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Scarborough, a seaside town on England's Yorkshire coast, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
and Britain's very first holiday resort. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Families and fun-seekers have been drawn to its shores | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
since the early 1600s, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
coming to bathe in its wide sandy beaches, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
and enjoy its traditional seaside entertainment. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
But that's not really why I'm here. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Do you know what's it like, Dennis, to feel undesirable? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
No, no, I can't say I do. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
-Norman, not that! -Why not? -Norman! -Because it's wrong. -Wrong? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Is it wrong to sit between my old pal Reg and this dwarf on my left? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
-Hello, little chap. -Hello. -Norman! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
They've been wrong, telling me to marry Paul and have babies, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
if they're not even going to let you keep them. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
And I should have joined the Mounted Police. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
That's what I should have done. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I should have joined the Mounted Police. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
TEARFULLY: I want to join the Mounted Police! | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-Please! -I'll get Paul. -What's the matter with her? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Paul! > | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
-What's the matter with her? -You'll have to get a doctor. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Dance, dance, dance. Come on, keep the feet moving, otherwise we never know when you've stopped. Stop! | 0:01:35 | 0:01:41 | |
-It's much wrong again. -Wrong again! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I've come to Scarborough because it's the home of Sir Alan Ayckbourn - | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
the world's most successful playwright. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
When I came up here, Alan, I came up a road called Paradise Road, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
and as I came to the top of Paradise Road, I thought to myself, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
"You know, I can see why it's called Paradise Road." | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Because it was this beautiful vision of the sea at the top of the road. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
Yes, we're in the old town, right bang in the middle of it. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
It's really the most interesting part of Scarborough. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
It's steeped in history, the whole place is wonderful. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And when you first came here, what drew you here? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
This was, what, in the '50s you came here? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
I was looking for a job, quite honestly. I was a young... | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
aspiring actor - | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
then an acting ASM working in places like Leatherhead | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and Oxford Playhouse. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
But I was a Londoner and was very ignorant of things north. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
And then somebody, as they do in the end of a season, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
I think it was in Leatherhead, said, "Anyone fancy a job in Scarborough?" | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
And I said, "Where the hell is Scarborough?" | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
They said, "Oh, it's somewhere up there. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
"You go up to York and then turn right." | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Alan Ayckbourn was born in London in 1939. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
His father Horace was lead violinist with the London Symphony Orchestra, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
while his mother, Irene Worley, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
was a writer of short stories, better known as the novelist Mary James, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
or, to her close family, as Lolly. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
I don't know if it's true or not true, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
but you were quite possibly conceived at Glyndebourne one afternoon | 0:03:58 | 0:04:04 | |
when your father Horace, who was a violinist with the LSO, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
was performing at Glyndebourne. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Your mother might have taken to sex in the afternoon and here you are. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
That's a nice story. I wasn't there... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Well, I was around at the time but I can't vouch for it. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
My mother was a ferocious... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
She was a writer, so she made up awful stories. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
But I'm sure that one was true. It's a nice way to be conceived, isn't it? At Glyndebourne. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
I couldn't think of anything nicer. But your mother... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
The story of your mother is absolutely captivating. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
You thought she was married to your father but you then discovered | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
that she wasn't actually married to Horace. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Yeah, I said, "Hey, folks, I'm illegitimate." And that's terrific. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-How romantic. -It's quite a thing, when you probably discovered that. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
When did you discover that? In the late '50s? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
-Oh, no, much later than that. '70s, I think. -Wow. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-So you didn't realise? -I was old enough to find it quite romantic. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
I think it would have been quite traumatic if I'd only been 10 or 11. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
In fact, one day we were on a bus and I met... | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
this extraordinary man in a beret. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
He said, "Oh, hello, Boo." | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
I thought, "Who the hell's Boo?" And it turned out to be my mother. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
He said, "Hello, darling, I haven't seen you for ages." | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
And he gave her a kiss and chat, chat, chat. I said, "Who was that?" | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
She said, "Oh, that's my ex-husband." | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
I said, "Really?" He turned out to be her current husband, actually. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
Very jolly little man. I've never seen him again. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
So he might well be my father, I don't know. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
The romance between Horace and Lolly didn't last, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
and Ayckbourn's parents separated. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Alan remained with his mother. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
As a child, how...? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
I mean, here you are, your father Horace and your mother have split. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Why did they split? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I think he was a serial romancer, my daddy, quite honestly. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
And he was sitting in the front row of the fiddle section of the LSO | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
and every now and then, he cast a look behind him | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and there was another lovely, young, new violinist. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
He'd say, "Hi what are you doing after the concert?" | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
If Mum wasn't in the audience. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I think that's probably how he met Daphne, his new wife. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
And... | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I asked my mum once why they split up. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
She said, "I'd just had enough of it. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
"I had all these women ringing up, saying... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
TEARFULLY: "I love him. I love him. He's the most beautiful man..." | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
She'd go, "Yeah, yeah, you should try living with him." | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
And then the 45th one rang up and said, "I love him," | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
and she thought, "No, this one's a sticker." | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
And so she said, "OK, you can have him." | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
I think she'd just had enough, really. But he was a charmer. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Your mother was extraordinary. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Not only did she have her own typewriter and typing away, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
writing her stories for magazines, and her short stories, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
but she bought you a typewriter at the age of six. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
So do I take it that you would both be sitting in the kitchen writing away together? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
I can remember... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
You know how those little flashes of childhood come back to you. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
I have a vivid one of me sitting under... | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
well, at table-leg height, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
getting covered in this terrible violet blue ink | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
that the typewriter gave me. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
And she was thundering away at 120 words per minute. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Rat-a-tat-tah. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
I just sat there and watched my mum. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
And she dragged me along with her to places like the Women's Press Club, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
which is the most terrifying thing for a male to be in. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Men weren't allowed in! | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
But because I was not really a male, but a very small male, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
I would sit amongst these very, very strong-minded, strong-voiced, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:08 | |
heavily made-up ladies of the press. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
Quite fearsome, most of them. Quite scary. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
And I sat there... I remember being in hairdressers | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and all sorts of strange places, editor's offices, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
and incredibly glamorous women floated in and out. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
-Wow. -So these strong-minded women, of course, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
are one of the features of your plays, which, I think, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
in its own way, it was rather revolutionary at the time to see | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
ordinary middle-class women, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
suddenly to see them in all their strength and personality, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
and, obviously, one begins to understand why, given that | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
you had this sort of domination of a woman in your life | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
who introduced you to this world. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Yes. I mean, she... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
I always think I was privileged to have what few men get the chance of - | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
maybe a lot of them don't want it - | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
but sitting listening to women talking to each other, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
woman to woman. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
And with the small child open tape-recorder going, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:22 | |
who is completely invisible to them or forgotten about. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
And it came back a few years... several years later, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
women come up and say, "How do you know that? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
"How do you know that's what we talk about?" | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
# I'm going to love you | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
# Like nobody's loved you | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
# Come rain or come shine | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
# High as a mountain | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
# And deep as a river | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
# Come rain or come shine | 0:09:59 | 0:10:05 | |
# I guess when you met me | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
# It was just one of those... # | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-Have you got him to sleep? -Yes. -Aw. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
They look so lovely like that, don't they? Like little cherubs. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
Yes, well, I'm really glad you could come this afternoon. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Colin really will appreciate that. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Seeing us all. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
What I'm saying is, really, I wouldn't blame him... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
not altogether...if he did... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
with someone else, you know, another woman. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Wouldn't blame him, wouldn't blame her. Not as long as I was told. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Providing I know, that I'm told, all right. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Providing I feel able to say to people, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
"Yes, I am well aware that my husband is having an affair with such-and-such or whoever, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
"that's quite all right, I know all about it. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
"We're both grown-up people, we know what we're doing. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
"He knows I know, she knows I know. So mind your own business." | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
I'd feel right about it. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
But I will not stand deception. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
I'm simply asking that I be told. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
Not to...necessarily know. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
But sometimes. See? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
After Lolly's marriage broke down, she married again. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
This time, to the local bank manager, Cecil. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
And then Lolly didn't even tell you she was about to get married again? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
There was a letter somewhere from me saying, "Dear, Mummy, I hope you have a nice marriage." | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
And she... Yeah. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
I was at boarding school from the age of seven. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Probably to accommodate her life as much as anything. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
So many of these features, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
this sort of rather dysfunctional family life that you had, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-seem to find their way quite easily into lots of your plays. -Yeah. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
I'm not aware that my feelings towards you have altered that much. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
-What, not at all? -Not that I'm aware of. I still feel the same. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Oh, Gerard, we don't kiss, we hardly touch each other. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
We don't make love, we don't even share the same bed now, we sleep at different ends of the room! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
That's just sex you're talking about, the sexual side. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-Yes, of course it is. -There's more to it than that, surely? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Not at the moment there isn't. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
You mean that the sex is the only thing that's mattered to you in our relationship? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
-No, of course not. -Well, that's what you seem to be saying. -What I'm saying is... | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
All I'm saying is that once that's gone, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
all that, it becomes important. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
If you hadn't been the son of Lolly, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
would you have written Woman In Mind? | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Well, I was aware that my mother was, at that point, going, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
as it were, slightly round the twist. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
And she was getting increasingly eccentric, even by her standards. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
And then the doctor, banging vaults into her head, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
didn't seem a very good idea. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Cos it didn't seem to be making her any better. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
That experience stayed with me | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and then I read the remarkable Oliver Sacks book, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
And I realised the potential | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
for perceiving things that weren't there, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
or the complex games your brain plays with you. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
Squeezy cow, squeezy. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I have no idea what you're saying. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
-What are you saying? -Sore bite. Sore bite. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
Who are you, anyway? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
-Where am I? -Octabinsa. Climb octabinsa. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
This is sure pardon, choosem. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Oh, God, I've died. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-TEARFULLY: -Oh, I'm in hell. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-I've died and I've gone to hell. -Choosen. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
Oh, why have I gone to hell? Why me? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-I've tried so terribly hard, too. Oh, terribly hard. -Susan. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
You've no idea how hard I've tried. There must be some mistake. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
-Susan. -Susan. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Yes, that's me. Susan. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Me, Susan! | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
As Alan helped his mother to rebuild her life again | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
after the breakdown of yet another marriage, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
he began trying to establish himself as an actor. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
It was while at boarding school that Alan Ayckbourn got his first taste of the theatre. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
Then an old school master, acquainted with the legendary actor-manager Sir Donald Wolfit, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
set him up with his first professional audition. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
He was the first professional actor I met up close. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
And I thought they were all like him. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Good morning to the day. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
And of course, he was a complete leftover from another era. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
Oh, Volpone, by blood and rank a gentleman, canst not... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
In meeting Wolfit, I was in direct touch with Irving and Tree and all the way back. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:23 | |
And here was the last of the great actor-managers. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Everything he said was law. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Big, big, big. Big face. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
Paws the size of potholes. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
..and lame indeed. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
HOWLS | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Full of old Five and Nine, make-up, which he'd never quite removed after generations of... | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
So he'd stick his face very close to you and say, "What are you doing?" | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
And you'd say, "Just bringing in..." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
And he'd say, "Well, walk properly." | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Anyway, it was encouraging, and, um...I auditioned for the great man. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
Were you any good? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Well, not that bad. I mean, I lacked an awful lot of technique, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
but what I lacked in technique, I made up for a lot in sincerity. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
And because I knew better than to show my lack of technique, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
I kept very, very still on stage. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
And, um, I got a lot of reviews. "His lizard-like stillness." | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
I wanted to be part of the theatre. I wanted to be an actor. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
After his summer season with Wolfit, Ayckbourn went to work at the Connaught Theatre in Worthing. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:40 | |
From there he moved on to the Thorndike in Leatherhead. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
It was at the end of that season that he heard about a job going in Scarborough. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
I came up on the train and then got picked up in a van and got driven | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
over the most fantastic countryside. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
When I arrived, there were several things going for it. First, it was by the seaside, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
which was ace as far as I was concerned, wonderful. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
The second thing was that, um... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
that it was a theatre in the round, which was good news as a stage manager | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
because it meant much less heavy humping and moving of scenery. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
So, um, that was good news. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
And third, of course, was it was run by a man called Stephen Joseph, whom I was yet to meet. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
I was employed sight unseen by this extraordinary maverick figure. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Stephen Joseph was to become Alan Ayckbourn's mentor and inspiration. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
The son of actress Hermione Gingold and publisher Michael Joseph | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
was a stage director and a pioneer of theatre in the round. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
It turned out Stephen was a... was a theatre figure | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
who did not easily court popularity. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
I mean, he attacked all established forms of theatre, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
which, as a 17-, 18-year-old, I thought was tremendous. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
He arrived here by accident on his motorbike one day | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
in pursuit of a space and the chief librarian said, "You can have the first floor." | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
I don't think he knew what he was letting himself in for. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Stephen Joseph opened the Library Theatre in Scarborough, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Britain's first professional theatre in the round, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
in 1955. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
So, there was this little makeshift space, with temporary seating, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
and do-it-yourself rostra, which we put up individually. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
And then this little acting area, 22 by 24, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
in which he proceeded to do mostly large, mostly new plays. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:53 | |
Despite London being at the centre of new British drama, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Ayckbourn was more than happy to remain in Scarborough working with Stephen Joseph. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
In 1959, he made his debut as a writer with a play called The Square Cat, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
written with his then wife, Christine Roland, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
under the pseudonym, Roland Alan. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
The Square Cat came about as a row I had with Stephen because I was appearing in a play | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
and I came off complaining about the part and he said, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
"If you can write a better play than this, you're on." | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
And I said, "Anyone can write a better play than that. I'm... | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
"I'll take you on, mate." | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
So the following summer, I presented him with...well, just before that, I presented him with The Square Cat, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:38 | |
which was...my whole ego was blown to bits | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
because I was writing for myself a leading role | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
where I displayed talents which I did not have, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
singing, dancing, all smiling. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
And, um...of course... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-Playing the guitar. -Playing the guitar. -Which you couldn't play. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
I got three lessons from a guy in Trafalgar Row just along the road. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
The Square Cat, written, directed and starring Ayckbourn, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
'was a farcical comedy and proved to be a hit with the Scarborough seaside audiences.' | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
Was it because this was a place which expected to be entertained | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
that you felt you had to write something which WOULD entertain them, one way or another? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
I think that was always in me. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:24 | |
I mean, inclement weather was fortunately on our side, I think. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
We all looked out of the window at 12 o'clock on a matinee day and prayed for rain | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
because a quick, sharp shower would bring them running in. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Um, and, um... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
I think, I think...Stephen's idea, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
which was populist, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
really, I mean, he just wanted to widen the barriers - which I carried on with - | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
widen the basis for theatre, where... | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
There's a terrible feeling in this country, quite often, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
where people feel that theatre is not for them. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
They are born with that feeling and they go on feeling that. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
And, um...one spent one's life trying to say, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
"Well, it is. You watch much more difficult things on television every day of your life, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:14 | |
"and yet theatre seems to be difficult, it's hard work." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Ayckbourn continued to write a play each year for the Library Theatre's summer season | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
and by 1964, writing under his own name, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
the experimental Mr Whatnot was the first of his plays | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
to be staged in the West End. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
And despite a stellar cast, including Ronnie Barker, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
it proved to be a colossal flop. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Universally sank with all hands on board. It was a terrible disaster. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
And Stephen said, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
"Look, forget Mr Whatnots and things, which are all very experimental for their time, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
"why don't you just try and write a well-made play?" And I went, "Well-made play? Please! | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
"I'm a new dramatist. I don't want to write Rattigan or Coward, for goodness sake." | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
Heavens! So I... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Then he persuaded me and I sat down and tried to write a well-made play. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
It nearly worked. Not quite. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
But it sort of...had wheels. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Well, it wheeled to the West End. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-Yeah. -And it had Richard Briers in it and Celia Johnson. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
-And it was a big hit. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
So Alan actually chose you to play the part of Greg. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Greg, that's right, yes. A young man in those days. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
And they said Ayckbourn was coming to the theatre just to see a little run-through early. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:41 | |
And he appeared, this rather badly-put-together person, and... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
with this one, terrible old suitcase and appeared in the auditorium. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
I said, "Oh, Mr Ayckbourn, nice to see you." | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
And I said, "Are you all right?" | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-He said, "I'm staying in digs at the moment." -In digs? -Yes, digs. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
-And I said, "You haven't got much luggage." -He said, "Well, I've only got one suit." | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
And I said, "That's dreadful!" And he'd had a tiny flop at the Arts Theatre, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
and this, relatively speaking, was unbelievable success. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
I couldn't believe it, er... when the reviews started coming in | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and the box office started rattling. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
And my bank balance went from alarmingly red to alarmingly black | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
in about the space of two weeks. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
And then you got a telegram. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Yes, from the man whom I'd scorned - Noel Coward. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
And what did it say? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
"Dear Alan Ayckbourn, thank you so much for a beautifully constructed, beautifully written play. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
"Yours sincerely, Noel Coward." | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
And I rang Dicky Briers up and said, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
"I got a... Are you winding me up? Someone sent me | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
"a telegram from Noel Coward." He said, "No, he was in last night. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
"He said he loved it, old boy." | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
And I said, "Did he talk about it?" | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
He said, "No, he just said, 'How old is the author?' | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
"And I said, 'Well, he's probably 26.' | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
"And he went, 'Oh, dear God! How depressing!' and left the room." | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
And, um...so that was nice. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
It was a nice moment. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
So there's this play which is phenomenally successful, which puts you on the map, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
but all this in the context of the theatre scene in London changing. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
Did you feel slightly isolated in... | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
I was writing plays with French windows, for God's sake! | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
The dramatist with so many people who don't worry about, you know, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
the war in Suez or anything, they just worry about cups of tea. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
So, um...I got a reputation rather rapidly for being... | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Phrases were used like, um... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
dizzy spin-like thistledown, you know, and all that business. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
So I was certainly lightweight. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
And, er, so I stuck with that label for quite a few years. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
Remember, this was the mid '60s, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
and British theatre had been revolutionised in the previous decade. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Osborne's Look Back In Anger, Beckett's Waiting For Godot, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Stoppard's Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
Bond's Saved, and, of course, there was Harold Pinter. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
When The Birthday Party flopped on its London debut, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
out of the blue, Pinter approached Stephen Joseph in Scarborough | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
and proposed that he direct his own production | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
under the banner of Scarborough's theatre in the round. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
So he arrived. And I remember, we auditioned for him in... | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
Glasshouse Stores in... It was a pub in Brewer Street, um, upstairs. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:50 | |
He looked at me and said, "Stanley." So I read Stanley, sight unseen. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
I said, "He's very interesting, this pianist, isn't he? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
"He comes...he comes on and talks about his concert career | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
"and then two men come along in a van and they bundle him out and he's taken off somewhere. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:09 | |
"So what I'm really interested in knowing, Harold, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
"is where he comes from, and secondly where he goes to in the van." | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
And he gave me that very serious look and he said, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
"I think the answer to that is mind your own fucking business." | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
I said, "Ah, thank you very much." | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
It's an answer I've always wanted to give an actor, but never had the courage to. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
That was a very valuable note from Harold. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
I thought, oh, maybe this guy does know what he's doing. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
Just six months after Relatively Speaking opened in London, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Ayckbourn's mentor, Stephen Joseph, died. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
But there was no question that Alan would remain in Scarborough, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
continuing the work that Stephen Joseph had begun. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Over the next few years, a pattern emerged. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Every summer, Alan would write and direct a new play for Scarborough | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
that would transfer to London the following year, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
albeit with a more established director and a starrier cast. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
In 1973, a year after he formally took over | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
as the artistic director of the Library Theatre, Ayckbourn wrote | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
what is arguably his most famous play. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
-Norman? -Hm? I mean yes? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
The Norman Conquest trilogy charts the relationships of six characters | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
as they come together over a weekend at a country house. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
Each play takes place, respectively, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
in the dining room, the sitting room, and the garden. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
They weren't designed for people who share a house with Norman. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Despite the riotous success of the plays in Scarborough, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
London producers were reluctant to put all three straight into the West End. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
But Ayckbourn didn't want them to be split up. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
So eventually, The Norman Conquest made its London debut at the Greenwich Theatre. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
Tom Courtenay played the part of Norman, and was joined by a cast | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
that would go on to be future stars of British television. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
Let's get seated. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Now, um, Reg, you go up the end there, won't you? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
One of the most popular of all Ayckbourn's plays, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
The Norman Conquest is also the closest to pure farce. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
'There's a scene when they have dinner.' | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Penny Keith is trying to set the places where everybody is to sit. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
No, not there, Ruth dear. Would you mind sitting one seat further up? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
'Eric Thompson,' | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
he directed the placement scene perfectly logically. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
It was quite amusing and it made sense. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
And then Alan came to see it being rehearsed. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
No, you're here, Tom. Sit here. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
-Oh. -Annie, you should be sitting here, you're the hostess. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
No, she can't sit there, she's out of order. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
-She's the hostess, she should sit at the head. -We've two women together. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
-I'll move down here, that's easy enough. -No, Ruth, you stay where you are... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'I remember, it was very confusing' | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
and we didn't quite know how to pace it. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
And he did come in. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Cos he sort of saw in his head exactly how it should be. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
I don't want to worry you, but now you've got a woman at both ends. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
That's what I'm saying. Why don't you listen? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
No, we've got Ruth there, then Annie, Norman over there and Tom next to... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
Ah, that's where we've gone wrong. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
Tom, you're in the wrong seat. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
-But I thought she said... -I'd like to sit down permanently. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-Will you listen? -Tom, move to the end. -Reg! | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
-I've just moved from there. -I'm sitting down now... | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
'His one simple move, that only he knew about, made the thing.' | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
It grew from being quite amusing to hysterically funny. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
And he has this sort of thing in his head about what's funny. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
Tom. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:01 | |
-Tom, you are sitting here. -Oh. Back where I started. -Reg, at the top. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
-This is wrong, you know. -At the top! | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
-Ruth... -I've sat down, I refuse to get up. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Ruth, you are all right where you are. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
-Good evening, carry on, talk amongst yourselves. -No, not there, Norman. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
Is that my father's suit you've got on? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
If he was a man with extraordinary arm and inside leg measurements, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
-yes, indeed. -Norman, not there. -Why not? -Because it's wrong. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Is it wrong to sit between my old pal Reg and this dwarf on my left? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
-Hello, little chap. -Hello. -Norman! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
-Sarah, this is all right, I'll sit here. -But now we've got... | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
-This is fine. -It's fine. -Fine. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
I mean, it was an absolutely huge hit, wasn't it? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
I mean, huge, huge. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
And the little bit where I sat at the dining table | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
on a small chair, the table's down, I ate like that... | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
I actually saw a bloke one night fall out of his seat | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
in the circle. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
Laughing. We couldn't stop them. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Penny Keith would be standing there on my left. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
Penny doesn't corpse, but she just couldn't hold it. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
The...the fright of it. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
The whole house up. Brilliant. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
I'd make it worse by going lower in the chair. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
I don't think I've ever before or since heard laughter like it. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Certainly not in Table Manners. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
For years afterwards, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
I couldn't go to have dinner with anyone, ever, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
without people saying to me, "Oh, Penny, come on, you know how to place people around." | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
The joyful thing about that is people used to say to me about Sarah, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
"You know, she's so like my mother, she so like my sister, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
"she's so like my wife." | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
By the summer of 1975, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
five Ayckbourn plays were running simultaneously in the West End, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
the most ever by a single author. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
To mark his success across the Atlantic, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
where four Ayckbourns were playing, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
the corner of Broadway and 45th Street was renamed Ayckbourn Alley for the day. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
Quite an achievement for a writer | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
who many were still eager to dismiss as a lightweight entertainer. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
But by now, Alan Ayckbourn's heart belonged to Scarborough | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
and he had determined his future, indeed, his destiny, was here. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
It's a small community. It's bigger than a village, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
and small enough not to become impersonal. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
As they say, all human life is here. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
In fact, once you settle here, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
which I've only just done permanently, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
and realised the undercurrents that go on, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
the politics and the rises and falls of individuals, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
which probably suit my style of writing, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
because I do write about small communities as a rule, not big general worldwide events. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
It's one big landlady in summer, Scarborough. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
It opens up and welcomes the rest of the world, a million visitors. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
And in winter it becomes itself again | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
when everyone goes about their own occupations. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
In the winter of 1976, rehearsals got under way | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
for the Library Theatre's production of Just Between Ourselves. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
I honestly think Pam and me have reached the end of the road. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
SANDER WHIRRING | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
I'm saying Pam and me have reached the end of the road. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Ah. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
Terrible thing to say. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
She's drinking as well, you know. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
-Yeah, I'm the cause of that. -I shouldn't think so. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
'Well, what I always try to do is write a very serious play. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
'Hopefully, it has this veneer of fun on top of it but it's only a veneer.' | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
Women need a rock. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
A rock. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Trouble is I'm a bloody marshmallow. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
SANDER WHIRRING | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
Weakness in a man, that's something women can never respect... | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
It is both funny and terribly, terribly sad. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
And it depends where you're standing. And I love that sort of humour. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
It is laughter on the one side, but tragedy on the other. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
And the two can run together. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
That's been my discovery through life of my plays. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
You know what it's like, Dennis? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
To feel undesirable? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
No, no, I can't say I do. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
-That's what he's done to me. -Sorry, who has? Are we still talking about Neil? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
He's made me feel ashamed. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Why should I be made to feel ashamed? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
-Depends what you've been up to, eh? -HE LAUGHS | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Hasn't even paid me the compliment of going after another woman. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
I think I could accept that. Just about. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
But to be frozen out... | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
So I was unnatural. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Some kind of freak. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
-Start her up, Dennis. -I can't, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
-I haven't got the keys. -Start her up and let's slip away. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Vroom, vroom. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-You all right? -Vroom. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-Pam... Pam! -Vroom! Vroom! | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
-Now, come on, Pam. Pam! -Vroom...oh... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
-Oh, Dennis. -What is it? | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
I think I'm going to be carsick. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
Hold on! Not on the upholstery you won't. Come on. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
Come on. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Oh, blimey O'Reilly. Bloody pikeys! | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
You can say what you like, Dennis. I'm not staying out here a moment longer. I want my surprise, Dennis. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
-Mother, can you give me a hand, please? -You naughty boy. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
-Look, mother! -It's all right, Dennis. It's all right. I've seen nothing, you needn't worry. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
-Mother! -It's all right. There's no-one in there. -Can somebody give me a hand? -Get out of my way. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
All right, on your own head be it. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Dennis? Dennis... | 0:36:35 | 0:36:36 | |
-Could you give us a hand, please? -I told you not to come in. Serve you right. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
There are certain things it's best a wife doesn't know about. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
You poisonous old woman! You're loving this, aren't you? | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
It's what you wanted all along, wasn't it?! | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
Dennis would go off with somebody to break up my home! | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
-Don't know what you're talking about. You're being... -You nasty old toad! | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-Oh! -You've always hated me. | 0:36:58 | 0:36:59 | |
-You've always wanted my home. -Now, Vera... | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
I don't know what's come over you. What's the matter with you? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
Please! Vera! | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-'I want you to put that... -You old toad! -Put that...' | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
COMMOTION CONTINUES TO FADE | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
'You CAN walk safely in daylight on your own street | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
'without feeling threatened, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
'without being subjected to 9-foot high obscene graffiti' | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
on every street corner. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
Parents, you CAN feel confident your children are free to go outside to play. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
Women, you can now walk without fear alone at night. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
There IS someone here for you, speaking out for you, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
fighting your corner, and that man is here! | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Standing in front of you today! Thank you and bless you all! | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
CANNED APPLAUSE | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Alan Ayckbourn's latest play, Neighbourhood Watch, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
not only deals with the familiar themes of the aspirational and dysfunctional world | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
of Middle England, but is also uncannily prescient | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
about the state of Britain today | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
and, in particular, the turbulent summer of 2011. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
-They've just been arrested. -Arrested, who has? | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
The Wrigleys, two of them, anyway. Typical police cock-up. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Can you believe they send two officers, two! | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
One of them was barely an officer. It was a policewoman. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
That's all they sent... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
'It's about a group of well-meaning citizens | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
'living on a suburban estate somewhere in the land I usually visit. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:36 | |
'Sort of, four or five miles outside Redding.' | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
...as bent as the Wrigleys, as they saw it... | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
'And they get fearful as, indeed, people do these days | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
'about violence and crime | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
'and imagined violence and imagined crime | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
'and so they start a well-meaning neighbourhood watch scheme, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
'only it goes sadly awry.' | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
We never intended to run our neighbourhood watch scheme on fear, did we? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Not exactly fear, just the occasional warning. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
You know, the occasional friendly warning. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
-Like the warning they gave to Mr Button? -What warning was that? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
-They set fire to his pigeons. -Dear heaven! | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
'It was written last October, I think.' | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
As we were rehearsing, people kept... | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Journalists kept ringing up and saying, "Can you foresee the future?" | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
And I said, "Well, I thought it might happen, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
but I didn't realise it was actually going to happen." | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Then we were sort of torn between being terribly topical | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
and wishing the riots would stop. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
I've taken certain precautions out there since the incident. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
I put up properly-worded signs. "Private property." "Trespassers will be prosecuted." | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
That sort of thing, at regular intervals... | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
'It does embrace a lot of my concerns about society today.' | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
I'll be amazed if half of them can read anyway. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
'We've polarised into people who take very extreme views.' | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
We do need to take action, certainly. | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
I believe it must fall well short of unprovoked violence. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Despite Ayckbourn's self-evident writing credentials | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
and the box office bonanza greeting each one of his plays, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
his knack of giving theatregoers a good night out | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
still grated with the majority of critics and reviewers well into the '70s. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
So it came as a shock when Sir Peter Hall, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
the director of the National Theatre, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
not only commissioned him to write a new play, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
but asked him to co-direct as well. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Alan surprised everybody by his... | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
certainty of who he was... | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
as a writer. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
I wasn't going to do Bedroom Farce | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
if the author didn't really want me to. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
So I tried to manufacture a situation where he did | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
what I wanted and I did what he wanted. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
And it...it worked. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
How did the critics respond to the fact that you had put this on? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
Oh, they were enraged, almost to a man, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
that we should be using public money | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
in order to amuse ourselves by doing commercial plays. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
This was disgraceful! | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I mean, I really couldn't believe it. I thought they'd taken leave of their senses. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
Peter Hall was bravely and defiantly single-minded. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
If some thought Bedroom Farce sat uncomfortably | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
with the familiar National repertoire of classics and new writing, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
they'd also failed to notice that Ayckbourn's play | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
had been the longest-running show in repertoire in the National's history, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
and was providing the subsidised theatre with much-needed income as well. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
Peter Hall wanted Alan Ayckbourn back at the National, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
directing, not only his own work, but other playwrights', too. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
There's a quote in the biography of Alan which says, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
which quotes you as saying, to Alan Ayckbourn, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
"No doubt, you can do very well without the National Theatre. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
"But can the National Theatre do without you?" | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Yes, I hope it's one of those enigmatic questions. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
That was quite a brave thing to do. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
-I mean, someone who... -Yeah. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
Who was, I thought, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
a very good director, but not sure of it himself. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
And I think the test of him coming to the National | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
and the test of me asking him to come to the National | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
are both of them pretty dangerous moments. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
But theatre is like that. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
Alan took leave of absence from Scarborough and headed south, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
a big step for the writer who'd enjoyed the autonomy of being outside of London. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
But Hall had presented him with an offer he just couldn't refuse - | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
to direct a whole season at the National | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
with his own company of actors. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
Alan said that you were the one actor he knew he wanted | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
from the start when he was casting. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
He tells the story of how he took you out for lunch | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
and as you're both men of few words and large appetites, as he put it, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
you had "fixed the season before the soup was on the table." | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Yes. And then we just carried on eating. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
Alan's quite quick when he wants to be. He just put the whole season in front of me | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
as though it would make any difference to me, as though I'd read it, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
I just looked at it and said, "That's perfect." | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
He gives you a lot of freedom to develop your own character. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
He's a great director. He's calm. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
And logical and... | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
good. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:49 | |
I took out of my own moat to give to her. I took out of my wife's moat. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
I walk hungry plenty of days in this city | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
and now I've got to sit in my own house | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
and look at a son of a bitch punk, like that, which he come out of nowhere. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
I give my house to sleep. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Take the blankets off my bed for him. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
And he takes and puts his dirty, filthy hands on her like a goddamn thief! | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
-But, Eddie, she's a woman now! -Stealing from me. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
She wants to get married, Eddie. She can't marry you, can she? | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
What are you talking about marrying me? What the hell are you talking about? | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
Arthur Miller saw Ayckbourn's production of the View from the Bridge | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
and said that it was the best he had ever seen. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Despite his residency at the National, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
Ayckbourn continued to write for the company in Scarborough, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
returning each year for the traditional summer season. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
I mean, it is almost... He finishes with... | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
I mean, almost that. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
Many of his earlier plays were now seen as classics | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
and were not only a staple of the amateur dramatics scene, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
but proving hugely popular on television | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
with a regular slot in the Christmas TV listings. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Absurd Person Singular is set in three kitchens | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
over three consecutive Christmases. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
-Still raining, I see. -Oh, shut the door, it's coming in. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
Oh, cats and dogs. Dogs and cats. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
18.23. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
18.23, getting on. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
-Seven minutes, they'll be here. -Oh. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
-I've got a few games lined up. -Games? -Just in case. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
This production made a lasting impression | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
on a young Catherine Tate. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
I would have been about 13 or something, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
and I just happened to stumble upon this, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:54 | |
this sort of event going on on my television. | 0:45:54 | 0:46:00 | |
And with people that I don't think up until that point, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
I'd recognise from TV. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
I'd more recognise them from my life, probably! | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
And I was really pulled in by it. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
-MUMBLED: -You know. -Hmm? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-What? -Presents. -The what? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
SHE MUMBLES | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
Oh, well, yes, of course! That's why we came, wasn't it? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
-We've brought you a present. -Seasonal something! -Oh! | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
-Thank you. -Oh, I'm afraid we didn't | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
bring anything for you and your husband. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
-We didn't realise you'd be here, you see. -Oh, sorry about that. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
-Never mind. -Not to worry. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Oh, we could give them the... | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
-You know, that we got given this evening. -The what? -You know, the... | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
-That we got in the thing. -What, that? They don't want that! | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
No, I meant the... | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
You know! | 0:47:00 | 0:47:01 | |
SHE PANTS | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
Oh, well, if you like. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Now, this is nothing very much. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
We were given it this evening in a cracker, actually. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
Now, we were going to keep it for our budgie, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
but we thought your George might like it. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
For his collar! | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Oh. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:21 | |
-So you know where he is! -Yeah, as if you couldn't guess! | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
Woof, woof! | 0:47:26 | 0:47:27 | |
-Woof, woof! -Thank you. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Woof, woof! Woof, woof! | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
-Thanks a lot. -Right, that's your lot, no more. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
I'm terribly sorry, but I'm afraid we haven't got you anything at all. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
We're not really much ones for present-buying. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
-Oh, we didn't expect it! -No, no! | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
'It had a very lasting effect on me, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
'to the point where I thought what I knew I wanted to do was after | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
'I had seen the TV show, I wanted to see the words.' | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
Because I think his language | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
and the precision of his characterisation is exquisite, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
and it just made...it delighted me. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
What I really honed into was the comedy of it, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
it wasn't comedy with a laughter track, it was proper comedy acting. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:24 | |
But there was nowhere to tell you when to laugh. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
There was these people, not in happy situations, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
but what was coming out of it, well, it was painfully funny. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:35 | |
But for me, I just thought, "Wow, amazing." | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
Something really struck me about the image of this scene | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
carrying on where a woman is trying to kill herself. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
And Eva, I think the character is, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
and there's lots of domestic stuff going on, and in the background | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
this woman is trying to concuss herself on the oven, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
or hang herself, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
and I just thought, "This is a world that's opened up to me," | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
and I just got very excited about it. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
-CRASH Oh! -Aah! | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
-Mrs Jackson! -Aah! | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
You shouldn't be down on the cold floor, you know, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
not in your condition. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
You should be in bed, surely. Here. Now, you sit down here. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
There. Oh, now, don't you worry about that oven now. That oven can wait. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:31 | |
You clean it later! | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
No point damaging your health for an oven, is there? | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
Mind you, I know just how you feel. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
You suddenly get that urge, don't you? | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
You say to yourself, "I must clean that oven if it kills me. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
"I shan't sleep, I shan't eat until I've cleaned that oven." | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
It haunts you. I know just that feeling! | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
The women, in a way, come across more sympathetically | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
in his plays, ultimately, than anyone else, don't they? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
Yeah. I've no doubt that's to do with the extraordinary bond and influence | 0:50:01 | 0:50:09 | |
of his mother, and I guess, presumably, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
that's where he gets his writing genes, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
because she was churning out stuff at a rate of knots, wasn't she? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:21 | |
-She was. -On the kitchen table, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
and the idea that she got him one to bang along with... | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
But yeah, he has | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
a fantastic take on the women, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:38 | |
on the female characters that he writes. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
In February 1999, Alan's mother, Lolly, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
the woman who'd inspired him since childhood, passed away. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
Your mother lived to quite a ripe old age, didn't she? | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
-She was in her 80s... -80s, yeah. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
..when she died, and at her funeral at Scarborough in the crematorium, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
you brought her here, you wrote an address, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
and I think Heather read it, didn't she? | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Yeah. I couldn't read it. I said it would just break me up. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
And then she read it, and she burst into tears, bless her. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
I just want to read you some of it, because it's rather extraordinary. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
"To someone who gave me gin as a baby to help me sleep at night, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
"who once introduced me to a strange man in a beret | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
"on top of a bus in the Strand as a previous husband, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
"who made me a birthday cake when I was seven, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
"short-sightedly using salt instead of sugar, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
"who once threw my father's framed photograph of me at me in a fury, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
"and told me all men were bastards..." | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
"..who one night fell through my front door | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
"so drunk that I had to carry her to bed, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
"who gave me far more complexes, hang-ups, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
"phobias, prejudices, inspirations and self-insights | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
"than any writer has a right to expect from a parent. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
"To her, many thanks, much love, and farewell." | 0:52:00 | 0:52:05 | |
Well, I knew... | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
I was determined to write something, and I sort of sat down, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
and I thought, "I can't write a lot of sentimental schmaltz," | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
because that wasn't our relationship at all. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
I mean, it was much sparkier than that. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
So I thought, "Well, I'll just pile on the images | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
"just as they come to me," | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
and that was my mum. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
THEY SPEAK IN FRENCH | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
You're probably thinking, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
"Why am I watching a film by that great master of French cinema, | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
"Alain Resnais, | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
"director of Last Year In Marienbad and Hiroshima Mon Amour?" | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
Well, that film, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:16 | |
which won the Silver Lion at the Venice Film Festival five years ago, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
is the third made by Resnais adapted from an Ayckbourn play. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
It's no exaggeration to say that after his mother, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:29 | |
Resnais is Ayckbourn's greatest fan. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
I've come to Paris to interview him and his wife, Sabine. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
Resnais has asked to meet me at this hotel, however, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
he's notoriously shy, and does not wish to be seen on camera. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
THEY SPEAK IN FRENCH | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
Resnais and his wife, Sabine, came here to Scarborough every year | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
for ten years before ever setting eyes on their hero, Alan Ayckbourn. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:01 | |
And then, one day at the theatre... | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
-Somebody said, "Hey, Alain Resnais's in tonight.". -Here in Scarborough? | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
Yeah! And we were doing a play called Revengers' Comedies. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
And I said, "Oh, yeah, great. And Jean-Luc Godard's in the gents(!)" | 0:56:02 | 0:56:07 | |
And I said, "Well..." And he said, "No, I know what he looks like!" | 0:56:07 | 0:56:13 | |
I went out and there was this massively tall man | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
with this white mane, who looked so out of place. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
And on his arm was the most drop-dead gorgeous woman I've ever seen. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
I thought, "That has to be Alain Resnais!" | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
I thought, "This is surreal!" | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
And, um, so... | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
He kept coming back and then he asked if he could make a film of mine, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
and then he said, "Sabine and I want to get married, | 0:56:54 | 0:57:00 | |
"and we'd like to get married in Scarborough, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
"because this is where..." | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
This gets more and more bizarre! | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
So he asked if Heather, my wife, and I would be witnesses. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
And I said we would be absolutely honoured. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
So, anyway, we went and witnessed their wedding | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
and then we took them out to dinner. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
And I said to Sabine, "This is amazing, it's so nice. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:27 | |
"This is your wedding night | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
"and we haven't given you a proper present. What would you like most?" | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
And she said, "I would love to be in a play of yours in Scarborough." | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
And suddenly, there I was, sitting on stage, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
Alain in the audience with a digital camera, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
directing Sabine Azema. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
I felt more like Jean-Luc Godard than ever! | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
But it's not just Alain and Sabine. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
All the world, it seems, loves Alan Ayckbourn. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
The Poles. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
The Finns. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:06 | |
The Italians. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:09 | |
The Germans. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
The Japanese. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
The Swedes. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
The Czechs. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
Alan Ayckbourn is quite simply the most popular living playwright in the world today. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:25 | |
Except, possibly, that is, in Brazil, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
one of the world's fastest-growing economies. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
But now, the Brazilians too are rapidly getting in on the act. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
Actor and director Eduardo Muniz has been here in Scarborough for months, | 0:58:42 | 0:58:47 | |
following the rehearsals of Neighbourhood Watch. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:50 | |
Anorexic teenage girls who just slip out and walk away, laughing, calm as you like. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:54 | |
Makes a mockery of justice. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:56 | |
When you look at those characters on the stage, | 0:58:56 | 0:59:01 | |
-do you recognise those people in Alan Ayckbourn plays? -Easily. Easily. Easily. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:05 | |
Every one of them, we can recognise, cos it's so well-written. | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
It's very human nature. | 0:59:09 | 0:59:11 | |
So it doesn't matter if it's in Africa or America or here, or China. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:17 | |
I think his work is worldwide. | 0:59:17 | 0:59:20 | |
You can do this in every corner of the world, I think. | 0:59:20 | 0:59:24 | |
And why not in Brazil? | 0:59:24 | 0:59:26 | |
THEY SPEAK PORTUGUESE | 0:59:26 | 0:59:29 | |
Just a few weeks after returning from Scarborough, | 0:59:35 | 0:59:38 | |
and Eduardo is already in rehearsal with his Portuguese | 0:59:38 | 0:59:41 | |
translation of Neighbourhood Watch. | 0:59:41 | 0:59:43 | |
The reading will form part of the second annual Ayckbourn week | 0:59:43 | 0:59:47 | |
here in Sao Paulo. | 0:59:47 | 0:59:48 | |
And, this year, Ayckbourn's 61st play, Snake In The Grass, | 0:59:52 | 0:59:56 | |
has been touring venues throughout the city. | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
THEY SPEAK PORTUGUESE | 0:59:59 | 1:00:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:00:30 | 1:00:32 | |
I feel very strongly about people | 1:00:49 | 1:00:51 | |
whose work that is considered populist | 1:00:51 | 1:00:54 | |
is then not considered... | 1:00:54 | 1:00:56 | |
-Serious. -Serious. And of worth. | 1:00:56 | 1:00:59 | |
And I don't know, but I suspect | 1:00:59 | 1:01:03 | |
because he has been very prolific, | 1:01:03 | 1:01:07 | |
somehow that kind of diminishes his stock as a serious writer. | 1:01:07 | 1:01:12 | |
Alan Ayckbourn is one of our greatest writers of all time. | 1:01:12 | 1:01:17 | |
In fact, I think it was in the New York Times | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
when The Norman Conquests went over. | 1:01:20 | 1:01:23 | |
It said there are three great writers - Shakespeare, Chekhov | 1:01:23 | 1:01:28 | |
and Ayckbourn. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:30 | |
And that was the company he was keeping in this man's eyes. | 1:01:30 | 1:01:33 | |
At the end of this month, Neighbourhood Watch will transfer | 1:01:33 | 1:01:37 | |
with the original Scarborough cast to a theatre off-Broadway. | 1:01:37 | 1:01:41 | |
It will be directed by the author. | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
'Prolific as ever, nothing it seems will stop Alan Ayckbourn, | 1:01:45 | 1:01:50 | |
'not even the stroke which he suffered in 2006.' | 1:01:50 | 1:01:54 | |
What went through your mind when that happened, about your work? | 1:01:54 | 1:01:58 | |
Well, I was shocked, really. | 1:01:58 | 1:02:00 | |
One always thinks one is immortal until something like that happens. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:05 | |
I was lying in the hospital, I was there for eight weeks, | 1:02:05 | 1:02:07 | |
and I was sort of slowly, | 1:02:07 | 1:02:10 | |
as the panic went down, I was thinking, "At least I can direct. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:15 | |
"But I don't quite know whether the writing thing will come back. | 1:02:15 | 1:02:19 | |
"I think as soon as I'm reasonably mobile | 1:02:19 | 1:02:22 | |
"I can certainly re-tackle the body of work." | 1:02:22 | 1:02:26 | |
And then mysteriously a little trickle of an idea, | 1:02:26 | 1:02:32 | |
I always start with these little flickers. | 1:02:32 | 1:02:34 | |
I thought, "Oh, God, there is a tomorrow!" | 1:02:34 | 1:02:37 | |
Good evening. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
This one's opening and there's a new one coming. | 1:02:55 | 1:03:00 | |
That's probably what keeps me going. | 1:03:00 | 1:03:03 | |
Just the excitement of this opening. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:08 | |
And then I need a new excitement, | 1:03:08 | 1:03:10 | |
like a sort of mad literary mountaineer, | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
I just need another peak to climb. | 1:03:13 | 1:03:15 | |
Martin, wake up! Oh, no, these lights aren't working, | 1:03:18 | 1:03:21 | |
I don't know what's happened to the lights! | 1:03:21 | 1:03:23 | |
-Martin! Martin, wake up. -We can talk about it! -Martin, it's me. | 1:03:23 | 1:03:27 | |
-Next door's on fire. -Next door? The house? -Next door's on fire! | 1:03:27 | 1:03:32 | |
It's on fire, it's on fire! I saw it from the window! | 1:03:32 | 1:03:34 | |
-Yes, we know it is, Magda, dear. -Oh, it's well alight, it's blazing away. | 1:03:34 | 1:03:38 | |
What are we going to do, what are we going to do?! | 1:03:38 | 1:03:40 | |
They seem to be tackling it. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:41 | |
But will it spread to us? We don't know if it's going to spread! | 1:03:41 | 1:03:44 | |
-It might. -What are we going to do?! | 1:03:44 | 1:03:47 | |
-Do be quiet, Martin's trying to think! -All right there? | 1:03:47 | 1:03:50 | |
Carefully! | 1:03:50 | 1:03:51 | |
Oh. | 1:03:53 | 1:03:55 | |
Woo! | 1:03:55 | 1:03:56 | |
This is the police. | 1:03:56 | 1:03:58 | |
You are ordered to throw down your weapon | 1:03:58 | 1:04:01 | |
and step outside with your hands raised. | 1:04:01 | 1:04:04 | |
-Oh, heavens! It's the police. -I know it is, Hilda, I can hear. | 1:04:04 | 1:04:08 | |
-What are you going to do? -I'll do as they say. | 1:04:08 | 1:04:10 | |
This is an official police warning. | 1:04:10 | 1:04:12 | |
You are ordered to throw down your weapon | 1:04:12 | 1:04:15 | |
and to step outside with your hands raised. | 1:04:15 | 1:04:18 | |
-They think I've got a weapon. -Tell them you haven't got one. | 1:04:18 | 1:04:21 | |
I haven't got a weapon! | 1:04:21 | 1:04:23 | |
-This is not a weapon, it's Jesus! -This is your final warning. | 1:04:23 | 1:04:29 | |
Throw your weapon on the ground now | 1:04:29 | 1:04:31 | |
and proceed outside with your hands in the air. | 1:04:31 | 1:04:36 | |
I said I haven't got a weapon. | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
I can't throw this on the ground, it'll break - see. It's Jesus. | 1:04:38 | 1:04:44 | |
See, look, see. Can you see? It's Jesus. See, it's Jesus. | 1:04:44 | 1:04:51 | |
GUNSHOT | 1:04:51 | 1:04:52 | |
Oh! | 1:04:52 | 1:04:53 | |
Martin! | 1:04:53 | 1:04:55 | |
Oh, Jesus! | 1:04:55 | 1:04:57 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:05:05 | 1:05:08 | |
Neighbourhood Watch opened to outstanding reviews. | 1:05:17 | 1:05:19 | |
It has embarked on a national tour, to be followed by a New York run. | 1:05:19 | 1:05:24 | |
No doubt it will then make its way | 1:05:24 | 1:05:27 | |
to countless theatres across the globe. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:30 | |
I think Alan Ayckbourn is Scarborough's gift to the world. | 1:05:30 | 1:05:34 | |
BELL RINGS | 1:05:34 | 1:05:36 | |
The hanging of the programme! | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
CHEERING | 1:05:42 | 1:05:44 | |
The 300th new play and Alan's 75th. | 1:05:44 | 1:05:50 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 1:06:07 | 1:06:10 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 1:06:10 | 1:06:13 |