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# I open my mouth to the Lord | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
# And I won't turn back, no | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
# I will go, I shall go | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
# To see what the end is gonna be. # | 0:00:23 | 0:00:30 | |
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Few people have transformed the way that we think about race and culture | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
as the poet and writer Maya Angelou. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Nearly 50 years after the publication of her first book, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
her cry for a world of equality and tolerance | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
is as powerful and relevant as ever. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
And what's remarkable is that her writing | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
was directly based on her life. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
And what a life. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
A trailblazing activist, who worked alongside Malcolm X | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
and Martin Luther King, Maya Angelou was also a singer, a dancer, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
an actress, and made her directorial movie debut at the age of 70. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
So she was a consummate performer. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
And I think that whatever else it is, this is a life lived on stage. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
Lift up your heart and say, simply, "Good morning." | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
You have a woman who was like a tree trunk, you know what I mean? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
She's like a redwood, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
and she has deep, deep roots | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
within American culture. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
I would hate to see her just remembered for one thing. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
The Phenomenal Woman is not just the title of something she wrote, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
it's who she was. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Just before she died, in 2014, Angelou was captured on film. | 0:01:54 | 0:02:01 | |
And tonight, Imagine presents the extraordinary story | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
of an American legend. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
The caged bird sings with a fearful trill | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
of things unknown but longed for still | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
and his tune is heard on the distant hill | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
for the caged bird sings of freedom. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
The free bird thinks of another breeze | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
and the trade winds soft through the sighing trees | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn bright lawn | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
and he names the sky his own. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
But a bird that stalks down his narrow cage | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
can seldom see through his bars of rage | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
his feet are tied his wings are clipped | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
so he opens his throat to sing. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
One of the first memories I have, I was three years old, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
and my brother Bailey, five. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
My father and mother had agreed to disagree, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
and neither of them wanted the problems of having two toddlers. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
So they put us on a train and sent us from Los Angeles to Arkansas, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
with tags on our arms. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
No adult supervision. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Pullman car porters took us off trains, put us on other trains. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
And we arrived in Stamps, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
a little village in Arkansas about the size of this room. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
I thought it was the worst thing, when I declared my mother dead, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
so that I wouldn't have to long for her. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
Yes, that was terrible rejection. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
My brother has never recovered. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
My grandmother owned the only black-owned store | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
in that little village. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
And she had one more child, my Uncle Willie. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
She was the child of a former slave. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Amazing. I think my grandmother started teaching me to read | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
that afternoon when we arrived. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
My brother Bailey taught me, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
"Just learn everything, put it in your brain. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
"You're smarter than everybody around here. Except me, of course." | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
In my memory, Stamps is a place of light, shadow, sounds, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:52 | |
and enchanting odours. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
The yellowish acid of the ponds and rivers. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
The deep pots of greens cooking for hours with smoked or cured pork. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
And above all, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
the atmosphere was pressed down with the smell of old fears. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
Is that all the size of the bridge? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
I was terribly hurt in this town, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and vastly loved. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Uncle Willie was crippled, his whole right side was paralysed. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
My uncle Willie taught me my times-tables. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
He'd say, "Now, sister, do your fourses, do your sevenses, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
"do your elevenses." I learned my multiplication tables exquisitely. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
'And when "the boys", as they were euphemistically called, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'when the Klan would ride down the hill toward the store...' | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
Maya? Bailey Jr? | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Both of you. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
'We had to hide Uncle Willie.' | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
The potatoes, the onions. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
'Cos a white girl could say, "Well, he made an attempt to touch me." ' | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
It just shouldn't be. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
'We had to help Uncle Willie to get down in the bin. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
'And we'd cover him with potatoes and onions.' | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
And I could just picture his tears going into the eyes of the potatoes. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
The Klan would ride up in front of the store. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
Bailey and I would peek out the window. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Tall horses that looked so big, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
they didn't look like horses you see every day. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
Big guns. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
So one of my fantasies when I was, oh, seven, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
six or seven, was that suddenly there'd be a... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Somebody would just say "Shazam," | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and I would be white and I wouldn't be looked at with such loathing | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
when I walked in the white part of town, which I had to do. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
You really wished... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
..either that you could dry up in a moment | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
and just shrivel up like that. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
And, instead of that I'd put my head up and walk through, grit my teeth, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:39 | |
surviving. But, my God, what scars does that leave on somebody? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
I wouldn't... I don't even dare examine it myself. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
And when I reached for... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
..the pen... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
-To write? -To write. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I have to scrape it across those scars to sharpen that point. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
If growing up is painful for the Southern black girl, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
being aware of her displacement is the rust on the razor | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
that threatens the throat. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
It is an unnecessary insult. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
And then at about six or seven, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
my father took me and my brother, Bailey, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
back to St Louis to my mother, to her family. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
She had left California after they separated. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
The Negro section of St Louis in the mid '30s had all the finesse | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
of a Gold Rush town. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Prohibition, gambling and their related vocations | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
were so obviously practised | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
that it was hard for me to believe that they were against the law. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
My mother had record players, and jazz and blues songs. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:08 | |
It was amazing, and she danced. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
She wore lipstick. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
And, oh, my grandmother would never do anything like that. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
My mother's boyfriend was intoxicated with my mother. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
In his rage at his inability to control her | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
and have her when he wanted her, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
he raped me. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
I was seven. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
The act of rape is the matter of the needle giving | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
because the camel cannot. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
The child gives because the body can and the mind of the violator cannot. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
I told the name of the rapist to my brother who was nine. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
I said, "I can't tell you his name because he said he would kill you." | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
He said, "I won't let him." | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
So I believed him. The man was put in jail | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
for one day and night and released, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
and a few days later the police came to my mother's mother's house | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
and said the man had been found dead | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
and it seemed he'd been kicked to death. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
My seven-year-old logic told me that my voice had killed a man. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
So I stopped speaking for five years. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
I clamped my teeth shut, I'd hold it in. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
If I talked to anyone else, that person might die too. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
I had to stop talking. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
My mother's people tried to woo me away from my mutism, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
but they didn't know what I knew. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
I think they wearied of the presence of this sullen, silent child. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
So they put me and Bailey back on the train, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
back to Stamps to my grandmother. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
And one of the first things I remember was my grandmother | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
braiding my hair, and my hair was huge. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
She said, "Sister, Mama don't care these people say you must be a idiot | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
"or you must be a moron cos you can't talk. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
"Mama don't care. Mama know when you and the Good Lord get ready. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
"Sister, you're going to be a preacher, you're going to be | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
"a teacher, you're going to teach all over this world." | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I used to sit there and think, "This poor, ignorant woman, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
"doesn't she know I will never speak?" | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
There was a lady in town, Mrs Flowers, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and she would take me to her house. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
She made lemonade and tea cookies, delicious. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
And she'd serve me and she knew I didn't speak | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and she'd read one of the poets to me. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
She'd done this with me for three or four years. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
And finally, I was at her house one day and she said, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
"Maya, you don't like poetry. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
"You'll never like it until you speak it, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
"until you feel it come across your tongue, over your teeth, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
"through your lips, you will never like it." | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
So finally I went under the house where there used to be chickens | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
and the dirt was soft like powder. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
And I tried poetry. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Now, to show you how out of evil there can come good, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
in those five years I read every book in the black school library. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:54 | |
I read all the books I could get from the white school library. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
I memorised James Weldon Johnson, Paul Laurence Dunbar, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
Countee Cullen and Langston Hughes. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
I memorised Shakespeare, whole plays. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
50 sonnets. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I memorised Edgar Allen Poe, all the poetry. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
I had Longfellow, I had Guy de Maupassant. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
I had Balzac. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
When I decided to speak... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
..I had a lot to say. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
I have written a poem for a woman who rides a bus in New York City. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
She's a maid. She has two shopping bags. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
When the bus stops abruptly, she laughs. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
If the bus stops slowly she laughs. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
I thought, "Mmm, uh-huh." | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Now, if you don't know black features, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
you may think she's laughing | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
but she wasn't laughing, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
she was simply extending her lips and making a sound. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Ha-ha-ha. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
I said, "Oh, I see, that's that survival apparatus." | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
Now let me write about that to honour this woman | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
who helps us to survive. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
70 years in these folks' world | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
The child I works for calls me girl | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
I say, "Ha-ha-ha, yes, ma'am" | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
for working's sake. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
I'm too proud to bend and too poor to break, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
So, hmm-hmm-hmm, I laugh | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
until my stomach ache, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
When I think about myself. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
My folks can make me split my side, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I laugh so hard, ha-ha-ha, I nearly died. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
The tales they tell sound just like lying, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
They grow the fruit, but eat the rind. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
Hmm, I laugh, ha-ha-ha, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
until I start to crying, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
When I think about myself. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Ha-ha-ha. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Ha-ha, ha-ha, ha-ha-ha. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
A painting of Maya is to be placed | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
in the Smithsonian Institute. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
It's quite an honour. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
Thank you, thank you. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-Ms Angelou? -Yes, sir? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-Oh, my goodness gracious! -Hey, you girl! | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
Oh, honey. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
I wish my grandmother, who died 50 years ago, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
I wish she was alive | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
and could see this. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
Wow! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
Oh, my land. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
We have made tremendous gains. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Not nearly as much as we want to. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
If I had that power, I would make everybody an African-American. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
At least for a week. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Know what it's like. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
Know what it's like to get on a bus or any public conveyance | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and have people look at you as if you have just stolen | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
the baby's milk. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
Look at you and turn their face away. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
And still saying, "I forgive you." | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
I'm not starting any... I'm not starting any race riots. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
I forgive you. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
And I forgive myself. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
My lord. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
-AUDIENCE MEMBER: -Do it. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
Huh? That's it. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
My son says, "Do it, Mom." | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
I want to acknowledge the presence of my son. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
The greatest thing that ever happened to me was to give birth | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
to Guy Johnson, and to have the privilege | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and the pleasure and the fear and all of that | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
of raising that black boy in a white country. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
I was 16, living in San Francisco, I was almost six foot. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:25 | |
And there was a boy who used to say, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
"Hey, Maya when you going to give me some of that long brown frame?" | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
And so one day I saw him in the street and I said, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
"Say, you still want...?" He said, "What?" | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
I said, "Let's go somewhere." So he had the keys to a friend's house... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
..and we went there and we had sex. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
And I thought, "Is that all there is?" | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
People making such a big miration. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I had watched people in the movies | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and they were just so pleased to be in each other's arms. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
I didn't feel any of that. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
And I ask him, "Is that all there is?" | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
And he said, "Yeah." | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
So I said "OK, bye," and I went home. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
And a month later I found out I was pregnant. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
My mother never made me feel guilty, she never made me feel ashamed. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
She asked me, "Do you love the boy?" I said "No." She asked, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
"Does he love you?" I said, "No." | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
She said, "We're not going to ruin three lives. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
"You're going to have a beautiful baby." | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
And that's just the way she treated him, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
and me. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
And then a fellow started coming, he had been a sailor - | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
Tosh Angelos, a Greek. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
I didn't think that white and blacks would get together like that. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
But I liked him, he was bright. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
He had read as much as I had read. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
He had read the Russian writers. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
And he liked my son. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
When he asked me to marry him, his mother said, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
"You can't marry her, she's black." | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
He said, "I noticed that first." | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
My mother was so disgusted with me, she moved a 14-room house | 0:19:07 | 0:19:14 | |
two days before the wedding, 500 miles away. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
14 rooms. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
But then she fell for him. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
He was a good husband, he was a good father, she fell for him. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
So a few years later when I said to her, "I'm leaving him", she said, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
"How can you? How dare you?" | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
But I won't stay in a relationship if there's no love there. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
In his nine years of schooling, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
we had lived in five areas of San Francisco, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
three townships in Los Angeles, New York City, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Hawaii and Cleveland, Ohio. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
I followed the jobs, and I had taken Guy along. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
What I remember most when I think of a childhood memory is the fact that | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
she would come to school wearing her African clothes and her hair natural | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
and some idiot kid in the class would say, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
"Yo' momma from Lost Africa." | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
And I'd have to pop him! | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
And then I would come home and I would ask my mother, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
"Don't you have a sweater, skirt outfit? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
"One of those Penny's things?" | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
And she would say to me, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
"This is your history. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
"You come from kings and queens." | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
And I would look at her and I would think, "Yes, it's unfortunate, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
"my mother's demented." | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
My mother was working in nightclubs at the time. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I got jobs in strip joints. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
I didn't strip, but then I didn't have to. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
I had a costume that was about big enough to put in the palm of my hand | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
like that. So I didn't have much on to strip. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Bands always wanted to play for me because I danced. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
The other strippers just walk out and... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
# Tea for two and two for tea... # | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
And take off something and throw it in the audience. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
But I would hit it. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
And so I met people who invited me out. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
And I said, "Have you heard calypso?" | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
And they said, "No." | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
So I sang some calypso, just a cappella. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
And they said, "You should come and open in the Purple Onion." | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
So if I would sing, I would make three times the money. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
And so I stopped dancing as a rule and started singing. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Maya Angelou! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
I talked some friends of mine | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
into going to this little club, late '50s. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
And what I remember is Maya making her entrance. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Very tall... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
..very grand. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
No shoes. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
# Mo and Joe run the candy store | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
# Telling fortunes behind the door... # | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
That she was an original is certainly an understatement. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
# Run, Joe... # | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
She was exact and refined with her movements, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
She was limbs. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
I mean, she was a beautiful Giacometti sculpture. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
At the time that was the trend in music, Afro-Caribbean, calypso, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
and Maya was known as Miss Calypso. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
# Always busy in the marketplace, makes me dizzy in the marketplace | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
# 'Tis a wonder to me to constantly see | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
# All that happens in the marketplace | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
# That flower girl has an innocent face, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
# The most well-bred in the marketplace | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
# She's a voodoo girl from dusk till dawn | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
# She'll cast a spell just for fun... # | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
The voice was no great voice, but she knew how to use it. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
# Just a wonder to me to constantly see | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
# All that happens in the marketplace. # | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
We had a dance troupe in Los Angeles called the Lester Horton Dancers | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
and we heard that we were to be on a bill with Maya Angelou in Las Vegas. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
Now this was like '56, '57. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
At that time Lena Horne, Belafonte, Sammy Davis, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
they were all big name black performers but they couldn't mingle | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
in the lounges. They had to perform, go back to their room. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
So when we get to Las Vegas, we realise that we're confronting this, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
you know, we can't go here, we can't go there. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
I mean, we were a young company. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
So we looked to Maya for guidance and we followed her lead. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
And she didn't protest overtly, she just, you know, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
I guess made mental notes that this has got to be corrected. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
MUSIC: Summertime by George Gershwin | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Well, Porgy and Bess came and performed in San Francisco | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
and someone told me they're looking for a dancer. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
So, I thought, "Hmm", | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
and they would pay much more and I'd get a chance to travel around | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
the United States. And maybe get a chance to go to Europe. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I auditioned for them and they accepted me. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
I sang the role, Ruby, but the truth is, I couldn't really sing, I mean, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
I could sing but I wasn't a trained singer, I really was a dancer. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
And at least once every two or three weeks, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
one of the singers would say to me, "Maya, I'm sorry to tell you, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
"but you flatted that G or you flatted that A." | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
I didn't even know I was singing in the alphabet, I just sang the role. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
It was a wonderful experience... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
..because we went all over the world. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
The horrible thing for me was I had left my son. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
I'd left my son. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
And I called him at least once a week | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
and we'd talk and cry on the phone. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
It was terrible. I felt so guilty. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
He didn't know how I loved him. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
And finally, when I got home and saw Guy Johnson... Oh, my land. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
The reunion was so sweet. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
There was a play opening in New York and I was asked to come to New York | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
and to audition. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
My mother had a chance to do the understudy in Hello, Dolly! | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
with Pearl Bailey as the lead. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
For my mother it would have meant living continuously in New York | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
without leaving me for at least a year. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
And it was regular money. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
The director and the producer both loved her... | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
..but Pearl Bailey came back and said, "Oh, no, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
"I ain't going to have this big, old ugly girl be my understudy." | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
There are very few times in my life that I remember my mother crying... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
..because this meant she had to go back out on the road | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
and find other work. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
It was devastating... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
..because I knew all the sacrifices my mother made to keep me. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
35 years later, when Pearl Bailey was getting a lifetime award | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
and they asked her, "Who do you want to give it to you?" | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
She said, "Maya Angelou." | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
And guess who gave it to her and never said a damn thing?! | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
For the next year and a half, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
save for my short, out-of-town singing engagements, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
I began to write. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
At first I limited myself to short sketches, then to song lyrics, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
then I dared short stories. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
I had met Langston Hughes in California, and John Killens. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
And they both said, because I was writing, they said, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
"Come to New York, come to New York and join the Harlem Writers Guild. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
"Let us criticise you and tell you how good you are or how bad you are | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
"and we'll see." | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Playwrights and writers | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
have all gone through the Harlem Writers Guild. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
People asked what was going on? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
We were just writing, trying to get our work written and published. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
Then you come to the group and what you want is the criticism. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
And the criticism is always constructive. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
You don't want to go out and tear your thing up | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
and throw yourself into the river, you know. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
And of course Lewis Michaux had Michaux's bookstore | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
on 125th and 7th. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
And that was a very, very important place. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
Maya, Rosa Guy, Louise Meriwether... | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
Max Roach, Paule Marshall was there in that group. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
I must say that we loved bars, all of us loved bars. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Me, Rosa, Maya - we are bar-stool people. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Right on the corner of 96th Street and Columbus Avenue was a grill, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
and James Baldwin's brother worked there as a bartender. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
James Baldwin was never in the Harlem Writers Guild. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
He was, you know, in France, but any time he would be in town, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
he would be at that bar. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
I first met James Baldwin in Paris in the early '50s. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
I was with Porgy and Bess. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
And I met him, he was small and... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
..hot, dancing himself. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
I mean, his movements were always the movements of a dancer. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
So when I met Jimmy, well, we liked each other. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
I remember the respect that they gave one another. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
The excitement that they both are expressing themselves, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
they're both brilliant people in a room, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
after a couple of drinks saying what they really feel. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I'm a kind of poet and I come out of... | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
..a certain place, a certain time, a certain history. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-You know? -Right. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
And the people who produced me... | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
James Baldwin was merely my mother's friend, Jimmy. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
I had no idea the majesty of his work at the time. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
What I recall is my mother coming home after conversations with him, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
and talking about what she was going to do | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
as a result of having met with him. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
What Jimmy was, was angry. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
He was angry at injustice, at ignorance, at exploitation, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
at stupidity, at vulgarity. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Yes, he was angry. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
I don't know what most white people in this country feel, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
I can only conclude what they feel | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
from the state of their institutions. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
I don't know whether the labour unions and their bosses | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
really hate me. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
That doesn't matter, but I know I'm not in their unions. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
I don't know if the Board of Education hates black people | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
but I know the textbooks they give my children to read | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
and the schools that we have to go to. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
Now, this is the evidence. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
You want me to make an act of faith on some idealism | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
which you assure me exists in America, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
which I have never seen. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
It was the awakening summer of 1960 | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
and the entire country was in labour. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
Something wonderful was about to be born and we were all going to be | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
good parents to the welcome child. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Its name was freedom. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
We have no alternative but to keep moving with determination. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
We've gone too far now to turn back. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Dr King came to New York to speak, at Riverside Church, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:07 | |
and I went with friends and we were so moved. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
He was just... He was irresistible. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
And his idea of non-violence was absolutely | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
what I had been waiting for. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
I had lived around so much violence and been myself violated, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
and when Reverend King came and said | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
we can change the world with non-violence, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
it was like pouring water on a parched desert. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
I needed that, and I was ready for it. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
And so I and Godfrey Cambridge, a comedian, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
wrote a piece called Cabaret for Freedom to raise money | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
and we gave it to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
in New York. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
Bayard Rustin suggested that I be asked to come in | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
as the northern coordinator | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
And Reverend King came, and he reminded me of my brother. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
Small, beautiful speaking voice. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
So when Dr King sat in my office, he became a big brother. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
I became a little girl again. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
When Harlem became politicised, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
really politicised in the '50s and '60s, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
it was so amazing. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
It was a crazy time in Harlem. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Mr Michaux's bookshop was right in the middle of everything. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
He'd have 500 people out in front of his bookshop as they'd be talking. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
And I didn't know it was the precursor... | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
..to Malcolm. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
When America says "In God we trust", | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
she means she trusts in that white God who showed her how to steal | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
this country from the dark skinned Indians, who showed her how to | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
kidnap you and me and bring us over here and make us slaves. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
When I use the term God, I'm speaking about our God, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
the God of our forefathers, the black man's God. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
I saw her with Malcolm X from time to time and people like that. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
But I remember her being very angry, very angry, to tears. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
Because she was fighting the devil, the white devil as she called it. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
It was the time of afros, dashikis, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
a re-establishment of the African and American black roots. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
Many African Americans made friends with Africans who had come to | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
United Nations. They got whisky and drinks and invited African Americans | 0:34:46 | 0:34:52 | |
to the parties. It was wonderful. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
We made friends. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Now that Africa is getting independent and in a position | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
to create its own image, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
those of us in the west look at the African image | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
and see how positive it is and we begin to identify with it. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
We become proud of our African blood, our African heritage. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
And your western imperialists and colonialists | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
consider this to be a grave threat. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
And then we heard that Patrice Lumumba from the Congo | 0:35:14 | 0:35:21 | |
had been killed. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
NEWSREEL: This was Patrice Lumumba in June, 1960. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
The premiere of the new Congo Republic | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
waiting for the ceremonies that would mark Congolese independence. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
Less than two weeks in the future lay the army mutiny | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
that would plunge the Congo into near chaos. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
Colonel Joseph Mobutu, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
whose forces seize Lumumba at the beginning of December. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
And the African Americans took it as if Patrice Lumumba was in fact | 0:35:44 | 0:35:50 | |
an African American right off 125th Street. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
We started asking people in Harlem | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
to come down to United Nations and protest. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
People who had never been down to Times Square, people born in Harlem, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
full of anger at the way Africans were treated on their homeland. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
We filled the General Assembly at United Nations. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Adlai Stevenson was at the desk. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
We believe that the only way to keep the cold war out of the Congo | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
is to keep the United Nations in the Congo. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
And, at one point, Rosa Guy's sister screamed, "Murderer!" | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
at the top of her voice. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
Whereupon all the people got up and started fighting. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
NEWSREEL: The speech is interrupted | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
by a well organised demonstration in the gallery. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
Most of the group are American Negros, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
members of African nationalist groups in New York. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
My mother taught me a love of justice... | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
..a love of doing what's right. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
She said to me, "If you really have something to protest, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
"you should be on the streets." | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
My mother was leading this demonstration and I was with her. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
We were protesting the damage done to people in the South | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
who had gone down there for the freedom riots, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
and we had about 400 people. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Three blocks away, the mounted police pull into the street... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
..in formation. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
People in the demonstration began going to the sidewalk. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Because in those days they ran over people, they stomped them, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
trampled them and left their bodies in the street. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
And I was looking at my mother and she... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
We kept on. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
And I said, "Ma, come on, you're going to get us killed, let's go." | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
She turned to me and she said, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
"One person standing on the word of God is the majority." | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
I looked at her and I thought, "You really have gone crazy!" | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
The sergeant in charge started to walk past us. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
My mother pulled out this big hairpin out of her headband | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
and stuck it in the sergeant's horse. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
The sergeant's horse neighed and reared up, the sergeant fell off, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:35 | |
the people came back from the sidewalk and we finished that march. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
Whew, hadn't seen courage like that. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
Brought right up to my face. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
She took me on a trip or two. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
I first saw Maya in 1961 at the St Mark's Theatre in the Village | 0:38:56 | 0:39:03 | |
when she played in Genet's The Blacks. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
The Blacks was a piece that really shook everyone, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:13 | |
it started avant-garde theatre in this country. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
Genet set aside six actors who were black, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
six actors who were also black but wore white masks | 0:39:23 | 0:39:29 | |
representing the whites. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Maya played the white queen. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
The combination of Queen Elizabeth | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
and all of the white female royalty of Europe. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
One of her lines was, "I am the lilywhite queen of the west, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
"centuries and centuries of breeding." | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
And it erased the consciousness of race to such a degree | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
that it's called the theatre of the absurd. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Racism is absurd. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
It's interesting that black people can play white people, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
the good and the bad, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
because we've had centuries of having to study their faces, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
understand that a smile could mean "You get flogged today." | 0:40:08 | 0:40:14 | |
Or a frown can mean, "I'm selling you off to Mississippi", you see? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
The whites, of course, reigned above, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
they were on a ramp that was six feet into the air. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
The blacks were on the ground. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
And each one of the whites would come down the ramp and offer | 0:40:31 | 0:40:38 | |
their objections to blacks even existing. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
And as it happened, they were killed by the blacks, each one of them. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:50 | |
And as they descended, the blacks ascended... | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
..and they took power. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Some whites got up and walked out. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Some blacks got up and walked out. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
One man was running so fast, he fell downstairs and broke his leg. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
One woman fainted, a man had a heart attack. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Well, I think it brought to mind for the first time, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
to many white people, that they were responsible | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
for most of our anguish because of their ignorance. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:30 | |
I remember walking out of that play and being ashamed of being white. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
I was so taken by its polemic. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
At that time Maya was searching desperately for her African roots, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
upon whose shoulder she stood. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Maya met Vus Make at the United Nations - | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
an attraction ensued. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
I went to John Killens' house one evening | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
and there was a South African, a freedom fighter. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Now I've always been a patsy for men who could think. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:06 | |
Oh, goodness. And this man just opened up his brain | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
and he was fabulous. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Well, I thought it was very odd. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
But I remember when she was introduced to him, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
here was this Maya up here at eight feet tall and here he was, right, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
and she took him by the collar and she... | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
And kissed him in the mouth and said, "You're going to be my... | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
"..husband." | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
And he was. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
SHE CONTINUES LAUGHING | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Our plane landed at Cairo on a clear afternoon, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
and just beyond the windows, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
the Sahara was a rippling beige sea which had no shore. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
He was working for the Pan Africanist Congress, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
the South African Freedom Movement. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
You had South African exiles all over the place in those days. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
He was the representative in Egypt. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Maya and Vus lived in Cairo... | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
..where she wrote for newspapers. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
But they could not sustain the relationship. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
Vus was trying and so was I, | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
but neither of us was able to infuse vitality into our wilting marriage. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:32 | |
We had worn our marriage threadbare, and it was time to discard it. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
I knew that other women would be in that house before the sheets | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
lost my body's heat. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
I was living in Cairo and my son had finished high school. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
He was 17. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
He wanted to go to the university in Ghana. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
Their first day there, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
friends took him out for a drive and let him see the countryside. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
And a truck ran into his car. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
A doctor studied the x-rays and she said, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
"A hard sneeze and he could be dead," because his neck was broken. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
I broke my neck in Cape Coast. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
In those days there was no hospital in Cape Coast. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
A couple in a Volkswagen saw the accident, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
they piled me in the back and drove me four-and-a-half hours to Accra, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:40 | |
where I woke four days later. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
I was told that he would never walk again and I said, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
"With the help of God, my son will walk out of the hospital." | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
He was in intensive care so I was there and I said, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
"I see you walking." | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
He said "Mom, that which I feared is upon me. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
"Mother, I have to ask you something no-one should ever ask a mother. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
"You're my best friend. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
"Mother, if there's no recovery, pull the plug, let me go." | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
I started shouting, "Then I see you talking, laughing, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
"I see you swimming." | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
He said, "Mom, please, there's some sick people in this place. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
"Don't make so much noise." | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
And about the sixth day, a nurse came in, she said, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
"Miss Angelou, come with me." | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
She pulled the blankets off my son's feet | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
and his toes went like that. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
It virtually destroyed her. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I think she felt if she was there she could have prevented it | 0:45:54 | 0:45:59 | |
for some reason or another. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I had some pictures I had taken at the picnic, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
really the last day of Guy's full physical health | 0:46:05 | 0:46:11 | |
and so I made copies for her, I thought she might like to have them. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
And when I showed them to her, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
she became very upset and she just pushed them away. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
Her reaction let me know how painful that still was for her, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
so many years later. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
She decided to stay in Ghana. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
I was already living at the YWCA hostel and I knew they had space. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
Ghana was exciting at that time. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
Kwame Nkrumah was the president and he projected | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
the African personality. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
He had studied at Lincoln University in the United States and he had | 0:46:53 | 0:46:59 | |
sort of extended an invitation. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
There were African Americans who had moved to Ghana. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
Dr WB DuBois, one of the great thinkers of our time, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
had come to Ghana to live. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
Then I went to work in the university. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
There were so many Ghanaians who has studied abroad. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
Many people came to teach at the university. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
You could get into any kind of discussion on any subject | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
in Ghana at the time, in-depth conversations. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
Maya was very well known in Ghana. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
She also liked to entertain. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
So we had parties at the house. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
Constant parties. We had one hell of a good time. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
You could call people and ask them to come over for breakfast and they | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
would come in tens and twenties and you could make hotcakes and waffles | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
and some people had never had them before. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
It was just... It was a great place to live. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
When Malcolm X came to Ghana, the African Americans who were there, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
we gathered around him like his children. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
And he liked me and we liked each other. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
I met Malcolm X at my mother's house in Ghana. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
My mother went out and bought about six chickens, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
and she rarely fried chicken, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
and I was almost sorry to meet Malcolm X | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
because the chicken was so good and I had to share it with him. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
But the thing about Malcolm is, for a person of his stature, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:42 | |
for me to ask a question and for him to think about it and then come back | 0:48:42 | 0:48:47 | |
with an answer... | 0:48:47 | 0:48:48 | |
..captured my heart. And his answers were so phenomenal. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:57 | |
We wanted to meet so he could tell us what was going on in the States | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
and what his plans were. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:03 | |
And we found out that his quest was to find an African government | 0:49:03 | 0:49:10 | |
that would take the United Nations genocide convention | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
and make a charge against the United States. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
African nations and Asian nations and Latin American nations look very | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
hypocritical when they stand up in the United Nations condemning the | 0:49:24 | 0:49:29 | |
racist practices of South Africa and saying nothing in the UN about the | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
racist practices manifest every day against Negros in this society. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:39 | |
This is Maya with me, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
and our delegation went into the American Embassy in Ghana | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
to deliver our petition condemning the United States. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
Have you had any commitment from any nations in Africa | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
to support your...? | 0:49:53 | 0:49:54 | |
I would rather not say at this time. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
In fact, we couldn't get any African government to bring any charge | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
against the US because of the American money, the cash. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:06 | |
He wanted to see as much as he could see of the African continent. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
He said in Ghana, "I've gone to Mecca, I've taken the Hajj. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
"And I have met men with hair blonde as corn silk | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
"and their faces as white as milk, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
"and I have been able to call them brother. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
"So, obviously, I was wrong. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
"All white people are not blue eyed devils." | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
Now it takes a lot of courage to say to the world, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
"You remember everything I said last week? | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
"Well, I don't believe that any more. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
"I want to have enough sense to see the new thing and enough courage | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
"to say the new thing." | 0:50:54 | 0:50:55 | |
I loved him so much. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Maya came back because she wanted to work with Malcolm. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
So she was shattered that he was murdered | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
before she really had a chance to talk to him. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
For me, I had two heroes. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
Malcolm and... | 0:51:22 | 0:51:23 | |
..Dr King. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
They were the people... | 0:51:26 | 0:51:27 | |
..that I would've looked to... | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
..to lead. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:32 | |
Martin Luther King... | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
..was killed on my birthday. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
I had worked for him as his northern representative and he had asked me | 0:51:42 | 0:51:47 | |
to come back and I was going to go back and then... | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
NEWSREADER: Dr Martin Luther King, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
the apostle of nonviolence and the Civil Rights Movement, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
has been shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Police rushed the 39-year-old negro leader to a hospital where he died | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
of a bullet wound in the neck. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
It just, just knocked me out. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
And I fell into mutism again. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
I just... | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
..just couldn't bring myself. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
And finally after about five days, James Baldwin came to my house. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
Bam-bam-bam on the door, "Open this hmm-hmm-hmm door. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
"I'll call the police." | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
So I opened the door and he came in, he saw I was really unkempt | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
and my house was a mess and I've always left a pretty house and... | 0:52:37 | 0:52:43 | |
He said "Go take a shower, put some clothes on, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
"I'm taking you somewhere." | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
We went to Jules Feiffer's house, the cartoonist. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:53 | |
And Jules Feiffer and Judy Feiffer, his then wife, told stories, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
and Baldwin told stories. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
And Baldwin asked me, "Tell a little bit about your grandma. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
"Tell a little bit about Stamps, Arkansas." | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
So I started by saying, "In Arkansas, racism was so prevalent | 0:53:05 | 0:53:12 | |
"that black people couldn't even eat vanilla ice cream." | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
And so it made everybody laugh! | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
And they asked me to tell that story, tell another. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
She was absolutely captivating, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
and she just told these stories in a very matter of fact... | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
There was nothing show off-y about it. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
Judy Feiffer, the next morning, called Random House | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
and talked to Bob Loomis. This was 1968. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
She called me one day and she said, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
at their house the night before they had a party and this woman, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
Maya Angelou, was there. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
Now in that group there are some wonderful talkers. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
Jules... I think Philip Roth was at that party. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
But Judy said this woman told the best stories. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
They were stories of adventure that she had. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
They were stories about her career in nightclubs in California. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:10 | |
On and on and she said, "She's got a book in her of some kind." | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
Well, I hate to tell you how many times I've heard that. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
But I called Maya, she was in California, I believe, then. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
I brought up the subject, she was not warm to it. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
He said "Would you write an autobiography?" | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
I said "No, thank you, no, no, I don't... | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
"I write poetry and I have plays." | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
I had written a ten-episode series for PBS. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:42 | |
So I went out to San Francisco to produce it. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
Hello, my name is Maya Angelou. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
'And Bob Loomis called me about three or four times. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
'Oh, he harassed me for about six months.' | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
Now, in those days, the younger people and somewhat unknown people | 0:54:59 | 0:55:04 | |
did not write books. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
I called several more times... | 0:55:06 | 0:55:07 | |
..got nowhere. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
And finally, he said, "Miss Angelou, I won't call you again." | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
I said, "That's good." He said, "Because, you know, | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
"writing autobiography as literature is almost impossible." | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
I said, "Well... | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
"Well, in that case, I'll try." | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
And, believe it or not, she started to write. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
It needed some work, but it was only because, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
in a true sense, she was an amateur. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
Amateur, you know, means someone who loves something. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
It doesn't mean you're not good. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
And we also decided that although she'd done a lot in her career, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
that she should try, maybe, just to write about her childhood. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
So, she began. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
"When I was three and Bailey four, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
"we had arrived in the musty little town, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
"wearing tags which instructed that | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
"we were Marguerite and Bailey Johnson, Jr." | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
She was able to go way back and remember, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
in a very meaningful way, things that, I think, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
she'd never told anybody. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
When we first published Caged Bird, it was a new genre, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:28 | |
she was a new writer. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
Sales at first were not what I thought they should be. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
It turned out to be a landmark book, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
still a touchstone for a lot of people. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
I felt it was... | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
me, I felt it was a girl sitting next to me. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
It reflected my own mother's life, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
which was a life of neglect and mistreatment and abuse. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
And I gave a copy to my mother. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
I met Bill Clinton and one of the first things we talked about | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
was that book. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:05 | |
When I read it, I couldn't believe that these things happened to her | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
and that she was free enough to talk about them. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
I'd never heard of another | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
black woman, young girl, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
who had been raped. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
So I read those words and thought, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
"Somebody knows who I am." | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
Here is a black woman who takes off the cuffs. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
Here's a black woman | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
who writes her story. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
It was a very important literary feat, because it said - | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
it's OK for a black woman to say what happened to her, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
in public, in a literary form. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
What she did, and it's not easy, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
was find a way of replicating who and what she was on paper. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:58 | |
And a lot of writers can't do that. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
I thought... | 0:58:01 | 0:58:02 | |
from the time she was very young, | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
she was always paying attention. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
She just didn't miss much. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
And that's a great gift, because if you're really paying attention | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
and then you can put it into words, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
you can empower other people as they absorb your experience. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:22 | |
She said, "You know, sometimes when I'm acting, | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
"I see myself acting. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
"But when I write, I'm lost completely in what I'm doing. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 | |
"There's nothing else but that." | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
In fact, she even hibernates when she writes, she often rents a room. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
I know she likes to, you know, | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
have that room in the hotel, | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
where, you know, she takes her, her cards, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
that yellow legal pad. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
All of her life, Maya wrote in long hand. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
She'd sit down with a Bible and a thesaurus | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
and she makes draft, after draft, after draft, after draft. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:59 | |
Just a desk, a chair, a pen | 0:58:59 | 0:59:02 | |
and maybe some Johnny Walker. | 0:59:02 | 0:59:04 | |
Jack Daniels. | 0:59:04 | 0:59:06 | |
Scotch. | 0:59:06 | 0:59:07 | |
She's a singer, she's a writer, | 0:59:07 | 0:59:10 | |
she's a poet, and yet the books are not precious, | 0:59:10 | 0:59:13 | |
they do not sound contrived or too ornate, they're very simple. | 0:59:13 | 0:59:19 | |
That's what's so hard to do and do it well. | 0:59:19 | 0:59:24 | |
'Autobiography is awfully seductive. | 0:59:24 | 0:59:27 | |
'Once I really got into it, I realised that I was following | 0:59:27 | 0:59:31 | |
'a tradition established by Frederick Douglass, | 0:59:31 | 0:59:36 | |
'which is the slave narrative. | 0:59:36 | 0:59:38 | |
'Speaking in the first person singular, | 0:59:38 | 0:59:41 | |
'talking about the third person plural. | 0:59:41 | 0:59:44 | |
'Always saying "I", meaning "we." ' | 0:59:44 | 0:59:47 | |
Her language base was classical. | 0:59:48 | 0:59:52 | |
See, Maya didn't read modern poetry until later, | 0:59:53 | 0:59:56 | |
and that's a lot of people who come from country do that, | 0:59:56 | 1:00:00 | |
cos they're not exposed to modern poetry! | 1:00:00 | 1:00:02 | |
Reading the older writers mean that your language | 1:00:02 | 1:00:06 | |
is going to be archaic. | 1:00:06 | 1:00:08 | |
And there's nothing wrong with writing Caged Bird | 1:00:09 | 1:00:13 | |
in a language that's partially Victorian and biblical. | 1:00:13 | 1:00:17 | |
Everybody in the world uses words, | 1:00:19 | 1:00:24 | |
uses, "How are you? Fine, thank you." | 1:00:24 | 1:00:26 | |
Verbs, adverbs, adjectives, nouns, pronouns. | 1:00:26 | 1:00:30 | |
The writer has to take these most known things | 1:00:30 | 1:00:34 | |
and put them together in such a way that a reader says, | 1:00:34 | 1:00:38 | |
"I never thought of it that way before". | 1:00:38 | 1:00:42 | |
It's a challenge. | 1:00:43 | 1:00:44 | |
And I know many writers, and I'm one, who says, | 1:00:44 | 1:00:47 | |
"Lord, are you sure you wanted me to do this?" | 1:00:47 | 1:00:50 | |
At that point in her life, Maya was, you know, | 1:00:50 | 1:00:53 | |
climbing up the ladder of success. | 1:00:53 | 1:00:55 | |
I mean, she was being acknowledged as a writer. | 1:00:55 | 1:00:59 | |
She had met Paul | 1:00:59 | 1:01:02 | |
and Paul was very supportive of her. | 1:01:02 | 1:01:04 | |
Years ago, I fell in love with a man, who, I'm happy to say, | 1:01:06 | 1:01:11 | |
was in love with me. | 1:01:11 | 1:01:13 | |
And we lived together in great harmony, | 1:01:13 | 1:01:16 | |
out in California. | 1:01:16 | 1:01:19 | |
But then he wanted to get married, | 1:01:19 | 1:01:21 | |
and I don't care much for the institution, | 1:01:21 | 1:01:24 | |
but he insisted. | 1:01:24 | 1:01:27 | |
And so, I called Jimmy. | 1:01:27 | 1:01:29 | |
He said, "Does your reluctance to marry him have anything | 1:01:29 | 1:01:33 | |
"to do with his being white?" | 1:01:33 | 1:01:34 | |
So, I said... | 1:01:36 | 1:01:38 | |
"..Maybe." | 1:01:39 | 1:01:40 | |
He said, "But his being white didn't keep you from falling in love | 1:01:42 | 1:01:45 | |
"with him?" | 1:01:45 | 1:01:46 | |
I said, "No." He said, "But it keeps you from making a public statement | 1:01:46 | 1:01:50 | |
"of your love, is that it?" | 1:01:50 | 1:01:52 | |
I said, "I suppose so. | 1:01:52 | 1:01:54 | |
"People - I mean, my people - you know, what will they say?" | 1:01:54 | 1:01:59 | |
He said, "Maya Angelou, you talk about courage all the time. | 1:01:59 | 1:02:04 | |
"You tell everybody else to dare to love, | 1:02:04 | 1:02:06 | |
"but you don't have the courage. | 1:02:06 | 1:02:09 | |
"Are you a hypocrite?" | 1:02:09 | 1:02:11 | |
And he talked to me harder than he'd ever talked to me before. | 1:02:11 | 1:02:15 | |
"So, what the hell you going to do, girl?" | 1:02:15 | 1:02:18 | |
I said, "I'm going to marry the man, what to do?" | 1:02:18 | 1:02:22 | |
I finally married my own husband. | 1:02:22 | 1:02:23 | |
My mother has a theory that most people marry | 1:02:23 | 1:02:26 | |
other people's husbands. | 1:02:26 | 1:02:27 | |
How many husbands? | 1:02:27 | 1:02:28 | |
I've had enough. | 1:02:28 | 1:02:29 | |
THEY LAUGH | 1:02:29 | 1:02:31 | |
But I finally have my own. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:33 | |
-I'm a woman! -You's a woman now. | 1:02:33 | 1:02:35 | |
I'm a woman, and I was looking for a man. | 1:02:35 | 1:02:39 | |
What is your husband's name? | 1:02:39 | 1:02:40 | |
Paul du Feu. | 1:02:40 | 1:02:42 | |
du Feu. | 1:02:42 | 1:02:43 | |
Paul du Feu was a very interesting guy. | 1:02:46 | 1:02:51 | |
He had come out of England, out of the construction industry, | 1:02:52 | 1:02:57 | |
and he was a writer. | 1:02:57 | 1:02:59 | |
He had a tendency to drink... | 1:02:59 | 1:03:02 | |
..to his fill. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:05 | |
He had written a book called | 1:03:07 | 1:03:08 | |
Let's Hear It For The Long-legged Women. | 1:03:08 | 1:03:11 | |
A lot of people thought, because he was with Maya, | 1:03:11 | 1:03:14 | |
that the book was about Maya. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:17 | |
But it just so happened that his significant other | 1:03:17 | 1:03:19 | |
before Maya had been another six foot woman, Germaine Greer, | 1:03:19 | 1:03:25 | |
who was England's leading feminist. | 1:03:25 | 1:03:29 | |
My mother was just beginning to become prominent, | 1:03:29 | 1:03:33 | |
and they bought a number of houses | 1:03:33 | 1:03:36 | |
where they just tore them apart and reconstructed them. | 1:03:36 | 1:03:40 | |
I mean, the time I went up to see them, | 1:03:40 | 1:03:43 | |
he was under the house, repairing things, you know. | 1:03:43 | 1:03:47 | |
And Maya was being Miss Homemaker. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:50 | |
You know, she was in the kitchen, which is her sanctum, really. | 1:03:50 | 1:03:55 | |
She loves the kitchen. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:56 | |
Paul would roast goats and pigs, and they had parties. | 1:03:56 | 1:04:02 | |
I thought that her relationship with Paul was the most compatible | 1:04:03 | 1:04:07 | |
that I witnessed over the years. | 1:04:07 | 1:04:09 | |
He seemed very caring. | 1:04:09 | 1:04:12 | |
She seemed at peace with herself when they were together. | 1:04:12 | 1:04:18 | |
I could see Maya looking at Paul, with a look that was just... | 1:04:19 | 1:04:24 | |
You can't describe it any other way but, | 1:04:24 | 1:04:27 | |
"Wow, this woman is really taken with this guy, you know." | 1:04:27 | 1:04:30 | |
They were solid. | 1:04:30 | 1:04:32 | |
I mean, they had their differences, | 1:04:32 | 1:04:35 | |
but they communicated, you know, in a good way. | 1:04:35 | 1:04:38 | |
So, when I heard that it was over... | 1:04:38 | 1:04:40 | |
..I was shocked. | 1:04:42 | 1:04:43 | |
Maya was on the road and, increasingly, | 1:04:46 | 1:04:50 | |
Paul didn't go with her. | 1:04:50 | 1:04:51 | |
Paul drank increasingly and Maya, you know, | 1:04:53 | 1:04:57 | |
she could turn up one too. | 1:04:57 | 1:05:00 | |
Paul said to me, personally, | 1:05:00 | 1:05:02 | |
that he didn't feel there was room for anybody else, | 1:05:02 | 1:05:06 | |
besides the written word, in Maya's life. | 1:05:06 | 1:05:10 | |
My mother has not had the good fortune to know... | 1:05:13 | 1:05:17 | |
..love... | 1:05:18 | 1:05:19 | |
..that lasts a long time. | 1:05:21 | 1:05:23 | |
One thing they cannot prohibit, | 1:05:29 | 1:05:32 | |
the strong men coming on. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:36 | |
The strong men | 1:05:38 | 1:05:40 | |
getting stronger. | 1:05:40 | 1:05:42 | |
Strong men, | 1:05:43 | 1:05:45 | |
stronger, stronger, stronger. | 1:05:45 | 1:05:49 | |
# I've been downhearted, baby... | 1:05:49 | 1:05:52 | |
# Ever since the day we met. # | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
What a pity. | 1:05:58 | 1:05:59 | |
'I was doing a score on Love of Ivy.' | 1:05:59 | 1:06:02 | |
# You know our love is nothing but the blues, woman. # | 1:06:02 | 1:06:06 | |
'We had BB King for two songs and I needed a lyricist.' | 1:06:06 | 1:06:11 | |
# Baby, how blue can you get? # | 1:06:11 | 1:06:14 | |
And so, I saw her in New York and asked her, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
would she be interested in doing the lyrics for BB King | 1:06:17 | 1:06:20 | |
for this movie, with Sidney Poitier | 1:06:20 | 1:06:22 | |
and Abbey Lincoln? | 1:06:22 | 1:06:23 | |
And she said, "Sure," and she wrote the lyrics for two songs. | 1:06:23 | 1:06:27 | |
One was a big hit. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:28 | |
I'm going to ask you one last question | 1:06:28 | 1:06:30 | |
and then we'll be finished. | 1:06:30 | 1:06:32 | |
The question is - what is the blues? | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
Now, wait, Mr King. | 1:06:35 | 1:06:38 | |
One of the things I'm interested in here | 1:06:38 | 1:06:40 | |
is the relationship of the Blues to African music. | 1:06:40 | 1:06:44 | |
I didn't discover till Maya confessed it to me, | 1:06:44 | 1:06:47 | |
that her and BB... | 1:06:47 | 1:06:50 | |
that the relationship went past lyric writing. | 1:06:50 | 1:06:52 | |
We've heard that ladies will cry when something happen to them. | 1:06:52 | 1:06:56 | |
A man won't cry on the outside, but he usually cry inwardly. | 1:06:56 | 1:07:00 | |
It might be one of those funny type of things that you... | 1:07:00 | 1:07:02 | |
I feel that you may laugh at me about it, | 1:07:02 | 1:07:04 | |
so I'll get out to myself and I sing about it | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
and eventually it becomes a song. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:10 | |
You see that's poetry. | 1:07:10 | 1:07:11 | |
That shows that you're not only a poet in your music. | 1:07:11 | 1:07:14 | |
No, it's true. | 1:07:14 | 1:07:16 | |
And I said, "If I knew that, I would have told you to stay away, | 1:07:16 | 1:07:18 | |
"because Blues singers give the Blues, they don't get the Blues, | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
"they give the Blues." | 1:07:21 | 1:07:23 | |
# How blue can you get, woman? # | 1:07:23 | 1:07:27 | |
And he gave her some blues too, cos he gave her a rough time. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:31 | |
# The answer's right here, in my heart. # | 1:07:31 | 1:07:36 | |
When I was young, my father would... | 1:07:38 | 1:07:41 | |
He would shout, "Come here, bring the kids, bring the kids!" | 1:07:42 | 1:07:46 | |
and we'd go running in. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:47 | |
And he'd go, "Look at this, coloured girl on TV!" | 1:07:47 | 1:07:50 | |
And he'd just be sitting there, looking at it. | 1:07:50 | 1:07:54 | |
At that point, the main images that we were getting on the screen | 1:07:54 | 1:07:58 | |
were people that I didn't recognise. | 1:07:58 | 1:08:01 | |
But Roots was as if my family | 1:08:01 | 1:08:04 | |
was on the television. | 1:08:04 | 1:08:06 | |
And I don't mean my ancestral family but my real family. | 1:08:07 | 1:08:11 | |
Now that you are a man, what will you do? | 1:08:11 | 1:08:15 | |
The Roots mini-series comes out in '77. | 1:08:15 | 1:08:18 | |
Black directors, black actresses, | 1:08:19 | 1:08:24 | |
and here's Maya, the grandmother of Kunta Kinte. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:28 | |
You can grow as tall as a tree and I will still be your grandmother! | 1:08:28 | 1:08:34 | |
The '70s and the '80s was a great time for Maya. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:38 | |
Maya was cooking. | 1:08:38 | 1:08:39 | |
I mean, Caged Bird was made into a movie. | 1:08:41 | 1:08:45 | |
Maya became the first black woman member | 1:08:45 | 1:08:47 | |
of the Directors Guild Of America. | 1:08:47 | 1:08:49 | |
"Woo, tell me about it!" | 1:08:49 | 1:08:51 | |
She had this series of autobiographies come out. | 1:08:51 | 1:08:54 | |
Just smokin', you know. | 1:08:54 | 1:08:56 | |
And poetry - Pray My Wings, Heart Of A Woman, | 1:08:56 | 1:09:00 | |
Singin & Swingin & Getting Merry Like Christmas. | 1:09:00 | 1:09:03 | |
A singer, dancer, actress, screenwriter, | 1:09:03 | 1:09:06 | |
editor, lecturer, author... | 1:09:06 | 1:09:08 | |
Joy was a word that Maya wrote in her autograph, | 1:09:16 | 1:09:20 | |
tens of thousands of times. | 1:09:20 | 1:09:22 | |
I'd be with her and there'd be lines in the gymnasium, | 1:09:22 | 1:09:26 | |
wrapping around inside the gymnasium. | 1:09:26 | 1:09:29 | |
I always knew that what Maya Angelou held as a poet and a writer | 1:09:29 | 1:09:35 | |
was something that the world needed to feel and experience. | 1:09:35 | 1:09:39 | |
I was asked, would I consider writing a poem | 1:09:44 | 1:09:47 | |
for President Clinton's inauguration? | 1:09:47 | 1:09:50 | |
And I said, "Yes". | 1:09:50 | 1:09:52 | |
And then I started to pray and ask everybody, | 1:09:52 | 1:09:54 | |
"Little children, what do you think?" | 1:09:54 | 1:09:56 | |
I wanted a poem, nobody had done a poem since Robert Frost. | 1:09:56 | 1:10:01 | |
Once I made that decision, I didn't really think about anybody else. | 1:10:01 | 1:10:06 | |
Maya Angelou had spent a lot of her childhood in Stamps, Arkansas, | 1:10:06 | 1:10:10 | |
which is about 25 miles from Hope, where I was born. | 1:10:10 | 1:10:14 | |
My grandfather had a little grocery store | 1:10:14 | 1:10:17 | |
in a predominantly African-American neighbourhood. | 1:10:17 | 1:10:21 | |
When I read I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings, | 1:10:21 | 1:10:24 | |
I knew exactly who she was talking about and what she was talking about | 1:10:24 | 1:10:28 | |
in that book. | 1:10:28 | 1:10:31 | |
That's a contradiction in terms, | 1:10:31 | 1:10:33 | |
-"public poem." -Yes. | 1:10:33 | 1:10:34 | |
Poem is private and interior and all that. | 1:10:34 | 1:10:38 | |
And people, as soon as the statement was made to the press, | 1:10:38 | 1:10:42 | |
people would see me in the supermarket or on planes and say, | 1:10:42 | 1:10:45 | |
"How's the poem going?" | 1:10:45 | 1:10:47 | |
-Gosh. -"Finish that poem yet?!" -Yeah, exactly. | 1:10:47 | 1:10:50 | |
I knew she got me, she understood the time we were living in, | 1:10:50 | 1:10:54 | |
she understood the world we were living in. | 1:10:54 | 1:10:57 | |
And she knew what could be our undoing as well as our unchaining. | 1:10:57 | 1:11:02 | |
Now, we had no idea what she was going to say. | 1:11:02 | 1:11:05 | |
And Bill didn't come with any set of directions, like, | 1:11:05 | 1:11:07 | |
"Well, I'd like you to talk about this and I'd like you | 1:11:07 | 1:11:09 | |
"to talk about that." He just said, "I want you to write a poem | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
"and deliver it at my inauguration". | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
But I knew she'd make an impression. | 1:11:14 | 1:11:17 | |
She was big, and she had the voice of God. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:21 | |
A Rock, a River, a Tree | 1:11:21 | 1:11:25 | |
Hosts to species long since departed, | 1:11:25 | 1:11:30 | |
Marked the mastodon... | 1:11:30 | 1:11:33 | |
And the minute she started talking | 1:11:33 | 1:11:36 | |
you could just feel the change rolling across the crowd | 1:11:36 | 1:11:41 | |
and everybody started listening. | 1:11:41 | 1:11:44 | |
But today, the Rock cries out to us, | 1:11:44 | 1:11:47 | |
Come, you may stand upon my back... | 1:11:47 | 1:11:52 | |
The rock comes from a 19th century gospel song. | 1:11:52 | 1:11:56 | |
# Oh, I went to the rock to hide my face | 1:11:56 | 1:11:59 | |
# Rock cried out...# | 1:11:59 | 1:12:01 | |
No hiding place down here. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:04 | |
Across the wall of the world | 1:12:04 | 1:12:06 | |
A River sings a beautiful song... | 1:12:06 | 1:12:08 | |
# I'm gonna lay down my burden | 1:12:08 | 1:12:11 | |
# Down by the riverside | 1:12:11 | 1:12:13 | |
# To study a war no more. # | 1:12:13 | 1:12:17 | |
Your armed struggles for profit | 1:12:17 | 1:12:20 | |
Have left collars of waste upon | 1:12:20 | 1:12:22 | |
My shore. | 1:12:22 | 1:12:24 | |
Yet, today, I call you to my riverside, | 1:12:24 | 1:12:27 | |
If you will study war no more. | 1:12:27 | 1:12:30 | |
And once you had that? | 1:12:30 | 1:12:31 | |
Then, I could talk about all of us. | 1:12:32 | 1:12:35 | |
There is a true yearning to respond to | 1:12:35 | 1:12:37 | |
The singing River and the wise Rock. | 1:12:37 | 1:12:40 | |
So say the Asian, the Hispanic, the Jew, | 1:12:40 | 1:12:44 | |
The African, the Native American, the Sioux, | 1:12:44 | 1:12:48 | |
The Catholic, the Muslim, the French, the Greek, | 1:12:48 | 1:12:51 | |
The Irish, the Rabbi, the Priest, the Sheik, | 1:12:51 | 1:12:55 | |
The Gay, the Straight, the Preacher, | 1:12:55 | 1:12:57 | |
The Privileged, the Homeless, the Teacher. | 1:12:57 | 1:13:00 | |
They all hear | 1:13:00 | 1:13:01 | |
The speaking of the Tree. | 1:13:01 | 1:13:03 | |
Each of you, descendant of some passed | 1:13:03 | 1:13:05 | |
On traveller, has been paid for. | 1:13:05 | 1:13:09 | |
Bought, sold, stolen, arriving on a nightmare, | 1:13:09 | 1:13:13 | |
Praying for a dream. | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
Give birth again | 1:13:15 | 1:13:16 | |
To the dream. | 1:13:16 | 1:13:18 | |
'It was wonderful.' | 1:13:18 | 1:13:19 | |
Sculpt it into | 1:13:19 | 1:13:20 | |
The image of your most public self. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:22 | |
I thought it was monumental. | 1:13:22 | 1:13:25 | |
Because it was inclusive. | 1:13:28 | 1:13:29 | |
It was understandable. | 1:13:31 | 1:13:33 | |
It was the whole package. | 1:13:33 | 1:13:35 | |
I mean, it was a phenomenal woman at a moment in history where she | 1:13:35 | 1:13:39 | |
belonged with a president with whom she could relate. | 1:13:39 | 1:13:43 | |
It just pulled it all together. | 1:13:43 | 1:13:46 | |
Here, on the pulse of this new day | 1:13:46 | 1:13:49 | |
You may have the grace to look up and out | 1:13:49 | 1:13:52 | |
And into your sister's eyes, and into | 1:13:52 | 1:13:55 | |
Your brother's face, your country | 1:13:55 | 1:13:59 | |
And say simply | 1:13:59 | 1:14:01 | |
Very simply | 1:14:01 | 1:14:02 | |
With hope | 1:14:02 | 1:14:04 | |
Good morning. | 1:14:04 | 1:14:06 | |
She just did it. I mean, it was just breathtaking. | 1:14:12 | 1:14:16 | |
That poem is kind of like an eternal gift to America. | 1:14:18 | 1:14:23 | |
And it'll read well 100 years from now. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:25 | |
Right after she delivered the inaugural address poem, | 1:14:30 | 1:14:34 | |
so many requests started coming in. | 1:14:34 | 1:14:38 | |
If she lives another lifetime, | 1:14:38 | 1:14:41 | |
she wouldn't be able to fulfil the requests | 1:14:41 | 1:14:45 | |
to speak at universities and colleges. | 1:14:45 | 1:14:48 | |
That is some... | 1:14:48 | 1:14:50 | |
Woo! | 1:14:50 | 1:14:52 | |
# My name's Maya, that's a fine name | 1:14:52 | 1:14:55 | |
# It's not your name but it's fine just the same. # | 1:14:55 | 1:14:58 | |
Dr Maya Angelou. | 1:14:58 | 1:14:59 | |
Maya Angelou. | 1:14:59 | 1:15:00 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Maya Angelou. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
Dr Maya Angelou. | 1:15:02 | 1:15:04 | |
The poet Maya Angelou is here. | 1:15:04 | 1:15:06 | |
-Kim, you had a question. -Yeah, I wanted to ask Maya | 1:15:10 | 1:15:12 | |
her views on interracial relationships? | 1:15:12 | 1:15:15 | |
Oh, thank you, and first, I'm Miss Angelou. | 1:15:15 | 1:15:17 | |
-Miss Angelou. -Yes, ma'am. | 1:15:17 | 1:15:19 | |
I'm not Maya. I'm 62 years old. | 1:15:19 | 1:15:21 | |
I have lived so long and tried so hard | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
that a young woman like you, or any other, has no license | 1:15:24 | 1:15:28 | |
to come up to me and call me by my first name. | 1:15:28 | 1:15:31 | |
That's first. That's first. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:34 | |
Also, because at the same time, I am your mother, I'm your auntie, | 1:15:34 | 1:15:38 | |
I'm your teacher, I'm your professor, you see? | 1:15:38 | 1:15:42 | |
I wrote the book Gather Together In My Name | 1:15:42 | 1:15:45 | |
to tell young people | 1:15:45 | 1:15:47 | |
that I would admit where I'd been. | 1:15:47 | 1:15:49 | |
I had written about a very rough time at 18. | 1:15:51 | 1:15:55 | |
I went on to a national show | 1:15:55 | 1:15:58 | |
and the woman who interviewed me, who I knew slightly, | 1:15:58 | 1:16:02 | |
said, "Maya Angelou, how does it feel to know you're | 1:16:02 | 1:16:07 | |
"the first black woman to have a national bestseller non-fiction, | 1:16:07 | 1:16:11 | |
"second book nominated for the Pulitzer, | 1:16:11 | 1:16:15 | |
"and to know that, at 18, you were a prostitute?" | 1:16:15 | 1:16:19 | |
The fellow I liked told me he was desperate | 1:16:19 | 1:16:24 | |
and I was so green. | 1:16:24 | 1:16:27 | |
I'll tell you why I wrote that, though. | 1:16:27 | 1:16:29 | |
Because so many adults told, and tell, young people, | 1:16:29 | 1:16:34 | |
"I've never done anything wrong, | 1:16:34 | 1:16:35 | |
"my closet is free of spectres and ghosts and skeletons." | 1:16:35 | 1:16:41 | |
So I thought... | 1:16:41 | 1:16:42 | |
..they could all gather together in my name. | 1:16:43 | 1:16:46 | |
I would tell the children, "Listen, I've done this, | 1:16:46 | 1:16:49 | |
"this has happened. I have forgiven myself, I have gotten up". | 1:16:49 | 1:16:53 | |
I was afraid that when I told it that there would be sneering at me. | 1:16:53 | 1:16:59 | |
Just the opposite. | 1:16:59 | 1:17:01 | |
Just the opposite happened. | 1:17:02 | 1:17:03 | |
My Aunt Pauline passed this quilt down to me. | 1:17:07 | 1:17:10 | |
It was made by my great-great-grandmother. | 1:17:10 | 1:17:13 | |
The first time I ever sat down with her was during the making of | 1:17:13 | 1:17:16 | |
How To Make An American Quilt. | 1:17:16 | 1:17:18 | |
And I was giving her her proper reverential due | 1:17:18 | 1:17:22 | |
and calling her Dr Angelou, or... | 1:17:22 | 1:17:26 | |
And she would say, "Alfre, stop it, you call me Maya". | 1:17:26 | 1:17:30 | |
And I looked at her and I said, "I'm not calling you Maya!" | 1:17:30 | 1:17:33 | |
I said, "OK, let's compromise, we'll go with Miss Maya". | 1:17:33 | 1:17:37 | |
Let's go right away while we've got the sun and no airplane. | 1:17:37 | 1:17:41 | |
In the late '90s, Dr Angelou was going to make her directing debut. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:47 | |
Cut! | 1:17:47 | 1:17:48 | |
I knew she was a creative genius, so I didn't have any qualms of being | 1:17:48 | 1:17:52 | |
directed by a first-time director, | 1:17:52 | 1:17:55 | |
but poets tend to be more introspective. | 1:17:55 | 1:17:59 | |
Poets create alone. | 1:18:00 | 1:18:03 | |
And a film set is the absolute opposite. | 1:18:04 | 1:18:08 | |
It's loud, it's boisterous, until action. | 1:18:08 | 1:18:12 | |
# Little darling | 1:18:12 | 1:18:13 | |
# Gotta go now. # | 1:18:13 | 1:18:15 | |
Maya Angelou's film Down In The Delta mirrored the | 1:18:15 | 1:18:19 | |
migration of the sharecroppers, | 1:18:19 | 1:18:23 | |
coming up to the north for opportunity, for safety. | 1:18:23 | 1:18:28 | |
And they start to live away from the land, on concrete, | 1:18:28 | 1:18:34 | |
and that starts to change a person, | 1:18:34 | 1:18:39 | |
especially people who have worked the land. | 1:18:39 | 1:18:41 | |
And it starts to make the family dysfunctional | 1:18:41 | 1:18:43 | |
after a couple of generations. | 1:18:43 | 1:18:45 | |
-BUZZER RINGS -Loretta! | 1:18:46 | 1:18:48 | |
-Open up! -What? | 1:18:50 | 1:18:52 | |
'And the mother... | 1:18:52 | 1:18:54 | |
'realises, you know what, the remedy to that...' | 1:18:54 | 1:18:58 | |
Come on home. | 1:18:58 | 1:19:00 | |
'..is getting back to the land, | 1:19:00 | 1:19:02 | |
is going down where people say, | 1:19:02 | 1:19:04 | |
"Good morning, how are you, sir?" "I am fine." | 1:19:04 | 1:19:07 | |
Where there is community. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:08 | |
Dr Angelou believed in the beauty | 1:19:14 | 1:19:16 | |
and the healing power of the South... | 1:19:16 | 1:19:20 | |
..and of family and connection. | 1:19:22 | 1:19:25 | |
150 years of family history right here. | 1:19:25 | 1:19:31 | |
The whole crew would sit and she would talk about | 1:19:31 | 1:19:35 | |
the historical significance of a particular scene and what would be | 1:19:35 | 1:19:40 | |
happening in that space 100 years ago. | 1:19:40 | 1:19:44 | |
It was like we were on an archaeological dig, | 1:19:46 | 1:19:51 | |
on sacred ground. | 1:19:51 | 1:19:53 | |
When I was living in Ghana, the people there looked at me | 1:19:54 | 1:19:58 | |
and thinking, "I look so much like them, that maybe I was a daughter | 1:19:58 | 1:20:04 | |
"of one of the people who had been taken." | 1:20:04 | 1:20:07 | |
So, we all wept. | 1:20:07 | 1:20:10 | |
It was very difficult to be in the place where the slaves were housed | 1:20:11 | 1:20:18 | |
until the ship would come. | 1:20:18 | 1:20:19 | |
Those who could run away ran away. | 1:20:22 | 1:20:25 | |
Women took their babies by their feet and slung them against trees, | 1:20:25 | 1:20:29 | |
so that they wouldn't be sold into slavery. | 1:20:29 | 1:20:33 | |
I could hear the wails | 1:20:34 | 1:20:37 | |
of people in caverns, in chains, | 1:20:37 | 1:20:42 | |
knowing that they would never see their beloveds again. | 1:20:42 | 1:20:46 | |
That they would be put into ships and sailed across seas... | 1:20:46 | 1:20:52 | |
..creating for me and mine the worst times in our lives. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:57 | |
We've undergone experiences too bizarre and yet, | 1:21:00 | 1:21:03 | |
here we are, still here. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
Today, upwards of 50 million. | 1:21:05 | 1:21:09 | |
And I know there are people who swear there are more | 1:21:09 | 1:21:11 | |
than 50 million black people in the Baptist Church... | 1:21:11 | 1:21:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:21:14 | 1:21:15 | |
..and they're not even counting backsliders | 1:21:15 | 1:21:17 | |
and the three black atheists in the world. | 1:21:17 | 1:21:19 | |
Still here, still here! | 1:21:19 | 1:21:22 | |
Amazing! | 1:21:22 | 1:21:23 | |
I think at some point we have to stop and wonder, | 1:21:23 | 1:21:26 | |
"How did we come to a place where young men | 1:21:26 | 1:21:30 | |
"call the other gender 'ho'?" | 1:21:30 | 1:21:32 | |
What happened? | 1:21:32 | 1:21:34 | |
And to use the N-word, as if that's OK to use. | 1:21:34 | 1:21:38 | |
It's not, and you know it's not. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:41 | |
When I was working on my new album, The Dream of the Believer, | 1:21:41 | 1:21:45 | |
and Dr Maya Angelou was a friend of mine, | 1:21:45 | 1:21:48 | |
she wrote a piece for it and we placed it in the song. | 1:21:48 | 1:21:51 | |
Once you find your shoulders dropping, | 1:21:51 | 1:21:54 | |
and your speech gets slow and hazy, | 1:21:54 | 1:21:57 | |
you'd better change your way of being. | 1:21:57 | 1:21:59 | |
Well, I was using, like, the N-word in it, | 1:21:59 | 1:22:03 | |
so a writer brought that up to her and she expressed that, you know, | 1:22:03 | 1:22:09 | |
she wasn't happy with that. | 1:22:09 | 1:22:11 | |
Maya Angelou came out and said she was disappointed in you. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:14 | |
And the use of the N-word. | 1:22:14 | 1:22:16 | |
She was like... I wouldn't use the word disappointed. | 1:22:16 | 1:22:19 | |
She was like... Basically, she was just surprised. | 1:22:19 | 1:22:21 | |
So I got on the phone with her, I gave her my perspective on it, | 1:22:21 | 1:22:25 | |
"Man, you know this is part of our culture, | 1:22:25 | 1:22:27 | |
"and I know the word came from a bad thing, | 1:22:27 | 1:22:29 | |
"but we turned it into something positive." | 1:22:29 | 1:22:31 | |
She wasn't trying to hear all that. | 1:22:31 | 1:22:33 | |
No, no, no, no, no. | 1:22:33 | 1:22:34 | |
It's vulgar. | 1:22:34 | 1:22:36 | |
It's meant... It's created to demean a human being. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:40 | |
I know black people say, "I can use it because I'm black". | 1:22:40 | 1:22:43 | |
No, no. If a thing is poison, and it's got a skull and bones on it, | 1:22:43 | 1:22:49 | |
you can take that content and pour it into Bavarian crystal, | 1:22:49 | 1:22:54 | |
it's still poison. | 1:22:54 | 1:22:55 | |
I have been in the house where somebody on the other side | 1:22:55 | 1:22:58 | |
of the room was in the midst of telling a joke, | 1:22:58 | 1:23:03 | |
and I think this happened to be a joke about a gay person. | 1:23:03 | 1:23:07 | |
And she hears the tone of that joke... | 1:23:07 | 1:23:10 | |
..and she stops the party | 1:23:11 | 1:23:13 | |
and asks them to leave her home. | 1:23:13 | 1:23:17 | |
"Not in my house will those kinds of words be spoken." | 1:23:17 | 1:23:21 | |
So, when I see the children using the words, I stop them | 1:23:21 | 1:23:28 | |
and say, "Excuse me, just a minute, please." | 1:23:28 | 1:23:32 | |
John Singleton did a movie, called Poetic Justice, | 1:23:32 | 1:23:36 | |
and he asked if he could use some of my poetry | 1:23:36 | 1:23:39 | |
for Janet Jackson to speak. | 1:23:39 | 1:23:42 | |
Storm clouds are gathering | 1:23:42 | 1:23:44 | |
The wind is gonna blow | 1:23:44 | 1:23:46 | |
The race of man is suffering... | 1:23:46 | 1:23:49 | |
And I had said, "Yes, of course." | 1:23:49 | 1:23:51 | |
Then he asked, would I come out to California and do a cameo? | 1:23:51 | 1:23:56 | |
Their parents are not taking care of the children. | 1:23:56 | 1:23:59 | |
And there was one young man on the set, who was cursing. | 1:23:59 | 1:24:04 | |
He was using... | 1:24:04 | 1:24:05 | |
Woo-ha! I mean you could see the blue come out of his mouth. | 1:24:05 | 1:24:10 | |
Ooh! I mean combinations of words, I had... | 1:24:10 | 1:24:13 | |
Wow! | 1:24:13 | 1:24:14 | |
So, the next day when I came out, he was still cursing, | 1:24:14 | 1:24:20 | |
and then he got into a big row with another young man, | 1:24:20 | 1:24:23 | |
they were going to fisticuffs. | 1:24:23 | 1:24:26 | |
This was the period in which the LA Riots had just broken out. | 1:24:26 | 1:24:30 | |
And so, there was a lot of tension on the set. | 1:24:30 | 1:24:33 | |
And I said, "Excuse me, may I speak?" | 1:24:33 | 1:24:36 | |
The young man, who was cursing, said, "I wouldn't give a..." | 1:24:36 | 1:24:39 | |
I said, "I understand that, I understand that, | 1:24:39 | 1:24:42 | |
"but may I speak?" | 1:24:42 | 1:24:43 | |
"If these moth..." I said, "Mm-hmm, I've heard that before too. | 1:24:43 | 1:24:46 | |
"But, may I speak to you? | 1:24:46 | 1:24:48 | |
"You see if they think that, they've really got it wrong." | 1:24:48 | 1:24:52 | |
And so, I said, "I see that. But when was the last time | 1:24:52 | 1:24:55 | |
"anyone told you how important you are? | 1:24:55 | 1:25:00 | |
"You're the best we have. | 1:25:00 | 1:25:02 | |
"We need you desperately. | 1:25:02 | 1:25:05 | |
"Do you know that our people stood on auction blocks for you? | 1:25:05 | 1:25:08 | |
"Did you know we got up before sunrise and slept after sunset? | 1:25:08 | 1:25:13 | |
"So that you could stay alive, you could be here this day?" | 1:25:13 | 1:25:17 | |
And I put my arm around his waist and I just walked him down | 1:25:17 | 1:25:21 | |
a little sort of decline | 1:25:21 | 1:25:24 | |
and I talked to him about our people. | 1:25:24 | 1:25:28 | |
And she put her arms around him and she just walked him away | 1:25:28 | 1:25:31 | |
and they had their own private moment. | 1:25:31 | 1:25:32 | |
You know, I don't know everything that was said, | 1:25:32 | 1:25:34 | |
but it was phenomenal. | 1:25:34 | 1:25:35 | |
Suddenly, he started to cry. | 1:25:35 | 1:25:39 | |
And I turned his back to the crowd and just talked to him. | 1:25:39 | 1:25:45 | |
I didn't have a Kleenex or a handkerchief, | 1:25:45 | 1:25:47 | |
I just took my hand and wiped his face. | 1:25:47 | 1:25:52 | |
And when he had control of himself again, I continued to my trailer. | 1:25:52 | 1:25:57 | |
Within two minutes, Ms Janet Jackson came to my trailer. | 1:25:57 | 1:26:02 | |
She said, "Dr Angelou, I don't believe you actually spoke | 1:26:02 | 1:26:05 | |
"to Tupac Shakur!" | 1:26:05 | 1:26:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:26:06 | 1:26:08 | |
So, I said, "Darling, I don't know six-pack. | 1:26:08 | 1:26:12 | |
"I did nothing." | 1:26:12 | 1:26:14 | |
I had no idea who he was. | 1:26:14 | 1:26:17 | |
She said, "Well, he's a very famous rap star." | 1:26:17 | 1:26:20 | |
So, I said, "Oh, well, I'm glad to know that, | 1:26:20 | 1:26:23 | |
"and he's fine and all is well." | 1:26:23 | 1:26:26 | |
For him, it was like... | 1:26:26 | 1:26:28 | |
it was golden, you know, it was a golden moment. | 1:26:28 | 1:26:30 | |
He told his mother, Afeni Shakur, about it. | 1:26:30 | 1:26:32 | |
Afeni wrote Maya a letter | 1:26:32 | 1:26:34 | |
and, "Thank you for looking out for Pac." | 1:26:34 | 1:26:37 | |
This is called I'm Ageing, which I wrote as a song. | 1:26:38 | 1:26:43 | |
When you see me walking, stumbling | 1:26:43 | 1:26:45 | |
Don't study and get it wrong. | 1:26:45 | 1:26:47 | |
Tired don't mean lazy | 1:26:47 | 1:26:49 | |
Every goodbye ain't gone. | 1:26:49 | 1:26:51 | |
I'm the same person I was back then, | 1:26:51 | 1:26:53 | |
A little less heart, a little less chin, | 1:26:53 | 1:26:56 | |
Some less lungs and some less wind. | 1:26:56 | 1:26:58 | |
But ain't I lucky I can still breathe in. | 1:26:58 | 1:27:01 | |
I'm a patient of COPD, | 1:27:01 | 1:27:03 | |
which means chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. | 1:27:03 | 1:27:08 | |
My lungs are so mangled that I don't get enough oxygen. | 1:27:08 | 1:27:13 | |
And so I have to have supplementary oxygen. | 1:27:13 | 1:27:17 | |
As she got older, it was more difficult. | 1:27:17 | 1:27:21 | |
And that's why she really made an effort. | 1:27:22 | 1:27:26 | |
And she was visibly challenged, but dismissive of it. | 1:27:27 | 1:27:33 | |
Everyone else was trying to make sure things were right for her, | 1:27:33 | 1:27:37 | |
she just wanted to live her life. | 1:27:37 | 1:27:39 | |
She knew that if she didn't continue to go, she would stop. | 1:27:41 | 1:27:46 | |
That's what fed her. | 1:27:46 | 1:27:48 | |
She had this incredible love for people. | 1:27:48 | 1:27:52 | |
And she did everything that she could to keep herself alive. | 1:27:54 | 1:28:00 | |
And to keep people being fed by that energy. | 1:28:00 | 1:28:04 | |
It's a blessing! Praise God, praise God. | 1:28:04 | 1:28:08 | |
Don't take this one, that's... | 1:28:08 | 1:28:10 | |
'I think one of the things that brings people together... | 1:28:10 | 1:28:16 | |
'..at any time during their lives...' | 1:28:17 | 1:28:20 | |
'..is a recognition of a similarity... | 1:28:32 | 1:28:36 | |
'..and that is the bond | 1:28:38 | 1:28:41 | |
'that brings you together.' | 1:28:41 | 1:28:42 | |
We talked all the time. | 1:28:49 | 1:28:51 | |
And so, she knew I was doing the play | 1:28:51 | 1:28:54 | |
and she had talked to several people who had seen it. | 1:28:54 | 1:28:58 | |
And I knew she wasn't well | 1:28:58 | 1:29:01 | |
and I didn't want her to feel any pressure about coming to see it | 1:29:01 | 1:29:07 | |
in New York City. | 1:29:07 | 1:29:10 | |
One evening, the show's over, | 1:29:10 | 1:29:14 | |
one of the stage managers says, | 1:29:14 | 1:29:17 | |
"There's a guest of yours here." | 1:29:17 | 1:29:21 | |
I go upstairs... | 1:29:21 | 1:29:22 | |
..and she's at the head of the steps in her wheelchair. | 1:29:24 | 1:29:27 | |
# When God shut Noah in the grand old ark... # | 1:29:31 | 1:29:36 | |
I hope she's happy. | 1:29:38 | 1:29:40 | |
# He put a rainbow in the cloud | 1:29:40 | 1:29:43 | |
# When the thunder rolled and the sky got dark | 1:29:47 | 1:29:53 | |
# God put a rainbow in the cloud | 1:29:55 | 1:29:59 | |
# In the clouds, in the cloud. # | 1:30:01 | 1:30:05 | |
All of us have different fingerprints, | 1:30:07 | 1:30:09 | |
but some of our fingerprints are so indelible on the lives | 1:30:09 | 1:30:13 | |
of other people, when they touch us. | 1:30:13 | 1:30:16 | |
Miss Maya's gone... | 1:30:18 | 1:30:20 | |
..and nobody is going to talk like she talked, | 1:30:21 | 1:30:25 | |
or walked like she walked. | 1:30:25 | 1:30:26 | |
I mean, she left us plenty of things, we can't be greedy, but... | 1:30:28 | 1:30:32 | |
man, the curtain going down on that act... | 1:30:32 | 1:30:36 | |
Thank God I got to live in that time. | 1:30:39 | 1:30:41 | |
# Steal away | 1:30:43 | 1:30:47 | |
# Steal away home | 1:30:47 | 1:30:52 | |
# I ain't got long | 1:30:52 | 1:30:58 | |
# To stay here. # | 1:30:58 | 1:31:03 | |
BELL RINGS | 1:31:05 | 1:31:06 | |
You may write me down in history | 1:31:14 | 1:31:17 | |
With your bitter, twisted lies, | 1:31:17 | 1:31:19 | |
You may trod me in the very dirt | 1:31:19 | 1:31:23 | |
But still, like dust, I'll rise. | 1:31:23 | 1:31:26 | |
Does my sassiness upset you? | 1:31:26 | 1:31:28 | |
Why are you beset with gloom? | 1:31:28 | 1:31:31 | |
Just cos I walk like I've got oil wells | 1:31:31 | 1:31:34 | |
Pumping in my living room. | 1:31:34 | 1:31:36 | |
Just like moons and like suns, | 1:31:37 | 1:31:40 | |
With the certainty of tides. | 1:31:40 | 1:31:43 | |
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, | 1:31:44 | 1:31:48 | |
I am the hope and the dream of the slave | 1:31:48 | 1:31:54 | |
And so I rise | 1:31:54 | 1:31:57 | |
I rise | 1:31:57 | 1:31:59 | |
I rise. | 1:31:59 | 1:32:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:32:01 | 1:32:04 |