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This programme contains very strong language.

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I'm gagging to get on. I'm like a greyhound in a trap.

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It actually is like being able to fly.

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Stand-up is such an opportunity to tell the truth.

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You can say whatever you want.

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You're selling your ideas and your thoughts.

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They want a human connection with you.

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Stand-up comedy is such a powerful medium, because you feel,

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if it's done properly, you're laughing and you're evolving.

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As an art form, it is the only art form

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where you can immediately feel the responses of it.

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You just say what you feel, you connect and bring the audience in.

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A kind of wave comes,

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and when it gets to a certain point I step onto it like a surfer.

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As soon as you get one taste of it, I was ready to give up everything.

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That is a magic feeling. You can do whatever you want with all this.

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Then you've got to come off.

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Then what?

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You want to be back on stage again.

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Someone referred to it as the joke coke.

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It's a good description, because it can be addictive.

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Like sometimes when you come off stage after an amazing gig,

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you're just like, "Let's do that again, I want to go back on."

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ANTICIPATORY CLAPPING

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CLAPPING SPEEDS UP

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Don't take this personally. Born in Chelsea, Holland Park school...

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-I've never been so offended in my life.

-..Ulster University.

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-Aren't you a bit of a fraud, really?

-Yes.

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(IN ACCENT) I talk like this for some reason because I thought it was funny.

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I thought the concept of an energetic

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but slightly unfocused Middle Eastern accent

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was something that would get me started off quite well.

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-Most of the time, you've got that look on your face.

-A lot of the time, yeah.

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I feel I'm smiling.

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People don't say, "Cheer up, it might never happen,"

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but that happened all through my life.

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I was just given this face that doesn't smile very much.

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My school was Haberdashers' Aske's School in Elstree,

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-a minor public school.

-Such an underprivileged background.

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There we go. Although, of course,

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Haberdashers' is a strange locus of comedy, because I went there,

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Sacha Baron Cohen went there, Matt Lucas went there

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and that is to do, obviously, with young, slightly cocky, Jews.

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It's very rare to have a very good-looking stand-up,

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because they can already be in the centre.

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You just wonder what the need was,

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because you've already got that. We're already looking at you.

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It's a brilliant thing. It's just this bit before.

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It's the uncertainty of not knowing the audience

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but as soon as I'm on there tonight I'll be fine.

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It's my fault for running around like an idiot.

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If I was deadpan, this wouldn't happen.

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And this is where I start pacing, running through each bit of my set.

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I go on with the stopwatch with my bottle of water.

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As I go on, hit that, put it down with my water. No-one notices.

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Then every time I have to drink my water, which is loads because I sweat all the way through,

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I can have a sneaky check of the time and no-one knows.

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Did you have this need to perform from very early on in your life?

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Yeah, I did, yeah, and subsequently found out

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when I was in the drinks clinic

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trying to rid myself of certain things, they said

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"That's why you were a comedian. You were a born alcoholic.

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"You wanted to be centre of attention,

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"and your job is the easiest way of getting it."

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-My dad, I think, having been a pop singer...

-Was he?

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Aspired... I think he saw showbiz as it is -

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the great escape for the working classes.

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So, yeah, his advice to me was not

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"get a trade" and all the things that my other mates' dads were saying,

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it was "get on the bandwagon".

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How are we doing sound check-wise?

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The individual jokes are easy to remember.

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the problem with it is remembering the order,

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you know, 250 jokes in an hour and a half.

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Stand-up comedy is maybe a personality disorder that you can do for a living.

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I don't think that's a bad description of it.

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There is an element of self-analysis involved,

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of poring over your own life, which might not be too healthy.

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You can have really bad things happen in your life,

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and all you're thinking is,

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"Well, this could be the end of an Edinburgh show."

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It's time.

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OK, two minutes. Thanks.

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Right, we're going to go on stage now.

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Are we doing it? It's happening, it's happening, it's happening.

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See you in a little while.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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How are we doing? Are we well?

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You know from the first joke roughly how it's going to go.

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Hello, good to have you here. I know, it's mortifying, isn't it,

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cos everyone can see you. Sorry we had to start the show "on time".

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LAUGHTER

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Smiling is no good to a comedian.

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It's about volume. I must get my volume.

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-What do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking?

-I'm a nurse.

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You're a nurse. Fantastic.

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In the old days, they used to get applause, but not any more.

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Now everyone around here is thinking "Ooh, MRSA."

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LAUGHTER

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I'll go on and talk about where I've been, what I've been doing, what's going on, what I've noticed.

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Ow!

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And then go on about how difficult I find life with women.

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I went and got myself married a while ago again,

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because odd numbers are good for me.

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And she's a nice girl, with a flat head to put your pint.

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I think OK, we've got the joke,

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and then I do it literally in front of the mirror.

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And I will keep doing it until it will make me laugh

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and then I go, "Ha! That's it."

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"You're being racist!" "About who?" "Those white people over there!"

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"Which one in particular?"

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"I don't know, they all look the same to me."

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Why I always wear suits on stage is,

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I like the nothingness of it to be taken seriously.

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Are you not sick and tired

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of hearing about Harry "fuckface" Potter?

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It's a huge feeling of kind of sharing with the audience

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your view of the world and the reward from that is they get you.

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Whereas acting is all about character, I think for me,

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stand-up is about attitude, and that informs everything you do onstage.

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The weirdest thing about being a comedian is,

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when you walk out into that light,

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'you're saying that you're the funniest man in the room.'

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It's me.

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The first line or two are very, very important, you know.

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Just to get it that little bit off the floor.

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I feel particularly splendy today. I do.

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No, today, ladies and gentlemen, I finished my first novel.

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It's taken me a long time to read a book, but there you go.

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'I've always tried very hard to be as funny as ordinary people are,'

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just ordinary guys, the way welders used to do it in the Clyde,

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just make you laugh round the fire

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when you were toasting your sandwiches.

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There were a lot of funny guys, you know, not telling jokes,

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just having a go at the foreman, the conditions, whatever it was.

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I always thought, "God, I want to be as funny as that,

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"how do you get as funny as that?"

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I was a phenomenally late starter for a comedian.

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I did my first gig when I was 30.

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When you lived in the West Midlands in the 1970s,

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showbiz seemed like a long way away

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and so it didn't really seem like an option

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to do anything of that nature.

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So I was happy being a sort of stand-up comedian at school

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or in the factory or in the pub.

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It was very much humour is a saving grace,

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that was the message I got, growing up.

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So, whenever I felt marginalised at school or even

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when I was an adolescent growing up and everyone was copping off

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at parties and they had girlfriends and no-one was interested in me,

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there was some culture week going on

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and I did a sketch and the teacher said,

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"Let's put it on in front of the school." And I just remember

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the laughs was like an avalanche of noise, I just remember thinking,

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"I quite like this!"

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And it wasn't so much the feeling of the laughter,

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it was afterwards, having sixth-formers patting me on the head,

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saying, "That was really funny, mate, I didn't see that one coming."

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We left around just before the revolution of '79.

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I would have been almost four,

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and I was six when the revolution happened.

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What my mum and my dad did then to shield us children

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was to make light of it and to laugh about it -

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my dad is a comedian and a writer, satirist.

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Everyone used to come up to me and go, "Oh, your dad's so funny, are you as funny as your dad?"

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So, for myself and my brother, the sort of measure of being,

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you know, an acceptable human being was on how funny you could be.

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There was no comedy clubs at all then,

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just working man's clubs, stag shows, that was where an agent would phone you up -

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"I want you to do three on Friday night, two on Thursday, four Wednesday,

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"write them all down." You'd do three a night and get fifteen quid a time.

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You were doing old jokes that people tell you in the pub.

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The trick that I used to be quite good at was painting a sort of picture,

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using different accents and painting a picture in people's minds

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and the fact I could do Irish accents and this cartoon West Indian accent,

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I stuck with what I knew and just picked the best jokes

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that I'd heard and strung them together.

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My Auntie Margaret took me to the theatre.

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I was only eight or nine.

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We would go and see Liberace and people like that,

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but they would always have a comedian to end the first half.

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They didn't call them stand-up comedians,

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they called them front-of-cloth comedians

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because you stood...they stood right on the edge of the stage with the curtain at the back -

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their job was to keep you interested while they changed the scenery back there.

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I used to just wait and wait for these guys to come out.

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There was an English comedian called Bentley who did the Empire circuits,

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the Glasgow Empire, and I just couldn't wait,

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I saw Max Wall, I saw all these wonderful guys.

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That's when I thought I would like to be a comedian.

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We're going to play the final game, called Junos and Jeffers.

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Have you ever played Junos and Jeffers?

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You know, where you stand and say, JUNO what happened to so-and-so?

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JEFFER see anything of so-and-so?

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As a kid, I loved, loved Groucho Marx.

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I love you, I love you anyhow.

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I don't think you'd love me if I were poor.

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I might, but I'd keep my mouth shut.

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I loved the idea of just being able to do those completely crisp,

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all lean meat, one-liners. No storytelling or anything,

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I'm not interested in those...you know, there's always a great storyteller. No, that bang!

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I feel you are the most able statesman in all Fredonia.

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Well, that covers a lot of ground. Say, you cover a lot of ground yourself.

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You better beat it. I hear they're gonna tear you down and put up an office building.

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You can leave a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff.

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If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.

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You haven't stopped talking since I came here. You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.

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For me it starts with Grouch Marx, really, which is...

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suddenly you've got someone who's... you know, he's dressed in this

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kind of slapstick way, but he's doing very, very modern comedy,

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a very modern persona, it's arch, it's knowing, it breaks the camera wall.

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Promise me you'll follow in the footsteps of my husband.

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How do you like that? I haven't been in the job five minutes and already she's making advances to me.

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Not that I care, but where is your husband?

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Why, he's dead.

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I'll bet he's just using that as an excuse.

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-I was with him till the very end.

-No wonder he passed away.

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Bob Hope, a brilliant comedian. Bob Hope, absolutely brilliant.

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A lot of people tell me that when a big star comes to New York

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they're besieged by autograph hounds, that's what they tell me.

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Well, we have a GI audience, with all servicemen -

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don't throw the camera on them, they may be AWOL - but I wanna tell you...

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You need to have a sense of what works in front of a crowd.

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It's not just shouting, it's not just "Look at me, look at me."

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but you get a good instinct for what a crowd is like, as an animal.

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No, please... Who cued that, who cued that?

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I've often said that comedy is about jokes

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rather than about character and plot and all that stuff.

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Basically because I've written a couple of sit-coms

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and I'm rubbish at character and plot, so I'm keen to push the stuff

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I'm good at as being what comedy's all about!

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An Irishman on a building site, eating a big piece of Gorgonzola.

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You won't get 45 minutes each way and a band at half-time.

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Come into a restaurant and he said, what's on the menu?

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Don't mess about, they've been playing for money!

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There's a great divide in comedy when you stop being able to just tell jokes,

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just learn all these and I'm going to go out and go, "Murphy and Casey walked into a bar..."

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You look at old tapes of Dave Allen and they're jokes, they are JOKES jokes.

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And then, the basis became more and more personal as they came along.

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A lot of people ask me, why do I drink during the show?

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And is it because I need the drink to get through the show?

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I can tell you now, the reason I drink

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is it does, sitting here, get very hot.

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A tremendous amount of lights,

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and the only reason I have the drink is basically to keep cool.

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I want to make it quite clear that I am not reliant on alcohol

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to get me through... GET AWAY FROM THAT!

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How do you think I get through the show?

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Dave Allen could tell a story, and within that story he would use

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the framework of that story to then digress into various observations.

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It's really nice to watch that sort of relaxed,

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you know, drink there and fag on the go, here's what I think about shit.

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A very important part of the Irish way of life is death.

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If anyone else, anywhere in the world dies, that's kind of it.

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But in Ireland, when someone dies, we lay them out and watch them for a couple of days.

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There is a sense that Irish comics tend to be predominately storytellers,

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long-form storytellers.

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We tend to pick a topic and run with it for a while.

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And the terrible thing about dying over there is you miss your own wake.

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The best day of your life.

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You've paid for everything and you can't join in.

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You build up something that's long and feels organic,

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and feels like one train of thought.

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"Mary, are you there, darling, are you there?"

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And she goes, "I'm here, love, I'm here beside you."

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"I'm going, I'm going."

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She says, "I know... Don't hang about, now."

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It's like putting a stone in running water,

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and the water takes the edges off it and smooths it out.

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"Mary, before I go, I'm gonna ask you the question, tell me now,

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"that skinny little runt standing at the end of the bed, is he really my son?"

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She says, "He is. Honest to God, he is your son."

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And he goes...

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And she goes, "Thank God he didn't ask about the other three."

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One of the things a stand-up wants to create is a coherent stance.

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When you're writing, you want it to appear that this is definitely you, it's your personality.

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The test is often, with the comic, when they're knocked off the script.

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The script, they're just the bullets and you're the gun.

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You know, you have to be the funny thing.

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A lot of the time, you have to be the fall guy.

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You know, you have to be the weak link in the story.

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If it's about being bad at sex,

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you're the one who's being bad at it,

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you're not the guy observing somebody being bad at it,

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and the story mustn't be, "Oh, I was great, but she was awful."

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The funniest stories are always about inadequacy.

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I think the insecurity's very important.

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I think, without it, there's no human being there.

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I'm not really interested in seeing comedians who just come out,

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confident and loud in a shiny suit.

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I don't know where the human being is in that person,

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I don't know where their fear is,

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I want to know about their... I want to know who they are.

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In stand-up there should be no restrictions between what you're feeling,

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what you're saying to your friends, to yourself, and what you say to the audience.

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So, by going in front of the audience with only a few bullet points,

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you end up just having to say these things -

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you're desperate for something to connect with someone.

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The truth is usually what connects them, usually what's funny.

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What you've come for tonight is not a honed, good, funny show.

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Don't have that expectation.

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You're here for me to try out stuff for people in the future who have paid more.

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Right, let's begin.

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I shouldn't be asking them to write the jokes for me, but...

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I've got an awkward relationship with my father.

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My dad says, "Let's have a chat." Can't just talk to me. "Let's have a chat."

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It has to be this formalised thing where I go over,

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sit down next to him... And here's how he begins our chat.

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"So...?" That's not a question, is it?

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"So..."

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I don't know what to do about that now.

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I'm going to give it... I'm going to say, "Tick, with better audience."

0:20:350:20:39

LAUGHTER

0:20:390:20:41

Look, what have you paid? Six or seven pounds?

0:20:410:20:44

Yeah. Fuck you. Cos...

0:20:440:20:47

I'm quite famous.

0:20:470:20:49

My mum would say, "You should really give them what they want.

0:20:490:20:52

"They'd love to hear your stories about show business, and they'd love to hear..."

0:20:520:20:57

It's not interesting. They might, and they might laugh for an hour.

0:20:570:21:00

"Oh, my God, he's so funny, we're laughing, we're laughing."

0:21:000:21:03

And afterwards, they'd go home and go, "He just sort of spoke about pop music."

0:21:030:21:08

Whereas, I think, what I do, they might not laugh as much...

0:21:080:21:12

but they go home thinking, "Well, that was interesting!"

0:21:120:21:15

So, I was in Amsterdam, which is sort of a sexualised place anyway.

0:21:150:21:19

But I was thinking about sex just about the whole time I was there,

0:21:190:21:23

just about the whole three days I was there,

0:21:230:21:25

apart from maybe 25 minutes in the Anne Frank museum.

0:21:250:21:29

And I was there for an hour.

0:21:310:21:33

"That's a nice cupboard."

0:21:390:21:41

I'm not so interested in saying, "Haven't we all got toasters?

0:21:440:21:47

"Oh, yeah, we've all got toasters. Yeah, we like toast." It's not...

0:21:470:21:51

So? I can't bear the celebrations of the mundane.

0:21:510:21:55

I'm more interested... I'm more interested in saying,

0:21:550:21:58

you know, "The world seems mundane, the world seems rigid and stiff,

0:21:580:22:01

"and here's what's really going on."

0:22:010:22:03

I've realised, whatever problem I have with another person...

0:22:030:22:07

I've been alive long enough now to realise that those people are recurring characters -

0:22:070:22:13

different people, but just the same thing cropping up again and again.

0:22:130:22:17

So I've made a list of the recurring characters in my life,

0:22:170:22:21

because I'm odd.

0:22:210:22:23

This one... This is the annoying... OK.

0:22:240:22:27

"The beautiful humourless boy who I fancy a lot

0:22:270:22:31

"but who I'm also very angry with for being so beautiful

0:22:310:22:34

"and not laughing when I say clearly funny things."

0:22:340:22:36

I get quite angry in this section.

0:22:400:22:43

It can't all be funny for seven pounds!

0:22:430:22:46

Do you just want laughs or do you want more than laughs?

0:22:460:22:49

-Much, much more.

-HE LAUGHS

0:22:490:22:53

Sometimes I'm annoyed they're laughing. I think, "Why are you laughing?

0:22:530:22:57

"You should be asking me if I'm all right."

0:22:570:22:59

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:22:590:23:01

I'm quite lonely. Let's start with that.

0:23:240:23:27

Nothing can be done about it, people of Dublin.

0:23:310:23:34

Nothing can be done.

0:23:340:23:35

I bought a new flat about two years ago. In this flat,

0:23:350:23:39

in the bathroom, there are two sinks.

0:23:390:23:42

I thought that would bring me some joy.

0:23:420:23:45

It is a constant reminder.

0:23:470:23:50

And so what I've had to do - this is what I'm doing now in my life,

0:23:520:23:56

I'm actually doing this - I'm using both sinks.

0:23:560:23:59

I now every day brush my teeth in the left sink

0:23:590:24:03

and in the right one mainly cry.

0:24:030:24:05

Do you ever worry that you're revealing too much of yourself when you do this?

0:24:070:24:11

No, the opposite. I always think,

0:24:110:24:13

"Have I really said the actual truth of this situation here?

0:24:130:24:18

"Or did I just get a laugh with that?" And that's safe, to stay there.

0:24:180:24:22

I always think there's somewhere deeper to go and somewhere more interesting.

0:24:220:24:26

I really wanted to change myself a lot last year cos I felt I wasn't getting enough sex.

0:24:260:24:31

And it's a fun thing to do, it's a shame not to have more of it.

0:24:310:24:35

And the reason I wasn't achieving the getting of more sex

0:24:350:24:39

was because I would see someone at a party that I really liked,

0:24:390:24:42

and I'd think, "Gosh, he seems just about perfect. Who knows what could happen?

0:24:420:24:47

"I could end up spending the rest of my life with him."

0:24:470:24:50

And what I would do every time to woo him,

0:24:500:24:52

to pursue him, to make him see that I was the one for him,

0:24:520:24:55

is I would go home and hope that I saw him again.

0:24:550:24:59

Because for me to go up to someone and say,

0:25:000:25:03

"Hello, what's your name?"... Perfectly lovely question.

0:25:030:25:06

"Hello, what's your name?" Nothing wrong with that question.

0:25:060:25:09

It's a delightful curious question, but, to me, it would definitely come out like,

0:25:090:25:13

(NERDY) "Hello, what's your name?"

0:25:130:25:16

When you go through your life

0:25:180:25:21

and the ups and downs and the traumas,

0:25:210:25:24

do you ever think when you've had a particularly bad day, or a bad experience, do you think,

0:25:240:25:28

"Oh, well, there's some material there at least?"

0:25:280:25:31

Almost too quickly. It's almost upsetting...

0:25:310:25:35

how quick it can become material.

0:25:350:25:38

I recently went through a break-up,

0:25:380:25:40

and I'm already talking about it.

0:25:400:25:43

And it's... I was talking about it three days after it happened.

0:25:430:25:46

Is that a consolation of any kind, do you think?

0:25:460:25:49

It is eventually.

0:25:490:25:51

But I'm kind of...

0:25:510:25:55

I'm annoyed that it is sometimes, because it means I'm not feeling things fully.

0:25:550:25:59

And that's part of what's wrong with me.

0:25:590:26:01

So while people talk about stand-up being therapy, it can be the opposite sometimes,

0:26:010:26:06

because it stops you from fully immersing yourself in the pain,

0:26:060:26:10

because you can fix it quickly, it's almost magic.

0:26:100:26:12

And because you're outside observing it, very rapidly...

0:26:120:26:16

Yeah, I'm outside all the time. I'm outside of it.

0:26:160:26:19

I'm not in there, feeling hurt, feeling angry,

0:26:190:26:23

feeling upset. I'm looking at this idiot,

0:26:230:26:27

who should be crying or is crying,

0:26:270:26:30

and sort of making fun of him. And it's me! It's me.

0:26:300:26:35

HE LAUGHS

0:26:350:26:37

'One of the brightest comic talents'

0:26:370:26:39

to come from America in years,

0:26:390:26:41

an offbeat comedian, successful screenwriter et cetera,

0:26:410:26:43

and a very powerful sex symbol, signed...signed Woody Allen.

0:26:430:26:49

And here he is, Mr Woody Allen.

0:26:490:26:53

APPLAUSE

0:26:530:26:55

'I don't even know how I would exist as a performer at all

0:26:550:27:00

'if Woody Allen hadn't invented it.'

0:27:000:27:03

I don't know what the precedent is, other than him, for being an insecure, anxious person on a stage.

0:27:030:27:08

I do not go to dentists.

0:27:080:27:11

I don't like doctors.

0:27:110:27:13

Well, let me start this at the very beginning, I like doctors

0:27:130:27:16

but I once had a pain in my chestal area

0:27:160:27:21

and I was convinced that it was heartburn,

0:27:210:27:24

because I was married at the time

0:27:240:27:26

and my wife used to cook for me all the time with those Nazi recipes, you know.

0:27:260:27:31

Chicken Himmler for dinner every night.

0:27:310:27:34

And I didn't want to spend 25 dollars to go to the doctor

0:27:340:27:37

and have it reaffirmed that I had heartburn.

0:27:370:27:39

Cos it wasn't worth it.

0:27:390:27:42

But a friend of mine at that time got a pain in the exact same spot

0:27:420:27:47

and I figured if I could get him to go to the doctor

0:27:470:27:51

I could figure out what's wrong with me.

0:27:510:27:54

For me, a lot of stand-up is about creating a grotesque,

0:27:540:27:58

if you like, of identifying what it is about you

0:27:580:28:01

that will make people laugh and then exploiting that, if you like.

0:28:010:28:05

Woody Allen's doing hysterically funny stand-up about..

0:28:050:28:09

conniving stories out of nothing, out of surrealism,

0:28:090:28:14

out of being the nerdy Jewish guy who everyone starts to recognise.

0:28:140:28:18

If the audience are convinced what you're saying is true, they'll laugh.

0:28:180:28:21

If they get a sense that it's not true, they won't laugh.

0:28:210:28:24

So I talk him into it and he goes. Cost him 25 dollars.

0:28:240:28:29

He's got heartburn.

0:28:290:28:31

And I feel fabulous because I beat the doctor out of 25 dollars.

0:28:310:28:35

And I call my friend two days later and he died.

0:28:350:28:38

I check into the hospital immediately, I have tests run

0:28:410:28:45

and X-rays. It costs me 150 dollars.

0:28:450:28:49

I had heartburn.

0:28:490:28:50

I'm furious now. I run to my friend's mother,

0:28:500:28:55

and I say, "Did he suffer much?"

0:28:550:28:57

She says, "No, it was quick. A car hit him and that was it."

0:28:570:29:00

'The Jewish tradition wins, in stand-up comedy.'

0:29:020:29:06

Make a list of great American stand-ups and it's Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.

0:29:060:29:11

Being Jewish tends to not really be about religion.

0:29:110:29:14

One is more likely to worship Woody Allen than God.

0:29:140:29:16

And so it's really a cultural voice

0:29:160:29:19

that one is always either channelling or trying to find,

0:29:190:29:23

and in America, through the way that those...from Groucho Marx through to Woody Allen -

0:29:230:29:27

they have defined comedy.

0:29:270:29:29

APPLAUSE

0:29:290:29:31

This is a different type of show than you ever saw before.

0:29:370:29:40

That's why everyone in the world is getting excited.

0:29:400:29:43

This is a one-man show, which disturbs a lot of people.

0:29:430:29:46

A lot of people say, "Who is one Jew to make such a comfortable living?"

0:29:460:29:49

All great things throughout history were accomplished by one person working alone.

0:29:510:29:56

Michelangelo. The greatest painter, in my opinion, who ever lived was Michelangelo.

0:29:560:30:01

Why?

0:30:010:30:02

Because he painted the whole Sistine Chapel all by himself.

0:30:040:30:08

It took him 30 years, because the man was a schmuck.

0:30:080:30:10

KLEZMER MUSIC

0:30:180:30:20

It was overwhelmingly hot in New York

0:30:230:30:25

and all the Jews went to the Catskills.

0:30:250:30:28

That was like the French Riviera to the Jews on the Lower East Side.

0:30:280:30:32

As soon as it became warm,

0:30:320:30:34

the heat was unbearable in the summer.

0:30:340:30:37

There was very few people had air conditioning.

0:30:370:30:40

Everybody was sweating. It was unbearable.

0:30:400:30:43

So everybody knew the Catskill Mountains were the only place to go.

0:30:430:30:47

That was it. That's where all the Jews were.

0:30:470:30:50

By the time I was 18, I said to myself,

0:30:500:30:52

"I could probably become a social director in the mountains."

0:30:520:30:55

I wasn't thinking of being a professional entertainer,

0:30:550:30:58

but there was such a thing in the mountains -

0:30:580:31:00

almost every hotel, regardless of how small they were, even if they had 12 people,

0:31:000:31:04

they hired a social director to entertain the people day and night in the hotel.

0:31:040:31:08

I worked at a place called the Butler Lodge.

0:31:080:31:13

Any and every comic that I can think of that came out of New York

0:31:130:31:16

probably did some gigs in the Borscht Belt.

0:31:160:31:19

I remember I got up and I did my opening.

0:31:190:31:23

What was your opening?

0:31:230:31:25

Good evening, ladies and Jews. Er...

0:31:250:31:28

I met a beautiful girl last night,

0:31:280:31:31

but she was skinny. I mean, this was a very thin girl.

0:31:310:31:35

I took her to a restaurant - she was so thin

0:31:350:31:37

that the maitre d' said, "Check your umbrella, sir?"

0:31:370:31:41

And I... You know, that was my opening.

0:31:410:31:43

-And the minute I did it, I heard...

-MIMICS MUTTERING

0:31:430:31:46

So I just cupped my ear and listened very closely.

0:31:460:31:50

"Oh, English, English. Oy, English."

0:31:500:31:53

They were so unhappy and I had no idea.

0:31:530:31:56

I had one or two Yiddish jokes - I forget what they were -

0:31:560:31:59

and I did them and they cheered

0:31:590:32:01

as if we had won World War Two or something, you know?

0:32:010:32:05

Just... They understood it.

0:32:050:32:08

When you started to perform or tell jokes,

0:32:080:32:10

did Jewish humour come out of that, or the humour that they shared?

0:32:100:32:14

There's certain things that might be peculiarly Jewish about certain kinds of humour.

0:32:140:32:19

The self-effacing humour, the comedy about being persecuted,

0:32:190:32:24

rejected, an outcast, plays on words or thoughts, ideas,

0:32:240:32:28

and very seldom doing the physical crazy comedy that the Gentiles do.

0:32:280:32:33

When a Gentile walks into a restaurant, they're very nervous,

0:32:330:32:36

they walk in like, "How do you do? May I sit down?

0:32:360:32:38

"How long should I wait? Nine years, why not?

0:32:380:32:41

"Nine years is OK." You ever see how a Jew walks into a restaurant?

0:32:420:32:45

Like a partner. "Hello!

0:32:450:32:48

"Let me see my table!"

0:32:550:32:57

All small groups - you know, the Irish, the Jews -

0:32:590:33:02

all small groups evolve a particular kind of comedy

0:33:020:33:05

out of their persecution.

0:33:050:33:07

The Jews have done it particularly well,

0:33:070:33:09

perhaps because they've been more universally persecuted than anybody else.

0:33:090:33:14

And partly what you do is you get mastery over your...

0:33:140:33:16

You get mastery over your fate by making fun of yourself.

0:33:160:33:20

And when you make fun of yours....

0:33:200:33:22

I've often described it as a form of masochism.

0:33:220:33:25

When a masochist knows that there's trouble coming, he organises it.

0:33:250:33:30

No matter which table you show 'em -

0:33:300:33:31

"You call this a table for a man like me?

0:33:310:33:35

"I don't sit so close to a wall, so far from a window.

0:33:350:33:38

"My wife don't like to face this way, I don't like to face that way, we don't like to face this way."

0:33:380:33:43

You anticipate what's coming, you make a joke out of what's coming, you've won.

0:33:430:33:47

You're in charge and you've won, as it were, intellectually.

0:33:470:33:50

I mean, Jews love that, particularly.

0:33:500:33:53

It takes them three hours to pick out a table, then they start a whole new fight.

0:33:530:33:57

"Why is it so draughty here?"

0:33:570:33:59

'Because there were so many Jews, I guess, in entertainment,

0:34:020:34:05

'I grew up with British Jewish jokes.'

0:34:050:34:08

The Two Ronnies, the end of the world has happened,

0:34:080:34:11

and the religions...

0:34:110:34:13

There's only the Jews and the Mormons left

0:34:130:34:16

and they're going to join together as a religion

0:34:160:34:19

and their headquarters is going to be in Salt Beef City.

0:34:190:34:22

You know, that's a proper hardcore Jewish joke.

0:34:220:34:25

A joke when it's well told is not confined. It's not confined to the group.

0:34:250:34:30

That's mainly what you want it to do. Can you make it leap out,

0:34:300:34:33

can you make it leap over the wall of your community into everybody?

0:34:330:34:37

And the great ones can.

0:34:370:34:38

Good evening, my people!

0:34:470:34:49

CHEERING

0:34:490:34:52

And you know, Omid is a very powerful name in Iran.

0:34:530:34:56

You know, Omid means "hope".

0:34:560:34:59

It's just a shame that Djalili means "less".

0:34:590:35:02

Does being an immigrant give you an advantage, do you think?

0:35:040:35:08

I don't know if it gives me an advantage. If a lot of great comedy comes from pain,

0:35:080:35:13

I think certainly I've had my fair share of pain as a child

0:35:130:35:16

and as an adolescent and the confusion I've had. I'd gone from being quite proud to be Iranian

0:35:160:35:21

to suddenly all the images coming out of Iran of people like slapping their heads

0:35:210:35:25

and there was a very strong violent feeling from Iran,

0:35:250:35:29

Islamic fundamentalism, and it was a negative image,

0:35:290:35:32

so starting off doing comedy

0:35:320:35:34

and talking about my Iranian culture seemed quite healing.

0:35:340:35:38

Ayatollah Khomeini - he wrote a book about what you can do

0:35:380:35:42

and what you can't do in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

0:35:420:35:44

Iranians, back me up on this.

0:35:440:35:47

Page one, page one says the sweat of a man -

0:35:470:35:50

that's the sweat of a man -

0:35:500:35:52

who has had sexual intercourse with a pig is impure.

0:35:520:35:56

After sunset.

0:35:590:36:01

That's the big one.

0:36:010:36:03

A lot of Iranians would then say, "Why are you making fun of your culture?"

0:36:030:36:07

And there were so-called Iranian "intellectuals" who would say,

0:36:070:36:10

"You should talk about our great 3,000-year civilisation, the Persian empire.

0:36:100:36:14

"Why you making fun of our culture?"

0:36:140:36:16

And so I stopped using that particular cab firm.

0:36:160:36:19

Someone said, "Oi, in the Middle East, have you got an institution like the Samaritans?"

0:36:190:36:23

I said, "What do you mean?" "If you're depressed, want to kill yourself, who do you call?"

0:36:230:36:27

I said, "Of course we've got the Samar... We don't call it the Samaritans.

0:36:270:36:31

"In the Middle East, we call it a recruiting centre."

0:36:310:36:35

People call up saying, "I want to kill myself!"

0:36:380:36:41

"Very good.

0:36:410:36:42

"Very good.

0:36:450:36:47

"There's a bus leaving in ten minutes.

0:36:470:36:51

"Could I have your waist size, please?"

0:36:510:36:53

That's so wrong, but so funny.

0:36:560:36:58

I think just by talking about Iran in a comedic context

0:36:580:37:02

was quite a powerful thing. Because I think the British psyche is,

0:37:020:37:07

if you make fun of yourself you must be all right,

0:37:070:37:10

so if there's an Iranian representing Iranians and they can be ironic, they must be OK.

0:37:100:37:14

'They all seem to operate en bloc.

0:37:250:37:28

'They're either a good crowd or a bad crowd.'

0:37:280:37:30

Even, "Oh, they were a bit slow. They were a bit sl...."

0:37:300:37:33

These people have got varying educational abil...

0:37:330:37:36

How can they all be a bit slow on the jokes?

0:37:360:37:38

Often when you play in old theatres there's that hole in the curtain

0:37:380:37:42

that actors have put in there to have a look at what the crowd's like.

0:37:420:37:46

And if you look out and there's six fat blokes in football shirts,

0:37:460:37:50

you're thinking, "Oh, well, maybe I won't do my Bernard Levin material."

0:37:500:37:54

Is this taking you back, madam?

0:37:540:37:56

'Do you ever get nervous?'

0:37:560:37:58

Terrified. Still do. I mean, really terrified.

0:37:580:38:02

I have to not drink the night before.

0:38:020:38:04

You know, don't get drunk, for heaven's sake, don't have a hangover.

0:38:040:38:08

"Why are you hitting your dog?"

0:38:080:38:10

"You won't believe it, Officer, he fucking ate my tax disc."

0:38:100:38:14

'Unless I've been doing the show ten or 12 times'

0:38:140:38:17

I'll be really, really nervous, you know.

0:38:170:38:20

Dry mouth, dry sicks, shaking.

0:38:200:38:23

HE LAUGHS

0:38:230:38:26

So, anyway,

0:38:260:38:27

what am I fucking talking about?

0:38:270:38:29

'I get very anxious. I've even sought help about it.'

0:38:290:38:32

You know, I went to see some shrinks about it

0:38:320:38:35

and got pills and things for it. And it was getting out of control,

0:38:350:38:40

because the biggest symptom is you just forget everything.

0:38:400:38:44

Before I left New York to come here, I was.... MAN SHOUTS

0:38:440:38:48

CONNOLLY LAUGHS

0:38:480:38:51

Fucking boom! He walked right into it.

0:38:530:38:58

I know there was a time at the beginning, I was so...

0:38:580:39:01

so shit scared of hecklers.

0:39:010:39:04

MAN SHOUTS

0:39:040:39:06

What's that?

0:39:060:39:08

SHOUTS AGAIN

0:39:080:39:10

LAUGHTER

0:39:100:39:12

You've got a cock in your mouth, sir, I suggest you take it out.

0:39:120:39:17

Then we can hear what you're saying.

0:39:170:39:20

But now I think it's important to... not be open to it in the sense that you encourage it,

0:39:200:39:25

but if people shout things they want to communicate,

0:39:250:39:28

it's because they want to say something to you and it's very good to just listen.

0:39:280:39:32

I think as a comedian it's not about just getting...

0:39:320:39:34

You've got two channels in your head. One is to do your material

0:39:340:39:38

and then the other one is to live in the moment, so if someone wants to say something, let them say it.

0:39:380:39:42

What's the difference between heckling and a dialogue with your audience?

0:39:420:39:46

-A dialogue? I don't want a dialogue.

-You don't...?

-I talk, they laugh.

0:39:460:39:51

That's it.

0:39:510:39:52

How do you deal with the hecklers?

0:39:520:39:54

One of my chaps goes over and has a word in his ear.

0:39:540:39:57

-Sounds scary to me!

-Well, it is scary, yeah, but you've gotta stop it.

0:39:570:40:02

It's no good shouting with 'em. If that guy's heckling me, no-one else can hear what he's saying.

0:40:020:40:07

I'll be wasting my time trying to think of a smart-arse answer to him.

0:40:070:40:10

All that people will see is the top of my head.

0:40:100:40:12

I tell all the young comics who speak to me, "Don't do hecklers."

0:40:120:40:16

I loathe hecklers. I haven't one good syllable to say about hecklers.

0:40:160:40:19

When you've come out of the club circuit and all that

0:40:190:40:22

and you're in the concert hall and you're good at what you do,

0:40:220:40:25

you're a storyteller, they should be gone.

0:40:250:40:28

There's an element of manners should take over.

0:40:280:40:31

Right, the ticket's dear,

0:40:310:40:33

it's a different venue,

0:40:330:40:37

people have had a bath to come here.

0:40:370:40:40

Sit down, shut up and listen.

0:40:400:40:42

Hello! How are we doing?

0:40:530:40:55

-CROWD: Yeah!

-That's a good start

0:40:550:40:57

if you can answer the basic questions.

0:40:570:40:59

This is a wee try-out show for Stand Up For The Week,

0:40:590:41:01

so if the jokes are funny on a boat, they're funny on the telly.

0:41:010:41:06

I always like to have a look at the audience

0:41:070:41:10

to see whether there's people that might fit certain routines.

0:41:100:41:15

If it's a small room and there's only five people there

0:41:150:41:18

and their faces are right in front of you,

0:41:180:41:20

that's when it's the most terrifying,

0:41:200:41:22

because as soon as something doesn't work,

0:41:220:41:24

you know about it instantly

0:41:240:41:26

cos you've got five people staring at you in silence and that is...

0:41:260:41:30

I find that terrifying.

0:41:300:41:31

Give it up for Jack Whitehall!

0:41:310:41:33

Good evening, everyone! Are we well?

0:41:370:41:39

Yeah, thanks very much for coming out to see the show.

0:41:390:41:42

As Kevin said earlier, there's football on,

0:41:420:41:45

which is good, as a comic, cos I instantly get a gauge

0:41:450:41:48

of exactly who we've got in the audience.

0:41:480:41:50

All the men who did art and drama at school

0:41:500:41:52

and then women that are thoroughly in control of their relationships.

0:41:520:41:56

"I might stay in, watch the Champions League with the lads."

0:41:560:41:59

"No, you won't! You'll be coming with me to the boat

0:41:590:42:02

"cos I've got your dick in my fucking handbag."

0:42:020:42:05

You've just arrived, you know, out of your teens into this scenario.

0:42:050:42:09

You've been sort of really...

0:42:090:42:10

-You gave up university.

-Yeah.

-History of art. You gave it about three minutes and then moved on.

0:42:100:42:17

I'd already started doing stand-up on stage and I'd got the bug.

0:42:170:42:20

Every lecture that I sat in, everything that I thought was like, "Why would I want to do this?

0:42:200:42:25

"I've been on the stage, I've done stand-up. That is the most amazing thing, this is boring.

0:42:250:42:29

What I like about Britain's Got Talent

0:42:290:42:31

is you see these little rural versions of it.

0:42:310:42:35

The best one I've ever seen - Yeovil's Got Talent.

0:42:350:42:38

Massive poster on a town hall.

0:42:380:42:39

Last year's winner were a set of twins.

0:42:390:42:42

I asked a woman in a pub what was their talent.

0:42:420:42:44

"Spitting image of each other but they were a different person."

0:42:440:42:48

That's not strictly a talent, is it?

0:42:480:42:50

I'm completely out of my comfort zone when trying out new material.

0:42:500:42:54

I'll be overtly aggressive in my delivery

0:42:540:42:57

and sort of oversell them and often swear a lot as well

0:42:570:43:00

without meaning to, and you sort of use all these things to veil

0:43:000:43:04

the fact that you're not confident in the joke yet.

0:43:040:43:07

Some of the shows I like are getting ruined.

0:43:070:43:09

Midsomer Murders - I fucking love Midsomer Murders. I can't watch it now, cos if I do I'm a racist.

0:43:090:43:14

They say they need to get more black people in the village in Midsomer.

0:43:140:43:17

Well, that's a tough gig, isn't it? Being the first black person there.

0:43:170:43:21

Every time there's a murder, getting hauled in for questioning.

0:43:210:43:24

"Do you know why you're here?" "Because I'm black?"

0:43:240:43:26

"Yes. Do you have an alibi? Where were you when the murder happened?"

0:43:260:43:30

"I was being held in a cell for last episode's murder, which happened when I was on holiday."

0:43:300:43:36

If they don't laugh at something, you cut it and never do it again,

0:43:380:43:41

so, you know, it's completely in their hands.

0:43:410:43:43

They edit it for you, really.

0:43:430:43:45

There's a lot of crosses or a maybe.

0:43:470:43:51

When you first start, the most frustrating thing as an act

0:43:510:43:55

is when people say to you,

0:43:550:43:57

"Oh, good. You had some very nice jokes but you haven't found your voice yet."

0:43:570:44:01

And it's so frustrating because you know that they're right

0:44:010:44:04

and you know that to find your voice is, you know,

0:44:040:44:08

the most important thing as a comic, but also one of the hardest things.

0:44:080:44:12

The task was to write something where you imagine the world as if it were different.

0:44:260:44:32

You could redesign the world in any way you chose and it can be anything.

0:44:320:44:36

It can be silly, political.

0:44:360:44:38

Excellent.

0:44:380:44:39

Let's hear it for Dave.

0:44:390:44:41

I was watching the other day...

0:44:420:44:44

Recently, the local elections have happened and the Eurovision Song Contest has happened.

0:44:440:44:49

And I felt it'd be much better if they did the election coverage

0:44:490:44:53

much more like the Eurovision Song Contest.

0:44:530:44:56

"Hello, Sunderland South, can you hear me?"

0:44:560:44:59

"Hello, Huw! Yes, you're doing a brilliant job.

0:45:020:45:05

"It's been a great show this evening."

0:45:050:45:07

Methods will vary from comedian to comedian

0:45:070:45:09

and actually the best method

0:45:090:45:11

is the one that...that grows organically out of your own personality, in a way.

0:45:110:45:15

Liberal Democrats, eight points. Liberal Democrats, eight points.

0:45:150:45:19

Les Democrats Liberales, huit points.

0:45:190:45:22

I put the students on stage in front of an audience a lot.

0:45:220:45:26

They perform for the first time ten days into the module.

0:45:260:45:29

They start and ten days later they're in front of an audience of 200 people.

0:45:290:45:33

I like the pause gag in the, you know...

0:45:330:45:35

Cos they always do that and, you know, if you were building a longer piece

0:45:350:45:40

you could certainly play on that and, in fact,

0:45:400:45:44

it's the sort of thing where you could pause for a bit,

0:45:440:45:46

then go, "They always pause like that, don't they?"

0:45:460:45:49

There's three basic strands of comic theory, OK.

0:45:490:45:52

There's theory that emphasises aggression and superiority.

0:45:520:45:57

You know, you laugh AT somebody.

0:45:570:45:59

I was filling in a form for a friend the other day and I said, "What's your postcode?"

0:45:590:46:03

She said, "Charlie Tango Two, Seven November Hotel."

0:46:030:46:07

I said, "What?!"

0:46:070:46:08

She went, "Can you just repeat it back to me

0:46:080:46:11

"so I know you've got it down right?"

0:46:110:46:13

"Cock Twat Two, Seven Knob Head." Get out.

0:46:130:46:17

There's a comedy which is about incongruity -

0:46:170:46:20

that's another theoretical strand.

0:46:200:46:22

It's about absurdity, the unexpected.

0:46:220:46:25

I think the human body is a missed opportunity, I think.

0:46:250:46:29

For example, two holes that do pretty much the same thing.

0:46:290:46:32

I think one of them

0:46:320:46:34

smells traditional things like breakfast in the morning,

0:46:340:46:37

coffee, kippers, farts...

0:46:370:46:39

That kinda thing, like noses usually smell.

0:46:390:46:43

The other side could smell emotions.

0:46:430:46:46

And then the third one is release of tension.

0:46:460:46:49

The classic theorist would be Freud

0:46:520:46:54

and Freud argued that there are two kinds of jokes.

0:46:540:46:56

Innocent jokes which are just playful and fun

0:46:560:46:59

and then tendentious jokes which have a deeper kind of psychological purpose.

0:46:590:47:04

You don't have to buy that hook, line and sinker

0:47:040:47:08

to realise that a difficult or edgy subject

0:47:080:47:11

is going to create a certain tension in the audience.

0:47:110:47:15

And having created that tension, if your punchline is funny,

0:47:150:47:20

the laugh is bigger.

0:47:200:47:22

I went to Blackpool. I was looking for rooms and an old lady came to the door,

0:47:220:47:26

a nice lady, a little bit some more, not quite so much and then perhaps.

0:47:260:47:30

And that's all I want - just a little encouragement.

0:47:300:47:33

If you go back 60 or 70 years and listen to recordings

0:47:330:47:37

of Max Miller, he has to find how explicit his innuendo can go

0:47:370:47:42

before it's too explicit,

0:47:420:47:44

and his skill was being able to walk that tightrope.

0:47:440:47:50

Shall I start it off? Shall I start it off?

0:47:520:47:55

-I'll start it off and you'll creep in, won't you?

-I'll creep in.

0:47:550:47:59

# I started courting a smashing fan dancer

0:47:590:48:03

# To marry her, that was my plan

0:48:030:48:06

# Now it's all off with the smashing fan dancer

0:48:070:48:11

# She fell down and damaged her fan... #

0:48:110:48:13

Here!

0:48:130:48:14

LAUGHTER

0:48:140:48:16

When he talked about the fan dancer who fell down and damaged her fan,

0:48:210:48:25

there's 19 seconds of outraged laughter!

0:48:250:48:29

You can tell there was some serious tension being released there.

0:48:300:48:35

And normally the response to that is, "I think I've found your level."

0:48:350:48:39

Thanks very much!

0:48:410:48:42

Can I make you my sort of moral guide for tonight?

0:48:470:48:50

You don't have to do anything.

0:48:500:48:51

If there's a joke I'm worried about, I can... Is that OK?

0:48:510:48:54

Thanks. That'll be good.

0:48:540:48:56

Let me start with this one.

0:48:560:48:59

I've often wondered, Jean, right,

0:49:000:49:03

if when a new paedophile comes to town, right...

0:49:030:49:06

Bear with me, right.

0:49:070:49:10

Does he seek out one of the older, more experienced local paedophiles, you know?

0:49:100:49:15

And say, "Where's the best places round here to pick up kids?"

0:49:150:49:19

And does the old paedophile say, "Well...

0:49:190:49:23

"..swings and roundabouts, really."

0:49:240:49:26

Have I gone under the wire with that one, do you think?

0:49:310:49:35

Jean's not sure.

0:49:350:49:37

I think I've got away with it, just slightly.

0:49:370:49:40

'I did a gig on the night of Princess Diana's funeral.'

0:49:400:49:43

The manager said, "Do you want to start with a minute's silence?"

0:49:430:49:46

I said, "No, I'll integrate my own silences through the act like I always do."

0:49:460:49:51

But I went on and, you know, I said stuff like,

0:49:510:49:53

"Elton John... I watched the funeral today.

0:49:530:49:56

"Elton John, you know, he should have done I'm Still Standing.

0:49:560:50:00

"I just sold the flower shop. I'm really upset about that.

0:50:000:50:03

"I put all my money in landmines."

0:50:030:50:05

It was all that kind of... You know? And they seemed...

0:50:050:50:08

There seemed to be a great sense of release in the audience.

0:50:080:50:12

"Maybe it's OK to laugh about... He's not joking about her death."

0:50:120:50:16

The most common question after a show is, "What's the most offensive joke?"

0:50:160:50:20

Now, I don't think I can tell you the most offensive joke.

0:50:200:50:23

I think offence is taken, not given. That is how it tends to work. Different people take offence

0:50:230:50:28

at different things. So I can't tell you what the most offensive joke is.

0:50:280:50:32

But we could see.

0:50:320:50:33

I would never do jokes about Jesus Christ

0:50:340:50:37

but I think doing jokes about Christians is fine.

0:50:370:50:40

You can do jokes about Jews

0:50:400:50:43

but to have a go at maybe the Torah

0:50:430:50:45

or things that Jews really feel they hold sacred,

0:50:450:50:48

I think you're just causing offence.

0:50:480:50:50

I've got a friend that recently had an abortion.

0:50:500:50:53

But on the positive side...

0:50:530:50:55

slimmer of the month!

0:50:550:50:57

LAUGHTER

0:50:570:50:59

Well, that got a few of you.

0:51:000:51:03

You can do a very, very funny, humane...

0:51:030:51:05

or taboo-breaking, in an interesting way, joke about cancer,

0:51:050:51:09

or you can do a really kind of brutal, unfunny, mean one.

0:51:090:51:13

It's not the subject - it's the joke.

0:51:130:51:15

If men fall asleep directly after sex,

0:51:150:51:18

why is it so difficult to catch a rapist?

0:51:180:51:21

LAUGHTER

0:51:210:51:22

There are very few subjects that you could say,

0:51:220:51:25

"That is absolutely not a subject for comedy.

0:51:250:51:28

"You absolutely cannot talk about that."

0:51:280:51:30

Because if it's treated intelligently

0:51:300:51:33

and met with intelligence in its audience, it can ve...

0:51:330:51:36

You know, you can find ways of discussing almost anything.

0:51:360:51:40

No-one offended. Right, let's bring out the big guns. Hitler and Pol Pot.

0:51:400:51:46

Let's try and see the good in the bad. Both Hitler and Pol Pot

0:51:460:51:49

managed to conduct an awful lot of medical research

0:51:490:51:52

without hurting any animals.

0:51:520:51:54

LAUGHTER AND GROANING

0:51:540:51:56

I put it to you, if you're not even a little bit offended,

0:51:580:52:01

you haven't really understood that.

0:52:010:52:03

When people complain about comedians being rude or offensive,

0:52:050:52:08

to me they missed the point entirely. That's the function.

0:52:080:52:12

The function of a comedian is to reinvigorate us with rudery.

0:52:120:52:16

I am the only person who could be called an intellectual who would go to Chubby Brown

0:52:160:52:21

and find him funny. Of this I am not ashamed.

0:52:210:52:23

COMPERE: The outrageous Roy "Chubby" Brown!

0:52:230:52:28

WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE

0:52:280:52:29

Hello! Are you all right in the shitty seats?

0:52:290:52:34

Wankers!

0:52:340:52:35

Is that the wife?

0:52:370:52:38

Girlfriend?

0:52:390:52:41

Have you fucked her?

0:52:410:52:43

No?

0:52:440:52:45

We have.

0:52:450:52:46

There's some lovely women in this room tonight

0:52:470:52:50

but I'm not a ladies' man - I only have a four-inch cock.

0:52:500:52:53

And some girls don't like it that thick, do they?

0:52:530:52:57

The foulest, filthiest stuff you'd ever heard, and people adored it.

0:52:570:53:02

It was... It was disgusting about women,

0:53:020:53:04

and who were the people who loved it most? Women.

0:53:040:53:07

But it finished when she came out of the pier, it was over.

0:53:070:53:10

We licensed it to happen there, and then stop.

0:53:100:53:13

You should always marry an ugly woman, oh, yeah.

0:53:130:53:15

Cos if you marry a bonny girl and she leaves you,

0:53:150:53:18

you're heartbroken, right?

0:53:180:53:19

You marry an ugly girl and she leaves you, who gives a fuck?

0:53:190:53:24

Comedy is there to say, "This is the world, this is who we are.

0:53:240:53:27

"We are beasts. Rejoice in the fact that we are beasts."

0:53:270:53:31

What function...? What, in the end, what function do we have?

0:53:310:53:34

We copulate, we propagate - that's it.

0:53:340:53:37

COMPERE: Bernard Manning!

0:53:370:53:39

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:53:390:53:42

I used to go and watch Bernard Manning in Manchester, in his club.

0:53:420:53:46

You were a fool to have gone in there

0:53:460:53:48

if you knew you would be offended.

0:53:480:53:49

You went there in order to be offended.

0:53:490:53:51

A fella said, "I feel under the weather, Doctor."

0:53:510:53:54

He said, "I'll give you an examination." He said, "You've got VD."

0:53:540:53:57

He said, "Must have come off a lavatory seat." He said, "You must have chewed it - it's in your gums."

0:53:570:54:02

Bernard Manning was a pure joke teller,

0:54:020:54:05

and he told jokes as well as anybody has ever told jokes,

0:54:050:54:09

but he would get massive cheers from his audience

0:54:090:54:12

every time he said anything hateful or racist,

0:54:120:54:15

and it's uncomfortable, because you kind of go, "Why?

0:54:150:54:18

"Why would you need to do that?"

0:54:180:54:20

Bloke says to his mate, "I'm going bleedin' mad here with pains.

0:54:200:54:24

"I've got them piles," he said. "Oh," he said, "it's fucking awful."

0:54:240:54:28

-Went to the hospital Monday morning, there.

-KNOCKING

0:54:280:54:31

-ASIAN ACCENT:

-"Come in. Come in, please."

0:54:310:54:33

LAUGHTER

0:54:330:54:34

"What can I do for you, please, sir?"

0:54:340:54:36

He said, "You can shift these piles if you can. I'm going through bleedin' agony."

0:54:360:54:40

"Oh," he said, "piles are very, very painful. Very painful indeed.

0:54:400:54:44

"Will you come right in, sir? Come in, please.

0:54:440:54:47

"Take your trousers off. Bend right over, please.

0:54:470:54:50

"Oh, dear," he said, "would you pull your bollocks up?

0:54:500:54:53

"There's no light getting through here."

0:54:530:54:56

"Oh, dear, dear, dear, dear.

0:54:570:54:59

"Well," he says,

0:54:590:55:01

"I can't do nothing for your piles,

0:55:010:55:03

-"but you're going on a long journey."

-LAUGHTER

0:55:030:55:07

You've only got to talk about political correctness,

0:55:070:55:09

to my audience, and they think it's hysterical.

0:55:090:55:12

Have you seen when the black people turn up

0:55:120:55:14

and win all the fucking medals?

0:55:140:55:16

The 100 yards, there's always nine black people

0:55:160:55:19

and a fucking Russian.

0:55:190:55:21

What is the point of that fucking Russian?

0:55:210:55:23

There's no point, is there? "Take your marks...."

0:55:230:55:26

Gone.

0:55:260:55:27

The Russian -

0:55:270:55:28

-RUSSIAN ACCENT:

-"Check the meerkat.com..."

0:55:280:55:31

LAUGHTER

0:55:310:55:32

Yeah.

0:55:320:55:34

-You haven't really changed, have you?

-Of course I have.

0:55:340:55:38

-I don't do jokes anymore and I have changed.

-But...

0:55:380:55:41

But you're saying that, Alan, but you haven't seen me.

0:55:410:55:43

-It's true I haven't seen you, but when...

-That's all my life, people say that -

0:55:430:55:47

-"Oh, you're that bloke who does..."

-No, but I don't say that. What I say is I'm just...

0:55:470:55:51

I'm saying, are you true to who you are? Rather than trying to accommodate...

0:55:510:55:56

Yeah, I am true to who I am now.

0:55:560:55:58

People look at me as if I am that fossil that was from the '70s

0:55:580:56:01

and should have stayed there.

0:56:010:56:04

But I have a job to do and there's still millions and millions of people

0:56:040:56:08

that want to see comedians of a certain age.

0:56:080:56:11

So, Jim Davidson or Ben Elton? Where do you stand?

0:56:110:56:16

Jim Davidson any time. Jim Davidson any time,

0:56:160:56:18

and that doesn't mean I have to like Jim Davidson particularly.

0:56:180:56:22

Ben Elton was like the end of comedy for a period.

0:56:220:56:24

Ben Elton tried to make comedy out of what wasn't funny.

0:56:240:56:27

He thought you could clean up comedy.

0:56:270:56:29

There's no point in cleaning up comedy - that's not what it's for.

0:56:290:56:33

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:56:330:56:36

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen!

0:56:430:56:47

And welcome to this, the first of our new series,

0:56:470:56:49

which is now called FRIDAY Night Live.

0:56:490:56:51

The title has changed but very little else has.

0:56:510:56:54

Little else has changed in the world. We have the same Government, although we had an election,

0:56:540:56:58

Mrs Thatcher stormed parliament for a third time. Careful -

0:56:580:57:01

if she wins it again, they'll have to let her keep it.

0:57:010:57:04

I was about 12 and Ben Elton came on the scene,

0:57:040:57:09

and I can't even explain... I almost get teary thinking about it.

0:57:090:57:14

I just felt like I had found my yellow brick road.

0:57:140:57:19

You know, he was the Wizard of Oz.

0:57:190:57:21

I have to be honest with you.

0:57:210:57:23

I nearly didn't make it to the show tonight.

0:57:230:57:26

I nearly did not get here. I almost got flummoxed at the very start of leaving my home, you see.

0:57:260:57:31

I leave my house... Oh yeah, by the way, I've got a house. Yeah, I own a house.

0:57:310:57:35

"Oh, my God! The hypocrisy of it," screams a certain newspaper.

0:57:350:57:39

"Interested in a welfare state and he's got somewhere to sleep?

0:57:390:57:42

"Hypocrite - he ought to sleep in a cardboard box.

0:57:420:57:45

"If he supports the National Health Service, why doesn't he cut his head off and kill himself, then?"

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I was obsessive about Ben Elton, and he was political,

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and what he said made sense to me.

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All the stuff that people were saying about Thatcher, all the anger -

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suddenly it was in funny form, and I could relate to it and I got it.

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It was exciting and exhilarating at the beginning, because he was saying about Thatcher

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what other people were not.

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It died away when he would stand on the stage and you'd think,

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"Hang on - this is a speech to a trade union.

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"This is no longer funny." The unforgivable thing, I think,

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for a comedian, is that he steps out of comedy and enters,

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you know, the sphere of current affairs or politics.

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It's not just that it's not funny anymore -

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it's just that he's forgotten that he's involved in a...

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He has a dramatic function.

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I found myself in The Comedy Store in London,

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doing a topical comedy show called The Cutting Edge,

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and lo and behold, two rows from the front, bang in the middle,

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was none other than BBC comedy legend

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Jim Davidson.

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It's rather off-putting, to be honest with you,

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having his smiling, red, alcoholic face sat there.

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But he listened to the show and he laughed,

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and then he came to chat to me at the bar afterwards.

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And I really have nothing in common with Jim Davidson.

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I mean, I'm Asian, he's a supposed racist.

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I'm gay, he's a supposed homophobe.

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-But you liked him when you were there.

-Not particularly.

-He thought you did.

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Well, they were all right, but it's like watching kids

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playing at it, innit? "Hello, I'm Indian. I'm gay." You know?

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Real obvious, awful, homophobic jokes.

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I know, but then you were very, very rude about him, weren't you?

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What? I only repeated what he said.

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He called himself "the Indian poof" so that's what I referred to,

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in speech marks. I spoke to "the Indian poof".

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He called me an Indian poof.

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Indian poof?

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How politically incorrect is that?

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I'm a British-Asian poof, and it's not the same thing.

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And he also called me a jealous socialist cunt.

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When that guy walked on stage and said something about...

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This is the guy before the Indian "poof".

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Someone mentioned Jade Goody,

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and he said, "I'm glad she's dead - she's a fucking racist." OK?

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And then decided to take the piss out of a girl from Sweden,

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and did all anti-Swedish material about porn and sucking dicks

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and things like that that, you know, Swedish people in porn films do.

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Now, talk about hypocrisy of those three unfunny...stuck-up...

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Oh, they make me so angry.

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I've had moments in the past where people have come up to me

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and said, "I didn't like what you said with that."

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And I always think it's a bit weaselly to go,

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"Well, it's just a joke."

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Intent is everything.

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It's absolutely everything, and I'm sure you've had friends

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who are gay, Jewish, black,

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whatever separates them from everybody else.

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I have friends of all of those types and I'm merciless with them.

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And they are with me.

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But then someone else'll step in and say something,

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-and the room'll go cold. You go...

-SUCKS IN BREATH

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"I don't like that." And sometimes it's extremely difficult

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to tell where they differed from what you said.

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But it's the intent,

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and you have a built-in ear for the ring of truth,

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and a comedian must have it,

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or he becomes just another fascist, or just another racist,

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just another sexist. You have to tread very lightly, you know?

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Well, I tend to crash through it

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like a man crashing through the long grass,

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because that's where all the fun lies.

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Marker.

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In our childhood we have all these dysfunctions

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and they kind of...meld together and they form a formula -

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an individual formula drives us to be whatever it is...we're driven to be.

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For comedians it's definitely, like, any kind of humiliation.

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You know? I know for me...

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I was raped by a doctor,

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which is, erm...

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..you know, so bittersweet for a Jewish girl.

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LAUGHTER AND SOME APPLAUSE

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I think audiences should be offended or pushed and pulled.

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I think that's a job of a comic - to make them rethink things.

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I mean, if you're not offended by the end of a comedy show, you didn't get your money's worth.

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I always think, like, I should get on and if I want to have kids I just...

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You know, once you hit 30, you know, you've got to decide fast,

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cos it can be difficult to conceive, it can be dangerous.

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I mean, the best time to have a baby is when you're a black teenager. But...

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There's a lot of racism and sexism and homophobia

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that's wrapped up in irony,

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and it's sort of like, really, if you take the irony away,

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those jokes could be done by racists, sexists and homophobes,

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-and the irony... Irony's a very thin material.

-HE LAUGHS

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And it rips and tears very easily, so I feel like

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the comics who are trading in irony have to have responsibility.

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Some responsibility around the fact that I don't know

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that everybody's receiving this ironically.

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Are there any black people here tonight? Smile - I can't see you. Anybody?

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Are there any radical Muslim fundamentalists in tonight?

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If there are, raise both hooks and then back to your cell.

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I like that they're not sure what's going to happen next.

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I never want an audience to be able to predict

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what they're going to feel watching me.

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I want them on the edge of their seat, no matter the subject matter. That way they listen.

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I'm part Jew and I love the Jews. I love that in this country you can say "Jew."

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What a relief. Nobody minds, right?

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In America, "That's racist - you're going to burn." You won't burn for saying "Jew."

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You only burn in hell if you ARE a Jew, right?

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Read the fucking Koran.

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Comedy is meant to be confrontational. That's the whole point.

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Why do paedophiles always have beards and glasses?

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What is it about that look

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that children find so sexy?

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LAUGHTER

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I liked that tour that Prince Charles took Camilla on in India,

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last year. Proper rural India as well.

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You know that half the people that turned up were going,

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"Diana's really let herself go."

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Does anyone else think that Camilla is almost exactly

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what Diana would have looked like if she'd survived the crash?

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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I can find things very funny and offensive in equal measure.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with being, "Ha-ha-ha!

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"Don't say that ever again."

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I think... I feel like, as a comic,

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trading in jokes, there's a lot of times where I find comics

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who I think their jokes are really well written and crafted, but I don't think they're...

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I think their jokes are doing bad things, or not helping people, you know?

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But every comic is not in this for the same reason.

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See, if there's a riot in Delhi,

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how do you know?

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Millions of people in the streets, stuff burning, screaming...

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Could be a riot, could be a wedding.

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The result is the same -

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800 dead.

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I don't think that you realise that the joke you're making,

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even though it's covered in irony, can be received by people

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in ways that they don't perceive the irony -

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they just support the point.

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Like, I don't want to be labelled as straight, or labelled as gay.

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I just want people to look at me and see ME,

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you know, as white. And...

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I don't care if you think I'm racist. I just want you to think I'm thin.

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American is the mother tongue of stand-up comedy.

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When they killed Bin Laden,

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he had three wives, 23 children.

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Do you know who called the SEALs?

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He did.

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I know comedians, they've got a 13-word joke

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and they will struggle to cut it down to eight words.

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I'm here!

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I feel I should come out and go,

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