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This programme contains very strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm gagging to get on. I'm like a greyhound in a trap. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
It actually is like being able to fly. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Stand-up is such an opportunity to tell the truth. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You can say whatever you want. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
You're selling your ideas and your thoughts. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
They want a human connection with you. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Stand-up comedy is such a powerful medium, because you feel, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
if it's done properly, you're laughing and you're evolving. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
As an art form, it is the only art form | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
where you can immediately feel the responses of it. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
You just say what you feel, you connect and bring the audience in. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
A kind of wave comes, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
and when it gets to a certain point I step onto it like a surfer. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
As soon as you get one taste of it, I was ready to give up everything. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
That is a magic feeling. You can do whatever you want with all this. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Then you've got to come off. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Then what? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
You want to be back on stage again. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Someone referred to it as the joke coke. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
It's a good description, because it can be addictive. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Like sometimes when you come off stage after an amazing gig, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
you're just like, "Let's do that again, I want to go back on." | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
ANTICIPATORY CLAPPING | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
CLAPPING SPEEDS UP | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Don't take this personally. Born in Chelsea, Holland Park school... | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-I've never been so offended in my life. -..Ulster University. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
-Aren't you a bit of a fraud, really? -Yes. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
(IN ACCENT) I talk like this for some reason because I thought it was funny. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
I thought the concept of an energetic | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
but slightly unfocused Middle Eastern accent | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
was something that would get me started off quite well. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-Most of the time, you've got that look on your face. -A lot of the time, yeah. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
I feel I'm smiling. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
People don't say, "Cheer up, it might never happen," | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
but that happened all through my life. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
I was just given this face that doesn't smile very much. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
My school was Haberdashers' Aske's School in Elstree, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-a minor public school. -Such an underprivileged background. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
There we go. Although, of course, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Haberdashers' is a strange locus of comedy, because I went there, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Sacha Baron Cohen went there, Matt Lucas went there | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
and that is to do, obviously, with young, slightly cocky, Jews. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
It's very rare to have a very good-looking stand-up, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
because they can already be in the centre. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
You just wonder what the need was, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
because you've already got that. We're already looking at you. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
It's a brilliant thing. It's just this bit before. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
It's the uncertainty of not knowing the audience | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
but as soon as I'm on there tonight I'll be fine. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
It's my fault for running around like an idiot. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
If I was deadpan, this wouldn't happen. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
And this is where I start pacing, running through each bit of my set. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
I go on with the stopwatch with my bottle of water. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
As I go on, hit that, put it down with my water. No-one notices. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Then every time I have to drink my water, which is loads because I sweat all the way through, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
I can have a sneaky check of the time and no-one knows. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Did you have this need to perform from very early on in your life? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
Yeah, I did, yeah, and subsequently found out | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
when I was in the drinks clinic | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
trying to rid myself of certain things, they said | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
"That's why you were a comedian. You were a born alcoholic. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
"You wanted to be centre of attention, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
"and your job is the easiest way of getting it." | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-My dad, I think, having been a pop singer... -Was he? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Aspired... I think he saw showbiz as it is - | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
the great escape for the working classes. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
So, yeah, his advice to me was not | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
"get a trade" and all the things that my other mates' dads were saying, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
it was "get on the bandwagon". | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
How are we doing sound check-wise? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
The individual jokes are easy to remember. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
the problem with it is remembering the order, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
you know, 250 jokes in an hour and a half. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Stand-up comedy is maybe a personality disorder that you can do for a living. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
I don't think that's a bad description of it. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
There is an element of self-analysis involved, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
of poring over your own life, which might not be too healthy. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
You can have really bad things happen in your life, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
and all you're thinking is, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
"Well, this could be the end of an Edinburgh show." | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It's time. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
OK, two minutes. Thanks. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Right, we're going to go on stage now. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Are we doing it? It's happening, it's happening, it's happening. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
See you in a little while. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
How are we doing? Are we well? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
You know from the first joke roughly how it's going to go. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Hello, good to have you here. I know, it's mortifying, isn't it, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
cos everyone can see you. Sorry we had to start the show "on time". | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Smiling is no good to a comedian. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
It's about volume. I must get my volume. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-What do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking? -I'm a nurse. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
You're a nurse. Fantastic. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
In the old days, they used to get applause, but not any more. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Now everyone around here is thinking "Ooh, MRSA." | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
I'll go on and talk about where I've been, what I've been doing, what's going on, what I've noticed. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Ow! | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
And then go on about how difficult I find life with women. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
I went and got myself married a while ago again, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
because odd numbers are good for me. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
And she's a nice girl, with a flat head to put your pint. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I think OK, we've got the joke, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
and then I do it literally in front of the mirror. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
And I will keep doing it until it will make me laugh | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
and then I go, "Ha! That's it." | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
"You're being racist!" "About who?" "Those white people over there!" | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
"Which one in particular?" | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
"I don't know, they all look the same to me." | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Why I always wear suits on stage is, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I like the nothingness of it to be taken seriously. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Are you not sick and tired | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
of hearing about Harry "fuckface" Potter? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
It's a huge feeling of kind of sharing with the audience | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
your view of the world and the reward from that is they get you. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
Whereas acting is all about character, I think for me, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
stand-up is about attitude, and that informs everything you do onstage. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
The weirdest thing about being a comedian is, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
when you walk out into that light, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
'you're saying that you're the funniest man in the room.' | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
It's me. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
The first line or two are very, very important, you know. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Just to get it that little bit off the floor. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
I feel particularly splendy today. I do. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
No, today, ladies and gentlemen, I finished my first novel. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
It's taken me a long time to read a book, but there you go. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
'I've always tried very hard to be as funny as ordinary people are,' | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
just ordinary guys, the way welders used to do it in the Clyde, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
just make you laugh round the fire | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
when you were toasting your sandwiches. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
There were a lot of funny guys, you know, not telling jokes, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
just having a go at the foreman, the conditions, whatever it was. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
I always thought, "God, I want to be as funny as that, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
"how do you get as funny as that?" | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
I was a phenomenally late starter for a comedian. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
I did my first gig when I was 30. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
When you lived in the West Midlands in the 1970s, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
showbiz seemed like a long way away | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
and so it didn't really seem like an option | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
to do anything of that nature. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
So I was happy being a sort of stand-up comedian at school | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
or in the factory or in the pub. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
It was very much humour is a saving grace, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
that was the message I got, growing up. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
So, whenever I felt marginalised at school or even | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
when I was an adolescent growing up and everyone was copping off | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
at parties and they had girlfriends and no-one was interested in me, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
there was some culture week going on | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
and I did a sketch and the teacher said, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
"Let's put it on in front of the school." And I just remember | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
the laughs was like an avalanche of noise, I just remember thinking, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
"I quite like this!" | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
And it wasn't so much the feeling of the laughter, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
it was afterwards, having sixth-formers patting me on the head, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
saying, "That was really funny, mate, I didn't see that one coming." | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
We left around just before the revolution of '79. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
I would have been almost four, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
and I was six when the revolution happened. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
What my mum and my dad did then to shield us children | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
was to make light of it and to laugh about it - | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
my dad is a comedian and a writer, satirist. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
Everyone used to come up to me and go, "Oh, your dad's so funny, are you as funny as your dad?" | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
So, for myself and my brother, the sort of measure of being, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
you know, an acceptable human being was on how funny you could be. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
There was no comedy clubs at all then, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
just working man's clubs, stag shows, that was where an agent would phone you up - | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
"I want you to do three on Friday night, two on Thursday, four Wednesday, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
"write them all down." You'd do three a night and get fifteen quid a time. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
You were doing old jokes that people tell you in the pub. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
The trick that I used to be quite good at was painting a sort of picture, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
using different accents and painting a picture in people's minds | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
and the fact I could do Irish accents and this cartoon West Indian accent, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
I stuck with what I knew and just picked the best jokes | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
that I'd heard and strung them together. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
My Auntie Margaret took me to the theatre. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
I was only eight or nine. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
We would go and see Liberace and people like that, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
but they would always have a comedian to end the first half. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
They didn't call them stand-up comedians, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
they called them front-of-cloth comedians | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
because you stood...they stood right on the edge of the stage with the curtain at the back - | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
their job was to keep you interested while they changed the scenery back there. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
I used to just wait and wait for these guys to come out. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
There was an English comedian called Bentley who did the Empire circuits, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:28 | |
the Glasgow Empire, and I just couldn't wait, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
I saw Max Wall, I saw all these wonderful guys. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
That's when I thought I would like to be a comedian. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
We're going to play the final game, called Junos and Jeffers. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
Have you ever played Junos and Jeffers? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
You know, where you stand and say, JUNO what happened to so-and-so? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
JEFFER see anything of so-and-so? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
As a kid, I loved, loved Groucho Marx. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
I love you, I love you anyhow. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
I don't think you'd love me if I were poor. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
I might, but I'd keep my mouth shut. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
I loved the idea of just being able to do those completely crisp, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
all lean meat, one-liners. No storytelling or anything, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
I'm not interested in those...you know, there's always a great storyteller. No, that bang! | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
I feel you are the most able statesman in all Fredonia. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Well, that covers a lot of ground. Say, you cover a lot of ground yourself. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
You better beat it. I hear they're gonna tear you down and put up an office building. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
You can leave a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
You haven't stopped talking since I came here. You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
For me it starts with Grouch Marx, really, which is... | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
suddenly you've got someone who's... you know, he's dressed in this | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
kind of slapstick way, but he's doing very, very modern comedy, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
a very modern persona, it's arch, it's knowing, it breaks the camera wall. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
Promise me you'll follow in the footsteps of my husband. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
How do you like that? I haven't been in the job five minutes and already she's making advances to me. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
Not that I care, but where is your husband? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Why, he's dead. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I'll bet he's just using that as an excuse. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-I was with him till the very end. -No wonder he passed away. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Bob Hope, a brilliant comedian. Bob Hope, absolutely brilliant. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
A lot of people tell me that when a big star comes to New York | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
they're besieged by autograph hounds, that's what they tell me. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Well, we have a GI audience, with all servicemen - | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
don't throw the camera on them, they may be AWOL - but I wanna tell you... | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
You need to have a sense of what works in front of a crowd. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
It's not just shouting, it's not just "Look at me, look at me." | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
but you get a good instinct for what a crowd is like, as an animal. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:52 | |
No, please... Who cued that, who cued that? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
I've often said that comedy is about jokes | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
rather than about character and plot and all that stuff. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Basically because I've written a couple of sit-coms | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
and I'm rubbish at character and plot, so I'm keen to push the stuff | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
I'm good at as being what comedy's all about! | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
An Irishman on a building site, eating a big piece of Gorgonzola. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
You won't get 45 minutes each way and a band at half-time. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Come into a restaurant and he said, what's on the menu? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Don't mess about, they've been playing for money! | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
There's a great divide in comedy when you stop being able to just tell jokes, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
just learn all these and I'm going to go out and go, "Murphy and Casey walked into a bar..." | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
You look at old tapes of Dave Allen and they're jokes, they are JOKES jokes. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
And then, the basis became more and more personal as they came along. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
A lot of people ask me, why do I drink during the show? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
And is it because I need the drink to get through the show? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
I can tell you now, the reason I drink | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
is it does, sitting here, get very hot. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
A tremendous amount of lights, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
and the only reason I have the drink is basically to keep cool. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
I want to make it quite clear that I am not reliant on alcohol | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
to get me through... GET AWAY FROM THAT! | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
How do you think I get through the show? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Dave Allen could tell a story, and within that story he would use | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
the framework of that story to then digress into various observations. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
It's really nice to watch that sort of relaxed, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
you know, drink there and fag on the go, here's what I think about shit. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:44 | |
A very important part of the Irish way of life is death. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
If anyone else, anywhere in the world dies, that's kind of it. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
But in Ireland, when someone dies, we lay them out and watch them for a couple of days. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
There is a sense that Irish comics tend to be predominately storytellers, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
long-form storytellers. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
We tend to pick a topic and run with it for a while. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
And the terrible thing about dying over there is you miss your own wake. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
The best day of your life. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
You've paid for everything and you can't join in. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
You build up something that's long and feels organic, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
and feels like one train of thought. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
"Mary, are you there, darling, are you there?" | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
And she goes, "I'm here, love, I'm here beside you." | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
"I'm going, I'm going." | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
She says, "I know... Don't hang about, now." | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
It's like putting a stone in running water, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
and the water takes the edges off it and smooths it out. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
"Mary, before I go, I'm gonna ask you the question, tell me now, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:58 | |
"that skinny little runt standing at the end of the bed, is he really my son?" | 0:17:58 | 0:18:04 | |
She says, "He is. Honest to God, he is your son." | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
And he goes... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
And she goes, "Thank God he didn't ask about the other three." | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
One of the things a stand-up wants to create is a coherent stance. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
When you're writing, you want it to appear that this is definitely you, it's your personality. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
The test is often, with the comic, when they're knocked off the script. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
The script, they're just the bullets and you're the gun. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
You know, you have to be the funny thing. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
A lot of the time, you have to be the fall guy. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
You know, you have to be the weak link in the story. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
If it's about being bad at sex, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
you're the one who's being bad at it, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
you're not the guy observing somebody being bad at it, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and the story mustn't be, "Oh, I was great, but she was awful." | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
The funniest stories are always about inadequacy. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
I think the insecurity's very important. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
I think, without it, there's no human being there. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I'm not really interested in seeing comedians who just come out, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
confident and loud in a shiny suit. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
I don't know where the human being is in that person, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
I don't know where their fear is, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
I want to know about their... I want to know who they are. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
In stand-up there should be no restrictions between what you're feeling, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
what you're saying to your friends, to yourself, and what you say to the audience. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
So, by going in front of the audience with only a few bullet points, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
you end up just having to say these things - | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
you're desperate for something to connect with someone. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
The truth is usually what connects them, usually what's funny. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
What you've come for tonight is not a honed, good, funny show. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
Don't have that expectation. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
You're here for me to try out stuff for people in the future who have paid more. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
Right, let's begin. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
I shouldn't be asking them to write the jokes for me, but... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
I've got an awkward relationship with my father. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
My dad says, "Let's have a chat." Can't just talk to me. "Let's have a chat." | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
It has to be this formalised thing where I go over, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
sit down next to him... And here's how he begins our chat. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
"So...?" That's not a question, is it? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
"So..." | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I don't know what to do about that now. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
I'm going to give it... I'm going to say, "Tick, with better audience." | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Look, what have you paid? Six or seven pounds? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Yeah. Fuck you. Cos... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
I'm quite famous. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
My mum would say, "You should really give them what they want. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
"They'd love to hear your stories about show business, and they'd love to hear..." | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
It's not interesting. They might, and they might laugh for an hour. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
"Oh, my God, he's so funny, we're laughing, we're laughing." | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And afterwards, they'd go home and go, "He just sort of spoke about pop music." | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
Whereas, I think, what I do, they might not laugh as much... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
but they go home thinking, "Well, that was interesting!" | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
So, I was in Amsterdam, which is sort of a sexualised place anyway. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
But I was thinking about sex just about the whole time I was there, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
just about the whole three days I was there, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
apart from maybe 25 minutes in the Anne Frank museum. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
And I was there for an hour. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
"That's a nice cupboard." | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
I'm not so interested in saying, "Haven't we all got toasters? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
"Oh, yeah, we've all got toasters. Yeah, we like toast." It's not... | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
So? I can't bear the celebrations of the mundane. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
I'm more interested... I'm more interested in saying, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
you know, "The world seems mundane, the world seems rigid and stiff, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
"and here's what's really going on." | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
I've realised, whatever problem I have with another person... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
I've been alive long enough now to realise that those people are recurring characters - | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
different people, but just the same thing cropping up again and again. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
So I've made a list of the recurring characters in my life, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
because I'm odd. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
This one... This is the annoying... OK. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
"The beautiful humourless boy who I fancy a lot | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
"but who I'm also very angry with for being so beautiful | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
"and not laughing when I say clearly funny things." | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
I get quite angry in this section. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
It can't all be funny for seven pounds! | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Do you just want laughs or do you want more than laughs? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
-Much, much more. -HE LAUGHS | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Sometimes I'm annoyed they're laughing. I think, "Why are you laughing? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
"You should be asking me if I'm all right." | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I'm quite lonely. Let's start with that. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
Nothing can be done about it, people of Dublin. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Nothing can be done. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
I bought a new flat about two years ago. In this flat, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
in the bathroom, there are two sinks. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
I thought that would bring me some joy. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
It is a constant reminder. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
And so what I've had to do - this is what I'm doing now in my life, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
I'm actually doing this - I'm using both sinks. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I now every day brush my teeth in the left sink | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and in the right one mainly cry. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Do you ever worry that you're revealing too much of yourself when you do this? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
No, the opposite. I always think, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
"Have I really said the actual truth of this situation here? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
"Or did I just get a laugh with that?" And that's safe, to stay there. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
I always think there's somewhere deeper to go and somewhere more interesting. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
I really wanted to change myself a lot last year cos I felt I wasn't getting enough sex. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
And it's a fun thing to do, it's a shame not to have more of it. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
And the reason I wasn't achieving the getting of more sex | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
was because I would see someone at a party that I really liked, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
and I'd think, "Gosh, he seems just about perfect. Who knows what could happen? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
"I could end up spending the rest of my life with him." | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
And what I would do every time to woo him, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
to pursue him, to make him see that I was the one for him, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
is I would go home and hope that I saw him again. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
Because for me to go up to someone and say, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
"Hello, what's your name?"... Perfectly lovely question. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
"Hello, what's your name?" Nothing wrong with that question. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
It's a delightful curious question, but, to me, it would definitely come out like, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
(NERDY) "Hello, what's your name?" | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
When you go through your life | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
and the ups and downs and the traumas, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
do you ever think when you've had a particularly bad day, or a bad experience, do you think, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
"Oh, well, there's some material there at least?" | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
Almost too quickly. It's almost upsetting... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
how quick it can become material. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
I recently went through a break-up, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
and I'm already talking about it. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
And it's... I was talking about it three days after it happened. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Is that a consolation of any kind, do you think? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
It is eventually. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
But I'm kind of... | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
I'm annoyed that it is sometimes, because it means I'm not feeling things fully. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
And that's part of what's wrong with me. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
So while people talk about stand-up being therapy, it can be the opposite sometimes, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
because it stops you from fully immersing yourself in the pain, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
because you can fix it quickly, it's almost magic. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
And because you're outside observing it, very rapidly... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
Yeah, I'm outside all the time. I'm outside of it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
I'm not in there, feeling hurt, feeling angry, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
feeling upset. I'm looking at this idiot, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
who should be crying or is crying, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
and sort of making fun of him. And it's me! It's me. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
'One of the brightest comic talents' | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
to come from America in years, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
an offbeat comedian, successful screenwriter et cetera, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
and a very powerful sex symbol, signed...signed Woody Allen. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
And here he is, Mr Woody Allen. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
'I don't even know how I would exist as a performer at all | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
'if Woody Allen hadn't invented it.' | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
I don't know what the precedent is, other than him, for being an insecure, anxious person on a stage. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
I do not go to dentists. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I don't like doctors. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Well, let me start this at the very beginning, I like doctors | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
but I once had a pain in my chestal area | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
and I was convinced that it was heartburn, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
because I was married at the time | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
and my wife used to cook for me all the time with those Nazi recipes, you know. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
Chicken Himmler for dinner every night. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
And I didn't want to spend 25 dollars to go to the doctor | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
and have it reaffirmed that I had heartburn. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Cos it wasn't worth it. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
But a friend of mine at that time got a pain in the exact same spot | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
and I figured if I could get him to go to the doctor | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
I could figure out what's wrong with me. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
For me, a lot of stand-up is about creating a grotesque, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
if you like, of identifying what it is about you | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
that will make people laugh and then exploiting that, if you like. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Woody Allen's doing hysterically funny stand-up about.. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
conniving stories out of nothing, out of surrealism, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
out of being the nerdy Jewish guy who everyone starts to recognise. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
If the audience are convinced what you're saying is true, they'll laugh. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
If they get a sense that it's not true, they won't laugh. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
So I talk him into it and he goes. Cost him 25 dollars. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
He's got heartburn. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
And I feel fabulous because I beat the doctor out of 25 dollars. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
And I call my friend two days later and he died. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I check into the hospital immediately, I have tests run | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
and X-rays. It costs me 150 dollars. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
I had heartburn. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
I'm furious now. I run to my friend's mother, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:55 | |
and I say, "Did he suffer much?" | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
She says, "No, it was quick. A car hit him and that was it." | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
'The Jewish tradition wins, in stand-up comedy.' | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
Make a list of great American stand-ups and it's Jewish, Jewish, Jewish, Jewish. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
Being Jewish tends to not really be about religion. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
One is more likely to worship Woody Allen than God. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
And so it's really a cultural voice | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
that one is always either channelling or trying to find, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
and in America, through the way that those...from Groucho Marx through to Woody Allen - | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
they have defined comedy. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
This is a different type of show than you ever saw before. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
That's why everyone in the world is getting excited. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
This is a one-man show, which disturbs a lot of people. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
A lot of people say, "Who is one Jew to make such a comfortable living?" | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
All great things throughout history were accomplished by one person working alone. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
Michelangelo. The greatest painter, in my opinion, who ever lived was Michelangelo. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
Why? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:02 | |
Because he painted the whole Sistine Chapel all by himself. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
It took him 30 years, because the man was a schmuck. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
KLEZMER MUSIC | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
It was overwhelmingly hot in New York | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
and all the Jews went to the Catskills. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
That was like the French Riviera to the Jews on the Lower East Side. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
As soon as it became warm, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
the heat was unbearable in the summer. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
There was very few people had air conditioning. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Everybody was sweating. It was unbearable. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
So everybody knew the Catskill Mountains were the only place to go. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
That was it. That's where all the Jews were. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
By the time I was 18, I said to myself, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
"I could probably become a social director in the mountains." | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
I wasn't thinking of being a professional entertainer, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
but there was such a thing in the mountains - | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
almost every hotel, regardless of how small they were, even if they had 12 people, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
they hired a social director to entertain the people day and night in the hotel. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
I worked at a place called the Butler Lodge. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
Any and every comic that I can think of that came out of New York | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
probably did some gigs in the Borscht Belt. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
I remember I got up and I did my opening. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
What was your opening? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Good evening, ladies and Jews. Er... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
I met a beautiful girl last night, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
but she was skinny. I mean, this was a very thin girl. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
I took her to a restaurant - she was so thin | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
that the maitre d' said, "Check your umbrella, sir?" | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
And I... You know, that was my opening. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-And the minute I did it, I heard... -MIMICS MUTTERING | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
So I just cupped my ear and listened very closely. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
"Oh, English, English. Oy, English." | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
They were so unhappy and I had no idea. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
I had one or two Yiddish jokes - I forget what they were - | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
and I did them and they cheered | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
as if we had won World War Two or something, you know? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Just... They understood it. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
When you started to perform or tell jokes, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
did Jewish humour come out of that, or the humour that they shared? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
There's certain things that might be peculiarly Jewish about certain kinds of humour. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
The self-effacing humour, the comedy about being persecuted, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
rejected, an outcast, plays on words or thoughts, ideas, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
and very seldom doing the physical crazy comedy that the Gentiles do. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
When a Gentile walks into a restaurant, they're very nervous, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
they walk in like, "How do you do? May I sit down? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
"How long should I wait? Nine years, why not? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
"Nine years is OK." You ever see how a Jew walks into a restaurant? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Like a partner. "Hello! | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
"Let me see my table!" | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
All small groups - you know, the Irish, the Jews - | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
all small groups evolve a particular kind of comedy | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
out of their persecution. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
The Jews have done it particularly well, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
perhaps because they've been more universally persecuted than anybody else. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
And partly what you do is you get mastery over your... | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
You get mastery over your fate by making fun of yourself. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
And when you make fun of yours.... | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
I've often described it as a form of masochism. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
When a masochist knows that there's trouble coming, he organises it. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
No matter which table you show 'em - | 0:33:30 | 0:33:31 | |
"You call this a table for a man like me? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
"I don't sit so close to a wall, so far from a window. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
"My wife don't like to face this way, I don't like to face that way, we don't like to face this way." | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
You anticipate what's coming, you make a joke out of what's coming, you've won. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
You're in charge and you've won, as it were, intellectually. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I mean, Jews love that, particularly. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
It takes them three hours to pick out a table, then they start a whole new fight. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
"Why is it so draughty here?" | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
'Because there were so many Jews, I guess, in entertainment, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
'I grew up with British Jewish jokes.' | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
The Two Ronnies, the end of the world has happened, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
and the religions... | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
There's only the Jews and the Mormons left | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
and they're going to join together as a religion | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
and their headquarters is going to be in Salt Beef City. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
You know, that's a proper hardcore Jewish joke. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
A joke when it's well told is not confined. It's not confined to the group. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
That's mainly what you want it to do. Can you make it leap out, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
can you make it leap over the wall of your community into everybody? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
And the great ones can. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
Good evening, my people! | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
CHEERING | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
And you know, Omid is a very powerful name in Iran. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
You know, Omid means "hope". | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
It's just a shame that Djalili means "less". | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Does being an immigrant give you an advantage, do you think? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
I don't know if it gives me an advantage. If a lot of great comedy comes from pain, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
I think certainly I've had my fair share of pain as a child | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
and as an adolescent and the confusion I've had. I'd gone from being quite proud to be Iranian | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
to suddenly all the images coming out of Iran of people like slapping their heads | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
and there was a very strong violent feeling from Iran, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
Islamic fundamentalism, and it was a negative image, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
so starting off doing comedy | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
and talking about my Iranian culture seemed quite healing. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
Ayatollah Khomeini - he wrote a book about what you can do | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
and what you can't do in the Islamic Republic of Iran. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Iranians, back me up on this. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
Page one, page one says the sweat of a man - | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
that's the sweat of a man - | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
who has had sexual intercourse with a pig is impure. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
After sunset. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
That's the big one. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
A lot of Iranians would then say, "Why are you making fun of your culture?" | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
And there were so-called Iranian "intellectuals" who would say, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
"You should talk about our great 3,000-year civilisation, the Persian empire. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
"Why you making fun of our culture?" | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
And so I stopped using that particular cab firm. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
Someone said, "Oi, in the Middle East, have you got an institution like the Samaritans?" | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
I said, "What do you mean?" "If you're depressed, want to kill yourself, who do you call?" | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
I said, "Of course we've got the Samar... We don't call it the Samaritans. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
"In the Middle East, we call it a recruiting centre." | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
People call up saying, "I want to kill myself!" | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
"Very good. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
"Very good. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
"There's a bus leaving in ten minutes. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
"Could I have your waist size, please?" | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
That's so wrong, but so funny. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
I think just by talking about Iran in a comedic context | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
was quite a powerful thing. Because I think the British psyche is, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
if you make fun of yourself you must be all right, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
so if there's an Iranian representing Iranians and they can be ironic, they must be OK. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
'They all seem to operate en bloc. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
'They're either a good crowd or a bad crowd.' | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
Even, "Oh, they were a bit slow. They were a bit sl...." | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
These people have got varying educational abil... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
How can they all be a bit slow on the jokes? | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Often when you play in old theatres there's that hole in the curtain | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
that actors have put in there to have a look at what the crowd's like. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
And if you look out and there's six fat blokes in football shirts, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
you're thinking, "Oh, well, maybe I won't do my Bernard Levin material." | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
Is this taking you back, madam? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
'Do you ever get nervous?' | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Terrified. Still do. I mean, really terrified. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
I have to not drink the night before. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
You know, don't get drunk, for heaven's sake, don't have a hangover. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
"Why are you hitting your dog?" | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
"You won't believe it, Officer, he fucking ate my tax disc." | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
'Unless I've been doing the show ten or 12 times' | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
I'll be really, really nervous, you know. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
Dry mouth, dry sicks, shaking. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
So, anyway, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
what am I fucking talking about? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
'I get very anxious. I've even sought help about it.' | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
You know, I went to see some shrinks about it | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
and got pills and things for it. And it was getting out of control, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
because the biggest symptom is you just forget everything. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
Before I left New York to come here, I was.... MAN SHOUTS | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
CONNOLLY LAUGHS | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Fucking boom! He walked right into it. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
I know there was a time at the beginning, I was so... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
so shit scared of hecklers. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
MAN SHOUTS | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
What's that? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
SHOUTS AGAIN | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
You've got a cock in your mouth, sir, I suggest you take it out. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
Then we can hear what you're saying. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
But now I think it's important to... not be open to it in the sense that you encourage it, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
but if people shout things they want to communicate, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
it's because they want to say something to you and it's very good to just listen. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
I think as a comedian it's not about just getting... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
You've got two channels in your head. One is to do your material | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
and then the other one is to live in the moment, so if someone wants to say something, let them say it. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
What's the difference between heckling and a dialogue with your audience? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
-A dialogue? I don't want a dialogue. -You don't...? -I talk, they laugh. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
That's it. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
How do you deal with the hecklers? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
One of my chaps goes over and has a word in his ear. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-Sounds scary to me! -Well, it is scary, yeah, but you've gotta stop it. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
It's no good shouting with 'em. If that guy's heckling me, no-one else can hear what he's saying. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
I'll be wasting my time trying to think of a smart-arse answer to him. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
All that people will see is the top of my head. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
I tell all the young comics who speak to me, "Don't do hecklers." | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
I loathe hecklers. I haven't one good syllable to say about hecklers. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
When you've come out of the club circuit and all that | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
and you're in the concert hall and you're good at what you do, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
you're a storyteller, they should be gone. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
There's an element of manners should take over. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
Right, the ticket's dear, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
it's a different venue, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
people have had a bath to come here. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
Sit down, shut up and listen. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Hello! How are we doing? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-CROWD: Yeah! -That's a good start | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
if you can answer the basic questions. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
This is a wee try-out show for Stand Up For The Week, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
so if the jokes are funny on a boat, they're funny on the telly. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
I always like to have a look at the audience | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
to see whether there's people that might fit certain routines. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
If it's a small room and there's only five people there | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
and their faces are right in front of you, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
that's when it's the most terrifying, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
because as soon as something doesn't work, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
you know about it instantly | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
cos you've got five people staring at you in silence and that is... | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
I find that terrifying. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Give it up for Jack Whitehall! | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
Good evening, everyone! Are we well? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Yeah, thanks very much for coming out to see the show. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
As Kevin said earlier, there's football on, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
which is good, as a comic, cos I instantly get a gauge | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
of exactly who we've got in the audience. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
All the men who did art and drama at school | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
and then women that are thoroughly in control of their relationships. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
"I might stay in, watch the Champions League with the lads." | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
"No, you won't! You'll be coming with me to the boat | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
"cos I've got your dick in my fucking handbag." | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
You've just arrived, you know, out of your teens into this scenario. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
You've been sort of really... | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
-You gave up university. -Yeah. -History of art. You gave it about three minutes and then moved on. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:17 | |
I'd already started doing stand-up on stage and I'd got the bug. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Every lecture that I sat in, everything that I thought was like, "Why would I want to do this? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
"I've been on the stage, I've done stand-up. That is the most amazing thing, this is boring. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
What I like about Britain's Got Talent | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
is you see these little rural versions of it. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
The best one I've ever seen - Yeovil's Got Talent. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
Massive poster on a town hall. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
Last year's winner were a set of twins. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
I asked a woman in a pub what was their talent. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
"Spitting image of each other but they were a different person." | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
That's not strictly a talent, is it? | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
I'm completely out of my comfort zone when trying out new material. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
I'll be overtly aggressive in my delivery | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
and sort of oversell them and often swear a lot as well | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
without meaning to, and you sort of use all these things to veil | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
the fact that you're not confident in the joke yet. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Some of the shows I like are getting ruined. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Midsomer Murders - I fucking love Midsomer Murders. I can't watch it now, cos if I do I'm a racist. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
They say they need to get more black people in the village in Midsomer. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
Well, that's a tough gig, isn't it? Being the first black person there. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Every time there's a murder, getting hauled in for questioning. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
"Do you know why you're here?" "Because I'm black?" | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
"Yes. Do you have an alibi? Where were you when the murder happened?" | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
"I was being held in a cell for last episode's murder, which happened when I was on holiday." | 0:43:30 | 0:43:36 | |
If they don't laugh at something, you cut it and never do it again, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
so, you know, it's completely in their hands. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
They edit it for you, really. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
There's a lot of crosses or a maybe. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
When you first start, the most frustrating thing as an act | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
is when people say to you, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
"Oh, good. You had some very nice jokes but you haven't found your voice yet." | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
And it's so frustrating because you know that they're right | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
and you know that to find your voice is, you know, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
the most important thing as a comic, but also one of the hardest things. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
The task was to write something where you imagine the world as if it were different. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:32 | |
You could redesign the world in any way you chose and it can be anything. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
It can be silly, political. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
Excellent. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:39 | |
Let's hear it for Dave. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
I was watching the other day... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Recently, the local elections have happened and the Eurovision Song Contest has happened. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
And I felt it'd be much better if they did the election coverage | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
much more like the Eurovision Song Contest. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
"Hello, Sunderland South, can you hear me?" | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
"Hello, Huw! Yes, you're doing a brilliant job. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
"It's been a great show this evening." | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Methods will vary from comedian to comedian | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
and actually the best method | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
is the one that...that grows organically out of your own personality, in a way. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
Liberal Democrats, eight points. Liberal Democrats, eight points. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
Les Democrats Liberales, huit points. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
I put the students on stage in front of an audience a lot. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
They perform for the first time ten days into the module. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
They start and ten days later they're in front of an audience of 200 people. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
I like the pause gag in the, you know... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
Cos they always do that and, you know, if you were building a longer piece | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
you could certainly play on that and, in fact, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
it's the sort of thing where you could pause for a bit, | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
then go, "They always pause like that, don't they?" | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
There's three basic strands of comic theory, OK. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
There's theory that emphasises aggression and superiority. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:57 | |
You know, you laugh AT somebody. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
I was filling in a form for a friend the other day and I said, "What's your postcode?" | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
She said, "Charlie Tango Two, Seven November Hotel." | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
I said, "What?!" | 0:46:07 | 0:46:08 | |
She went, "Can you just repeat it back to me | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
"so I know you've got it down right?" | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
"Cock Twat Two, Seven Knob Head." Get out. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
There's a comedy which is about incongruity - | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
that's another theoretical strand. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
It's about absurdity, the unexpected. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
I think the human body is a missed opportunity, I think. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
For example, two holes that do pretty much the same thing. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
I think one of them | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
smells traditional things like breakfast in the morning, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
coffee, kippers, farts... | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
That kinda thing, like noses usually smell. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
The other side could smell emotions. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
And then the third one is release of tension. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
The classic theorist would be Freud | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
and Freud argued that there are two kinds of jokes. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Innocent jokes which are just playful and fun | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
and then tendentious jokes which have a deeper kind of psychological purpose. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
You don't have to buy that hook, line and sinker | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
to realise that a difficult or edgy subject | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
is going to create a certain tension in the audience. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
And having created that tension, if your punchline is funny, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
the laugh is bigger. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
I went to Blackpool. I was looking for rooms and an old lady came to the door, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
a nice lady, a little bit some more, not quite so much and then perhaps. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
And that's all I want - just a little encouragement. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
If you go back 60 or 70 years and listen to recordings | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
of Max Miller, he has to find how explicit his innuendo can go | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
before it's too explicit, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
and his skill was being able to walk that tightrope. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
Shall I start it off? Shall I start it off? | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
-I'll start it off and you'll creep in, won't you? -I'll creep in. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
# I started courting a smashing fan dancer | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
# To marry her, that was my plan | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
# Now it's all off with the smashing fan dancer | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
# She fell down and damaged her fan... # | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Here! | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
When he talked about the fan dancer who fell down and damaged her fan, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
there's 19 seconds of outraged laughter! | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
You can tell there was some serious tension being released there. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:35 | |
And normally the response to that is, "I think I've found your level." | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
Thanks very much! | 0:48:41 | 0:48:42 | |
Can I make you my sort of moral guide for tonight? | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
You don't have to do anything. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:51 | |
If there's a joke I'm worried about, I can... Is that OK? | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Thanks. That'll be good. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
Let me start with this one. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
I've often wondered, Jean, right, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
if when a new paedophile comes to town, right... | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
Bear with me, right. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
Does he seek out one of the older, more experienced local paedophiles, you know? | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
And say, "Where's the best places round here to pick up kids?" | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
And does the old paedophile say, "Well... | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
"..swings and roundabouts, really." | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
Have I gone under the wire with that one, do you think? | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
Jean's not sure. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
I think I've got away with it, just slightly. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
'I did a gig on the night of Princess Diana's funeral.' | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
The manager said, "Do you want to start with a minute's silence?" | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
I said, "No, I'll integrate my own silences through the act like I always do." | 0:49:46 | 0:49:51 | |
But I went on and, you know, I said stuff like, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
"Elton John... I watched the funeral today. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
"Elton John, you know, he should have done I'm Still Standing. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
"I just sold the flower shop. I'm really upset about that. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
"I put all my money in landmines." | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
It was all that kind of... You know? And they seemed... | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
There seemed to be a great sense of release in the audience. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
"Maybe it's OK to laugh about... He's not joking about her death." | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
The most common question after a show is, "What's the most offensive joke?" | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
Now, I don't think I can tell you the most offensive joke. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
I think offence is taken, not given. That is how it tends to work. Different people take offence | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
at different things. So I can't tell you what the most offensive joke is. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
But we could see. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:33 | |
I would never do jokes about Jesus Christ | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
but I think doing jokes about Christians is fine. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
You can do jokes about Jews | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
but to have a go at maybe the Torah | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
or things that Jews really feel they hold sacred, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
I think you're just causing offence. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
I've got a friend that recently had an abortion. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
But on the positive side... | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
slimmer of the month! | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
Well, that got a few of you. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
You can do a very, very funny, humane... | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
or taboo-breaking, in an interesting way, joke about cancer, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
or you can do a really kind of brutal, unfunny, mean one. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
It's not the subject - it's the joke. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
If men fall asleep directly after sex, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
why is it so difficult to catch a rapist? | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:51:21 | 0:51:22 | |
There are very few subjects that you could say, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
"That is absolutely not a subject for comedy. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
"You absolutely cannot talk about that." | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Because if it's treated intelligently | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
and met with intelligence in its audience, it can ve... | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
You know, you can find ways of discussing almost anything. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
No-one offended. Right, let's bring out the big guns. Hitler and Pol Pot. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:46 | |
Let's try and see the good in the bad. Both Hitler and Pol Pot | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
managed to conduct an awful lot of medical research | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
without hurting any animals. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
LAUGHTER AND GROANING | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
I put it to you, if you're not even a little bit offended, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
you haven't really understood that. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
When people complain about comedians being rude or offensive, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
to me they missed the point entirely. That's the function. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
The function of a comedian is to reinvigorate us with rudery. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
I am the only person who could be called an intellectual who would go to Chubby Brown | 0:52:16 | 0:52:21 | |
and find him funny. Of this I am not ashamed. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
COMPERE: The outrageous Roy "Chubby" Brown! | 0:52:23 | 0:52:28 | |
WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
Hello! Are you all right in the shitty seats? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
Wankers! | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
Is that the wife? | 0:52:37 | 0:52:38 | |
Girlfriend? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
Have you fucked her? | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
No? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:45 | |
We have. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:46 | |
There's some lovely women in this room tonight | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
but I'm not a ladies' man - I only have a four-inch cock. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
And some girls don't like it that thick, do they? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
The foulest, filthiest stuff you'd ever heard, and people adored it. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
It was... It was disgusting about women, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
and who were the people who loved it most? Women. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
But it finished when she came out of the pier, it was over. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
We licensed it to happen there, and then stop. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
You should always marry an ugly woman, oh, yeah. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Cos if you marry a bonny girl and she leaves you, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
you're heartbroken, right? | 0:53:18 | 0:53:19 | |
You marry an ugly girl and she leaves you, who gives a fuck? | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
Comedy is there to say, "This is the world, this is who we are. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
"We are beasts. Rejoice in the fact that we are beasts." | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
What function...? What, in the end, what function do we have? | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
We copulate, we propagate - that's it. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
COMPERE: Bernard Manning! | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
I used to go and watch Bernard Manning in Manchester, in his club. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
You were a fool to have gone in there | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
if you knew you would be offended. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:49 | |
You went there in order to be offended. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
A fella said, "I feel under the weather, Doctor." | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
He said, "I'll give you an examination." He said, "You've got VD." | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
He said, "Must have come off a lavatory seat." He said, "You must have chewed it - it's in your gums." | 0:53:57 | 0:54:02 | |
Bernard Manning was a pure joke teller, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
and he told jokes as well as anybody has ever told jokes, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
but he would get massive cheers from his audience | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
every time he said anything hateful or racist, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
and it's uncomfortable, because you kind of go, "Why? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
"Why would you need to do that?" | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
Bloke says to his mate, "I'm going bleedin' mad here with pains. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
"I've got them piles," he said. "Oh," he said, "it's fucking awful." | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
-Went to the hospital Monday morning, there. -KNOCKING | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
-ASIAN ACCENT: -"Come in. Come in, please." | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:54:33 | 0:54:34 | |
"What can I do for you, please, sir?" | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
He said, "You can shift these piles if you can. I'm going through bleedin' agony." | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
"Oh," he said, "piles are very, very painful. Very painful indeed. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
"Will you come right in, sir? Come in, please. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
"Take your trousers off. Bend right over, please. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
"Oh, dear," he said, "would you pull your bollocks up? | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
"There's no light getting through here." | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
"Oh, dear, dear, dear, dear. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
"Well," he says, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
"I can't do nothing for your piles, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
-"but you're going on a long journey." -LAUGHTER | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
You've only got to talk about political correctness, | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
to my audience, and they think it's hysterical. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
Have you seen when the black people turn up | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
and win all the fucking medals? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
The 100 yards, there's always nine black people | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
and a fucking Russian. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
What is the point of that fucking Russian? | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
There's no point, is there? "Take your marks...." | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
Gone. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
The Russian - | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
-RUSSIAN ACCENT: -"Check the meerkat.com..." | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:31 | 0:55:32 | |
Yeah. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
-You haven't really changed, have you? -Of course I have. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
-I don't do jokes anymore and I have changed. -But... | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
But you're saying that, Alan, but you haven't seen me. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
-It's true I haven't seen you, but when... -That's all my life, people say that - | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
-"Oh, you're that bloke who does..." -No, but I don't say that. What I say is I'm just... | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
I'm saying, are you true to who you are? Rather than trying to accommodate... | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
Yeah, I am true to who I am now. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
People look at me as if I am that fossil that was from the '70s | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
and should have stayed there. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
But I have a job to do and there's still millions and millions of people | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
that want to see comedians of a certain age. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
So, Jim Davidson or Ben Elton? Where do you stand? | 0:56:11 | 0:56:16 | |
Jim Davidson any time. Jim Davidson any time, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
and that doesn't mean I have to like Jim Davidson particularly. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
Ben Elton was like the end of comedy for a period. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
Ben Elton tried to make comedy out of what wasn't funny. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
He thought you could clean up comedy. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
There's no point in cleaning up comedy - that's not what it's for. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen! | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
And welcome to this, the first of our new series, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
which is now called FRIDAY Night Live. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
The title has changed but very little else has. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
Little else has changed in the world. We have the same Government, although we had an election, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
Mrs Thatcher stormed parliament for a third time. Careful - | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
if she wins it again, they'll have to let her keep it. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
I was about 12 and Ben Elton came on the scene, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
and I can't even explain... I almost get teary thinking about it. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:14 | |
I just felt like I had found my yellow brick road. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
You know, he was the Wizard of Oz. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
I have to be honest with you. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
I nearly didn't make it to the show tonight. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
I nearly did not get here. I almost got flummoxed at the very start of leaving my home, you see. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
I leave my house... Oh yeah, by the way, I've got a house. Yeah, I own a house. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
"Oh, my God! The hypocrisy of it," screams a certain newspaper. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
"Interested in a welfare state and he's got somewhere to sleep? | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
"Hypocrite - he ought to sleep in a cardboard box. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
"If he supports the National Health Service, why doesn't he cut his head off and kill himself, then?" | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
I was obsessive about Ben Elton, and he was political, | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
and what he said made sense to me. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
All the stuff that people were saying about Thatcher, all the anger - | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
suddenly it was in funny form, and I could relate to it and I got it. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
It was exciting and exhilarating at the beginning, because he was saying about Thatcher | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
what other people were not. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
It died away when he would stand on the stage and you'd think, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
"Hang on - this is a speech to a trade union. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
"This is no longer funny." The unforgivable thing, I think, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
for a comedian, is that he steps out of comedy and enters, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
you know, the sphere of current affairs or politics. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
It's not just that it's not funny anymore - | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
it's just that he's forgotten that he's involved in a... | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
He has a dramatic function. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:37 | |
I found myself in The Comedy Store in London, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
doing a topical comedy show called The Cutting Edge, | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
and lo and behold, two rows from the front, bang in the middle, | 0:58:50 | 0:58:54 | |
was none other than BBC comedy legend | 0:58:54 | 0:58:57 | |
Jim Davidson. | 0:58:57 | 0:58:58 | |
It's rather off-putting, to be honest with you, | 0:58:59 | 0:59:02 | |
having his smiling, red, alcoholic face sat there. | 0:59:02 | 0:59:05 | |
But he listened to the show and he laughed, | 0:59:05 | 0:59:07 | |
and then he came to chat to me at the bar afterwards. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:09 | |
And I really have nothing in common with Jim Davidson. | 0:59:09 | 0:59:13 | |
I mean, I'm Asian, he's a supposed racist. | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 | |
I'm gay, he's a supposed homophobe. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:18 | |
-But you liked him when you were there. -Not particularly. -He thought you did. | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
Well, they were all right, but it's like watching kids | 0:59:21 | 0:59:24 | |
playing at it, innit? "Hello, I'm Indian. I'm gay." You know? | 0:59:24 | 0:59:28 | |
Real obvious, awful, homophobic jokes. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:31 | |
I know, but then you were very, very rude about him, weren't you? | 0:59:31 | 0:59:34 | |
What? I only repeated what he said. | 0:59:34 | 0:59:36 | |
He called himself "the Indian poof" so that's what I referred to, | 0:59:36 | 0:59:40 | |
in speech marks. I spoke to "the Indian poof". | 0:59:40 | 0:59:43 | |
He called me an Indian poof. | 0:59:43 | 0:59:45 | |
Indian poof? | 0:59:45 | 0:59:47 | |
How politically incorrect is that? | 0:59:47 | 0:59:49 | |
I'm a British-Asian poof, and it's not the same thing. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:53 | |
And he also called me a jealous socialist cunt. | 0:59:53 | 0:59:57 | |
When that guy walked on stage and said something about... | 0:59:57 | 1:00:00 | |
This is the guy before the Indian "poof". | 1:00:00 | 1:00:03 | |
Someone mentioned Jade Goody, | 1:00:03 | 1:00:06 | |
and he said, "I'm glad she's dead - she's a fucking racist." OK? | 1:00:06 | 1:00:09 | |
And then decided to take the piss out of a girl from Sweden, | 1:00:09 | 1:00:12 | |
and did all anti-Swedish material about porn and sucking dicks | 1:00:12 | 1:00:16 | |
and things like that that, you know, Swedish people in porn films do. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:20 | |
Now, talk about hypocrisy of those three unfunny...stuck-up... | 1:00:20 | 1:00:24 | |
Oh, they make me so angry. | 1:00:24 | 1:00:26 | |
I've had moments in the past where people have come up to me | 1:00:26 | 1:00:29 | |
and said, "I didn't like what you said with that." | 1:00:29 | 1:00:33 | |
And I always think it's a bit weaselly to go, | 1:00:33 | 1:00:37 | |
"Well, it's just a joke." | 1:00:37 | 1:00:39 | |
Intent is everything. | 1:00:39 | 1:00:41 | |
It's absolutely everything, and I'm sure you've had friends | 1:00:41 | 1:00:44 | |
who are gay, Jewish, black, | 1:00:44 | 1:00:48 | |
whatever separates them from everybody else. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:53 | |
I have friends of all of those types and I'm merciless with them. | 1:00:53 | 1:00:59 | |
And they are with me. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:01 | |
But then someone else'll step in and say something, | 1:01:01 | 1:01:05 | |
-and the room'll go cold. You go... -SUCKS IN BREATH | 1:01:05 | 1:01:08 | |
"I don't like that." And sometimes it's extremely difficult | 1:01:08 | 1:01:12 | |
to tell where they differed from what you said. | 1:01:12 | 1:01:17 | |
But it's the intent, | 1:01:17 | 1:01:19 | |
and you have a built-in ear for the ring of truth, | 1:01:19 | 1:01:24 | |
and a comedian must have it, | 1:01:24 | 1:01:27 | |
or he becomes just another fascist, or just another racist, | 1:01:27 | 1:01:32 | |
just another sexist. You have to tread very lightly, you know? | 1:01:32 | 1:01:36 | |
Well, I tend to crash through it | 1:01:36 | 1:01:38 | |
like a man crashing through the long grass, | 1:01:38 | 1:01:41 | |
because that's where all the fun lies. | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
Marker. | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
In our childhood we have all these dysfunctions | 1:01:59 | 1:02:01 | |
and they kind of...meld together and they form a formula - | 1:02:01 | 1:02:06 | |
an individual formula drives us to be whatever it is...we're driven to be. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:12 | |
For comedians it's definitely, like, any kind of humiliation. | 1:02:12 | 1:02:16 | |
You know? I know for me... | 1:02:16 | 1:02:18 | |
I was raped by a doctor, | 1:02:18 | 1:02:21 | |
which is, erm... | 1:02:21 | 1:02:22 | |
..you know, so bittersweet for a Jewish girl. | 1:02:24 | 1:02:28 | |
LAUGHTER AND SOME APPLAUSE | 1:02:28 | 1:02:31 | |
I think audiences should be offended or pushed and pulled. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:34 | |
I think that's a job of a comic - to make them rethink things. | 1:02:34 | 1:02:38 | |
I mean, if you're not offended by the end of a comedy show, you didn't get your money's worth. | 1:02:38 | 1:02:43 | |
I always think, like, I should get on and if I want to have kids I just... | 1:02:43 | 1:02:47 | |
You know, once you hit 30, you know, you've got to decide fast, | 1:02:47 | 1:02:51 | |
cos it can be difficult to conceive, it can be dangerous. | 1:02:51 | 1:02:55 | |
I mean, the best time to have a baby is when you're a black teenager. But... | 1:02:55 | 1:03:00 | |
There's a lot of racism and sexism and homophobia | 1:03:02 | 1:03:05 | |
that's wrapped up in irony, | 1:03:05 | 1:03:07 | |
and it's sort of like, really, if you take the irony away, | 1:03:07 | 1:03:10 | |
those jokes could be done by racists, sexists and homophobes, | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
-and the irony... Irony's a very thin material. -HE LAUGHS | 1:03:13 | 1:03:17 | |
And it rips and tears very easily, so I feel like | 1:03:17 | 1:03:20 | |
the comics who are trading in irony have to have responsibility. | 1:03:20 | 1:03:24 | |
Some responsibility around the fact that I don't know | 1:03:24 | 1:03:26 | |
that everybody's receiving this ironically. | 1:03:26 | 1:03:29 | |
Are there any black people here tonight? Smile - I can't see you. Anybody? | 1:03:31 | 1:03:35 | |
Are there any radical Muslim fundamentalists in tonight? | 1:03:36 | 1:03:40 | |
If there are, raise both hooks and then back to your cell. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:44 | |
I like that they're not sure what's going to happen next. | 1:03:44 | 1:03:47 | |
I never want an audience to be able to predict | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
what they're going to feel watching me. | 1:03:49 | 1:03:52 | |
I want them on the edge of their seat, no matter the subject matter. That way they listen. | 1:03:52 | 1:03:56 | |
I'm part Jew and I love the Jews. I love that in this country you can say "Jew." | 1:03:56 | 1:04:00 | |
What a relief. Nobody minds, right? | 1:04:00 | 1:04:01 | |
In America, "That's racist - you're going to burn." You won't burn for saying "Jew." | 1:04:01 | 1:04:06 | |
You only burn in hell if you ARE a Jew, right? | 1:04:06 | 1:04:09 | |
Read the fucking Koran. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:11 | |
Comedy is meant to be confrontational. That's the whole point. | 1:04:11 | 1:04:14 | |
Why do paedophiles always have beards and glasses? | 1:04:14 | 1:04:17 | |
What is it about that look | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
that children find so sexy? | 1:04:19 | 1:04:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
I liked that tour that Prince Charles took Camilla on in India, | 1:04:31 | 1:04:34 | |
last year. Proper rural India as well. | 1:04:34 | 1:04:37 | |
You know that half the people that turned up were going, | 1:04:37 | 1:04:39 | |
"Diana's really let herself go." | 1:04:39 | 1:04:42 | |
Does anyone else think that Camilla is almost exactly | 1:04:44 | 1:04:47 | |
what Diana would have looked like if she'd survived the crash? | 1:04:47 | 1:04:52 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:04:52 | 1:04:56 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:04:56 | 1:04:58 | |
I can find things very funny and offensive in equal measure. | 1:04:58 | 1:05:01 | |
I don't think there's anything wrong with being, "Ha-ha-ha! | 1:05:01 | 1:05:04 | |
"Don't say that ever again." | 1:05:04 | 1:05:06 | |
I think... I feel like, as a comic, | 1:05:06 | 1:05:08 | |
trading in jokes, there's a lot of times where I find comics | 1:05:08 | 1:05:11 | |
who I think their jokes are really well written and crafted, but I don't think they're... | 1:05:11 | 1:05:15 | |
I think their jokes are doing bad things, or not helping people, you know? | 1:05:15 | 1:05:19 | |
But every comic is not in this for the same reason. | 1:05:19 | 1:05:22 | |
See, if there's a riot in Delhi, | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
how do you know? | 1:05:24 | 1:05:26 | |
Millions of people in the streets, stuff burning, screaming... | 1:05:27 | 1:05:31 | |
Could be a riot, could be a wedding. | 1:05:31 | 1:05:34 | |
The result is the same - | 1:05:34 | 1:05:37 | |
800 dead. | 1:05:37 | 1:05:38 | |
I don't think that you realise that the joke you're making, | 1:05:39 | 1:05:42 | |
even though it's covered in irony, can be received by people | 1:05:42 | 1:05:45 | |
in ways that they don't perceive the irony - | 1:05:45 | 1:05:47 | |
they just support the point. | 1:05:47 | 1:05:49 | |
Like, I don't want to be labelled as straight, or labelled as gay. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:53 | |
I just want people to look at me and see ME, | 1:05:53 | 1:05:58 | |
you know, as white. And... | 1:05:58 | 1:05:59 | |
I don't care if you think I'm racist. I just want you to think I'm thin. | 1:06:01 | 1:06:06 | |
American is the mother tongue of stand-up comedy. | 1:06:11 | 1:06:14 | |
When they killed Bin Laden, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:16 | |
he had three wives, 23 children. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:19 | |
Do you know who called the SEALs? | 1:06:19 | 1:06:22 | |
He did. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:24 | |
I know comedians, they've got a 13-word joke | 1:06:24 | 1:06:27 | |
and they will struggle to cut it down to eight words. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:30 | |
I'm here! | 1:06:30 | 1:06:32 | |
I feel I should come out and go, | 1:06:32 | 1:06:34 | |
"There's an Englishman, there's an Irishman and there was a Scottish man..." | 1:06:34 | 1:06:39 | |
Digital viewers can press the red button now | 1:06:46 | 1:06:48 | |
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