget this,

0:37:410:37:43

around fifth avenue and it was just an icy black night, we were walking downtown.

0:37:430:37:47

Remember that? And then, suddenly, we decided not to go to the dinner, just said, the hell with it.

0:37:470:37:51

It was just such a beautiful night. We walked into Central Park.

0:37:510:37:54

It was, you know, so snowy that night.

0:37:540:37:56

-I remember how cold it was.

-We could see every star.

0:37:560:37:59

You were so beautiful in that black dress.

0:37:590:38:01

-Really. Mmm.

-Don't do that.

0:38:010:38:04

Why not?

0:38:040:38:08

Because it's over and we both know it.

0:38:080:38:11

When the great cosmic rift occurred,

0:38:110:38:13

you know, across the park

0:38:130:38:15

Woody was the antichrist

0:38:150:38:17

on the front page of the New York Post every day.

0:38:170:38:21

Their life blew up and this just became fodder

0:38:260:38:28

for the gossip magazines

0:38:280:38:30

and for television and for newspapers.

0:38:300:38:34

It was intensely covered.

0:38:340:38:36

The 12-year relationship of Woody Allen

0:38:360:38:38

and Mia Farrow has come to a bitter end.

0:38:380:38:40

Director Woody Allen has confirmed he is

0:38:400:38:42

in love with Mia Farrow's adopted daughter.

0:38:420:38:45

The acrimonious break-up caused by Allen's affair

0:38:450:38:47

with Farrow's adopted daughter Soon-Yi...

0:38:470:38:50

SPEAKING FRENCH

0:38:500:38:52

And when it became a custody battle between them,

0:38:520:38:54

it was almost lurid, in the way that it was handled.

0:38:540:38:58

There was nothing too small that wasn't scooped up.

0:38:580:39:01

Woody Allen and Mia Farrow have a date tomorrow - in court.

0:39:010:39:05

People everywhere in the country are talking about an ugly child custody battle.

0:39:050:39:08

The mud thickened today in the child custody battle

0:39:080:39:11

between Woody Allen and actress Mia Farrow.

0:39:110:39:13

That bitter battle between Woody Allen and Mia Farrow over visitation

0:39:130:39:17

and custody rights to their children heated up again today.

0:39:170:39:20

His break-up with long-time companion Mia Farrow

0:39:200:39:22

and their subsequent fight over child custody

0:39:220:39:24

has turned his private life into a public soap opera.

0:39:240:39:28

believe it or not, I didn't think I was that famous, to warrant such coverage.

0:39:280:39:34

I was on magazine covers.

0:39:340:39:36

I'm thinking, you got to be kidding.

0:39:360:39:38

I'm not that big a deal, to warrant this interest.

0:39:380:39:42

But, apparently, it was a good, juicy story,

0:39:420:39:46

a very juicy story and, you know,

0:39:460:39:49

it took a little edge off my natural blandness.

0:39:490:39:54

You realise how these celebrity cases come to play,

0:39:540:39:56

that nothing can be more important in the country

0:39:560:39:58

at that moment than whatever celebrity case is playing,

0:39:580:40:01

and it will last until the next one comes along.

0:40:010:40:05

A judge has refused Woody Allen's request for custody of his three children -

0:40:050:40:09

one biological, two adopted.

0:40:090:40:12

The custody issue was... was terrible.

0:40:120:40:16

That was... you know, he never cares what they write about him in the newspaper.

0:40:160:40:21

Even though I care and people who care about him care,

0:40:210:40:23

he doesn't care and he doesn't read it so it doesn't,

0:40:230:40:26

you know, impact him in the same way.

0:40:260:40:28

Not being able to see his kids

0:40:280:40:30

was terrible for him.

0:40:300:40:32

All through this upset with Mia

0:40:320:40:35

and the scandal surrounding it,

0:40:350:40:38

he was never late for a meeting.

0:40:380:40:42

We would have a casting session

0:40:420:40:44

before he'd go to court, half the time.

0:40:440:40:46

He never missed a beat.

0:40:460:40:48

It was almost as if

0:40:480:40:50

Woody has dreaded so many bad things happening to him in life

0:40:500:40:54

that, when something really bad did happen to him,

0:40:540:40:58

he was totally prepared.

0:40:580:41:01

Everybody had an opinion about my private life,

0:41:010:41:03

which I felt they were all free to have

0:41:030:41:07

and free to respond in any way that made them happy.

0:41:070:41:13

They could sympathise with me, not sympathise with me,

0:41:130:41:19

they could dislike me, they could like me,

0:41:190:41:23

they could, you know...

0:41:230:41:24

It could have no effect on whether they saw my films,

0:41:240:41:27

they could never see my films again.

0:41:270:41:30

None of that mattered to me.

0:41:300:41:32

I really, at the time, thought,

0:41:320:41:34

"Oh, my God, is this really the ruination of Woody?"

0:41:340:41:37

But, you know,

0:41:370:41:40

he was able to continue his work and his career,

0:41:400:41:44

which, to me, is the main thing.

0:41:440:41:46

How much I envy his ability to compartmentalise.

0:41:460:41:48

He was able to continue to work all the time...

0:41:480:41:51

Woody has the ability to compartmentalise his life.

0:41:510:41:53

So he was able to sort of compartmentalise...

0:41:530:41:57

Woody's ability to compartmentalise...

0:41:570:41:58

He can compartmentalise his life.

0:41:580:42:00

I'm very good at compartmentalizing,

0:42:000:42:03

for better or worse.

0:42:030:42:06

When we were writing Bullets Over Broadway,

0:42:060:42:09

the custody trial was about to happen

0:42:090:42:11

and so there were, of necessity,

0:42:110:42:14

a lot of interruptions in our work.

0:42:140:42:18

We'd be talking through the scenes, as we would do with each other,

0:42:180:42:21

and then the phone would ring and he'd say,

0:42:210:42:23

"Oh, excuse me, I got to take this," and then he'd go over

0:42:230:42:26

and you would hear a very hushed "hello," you'd hear, you know,

0:42:260:42:31

"detective" and maybe "get a sample."

0:42:310:42:34

You know, you'd hear kind of hair-raising phrases

0:42:340:42:36

and then he'd hang up and he'd come back and he'd go,

0:42:360:42:39

"OK, let's go back to work."

0:42:390:42:40

I just remember this one day, we had been interrupted three times and, after the third time,

0:42:400:42:44

when there'd been some other grisly exchange on the phone,

0:42:440:42:47

he came back and he looked at me and he goes,

0:42:470:42:49

"OK, back to work on our little comic bauble."

0:42:490:42:54

We got the money! We can do the play!

0:42:540:42:57

What?! When?! How?!

0:42:570:42:59

A single backer going for the whole show.

0:42:590:43:02

-And no hitches?

-Well, uh...

0:43:020:43:05

We'll meet tomorrow and discuss it, all right?

0:43:050:43:08

I just thought it was a funny idea,

0:43:080:43:09

that a guy wants to put on a show

0:43:090:43:12

and a gangster, you know, bankrolls it

0:43:120:43:14

and makes his girlfriend the star of it, or one of the stars of it.

0:43:140:43:16

-Hey, Dave, she read your play.

-Yes, yes. It's thrilling, turbulent, a page-turner.

0:43:160:43:23

Charmed, charmed, charmed, charmed.

0:43:230:43:25

She's a great little actress, you know. She just needs as break.

0:43:250:43:28

So what have you been in, Miss, uh...?

0:43:280:43:30

Olive, olive, olive. Call me olive, honey.

0:43:300:43:32

Olive. You're... Well, you're experienced?

0:43:320:43:35

Well, I had a little experience.

0:43:350:43:37

Oh, she ain't got no experience.

0:43:370:43:38

-I do, too. I have, too!

-She's a natural.

0:43:380:43:41

They ain't talking dancing, olive.

0:43:410:43:43

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

0:43:430:43:45

You don't mean dancing, do you? She used to wiggle at this joint in Hoboken, you know,

0:43:450:43:48

-pick up quarters off the tabletops with her...

-Hey! Hey! Hey!

0:43:480:43:51

I'm just trying to break the ice, all right?

0:43:510:43:53

Butt out, why don't you! They're talking to me!

0:43:530:43:55

-Who wants a drink?

-I'll have a double anything.

0:43:550:43:57

Bullets over Broadway is just...

0:43:570:43:59

I just think it's a wonderful movie.

0:43:590:44:01

I mean, you know what they say,

0:44:010:44:04

write about what you know - well...

0:44:040:44:06

It must be difficult, getting a work like this on.

0:44:060:44:09

It's a sad reality of the marketplace, I'll tell you.

0:44:090:44:12

We've never really had a chance to talk.

0:44:120:44:14

-No.

-Hi, folks. What can I get you?

0:44:140:44:15

-Two martinis, please, very dry.

-How'd you know what I drank?

0:44:150:44:18

Oh, you want one, too? Three.

0:44:180:44:22

We spoke a lot by phone when he was making Bullets...

0:44:220:44:24

And so I'd say, "how's the movie going?"

0:44:240:44:26

And he'd say, "Everything's going great,"

0:44:260:44:28

but, at first, Diane Wiest, whom I had felt, right from the beginning,

0:44:280:44:31

was wrong for that part - and had no trouble telling him.

0:44:310:44:34

I kept saying, "Dianne Wiest for that vain, hammy actress?"

0:44:340:44:38

Because you know,

0:44:380:44:39

she's so sweet and vulnerable and, you know,

0:44:390:44:42

it seemed so not like Dianne Wiest.

0:44:420:44:44

And he kept saying, "No, she has to do it. She can do anything."

0:44:440:44:48

So I thought, "OK, go ahead, sink your own picture, what do I know?"

0:44:480:44:51

What happened was this - we shot for two days.

0:44:510:44:56

He said, "Tonight, come and see the dailies with me."

0:44:560:45:00

I sat there and I saw this

0:45:000:45:05

painful, painful attempt

0:45:050:45:09

for me to do this role. Pathetic, pathetic.

0:45:090:45:13

He said, "Do you see?" And I said, "Yeah, I do."

0:45:130:45:16

He said, "Well, you know, what are you going to do?"

0:45:160:45:20

And I said, "You've got to pick up the phone

0:45:200:45:22

"and you've got to find somebody who can do this.

0:45:220:45:24

"It's not me. You've got to replace me."

0:45:240:45:26

He said, "No, no, no, no. There's something we can do. There's something."

0:45:260:45:30

When I was talking to her, she was convinced she was going to get fired.

0:45:300:45:33

And with the first couple things we re-shot,

0:45:330:45:36

she didn't have that deep baritone voice

0:45:360:45:39

and I think she was sort of finding that.

0:45:390:45:42

Or they were finding it together.

0:45:420:45:44

Without my own voice, I was free to do

0:45:440:45:51

this mad, crazy, you know, psychotic woman.

0:45:510:45:55

Helen, have you thought about what I said before,

0:45:550:45:58

-about the way I feel?

-Don't speak.

0:45:580:46:00

But I want to express...

0:46:000:46:02

Don't speak, don't.

0:46:020:46:05

-There's just a few things that I want to tell you...

-Don't speak, no, no.

0:46:050:46:09

When we first met, I was thinking...

0:46:090:46:10

Don't speak. Please, don't speak, please.

0:46:100:46:13

Don't speak! No! No, no, no!

0:46:130:46:16

Go, go, gentle scorpio, go!

0:46:160:46:21

Your pisces wishes you every happy return.

0:46:210:46:25

-Just one...

-Don't speak!

0:46:250:46:28

She couldn't believe that I wanted her

0:46:280:46:31

to play it so broadly,

0:46:310:46:34

and I did, I wanted her to play it like Norma desmond,

0:46:340:46:37

just as broad as could be.

0:46:370:46:39

She went straight from there to her,

0:46:390:46:42

I think, second academy award.

0:46:420:46:46

And so it's odd - he's a director whose actors get

0:46:460:46:50

tremendous numbers of awards or nominations for awards,

0:46:500:46:52

but if you watch him on the set,

0:46:520:46:55

he's the least directive director you can imagine.

0:46:550:46:59

I love his directing style because, honestly,

0:46:590:47:02

a director who has confidence in his actors

0:47:020:47:06

and who doesn't try and muscle them around the set,

0:47:060:47:10

allows them to blossom and makes them take

0:47:100:47:12

the responsibility for their performance.

0:47:120:47:15

See, the thing is, if you're with somebody who says,

0:47:150:47:17

"It's all you now, go," it really then

0:47:170:47:19

puts the ball in your court, you got to come with the goods.

0:47:190:47:21

So let me ask you a question - are you ever frightened that,

0:47:210:47:24

when a guy comes over your house and pays you,

0:47:240:47:27

that he's going to, you know, maybe like tie you up and kill you?

0:47:270:47:30

Oh, no, I always get paid in advance.

0:47:300:47:32

FANFARE PLAYS

0:47:320:47:34

Come on.

0:47:340:47:36

He said that he didn't really like to rehearse,

0:47:360:47:40

unless I wanted to, and I was like, "No, that's OK,

0:47:400:47:42

"because I actually didn't really love rehearsing either."

0:47:420:47:44

He said, "You don't have to say

0:47:440:47:47

"any of the words I've written, if you don't want to,"

0:47:470:47:50

and I was shocked because I was like,

0:47:500:47:52

this is the best, genius, comedy writer we have.

0:47:520:47:55

His script is so fantastic, why wouldn't I say the words?

0:47:550:47:58

And he said, "No, the script is just a blueprint.

0:47:580:48:02

"It's whatever makes you as real, natural, and funny as possible.

0:48:020:48:05

"So if you want to say something else, go ahead and say it."

0:48:050:48:09

And you never thought of just getting a regular job?

0:48:090:48:11

Well, yeah, sure I did. No, I did things.

0:48:110:48:13

I waited on tables, I worked in a massage parlour, I did phone sex.

0:48:130:48:16

Now and then, I would, you know, turn a few tricks

0:48:160:48:19

in order to make some dough.

0:48:190:48:20

And one day, my friend Suzie calls me

0:48:200:48:23

and she asks me if I want to be in a film,

0:48:230:48:24

something called Snatch Happy,

0:48:240:48:26

and I said sure, and I remember

0:48:260:48:28

I was very nervous because I'd never done it

0:48:280:48:30

in front of people with a camera before,

0:48:300:48:33

you know? And so, there I am on the first day,

0:48:330:48:35

on the set, and there's this guy

0:48:350:48:38

fucking me from behind, right?

0:48:380:48:39

And there's these two huge guys dressed like cops

0:48:390:48:42

in my mouth at the same time and I remember thinking to myself,

0:48:420:48:46

"I like acting. I want to study."

0:48:460:48:49

I never expected to win the Oscar, never.

0:48:490:48:52

And I was, like, preparing to be happy

0:48:520:48:55

for whomever's name they called,

0:48:550:48:57

and then they called mine.

0:48:570:48:58

I think the secret is

0:48:580:49:01

that everybody wants to work for him so badly

0:49:010:49:04

that they know they have to do their best

0:49:040:49:07

and I think they bring their very best

0:49:070:49:10

to the set every day on a Woody Allen film.

0:49:100:49:13

They don't want to disappoint.

0:49:130:49:17

We gave Sean guitar lessons.

0:49:170:49:19

Six months before the movie,

0:49:190:49:21

we sent a guitar... we paid for a guitar teacher

0:49:210:49:23

to go over to Europe and stay with him.

0:49:230:49:25

So, I didn't have to, you know, do one of those shots

0:49:250:49:27

where you always had to cut away to someone else's hand.

0:49:270:49:30

That was Sean.

0:49:300:49:32

He didn't ask to see or know anything

0:49:360:49:39

until he rolled the camera.

0:49:390:49:41

His feeling is that the best, complete thing he's going to get

0:49:410:49:44

is going to come out of the actor's instinct

0:49:440:49:47

and that what he finds out on day one is

0:49:470:49:50

whether or not he cast it well.

0:49:500:49:51

Really, I'm not one of these guys who gets his head turned

0:49:510:49:55

every time some dame walks by.

0:49:550:49:56

I've had plenty of beautiful women

0:49:560:49:58

and I always put 'em in their place.

0:49:580:50:01

Yeah, love 'em and leave 'em,

0:50:010:50:03

that's my motto.

0:50:030:50:04

Love 'em and don't look back.

0:50:040:50:08

I never once regretted... Not one time

0:50:080:50:10

did I ever regret dumping a beautiful dame.

0:50:100:50:13

Because you got to keep your guard up. You don't, them pretty ones

0:50:130:50:16

get their worms in you and then it's over, you're done.

0:50:160:50:21

Particularly if you're an artist.

0:50:210:50:23

Nah, I've seen too many guys crying in their beer.

0:50:230:50:26

Me? I'm going to be a star.

0:50:260:50:30

After the cut was called,

0:50:300:50:32

I looked at him to say,

0:50:320:50:34

you know, "should I choose window or aisle on my way home

0:50:340:50:39

"or am I sticking around?"

0:50:390:50:42

And he was already looking at somebody else,

0:50:420:50:44

getting, you know, ready to just, you know, do another take,

0:50:440:50:48

or do something, and there was never a comment at all.

0:50:480:50:51

To this day, I've never heard him make

0:50:510:50:54

a specific comment about the character that I played.

0:50:540:51:00

But when it comes to directing an actor,

0:51:000:51:03

it's a bare-bones clarity that any personality

0:51:030:51:07

can understand and interpret.

0:51:070:51:10

I can't write all night and then drive in the daytime!

0:51:100:51:14

You know, I fell asleep at the wheel.

0:51:140:51:16

Oh, god. Well, are you OK? Did anyone get hurt?

0:51:160:51:19

Look, I need time to work on my book.

0:51:190:51:22

When are you going to finish that book?

0:51:220:51:24

Like that?

0:51:240:51:26

Y-Yes, physically like that,

0:51:260:51:28

but what's missing from it is...

0:51:280:51:32

the argumentation.

0:51:320:51:35

I think I've come to realise that he is

0:51:350:51:37

the best actor's director I've ever worked with,

0:51:370:51:39

and I've worked with some really good ones,

0:51:390:51:42

so I say that after a lot of thought.

0:51:420:51:45

And so, while he's giving us a lot of free rein,

0:51:450:51:48

he's still going for something very specific,

0:51:480:51:52

the way he's offering these suggestions all the time,

0:51:520:51:54

but then sort of backtracking and saying,

0:51:540:51:56

"but we don't have to, and, you know, if you don't feel comfortable with it,

0:51:560:52:00

"then forget I ever said it," so it can just be real life.

0:52:000:52:04

I mean, how many times can you write

0:52:040:52:06

and tear up and rewrite these chapters?!

0:52:060:52:09

It's like you're scared to finish.

0:52:090:52:11

OK, you know what? You're right. I'm gun-shy, I can't handle it,

0:52:110:52:15

if it's confirmed, yet again, that all those nice things predicted about me were wrong.

0:52:150:52:19

-That I was, what, a flash in the pan?

-Well, stalling is not the answer.

0:52:190:52:22

All my friends have family! Can I do that?

0:52:220:52:26

-Yeah, sure, yeah.

-Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you.

-Warn me.

0:52:260:52:31

And you shut the door because we're going to cut in here.

0:52:310:52:35

I'm anything but comfortable on this set, for sure.

0:52:350:52:37

I've spent a week and a half here getting ready to start

0:52:370:52:39

and it's been the most torturous week and a half of my life

0:52:390:52:43

because he's one of these guys that you want to please,

0:52:430:52:46

you know, you really want to please him.

0:52:460:52:48

It's like going back to, you know, acting school,

0:52:480:52:51

you know? I feel like I know nothing

0:52:510:52:53

and I just want to please this guy's vision.

0:52:530:52:57

And she's sipping her drink, chatting.

0:52:570:53:01

Right here. And I'm...?

0:53:010:53:03

You're in here with her. Why? You ask.

0:53:030:53:06

Uh-Huh.

0:53:060:53:08

No, I didn't ask why, I just asked where. I mean, why? Is always the question,

0:53:080:53:12

why we do have to be alone together?

0:53:120:53:15

That I can never find the answer to. What could you do in here?

0:53:150:53:19

Just be uncomfortable.

0:53:190:53:22

OK.

0:53:220:53:23

I mean, what could I do as an action, what could I do as a...?

0:53:230:53:27

I mean, you can come in... I mean, you can come in for your cigarettes,

0:53:270:53:32

you know, get them while you're here.

0:53:320:53:34

You can come in and sit down in anticipation of your salad.

0:53:340:53:38

You know, if they say to me, "would you like me to do it this way?" Or "was I too mean in that?"

0:53:380:53:44

You know, I can't just stare back at them and not answer,

0:53:440:53:48

so I have to say yes or no.

0:53:480:53:50

You do get actors that want a little feedback and they do ask questions

0:53:500:53:56

and I give them a short answer,

0:53:560:53:58

a short, flattering answer - "Oh, you were great, do exactly what you're doing,"

0:53:580:54:03

or something, and they're fine.

0:54:030:54:05

Do it that way and let's see. This was quite good.

0:54:050:54:09

Now, if you're telling me you can be

0:54:090:54:12

even more natural, fine, that never hurts anything,

0:54:120:54:15

but this was not...

0:54:150:54:17

If you saw this, you wouldn't think,

0:54:170:54:18

"Oh, it's not authentic or it's artificial."

0:54:180:54:22

Right. Well, that's what I don't want, by any means.

0:54:220:54:25

It looks perfectly natural.

0:54:250:54:26

I ask him a lot of questions. He says, "Don't worry about it. Get a good night's sleep.

0:54:260:54:30

"I'll see you tomorrow. Learn your lines

0:54:300:54:32

"and I'll point you in the right direction and you'll be fine."

0:54:320:54:35

He doesn't really go into motivation or, like, acting stuff, like,

0:54:350:54:40

you know, what's the back history, what's the story?

0:54:400:54:43

He doesn't really go into any of that.

0:54:430:54:46

I think... I'm not sure.

0:54:460:54:48

I think he once said, "I gave a standard direction - do it faster."

0:54:480:54:53

We didn't meet until three days before filming,

0:54:530:54:55

when I showed up in Paris,

0:54:550:54:57

and we shook hands and he asked me how my flight was

0:54:570:55:01

and it was a good flight and uneventful,

0:55:010:55:05

and he said, "Great. This will be the last you hear from me."

0:55:050:55:09

The words I think you hear most often on set are

0:55:090:55:14

"Make it up. Make yourself comfortable.

0:55:140:55:15

"Put it in your own words. If you get an idea, go with it."

0:55:150:55:19

Even if I have to say something like, "Woody, nobody says 'valise', you know, I can't say 'valise'."

0:55:190:55:23

And he'll say, "Well, what would you say?" "I have a suitcase."

0:55:230:55:26

He'll say, "fine, say suitcase. It doesn't matter. Say whatever you think,

0:55:260:55:30

"as long as it has the same intention as the line."

0:55:300:55:32

Some of the directions would be like, you know,

0:55:320:55:35

"what you're doing is very good but, you know,

0:55:350:55:38

"there's a Knicks game at... Speed it up."

0:55:380:55:41

"You've got to move this along because I've got to leave. The knicks are playing. Sure."

0:55:410:55:46

I don't have a lot of patience, in life, or in general,

0:55:460:55:49

so, you know, I don't have the patience to do another take.

0:55:490:55:54

If I've gotten what I want,

0:55:540:55:57

then I want to move on, finish, and go home.

0:55:570:56:00

I don't have the concentration or the dedication

0:56:000:56:03

that you really need to be a great artist.

0:56:030:56:09

I'd rather be home, watching the ballgame.

0:56:090:56:12

He is a very efficient worker and runs his set in a way

0:56:120:56:16

where everyone's working hard, but nobody's taxed

0:56:160:56:20

or no one's like, "Oh, my gosh, I can't believe we're on another 18-hour day."

0:56:200:56:24

You only do a handful of takes. He gets most of his footage in master shots,

0:56:240:56:28

so he'll shoot a four- or five-page scene all in one shot.

0:56:280:56:31

I'd be conscious of "OK, one page to go."

0:56:310:56:34

"You got a line coming up, you got a line coming up."

0:56:340:56:37

Because you didn't want to screw up because then you

0:56:370:56:39

have to go back to the beginning and do it all over again.

0:56:390:56:41

You didn't want to mess up the take. It's daunting.

0:56:410:56:44

Almost a hundred years after the abolition of slavery,

0:56:440:56:47

a man couldn't play a game of baseball

0:56:470:56:50

in the big leagues if his skin colour was black, OK?

0:56:500:56:53

You're harping on one point.

0:56:530:56:54

OK, forget blacks! Take Jews.

0:56:540:56:58

-What?

-Here we go.

0:56:580:57:00

For years, they restricted the number of Jews in schools, medical school.

0:57:000:57:03

In America, as much as they hated blacks, they hate Jews even more.

0:57:030:57:07

-Why?

-Blacks, they were scared had too big a penis.

0:57:070:57:09

-Jews, they hated, even with little penises.

-For god's sake, I'm eating!

0:57:090:57:12

After I did my first scene, he came up to me and said,

0:57:120:57:16

"That wasn't horrible."

0:57:160:57:18

HE LAUGHS

0:57:180:57:20

But this notion that I hear that he doesn't direct,

0:57:200:57:23

I mean, that's kind of ridiculous.

0:57:230:57:26

He gets what he wants.

0:57:260:57:28

The thing about Woody, as a director,

0:57:280:57:31

was just go, be there and do whatever you want

0:57:310:57:35

and mess up the lines and turn your back to the camera

0:57:350:57:38

and let's grab it here and lets go.

0:57:380:57:41

You got to go back to your shrink. I want you to see dr Ballard again.

0:57:410:57:44

Larry, I went for two years!

0:57:440:57:45

Yeah, I know, but you know how General Motors will recall defective cars?

0:57:450:57:49

-You got to go in for a tune-up.

-Larry, we'll be in and out in five minutes, honey.

0:57:490:57:52

No, no, I'm telling you! I'm your husband. I command you to sleep!

0:57:520:57:56

-Well, I... sleep!

-No!

-I command it! I command it!

0:57:560:57:58

It was so easy.

0:57:580:58:00

It was so simple and relaxed and fun

0:58:000:58:05

and no pressure and nobody expected anything

0:58:050:58:07

and I've never worked with anybody like that, ever.

0:58:070:58:10

This musical we did, Everyone Says I Love You,

0:58:100:58:12

we had a very involved sequence with Goldie Hawn

0:58:120:58:14

which involved dancing with wires in Paris.

0:58:140:58:18

As far as Woody was concerned,

0:58:180:58:20

"Oh, we'll just show up and do it on the day."

0:58:200:58:22

I said, "Well, you know, there's, like,

0:58:220:58:23

"all these flying rigs and, you know, dance choreography

0:58:230:58:27

"and, I mean, this all has to be worked out.

0:58:270:58:30

"We just can't show up on the day with, you know,

0:58:300:58:32

"with a hundred guys on the quay."

0:58:320:58:35

I used to have to, like, drag him, kicking and screaming,

0:58:350:58:39

for, like, one or two rehearsals for something like that.

0:58:390:58:43

# Just you

0:58:430:58:47

# Just me

0:58:470:58:50

# Let's find a cosy spot

0:58:500:58:53

# Where no one can see... #

0:58:530:58:56

I wanted to do the old-fashioned kind of musical,

0:58:560:59:00

where I used old-fashioned songs.

0:59:000:59:03

I didn't want to do anything more innovative or modern,

0:59:030:59:08

I just, you know, wanted to get people who, you know,

0:59:080:59:12

like to sing in the shower or couldn't sing.

0:59:120:59:16

None of that mattered to me.

0:59:160:59:18

# What are my arms for?

0:59:180:59:21

# Use your imagination

0:59:210:59:26

-# Just us

-Just the two of us... #

0:59:260:59:30

That film has got its fans,

0:59:300:59:34

but it was not a huge success.

0:59:340:59:38

I did it, like all my films, for the few people who like it.

0:59:380:59:42

It's interesting. Because of the auteur theory,

0:59:450:59:48

there were a lot of filmmakers who felt,

0:59:480:59:51

no, I have to make a great film.

0:59:510:59:53

People felt obliged to top themselves.

0:59:530:59:55

Woody Allen has never felt obliged to top himself.

0:59:550:59:58

He's felt obliged to do whatever interests him most,

0:59:581:00:01

to go there with a full commitment,

1:00:011:00:04

but when he's done, he moves on,

1:00:041:00:06

and he just - he moves right into the next thing.

1:00:061:00:09

Deconstructing Harry was based on the premise

1:00:091:00:12

that you learned about the character and his life

1:00:121:00:15

from what he wrote.

1:00:151:00:18

So Harry was a writer who's having a writer's block

1:00:181:00:22

and was going through bad child custody stuff with his ex-wife.

1:00:221:00:28

Sick, sick, sick fucking bastard.

1:00:281:00:31

And I thought that would be interesting,

1:00:311:00:33

that what he wrote was telling

1:00:331:00:35

and maybe even sometimes more telling about him

1:00:351:00:38

than how he carried on in his actual life.

1:00:381:00:41

I like it.

1:00:411:00:43

A character who's too neurotic to function in life,

1:00:431:00:48

that can only function in art.

1:00:481:00:53

Now Harry's nothing like me.

1:00:531:00:55

I've never had a writer's block in my life.

1:00:551:00:57

You know, I would never have the nerve

1:00:571:00:59

to kidnap a child in a custody thing.

1:00:591:01:01

I... That's not my life.

1:01:011:01:03

What's the man like?

1:01:031:01:06

It's me, thinly disguised.

1:01:061:01:07

In fact, I...I don't even think

1:01:071:01:09

-I should disguise it anymore. It's... You know, it's me.

-Uh-Huh.

1:01:091:01:15

In the late '90s and then into the turn of the next century,

1:01:151:01:18

some people were starting to write him off,

1:01:181:01:21

saying that he was played out.

1:01:211:01:23

There's a period that comes after Deconstructing Harry

1:01:231:01:26

where I just had to think of it as Woody adrift,

1:01:261:01:29

because he was making a film a year.

1:01:291:01:30

They were coming out steadily,

1:01:301:01:32

but there was something that was off in film after film.

1:01:321:01:36

You know, and there would always be something that was on

1:01:361:01:39

in film after film at the same time.

1:01:391:01:41

But you'd see and you'd go into each new Woody Allen film and hope, cos you never do know.

1:01:411:01:45

I suggested once to him,

1:01:451:01:48

"What if you were only making one film every two years?

1:01:481:01:52

"Wouldn't that be more of an event?

1:01:521:01:55

"Wouldn't people just feel like there was something special about it?"

1:01:551:01:59

And he said, "No, that makes no sense at all."

1:01:591:02:03

He just has to be out there making films.

1:02:031:02:06

He's always been a person who's done what he wanted,

1:02:061:02:09

whether it was moving from Bananas to Annie Hall

1:02:091:02:12

or moving from Annie Hall to Interiors.

1:02:121:02:15

There's always been...

1:02:151:02:17

His career has been guided purely by his sense

1:02:171:02:20

of what's the right thing for him to do,

1:02:201:02:22

not "what does the audience want me to do?"

1:02:221:02:24

And he's not afraid to fail. That's the thing, too.

1:02:241:02:28

Like, failure does noth... He kind of...

1:02:281:02:30

You can tell he kind of approaches it like a baseball player.

1:02:301:02:34

Like, "OK, I'll get em the next time."

1:02:341:02:37

I'm willing to fail without any problem whatsoever.

1:02:371:02:41

I just... I draw the line

1:02:411:02:44

at an obvious, flagrant committing suicide.

1:02:441:02:47

I don't really care about commercial success,

1:02:471:02:53

and the end result is I rarely achieve it.

1:02:531:02:56

See, that's one of the great things about Woody.

1:02:561:02:59

He really doesn't give a hoot what anybody says about him,

1:02:591:03:02

you know, which I think

1:03:021:03:05

is the hallmark of an artistic sensibility,

1:03:051:03:10

as opposed to kind of a more normal movie-making sensibility.

1:03:101:03:14

You know, how can you get too caught up

1:03:141:03:17

in reviews or how the movie's doing

1:03:171:03:19

if you're already on to your next movie?

1:03:191:03:22

Which is probably a good way to be,

1:03:221:03:24

cos it kind of protects you a little bit from, you know,

1:03:241:03:27

"How's this doing? Or "what are the numbers on this?"

1:03:271:03:31

It's an artist who continually paints

1:03:311:03:36

and has to be heard from and has to...

1:03:361:03:38

Maybe... I don't know why you do this,

1:03:381:03:40

but do you do it so that you know you're alive

1:03:401:03:43

and you want to let people know you're alive and you're still thinking

1:03:431:03:46

and you're still in there punching?

1:03:461:03:48

You know, I think probably that's what it is.

1:03:481:03:50

How many great films has he made?

1:03:501:03:52

A lot. You know, so he's made a few clunkers, but even the clunkers,

1:03:521:03:56

there's always something about them.

1:03:561:03:59

Always. That's art.

1:03:591:04:01

I've been working on the quantity theory.

1:04:011:04:04

I feel if I keep making films and just keep making them,

1:04:041:04:07

every once in a while, I'll get lucky

1:04:071:04:10

and one will come out, and that's exactly what happens.

1:04:101:04:13

I just will never forget, you know,

1:04:131:04:16

after Curse Of The Jade Scorpion,

1:04:161:04:18

after anything else, after all those films that seemed to wander...

1:04:181:04:22

In a theatre, seeing a movie. OK, here's a coming attraction

1:04:221:04:26

for a film that's set in Britain.

1:04:261:04:28

It's a thriller,

1:04:281:04:29

and it looks really intense, and it's got a good cast.

1:04:291:04:32

People are nudging, "Hey, let's see this."

1:04:321:04:34

You're threatening me? If I don't do what you say, you'll go to my wife?

1:04:341:04:37

Hello?

1:04:371:04:39

Who keeps calling?

1:04:391:04:41

You lied to me. You're a liar!

1:04:411:04:43

You can learn to push the guilt under the rug and go on.

1:04:431:04:46

Otherwise, it overwhelms you.

1:04:461:04:49

And then, suddenly, boom -

1:04:501:04:52

written and directed by Woody Allen.

1:04:521:04:54

Match Point. Hello, what's this?

1:04:541:04:56

I grew up on Woody Allen movies,

1:04:561:04:59

so, for me, working with Woody was always -

1:04:591:05:02

that was like, you made it.

1:05:021:05:05

You have to lean in

1:05:051:05:07

and hit through the ball.

1:05:071:05:10

I was doing just fine until you showed up.

1:05:101:05:15

Ah, the story of my life.

1:05:151:05:17

So tell me,

1:05:171:05:19

what's a beautiful young American ping pong player

1:05:191:05:21

doing mingling amongst the British upper class?

1:05:211:05:24

Did anyone ever tell you you play a very aggressive game?

1:05:291:05:33

Did anyone ever tell you you have very sensual lips?

1:05:351:05:39

Extremely aggressive.

1:05:431:05:44

Match Point is sexy.

1:05:441:05:47

It's a sexy, sexy movie. You know what I mean?

1:05:471:05:52

I mean... I mean, it's more sexual

1:05:521:05:54

than anything from guys half his age.

1:05:541:05:58

This can't lead anyplace.

1:05:581:06:00

It's funny, because when we were shooting Match Point, we shot that scene in the wheat field,

1:06:031:06:07

and it's pouring rain, and I'm, of course, allergic to wheat.

1:06:071:06:11

Woody knows this and thinks it's hilarious, I'm sure.

1:06:111:06:15

I'm dying and sinus-y and mucous-y

1:06:151:06:18

and itchy and feeling not sexy at all.

1:06:181:06:21

Not to mention the fact that Jonathan Rhys Meyers

1:06:211:06:23

totally split my lip in the middle of the scene with his tooth.

1:06:231:06:28

Woody would say things like, "it looked... It looked...

1:06:281:06:30

"No, I saw the dailies the other day, and they were good.

1:06:301:06:33

"Very... I... I think it's... I think it's working. I think it's working."

1:06:331:06:37

You know, and you're just like,

1:06:371:06:38

"OK, Woody, well, if you think it's working, then it means

1:06:381:06:41

"we don't have to do any reshoots of that last scene."

1:06:411:06:44

It was one of the best summers of my life shooting that movie.

1:06:441:06:48

I had such an incredible time.

1:06:481:06:50

And part of that was really just forming a friendship with Woody.

1:06:501:06:53

We just were two peas in a pod.

1:06:531:06:57

I feel very lucky

1:06:571:07:00

to be sitting on this couch with...

1:07:001:07:03

with a proven genius.

1:07:031:07:04

You know, I wear the mantle of greatness with humility.

1:07:041:07:08

I mean, I think you have to.

1:07:081:07:09

It is lonely at the top. Whoever said that knew.

1:07:091:07:13

You know, maybe if she was...

1:07:131:07:14

if I was a little less intelligent,

1:07:141:07:16

or maybe she was slightly brighter or something...

1:07:161:07:19

Or if you had kind of more brownish hair.

1:07:191:07:22

Yeah, maybe if I had brownish hair or if I was...

1:07:221:07:25

You know, who knows what would have happened?

1:07:251:07:27

Scarlett, you know, is a crippler.

1:07:271:07:30

But like any artist, you have to say something.

1:07:301:07:33

It can't all be technique.

1:07:331:07:36

And with Scarlett

1:07:361:07:38

and Penelope, they're saying something.

1:07:381:07:41

I thought we could go for a ride to the countryside later.

1:07:411:07:44

I mean, you know, the weather is beautiful.

1:07:441:07:48

IN SPANISH:

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In English.

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Oh, no, it's fine.

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You speak no Spanish?

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No, I, uh, studied Chinese.

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Chinese?

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Why?

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When we were in Barcelona,

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and they took Penelope and Javier and whatever,

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they were so worried about getting fired.

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I kept on saying, "don't worry about it. You two are so great.

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"You don't have anything to worry about."

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That was their main concern, cos Woody has that reputation.

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IN SPANISH:

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He completely trusted Javier and I

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with the translation from the English to Spanish,

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because we did the translation ourselves,

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and we improvised so much.

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And he was always walking around the set.

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"I have no idea what these two are saying, but I trust them."

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I don't know what they said.

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I mean, they could have been talking about,

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you know, building an atomic bomb or something.

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I mean, I just know the movie seemed to go over with people,

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so they must have been doing something correct.

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Is it reasonable of me to ask you

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if you will both join me in my room?

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I'm engaged to be married.

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I have a handsome, lovely fiancee who I make love with

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and also holds a very real place in my heart,

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and to be perfectly frank, Juan Antonio,

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if I were the type of person that played around,

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I don't think it's in the cards for us.

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And you?

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I'll go to your room, but...

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You have to seduce me.

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He loves women, he appreciates women.

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He has written some of the best female characters of all time.

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And I love how well he knows neurotic women.

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I know I'm not going to settle

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till I find what I'm looking for.

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Which is what?

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Um...

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Something else.

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I want something different, something more,

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some sort of...

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Counterintuitive love.

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Meaning?

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Meaning...

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I don't know.

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I don't know what I want.

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I only know what I don't want.

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And if you don't start undressing me soon,

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this is going to turn into a panel discussion.

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He's cast that scene so perfectly

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that those two actors can bring off their own heat,

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but they also are very comfortable with the braininess

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of the things they're saying.

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It feels like a much younger filmmaker

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because it feels so immediate.

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But it's also somebody in his 70s knowing what love is,

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knowing what attraction is,

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and being able to represent it well.

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You age, but you don't...

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Until you're really put out of commission,

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you can still do that stuff, and you know what to say,

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and you know what they say in retaliation all the time.

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So, I haven't reached the age yet

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where all that's behind me.

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But there will come a day when I'll just be able to say,

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"What? What? Can you move your lips? What?"

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You know?

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And then I won't...

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I won't be able to do those scenes in my life,

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so I won't be able to write them so well.

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There are a lot of surprises that happen between writing it,

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doing it, and seeing it on the screen.

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Most surprises are negative.

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Most surprises are that you thought something

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was good or funny, and it's not.

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I've made just about 40 films in my life,

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and so few of them have really been worth anything

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because it's not easy.

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If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun,

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it wouldn't be valuable.

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He gave me this theory that stayed with me ever since,

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and I thought it was really great.

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He said, "Every movie has a sort of amount of time

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"that an audience will sit for that story."

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So he is ruthless about looking at everything and saying,

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"It's good, but not good enough. It's out."

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Let's run through it a little bit.

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I thought just the sparkler and the test tubes.

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You want to go back and make some more of those others then?

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Yeah, let's go back. Let's trim the cut before that.

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I would just use that and that's it.

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I wouldn't use anything after that.

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I'd move in to that and lose all the footage after that.

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When I first started editing, we edited with a movieola,

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which is really like an old Model T.

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And we spliced, and the film was spliced,

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and we looked at it,

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and all those films got made on movieolas

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and Steenbecks for decades.

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And they were fine, they were no problem.

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And it was more tedious, and it would take weeks.

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Now I can edit a picture in four or five days,

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from a technical point of view, without a problem

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because my editor is punching in keys,

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and it goes very, very fast.

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But, you know, there's a big difference

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between what you set out to make

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and what you make almost every time.

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Her ex-husband, Alfie Shepridge.

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He awoke in the middle of the night,

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Thought about eternity, broke out in a sweat,

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And it's been jogging and health foods ever since.

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Is that the best...? Is that the best one we have on him

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or do we have...? Do we have a more...?

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Let's just check and see if we have an angrier one.

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Just the "that's enough" would do it.

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So it's a fast cut to him.

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FILM REWINDS

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That's enough. Stop it.

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All right. That's a little bit better.

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You know, by the time you get the thing together,

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it's such a mess,

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and you're flitting around the editing room

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making all sorts of compromises and saying,

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"Oh, gee, if I put the last scene first

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"and the middle scene, you know, at the end of the picture

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"and get a narrator and use dissolves

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"and do opticals, and put this in slow motion and use titles here."

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And you're struggling for survival.

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And I still screw up a lot of the times.

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So that's why I've often said -

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and it sounds facetious, but I'm serious -

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that the only thing standing between greatness and me is me.

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You know, there is no excuse.

1:14:551:14:58

My question is for mr Woody Allen.

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Your film says many things about death,

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so I'd like to ask, how is your relationship with death now?

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My relationship with death remains the same.

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I'm strongly against it

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and, um...

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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Woody is not happy to have to promote the films.

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He doesn't like doing interviews,

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and he also is a big believer that none of the publicity ever helps.

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Woody complains about doing the red carpet in Cannes

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or in any festival or any premiere that we have.

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You know, it's a brief period of time,

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and I don't think it's as terrible as he likes to portray.

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The whole thing is a psychological nightmare for me,

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but my wife likes Cannes, the kids like Cannes.

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The distributors of the film, it's very important to them.

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And so, you know, I do it.

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It's a surreal, preposterous thing,

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because there's no experience in reality

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where you're in a tuxedo and you're walking up a red carpet.

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Hundreds and hundreds of people are screaming your name, and flashbulbs going off.

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This doesn't happen to a schoolteacher

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or a college professor, or a doctor or - you know.

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It has no reality to it.

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Woody!

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Woody!

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Woody!

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Woody!

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Woody!

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We'll be passing among them,

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throwing some raw meat in a little while.

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MAN LAUGHS

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I've always been a performer, as well,

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so, for me, it's not difficult.

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I can address, you know, 200 people or 100 people

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and sit at round tables with people doing interviews.

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You know, I'm used to it.

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And I'm used to doing two and three shows a night

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and doing nightclubs and, so, you know,

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it's not - not so difficult for me.

1:16:591:17:00

Woody Allen!

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When you go to a screening like here in Cannes, the people are friendly,

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they're rooting for you.

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They love you. They're, you know, in a festive mood,

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and they're here to see films.

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And so the fact that they're clapping and all of that,

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and the stars of the film that they've just seen

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are right there live, and they stand up.

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Of course they're going to be supportive just out of common politeness.

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You have to learn not to take that seriously.

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Well, it was a completely fake reaction by the audience.

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They faked it very well?

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They faked it, yeah. They're good at that.

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That's how they keep the festival going.

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Nobody ever comes up to you and says anything bad,

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so you learn to disregard all the compliments that you get

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because they never mean anything.

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I'd love to come up with an idea

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that pleased multitudes

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and, you know, huge swarms of people turned out

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and saw the picture two and three times,

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and it broke box office records,

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but I don't think that's ever going to happen in my lifetime.

1:18:211:18:25

Midnight In Paris has gone on to be the largest grossing movie

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that Woody Allen has ever had, worldwide as well as in America.

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At the present time,

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Midnight In Paris has crossed the 50 million mark in box office.

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Worldwide, it's at about 106 million.

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So my guess is we'll be well above 120, 125 million before we're done.

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It's like, it's a smash.

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-It's like he's Michael Bay all of a sudden.

-LAUGHS

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I don't think he has a great expectation

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of his movies are going to, you know, make much money here.

1:19:101:19:15

I think a lot of it's the title.

1:19:151:19:16

He said that he came up with the title Midnight In Paris before he had any story.

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And so, you know, people love, you know, that city,

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and it has such a hold on people's imagination.

1:19:261:19:30

And it's gotten some good reviews,

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and so it seems like people are turning out for this one.

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What are you doing?

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I don't know.

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I...

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I did feel, for a minute there while I was doing it,

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like I was immortal.

1:19:551:19:59

But you look so sad.

1:19:591:20:00

Because life is too mysterious.

1:20:001:20:04

This is the time we live in.

1:20:041:20:07

Everything moves so fast,

1:20:071:20:09

and life is noisy and complicated.

1:20:091:20:13

It's a happy accident,

1:20:131:20:15

because you try and make a good film every time out.

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And for some reason, Midnight In Paris

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was affectionately embraced by people.

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I think that's what they are.

1:20:271:20:29

I do believe this is the happiest I've ever known Woody.

1:20:311:20:35

He's in a good relationship, he has two lovely children,

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he's very devoted to them.

1:20:381:20:40

He seems to enjoy his life.

1:20:401:20:43

He's doing the work that he likes.

1:20:431:20:45

This is definitely the happiest I've seen him.

1:20:451:20:49

I love that his father lived to be 100

1:20:491:20:51

and his mother lived to be 96,

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because he's clearly taking great care of himself anyway,

1:20:531:20:56

and with those kind of genes, it means that we might have

1:20:561:20:59

Woody Allen at the age of 105 still making a film a year.

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Gloomy as he is about the prospects of immortality,

1:21:021:21:07

I think he has a fair chance,

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with a handful of other filmmakers of roughly his time,

1:21:091:21:14

to have a nice little place in history.

1:21:141:21:18

I have referred to Woody Allen in the pst as Albert Camus as comedian.

1:21:181:21:23

Camus said, "I do not want to die. I do not want anyone I love to die.

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"I am going to die, and everyone I love is going to die,

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"and that makes life absurd."

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And Woody believes that, but he's able to weave in humour.

1:21:331:21:36

Now, I think it probably does make it a bit more palatable.

1:21:361:21:40

But I would want to ask him, if life really is absurd

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and horrible and brutal, why are we laughing?

1:21:441:21:47

But shouldn't I stop making movies and do something that counts, like helping blind people

1:21:471:21:52

or becoming a missionary or something?

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ALIEN VOICE: Let me tell you, you're not the missionary type.

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You'd never last. And incidentally, you're also not superman.

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You're a comedian.

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You want to do mankind a real service? Tell funnier jokes!

1:22:011:22:04

Yeah, but I've got to find meaning.

1:22:041:22:07

When I look back on my life,

1:22:091:22:11

I've been very lucky that I've lived out

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all these childhood dreams.

1:22:141:22:16

I wanted to be a movie actor, and I became one.

1:22:161:22:20

I wanted to be a movie director and a comedian, I became one.

1:22:201:22:24

I wanted to play jazz in New Orleans,

1:22:241:22:26

and I played in street parades and joints in New Orleans

1:22:261:22:29

and played in opera houses and concerts all over the world.

1:22:291:22:33

There was nothing in my life that I aspired toward

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that hasn't come through for me.

1:22:361:22:39

But despite all these lucky breaks,

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-why do I still feel that I got screwed somehow?

-LAUGHS

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