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'Where do writers get their ideas?

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'This one gets his from a green manilla folder every December.

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'Ian Rankin writes one book a year.'

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Basically, this pile of what looks like scrap paper,

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potentially, is my next book.

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The story's in here somewhere.

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I'm just looking for it to reveal itself.

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Throughout the year, I've just got some ideas.

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I've just scribbled them down on any pieces of paper I can.

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Clippings from newspapers.

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This is a napkin from a hotel. I've scribbled a couple of ideas on it.

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I just flick through and see if anything jumps out at me.

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"The Church and the NHS working together on exorcism."

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"A deaf kid lip-reads something they shouldn't."

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A doctor who claimed to have helped save lives on 7/7,

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who turned out not to be a doctor at all.

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I have my doubts that I can use that. Maybe a short story.

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An idea here for a stand-alone...

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'Ian Rankin has had at least one good idea a year for 25 years.

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'His best-known character is the hard-bitten Edinburgh cop

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'John Rebus.

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'A leathery maverick who refuses to play by the rules.'

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I'm going to have to arrest you for impersonating a human being.

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I'm going to ask you once more nicely, OK?

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Fuck off!

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'17 Rebus books and a popular TV series

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'have made Ian Rankin a household name and a millionaire.'

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YOU BASTARD!

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'Unfortunately, having written the books in real time,

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'Rankin was forced to retire Rebus five years ago,

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'when the detective hit 60.

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'Exit Music saw the brooding anti-hero riding off into the sunset.

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'Which leaves Ian Rankin with a bit of a problem.

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'What's he going to write about next?'

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What's this? A guy going up and down the A9, seeking missing daughter.

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"How can a young woman vanish without leaving a single clue?"

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Anything to do with cold cases, the reopening of unsolved murders.

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Some of these clippings go back 2009 and I haven't found a use for them.

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Doesn't mean to say that I won't.

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Nothing is ever wasted.

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If I'm lucky, I get one good idea a year.

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If you're a novelist, one good idea a year is all you need.

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'It's the last Saturday before Christmas

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'and 200 Rankin fans have queued for an hour to meet him.'

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-Hello. Who's Gordon?

-It's my dad.

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Hope this isn't all he's getting for Christmas.

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-Thank you.

-Take care.

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'The small matter of writing a new book will have to wait.

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'He's busy promoting the last one.'

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Ian Rankin's huge.

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For book sales, he's one of the world top 20 authors

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that keeps the book trade going.

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And keeps us going as a company. He's that important.

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Is there a queue still at the door? Oh, Christ!

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I think he's got that fan base that you associate with huge writers.

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You're going to get huge crowds come to see him.

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People are that passionate about his characters and his books.

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'Rankin's latest book, The Impossible Dead,

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'features his more recent creation, Inspector Malcolm Fox from Internal Affairs.

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'Fox couldn't be more different from Rebus.

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'Teetotal, whiter than white, he lives and works by the rules.'

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Thank you. Bye.

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'I do think Malcolm is much more like me as a human being.

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'Rebus is much more of a maverick, more of a rule-breaker,

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'very negative in his outlook on human nature - none of that pertains to Malcolm.'

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'He's a bit of a square, but people seem to be warming to Malcolm Fox.

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'In fact, the size of this crowd would suggest he has a very bright future ahead of him.'

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Thanks for coming along. Hello.

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Thanks for coming along. See ya.

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Hello. All right. See ya.

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Hiya. All right? See ya.

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-Hi there.

-Hey, how you doing?

-OK.

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This is my last event of the year, so I can relax now.

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And get started on the next book.

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I've no idea if you're stable or not.

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'Ian has agreed to keep a video diary over the next six months,

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'as he writes his new book.'

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It's, er... January 2nd, 2012.

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On this day in 2011, I actually started writing The Impossible Dead,

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my latest novel.

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History has not repeated itself,

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but I've spent today typing up all my notes for the new book.

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So, if I'm in the mood, any day now, I'm going to get started writing.

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Hurrah.

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It's Sunday 8th January,

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and I intend to start writing the new novel tomorrow.

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I haven't done much the last few days.

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Except get a haircut. I've got 12 pages of notes.

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So, filming tomorrow - day one of the writing process.

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I'm thinking of just about anything but sitting down and writing that book.

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At the back of my head, it's ticking over.

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I'm a bit lazy and I don't work best first thing in the morning.

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So I need to have had something occupying my time until the evil hour

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when I've got to sit at the word processor and start... bashing out the next book.

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I read at least one newspaper a day and pretend it's research.

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Mostly what I'm doing is Sudoku and crosswords.

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Writing is a very solitary thing to do.

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You do it yourself in isolation,

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and I suppose he really goes into himself.

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That can be annoying, until I think, "Ah! It's the build-up to a novel."

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Once I realise that that's what's happening, it's fine.

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I just get on with life and he is like a teenage student.

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Tangerine Dream, Ricochet.

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I can listen to that all day.

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MUSIC STARTS

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Because I've been using these same albums for years,

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it tells my brain, "We're now in writing mode."

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This is shutting out the real world. You're now in this little bubble.

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And you can write away.

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Really, you just want to get it kicked off.

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You want to get some words down on paper.

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Hopefully, more than one page.

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"The rain wasn't quite falling yet,

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"but it had scheduled an appointment.

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"There were people here he knew, but probably not many.

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"A gap appeared between two of the mourners

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"and he caught a glimpse of the graveside.

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"Christ, he needed a cigarette."

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Without giving too much away at the moment,

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from page one, there's a male of a certain age standing in a cemetery,

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er...watching a cop who he knew

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being put into the ground, er...

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and he's dying for a cigarette.

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So, that gives you the clue as to who this character might be, although I've not named him yet.

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I'm on to page two. One of the mourners is approaching him and he's just about to be named.

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'Ian Rankin is synonymous with Edinburgh.

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'They make for an intriguing pair.

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'The city with a reputation for hiding its secrets

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'and the writer renowned for playing his cards close to his chest.'

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So this is week one, Ian, then? The beginning?

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The beginning of the writing or the beginning of the first draft.

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There's a long road to go.

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Can I ask you who is at the heart of this book?

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-I take it it isn't Rebus.

-At the moment, it IS Rebus.

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-Oh, my God!

-I wasn't planning a comeback quite this soon for him.

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I was thinking of bringing him back at some point, but the nature of the theme I wanted to explore,

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the nature of the plot, he was the best person for it.

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Yesterday, I was at a funeral - and then I started to write it.

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It's a guy at a funeral, watching from the back.

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He doesn't want to be too close to mortality.

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He doesn't want to see the open grave.

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Then I had to think, is his voice still in my head?

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Do we have some unfinished business?

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-ACTOR:

-'"John," he said. "Tommy," Rebus replied.

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'"Got to be us one of these days, eh?"

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'"Not yet, though."

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'The two men started walking towards the cemetery gates.

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'Rebus lit up and inhaled.

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'"How long have you been out of the game now?" he asked.

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'"Twelve years and counting. One of the lucky ones."

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'He was holding out his hand.

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'Rebus shook it.

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'"Till the next time, eh?"

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"So long as it's not one of us in the wooden suit."'

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This process in which you have certain ideas and connections,

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-the fact that you went to a funeral, you clearly don't plan funerals.

-No!

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-All those things somehow converging.

-I know.

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If you were a spiritual person, you would say there's something up there

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that's connecting all these things and bringing the stories to you.

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It's as though the stories are up there,

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waiting to be channelled to you.

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When did you think to yourself, at what point in the last two or three months,

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did you decide, "OK, this one's for Rebus"?

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It wasn't until day one, when I came back from the cafe

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and started to type the scene at the cemetery, when he says,

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"That'll be us one of these days, Rebus."

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It was then I got a little thrill cos I thought, "Yup. It IS him.

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-"It's me and him again."

-I think a lot of other people will get a thrill, too.

-I hope so.

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What are people going to say in general about this?

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"You've failed with Malcolm Fox.

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"You can't write any other books except ones with this character."

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I don't know. People might think it's a retrograde step.

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I'll be face-to-face with lots of interviewers, reviewers, who'll be saying things like,

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"You brought Rebus back. Is that a failing, a mark that your post-Rebus writing wasn't successful?"

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Always at the back of my mind I've got Conan Doyle

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getting rid of Sherlock Holmes and then bringing him back.

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'Ah yes! This isn't the first time an Edinburgh writer

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'has resurrected a well-loved sleuth.

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'Conan Doyle threw Holmes off a cliff

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'and brought him back from the dead.

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'His readers were delighted,

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'but the author confessed to a nagging guilt about the contrivance.

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'It seems Ian is worrying along similar lines.

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'How can a writer who prides himself on his realism

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'justify Rebus's return?'

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He retired at the end of Exit Music.

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But in that book it was intimated that what he would do would be to...

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apply to join the cold case unit, which exists in Edinburgh.

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And which is staffed mostly by retired detectives

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who look at old unsolved cases.

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The idea I got for the book happened to involve an old unsolved case.

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I thought there's no way I can shoehorn Malcolm Fox into this narrative.

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It would be a lot easier if Rebus did actually go off and had joined the cold case unit

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as a civilian working for the police.

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Then this fell into his lap.

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'For Rankin, crime fiction is a means of chronicling our times.

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'His books have explored contemporary themes

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'like sex trafficking, drug dealing and the oil industry.'

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I am looking for reality,

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for something that I think could happen in the real world.

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'So what's on his mind this time?

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'Could it be our ageing workforce?'

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At one time, if you were a police officer in Scotland, if you were uniform, you retired at 55.

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If you were CID, you could work until you were 60.

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The reason that Rebus retired was that he would have been 60,

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but now he's able to work until he's 67 - or soon will be.

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So there's that potential for seven more years of Rebus books.

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-ACTOR:

-'The traffic in Edinburgh was, indeed, a nightmare.

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'Temporary lights, road closures, diversions.

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'Most of it to accommodate a single tram line from the airport to the city centre.

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'While stationary, he checked his phone for messages,

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'unsurprised to find there were none.

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'No urgent cases required his attention.

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'He worked with the long-dead,

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'murder victims forgotten by the world at large.'

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-You haven't yet told us...

-The title?

-..what the title is.

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One of the notes I'd made to myself

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was from a Jackie Leven song.

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The line was "standing in another man's grave", which was the refrain.

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I thought that's a really interesting phrase.

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I went to find the song and it was a mondegreen.

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You know what a mondegreen is, Alan? It's a mishearing.

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It comes from an early song, "They slew the bold Sir So-and-So and laid him on the green."

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People heard it as "and Lady Mondegreen".

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I had misheard the line "standing in another man's rain".

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As far as I know, it's called Standing In Another Man's Grave.

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Which is great, cos it opens with Rebus at a graveside.

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He goes to his car. There's a Jackie Leven CD playing and he mishears the song.

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-So he does...

-Exactly what I did. Yes.

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'Rankin's real life has a habit of finding its way into his books.

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'Although he repeatedly claims that he and Rebus are nothing like one another,

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'they share more than just a love of rock music.'

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I decided early on in the series

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that Rebus would come from the same background as me.

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'Rankin and Rebus are not only from the same Fife town,

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'they grew up on the same street, Craigmead Terrace.'

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My dad was a great storyteller.

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We didn't have many books in the house, but he was a wonderful liar!

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He had a wee nick in his knee from when he was a kid, he would say it was a bullet wound.

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For years, I believed him that it was a bullet wound.

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It still stuns me when I think that I make more in a year

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than my father made in his working life - he worked for 50 years.

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He never earned more than five grand a year.

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For a lot of that time, he earned much less.

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So 50 years of his earnings wouldn't come to what I earn in a year.

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And that's shocking. I sort of wish he was alive to see it.

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I don't spend money on fripperies.

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Just on essentials like beer and vinyl, you know!

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As you can see, I certainly don't spend much money on clothes.

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I tended to live in a world of my own.

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I made Cardenden a more exciting place in my imagination than it might have been in real life.

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I peopled it with zombies and aliens and invading armies

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and I would be the only person who could free it from the oppressor.

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I would hang around the street corner in Cardenden

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with the tough kids, with their Doc Martens and shaved heads.

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But whenever there was a possibility of a rumble, a rammy,

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I'd say, "I've got to go home for my tea now."

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I wouldn't participate. I'd be on the periphery.

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I'd go home and write about it so that I could structure it,

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make things happen on the page the way I wanted them to happen.

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Whereas real life could be messy and chaotic.

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So I guess I've got mixed feelings about the place, because it was a lovely, lovely place to grow up.

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And yet, I did feel at 17, 18, that I had to leave

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so that I could become a writer.

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'Young Rankin moved to Edinburgh in 1978

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'with dreams of becoming a poet, but found a city gripped

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'by a gruesome murder enquiry.

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'The disappearance of two teenage girls,

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'dubbed The World's End murders after a pub they were last seen in,

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'is a crime that remains unsolved to this day.'

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When I started off wanting to be a writer,

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I wanted to make sense of the world,

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to make sense of Edinburgh and then the wider world.

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I decided the cop detective was a good means of doing that

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because they have access to the politicians and the big businesses,

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but also the dispossessed and disenfranchised.

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So every layer of society can be explored in this one kind of novel

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with this one character, and that still pertains.

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I'm still asking questions about the world, trying to work out in my head,

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"How does the world work? How is everything connected up?"

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Each book is another small failing to explain that properly to myself,

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so I've got to start again.

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"Deaths along motorways over a series of years, are they connected?"

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"Retired cop (?) Parent of missing kid from years back (?) On a quest."

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"People who frequent motorways.

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"Sleazy, desperate, travellers, truckers, petrol stations,

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"cafes, roadworks guys, AA patrolmen, hitchers, reps, holidaymakers..."

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I'm working hard to make sense of this...fucking plot!

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I'm surrounded by scraps of paper and notes,

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but some of those notes relate to things that are going to happen,

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things that have got to happen within the next few pages, scenes or chapters.

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"A 15-year-old girl has gone missing

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"while hitchhiking along a scenic highway in rural Scotland.

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"The only clue is a photograph sent from her phone.

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"Two detectives, one of them retired, are working the case

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"when they learn that there may be other victims out there,

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"stretching back a decade or more."

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A lot of this comes from your own observations and experience.

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How do the worlds of fiction and the real world...coincide?

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The real world is very messy and incomplete.

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Often, questions aren't answered. We can't always make sense of things.

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What the novel does for me is a therapeutic thing of giving a shape.

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I can take all that mess, all these notes and clippings,

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all these moments and mondegreens and give it a shape, give it an arc,

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make it into a story, and that is very satisfying.

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-You can be God!

-Of course you're God.

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You ARE God. You have the power of life and death over your characters.

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If someone annoys you, you can bump them off in your books.

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'Hard-boiled Scottish crime writing, or tartan noire, as it's known,

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'is now well-established.

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'But when Rankin started writing the Rebus books,

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'British crime fiction was altogether more genteel,

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'a place of country houses and spinster sleuths.

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'What Rankin did was to bring a shot of reality to the genre.

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'The Edinburgh of his books is a warts and all city,

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'peppered with real characters and real places.'

0:22:030:22:07

A pint of heavy as pulled by a student.

0:22:090:22:13

Useless! She's a nag!

0:22:130:22:14

Finish that. Go back, get a picture of Angela, get her circulated.

0:22:150:22:20

-What are you going to do?

-What I do best.

0:22:210:22:23

Drinking and thinking.

0:22:230:22:25

'In the novels, Rebus famously does most of his drinking and thinking

0:22:300:22:34

'in the Oxford Bar.'

0:22:340:22:36

When I first started drinking here, I'd started to think about writing this Rebus book.

0:22:360:22:41

Where was he going to drink? This place was full of off-duty cops.

0:22:410:22:46

It was a very popular drinking hole with cops.

0:22:460:22:49

So I thought, this is where Rebus would drink. There's no bells or whistles. No affectation.

0:22:490:22:55

It's hidden away, part of the secret Edinburgh I'm going to write about.

0:22:550:22:59

Then I thought this makes people think they're getting a book about a real guy!

0:22:590:23:05

He lives in a real street, drinks in a real pub, works in a real police station. He must be real.

0:23:050:23:10

I think you said that if you were to meet Rebus, you wouldn't get on.

0:23:100:23:15

No. If he walked into this pub - which he does, regularly -

0:23:150:23:19

and met me, he would see me as being a wishy washy liberal,

0:23:190:23:24

suckled by the state, never had to do a hard day's work in his life.

0:23:240:23:28

All I do is tell lies for a living.

0:23:280:23:30

He wouldn't see that as being a proper job.

0:23:300:23:33

We'd talk about beer, about music for maybe 20 minutes, half an hour.

0:23:330:23:38

Then he'd get a bit prickly and he'd have to leave, or I'd have to leave.

0:23:380:23:42

Otherwise he's going to take me outside for a fight.

0:23:420:23:46

He's the bastard responsible for all this. I'm gonna fucking have him!

0:23:480:23:53

-Be careful.

-Too late for that now.

0:23:530:23:56

Is it true that you couldn't watch the shows?

0:23:560:23:59

-I've still never watched them.

-You have never watched...?

-No.

0:23:590:24:03

I've got them on DVDs, which I've not watched yet.

0:24:030:24:06

I didn't want the books to suddenly be John Hannah or Ken Stott,

0:24:060:24:11

physically or in terms of their intonation or thought process.

0:24:110:24:15

You thought that if you were contaminated or somehow...

0:24:150:24:19

It happened to Colin Dexter with Morse. He says it openly.

0:24:190:24:22

He changed the character of Morse in the books to be more like John Thaw,

0:24:220:24:27

the actor who played him, because he was seduced by the characterisation.

0:24:270:24:31

I don't want to change my character. I know my character.

0:24:310:24:34

If he's going to change, I want him to change for other reasons, not because an actor's taken him on.

0:24:340:24:40

So I thought I'm not going near the TV.

0:24:400:24:43

'The mark of a great character

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'is one who exists in such a tangible way in the reader's mind

0:24:520:24:56

'that he can withstand many interpretations.

0:24:560:24:59

'I would say Rebus is a great character -

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'although he hasn't always been so well loved.'

0:25:040:25:08

I've got my diary here from 1987.

0:25:100:25:13

March 19th, which was a Thursday,

0:25:130:25:16

was publication day for Knots & Crosses,

0:25:160:25:19

the first book to feature John Rebus.

0:25:190:25:22

He wasn't an inspector. He was a detective sergeant.

0:25:220:25:24

It says, "Publication Day, which was no big thing.

0:25:240:25:28

"I like it before my books are published, when I can dream of greatness.

0:25:280:25:31

"Afterwards, there is only cold reality."

0:25:310:25:34

There were a few reviews and a real stinker.

0:25:340:25:36

"Yesterday..." name erased "..reviewed my book in the Glasgow Herald, a real hatchet job

0:25:360:25:42

"with nary a word of praise.

0:25:420:25:44

"Bastard, bastard, bastard, bastard" it says! CHUCKLES

0:25:440:25:49

'Because the early Rebus books weren't selling,

0:25:510:25:54

'Rankin had no choice but to diversify.'

0:25:540:25:57

I did go through a period where I wrote thrillers under a pseudonym,

0:25:570:26:01

aimed at an international airport audience, really.

0:26:010:26:04

-That sounds opportunistic of you, Ian.

-It was. I was skint.

0:26:040:26:09

I was writing Rebus novels but nobody was buying them

0:26:090:26:13

in great numbers, so I wasn't making enough money to feed my family.

0:26:130:26:17

I had to write two novels a year. My publisher did not want two Rebus novels a year.

0:26:170:26:23

They had enough trouble selling one. So I wrote thrillers.

0:26:230:26:26

But I didn't like it as much as I liked writing A, about Scotland and B, about cops.

0:26:260:26:32

'After ten years of mid-list obscurity,

0:26:340:26:37

'Rankin finally broke through with his eighth Rebus book,

0:26:370:26:41

'Black And Blue.

0:26:410:26:43

'Richly detailed and broader in scope than his previous books,

0:26:430:26:47

'Black And Blue evoked the social,

0:26:470:26:49

'political and criminal landscape of modern Scotland.

0:26:490:26:53

'It was awarded the Gold Dagger,

0:26:540:26:56

'and propelled Ian from struggling genre writer

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'to blockbusting author

0:27:000:27:01

'whose every book since has been a Number One best-seller.

0:27:010:27:06

'But with success comes a greater pressure to deliver,

0:27:060:27:10

'a pressure made worse by the fact that, as he writes this new book,

0:27:100:27:14

'he still doesn't have a clear idea of where the story is going.'

0:27:140:27:18

The fear has arrived.

0:27:180:27:21

Every book before you start is a kind of notion of a perfect book that you're going to write.

0:27:210:27:28

As you begin to write it, the notion of perfection begins to fall away.

0:27:280:27:33

That's happening, so the fear now is that when I look at the book,

0:27:330:27:36

what I've written so far, it won't be very good.

0:27:360:27:40

And the other fear is that I'm not going to know how it's going to end.

0:27:400:27:44

I don't know if I've shown you the quote on the wall in my study,

0:27:440:27:49

but it is quite pertinent.

0:27:490:27:51

It sits above my computer.

0:27:510:27:53

"Every book is the wreck of a perfect idea," says Iris Murdoch.

0:27:530:28:00

So that's where I am, the wreck of a perfect idea.

0:28:040:28:07

-MIRANDA:

-This is where we're at its toughest, where he's writing daily,

0:28:090:28:14

not absolutely certain where he's going.

0:28:140:28:18

One of my things to do is to remind him which phase he's in when he's writing.

0:28:180:28:23

We always talk about the 65-page pause,

0:28:230:28:27

where he has poured onto the page all the things he's thought about,

0:28:270:28:32

all his ideas are down in black and white.

0:28:320:28:35

Then he kind of runs out of steam and he's always saying,

0:28:350:28:38

"It's going really badly." I say, "You're at page 65?"

0:28:380:28:41

He says, "I am at page 65." And I say, "It'll be all right."

0:28:410:28:45

A lot of people would be surprised that you leave so much open.

0:28:470:28:51

Do you know what Rebus is going to find at the end? What's the last few pages, few chapters?

0:28:510:28:58

I've got a sense of where the book might end up,

0:28:580:29:03

but I've got no idea what's going to happen in the intervening 300 pages.

0:29:030:29:07

The first draft is me being the detective,

0:29:070:29:10

finding out how these characters connect to these characters,

0:29:100:29:14

finding out places we need to go, interesting scenes.

0:29:140:29:17

And then the book will say we want to go in this direction now.

0:29:170:29:21

Not the direction you thought you were going in, but this one is more interesting.

0:29:210:29:26

So the first draft is me feeling my way,

0:29:260:29:28

as the detective is doing, towards a solution.

0:29:280:29:31

Usually, it turns out to be different from where I thought it was going to go.

0:29:310:29:36

Which is a thrill, but I wouldn't recommend it as a way of writing a book.

0:29:360:29:42

'As well as the Rebus novels, Rankin has written a number of stand-alone books.

0:29:450:29:50

'One is being turned into a TV drama starring Stephen Fry.

0:29:500:29:54

'Doors Open is a thriller about a banker, a professor and a self-made millionaire

0:29:550:30:00

'who conspire to pull off an art heist.'

0:30:000:30:03

I'd heard of Ian Rankin. I knew he was an immensely successful writer.

0:30:030:30:07

His books always zoomed to the top of the charts.

0:30:070:30:10

And I'd watched Rebus, both in his young incarnation

0:30:100:30:14

played by John Hannah, and then the older...

0:30:140:30:17

-SCOTTISH ACCENT

-..and slightly darker Ken Stott.

0:30:170:30:21

And I'd loved them both.

0:30:210:30:23

'Ian may stay away from the Rebus programmes,

0:30:230:30:26

'but he acknowledges there are certain advantages to having your work televised.'

0:30:260:30:32

In the UK, to be a Number One best-seller,

0:30:320:30:35

you probably have to sell 20,000 or 30,000 paperbacks in any given week.

0:30:350:30:39

And a Rebus novel or an Ian Rankin novel

0:30:390:30:42

might end up selling 250,000 copies in paperback.

0:30:420:30:46

Five to ten million people could watch it on TV!

0:30:460:30:49

If a fraction of them who haven't bought the books buy the books, you're making a bit of extra income.

0:30:490:30:55

And, action!

0:30:550:30:57

-You started without me.

-I warn you, Alan, I'm not in the mood.

0:30:570:31:01

If you're not at the dinner, you're probably on the menu.

0:31:010:31:04

Thank you, Robert...

0:31:040:31:06

It's really interesting watching three characters who, until now,

0:31:070:31:11

have only been words on the page for me or characters inside my head.

0:31:110:31:15

Suddenly, they have human shape.

0:31:150:31:17

I think all three look pretty much perfect, as far as casting goes.

0:31:170:31:22

So that's very pleasing.

0:31:220:31:24

A lot of dialogue is stuff I didn't write, it was added by James Mavor,

0:31:240:31:28

better lines than mine in some cases, which is really annoying.

0:31:280:31:32

'Screenwriter James Mavor is an old university friend,

0:31:320:31:36

'and can remember a time when not everything Ian wrote

0:31:360:31:39

'turned to gold.'

0:31:390:31:42

We started up a magazine, a fanzine for writing, called Sharp Edges.

0:31:420:31:47

-My first publisher.

-Wonderful name.

0:31:480:31:50

First stuff I ever got in print was in that magazine.

0:31:500:31:53

-We published two issues of some quite embarrassing poetry, I think.

-Yes.

0:31:530:31:58

-Which I happen to have here!

-No, please.

0:31:580:32:01

This is classic, vintage memorabilia, Sharp Edges.

0:32:010:32:07

Ian's poem there with a lovely illustration.

0:32:070:32:10

-I'll just read the first two lines.

-Go on.

0:32:100:32:13

"Cejan, in a listless frame of mind,

0:32:130:32:16

"paints mauve sketches of the homeland

0:32:160:32:19

"far beyond the greying mists of Bern."

0:32:190:32:22

-There's so much wrong with that.

-It's very good(!)

0:32:220:32:25

In the second one, there's a poem about a one-night stand.

0:32:250:32:29

Let's not even go near that one. No. Let's not go near that one.

0:32:290:32:33

'Thankfully, for all involved, Ian ditched the poetry

0:32:330:32:37

'and took up crime writing.'

0:32:370:32:39

Crime actually provides a better snapshot, I think,

0:32:390:32:43

of the culture, the milieu in which it's set,

0:32:430:32:46

than any other genre.

0:32:460:32:48

Sometimes, really good genre writing is a lot better than mediocre great literature.

0:32:480:32:54

I think Rebus fits in very well. Young Rebus is kind of hopeful.

0:32:540:32:58

He believes that, not only can you solve the crime, the case,

0:32:580:33:02

but that in each case he solves he'll somehow...

0:33:020:33:05

make Edinburgh a better place.

0:33:050:33:08

Then the older Rebus, when you meet him,

0:33:080:33:10

has given up that idea entirely.

0:33:100:33:13

He can solve the case, and he needs to solve the case,

0:33:130:33:17

but he no longer believes that in unlocking one case,

0:33:170:33:20

somehow he's making Edinburgh better.

0:33:200:33:23

He's become a pessimist, and one feels very sorry for him.

0:33:230:33:27

I think that it's an extraordinary journey.

0:33:270:33:30

There are not many equivalents because most of the great figures

0:33:300:33:34

like Holmes, Poirot and Miss Marple stay the same, absolutely the same.

0:33:340:33:38

But there's real growth in Rebus.

0:33:380:33:40

-ACTOR:

-'"The job's changed, Siobhan. Everything's..."

0:33:450:33:48

'He struggled to find the words.

0:33:480:33:50

'"You're vinyl. We're digital," Clarke offered.

0:33:500:33:54

'"Contacts used to be the way you got things done.

0:33:550:33:59

'"The only network that mattered was the one out on the street."

0:33:590:34:03

'"Your way works, too, John. Don't go thinking you're obsolete."

0:34:030:34:07

'She pointed to his nearly empty glass. "Are we having another?"

0:34:070:34:11

'"Might as well, eh?"'

0:34:120:34:14

The slight problem with this new book, it doesn't start with a crime scene.

0:34:160:34:20

People will tell you that's a mistake.

0:34:200:34:23

If you want to sell loads of copies of your crime novel,

0:34:230:34:26

the crime has got to happen page one, grip the reader from page one.

0:34:260:34:30

I've made a note to myself, "If this looks too slow,

0:34:300:34:33

"put in a little bit right at the start in italics."

0:34:330:34:37

LAUGHING: From the killer's point of view! It's such a cliche!

0:34:370:34:40

-I sense you partly did this because...

-It's a different kind of book.

0:34:400:34:45

And because you're bringing Rebus back and having to say to the world,

0:34:450:34:49

-"This is Rebus now. He's a different person."

-He is.

0:34:490:34:52

-It's a different kind of book and, also, it's a character study.

-Yeah.

0:34:520:34:56

It's a study of loss because I want him to get to know someone

0:34:560:35:00

whose child went missing many years ago.

0:35:000:35:04

They have never managed to escape that moment. They're still looking for their child.

0:35:040:35:09

So they come to Rebus saying, "There's a connection.

0:35:090:35:12

"People keep going missing and nobody's noticed."

0:35:120:35:15

The cops always dismissed them as being too wrapped up in this moment

0:35:150:35:20

when their child went missing.

0:35:200:35:22

But Rebus has a connection with him.

0:35:220:35:25

There's an empathy there, so he decides to do a bit of digging.

0:35:250:35:29

He starts to believe their story.

0:35:290:35:31

There's a tight relationship between them that I want to happen.

0:35:310:35:35

So it's much more a book about loss and memory and mortality

0:35:350:35:39

and letting go of people,

0:35:390:35:41

than it is a story about a whodunit/serial killer.

0:35:410:35:45

Maybe nobody will buy it, of course. Maybe everybody will be put off.

0:35:500:35:54

Reviewers will say, "Mr Rankin is writing a different kind of book and it's not good."

0:35:540:35:59

I've just had a fairly good few days.

0:36:010:36:05

In that what I put down on the page seemed to be...

0:36:050:36:09

..good stuff.

0:36:110:36:13

I was enjoying it and it did seem to be pushing the plot forward.

0:36:130:36:17

On the other hand, late last night, I suddenly got the fear again,

0:36:170:36:22

that I really don't know where this book is going, even at this stage.

0:36:220:36:26

It just seems to be a bit random

0:36:260:36:28

and...not hugely exciting.

0:36:280:36:31

I was going to take a day off on Monday because I'm taking the train down to London

0:36:310:36:37

for my publisher's 20th anniversary party, where I'm going to be giving a speech, which I've not written yet.

0:36:370:36:44

I'll take the manuscript with me and read it on the train,

0:36:440:36:48

and try and get to grips with it - again.

0:36:480:36:51

To just see if it's as...bad as I think it is.

0:36:530:36:57

MUSIC: "Miss You" by The Rolling Stones

0:37:030:37:08

HUM OF CONVERSATION

0:37:080:37:10

I love Ian Rankin.

0:37:150:37:17

I love his stories. They're very gritty, very real.

0:37:170:37:20

-When you know Ian, he's such a nice man!

-You go, "It'll be fine."

0:37:200:37:24

Then you turn the page and go, "No, it really isn't fine!

0:37:240:37:29

"There's another body!" And the creative way they've died.

0:37:290:37:32

-You care about the characters.

-You do.

-So he makes the people real.

0:37:320:37:37

His characters are people that are flawed, but that you're rooting for.

0:37:370:37:42

He's wonderful at plotting.

0:37:420:37:46

If you want to start reading any crime fiction, possibly any novel,

0:37:460:37:50

start with Ian Rankin.

0:37:500:37:52

30% of my head is here and 70% is in Edinburgh, writing the new book.

0:37:520:37:57

So it's a kind of weird experience.

0:37:570:37:59

On the train, I was reading the new book, the manuscript,

0:37:590:38:03

thinking what's got to happen next.

0:38:030:38:05

This is just tearing me away from something I really want to be doing.

0:38:050:38:09

'I'm not a huge fan of big gatherings of people.

0:38:150:38:19

'I'm a bit claustrophobic.

0:38:190:38:21

'There are people trying to get you to go to their festival,

0:38:210:38:25

'journalists who are after a little titbit for the next day's paper.

0:38:250:38:29

'You're trying to say hello to everybody, not drink too much so you don't get stupid.

0:38:290:38:35

'Most of my brain is being taken up with this book.'

0:38:350:38:39

It's still a weird roller coaster. One day I'm enjoying it.

0:38:440:38:47

The next I'm not. One day I think it's OK. The next, it's dreadful.

0:38:470:38:52

We're two-thirds of the way through the book and there's still stuff I don't know what's going to happen.

0:38:520:38:57

I've got a good idea what's going to happen in the next five or ten pages, but not the pages after that.

0:38:570:39:02

There's lots to be afraid of - the fear of the next page.

0:39:080:39:12

The next day when you go, "I've no idea what's going on here."

0:39:120:39:16

I panic and think, "I really don't know what's going on.

0:39:160:39:19

"I don't feel in control of this process."

0:39:190:39:22

And you've just got to kind of hang on and get through it.

0:39:220:39:27

-MIRANDA:

-The role of his family during this period is trying to get out from under his feet.

0:39:280:39:33

It's organising the February break - away!

0:39:330:39:36

Where am I going to take the kids away for Easter?

0:39:360:39:39

It's sort of staying out of his way while he gets on with it.

0:39:390:39:43

It just takes an awful lot of psychological and emotional energy to do it.

0:39:430:39:48

It's not that he is a person who doesn't care about his family

0:39:480:39:52

and is not going to interact with us on a human basis.

0:39:520:39:56

It's just how he is - now.

0:39:560:39:59

It will be a passing phase.

0:39:590:40:01

Well, here it is.

0:40:100:40:12

The first draft is finished.

0:40:130:40:16

It's ragged, very ragged.

0:40:170:40:21

I'm not at all happy with the last 30 or 40 pages.

0:40:220:40:27

This is where the magic happens!

0:40:270:40:30

This is where the magic happens. (SIGHS)

0:40:300:40:34

Doesn't feel like magic at the moment. It feels like hard work.

0:40:360:40:40

With a lot more hard work ahead.

0:40:400:40:42

Hey ho.

0:40:490:40:50

I've seen first drafts in worse shape, I just can't think when.

0:40:530:40:57

'It may be rough and ready, but Ian does finally have his plot.

0:40:590:41:03

'The book sees Rebus travelling up and down the A9,

0:41:030:41:07

'in search of missing persons,

0:41:070:41:09

'who may or may not be murder victims.'

0:41:090:41:13

Inverness, where some of the investigation takes place.

0:41:130:41:17

Then we go up the A9,

0:41:170:41:20

and across to Rosemarkie.

0:41:200:41:24

Drive past Tain and we come to this place here,

0:41:240:41:28

Edderton.

0:41:280:41:30

'There's something else about this book,

0:41:310:41:33

'a special treat for Rankin fans.

0:41:330:41:36

'Ian's decided to bring together his two leading men,

0:41:360:41:40

'Rebus and Malcolm Fox, for the very first time.'

0:41:400:41:43

Oh, boy! You get a very different version of Malcolm Fox from the two Malcolm Fox novels.

0:41:430:41:49

In The Complaints and The Impossible Dead,

0:41:490:41:52

Malcolm comes across as a really nice guy.

0:41:520:41:55

When you start to see him through Rebus's eyes you go, "What a shit!

0:41:550:41:59

"He's just tried to destroy our pal, Rebus. Why would he do that?

0:41:590:42:03

"Rebus is the good guy." So that's quite fun.

0:42:030:42:07

'The book is still far from finished.

0:42:080:42:11

'There are characters who need fleshing out,

0:42:110:42:13

'sub-plots and red herrings to be added.'

0:42:130:42:17

Here, for example, that's all notes on things that I want to happen.

0:42:170:42:21

The same with this, stuff that I want to add to the second draft.

0:42:240:42:28

'But by now, surely, Ian has solved the most important mystery of all.

0:42:290:42:33

'Or has he?'

0:42:330:42:35

I don't think I've ever written a book where, so close to the end,

0:42:350:42:39

I'd no idea who the offender was.

0:42:390:42:45

I got some crazy ideas in the course of writing this book as to who the killer might be.

0:42:450:42:50

Here we go. Page 273, which is... nine pages from the end of the first draft.

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I'm going, "Oh! Another possibility.

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"This guy could be the killer." LAUGHS

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That just... It's not right. It's not right.

0:43:020:43:06

MUSIC: "Midnight Rambler" by the Rolling Stones

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'Before he starts on the second draft, Ian must turn detective

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'and embark on a fact-checking mission,

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'retracing Rebus's journey up the A9.'

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It's become quite important to me that I get the details right.

0:43:260:43:30

Didn't use to be in the early days.

0:43:300:43:32

Now that I'm making a good living telling lies about real professions,

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I feel I owe it to them to get the details of their jobs right.

0:43:360:43:40

Perth to Inverness, 114 miles.

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There's an awful lot of this stuff I could get by going online.

0:43:450:43:50

What does the outside of the police station in Inverness look like?

0:43:500:43:54

I could stick in the postcode and find out.

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That's not the same as standing in front of it.

0:43:570:44:00

I need to imprint it in my head.

0:44:000:44:03

Which means taking the road trip myself, the trip Rebus would have taken.

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# ..Talkin' 'bout the midnight rambler, yeah

0:44:070:44:10

# The one you never seen before... #

0:44:100:44:13

'One of the major scenes in the book

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'takes place in the small seaside village of Rosemarkie.'

0:44:190:44:24

So Rebus goes down onto the beach.

0:44:270:44:29

"What is it you're afraid of?" Rebus inquired, receiving no answer.

0:44:290:44:34

Magrath had hauled himself onto the roadway.

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The note I've made is, "Does he need to climb?

0:44:360:44:40

"Check when I'm at Rosemarkie." He wouldn't be able to climb up.

0:44:400:44:43

He's a retired police officer, around 70 years old.

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There's no way he's climbing over the wall.

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He would be taking the steps.

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So, I can get that tiny detail in for my own satisfaction.

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The more research you do, the more you want to show people you've done the research,

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so you put too much of it in, and that slows down the story.

0:45:020:45:06

Having done this road trip, it'll probably boil down to half a page.

0:45:060:45:10

Day two of the road trip, and the weather has changed spectacularly.

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The first thing to do is to get on to the A9,

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start heading north again until we get to Edderton.

0:45:230:45:27

Hopefully, I don't need to make too many changes to what I've written,

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i.e. the landscape will be as I have imagined it.

0:45:310:45:34

'The clue that links the missing persons

0:45:360:45:39

'is that every one of them sent a photo of a wild Scottish landscape

0:45:390:45:43

'from their mobile phone at the time of their disappearance.

0:45:430:45:47

'A public appeal to identify the landscape leads Rebus to the tiny village of Edderton,

0:45:480:45:54

'where a police sniffer dog makes a shocking discovery.'

0:45:540:45:58

I'd say this is ideal. These woods work well as the place where the bodies are.

0:46:000:46:05

This is ridiculous. It's almost exactly as I'd imagined it would be

0:46:090:46:13

from looking at a map, just a name on a map,

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and thinking, "If I go up that road, maybe there'll be fields,

0:46:160:46:20

"hills in the distance."

0:46:200:46:22

I mean, I've described this already in the book.

0:46:220:46:25

This is spot-on. Even the weather, because when Rebus comes up here, the weather is minging.

0:46:250:46:31

The police need to wear wellies.

0:46:310:46:33

Even the fact that you can see tyre tracks.

0:46:330:46:36

In the book, a search is being made of the fields,

0:46:360:46:40

but stuff's found in the woods next to the fields by a sniffer dog.

0:46:400:46:44

-ACTOR:

-'"What is it?" Rebus asked, trying to catch his breath.

0:46:490:46:53

'In answer, the handler directed the torch to a spot just beyond Ruby.

0:46:530:46:58

'The dog turned her head in the same direction, licking her chops.

0:46:580:47:03

'The earth had been disturbed

0:47:030:47:05

'and Rebus knew what it was he was being shown.

0:47:050:47:09

'An all too human hand jutting up from the makeshift grave.'

0:47:090:47:14

I mean, genuinely, you could leave a body here in these woods

0:47:170:47:23

and I have my doubts it would be found for years and years and years.

0:47:230:47:27

A spot that could be very peaceful and beautiful, but also,

0:47:270:47:31

can be a place where bad people have done bad things.

0:47:310:47:35

And hidden the evidence.

0:47:350:47:37

I'm not an outdoorsy type at all.

0:47:430:47:45

I'd much rather be in a pub or a cafe or a cinema or a book shop

0:47:450:47:50

than be clambering over hills going "fol-da-ro, fol-da-ra".

0:47:500:47:53

It's just not my thing, but one of the things I've got to do

0:47:530:47:56

is to get inside the character's head, rather than my head.

0:47:560:48:00

What would Rebus see when he looks at that?

0:48:000:48:03

I'm not sure he'd be seeing much at all. He's thinking about the case.

0:48:030:48:07

He's thinking about his next cigarette, his next pint or nip of whisky.

0:48:070:48:12

He's probably thinking, "How far am I from the nearest pub?

0:48:120:48:16

"This is probably the furthest I've ever been from a pub in my entire life," he's thinking.

0:48:160:48:21

That's not bad. I might actually put that in the book. CHUCKLES

0:48:210:48:25

Rebus might be wondering if this is the furthest he's ever been from a pub in his entire life.

0:48:250:48:31

'Maybe he's getting low on cigarettes, as well.'

0:48:310:48:34

TURNS RECORDER OFF There you are. That kind of stuff.

0:48:340:48:38

Tiny nuggets which will definitely make it into the book.

0:48:380:48:41

Anyway, I suppose I'd better get to it.

0:48:410:48:43

'With the research done,

0:48:480:48:50

'Ian will spend the next few weeks working on his second draft.

0:48:500:48:54

'The deadline for the book is now just eight weeks away

0:48:550:48:59

'and still, no-one has seen a word.'

0:48:590:49:02

Agent and publisher, at the moment, know the title.

0:49:020:49:06

And they know that, at the moment, Rebus is the main character.

0:49:060:49:10

That's all they know. They don't know the plot. YOU know more than they do.

0:49:100:49:15

So sharing this with us isn't something you'd normally do?

0:49:150:49:19

No. I mean, I might talk to my wife, if I was having a problem.

0:49:190:49:23

She would say, "What's the new one about?" I'd tell her it's a road trip, missing persons.

0:49:230:49:27

The past, mortality. But in the main, I don't talk to anyone.

0:49:270:49:31

In the past, my publishers haven't had much of an idea what the book is about until I deliver it to them.

0:49:310:49:36

'The return of Rebus is too juicy a publicity opportunity to miss.

0:49:390:49:43

'Ian's publishers have decided to make a big splash

0:49:430:49:47

'and announce Rebus's return

0:49:470:49:49

'at the Hay-on-Wye Festival.'

0:49:490:49:51

We know that you do a book a year.

0:49:510:49:53

You must be working on something different now.

0:49:530:49:57

I wondered what you were up to, what you were planning.

0:49:570:50:01

I started writing the book in January this year.

0:50:010:50:04

It'll come out at the beginning of November.

0:50:040:50:07

And, um... It is Rebus.

0:50:070:50:09

He's back. He's back.

0:50:100:50:12

APPLAUSE

0:50:120:50:14

I'm afraid we have run out of time.

0:50:160:50:19

Thank you, Ian, for talking to us.

0:50:190:50:21

SHE LAUGHS Thank YOU.

0:50:210:50:24

And thank you, audience.

0:50:240:50:26

'Oh, THAT seemed to go well.

0:50:290:50:32

'But back in Edinburgh, things don't look quite so rosy.'

0:50:410:50:45

Two pages dedicated to the fact that it's going to be a disaster,

0:50:470:50:51

by Tiffany Jenkins, who hasn't read the book yet.

0:50:510:50:53

"Who can blame Ian Rankin for milking it?

0:50:530:50:57

"Maybe it's time someone had a word. Rebus, you're past it. Stop embarrassing yourself."

0:50:570:51:01

I've no idea why she thinks...

0:51:010:51:04

There is isn't an argument there as to why Rebus shouldn't come back.

0:51:040:51:09

If it's a crap book, he probably shouldn't come back.

0:51:090:51:12

There's got to be somebody who says, "That's going to be rubbish!"

0:51:120:51:16

It's never, "That is rubbish." It's, "That's going to be rubbish.

0:51:160:51:20

"I've not read it. I probably won't read it. I'm not a fan of the books.

0:51:200:51:24

"I've read very few of them. It's going to be rubbish."

0:51:240:51:27

'Buoyed by all the positivity in the press, Ian ploughs on.

0:51:290:51:35

'He's been writing for five months,

0:51:360:51:39

'and the publisher's deadline has loomed ominously into view.'

0:51:390:51:43

So, here is the third draft printed out.

0:51:450:51:50

You're thinking, "Well, that's it, then. That's the hard work done."

0:51:500:51:55

Nothing could be further from the truth.

0:51:550:51:58

When you write a book, when you write it for your own entertainment

0:51:580:52:01

and you finish it to your satisfaction,

0:52:010:52:04

it is the perfect novel, the best novel that's ever been written.

0:52:040:52:08

Or the best novel in your genre that's ever been written, or the best novel that you've ever written.

0:52:080:52:13

You start showing it to people, and that's when it ceasing to be the perfect novel.

0:52:130:52:18

PHONE RINGS

0:52:250:52:28

Hello?

0:52:280:52:30

Fuck off. Fuck off!

0:52:300:52:32

Fucking PPI helplines!

0:52:330:52:35

I wouldn't be surprised if the next villain in my book

0:52:370:52:40

is someone who runs a PPI helpline.

0:52:400:52:43

Every day, I get three or four automated messages.

0:52:430:52:46

And if you swear at them they don't go away.

0:52:460:52:49

'Ian has now had feedback on his third draft from his editor.

0:52:510:52:55

'Caroline Oakley has been editing Rankin's books for 20 years.

0:52:560:53:01

'Even though she no longer works for Orion,

0:53:010:53:04

'she still edits one book a year, at Ian's insistence.'

0:53:040:53:09

"Hi, Ian. Much enjoyed this one, but I do have a couple of things for you to consider.

0:53:090:53:13

"I think the prologue could be tightened up and not so much of an obvious info dump." Thanks(!)

0:53:130:53:18

I'm known for my comments being quite blunt and quite pointed.

0:53:180:53:22

I think Ian appreciates that because what he gets from me is straight.

0:53:220:53:26

She doesn't like what I've done with Malcolm Fox in the book, basically.

0:53:260:53:31

My big issue with it was the whole character of Malcolm Fox,

0:53:310:53:35

as he is portrayed in this book.

0:53:350:53:37

As his editor, I'm not just looking at this book,

0:53:370:53:40

I have in my head the previous books.

0:53:400:53:44

Also, I'm thinking about what comes next. Where do we go from here?

0:53:440:53:47

Fox does not come over as a particularly rounded character.

0:53:470:53:52

And I think for readers who've grown to know and like him,

0:53:520:53:56

they love him from the previous two books,

0:53:560:53:59

to me, he didn't make sense.

0:53:590:54:01

"You're right to make this a Rebus novel, not Rebus and Fox,

0:54:010:54:05

"but Malcolm's got to make sense in context."

0:54:050:54:08

I mean, I think it does make sense in context.

0:54:080:54:11

It is frustrating to me that, after all these years,

0:54:110:54:14

I still don't seem to know what I'm doing, you know.

0:54:140:54:18

Having written 27, 28, 30 books,

0:54:180:54:21

um... I still need "an amount" of editing.

0:54:210:54:26

One of the reasons I like Ian is he can be a bit of a curmudgeon,

0:54:260:54:30

he can be a bit awkward.

0:54:300:54:32

He's just a bloke. He doesn't come with any airs or graces.

0:54:320:54:36

You take him as you find him.

0:54:360:54:38

I like his honesty and I think you can read that honesty in the books.

0:54:380:54:42

It's not flashy, in a great literary sense.

0:54:420:54:46

But it's real.

0:54:460:54:48

To achieve real when you're writing fiction is bloody difficult to do.

0:54:480:54:52

She's a good editor and she's been editing me for donkey's years.

0:54:520:54:56

And we...

0:54:560:54:58

This happens, book after book, this stuff that she will ask me to do

0:54:580:55:02

that I really don't feel like doing.

0:55:020:55:05

I look at the book again and think, "She's right about that."

0:55:050:55:08

Or sometimes, "No, still don't agree with her."

0:55:080:55:11

TYPING

0:55:160:55:18

It's finessing it, smoothing it down with very fine sandpaper.

0:55:180:55:21

That's the stage I'm at now, I think.

0:55:210:55:24

If I was an absolute perfectionist,

0:55:240:55:26

I would just keep refining and refining forever and a day, and the book would never be published.

0:55:260:55:32

There comes a point where you've got to say, "I can do no more."

0:55:320:55:36

And it's time to let it go.

0:55:360:55:38

It's, um...

0:55:400:55:42

five to one in the morning.

0:55:420:55:45

I promised my publisher

0:55:450:55:47

I would have the rewrites done by the end of June.

0:55:470:55:50

And I have, literally, just finished the book.

0:55:510:55:55

Um...

0:55:560:55:58

Again!

0:55:580:55:59

Literally, just finished the book again and possibly for the last time, who knows?

0:55:590:56:05

So you finished the book.

0:56:110:56:13

Yeah. Ish. LAUGHS

0:56:130:56:16

-Today?

-Yeah, 1am. 11 hours ago.

0:56:160:56:19

I got to the very end of the rewrite. The ending had a lot of work done on it.

0:56:190:56:24

So today, when you guys leave,

0:56:240:56:27

I will, um, get on to my email and send it off to my publisher in London,

0:56:270:56:32

my agent in London, my film and TV agent in London,

0:56:320:56:35

my agent in New York and my publisher in New York. Five people will get it.

0:56:350:56:39

How does it feel to have written the book, to have finished it?

0:56:390:56:43

It's always good to have an idea for a book, a theme, a story you want to tell,

0:56:430:56:49

and bring it through to completion and be happy with it, that's great.

0:56:490:56:54

All the fear that I had during the writing of the first draft has gone.

0:56:540:56:58

But now, I'm kind of bored with it. There are no surprises for me in that story any more.

0:56:580:57:03

I'm ready to move on to the next project, to the next set of characters, to the next theme.

0:57:030:57:08

-I just don't know what it is yet.

-You REALLY don't know?

-I've no idea!

0:57:080:57:12

-You seem quite cheerful about that.

-If I run out of stories, I'll start to panic.

0:57:120:57:17

But I've not run out yet.

0:57:170:57:19

'The book is written

0:57:220:57:24

'and now, the serious matter of press and publicity begins.'

0:57:240:57:28

-I'm hoping I've got the right key.

-So am I!

0:57:280:57:32

# Police and thieves in the streets

0:57:350:57:39

# Oh, yeah!

0:57:400:57:42

# Scaring the nation with their

0:57:420:57:44

# Guns and ammunition... #

0:57:450:57:48

A look of resignation that you may not be getting out of this.

0:57:490:57:53

# ..Fighting the nation with their

0:57:550:57:57

# Guns and ammunition... #

0:57:580:58:00

-Have you got the key?

-Somewhere.

-Somewhere?

0:58:020:58:05

I've got a plane to catch!

0:58:050:58:07

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